November 14, 2025 • 38 mins
Tom Brady made headlines for revealing that he and his family cloned their late beloved dog through a company called Colossal, a bioscience company that aims to revive extinct species, that also acquired ViaGen, a company specializing in reproducing deceased pets. Brady is not the first celebrity to clone their pet. Others such as Paris Hilton Barbara Streisand have done the same. Would you ever clone your pet?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray one Easy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Brad Jay for Dan Ray on this Friday night, as
we broadcast to you from our perch looking across the
city of Boston on this chilly, clear night, and the
WBZ signal comes cracking into your house or into your car,
or if you're listening on a online it comes to
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you that way. It's been coming to you for a
long time, and we hope it keeps on doing just that.
No guest tonight, as far as I know, which is fine,
it's just you and me. I have a question for you.
Would you clone your dog? Would you clone your dog?
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That's right, Maffi or fight? Do not fight? Don't? What
about real names, Bailey, Pogo, Oscar, Molly? Would you try
to replicate that dog? Well, there is a growing list
of celebrities who are doing that. One of them is
the famous quarterback Barbara Streissan Paris Hilton. Actually the list
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isn't that long. It is getting longer, It's really not
that long. For one thing, it costs about fifty grand
to clone a dog, which for some people, of course,
is nothing. And I suppose that it's their money and
they get to do whatever they want with the money
within reason. For some reason, cats are cheaper, like twenty
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five grand, and I don't understand why, because it's I
don't know, maybe the process is different for a cat.
I will go through the process and in the meantime,
don't worry about interrupting me. There's no guests. And if
you just call me up, ball has it my description
of what goes on, and you can tell me as
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you think about it. Would you clone your dog? What
does that feel kind of pet cemetery to you or
maybe just disrespectful to your current dog to think, well,
I could replaced Pogo six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. Would you clone your dog? And the fun
part or the other fun part, the additional fun is
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that I'd love to hear about your pet, your dog.
This is you don't get that option very much. You
don't get to talk about it very much. I don't
get to talk about it on the radio very much.
And this is a perfect opportunity for me to hear
about your dog. And it's also or cat or cat
or even actually if you have a more exotic pet,
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I guess that's cool too, snake, parrot, bat I don't
know if people have bats for pets. Some people are spiders.
Spiders are becoming a thing though. Six one seven two
five four ten thirty. Great chance for a chill conversation
about a subject you love. And that's your pet, your
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dog primarily, but whatever you have. I'm not going to
sell your alternative pet short. Cats totally count. People don't
give them enough credit. Cats, but cats do bring joy there.
It's an entirely different animal as it were. Now, let
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me tell you about this procedure. This might help you decide.
And also when I ask you, would you clone your pet,
let's just assume it's free. I would say, even if
it's free, six one seven two five four ten thirty.
The past couple of days I have been remissing giving
out the number. Can't expect you to remember it. I
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wouldn't remember it if I didn't do this. Also, I
know that it is intimidating to call a radio station,
to call a radio show, because even though I've been
on the radio like my entire about life. I remember
before I worked in talk radio, I called a talk
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station and I was nervous, very very nervous, very nervous.
I was kind of quaking, and I sounded nervous on
the radio when I was on the phone, So I
know that it's great to have an easy going topic
to do your first call. You know, you can't be
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wrong about this. There's always the worry that you're going
to say, you're going to make a fool of yourself.
Right Well, nope, not this time. You just can't do it.
So right away, before I even get into the procedure,
I start to Lauri and framing it. Oh, Laurie, how
are you?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I'm okay. Actually, I just lost my dog a few
weeks ago, so I mean a couple of weeks ago.
So I've been really sad and I wish I could
have caned her.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
If you had been able to clone your dog, would you.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, if I would, because I feel like they'll never
be another dog like her.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
She was amazing and and tell me about some of
her personality traits that made her special.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, she was a bug and she was just the
most loving, the sweetest dog you'll ever meet. And she
just loved people. She wanted their attemption. She didn't care
about other animals. She would kind of she would ignore
them and go right to their person.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You know, and she was just a doll.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Her name was Dolly, and she was the sweetest, sweetest
dog ever, Dolly.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And what is it about in general that that everyone
loves about dogs? I certainly love, love, love my dog.
I don't want, I don't want to offend people by
saying I love my dog more than people. But deep
down inside, deep down inside, deep down inside, you know
it's kind of true.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It is it is. I mean, I'll tell you what.
When she died, I can't believe. I mean, I believe it,
but how profound I mean, the effect was just it
was incredible. And I lost my dear friend a couple
of months ago, but this, this just threw me, threw
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me like for a complete bood. It was so awful.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Are you still Are you still.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
In a stage where you're saying to yourself, I'll never
get another dog?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah? Yeah, I am. And I still cry a lot
about her.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, you know a couple of things. It'll help you
move on with your life. Have to get another dog,
and I know it it's gonna take some time. But
the other thing, there are dogs that need you.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I don't, I don't mean to pressure you, but remember
those two things as you as you as you go
go on through. So you would you would even if
it were free or if you could afford it, you
would have found it. There's there's one thing about there's
a misconception about cloning. It's not the same dog, it's
another dog. It's it help, Yeah, want to have Personality
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of the dog is not genetic. Personality is about its
environment and how it's trained. And while it will look
like Dolly, it's, uh, it doesn't necessarily have the same
tendencies that you know. It's it's cool little habits that
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it had that Dolly had may not have. And I
almost think it's I don't know, kind of not insulting,
but I'd feel bad thinking I could replace my dog
with another dog, I'd say, because it couldn't. Dolly was special.
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To think you could replace Dolly kind of says you
weren't that special.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
No, she was so special. But I feel like I
would raise her the same way and she would just
be the you know, I feel like she would just
be the same, you know, because I think it's about
the way you're brought up, you know. But you know,
I separated or something, you know, I don't know, but.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
You could you could do this. You could if you
wanted a pug that was you know, just look, if
you get into the pug with the same colors, it
will look just a lot like Dolly. And if it's
and you, if you bring it up, it's going to
act like Dolly. It's gonna have different little weird works,
but it will be awful lot like Dolly. And in
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the meantime, you would have rescued a dog that needs
a home. So I'm hoping that might be the way
to go. And plus when you hear about what the
procedure for doing this, you probably will change your mind too.
What are the couple of weird things that weird habits
that Dolly had, because that's that's I'm very interested in that.
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I'll talk my dog's weird habits fun habits later, but
that's one of the charming things about your dog. What's uh,
you know, weird fun habit.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
This is the weirdest thing of her. When she got fixed,
you know, they put a cone on her, okay, and
you know most dogs hate cones, well not Dolly. She
she got very attached to this cone. She was, you know,
so you know young, and I mean nobody believed it,
but we video taped it. We had to get her
through like therapy to you know, popes are into five
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giving up the cone. You know, she she thought it
was just like a part of her and she loved
it and she wanted that cone on and it was
just hilarious. She was just cute, like she was so funny.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It's interesting. Maybe maybe it was like having a little
bitty house on her head that was a cozy little place.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, it was something that was just hers and she
she loved it. I don't know why it was so bizarre, Lauri.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm really glad that you you shared and I hope,
I hope it helps the healing process for you. Boy
oh boy. Uh, it is horrible to lose your dog,
and we've lost four, but you know they need us,
and so we we just kind of toughened up and
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did it again. And maybe in the two three months,
you you know, go to the rest, go to a
rescue place and just hang out and you know what,
you know what, you'll probably have a new a new friend.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Probably right because before before her, after I lost my
other dog, Keno, I said I would never get another dog,
and I said that twice, you know, and I ended
up getting another dog.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
But oh, okay, good one, good one.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
All right, Well, thank you so much, Laurie.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Now, next after this, we'll talk to Rita in Boston.
Same thing. I'm going to tell you about the cloning process.
I'd like to know if you would clone your dog
we orkat or rat. We're not rat, Okay, rat, I
didn't mean to say rat though, parrots, bat, gerbil whatever.
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As the first kind of downside we've learned is it's
not going to be your dog. It's just another dog,
probably a fun dog. But you could have rescued a
dog who may be euthanized because you didn't. I know.
It's a heavy trip to Leonya, but it's also true. Well,
also get to John and so it's John and Rita
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coming up after this on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Looks like we're we're still here. That's great. We're talking
about the possibility that you would want to clone your dog,
and so far we have actually it is a poll,
we have one for yes. Now let's go to Rita
in Boston find find out about her dog. Or cat
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or pet and find out what that pet's like and
maybe some personality trades, see if they match up with
your pets, and if she would like to clone if possible.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Hi, Rita, Hi, how are you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm fantastic, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
So my answer is no, I would not do it.
The reason is one, as you said, it would be
another pet. I have cats, so it would be a
different cat. And second, it would also, I think, make
me sad because for the other one, I would expect
a certain response, or do certain things, or have certain
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relationships with like the other pets or other family members
this one, and that would make me sad because those
were the things that made it special.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And you know what, that makes me think of something else.
Every time you looked at your clone cat, it would
remind you of your other cat, and you'd be sad
all over again, all over again, exactly, and you realize, well,
it's not that cat, and you come to love the
new cat probably, but still in the back of your mind,
every time you looked at new kitty, you'd be reminded,
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what's what's your kiddy's name?
Speaker 7 (13:54):
He was Stanley, big cat, little cat, black cat.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
He was a tux seeder kind of slim.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, black and white cat a big? Was he big stamily?
Speaker 7 (14:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
No, he wasn't. Actually he was a little on that.
He was a bit on the petite side, slim, long
and slim.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
He was.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
He was really curious. He was a funny little cat.
He photographed amazingly. He's the kind of cat in photographs
that you'd be like, oh wow, you could like make
a card or a poster or something out of his
face and person. He was adorable but really photographed well.
But I just think of like the relationships I had
with him, and he was like first little and then
you know with the other cat as they got a
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relationship with my family, and it just wouldn't be him. Now,
if you said to me, hey, Rita, I remember that
cat you lost. What if I told you I could
bring him back and he would be exactly like he was? Okay,
But I couldn't. I just wouldn't want to do that
to him because it wouldn't be him.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Uh. How did you get to name Stanley? I'm always
curious about I'm curious about names of bands and names
of pet Stanley. How that?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Okay? It was because I had I had I had
found another one beforehand, and I couldn't figure out what
to name them. So I found her first. She was
from a different litter and I said, you know, just
taking talking to my mom and stuff that, I said,
what should I name them? I don't know what to do.
She goes Sella and Stanley from street Car Name's Desire.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh see, that's a cool story.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, and any weird quirks.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Stanley head, I'll tell you what was interesting.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
He could catch a mouse or something like no cat
I've ever had. We were sitting at the kitchen table
one time and within a flesh he literally just flipped
his body completely around. I mean just it was amazing
to watch flipped his body completely around to jump on
the wash machine which was behind us, and there was
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something he caught and lost behind it, like there was
something on top of.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
The washing machine.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
And he managed this and even though there was something
in front of it, and it was the most amazing
thing to watch him do. He was a talker. He
constantly talked all the time. He really had to have
snuggles all the time. He was just a fun cat.
He was just a sweet cat, a pretty cat. And
I missed him. But you know, this is what I say.
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He was a straight He was one of a litter
that I found. And I think to myself, you know,
I wouldn't have got to enjoy him if I you know,
maybe was hat, you know, like you say, if I
cloned a different cat. But I got to enjoy him
and experience how great he was. Right, because I didn't
have a cat, this might give me the opportunity moving
forward to find another great cat, not a replacement, but
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just another great cat.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's right. And if you didn't had a cat before
Stanley and cloned that cat, you wouldn't have Stanley exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yeah, so it's not I think we get caught up
that cloning means it's going to be the same, you know,
all the same.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Misconception.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Yeah, it's just their body. It's just the physical that's
the same. Nothing else is the same.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
By the way, at some point we're gonna have to
have the same down the road, we're gonna have to
have the same conversation about people. You know, would would
you it's so creepy, would you clone Grammy? That would
be so weird because at some point your grandmother would
be a baby again, and then you'd be taking care
of your clone grandmother. Wouldn't that be weird?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah, And then that's not the relationship, is it. That's
not the relationship that I have with her.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
That's not the person I know would like to see
that movie or a book or Yeah, And.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
It wouldn't be the same person either, because you know,
you're in a different place than when you, like with
an animal, So you're in a different place than when
you first got that animal. So the relationship might never
be what it was before because it's not the same environment.
Like if I get my grandmother, but she's a baby,
what am I going to do? It's just it doesn't
make any sense. I'm raising now, So it's a different
relationship all together.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
It would also be different because real Grammy was born
probably in nineteen twenty four and grew up during that
time and during World War Two in the sixties. But
new Grammy, you know, it's two years four years old.
Then new Grammy would have her head buried in the
phone all day and be much more boring than old Grammy.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Right, so you would just have a kid, then why
would you go the right?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, great Carl, thank you Reta, thank you, Rita. I
only have a like a minute before the break. So
what I'll do so I don't cheat either Alex or
John out of her out of their time. Let me
give you a little more background and we'll do this
a little as we go. The first clone animal was
Dolly the sheep, do you remember that back in nineteen
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ninety six, which was for some reason, sheep are easier
than dogs. There's something about the canine reproductive process. It
makes it trickier. Then, after several failed attempts, a South
Korean team managed to come up with a pair of
Afghan hound puppies. One died right away, one lived ten years,
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and they're moving up to today. They're a handful of
commercial companies, by the way, this information I'm getting now,
so you know, comes from the Smithsonian, a Smithsonian White website.
Handful of institutions. For some reason, South Korea is a
big place for it, and one of them, the United
States based Viagin, charges fifty grand before taxes. Geez, I
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wonder what the taxes would be paid in two installments
to clone your dog. In case you're wondering, they also
clone casts for twenty five k and I have time
to give you a little bit of a procedure and
then we'll move on. What they do is they they
take some cells from the original you know, the dog,
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the older dog, and then they uh bring them to
the laboratory and then they have some eggs they get
from the Filippian tubes of another dog, which is another downside.
Some other poor dog has to have their Filippian tubes
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invaded to get some eggs. Then they take them into
the lab and they use a little pipette needle. It's
think of this. It's like, you know what boba tea is.
I've never had it. It looks disgusting. I probably never will,
but it's it's kind of a milk tea with these
little balls of gillatin in it. It's like if you
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kind of stuck a straw in that stuff and sucked
out one of those little boba pearls. And then they
take them into the lab. And I'll tell you the
next part. After the breaking, we'll get to David and
San Francisco, Alex and John. We'll have John next on
DOWGBZY with Dan Ray on.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Boston's news radio where you ast.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
The dog right, Yes, my Dama's wan a heartbreak. What
would you say? His name was again Oliver?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well, Oliver's in luck because we're having a specialist week.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Twenty percent of when did Oliver die? Sometimes just morning.
Oh that's perfect. We can still have a postmotive syncurdy.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
But you got to act fast because there's only a
twelve hour window on the ceased brains.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I have a problem with that whole idea. It supposed
the clones has no sore, but it's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Clone pets are every bit as safe as real pets,
plus they're insure.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
If it is as safe, then why is it against
the law to clone human beings?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Because the human brain is much too complicated as sincourt.
Now you remember that experiment they did, right, Yes, so
that's why that didn't work, and now it's illegal to
even try. But with pets, he said, totally proven technologies.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Your repet Oliver could be exactly the same dog. Good one,
Rob Brooks. Rob Brooks dug that up on the fly.
That's cool. I'm asking you if you would clone your pet,
even if it were free, even if you're not fifty grand.
And so far we have one yes and one no,
and I've given you a little bit about how it
goes the procedure, and I'll take talk to some of
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you and then give you a little more on the procedure.
Thanks for hanging in there, John, and Wooburn. How do
you do him?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Bradley?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Jay?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Of course, John, of course.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Anyhow, the last time I talked to you, I was
talking about my susy town across from Norman, Normal and
Nathan up in Middleton. Okay, you remember me? Yeah, maybe
I can't.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I can't lie because whenever you lie, you get busted.
So I wanted, I want, yeah, I want desperately to
say yes, but I have to say no. So tell
me about your pet.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Your dog, all right, my dog my mother. My mother
used to work at Sylvania Moving. You know, a lady
right as he worked with a dog had her litter
And anyhow, we got a dog and we named it.
She named the dog Fritz. And Fritz was a girl
with a boy's name. Sixteen years I had her.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Wow, and so would you clone Fritz? No, had the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Only I used to call Fritz the hostess with the mostes.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Right, there's only one Fritz, and a clone of Fritz
would not be Fritz would look like Fritz, but it
would not have the same necessarily have the same personality.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, so good for you. Do you have a new
dog or anything?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
No, No, Because I'm a mason, I'm always working. I
put in nine hours today. It wouldn't be fair to
have the dog at home. You have to have a
dog on olisa.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's right. What do you do that takes What do
you do that takes nine hours?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Well? I built song walls and chimneys and concrete work
and patios and bush stay is. I was in conk
It today, cocking Mess, Cogget Mass. You know where the
Toggot Bridge is?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yes? Yeah, well no, the Lexington Conquered Bridge. That one. Yeah,
kind of neighborhood, vaguely.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Three houses down from the bridge. Anyhow, I wanted to
ask you right the last time I was talking to you,
you told me that on Wednesday night you were in
Denham from six to seven thirty. Nope, that's at a restaurant.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
No, that must be someone else, that's not me. Thank
you for checking in. And uh, I'm sorry to hear
you lost your dog, but at least you got a job.
Thank you very much, John and now it's Alex and
milliss I think I know you. Alex.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
Hey Brady, thanks for taking my call a long time.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
No, no here, yeah, not that long as you call
last time. I always remember you.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Oh yeah, Okay. Well I was going to say we
have a golden doodle and uh we we got him
from a breeder, and h this dog is amazing. He's
I get so many compliments, not because he's a golden
doodle or because he's.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
My dog, but a name.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
His name is Apollo.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
We happen to be Greek, and because I love uh,
you know, Greek mythology.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I know you are very much into your heritage.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Yeah. I don't know if it's a bad thing or
a good thing, but yeah, so this dog Apollo. Actually,
my wife wasn't a dog person. She says, I don't
want to get a dog, but we got him from
for our son. And once we got this uh this,
uh you know, our goldendoodle, my wife fell in love
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with him. So he's uh, he happens to be uh,
you know, no kiddy bilingual, so he understands commands and
you know, both languages, and he's uh, I take him
everywhere with me, you know, because these dogs. They need
a lot of exercise and they're very athletic. Yeah, we
go every place. We go to people, you know, the
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like the bank or even like you know, uh uh
sometimes dunkin Donuts. They don't mind you going in there.
They all give them a treat.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
So would you clone, you know, would you clone if
you if.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
It were I don't want to play guard and you know, like, uh,
it's it's like it would bring uh, it would give
me a sort of like a bad I guess bad
uh uh memory, you know, right right.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
And plus there is the general creepiness facts there factor Alex,
thank you so much. The time's going so quickly and
there and they're folks to talk to. Next is David
and San Francisco.
Speaker 9 (26:46):
Hi, David, Hey Bradley, did you hear from you?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Man?
Speaker 9 (26:51):
I've been listening to the last couple of nights and
it's such such a You're such a tree to listen to. Anyhow, Yeah,
I'll play a cat and all my life basically I
had a few dogs, but I mostly had cats, and
I would have every one of them cloned because they
were just so dear. But one pet I had when
I first came to San Francisco in nineteen seventy eight.
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I got tarantula and I had it for about six
months and then a friend of my roommates came into
my room and he says, oh, can I put it
on my arm? I said, sure, and Church's arm and
the thing thall on the floor about two feet down
and it took it about two weeks to die because
of a real send bit of plumbing between the floorax
and the abdomen. And her name was Bobby Sue, and
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I used to feed her crickets. She come over to
my hand in her cage and to take the cricket
out of my hand and have dinner.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And I recently become an insect. And I guess spiders
are not insects. They're are rechnids, right, But I don't
know the insects. That's beside the point. I'm into them
now that I've seen a lot of close up for timeography,
and they are there quite amazing.
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Anyhow. The reason I'm calling is I have a music
question for you.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Okay, quick, because really quick, oh.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Quickly, I'm going to name four four groups and I
want you to tell them what they have in common. Okay,
Grateful Dad eurythmics, pretenders, and traveling Wilbury they have in common.
None of them use the words are.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
All right, David, thank you, and you stay healthy. It's
just say forty four. Let me give you a little
more scoop on how this works. I've told you how
they get the egg out of the female one. Another
bad thing about this is it takes many females that
you have to use to get the eggs. So you
have to have this whole subculture of just dogs for parts,
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right that they have to stay somewhere, and they farm
the eggs out of them. That's horrible. That's horrible, and
I'm surprised these celebrities would do this. Now, once you
get the egg and the original egg, the original cell
and the new one, they take the nucleus out of
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one to put it in the other, and then they
actually zap it with electricity. They actually do, and that
fuses the two together. And it's somehow jump starts the
cell division process, which is particularly interesting because it might
give you some idea of how life started. There might
have just been the correct chemicals next to each other
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and lightning hit them and cell division started. It's pretty simple.
Six seven, two. Would your clown clone your your pet?
I would not not at all. I'll tell you about
my pet very briefly right now, and then we'll get
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to Wayne and Kingston.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
So we have.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Docsin's and not just not the big ones, the little ones.
I think it seems like their back's not so long
and they seem more durable. And Molly is a merle
colored kind of black and white, small and has these
interesting quirks. She's very time and you may find the
europe dog is very much the same, very time sensitive,
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like it's time when it's time for breakfast. It is
time for breakfast when it's time. And the other thing
is she's a fanatic for the heating pad. She's ruled
by heat. She will go lay on the radiator and
then if you can put on the heating pad enough,
she'll come to the heating pad. But if the radiator
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is still hotter than the heating pad, she won't come
to the heating pad. And then if the heating pad
goes off, she starts booping you and hitting your arm,
like come on, turn the heating pad on again, and
you have to wrestle her for the heating pad. And
then about the cutest thing is she knows when it's bedtime,
about nine o'clock, she'll start, she'll start to go into
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the what is called the big bed. She'll she'll go
a couple of yards and look back like come on,
and she won't. And then if we make a move
towards the big bed, she'll run a little way and
look back like, are you sure you're coming or you're
just messing with me? And it's not until we fully
get up and march in there that she will get
up on the big bed. And oh, yes, four o'clock
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every afternoon she knows it's time to go visit her
uncle Davy next door. And so around four o'clock it's,
you know, start nudging you, come on, come on, let's go. Well,
run around giving you the look. And then if you
say the name I want to see Davy. That's that's
the word. She knows more than anything else, Davy. She
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jumps up, cocks her head and is raring to go.
Can't get the leshaw on quick enough. She's a sweetheart,
And we love those little routines. Now after this we're
gonna talk about a much bigger dog. Oh, by the way,
would I clone Molly. No way, no way, it wouldn't
be Mollie. And if I would definitely get another rescue,
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if I were going to get another dog, because if
I clone Mollie, some poor dog in a shelter, a
kill shelter will be euthanized. And if I don't, I
save one. Down south of Tennessee. Down there they have
these puppy farms and once the dogs get too old,
they kill them. I don't understand. I don't understand why
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it's legal. But you if you clone your dog instead
of doing that, I would be said Wayne Kingson's next
on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
news Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Would you clone your dog even if it were free?
Yes or no? So far the nose are edging out
the yeses. Let's go to Wayne and Kingston. It was
a great big dog. Hello, Hello Wayne, thanks for checking in.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Hey Bradley, how you doing. I'm gonna jump right into
that no category with all the other folks. Your your pet,
your dog is greater than the some total disparts. His
experiences growing up with you and your household. That's what
makes him who he is. Well, that story that you
told about Molly is is a cool story when you
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think about it. Allie has a life spent with you
and Shannon, and then also with Jack and Daisy that
you had before they spent She spent time with those
two dogs too, so that's who she is. You could
never replace that.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
We mentioned Jack and Daisy. Gotta I gotta mentioned Gator
and Skyler two. I can't leave those guys out.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yeah, absolutely, I didn't even get a chance to even
get to them. But that's that's who Daisy is. And
Quinn my dog, now that I have Swiss Mountain dog,
he is his his his environment is what makes what
he is. And he was born from a large litter
of eleven puppies, so he has a lot of siblings
in that litter. And if you would have cloned him tomorrow,
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that could never be repeated. It just couldn't happen. So
you know your dog, We had Zurich, a Swiss bound
dog before him, and he was a big part of
the life of our horse Paddington. You can't create that
environment anymore, so there's no way the cloning. The cloning
would produce the same pet. It's just it's the same
thing with a human you just couldn't do it again.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Plus it's just creepy.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
It is creepy, absolute he is creepys.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Wayne shows Quinn and it's pretty successful. You have a
recent show you went too.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
Yes, we were just actually at the dog show in Boxboro,
Massachusetts last weekend, and h we didn't win Best at Breed,
but we did get pretty close. We got it's called
best of Breed own are handled because that's a separate category,
so we got to look. We got an award for
that show, and then we'll be off to Springfield next weekend.
So we've got a few things going on on our
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calendar here, so we're having a good time. We have
a lot of friends out there in the dog show world.
And what's what's nice about it is that people are
who do this breed quality dogs. They don't just do
puppy mill stuff. They hear all those sad stories about
because that's so they're so wrong with puppy mills. They
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just irresponsibly breed dogs and they don't even realize by
what they're doing that they're actually breeding unhealthy animals going forward,
and like you said about all the rescues, that's a
that's a lot of book Gold to try to, you know,
to try to provide a home to a rescue dog.
But a lot of that is the result of people
who will irresponsibly breed because they're breeding dogs that have
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diseases and cancer and all kinds of hip displays, your
shoulder problems and things like that, and that's how they
end up in these shelters.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, thank you so much for checking in and all
the best to you, know you and your family, including Quinn.
Speaker 8 (36:11):
Thank you all right, and you give them all your
path for me please.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Okay, we'll do that's Wayne, good guy. Okay, let's go
through what we learned and really see how we feel
about the cloning. I guess you can tell from my
the things I'm saying that I am completely against it
for a number of reasons. To recount those reasons, one,
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it won't be the same dog, and you could have
got a rescue dog or if you need to, you know,
get a fancy dog for showing you could do that,
but it's not the way to go. But one reason
is that it takes many other dogs to do this procedure,
and those dogs are just kind of used for parts.
As I say, that part being he and I know
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I mentioned it won't be the same dog. What about
the failures. There are a lot of them that don't
take And that's pretty sad. If this if that were
a human situation and you had a fetuses just not
making it, I mean that would that would be awful
the same thing it's I think it's an insult to
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your dog to try to replace it. Every time you
look at this clone dog, you're going to say, oh,
you're gonna feel bad about the clone source your original dog.
And you know what, it's not free. It's fifty grand.
So say you're a rich person, and maybe you are.
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You know what, please do something else with that fifty grand.
Imagine what fifty thousand dollars would do for a place
like Schultzer Guesthouse in Dedham. I've dealt with them and
for sixteen years they've been getting rescue dogs and fostering
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them I guess you call it, and finding them homes.
They say, for over sixteen years, we've dedicated ourselves to
their will being, turning compassion into action, one tale at
a time. And I think we got one of our
dogs in there and another one and I'm glad I
have a little time for this quick story. There's a
place called New House Wildlife Rescue and we found a
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little bit of goose in the road. It was going
to be killed. We took it there and they actually
reunited it with another goose family and it took and
everyone lived happily ever after. So spend your fifty grand
on that please. This is WBZ and I'll talk to
you well right after this
It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray one Easy Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Brad Jay for Dan Ray on this Friday night, as
we broadcast to you from our perch looking across the
city of Boston on this chilly, clear night, and the
WBZ signal comes cracking into your house or into your car,
or if you're listening on a online it comes to
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you that way. It's been coming to you for a
long time, and we hope it keeps on doing just that.
No guest tonight, as far as I know, which is fine,
it's just you and me. I have a question for you.
Would you clone your dog? Would you clone your dog?
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That's right, Maffi or fight? Do not fight? Don't? What
about real names, Bailey, Pogo, Oscar, Molly? Would you try
to replicate that dog? Well, there is a growing list
of celebrities who are doing that. One of them is
the famous quarterback Barbara Streissan Paris Hilton. Actually the list
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isn't that long. It is getting longer, It's really not
that long. For one thing, it costs about fifty grand
to clone a dog, which for some people, of course,
is nothing. And I suppose that it's their money and
they get to do whatever they want with the money
within reason. For some reason, cats are cheaper, like twenty
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five grand, and I don't understand why, because it's I
don't know, maybe the process is different for a cat.
I will go through the process and in the meantime,
don't worry about interrupting me. There's no guests. And if
you just call me up, ball has it my description
of what goes on, and you can tell me as
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you think about it. Would you clone your dog? What
does that feel kind of pet cemetery to you or
maybe just disrespectful to your current dog to think, well,
I could replaced Pogo six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. Would you clone your dog? And the fun
part or the other fun part, the additional fun is
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that I'd love to hear about your pet, your dog.
This is you don't get that option very much. You
don't get to talk about it very much. I don't
get to talk about it on the radio very much.
And this is a perfect opportunity for me to hear
about your dog. And it's also or cat or cat
or even actually if you have a more exotic pet,
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I guess that's cool too, snake, parrot, bat I don't
know if people have bats for pets. Some people are spiders.
Spiders are becoming a thing though. Six one seven two
five four ten thirty. Great chance for a chill conversation
about a subject you love. And that's your pet, your
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dog primarily, but whatever you have. I'm not going to
sell your alternative pet short. Cats totally count. People don't
give them enough credit. Cats, but cats do bring joy there.
It's an entirely different animal as it were. Now, let
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me tell you about this procedure. This might help you decide.
And also when I ask you, would you clone your pet,
let's just assume it's free. I would say, even if
it's free, six one seven two five four ten thirty.
The past couple of days I have been remissing giving
out the number. Can't expect you to remember it. I
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wouldn't remember it if I didn't do this. Also, I
know that it is intimidating to call a radio station,
to call a radio show, because even though I've been
on the radio like my entire about life. I remember
before I worked in talk radio, I called a talk
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station and I was nervous, very very nervous, very nervous.
I was kind of quaking, and I sounded nervous on
the radio when I was on the phone, So I
know that it's great to have an easy going topic
to do your first call. You know, you can't be
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wrong about this. There's always the worry that you're going
to say, you're going to make a fool of yourself.
Right Well, nope, not this time. You just can't do it.
So right away, before I even get into the procedure,
I start to Lauri and framing it. Oh, Laurie, how
are you?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I'm okay. Actually, I just lost my dog a few
weeks ago, so I mean a couple of weeks ago.
So I've been really sad and I wish I could
have caned her.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
If you had been able to clone your dog, would you.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, if I would, because I feel like they'll never
be another dog like her.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
She was amazing and and tell me about some of
her personality traits that made her special.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, she was a bug and she was just the
most loving, the sweetest dog you'll ever meet. And she
just loved people. She wanted their attemption. She didn't care
about other animals. She would kind of she would ignore
them and go right to their person.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You know, and she was just a doll.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Her name was Dolly, and she was the sweetest, sweetest
dog ever, Dolly.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And what is it about in general that that everyone
loves about dogs? I certainly love, love, love my dog.
I don't want, I don't want to offend people by
saying I love my dog more than people. But deep
down inside, deep down inside, deep down inside, you know
it's kind of true.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It is it is. I mean, I'll tell you what.
When she died, I can't believe. I mean, I believe it,
but how profound I mean, the effect was just it
was incredible. And I lost my dear friend a couple
of months ago, but this, this just threw me, threw
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me like for a complete bood. It was so awful.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Are you still Are you still.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
In a stage where you're saying to yourself, I'll never
get another dog?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah? Yeah, I am. And I still cry a lot
about her.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, you know a couple of things. It'll help you
move on with your life. Have to get another dog,
and I know it it's gonna take some time. But
the other thing, there are dogs that need you.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I don't, I don't mean to pressure you, but remember
those two things as you as you as you go
go on through. So you would you would even if
it were free or if you could afford it, you
would have found it. There's there's one thing about there's
a misconception about cloning. It's not the same dog, it's
another dog. It's it help, Yeah, want to have Personality
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of the dog is not genetic. Personality is about its
environment and how it's trained. And while it will look
like Dolly, it's, uh, it doesn't necessarily have the same
tendencies that you know. It's it's cool little habits that
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it had that Dolly had may not have. And I
almost think it's I don't know, kind of not insulting,
but I'd feel bad thinking I could replace my dog
with another dog, I'd say, because it couldn't. Dolly was special.
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To think you could replace Dolly kind of says you
weren't that special.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
No, she was so special. But I feel like I
would raise her the same way and she would just
be the you know, I feel like she would just
be the same, you know, because I think it's about
the way you're brought up, you know. But you know,
I separated or something, you know, I don't know, but.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
You could you could do this. You could if you
wanted a pug that was you know, just look, if
you get into the pug with the same colors, it
will look just a lot like Dolly. And if it's
and you, if you bring it up, it's going to
act like Dolly. It's gonna have different little weird works,
but it will be awful lot like Dolly. And in
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the meantime, you would have rescued a dog that needs
a home. So I'm hoping that might be the way
to go. And plus when you hear about what the
procedure for doing this, you probably will change your mind too.
What are the couple of weird things that weird habits
that Dolly had, because that's that's I'm very interested in that.
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I'll talk my dog's weird habits fun habits later, but
that's one of the charming things about your dog. What's uh,
you know, weird fun habit.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
This is the weirdest thing of her. When she got fixed,
you know, they put a cone on her, okay, and
you know most dogs hate cones, well not Dolly. She
she got very attached to this cone. She was, you know,
so you know young, and I mean nobody believed it,
but we video taped it. We had to get her
through like therapy to you know, popes are into five
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giving up the cone. You know, she she thought it
was just like a part of her and she loved
it and she wanted that cone on and it was
just hilarious. She was just cute, like she was so funny.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It's interesting. Maybe maybe it was like having a little
bitty house on her head that was a cozy little place.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, it was something that was just hers and she
she loved it. I don't know why it was so bizarre, Lauri.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm really glad that you you shared and I hope,
I hope it helps the healing process for you. Boy
oh boy. Uh, it is horrible to lose your dog,
and we've lost four, but you know they need us,
and so we we just kind of toughened up and
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did it again. And maybe in the two three months,
you you know, go to the rest, go to a
rescue place and just hang out and you know what,
you know what, you'll probably have a new a new friend.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Probably right because before before her, after I lost my
other dog, Keno, I said I would never get another dog,
and I said that twice, you know, and I ended
up getting another dog.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
But oh, okay, good one, good one.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
All right, Well, thank you so much, Laurie.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Now, next after this, we'll talk to Rita in Boston.
Same thing. I'm going to tell you about the cloning process.
I'd like to know if you would clone your dog
we orkat or rat. We're not rat, Okay, rat, I
didn't mean to say rat though, parrots, bat, gerbil whatever.
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As the first kind of downside we've learned is it's
not going to be your dog. It's just another dog,
probably a fun dog. But you could have rescued a
dog who may be euthanized because you didn't. I know.
It's a heavy trip to Leonya, but it's also true. Well,
also get to John and so it's John and Rita
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coming up after this on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Looks like we're we're still here. That's great. We're talking
about the possibility that you would want to clone your dog,
and so far we have actually it is a poll,
we have one for yes. Now let's go to Rita
in Boston find find out about her dog. Or cat
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or pet and find out what that pet's like and
maybe some personality trades, see if they match up with
your pets, and if she would like to clone if possible.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Hi, Rita, Hi, how are you.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm fantastic, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
So my answer is no, I would not do it.
The reason is one, as you said, it would be
another pet. I have cats, so it would be a
different cat. And second, it would also, I think, make
me sad because for the other one, I would expect
a certain response, or do certain things, or have certain
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relationships with like the other pets or other family members
this one, and that would make me sad because those
were the things that made it special.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And you know what, that makes me think of something else.
Every time you looked at your clone cat, it would
remind you of your other cat, and you'd be sad
all over again, all over again, exactly, and you realize, well,
it's not that cat, and you come to love the
new cat probably, but still in the back of your mind,
every time you looked at new kitty, you'd be reminded,
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what's what's your kiddy's name?
Speaker 7 (13:54):
He was Stanley, big cat, little cat, black cat.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
He was a tux seeder kind of slim.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, black and white cat a big? Was he big stamily?
Speaker 7 (14:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:07):
No, he wasn't. Actually he was a little on that.
He was a bit on the petite side, slim, long
and slim.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
He was.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
He was really curious. He was a funny little cat.
He photographed amazingly. He's the kind of cat in photographs
that you'd be like, oh wow, you could like make
a card or a poster or something out of his
face and person. He was adorable but really photographed well.
But I just think of like the relationships I had
with him, and he was like first little and then
you know with the other cat as they got a
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relationship with my family, and it just wouldn't be him. Now,
if you said to me, hey, Rita, I remember that
cat you lost. What if I told you I could
bring him back and he would be exactly like he was? Okay,
But I couldn't. I just wouldn't want to do that
to him because it wouldn't be him.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Uh. How did you get to name Stanley? I'm always
curious about I'm curious about names of bands and names
of pet Stanley. How that?
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Okay? It was because I had I had I had
found another one beforehand, and I couldn't figure out what
to name them. So I found her first. She was
from a different litter and I said, you know, just
taking talking to my mom and stuff that, I said,
what should I name them? I don't know what to do.
She goes Sella and Stanley from street Car Name's Desire.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh see, that's a cool story.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, and any weird quirks.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Stanley head, I'll tell you what was interesting.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
He could catch a mouse or something like no cat
I've ever had. We were sitting at the kitchen table
one time and within a flesh he literally just flipped
his body completely around. I mean just it was amazing
to watch flipped his body completely around to jump on
the wash machine which was behind us, and there was
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something he caught and lost behind it, like there was
something on top of.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
The washing machine.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
And he managed this and even though there was something
in front of it, and it was the most amazing
thing to watch him do. He was a talker. He
constantly talked all the time. He really had to have
snuggles all the time. He was just a fun cat.
He was just a sweet cat, a pretty cat. And
I missed him. But you know, this is what I say.
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He was a straight He was one of a litter
that I found. And I think to myself, you know,
I wouldn't have got to enjoy him if I you know,
maybe was hat, you know, like you say, if I
cloned a different cat. But I got to enjoy him
and experience how great he was. Right, because I didn't
have a cat, this might give me the opportunity moving
forward to find another great cat, not a replacement, but
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just another great cat.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's right. And if you didn't had a cat before
Stanley and cloned that cat, you wouldn't have Stanley exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yeah, so it's not I think we get caught up
that cloning means it's going to be the same, you know,
all the same.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Misconception.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Yeah, it's just their body. It's just the physical that's
the same. Nothing else is the same.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
By the way, at some point we're gonna have to
have the same down the road, we're gonna have to
have the same conversation about people. You know, would would
you it's so creepy, would you clone Grammy? That would
be so weird because at some point your grandmother would
be a baby again, and then you'd be taking care
of your clone grandmother. Wouldn't that be weird?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah, And then that's not the relationship, is it. That's
not the relationship that I have with her.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
That's not the person I know would like to see
that movie or a book or Yeah, And.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
It wouldn't be the same person either, because you know,
you're in a different place than when you, like with
an animal, So you're in a different place than when
you first got that animal. So the relationship might never
be what it was before because it's not the same environment.
Like if I get my grandmother, but she's a baby,
what am I going to do? It's just it doesn't
make any sense. I'm raising now, So it's a different
relationship all together.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
It would also be different because real Grammy was born
probably in nineteen twenty four and grew up during that
time and during World War Two in the sixties. But
new Grammy, you know, it's two years four years old.
Then new Grammy would have her head buried in the
phone all day and be much more boring than old Grammy.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Right, so you would just have a kid, then why
would you go the right?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, great Carl, thank you Reta, thank you, Rita. I
only have a like a minute before the break. So
what I'll do so I don't cheat either Alex or
John out of her out of their time. Let me
give you a little more background and we'll do this
a little as we go. The first clone animal was
Dolly the sheep, do you remember that back in nineteen
(18:50):
ninety six, which was for some reason, sheep are easier
than dogs. There's something about the canine reproductive process. It
makes it trickier. Then, after several failed attempts, a South
Korean team managed to come up with a pair of
Afghan hound puppies. One died right away, one lived ten years,
(19:11):
and they're moving up to today. They're a handful of
commercial companies, by the way, this information I'm getting now,
so you know, comes from the Smithsonian, a Smithsonian White website.
Handful of institutions. For some reason, South Korea is a
big place for it, and one of them, the United
States based Viagin, charges fifty grand before taxes. Geez, I
(19:34):
wonder what the taxes would be paid in two installments
to clone your dog. In case you're wondering, they also
clone casts for twenty five k and I have time
to give you a little bit of a procedure and
then we'll move on. What they do is they they
take some cells from the original you know, the dog,
(19:57):
the older dog, and then they uh bring them to
the laboratory and then they have some eggs they get
from the Filippian tubes of another dog, which is another downside.
Some other poor dog has to have their Filippian tubes
(20:17):
invaded to get some eggs. Then they take them into
the lab and they use a little pipette needle. It's
think of this. It's like, you know what boba tea is.
I've never had it. It looks disgusting. I probably never will,
but it's it's kind of a milk tea with these
little balls of gillatin in it. It's like if you
(20:40):
kind of stuck a straw in that stuff and sucked
out one of those little boba pearls. And then they
take them into the lab. And I'll tell you the
next part. After the breaking, we'll get to David and
San Francisco, Alex and John. We'll have John next on
DOWGBZY with Dan Ray on.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Boston's news radio where you ast.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
The dog right, Yes, my Dama's wan a heartbreak. What
would you say? His name was again Oliver?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well, Oliver's in luck because we're having a specialist week.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Twenty percent of when did Oliver die? Sometimes just morning.
Oh that's perfect. We can still have a postmotive syncurdy.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
But you got to act fast because there's only a
twelve hour window on the ceased brains.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I have a problem with that whole idea. It supposed
the clones has no sore, but it's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Clone pets are every bit as safe as real pets,
plus they're insure.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
If it is as safe, then why is it against
the law to clone human beings?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Because the human brain is much too complicated as sincourt.
Now you remember that experiment they did, right, Yes, so
that's why that didn't work, and now it's illegal to
even try. But with pets, he said, totally proven technologies.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Your repet Oliver could be exactly the same dog. Good one,
Rob Brooks. Rob Brooks dug that up on the fly.
That's cool. I'm asking you if you would clone your pet,
even if it were free, even if you're not fifty grand.
And so far we have one yes and one no,
and I've given you a little bit about how it
goes the procedure, and I'll take talk to some of
(22:18):
you and then give you a little more on the procedure.
Thanks for hanging in there, John, and Wooburn. How do
you do him?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Bradley?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Jay?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Of course, John, of course.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Anyhow, the last time I talked to you, I was
talking about my susy town across from Norman, Normal and
Nathan up in Middleton. Okay, you remember me? Yeah, maybe
I can't.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I can't lie because whenever you lie, you get busted.
So I wanted, I want, yeah, I want desperately to
say yes, but I have to say no. So tell
me about your pet.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Your dog, all right, my dog my mother. My mother
used to work at Sylvania Moving. You know, a lady
right as he worked with a dog had her litter
And anyhow, we got a dog and we named it.
She named the dog Fritz. And Fritz was a girl
with a boy's name. Sixteen years I had her.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Wow, and so would you clone Fritz? No, had the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Only I used to call Fritz the hostess with the mostes.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Right, there's only one Fritz, and a clone of Fritz
would not be Fritz would look like Fritz, but it
would not have the same necessarily have the same personality.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, so good for you. Do you have a new
dog or anything?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
No, No, Because I'm a mason, I'm always working. I
put in nine hours today. It wouldn't be fair to
have the dog at home. You have to have a
dog on olisa.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's right. What do you do that takes What do
you do that takes nine hours?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Well? I built song walls and chimneys and concrete work
and patios and bush stay is. I was in conk
It today, cocking Mess, Cogget Mass. You know where the
Toggot Bridge is?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yes? Yeah, well no, the Lexington Conquered Bridge. That one. Yeah,
kind of neighborhood, vaguely.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Three houses down from the bridge. Anyhow, I wanted to
ask you right the last time I was talking to you,
you told me that on Wednesday night you were in
Denham from six to seven thirty. Nope, that's at a restaurant.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
No, that must be someone else, that's not me. Thank
you for checking in. And uh, I'm sorry to hear
you lost your dog, but at least you got a job.
Thank you very much, John and now it's Alex and
milliss I think I know you. Alex.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
Hey Brady, thanks for taking my call a long time.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
No, no here, yeah, not that long as you call
last time. I always remember you.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Oh yeah, Okay. Well I was going to say we
have a golden doodle and uh we we got him
from a breeder, and h this dog is amazing. He's
I get so many compliments, not because he's a golden
doodle or because he's.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
My dog, but a name.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
His name is Apollo.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
We happen to be Greek, and because I love uh,
you know, Greek mythology.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I know you are very much into your heritage.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Yeah. I don't know if it's a bad thing or
a good thing, but yeah, so this dog Apollo. Actually,
my wife wasn't a dog person. She says, I don't
want to get a dog, but we got him from
for our son. And once we got this uh this,
uh you know, our goldendoodle, my wife fell in love
(25:46):
with him. So he's uh, he happens to be uh,
you know, no kiddy bilingual, so he understands commands and
you know, both languages, and he's uh, I take him
everywhere with me, you know, because these dogs. They need
a lot of exercise and they're very athletic. Yeah, we
go every place. We go to people, you know, the
(26:08):
like the bank or even like you know, uh uh
sometimes dunkin Donuts. They don't mind you going in there.
They all give them a treat.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
So would you clone, you know, would you clone if
you if.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
It were I don't want to play guard and you know, like, uh,
it's it's like it would bring uh, it would give
me a sort of like a bad I guess bad
uh uh memory, you know, right right.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
And plus there is the general creepiness facts there factor Alex,
thank you so much. The time's going so quickly and
there and they're folks to talk to. Next is David
and San Francisco.
Speaker 9 (26:46):
Hi, David, Hey Bradley, did you hear from you?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Man?
Speaker 9 (26:51):
I've been listening to the last couple of nights and
it's such such a You're such a tree to listen to. Anyhow, Yeah,
I'll play a cat and all my life basically I
had a few dogs, but I mostly had cats, and
I would have every one of them cloned because they
were just so dear. But one pet I had when
I first came to San Francisco in nineteen seventy eight.
(27:14):
I got tarantula and I had it for about six
months and then a friend of my roommates came into
my room and he says, oh, can I put it
on my arm? I said, sure, and Church's arm and
the thing thall on the floor about two feet down
and it took it about two weeks to die because
of a real send bit of plumbing between the floorax
and the abdomen. And her name was Bobby Sue, and
(27:37):
I used to feed her crickets. She come over to
my hand in her cage and to take the cricket
out of my hand and have dinner.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And I recently become an insect. And I guess spiders
are not insects. They're are rechnids, right, But I don't
know the insects. That's beside the point. I'm into them
now that I've seen a lot of close up for timeography,
and they are there quite amazing.
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Anyhow. The reason I'm calling is I have a music
question for you.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Okay, quick, because really quick, oh.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Quickly, I'm going to name four four groups and I
want you to tell them what they have in common. Okay,
Grateful Dad eurythmics, pretenders, and traveling Wilbury they have in common.
None of them use the words are.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
All right, David, thank you, and you stay healthy. It's
just say forty four. Let me give you a little
more scoop on how this works. I've told you how
they get the egg out of the female one. Another
bad thing about this is it takes many females that
you have to use to get the eggs. So you
have to have this whole subculture of just dogs for parts,
(28:57):
right that they have to stay somewhere, and they farm
the eggs out of them. That's horrible. That's horrible, and
I'm surprised these celebrities would do this. Now, once you
get the egg and the original egg, the original cell
and the new one, they take the nucleus out of
(29:19):
one to put it in the other, and then they
actually zap it with electricity. They actually do, and that
fuses the two together. And it's somehow jump starts the
cell division process, which is particularly interesting because it might
give you some idea of how life started. There might
have just been the correct chemicals next to each other
(29:42):
and lightning hit them and cell division started. It's pretty simple.
Six seven, two. Would your clown clone your your pet?
I would not not at all. I'll tell you about
my pet very briefly right now, and then we'll get
(30:02):
to Wayne and Kingston.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
So we have.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Docsin's and not just not the big ones, the little ones.
I think it seems like their back's not so long
and they seem more durable. And Molly is a merle
colored kind of black and white, small and has these
interesting quirks. She's very time and you may find the
europe dog is very much the same, very time sensitive,
(30:30):
like it's time when it's time for breakfast. It is
time for breakfast when it's time. And the other thing
is she's a fanatic for the heating pad. She's ruled
by heat. She will go lay on the radiator and
then if you can put on the heating pad enough,
she'll come to the heating pad. But if the radiator
(30:51):
is still hotter than the heating pad, she won't come
to the heating pad. And then if the heating pad
goes off, she starts booping you and hitting your arm,
like come on, turn the heating pad on again, and
you have to wrestle her for the heating pad. And
then about the cutest thing is she knows when it's bedtime,
about nine o'clock, she'll start, she'll start to go into
(31:14):
the what is called the big bed. She'll she'll go
a couple of yards and look back like come on,
and she won't. And then if we make a move
towards the big bed, she'll run a little way and
look back like, are you sure you're coming or you're
just messing with me? And it's not until we fully
get up and march in there that she will get
up on the big bed. And oh, yes, four o'clock
(31:39):
every afternoon she knows it's time to go visit her
uncle Davy next door. And so around four o'clock it's,
you know, start nudging you, come on, come on, let's go. Well,
run around giving you the look. And then if you
say the name I want to see Davy. That's that's
the word. She knows more than anything else, Davy. She
(32:02):
jumps up, cocks her head and is raring to go.
Can't get the leshaw on quick enough. She's a sweetheart,
And we love those little routines. Now after this we're
gonna talk about a much bigger dog. Oh, by the way,
would I clone Molly. No way, no way, it wouldn't
be Mollie. And if I would definitely get another rescue,
(32:23):
if I were going to get another dog, because if
I clone Mollie, some poor dog in a shelter, a
kill shelter will be euthanized. And if I don't, I
save one. Down south of Tennessee. Down there they have
these puppy farms and once the dogs get too old,
they kill them. I don't understand. I don't understand why
(32:46):
it's legal. But you if you clone your dog instead
of doing that, I would be said Wayne Kingson's next
on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
news Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Would you clone your dog even if it were free?
Yes or no? So far the nose are edging out
the yeses. Let's go to Wayne and Kingston. It was
a great big dog. Hello, Hello Wayne, thanks for checking in.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Hey Bradley, how you doing. I'm gonna jump right into
that no category with all the other folks. Your your pet,
your dog is greater than the some total disparts. His
experiences growing up with you and your household. That's what
makes him who he is. Well, that story that you
told about Molly is is a cool story when you
(33:38):
think about it. Allie has a life spent with you
and Shannon, and then also with Jack and Daisy that
you had before they spent She spent time with those
two dogs too, so that's who she is. You could
never replace that.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
We mentioned Jack and Daisy. Gotta I gotta mentioned Gator
and Skyler two. I can't leave those guys out.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yeah, absolutely, I didn't even get a chance to even
get to them. But that's that's who Daisy is. And
Quinn my dog, now that I have Swiss Mountain dog,
he is his his his environment is what makes what
he is. And he was born from a large litter
of eleven puppies, so he has a lot of siblings
in that litter. And if you would have cloned him tomorrow,
(34:18):
that could never be repeated. It just couldn't happen. So
you know your dog, We had Zurich, a Swiss bound
dog before him, and he was a big part of
the life of our horse Paddington. You can't create that
environment anymore, so there's no way the cloning. The cloning
would produce the same pet. It's just it's the same
thing with a human you just couldn't do it again.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Plus it's just creepy.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
It is creepy, absolute he is creepys.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Wayne shows Quinn and it's pretty successful. You have a
recent show you went too.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
Yes, we were just actually at the dog show in Boxboro,
Massachusetts last weekend, and h we didn't win Best at Breed,
but we did get pretty close. We got it's called
best of Breed own are handled because that's a separate category,
so we got to look. We got an award for
that show, and then we'll be off to Springfield next weekend.
So we've got a few things going on on our
(35:14):
calendar here, so we're having a good time. We have
a lot of friends out there in the dog show world.
And what's what's nice about it is that people are
who do this breed quality dogs. They don't just do
puppy mill stuff. They hear all those sad stories about
because that's so they're so wrong with puppy mills. They
(35:37):
just irresponsibly breed dogs and they don't even realize by
what they're doing that they're actually breeding unhealthy animals going forward,
and like you said about all the rescues, that's a
that's a lot of book Gold to try to, you know,
to try to provide a home to a rescue dog.
But a lot of that is the result of people
who will irresponsibly breed because they're breeding dogs that have
(35:58):
diseases and cancer and all kinds of hip displays, your
shoulder problems and things like that, and that's how they
end up in these shelters.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, thank you so much for checking in and all
the best to you, know you and your family, including Quinn.
Speaker 8 (36:11):
Thank you all right, and you give them all your
path for me please.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Okay, we'll do that's Wayne, good guy. Okay, let's go
through what we learned and really see how we feel
about the cloning. I guess you can tell from my
the things I'm saying that I am completely against it
for a number of reasons. To recount those reasons, one,
(36:38):
it won't be the same dog, and you could have
got a rescue dog or if you need to, you know,
get a fancy dog for showing you could do that,
but it's not the way to go. But one reason
is that it takes many other dogs to do this procedure,
and those dogs are just kind of used for parts.
As I say, that part being he and I know
(37:04):
I mentioned it won't be the same dog. What about
the failures. There are a lot of them that don't
take And that's pretty sad. If this if that were
a human situation and you had a fetuses just not
making it, I mean that would that would be awful
the same thing it's I think it's an insult to
(37:27):
your dog to try to replace it. Every time you
look at this clone dog, you're going to say, oh,
you're gonna feel bad about the clone source your original dog.
And you know what, it's not free. It's fifty grand.
So say you're a rich person, and maybe you are.
(37:50):
You know what, please do something else with that fifty grand.
Imagine what fifty thousand dollars would do for a place
like Schultzer Guesthouse in Dedham. I've dealt with them and
for sixteen years they've been getting rescue dogs and fostering
(38:11):
them I guess you call it, and finding them homes.
They say, for over sixteen years, we've dedicated ourselves to
their will being, turning compassion into action, one tale at
a time. And I think we got one of our
dogs in there and another one and I'm glad I
have a little time for this quick story. There's a
place called New House Wildlife Rescue and we found a
(38:34):
little bit of goose in the road. It was going
to be killed. We took it there and they actually
reunited it with another goose family and it took and
everyone lived happily ever after. So spend your fifty grand
on that please. This is WBZ and I'll talk to
you well right after this
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