November 11, 2025 • 39 mins
A Massachusetts bill has been proposed that would triple the motor vehicle excise tax in MA. This would affect everyone in the state that owns a car. The Municipal Empowerment Act that Governor Healey's Administration supports would give municipalities the ability to raise local revenue through various tax means, which includes an increased automobile excise tax that would triple the current price from 2 1/2% to 7 1/2%. Gubernatorial candidate Brian Shortsleeve is against this measure and if elected claims he would not allow cities and towns the ability to increase the vehicle excise tax. Brian checked in to discuss it with Dan.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WVS Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome back everyone as we head into the nine o'clock
hour here on Night Side, and we're going to talk
to one of the three Republican candidates for governor. I
don't know if that's going to be the entire field
or if they're going to be more entering, but Brian
Shortsleeve is with us. We had Mike and e Leon
a couple of weeks ago, but we like to find
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actually an issue that the candidates feel strongly about, and
we found an issue. I noticed a video that Brian
had done a day or so ago. I believe it
was out somewhere in central Massachusetts, dealing with an issue
that's going to affect everybody who owns a car, or
potentially affect everyone who owns a car in Massachusetts. So,
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first of all, Brian, welcome back to Nightside. How are
you this evening?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Good evening, Dan, It's great to be with you tonight.
Thanks for having me on on Veteran's Day.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yes, absolutely, and you you are a veteran, so I
wish you a happy Veterans Day. Well deserved a little
bit about your military background, since it is Veterans Day.
You did service overseas.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yes, Dad, I served in the Marine Corps as an
officer from nineteen ninety five to nineteen ninety nine. Served
in Bosnia on the Persian Gulf. I think the most
important lessons I learned about life and leadership I learned
in the Marine Corps. And leadership's about taking decisive action
and fixing problems. Such is why I'm running for governor.
But we had a terrific Marine Corps birthday Friday celebration.
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The birthday was Monday two hundred and fiftieth and today
is Veterans Day. So thanks to everyone out there listening
who has served the country. We are all very grateful
and it was a terrific Veterans Day all around Massachusetts today.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Did you get one of those Bill Brett books? On Friday?
Bill had had I think two thousand copies of a
book dealing with marines from Massachusetts. That was the the
big luncheon on Friday. You're talking about ISA, And with a.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Big luncheon, we had the former Secretary of the Navy there.
We had General Mahoney, who's a holy Cross bred.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
There and Aymouth and a Weymouth native.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
To Boots as well as General Dunford, who's also a
quinsy guide. Yah, there's a terrific tradition of Marine Corps
officers and staff and ci os and enlisted here in Massachusetts.
But yes, we had over two thousand marines there. We
all got the book and there's some incredible stories about
the history of brave Massachusetts men and women serving in
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the Marine Corps all over the globe which are well
covered in the book.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah. Bill, it's a great book, and Bill has devoted
himself to that. So let's talk about an issue that
you have identified. I was unaware of this, but I
think everybody in Massachusetts who has a car realizes that
generally early in the winter January February he gets your
auto excise tax bill. And that is based upon a
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formula that based upon the type of car that you
own and the year of the vehicle. So if you
own a really old car and maybe an expensive car,
you don't pay a huge excise tax. But if you
ever have a car year or two just a year
or two old, even after you've paid the sales tax
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on the purchase of the car, you also have the
excise tax every year. Why don't you break it down.
Numbers are hard on radio, but break it down. You know,
let's talk about a car that might be thirty five
forty thousand dollars. We're talking about tripling the auto excise
tax from two and a half percent to seven and
a half percent.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah. I have traveled all over this state over the
past six months, from the Cape to Fall Revenue, Bedford,
to the western part of the state to the north Shore.
I can tell you that working families in Massachusetts are
facing an affordability crisis. And when we talk about something
like the auto excise tax, that's going to hit everyone
in a very serious way. Mori Heally and Kim driscoll our,
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governor and Lieutenant Governor, have promoted a bill. They've been
testifying on behalf of it. It's working its way through
the legislature, and it's called the Municipal Empowerment Act. It
ought to be called the Watch your Wallet Act, is
what I would tell you, Dan, because this bill would
allow your local municipality to triple your autoexcise tax from
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two and a half percent to seven and a half percent.
That is a three hundred percent increase. To give you
an example of what that would mean in Massachusetts today,
new cars average selling prices over forty thousand bucks. So
if you bought a car at forty thousand dollars, you'd
be paying six percent to take it off the lot.
That's twenty five hundred bucks. But then you'd be getting
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about a month or six weeks later from your local
assessor another bill in the mail for what could be
three thousand dollars seven and a half percent. That is
a huge hit to working families. I mean that would
mean that we would be facing almost a fifteen percent
tax to buy a car here, six and a quarter
in sales tax and another up to seven and a
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half at auto excise tax.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And then for every year the car does lose in
its second year, third year a little bit of value,
but instead of you know, if the average excise tax
in Massachusetts, and I'm talking about across the board is
one hundred and fifty dollars a year, let's assume we
take the high end and the older cars, and the
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average is I'm guessing let's say one hundred and fifty,
just to keep it simple. That means the average excise
tax every year will go from one fifty to four
hundred and fifty dollars. That's a huge jump.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It's a huge hit Dan Massachusetts families are already paying
too much. The last thing they need is a higher
auto excise tax. That's a tax on top of a tax.
You buy a car, you pay sales tax, and now
you're have an auto excise tax which increases. And my
concern is that it's going to make this state more
and more expensive for working class families and for small businesses.
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That is an enormous, enormous tax to be paying, and
it'll be out the discretion of local communities. I think
the reason this is happening is because the Heay administration
has not grown unrestricted local aid. Unrestricted local aid, up
through the end of Charlie Baker's term, generally grew at
the rate of tax growth. Unrestricted local aid, which enables
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cities and towns to fund the police department, the fire department,
in some cases, the schools. That's been flat for a
couple of years as the overall state budget's grown dramatically,
and the result is that cities and towns are getting
are getting squeezed.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well. The state budget has doubled, is it within the
last seven years eight years.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
With this the state has grown by fifty Yes, the
sixty two billion dollar budget today has fifty percent growth
over the over the last six years. But when you
look at unrestricted local aid, which cities and towns rely on,
that's not growing. And the result is that the Healy
administration is pushing more and more of that tax burden
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down onto cities and towns, and it's going to end
up getting you very hard in the wallet. If you,
like me, drive a car every day.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, the other question I have, and again I think
that there is a war, if you will, an economic
war on people who drive automobiles. I think that there
is an animus within the Democratic Party in favor of
people who bicycle, and which is wonderful. Witness the number
of bike lanes that have popped up everywhere, and that
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makes it more difficult for people to drive cars to
get in and out of work. And I had a
guy on a week or so ago who was from
Winthrop and he actually is a real advocate of more
people getting out of cars and into bicycles, to the
point that he said to me on the air. I
asked him the question, would you advocate bike lanes in
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the Sumner Tunnel, the Callahan Tunnel, the O'Neil tunnel, and
he said unequivocally yes. And I asked them about bike
lanes on bridges. Can you imagine bike lanes in tunnels?
And I'm serious. He didn't back off from it. And
I do think that this is part of what I
would call a Warren on on on cars, a Warren automobiles.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, I would also tell you, Dan, it's a war
on the large part of the state that is not
Boston and Cambridge. If you live in the city of Boston,
or you live in the city of Cambridge, perhaps you
can bike to work, Perhaps you can bike to school.
If you live in Worcester County, or you live in
a Fall River, New Bedford or down in Cape Cod.
You need a car. If you're a if you're a tradesman,
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if you're a if you run a small business, if
you're installing HVAC or plumbing, you need your vehicle. There
are big parts of this state where working families and
small businesses rely on those vehicles because they do not
live in urban areas where you could take a bike.
And I think this tax is a real slap in
the face to working class families and small businesses who
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really need that car. It's, by the way, it's also
very regressive. Whether you earn forty thousand dollars a year
or one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, you
pay the same an auto excize tax. And that's why
it is so painful for working class people in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The other thing is you and I both know you
know well healed attorneys and in some cases you know
surgeons who live in downtown Boston. They don't need a car.
They can either walk to work, or they can uber
to work, or they can bicycle to work. So this
doesn't impact them. But you're absolutely right when you talk
about being aggressive the people who who use that car
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in business, or the people who have to get from
point A to point B and it's twenty five miles
each way every day. Hey, there's no.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Idea you live in County, or you live in trick Apee,
or you live in Fall River, New Bedford, you're not
biking to work.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well, this was a great issue. We make a bunch
of we have a bunch of callers who are on
the line. I want to get to all of them. Uh,
we have full lines everybody, which I always appreciate. Uh,
we're going to get to all of you. I promise,
We're going to go right to phone calls. If you
want to talk about this, great. If you want to
ask Brian Shortsleeve any questions about his campaign, that's fine too.
Six one, seven, two, four ten thirty six one seven,
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nine three one thirty. Those are the numbers. Write them
down because you'll need them other nights, but tonight, don't
dial right now. We got full lines. Brian will be
right back on night Side. I love your energy here.
Let's get to the phone calls right after this quick
break here on night Side.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Right we had Mike Kennely on a few weeks ago,
actually I think it was October seventeenth, and we were
talking about energy prices in New England. But more importantly,
we got into the snap issue as that situation was developing,
and I think you agreed with him, and I had
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mentioned why did Governor Heally not go to the eight
point eight billion dollar Reeny Day Fund, the so called
stabilization fund that we have to basically say to people
here in Massachusetts who rely on snap benefits. Don't worry.
We have plenty of money to bridge whatever period of
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time your benefits will be in doubt. It seemed to
me absolutely cruel that those people were left in limbo,
and I don't know how many of them have gotten
their benefits even now, and the governor's office is sitting
on eight point eight billion dollars in the Rainy Day Fund.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Governor Heely is playing politics when it comes to She's
got all the money in the world to solve that problem,
and as governor, she ought to be solving that problem
for working families in this state and for folks that
need that benefits. If I was governor, we wouldn't be
in this position, by the way, because there's a ton
of waste and bloat in state government. I mean, heally
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in only three years, Dan has increased the state budget
by ten billion dollars. I mean we're spent. We're still
spending over three million dollars a day on migrant hotels.
We've got one hundred million dollar home base program where
Heely's moving migrant families into hotels. When it comes to
those priorities of hers, there's always money available, but when
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it comes to snap benefits, or when it comes to
paying public defenders to keep the courts open, she never
can seem to come up with the money. So I
think it's a failure of leadership. Leadership means taking decisive
action to solve problems, and I don't see heally giving
us that type of leadership.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Let me tell you, Uh, when when I look back
at the money that was spent, Uh, the the six
million dollars, no big contract for the cab company down
on the cape. Uh, you know, for for folks who
were here illegally, just stunning, stunning, and yet there wasn't
a penny of Massachusetts money we're still waiting for. You know. Well,
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I guess the Fed's released the money and and thankfully
people have have gotten some money to but you know,
it's just as is they were. I don't like to
see people treated that way. Let's go to phone calls.
Let me let's go. We got packed phone calls. I
want to get everybody in here. Let me start it
off with Ian and Holliston. Ian, you were first tonight
with Brian short Sleeve. He's a Republican candidate for governor
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next year.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Go ahead, Ian, Hey, Dan, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
All right, we can hear you perfectly. I love Holliston,
the Super Red Yeah, it's a great a great town.
Fisks General Store. Tell you you live in a beautiful town.
Go right ahead. You're on Brian shortsleeve.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
All right, Thank you, so, Brian, one thing you mentioned
frequently is your commitment to Donald Trump and the Republican ticket.
But at the same time you've also donated one hundred
thousand dollars to Democrats such as Seth Molten and Andrea Campbell.
So my question is, how can you say that you
have a commitment to Republicans such as Donald Trump and
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Jay McMahon. Well, at the same time you donate to
their opponents, Seth Molten and Andrea Campbell. Thanks agam for
having me on.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, well you're going to take the good questions with
the bad questions. Go right ahead, Brian.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Look, I'm a businessman and I operate in a blue state.
It's the cost of doing business in Massachusetts.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
You know, there's another.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Guy out there that gave a lot of money to
Democrats before he was in politics, and his name is
Donald Trump. He contributed to John Kerry. He contributed to
Hillary Clinton. He contributed to Chuck Schumer before he was
in politics. For me, it's the cost of doing business.
I'll also say that Seth Molten is someone I've known
for a long time from my days at Harvard, in
my days in the Marine Corps. And there's a lot
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of veterans on both sides of the isle, including Seth,
who I have supported over the years, a lot of
buddies from the Marine Corps who I've supported independent of
their political party. But I've given more money than anyone
in this race who Republican candidates. I have been involved
with our Republican Party for more than twenty years as
a member of the state Committee, as a member of
my Republican town committee, and I've been supporting local candidates
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for a long long time. So I'm completely committed to
our party, to growing our party, and I'm confident that
I'm going to win the primary and win the general.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
All right, appreciate you call, an, Thank you very much.
Let me go next to Brenda in Dudley, Massachusetts. Brenda,
you went next on Nightside with Brian Schwartzleeve.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Going ahead, Brenda, Hi, there, how are you doing tonight? Good?
So Brian, I have a question for you. This is
in regards to back when you were managing the MBTA
and the contract was awarded to the CRRC, the Chinese company,
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And at this point I don't believe the work is
done yet for the Red and the Orange lines. And
there's also an issue now with some alleged child labor
issues in China.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Let me slow you down for a second here, Brenda,
if you can, before we throw everything but the kitchen
sink in here. Brian, you were the interim general manager
of the team. I'm assuming that the contracts with the
Chinese company were negotiated long before your arrival, and probably
by an administration that might have predated your arrival.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Those contracts were signed by Deval Patrick back in twenty fourteen,
before Baker became governor, and they were actually the RFP
on those I believe started back in twenty twelve. But
I can tell you this about the Tea when I
got to the Tea, when I took it over, it
was literally buried in snow and drowning in debt. Over
two years there, I balanced the budget with the Fiscal
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Management Control Board. We cut waste, we brought accountability of
the system. We delivered the lowest operating expenses in the
history of the TEA. And when I was done with
that over two years, the Boston Herald said that I
had turned a bloated, underperforming agency into one focused on people,
performance and results. So we got a tremendous amount done
during that period. The new Orange line cars are now
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on the rails and anyone out there, hopefully listening, has
ridden them. They're beautiful and they run really well. The
red cars will be coming on. But the contract you
mentioned is a contract that predates my time at the
MBTA and predates Governor Baker's time as governor.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So the criticism was the contract, Brenda. I'm sure you
realize you should be talking to I mean, it's not
a fair question, and that's why I jumped in. But
what else did you want to ask?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Well, the second part is that if you did become governor,
would you exercise more American type contracts rather than going
out of the country.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
But again, just to emphasize, he did not go out
of the country. When a contract is done by Massachusetts,
you cannot turn around and breach that contract when we
have a new governor. So the question of what he
would do in terms of contracting with American companies. That's
a legitimate question. I just want to make sure people
understand the context.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Go ahead, Brian, Oh you bet, you bet, we'd focus
on American companies, and we do with the MPGA. If
you look at the buses that are being purchased, there's
a lot of great vendors in this country, and I
hope there are great vendors for trains in this country
in the future as well. But what I can tell
you is that the Orange Line cars which are on
the rails now are performing really well, and I'm confident
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the Red Line cars when they do get on will
be will be great as it will be great for
riders too.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Brenda, just final comment for me if you wouldn't mind,
If you've been a long time listening to wbc UH
into Nightside, we went after the Patrick administration on that
boondoggle of the of the Chinese contracts. Many of those
cars have been sitting out in Springfield long before the
Baker administration took over, and and so we we spent
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a lot of time on that subject. And I don't
mean to jump on you, but that's if you weren't
listening to our broadcast back then. You you should have been,
because you would have been you would have been very
pleased with how we dealt with that issue. It was
a mistake that the Patrick administration made, and a costly
mistake at that. Thanks for the call, Brand, appreciate your call.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Thank you, You welcome.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Have a great night only line. That's opening six one seven.
Got to take a quick news break back. They're throwing
fastballs at you, Brian, but I think you're doing fine.
Let's keep rolling with callers here on Nightside back right
after the news break.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Prose, keep Rowland here, We're going to go to Sebastian
in Saga. Sebastian, you were on with Brian short Sleeve,
Republican candidate for governor, and we are talking about the
Massachusetts excise tax, which is in jeopardy of being tripled
by a piece of legislation that Brian Shortsleeve says is
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supported by the the Heay administration.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Well, thank you for having me on. I'm glad to
be on. And honestly, this is so scary that the
Healy Driscoll administration, you know, wants to to continue to
tax us out of oblivion. No one do they call
us Taxachusetts.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, we're going to get that reputation, that well earned
reputation which the Baker administration kind of backed us away from.
It's coming back.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, no, and that's scary. And Brian, you know, thank
you for running. I do have a question about this
proposed excise tax. How how can you defeat Healey to
stop the proposed excise tax increase. Well, look, we're going.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
To focus on making this state affordable again for working
families and for small businesses. I mean, Mora Healy has
never met a tax she didn't like. She's proposed five
new taxes this year. The most recent is the auto
excise tax. And under her leadership, taxes continue to go up,
regulations pile up, and our private sector is slowing down.
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I mean we're now fifty is out of fifty in
the nation. Imagine that we are dead last in private
sector job growth. So look, I am running to get
this state moving again. I want us to be number
one in private sector job growth. I want us to
be number one in entrepreneurship. But that starts with cutting taxes,
it starts with cutting utility bills. It starts with getting
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government spending under control, and when it comes to healing.
At every step of the way, she's always leaning in
to new and interesting ways to raise your taxes, and
that is driving an affordability crisis and it's frankly driving
families and businesses out of the state. When I'm governor,
we will turn that around on day one.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You know what I think Sebastian is asking, and I
think it's a really good question. You asked, Sebastian. I
don't know how old you are, how experienced you are,
but it's a really good question, Brian. In my opinion,
this is an issue that plays across the state and
I think you should take it on. And if you
beat it and can save taxpayers the tripling of excise tax,
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what a victory. And even if the effort is in vain,
it will highlight in a way that only a gubernatorial
candidate can highlight. I'm going to talk about it here
on Nightside, I promise you, and keep me posted on this.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
People feel it every time they get that bill. You
know what else they feel every time they get a
bill is that they're electricity bills. If you look at
the cost of utility bills in the state. When I
travel to places like Totton and Westfield and New Bedford,
people bring their bills to meetings with me and they
show them to me. In some cases, you know, they've
got a two hundred and fifty dollars bill and only
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a third of it's related to the cost of power.
Another third of it are state mandated fees. Those are
fees that Mora Heally has continued to jackop. She continues
to run lots and lots of money through utility bill
And that's the type of thing people they feel it,
they see it, and it's making it harder and harder
to live here if you're on a fixed income.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Well, you know what some people say is they only
tax two things in Massachusetts, Brian, everything that moves and
everything that doesn't move. Uh, And I think it's that
we're getting close to that, actually.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Sebastian, Well, go ahead, Sebastian.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Sebastian, you have got a follow up question. If not,
I'm going to let you go. It was a great call, though.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Thank you, Oh no, no, just thank you to Brian
for running in No talk about just taxes that that
Heally and Drisco are going to continue to hit us
with that's I mean, I'm going to fixed income myself,
so this this proposed increase will will hurt me and
my family.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Well, I hear it. I hear it when I'm out
there every day. Property taxes another huge issue for working families.
I mean, there's one hundred and sixty communities in this
state in the last two and a half years, which
I've had Proposition two and a half overrides. And the
reason why local communities need an extra two or three
or four million dollars to fund the police department or
the fire department is because the state is not providing
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what it used to an unrestricted local aid. You know, historically,
unrestricted local aid grew with tax receipts. Over the last
five years, we've had an explosion in tax receipts in
this state. State government has never had more money than
it does now, but it's not getting back to cities
and towns, and that's why your property taxes are going up.
That's why your auto excise tax is going up. So look,
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I think we've got to focus on those local issues
because those are the things making this a hard state
for small businesses and working families to make ends meet.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But let's stop the trip pling of the auto excise
tax because that will be a backbreaker. You talk about
a two and a half percent override, this, this is
going to be a two hundred percent increase in your
in your auto auto excise tax.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Well, I got a young couple buying their first car. Good,
you know, and if they've got two young kids in
baby seats, they might not be able to ride the
boss or the MBTA, you know, the new car thirty
forty thousand bucks, you're going to be spending thousands and
thousands of dollars between sales tax and auto excise tax.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I think this is a winner and not fair. And
if you get any information, Brian, as to who the
state reps are that are pushing this, if it's if
the Heli administer, if it's just the Healy administration, we'll
do this, uh and and and we'll wage We'll wage
the fight here on night side, as we wage the
fight on behalf of the state Auditor Diana Dezaglio, who
I think is probably the brightest luminary in the Democratic
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Party in Massachusetts right now. She wants to audit the
legislature and she's being shut down by the governor's office.
She's being shut down by the Speaker, by the Senate
President and the Attorney general. And she's a Democrat, Sebastian job.
You know, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You know. One thing she did auditre She did audit
the the I was going to say, she did audit
that the Mercedes cab company you mentioned earlier. Oh, yes,
of the Mercedes Cab company, six million dollars were spent.
She did an audit and she found that in many cases,
the state was paying one hundred and fifty dollars to
move migrants two hundred feet from one side of a
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parking lot to the other. She found three hundred thousand
dollars of fees that were paid for late fees and cancelations.
The contract didn't allow that. When she asked the state
why they had paid all these fees, she found that
no one in state government had ever reviewed a single invoice.
That was the answer.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And by the way, in her mind got what happened
was if the company might believe was in Truro, and
so if they went to the next town over to
pick up one of the folks who we're here illegally,
and we're gonna take them to a shopping trip or
to a doctor's office, let's say three miles away, which
they couldn't walk. To the moment that they got to
the pickup point, the meter rang one hundred and forty
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dollars just to be picked up, and if they were
literally driven a quarter of a mile, it was one
hundred and forty dollars plus whatever that was five bucks. Uh.
That was what was stunning. Can you imagine ordering an
uber or a cab and you go out and you
get in the uber of the cab and the moment
you walk in, the meter starts not at zero, but
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at one hundred and forty dollars. Who negotiated with that contract?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And what the auditor found was, if you if you
wanted to move people around this great state, the most
expensive way to do it. The most expensive is black car.
That's one hundred and fifty bucks a trip. Taxis are forty.
Uber and Lyft would be twenty, and the regional transit
authorities probably would have done it for free. So in
this particular case, you know, the Healy team picked the
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most expensive way to operate, and the auditor found that
taxpayer's probably got a million and a half dollars of
value out of a six point eight million dollars spent
complete financial mismanagement inside deal just as.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
They as they say, Brian, a few million here and
a few million there eventually runs into real money. Let
me get Roger in Midfield, in here before the break.
Roger gonna get you in so you have the way
through the break your own. Brian short Sleeve, Republican candidate
for governor.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Go ahead, Roger, Hey, Dan, love the show. Happy Veterans Day,
and thanks for your service for all the veterans out there.
My question is, mister short Sleeve. You mentioned you are
a Baker guy, and I want to know can our
party ever get back to what it was under good
Republicans like Baker and Romney.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Look, I think we're gonna win in twenty twenty six.
And the reason we're gonna win is because people out
there are fed up with the direction of the state.
It's not just Republicans, by the way. When I'm out
there talking to people, I'm talking to independents who feel abandoned.
I'm talking to Democrats, you know, who are fed up.
I think there's a tremendous, tremendous hunger out there for
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change in Massachusetts right now that cuts across party lines.
And I think this is going to be the sort
of election when people wake up next summer and whether
it's you know, elderly people on fixed incomes who can't
pay their property taxes which are going up, or young
families who can't buy a home, I think you're going
to be looking for a governor that wants to bring change,
wants to bring back fiscal conservatism, wants to focus on
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cutting taxes, cutting utility bills, getting spending under control.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
And I will do that, all right.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
I'm a Romney guy, so it sounds like we're pretty similar.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Thanks Dan, thank you, Thanks Thanks Roger, give the call,
give the show calling, and I thank you very much.
We take a very quick break back with Brian George Leave,
candidate for governor, Republican running for governor here in Massachusetts.
You'll get to know all the candidates listening tonight's side.
The phone lines are going crazy. We're going to try
to get everybody in as quickly as possible, so please
have some patience. But when you get on, ask you
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a question and we'll move to as many people as weekend.
Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You're on night Side with Dan ray On. Done you
Bzy Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Back to the phone calls for Republican candidate for Governor,
Brian short Sleeve with us Is Oscar from Quincy Oscar.
Next on Nightsig go right.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Ahead, Hi, Brian, how you doing? Happy Veterans Day? Most
of all, thank you, And as somebody who's still trying
to decide who to pick in the Republican primary here,
I just have a question about your SUPERBA or super
pac spending money on that ad with Mara Heely. Do
you think that was the best way is to spend
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resources kind of portraying more Ahey with a sombrero and
a poncho. Because the headline doesn't read Mara Heey mismanaging
the Commonwealth, it just really reads racist. At the Brian
Shortlye's pack.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know, I'm focused on my race. There are several
independent outside groups that have already announced their operating here
through the short Sleeve Committee, we've raised over a million dollars.
We had a big win in the first straw pole
down in Pembroke about six weeks ago. The most recent
poll from UMass show that I am clearly the strongest
candidate in the general election against Mora Heally. So that's
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what I'm focused on. I think Massachusetts has always worked
better with a businessman in the corner office. I've spent
my life growing businesses, in entrepreneurship. I know how to
get again.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, Brian, was this your campaign's ad, because I want
to make that very clear if it was not.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You know, the Short Sleeves Committee, which is my campaign,
hasn't run any ads. I think the caller is talking
about an outside an independent, outside group which we don't
we don't have any control over, and we don't coordinate with.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
AD does support you? Like that AD doesn't have money
back in you, and it does support you, So it
is like, do you support that kind of ad?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I mean, I'm focused on my race. Look the issues
I'm talking about. It's affordability, it's taxes, it's cutting utility bills.
That's what I'm focused on. I know how we can
move this date forward. And I'm a businessman. I know
why this is are leaving Massachusetts. I know why we're
fiftyeth out of fifty in private sector job growth. It's
because more Heally's policies have been a complete failure. She's
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raised your taxes, she's raised your electricity bills. She spent
billions of dollars on migrant housing programs which could have
been redeployed and unrestricted local aid. And if she has
spent that money sending it back to cities and talents,
as I would, you wouldn't be facing Prop two and
a half overrides, and you certainly wouldn't be looking at
a tripling of the auto excise tax. All right, focused on.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
All right, Oskar, thank you for your question. I think
he's answered your question. It was not his ad. Let
me go to Chris in Lincoln, Massachusetts. Chris next on
nice side with Brian Chotzlee. Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Brian, good evening.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
You're a veteran.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
I'm a veteran.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
I served all around the world, including Afghanistan.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
You did a couple of pumps overseas.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
I think mar Heeley played some European basketball.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
When your governor, what will you do.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
For US veterans? Well, fresh, thank you for your service.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Number one.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
When I'm governor, day one, first morning, homeless veterans will
have priority in the migrant in the Shelter program, in
the home Base program, all of those housing programs that
we have, our homeless veterans will have priority number one
veterans will also have priority for housing through the housing authorities.
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So I think there's a tremendous amount we need to
do right now to prioritize homeless veterans. I was out
in Leminster last week and I met with a Veterans
Service officer who told me there were one hundred homeless
veterans who were kicked out of the hotels they were
staying in by the Healey administration when the Healey administration
turned all those hotels into migrant hotels. This is out
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in Leminster. Gardener me think about that. You know, we've
we've got homeless veterans that are at the bottom of
the list, and we've got migrants that are at the
top of the list. That those are more Heey's priorities.
When I'm governor, the right to Shelter law would be
focused on Massachusetts residents who are US citizens, and veterans
would be at the top of the list.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Great question, great answer. Appreciate the call, Chris. Good one,
thank you. Okay, let me get one more in here,
Gina from Boston. Gina, you next one. Nice that with
Brian Schwatsleeve. Go right ahead, Gina, Hi, thank you.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
A recent unasked poll showed you in last place in
the primary.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Since then, your.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
Campaign have questioned the credibility of the polls while promoting
other results of s mark favorable. So which is it
as a uns legacy seemly? I say, priding the integrity
of that institution and I believe Kenna is for governor
should be consistent, honest with their voters.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Is the primary Gina? Gina, quick question? When is the primary?
It's next September, right, correck? Okay, and this is November,
so that's ten months away. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Brian said that Pole clearly showed me as the strongest
candidate to beat Mara Healy in the in the fall,
which is about one year from now. I am a
proven government reformer, I'm a proud Marine, I'm a fighter.
I'm someone will challenge the status quo. And I know
when I'm out there meeting with our primary voters they
want someone who can beat more Heally. I am the
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candidate that'll beat more Heally. I think that's why we're
getting such a great response. We're leading the field in fundraising,
we're leading the field in terms of the early stropholes,
we're leading the field in terms of the response we're
getting at our events. And I think it's because our
you know, our primary voters want someone who can win,
and they also want an outsider and a businessman to
can shake things up.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
All right, Gina, thank you for the question. Let me
try to get one more in Harrison Is in New Bedford. Harrison.
You're next on Nightside, Go right ahead, Hey, Dan.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Brian.
Speaker 10 (35:36):
First, I just wanted to thank you for coming down
to the city. It was greatly appreciated. I just want
to ask real quick. With the rising prices over the
last almost three years, I wanted to know what else
you were going to do to make Massachusetts more affordable.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Well, look, number one, let's stop raising taxes. Okay, that's
a good start. Families are getting, We're we're getting, you know.
I mean, what I would tell you is, look, when
you're in a hole, stop digging. When I am governor,
we will be cutting taxes. We will not be raising taxes.
I mean, Moriheely has proposed five new taxes this year alone,
the candy tax, the tax on prescription drugs, a tax
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on charities by ending the charitable deduction, and now a
tripling in the auto excise tax. So if you ask
me what are examples of things that are making life
too expensive in this state, it's those type taxes, and
it's also electricity bills. Moriheely killed two natural gas pipelines
when she was the Attorney General, which if they were
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in place today, would be saving working families in this
state thousands of dollars. When I am governor, we will
go to New York. We will grab Governor Hocel from
New York. We will go to the White House, We'll
grab the Williams Company and will tell them we are
ready to go build the Constitution pipeline. Get that pipeline
in place. That the one hundred and twenty five miles
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from here is the cheapest natural gas in the country,
and there's no reason that we shouldn't be tapping into it.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And look at b might be Governor Stephanick.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
It might be Governor Stephanick. That would be even better.
But guess what you know, if you've got a Massachusetts
governor that wants to do it, the CEO of the
Williams Company has said they're ready to go and we
just need New York. But Governor Healy has been a
steadfast opponent of those things and those the result of
those policies is just making life here more and more expensive.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
All right, Harrison, great question, Thank you much. We're flat
out of time, Brian. How can folks get in touch
with you if they'd like to support your campaign? What's
the website?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Well, please join us on Facebook at Brian Shortsleeve for Massachusetts.
Our website is brianshortsleeve dot com. We've got a terrific
group of volunteers that are getting organized. We're traveling all
of the state, so sign up on Facebook, come to
the events, become a delegate. We'd love your help.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Brian. Thanks very much. You handled a variety of questions
and you handled them well. And look forward to having
you back. And let's this excise tax thing really bothers
me and so I'm I want to do a lot
more on it. Keep us posted and anything we can do,
let me know. We we got to get the legislation
to kill this thing before before it is it's a
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it's a Frankenstein, it's an absolute Frankensteign this So.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Watch your wallet, Dan, That is my advice to you
and your listeners.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'm always watching my wallet because I am in a
state where they do only tax everything that moves and
everything that doesn't move, which means simply everything.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Thanks Brian, Happy veterans, date all the veterans out there. Dad,
I always love being on the show. Thanks for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You bet you right back at you when we get back.
We're going to talk about the arrest the indictment of
two Cleveland Indian pitchers. And this is a an incredible
baseball scandal. We've had basketball, now we had baseball. It
all comes down to prop bets. We're going to talk
about that on the other side of the break. If
you still didn't want to stick with us, feel free
coming back on nights side right after the ten o'clock
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news
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WVS Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome back everyone as we head into the nine o'clock
hour here on Night Side, and we're going to talk
to one of the three Republican candidates for governor. I
don't know if that's going to be the entire field
or if they're going to be more entering, but Brian
Shortsleeve is with us. We had Mike and e Leon
a couple of weeks ago, but we like to find
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actually an issue that the candidates feel strongly about, and
we found an issue. I noticed a video that Brian
had done a day or so ago. I believe it
was out somewhere in central Massachusetts, dealing with an issue
that's going to affect everybody who owns a car, or
potentially affect everyone who owns a car in Massachusetts. So,
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first of all, Brian, welcome back to Nightside. How are
you this evening?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Good evening, Dan, It's great to be with you tonight.
Thanks for having me on on Veteran's Day.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yes, absolutely, and you you are a veteran, so I
wish you a happy Veterans Day. Well deserved a little
bit about your military background, since it is Veterans Day.
You did service overseas.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yes, Dad, I served in the Marine Corps as an
officer from nineteen ninety five to nineteen ninety nine. Served
in Bosnia on the Persian Gulf. I think the most
important lessons I learned about life and leadership I learned
in the Marine Corps. And leadership's about taking decisive action
and fixing problems. Such is why I'm running for governor.
But we had a terrific Marine Corps birthday Friday celebration.
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The birthday was Monday two hundred and fiftieth and today
is Veterans Day. So thanks to everyone out there listening
who has served the country. We are all very grateful
and it was a terrific Veterans Day all around Massachusetts today.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Did you get one of those Bill Brett books? On Friday?
Bill had had I think two thousand copies of a
book dealing with marines from Massachusetts. That was the the
big luncheon on Friday. You're talking about ISA, And with a.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Big luncheon, we had the former Secretary of the Navy there.
We had General Mahoney, who's a holy Cross bred.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
There and Aymouth and a Weymouth native.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
To Boots as well as General Dunford, who's also a
quinsy guide. Yah, there's a terrific tradition of Marine Corps
officers and staff and ci os and enlisted here in Massachusetts.
But yes, we had over two thousand marines there. We
all got the book and there's some incredible stories about
the history of brave Massachusetts men and women serving in
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the Marine Corps all over the globe which are well
covered in the book.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah. Bill, it's a great book, and Bill has devoted
himself to that. So let's talk about an issue that
you have identified. I was unaware of this, but I
think everybody in Massachusetts who has a car realizes that
generally early in the winter January February he gets your
auto excise tax bill. And that is based upon a
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formula that based upon the type of car that you
own and the year of the vehicle. So if you
own a really old car and maybe an expensive car,
you don't pay a huge excise tax. But if you
ever have a car year or two just a year
or two old, even after you've paid the sales tax
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on the purchase of the car, you also have the
excise tax every year. Why don't you break it down.
Numbers are hard on radio, but break it down. You know,
let's talk about a car that might be thirty five
forty thousand dollars. We're talking about tripling the auto excise
tax from two and a half percent to seven and
a half percent.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah. I have traveled all over this state over the
past six months, from the Cape to Fall Revenue, Bedford,
to the western part of the state to the north Shore.
I can tell you that working families in Massachusetts are
facing an affordability crisis. And when we talk about something
like the auto excise tax, that's going to hit everyone
in a very serious way. Mori Heally and Kim driscoll our,
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governor and Lieutenant Governor, have promoted a bill. They've been
testifying on behalf of it. It's working its way through
the legislature, and it's called the Municipal Empowerment Act. It
ought to be called the Watch your Wallet Act, is
what I would tell you, Dan, because this bill would
allow your local municipality to triple your autoexcise tax from
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two and a half percent to seven and a half percent.
That is a three hundred percent increase. To give you
an example of what that would mean in Massachusetts today,
new cars average selling prices over forty thousand bucks. So
if you bought a car at forty thousand dollars, you'd
be paying six percent to take it off the lot.
That's twenty five hundred bucks. But then you'd be getting
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about a month or six weeks later from your local
assessor another bill in the mail for what could be
three thousand dollars seven and a half percent. That is
a huge hit to working families. I mean that would
mean that we would be facing almost a fifteen percent
tax to buy a car here, six and a quarter
in sales tax and another up to seven and a
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half at auto excise tax.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And then for every year the car does lose in
its second year, third year a little bit of value,
but instead of you know, if the average excise tax
in Massachusetts, and I'm talking about across the board is
one hundred and fifty dollars a year, let's assume we
take the high end and the older cars, and the
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average is I'm guessing let's say one hundred and fifty,
just to keep it simple. That means the average excise
tax every year will go from one fifty to four
hundred and fifty dollars. That's a huge jump.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It's a huge hit Dan Massachusetts families are already paying
too much. The last thing they need is a higher
auto excise tax. That's a tax on top of a tax.
You buy a car, you pay sales tax, and now
you're have an auto excise tax which increases. And my
concern is that it's going to make this state more
and more expensive for working class families and for small businesses.
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That is an enormous, enormous tax to be paying, and
it'll be out the discretion of local communities. I think
the reason this is happening is because the Heay administration
has not grown unrestricted local aid. Unrestricted local aid, up
through the end of Charlie Baker's term, generally grew at
the rate of tax growth. Unrestricted local aid, which enables
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cities and towns to fund the police department, the fire department,
in some cases, the schools. That's been flat for a
couple of years as the overall state budget's grown dramatically,
and the result is that cities and towns are getting
are getting squeezed.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well. The state budget has doubled, is it within the
last seven years eight years.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
With this the state has grown by fifty Yes, the
sixty two billion dollar budget today has fifty percent growth
over the over the last six years. But when you
look at unrestricted local aid, which cities and towns rely on,
that's not growing. And the result is that the Healy
administration is pushing more and more of that tax burden
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down onto cities and towns, and it's going to end
up getting you very hard in the wallet. If you,
like me, drive a car every day.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, the other question I have, and again I think
that there is a war, if you will, an economic
war on people who drive automobiles. I think that there
is an animus within the Democratic Party in favor of
people who bicycle, and which is wonderful. Witness the number
of bike lanes that have popped up everywhere, and that
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makes it more difficult for people to drive cars to
get in and out of work. And I had a
guy on a week or so ago who was from
Winthrop and he actually is a real advocate of more
people getting out of cars and into bicycles, to the
point that he said to me on the air. I
asked him the question, would you advocate bike lanes in
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the Sumner Tunnel, the Callahan Tunnel, the O'Neil tunnel, and
he said unequivocally yes. And I asked them about bike
lanes on bridges. Can you imagine bike lanes in tunnels?
And I'm serious. He didn't back off from it. And
I do think that this is part of what I
would call a Warren on on on cars, a Warren automobiles.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, I would also tell you, Dan, it's a war
on the large part of the state that is not
Boston and Cambridge. If you live in the city of Boston,
or you live in the city of Cambridge, perhaps you
can bike to work, Perhaps you can bike to school.
If you live in Worcester County, or you live in
a Fall River, New Bedford or down in Cape Cod.
You need a car. If you're a if you're a tradesman,
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if you're a if you run a small business, if
you're installing HVAC or plumbing, you need your vehicle. There
are big parts of this state where working families and
small businesses rely on those vehicles because they do not
live in urban areas where you could take a bike.
And I think this tax is a real slap in
the face to working class families and small businesses who
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really need that car. It's, by the way, it's also
very regressive. Whether you earn forty thousand dollars a year
or one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, you
pay the same an auto excize tax. And that's why
it is so painful for working class people in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The other thing is you and I both know you
know well healed attorneys and in some cases you know
surgeons who live in downtown Boston. They don't need a car.
They can either walk to work, or they can uber
to work, or they can bicycle to work. So this
doesn't impact them. But you're absolutely right when you talk
about being aggressive the people who who use that car
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in business, or the people who have to get from
point A to point B and it's twenty five miles
each way every day. Hey, there's no.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Idea you live in County, or you live in trick Apee,
or you live in Fall River, New Bedford, you're not
biking to work.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well, this was a great issue. We make a bunch
of we have a bunch of callers who are on
the line. I want to get to all of them. Uh,
we have full lines everybody, which I always appreciate. Uh,
we're going to get to all of you. I promise,
We're going to go right to phone calls. If you
want to talk about this, great. If you want to
ask Brian Shortsleeve any questions about his campaign, that's fine too.
Six one, seven, two, four ten thirty six one seven,
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nine three one thirty. Those are the numbers. Write them
down because you'll need them other nights, but tonight, don't
dial right now. We got full lines. Brian will be
right back on night Side. I love your energy here.
Let's get to the phone calls right after this quick
break here on night Side.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Right we had Mike Kennely on a few weeks ago,
actually I think it was October seventeenth, and we were
talking about energy prices in New England. But more importantly,
we got into the snap issue as that situation was developing,
and I think you agreed with him, and I had
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mentioned why did Governor Heally not go to the eight
point eight billion dollar Reeny Day Fund, the so called
stabilization fund that we have to basically say to people
here in Massachusetts who rely on snap benefits. Don't worry.
We have plenty of money to bridge whatever period of
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time your benefits will be in doubt. It seemed to
me absolutely cruel that those people were left in limbo,
and I don't know how many of them have gotten
their benefits even now, and the governor's office is sitting
on eight point eight billion dollars in the Rainy Day Fund.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Governor Heely is playing politics when it comes to She's
got all the money in the world to solve that problem,
and as governor, she ought to be solving that problem
for working families in this state and for folks that
need that benefits. If I was governor, we wouldn't be
in this position, by the way, because there's a ton
of waste and bloat in state government. I mean, heally
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in only three years, Dan has increased the state budget
by ten billion dollars. I mean we're spent. We're still
spending over three million dollars a day on migrant hotels.
We've got one hundred million dollar home base program where
Heely's moving migrant families into hotels. When it comes to
those priorities of hers, there's always money available, but when
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it comes to snap benefits, or when it comes to
paying public defenders to keep the courts open, she never
can seem to come up with the money. So I
think it's a failure of leadership. Leadership means taking decisive
action to solve problems, and I don't see heally giving
us that type of leadership.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Let me tell you, Uh, when when I look back
at the money that was spent, Uh, the the six
million dollars, no big contract for the cab company down
on the cape. Uh, you know, for for folks who
were here illegally, just stunning, stunning, and yet there wasn't
a penny of Massachusetts money we're still waiting for. You know. Well,
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I guess the Fed's released the money and and thankfully
people have have gotten some money to but you know,
it's just as is they were. I don't like to
see people treated that way. Let's go to phone calls.
Let me let's go. We got packed phone calls. I
want to get everybody in here. Let me start it
off with Ian and Holliston. Ian, you were first tonight
with Brian short Sleeve. He's a Republican candidate for governor
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next year.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Go ahead, Ian, Hey, Dan, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
All right, we can hear you perfectly. I love Holliston,
the Super Red Yeah, it's a great a great town.
Fisks General Store. Tell you you live in a beautiful town.
Go right ahead. You're on Brian shortsleeve.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
All right, Thank you, so, Brian, one thing you mentioned
frequently is your commitment to Donald Trump and the Republican ticket.
But at the same time you've also donated one hundred
thousand dollars to Democrats such as Seth Molten and Andrea Campbell.
So my question is, how can you say that you
have a commitment to Republicans such as Donald Trump and
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Jay McMahon. Well, at the same time you donate to
their opponents, Seth Molten and Andrea Campbell. Thanks agam for
having me on.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, well you're going to take the good questions with
the bad questions. Go right ahead, Brian.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Look, I'm a businessman and I operate in a blue state.
It's the cost of doing business in Massachusetts.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
You know, there's another.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Guy out there that gave a lot of money to
Democrats before he was in politics, and his name is
Donald Trump. He contributed to John Kerry. He contributed to
Hillary Clinton. He contributed to Chuck Schumer before he was
in politics. For me, it's the cost of doing business.
I'll also say that Seth Molten is someone I've known
for a long time from my days at Harvard, in
my days in the Marine Corps. And there's a lot
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of veterans on both sides of the isle, including Seth,
who I have supported over the years, a lot of
buddies from the Marine Corps who I've supported independent of
their political party. But I've given more money than anyone
in this race who Republican candidates. I have been involved
with our Republican Party for more than twenty years as
a member of the state Committee, as a member of
my Republican town committee, and I've been supporting local candidates
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for a long long time. So I'm completely committed to
our party, to growing our party, and I'm confident that
I'm going to win the primary and win the general.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
All right, appreciate you call, an, Thank you very much.
Let me go next to Brenda in Dudley, Massachusetts. Brenda,
you went next on Nightside with Brian Schwartzleeve.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Going ahead, Brenda, Hi, there, how are you doing tonight? Good?
So Brian, I have a question for you. This is
in regards to back when you were managing the MBTA
and the contract was awarded to the CRRC, the Chinese company,
(16:09):
And at this point I don't believe the work is
done yet for the Red and the Orange lines. And
there's also an issue now with some alleged child labor
issues in China.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Let me slow you down for a second here, Brenda,
if you can, before we throw everything but the kitchen
sink in here. Brian, you were the interim general manager
of the team. I'm assuming that the contracts with the
Chinese company were negotiated long before your arrival, and probably
by an administration that might have predated your arrival.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Those contracts were signed by Deval Patrick back in twenty fourteen,
before Baker became governor, and they were actually the RFP
on those I believe started back in twenty twelve. But
I can tell you this about the Tea when I
got to the Tea, when I took it over, it
was literally buried in snow and drowning in debt. Over
two years there, I balanced the budget with the Fiscal
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Management Control Board. We cut waste, we brought accountability of
the system. We delivered the lowest operating expenses in the
history of the TEA. And when I was done with
that over two years, the Boston Herald said that I
had turned a bloated, underperforming agency into one focused on people,
performance and results. So we got a tremendous amount done
during that period. The new Orange line cars are now
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on the rails and anyone out there, hopefully listening, has
ridden them. They're beautiful and they run really well. The
red cars will be coming on. But the contract you
mentioned is a contract that predates my time at the
MBTA and predates Governor Baker's time as governor.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So the criticism was the contract, Brenda. I'm sure you
realize you should be talking to I mean, it's not
a fair question, and that's why I jumped in. But
what else did you want to ask?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Well, the second part is that if you did become governor,
would you exercise more American type contracts rather than going
out of the country.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
But again, just to emphasize, he did not go out
of the country. When a contract is done by Massachusetts,
you cannot turn around and breach that contract when we
have a new governor. So the question of what he
would do in terms of contracting with American companies. That's
a legitimate question. I just want to make sure people
understand the context.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Go ahead, Brian, Oh you bet, you bet, we'd focus
on American companies, and we do with the MPGA. If
you look at the buses that are being purchased, there's
a lot of great vendors in this country, and I
hope there are great vendors for trains in this country
in the future as well. But what I can tell
you is that the Orange Line cars which are on
the rails now are performing really well, and I'm confident
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the Red Line cars when they do get on will
be will be great as it will be great for
riders too.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Brenda, just final comment for me if you wouldn't mind,
If you've been a long time listening to wbc UH
into Nightside, we went after the Patrick administration on that
boondoggle of the of the Chinese contracts. Many of those
cars have been sitting out in Springfield long before the
Baker administration took over, and and so we we spent
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a lot of time on that subject. And I don't
mean to jump on you, but that's if you weren't
listening to our broadcast back then. You you should have been,
because you would have been you would have been very
pleased with how we dealt with that issue. It was
a mistake that the Patrick administration made, and a costly
mistake at that. Thanks for the call, Brand, appreciate your call.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Thank you, You welcome.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Have a great night only line. That's opening six one seven.
Got to take a quick news break back. They're throwing
fastballs at you, Brian, but I think you're doing fine.
Let's keep rolling with callers here on Nightside back right
after the news break.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Prose, keep Rowland here, We're going to go to Sebastian
in Saga. Sebastian, you were on with Brian short Sleeve,
Republican candidate for governor, and we are talking about the
Massachusetts excise tax, which is in jeopardy of being tripled
by a piece of legislation that Brian Shortsleeve says is
(20:20):
supported by the the Heay administration.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Well, thank you for having me on. I'm glad to
be on. And honestly, this is so scary that the
Healy Driscoll administration, you know, wants to to continue to
tax us out of oblivion. No one do they call
us Taxachusetts.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Well, we're going to get that reputation, that well earned
reputation which the Baker administration kind of backed us away from.
It's coming back.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, no, and that's scary. And Brian, you know, thank
you for running. I do have a question about this
proposed excise tax. How how can you defeat Healey to
stop the proposed excise tax increase. Well, look, we're going.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
To focus on making this state affordable again for working
families and for small businesses. I mean, Mora Healy has
never met a tax she didn't like. She's proposed five
new taxes this year. The most recent is the auto
excise tax. And under her leadership, taxes continue to go up,
regulations pile up, and our private sector is slowing down.
(21:19):
I mean we're now fifty is out of fifty in
the nation. Imagine that we are dead last in private
sector job growth. So look, I am running to get
this state moving again. I want us to be number
one in private sector job growth. I want us to
be number one in entrepreneurship. But that starts with cutting taxes,
it starts with cutting utility bills. It starts with getting
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government spending under control, and when it comes to healing.
At every step of the way, she's always leaning in
to new and interesting ways to raise your taxes, and
that is driving an affordability crisis and it's frankly driving
families and businesses out of the state. When I'm governor,
we will turn that around on day one.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You know what I think Sebastian is asking, and I
think it's a really good question. You asked, Sebastian. I
don't know how old you are, how experienced you are,
but it's a really good question, Brian. In my opinion,
this is an issue that plays across the state and
I think you should take it on. And if you
beat it and can save taxpayers the tripling of excise tax,
(22:25):
what a victory. And even if the effort is in vain,
it will highlight in a way that only a gubernatorial
candidate can highlight. I'm going to talk about it here
on Nightside, I promise you, and keep me posted on this.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
People feel it every time they get that bill. You
know what else they feel every time they get a
bill is that they're electricity bills. If you look at
the cost of utility bills in the state. When I
travel to places like Totton and Westfield and New Bedford,
people bring their bills to meetings with me and they
show them to me. In some cases, you know, they've
got a two hundred and fifty dollars bill and only
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a third of it's related to the cost of power.
Another third of it are state mandated fees. Those are
fees that Mora Heally has continued to jackop. She continues
to run lots and lots of money through utility bill
And that's the type of thing people they feel it,
they see it, and it's making it harder and harder
to live here if you're on a fixed income.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Well, you know what some people say is they only
tax two things in Massachusetts, Brian, everything that moves and
everything that doesn't move. Uh, And I think it's that
we're getting close to that, actually.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Sebastian, Well, go ahead, Sebastian.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Sebastian, you have got a follow up question. If not,
I'm going to let you go. It was a great call, though.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Thank you, Oh no, no, just thank you to Brian
for running in No talk about just taxes that that
Heally and Drisco are going to continue to hit us
with that's I mean, I'm going to fixed income myself,
so this this proposed increase will will hurt me and
my family.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Well, I hear it. I hear it when I'm out
there every day. Property taxes another huge issue for working families.
I mean, there's one hundred and sixty communities in this
state in the last two and a half years, which
I've had Proposition two and a half overrides. And the
reason why local communities need an extra two or three
or four million dollars to fund the police department or
the fire department is because the state is not providing
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what it used to an unrestricted local aid. You know, historically,
unrestricted local aid grew with tax receipts. Over the last
five years, we've had an explosion in tax receipts in
this state. State government has never had more money than
it does now, but it's not getting back to cities
and towns, and that's why your property taxes are going up.
That's why your auto excise tax is going up. So look,
(24:49):
I think we've got to focus on those local issues
because those are the things making this a hard state
for small businesses and working families to make ends meet.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But let's stop the trip pling of the auto excise
tax because that will be a backbreaker. You talk about
a two and a half percent override, this, this is
going to be a two hundred percent increase in your
in your auto auto excise tax.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Well, I got a young couple buying their first car. Good,
you know, and if they've got two young kids in
baby seats, they might not be able to ride the
boss or the MBTA, you know, the new car thirty
forty thousand bucks, you're going to be spending thousands and
thousands of dollars between sales tax and auto excise tax.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I think this is a winner and not fair. And
if you get any information, Brian, as to who the
state reps are that are pushing this, if it's if
the Heli administer, if it's just the Healy administration, we'll
do this, uh and and and we'll wage We'll wage
the fight here on night side, as we wage the
fight on behalf of the state Auditor Diana Dezaglio, who
I think is probably the brightest luminary in the Democratic
(25:55):
Party in Massachusetts right now. She wants to audit the
legislature and she's being shut down by the governor's office.
She's being shut down by the Speaker, by the Senate
President and the Attorney general. And she's a Democrat, Sebastian job.
You know, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You know. One thing she did auditre She did audit
the the I was going to say, she did audit
that the Mercedes cab company you mentioned earlier. Oh, yes,
of the Mercedes Cab company, six million dollars were spent.
She did an audit and she found that in many cases,
the state was paying one hundred and fifty dollars to
move migrants two hundred feet from one side of a
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parking lot to the other. She found three hundred thousand
dollars of fees that were paid for late fees and cancelations.
The contract didn't allow that. When she asked the state
why they had paid all these fees, she found that
no one in state government had ever reviewed a single invoice.
That was the answer.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And by the way, in her mind got what happened
was if the company might believe was in Truro, and
so if they went to the next town over to
pick up one of the folks who we're here illegally,
and we're gonna take them to a shopping trip or
to a doctor's office, let's say three miles away, which
they couldn't walk. To the moment that they got to
the pickup point, the meter rang one hundred and forty
(27:14):
dollars just to be picked up, and if they were
literally driven a quarter of a mile, it was one
hundred and forty dollars plus whatever that was five bucks. Uh.
That was what was stunning. Can you imagine ordering an
uber or a cab and you go out and you
get in the uber of the cab and the moment
you walk in, the meter starts not at zero, but
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at one hundred and forty dollars. Who negotiated with that contract?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And what the auditor found was, if you if you
wanted to move people around this great state, the most
expensive way to do it. The most expensive is black car.
That's one hundred and fifty bucks a trip. Taxis are forty.
Uber and Lyft would be twenty, and the regional transit
authorities probably would have done it for free. So in
this particular case, you know, the Healy team picked the
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most expensive way to operate, and the auditor found that
taxpayer's probably got a million and a half dollars of
value out of a six point eight million dollars spent
complete financial mismanagement inside deal just as.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
They as they say, Brian, a few million here and
a few million there eventually runs into real money. Let
me get Roger in Midfield, in here before the break.
Roger gonna get you in so you have the way
through the break your own. Brian short Sleeve, Republican candidate
for governor.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Go ahead, Roger, Hey, Dan, love the show. Happy Veterans Day,
and thanks for your service for all the veterans out there.
My question is, mister short Sleeve. You mentioned you are
a Baker guy, and I want to know can our
party ever get back to what it was under good
Republicans like Baker and Romney.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Look, I think we're gonna win in twenty twenty six.
And the reason we're gonna win is because people out
there are fed up with the direction of the state.
It's not just Republicans, by the way. When I'm out
there talking to people, I'm talking to independents who feel abandoned.
I'm talking to Democrats, you know, who are fed up.
I think there's a tremendous, tremendous hunger out there for
(29:05):
change in Massachusetts right now that cuts across party lines.
And I think this is going to be the sort
of election when people wake up next summer and whether
it's you know, elderly people on fixed incomes who can't
pay their property taxes which are going up, or young
families who can't buy a home, I think you're going
to be looking for a governor that wants to bring change,
wants to bring back fiscal conservatism, wants to focus on
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cutting taxes, cutting utility bills, getting spending under control.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
And I will do that, all right.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
I'm a Romney guy, so it sounds like we're pretty similar.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Thanks Dan, thank you, Thanks Thanks Roger, give the call,
give the show calling, and I thank you very much.
We take a very quick break back with Brian George Leave,
candidate for governor, Republican running for governor here in Massachusetts.
You'll get to know all the candidates listening tonight's side.
The phone lines are going crazy. We're going to try
to get everybody in as quickly as possible, so please
have some patience. But when you get on, ask you
(29:57):
a question and we'll move to as many people as weekend.
Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You're on night Side with Dan ray On. Done you
Bzy Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Back to the phone calls for Republican candidate for Governor,
Brian short Sleeve with us Is Oscar from Quincy Oscar.
Next on Nightsig go right.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Ahead, Hi, Brian, how you doing? Happy Veterans Day? Most
of all, thank you, And as somebody who's still trying
to decide who to pick in the Republican primary here,
I just have a question about your SUPERBA or super
pac spending money on that ad with Mara Heely. Do
you think that was the best way is to spend
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resources kind of portraying more Ahey with a sombrero and
a poncho. Because the headline doesn't read Mara Heey mismanaging
the Commonwealth, it just really reads racist. At the Brian
Shortlye's pack.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know, I'm focused on my race. There are several
independent outside groups that have already announced their operating here
through the short Sleeve Committee, we've raised over a million dollars.
We had a big win in the first straw pole
down in Pembroke about six weeks ago. The most recent
poll from UMass show that I am clearly the strongest
candidate in the general election against Mora Heally. So that's
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what I'm focused on. I think Massachusetts has always worked
better with a businessman in the corner office. I've spent
my life growing businesses, in entrepreneurship. I know how to
get again.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, Brian, was this your campaign's ad, because I want
to make that very clear if it was not.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You know, the Short Sleeves Committee, which is my campaign,
hasn't run any ads. I think the caller is talking
about an outside an independent, outside group which we don't
we don't have any control over, and we don't coordinate with.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
AD does support you? Like that AD doesn't have money
back in you, and it does support you, So it
is like, do you support that kind of ad?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I mean, I'm focused on my race. Look the issues
I'm talking about. It's affordability, it's taxes, it's cutting utility bills.
That's what I'm focused on. I know how we can
move this date forward. And I'm a businessman. I know
why this is are leaving Massachusetts. I know why we're
fiftyeth out of fifty in private sector job growth. It's
because more Heally's policies have been a complete failure. She's
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raised your taxes, she's raised your electricity bills. She spent
billions of dollars on migrant housing programs which could have
been redeployed and unrestricted local aid. And if she has
spent that money sending it back to cities and talents,
as I would, you wouldn't be facing Prop two and
a half overrides, and you certainly wouldn't be looking at
a tripling of the auto excise tax. All right, focused on.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
All right, Oskar, thank you for your question. I think
he's answered your question. It was not his ad. Let
me go to Chris in Lincoln, Massachusetts. Chris next on
nice side with Brian Chotzlee. Go right ahead.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Brian, good evening.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
You're a veteran.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
I'm a veteran.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
I served all around the world, including Afghanistan.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
You did a couple of pumps overseas.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
I think mar Heeley played some European basketball.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
When your governor, what will you do.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
For US veterans? Well, fresh, thank you for your service.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Number one.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
When I'm governor, day one, first morning, homeless veterans will
have priority in the migrant in the Shelter program, in
the home Base program, all of those housing programs that
we have, our homeless veterans will have priority number one
veterans will also have priority for housing through the housing authorities.
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So I think there's a tremendous amount we need to
do right now to prioritize homeless veterans. I was out
in Leminster last week and I met with a Veterans
Service officer who told me there were one hundred homeless
veterans who were kicked out of the hotels they were
staying in by the Healey administration when the Healey administration
turned all those hotels into migrant hotels. This is out
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in Leminster. Gardener me think about that. You know, we've
we've got homeless veterans that are at the bottom of
the list, and we've got migrants that are at the
top of the list. That those are more Heey's priorities.
When I'm governor, the right to Shelter law would be
focused on Massachusetts residents who are US citizens, and veterans
would be at the top of the list.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Great question, great answer. Appreciate the call, Chris. Good one,
thank you. Okay, let me get one more in here,
Gina from Boston. Gina, you next one. Nice that with
Brian Schwatsleeve. Go right ahead, Gina, Hi, thank you.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
A recent unasked poll showed you in last place in
the primary.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Since then, your.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
Campaign have questioned the credibility of the polls while promoting
other results of s mark favorable. So which is it
as a uns legacy seemly? I say, priding the integrity
of that institution and I believe Kenna is for governor
should be consistent, honest with their voters.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Is the primary Gina? Gina, quick question? When is the primary?
It's next September, right, correck? Okay, and this is November,
so that's ten months away. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Brian said that Pole clearly showed me as the strongest
candidate to beat Mara Healy in the in the fall,
which is about one year from now. I am a
proven government reformer, I'm a proud Marine, I'm a fighter.
I'm someone will challenge the status quo. And I know
when I'm out there meeting with our primary voters they
want someone who can beat more Heally. I am the
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candidate that'll beat more Heally. I think that's why we're
getting such a great response. We're leading the field in fundraising,
we're leading the field in terms of the early stropholes,
we're leading the field in terms of the response we're
getting at our events. And I think it's because our
you know, our primary voters want someone who can win,
and they also want an outsider and a businessman to
can shake things up.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
All right, Gina, thank you for the question. Let me
try to get one more in Harrison Is in New Bedford. Harrison.
You're next on Nightside, Go right ahead, Hey, Dan.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Brian.
Speaker 10 (35:36):
First, I just wanted to thank you for coming down
to the city. It was greatly appreciated. I just want
to ask real quick. With the rising prices over the
last almost three years, I wanted to know what else
you were going to do to make Massachusetts more affordable.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Well, look, number one, let's stop raising taxes. Okay, that's
a good start. Families are getting, We're we're getting, you know.
I mean, what I would tell you is, look, when
you're in a hole, stop digging. When I am governor,
we will be cutting taxes. We will not be raising taxes.
I mean, Moriheely has proposed five new taxes this year alone,
the candy tax, the tax on prescription drugs, a tax
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on charities by ending the charitable deduction, and now a
tripling in the auto excise tax. So if you ask
me what are examples of things that are making life
too expensive in this state, it's those type taxes, and
it's also electricity bills. Moriheely killed two natural gas pipelines
when she was the Attorney General, which if they were
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in place today, would be saving working families in this
state thousands of dollars. When I am governor, we will
go to New York. We will grab Governor Hocel from
New York. We will go to the White House, We'll
grab the Williams Company and will tell them we are
ready to go build the Constitution pipeline. Get that pipeline
in place. That the one hundred and twenty five miles
(36:58):
from here is the cheapest natural gas in the country,
and there's no reason that we shouldn't be tapping into it.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And look at b might be Governor Stephanick.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
It might be Governor Stephanick. That would be even better.
But guess what you know, if you've got a Massachusetts
governor that wants to do it, the CEO of the
Williams Company has said they're ready to go and we
just need New York. But Governor Healy has been a
steadfast opponent of those things and those the result of
those policies is just making life here more and more expensive.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
All right, Harrison, great question, Thank you much. We're flat
out of time, Brian. How can folks get in touch
with you if they'd like to support your campaign? What's
the website?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Well, please join us on Facebook at Brian Shortsleeve for Massachusetts.
Our website is brianshortsleeve dot com. We've got a terrific
group of volunteers that are getting organized. We're traveling all
of the state, so sign up on Facebook, come to
the events, become a delegate. We'd love your help.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Brian. Thanks very much. You handled a variety of questions
and you handled them well. And look forward to having
you back. And let's this excise tax thing really bothers
me and so I'm I want to do a lot
more on it. Keep us posted and anything we can do,
let me know. We we got to get the legislation
to kill this thing before before it is it's a
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it's a Frankenstein, it's an absolute Frankensteign this So.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Watch your wallet, Dan, That is my advice to you
and your listeners.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'm always watching my wallet because I am in a
state where they do only tax everything that moves and
everything that doesn't move, which means simply everything.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Thanks Brian, Happy veterans, date all the veterans out there. Dad,
I always love being on the show. Thanks for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You bet you right back at you when we get back.
We're going to talk about the arrest the indictment of
two Cleveland Indian pitchers. And this is a an incredible
baseball scandal. We've had basketball, now we had baseball. It
all comes down to prop bets. We're going to talk
about that on the other side of the break. If
you still didn't want to stick with us, feel free
coming back on nights side right after the ten o'clock
(38:59):
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.