November 19, 2025 • 41 mins
Within the last week since the House Oversight Committee released the Jeffrey Epstein emails, more of Epstein’s dealings have come to light. Some emails revealed that Epstein made a sizable donation to former Harvard University president Larry Summers’ wife, Elisa New, a prominent Harvard poetry professor, which enabled her to expand her academic reach. According to the Boston Globe, this donation or “gift” did not appear in Harvard's 2020 report on Epstein donations to the university. We discussed the importance of this and more regarding the Epstein emails.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's nice time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you, Boston.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, here we go eleven o'clock hour. Thank you
very much, Dan Watkins. Here's the deal, Okay. I am
challenging every one of you, every one of you. I
don't care if you're a Trumper, if you're an anti trumper,
I want to hear from you. And if not, we
can move we can move on. But you got what
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you want in many respects. The Epstein files are gonna
come out now. If they come out with high redactions,
you know, big time redactions, or if they try to
use well, there's an investigation going on. We can't do
this whatever. I will be right there with you, okay.
But if they come out in their totality, if there
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are the names of some of the victims redacted, that's
that's perfectly fine with me. There are some victims, people
who are victims of these pedophiles, who want their names
to be known. You saw them with the news conferences yesterday.
But there are some who don't. So it's their choice.
It's their choice, and it now is. The burden is
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on the Attorney General Pam Bondy and on President Trump
to do this properly. If whatever your view of Donald
Trump is, if you are a Trump supporter and there's
information in there which implicates Donald Trump, I want to
know is, will you have the guts to say, hey,
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this is the straw that broke, that breaks the camel's
back for me, then there may be no criminality. Statutal
limitations might have run. I don't even want to speculate.
But if, on the other hand, there is implication of
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other people, well known people, will you lose interest? Will
you say, well, I'm only interested if it's Trump. Because
if you're telling me that you're only interested in this
story because it's Donald Trump, you're not a fair minded
person in my opinion. Okay, this is a huge story.
This is the This is the equivalent of the Me
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Too movement. I mean, arguably it is even worse than
Me Too. And I'll tell you why. We're dealing with
children here. We're dealing with teenagers. Okay, in the Me
Too movement, as bad as that was, whether it was
Harvey Weinstein using the casting crouch that we've heard of,
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this is these are kids. These are fourteen year olds.
God knows, they might be younger. I don't know. Okay,
and if it's true, these are very powerful UH politicians
who who who Epstein wanted to build bridges with, wanted
to build friendships with? UH and and and titans of industry. UH,
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President of Harvard. I mean, I I don't know what
Larry Summers might have done or might not have done.
I know that he has resigned today from the board
of Santanier. He apparently has taken a lead from teaching. UH.
He also has resigned for the board of an AI
group that he was on. All of those boards. By
the way, they pay good money. If you can become
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if you can become a board of director at a
major bank, that's good money. Trust me. Okay, not no
heavy lifting. No heavy lifting and good money. So let's
let's resume the calls. The only lines open right now
are six one. And if you want to call and
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you want to be heard and you want to express yourself,
feel free. Let me go next to Steven, Bill Rick
and Steve. Thanks for getting this go on this hour. Steve,
go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well me let me start off by saying, I tremendously
respected you Dan for decades.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
UH.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And this I'm a first time callers, So I get
my applause.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You gotta get you gotta you're got to get applause,
whether you still respect me or not. But thank you
very much.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Oh, I totally do. I completely do. And I think
you're kind of libberaling around the edges a little bit
because you're trying to set up people to say that obviously, uh,
if Trump's not implicated in any of this, then somebody
should say, well, you know, I apologize, you know, for
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trying to say that he did something wrong. Personally, I
think that he knew Epstein. He's already said that he
kicked him out of mar Lago when he thought that
his behavior was not proper yep And I really think
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he's playing the long game is probably the wrong word,
almost chess again. I think he's setting up the Democrats
because he realized he wasn't part of it, and that
he had friends, probably very close friends over the years
that that will be implicated. And maybe he tried to
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kick the can down the road a bit, but ultimately
he realized that that wasn't working. He's probably already called
his friends that are ultimately going to be uh, you know,
on the list. Yeah, exactly. And I think that he's
The Democrats are ultimately going to feel because they we
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all know that from what we've heard that a lot
of them to have a president of one of them.
I just I'm just shocked that people are so polarized
that they can't just step back and say, hey, if
he didn't do it, if Trump's on the list, let's
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let's break it out.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah. No, that's all. I'm trying to basically put people
in the position of being jurors. So if if you
or I were on a jury, uh and and and
we were you know that neither the prosecution of the
defense uh you know they accepted us uh and and
we're on the jury. We can't sit there and say,
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you know, this guy looks like a creep. I don't
like the way I don't like his attitude. I'm not
convinced he did this crime, but he must have done
something else. You can't do that. Now. I realized that politicians,
public figures don't enjoy the constitutional privilege or rights of
due process, and that you know, you can you can
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hate movie stars, you can hate professional athletes, even though
they might be wonderful people or whatever. I'm just saying
that on this do my does my audience have sufficient
integrity that if Trump is implicated and there's there's sufficient
evidence proof whatever, that he engaged in some of this,
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will the Trump supporters who listen to me, will they
have the courage and the guts to say, you know
what this is, this is beyond anything and he needs
to go. He's lost my support. And conversely, there are
people who just do not like Donald Trump anything about
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Right, And that's the Yeah, I think that's really the
main problem is that will you step up and apologize?
I really I'm a JFK Democrat, Like I voted for Trump,
but I voted the Bushes too. I Mean, I'm a
middle of the road kind of a guy. And I
really feel like what you're trying to do is draw
people out to say, hey, I'm willing to admit that
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if he's on there, we'll deal with it. But if
he's not on there, step up and say, guess what,
He's not the guy that they're trying to the mainstream
media is trying to make him out to me, and
I think you're doing an amazing job to try to
get people mainstream not Trump de rangement sent in some
people or people on the on the far you know,
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the far right, to let's just call a spade a spade.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I can't appeal is to appeal to people's senses of fairness. Okay,
I'm never going to read all those emails. There's what
twenty thousand emails. I don't have time to read my
own emails. But but that's but what I'm saying, you
get it. You get it, Steve, and I hope you
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call more frequently and.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And uh, well you're doing You're doing an amazing job.
We have a mutual friend, my friend Greg Are, who's
an IT guy for wb Z, and you know we've
always he's always talking amazing. You know, he always pumped
you up every time I talk to him. But I'm
a big fan. So see, Yeah, I love the fact
that you're just trying to be of the middle of the
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road guy, and you're doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah. Well, what I'm saying is I have never been
a fian of Donald Trump. At the same time, I
know that I am fair enough to say. You know,
I was watching some of the Democrats today who were
going after it and which was really appalling to me. Uh,
this video that they released that talked about people in
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the military veterans.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
That was terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well it was. It was I don't know what they're
trying to do is their hatred.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I'm a vet myself. I don't don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, no, I don't either. You know, you know, I served,
I did some time, you did some time. Uh. Some
of the people who were there who now members. I mean,
there was an astronaut Kelly from Arizona. There was an
army ranger, this guy from Jason Crow from Colorado, and
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it was like, wait a second, is what has Trump
done here? I realized that there were even some people
today who were calling in a question what he did
bombing Iran. I think what he did bombing Iran was
incredibly positive. Today. As a matter of fact, I listened
to an interview that CNN was doing with the one
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of the foreign ministers in Iran and they were saying,
we would like to again talk to the United States. So,
I mean, I think that that was a brilliant move.
He took a nuclear player off the world stage, a
nuclear player of a theocracy. What did anything agree?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
And also and he showed what was capable of yep,
you know in the bottom line is we need to
get back to that deliver of hope in the middle left,
not right, and and just find what you know. I think,
really what what JFK stood fall when he was president.
I want Abraham Lincoln. I want more enemies.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I want more Democrats like Jack Kennedy, and I want
more Republicans like Wan o'reagan.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I'm right back at you. Thanks Daniel for the best,
Thank you man.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Talk to you soon. Six thirty one line there, six one, seven,
nine thirty coming right back on the night side. Let's
keep it rolling here. I think I think Steve very
clearly stated what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to
make you think. I'm trying to make you look in
the mirror and say, okay, I there were people out
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there who were hoping Donald Trump is in the middle
of this, that there were pictures of him with a
thirteen year old If there are, you know, and then
then he's done. He's done. No will his Trump Will
Trump supporters be willing to say that, I hope. So if,
on the other hand, is nothing there, it's time for
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the Democrats to back off and say, you know what
we have. The question is is Donald Trump playing ropidope
with the Democrats. Any of you who are boxing fans
know exactly what I'm talking about. That's what Muhammad Ali
and before him, Cassius Clay did with Sunny Liston. He
played ropidope. Listen punched himself out and then and then
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Cassius Clay, soon to be Muhammad Ali won the fight,
won the fight. We're coming right back on Nightside joined
the conversation only one line six.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
It's night Side with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Back to the Callege we go. Let me go to
George in Westwood, Georgia. Were next on Nightside.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, Dan, you're a logical guy. I'm a
logical guy, okay, but somebody who suffers from TDS is
not logical. In addition, Dan, they are arrogant, so they were,
they will never admit that they were wrong, and logic
dictates this. Dand if Trump was implicated in the Epstein
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emails in a horrendous bad way, let's say, wouldn't it
have come out during the four years of the Biden DJ.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I think that's that's a reasonable that's a reasonable conclusion
and a reasonable question to ask.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yes, Well, he had four years in term one all right,
And he was a threat in twenty twenty and of
course they knew you would be a threat in twenty
twenty four, so they would to beheaded him the first
chance they got. They tried to shoot him, of course,
but that's another story.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well let me just let me just add one thing. Logically,
the kid that took the shot in Butler, Pennsylvania, there's
no evidence that he was any more than a lone wolf. Now.
I know that there's some stuff out on the Internet
which would suggest they might, but I've seen no evidence
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that this kid is anything other than a wackle. At first,
he liked Trump, then he didn't like Trump. The rally
happened to be in the near his hometown. Uh, and
he took an opportunity, and thank god, he was not successful.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
All Right, I cannot argue with you on that point,
but I will not say that is true one hundred percent.
Because the deep state works in mysterious ways. They find
an idiot like Thomas Crooks, and.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
They somehow, they somehow brainwash him in different ways, is
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yes, yes, he was a lone wolf. I'm not going
to argue with you on that, but they have ways
to put stuff in his head, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, but you and I can diverge on that. I
I understand what you're saying, but until I see some
evidence of it, I'm more interested to be really honest
with you. Uh and the guy down in Florida. Because
the guy down in Florida who never got a shot
off job. But did you notice George how frequently he traveled.
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He was in Ukraine, he was in Hawaii that I
want to know more about him. He's still alive. Okay,
Crooks is dead. So even if if Crooks knew something,
he can't he can't tell us that. But this guy
is still alive, and I gotta tell you. It takes
some money and takes some connections to get to Ukraine
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in the middle of war, and it takes some money
in connections.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
He was raising money then he was raising money for Ukraine,
so he had funds, he was raising money.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But the question is who is who is in? Who
is he support, who's he getting money from, What's who's
he being influenced by. I think Crooks is a kid
that's more likely than not sat in his room and
watched stuff on his computer and on the Internet. That's
my sense, and I've seen nothing to persuade me to
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the contrary. I'm open to it, but I haven't seen
anything yet. This guy, when I see he's traveling, he's
moving here, he's moving there. This dude's a little bit
more complicated than Thomas Crooks on the surface. That's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Okay, I just want to say something about Crooks. Okay,
I was watching it live. I was watching it live too,
And when you go back to the videos, Dan Yep,
behind the stage, you'll see I'm on the top left,
two shop shooters. Then they were staring at Crooks for
four whole minutes. Okay, there was something funny going on.
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They could have had the president off the stage until
they cleared the whole situation up. Okay, there were no drones.
There were no drones. Yeah, nothing, But those two shop
shooters were looking at Crooks for four minutes.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Okay, I did not see that. I watched the camera
on Donald Trump giving his speech, and then I saw
him react as if you know, he someone had flicked
him in the ear, and I saw him go down.
But anyway, let's let's let's finish up on tonight. George,
you will have it right on day.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
So my logic says the Biden d OJ would have
released everything implicating Trump. There is nothing there. Yeah, there's
pictures them potting together, maybe looking at a nice looking
girl together, you know, big deal. Okay, But most of
the pictures, Dan, Trump is with his new girlfriend Milania
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at that point. Okay, so it does.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I don't think he was with Milani in two thousand
and four. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
No, there's pictures with Epstein, and Trump is with Milania,
a very very young Millennia. He was, it was, it
was Marlow.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Fair enough, Okay. Well again, I'm not a chronicle or
of Donald Trump's marital fidelities or infidelities at all.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Okay, but yeah, Greek television, so I have to be
up to date on all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That's all I'm saying. All Right, George, thank you for
the you call. I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
You there, have a great night.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Good night. Let me go next to Joe and Lynn. Joe,
You're next, one night saga right ahead.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Hey, Dan, this is interesting. I know I'm coming up
to the news about crooks. I just want to say
there's other people that they say there was evidence that
should have been released, but who knows, we'll find it out.
They washed the place down and you know, the roof
and all that, who knows, we'll find out about that later.
On this charge, I think he should have released these
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files years ago or months ago when he said no, no,
and then the other guy who was at the head
of the FBI and bon Gino said there's nothing there.
If he's okay. If he's not, then but they should
not redact any of it unless the people want to
be redacted. They should let all the politicians names.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I'm with you. I'm with you, Joe. Any if there
is a young if there's a woman who was taking
advantage of when she was whatever, age fourteen.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Fifteen, sixteen, that's different.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
By by Epstein and Maxwell or whatever the hell. Her
first name is just Laine or whatever however you have
pronounced that, and that girls is now living, you know,
as a mom with a couple of kids and doesn't
want her name out there. Fine, that's okay, jacked her name.
But that's it, Judd. That's the only thing that should
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be that I would find, you know, acceptable as a redaction.
That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
One other thing I wanted to say we when we
went to school, and it was a boarding school, and
we had people that were lonely, and they were over
sixteen seventeen, and some of them had their satisfactions with people,
but that was up to them. Nobody forced them. You know,
if this should be out in the open, I think
I just don't like the fact that and I'm disappointed.
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I'm losing my trust in him because of all these
European involvements in Syria. But I don't know why he
held back and Bonin or held back. And now it's
coming out. I hope there's no more mysterious redacting redacting,
but we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, we'll watch. I'll give you my word, Joe, that
I will follow it. I'm not going to read twenty
thousand emails. I'm not gonna lie now. I don't have time.
I have all the time I do. All everything I
do during the day is working towards the night show.
That that night show. I'm not going to read the
twenty thousand emails. But I'll tell you something. I'll read
everything in the Times, I'll read everything in the Globe.
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I'll read everything, and wherever I can, I'll read the Atlantic.
I will read everything so there won't be someone else that.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
If it's did, that means something's going on. I think
I can agree anything.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
All right, Joe, thank you much. I gotta I got
you and didn't have to wait through the news. We
will take a quick break for the news at the
bottom of the hour. It's eleven thirty. My name's Dan Ray.
This is night Side. Here are the numbers. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three, one ten thirty.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Finally, finally, my callers are getting what I'm trying to
do here, and what I'm trying to do is make
you think whatever your opinion is of Donald Trump and
whatever you might be rooting for, whether you're rooting for
inculpatory information or you're rooting for him to be shown
to be purer than the than the driven snow what
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the what the facts will be will be? Will you
at that point be prepared to say, Okay, those are
the facts, or or will you dismiss the facts if
they do not endorse or support whatever your beliefs are.
We're coming back on Night's side. The only lines open
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right now are six one seven.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right back to the calls, We're going to go to
Bill in Danvers. Bill, you were next on Nightside. I
know you're a Trump supporter. You know what we're talking
about tonight, Go right ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yeah, and uh, I think the first caller hit the
nail on the head. And also like the previous call
is uh, you know, if they had anything, dare And
I'm not a Veton guy. I don't play the lottery.
I feel ninety nine percent confident that because, let's face it,
they raided the guy's house in Florida. They went through
Milania's underwear draw. If they had anything major, I mean
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they would have been salivating the drop. But I mean
they did everything else is a guy, I mean they you.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Know, in a few years, he had more indictments on
him than John Guardia had, you know what.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
I mean, he had fifty years with.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
The crime, you know. So, but I think when he
kind of got in he helped that. You gotta understand,
it's international concerns here. You know, we viewed as Americans
here and we know his name's been on the list.
Bill Clinton's number one, you know, But.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
In fairness, whoa whoa whoa hold just for a second, Okay,
We've got to be fair. Bill Clinton's name has been
bandied about. Uh. There are suggestions that Clinton might have
been on the so called Lolita Express, but I haven't
seen anything to prove that. And I'm also told that
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as a former president, UH, he has Secret Service protection
and therefore it would be impossible for him to lose
the Secret Service. And I suspect that some of those
Secret Service men and women, even though they're sworn to
defend the protectee in this case, Bill Clinton, some of
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them probably had different points of view towards Bill Clinton.
And I suspect that if any of them ever were
on a plane with Epstein and Bill Clinton to Lolita Island,
that that might have been leaked out as if you
know what I'm saying. That's all. I'm just I want
to see the place.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
The same stand I thought Polmer's committee recently is last week,
and I heard Pam Bondi talk about it that the
pages that have already been released there was the flight
logs were on there from that express, and Bill Clinton
was I mean, you can look that up, but I'm
almost certain about that, Dan, right, It's.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Almost certain doesn't work for me on this show. I
had a call the other night I just looked, just
hold on for a second. I had a call the
other night from one of my regular callers in San Antonio, Texas,
Daish uh and sometimes Daven I disagree, which is fine,
but he's a good caller. And he made a couple
of statements on it would have been I think it
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was Monday night, uh, that there had been a big
gun raid up here in Massachusetts. And we actually Monday
night was the night that that we had Reverend Peterson
on for a couple of hours, and so Dave said
that there was a gun raid up here and that
the uh the defense of like thousands of guns. That
I said, Gene, Dave.
Speaker 10 (25:28):
I'm really uh, I'm a little skeptical of that because
I follow this stuff fairly closely and if if that
was true, I probably would have known about it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
And to his credit, uh, he he insisted that night
that what he was that his son was uh somehow involved,
and that that or his nephew, and basically, you know,
he was convinced uh that uh, that that I was
wrong and that he was right. Uh. And I did
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get an email from him to his credit, in which
he admitted he said, I must have misheard that or whatever.
So matter of fact, I'm going to read it to you.
He said, Dan, this is Dave. I have to correct myself.
I shouldn't have made a mistake on the ear that
Ice just stopped the cartel there in Boston for drugs
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and drugs only. This is a transcriptive. I can't play
it for you. They probably didn't mention guns. But it
was my son in law that said the guns were
a problem in Dallas, Chicago and other cities. In Boston,
the guns weren't uncovered, blah blah blah. So I see
that as a as a quation, as an apology, and
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I give him credit for that.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
And one other thing too, is by you know, if
we'll say there was a lot of runggoing and Epstein
was a money guy for the Democrats time, and he
was a fundraiser and he traveled in those circles. You know,
if Trump had come in and said, well, you know
we got this, that we released it, and we'll say
the DJ was to do an arrest, you know he
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I mean, you know, you'd have all the protests out
there and everything. But by holding back, and you.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Have all these people with Trump arrangement syndrome. You look
at him, they were they were like fiends on the
House floor. They couldn't vote quick enough, and they're convinced
that they're finally going to get the Trump stuff. So
now moving forward, and just before the vote, he told
the Justice Department, if you have to investigate, you know,
if things really get crazy and they have to do something,
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he can say, hey, you guys all voted for it.
I mean it was unanimous, you know. And if there's
big Democrat donors that were involved and who knows what
was going on, then the chips go where they are.
You can't blame you can't call him mc king.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
So we will see. I just want people, whatever their
preconceived notion is, to be able to look themselves in
the mirror and say, hey, you know I was right,
I was wrong, and we need to move on. Now.
If if Trump is guilty of uh and it's there's
evidence there that that he engaged in the sort of
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activity that many people are convinced he engaged in, and
if that's there, then I think that a lot of
the Trump supporters are going to have to make an assessment.
I just want people to I want people to put
themselves in the position that jurors are in when when
you're when you're sitting as a jury in a criminal trial,
you don't look at the defendants and say, I don't
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like the way that guy looks. Let's convict him. You
got to say, did he or she commit the crime? Period?
Speaker 8 (28:44):
And and uh another thing to be honest with you,
you know, I think there's bigger things going on. And
you know, I mean if they CNN did I just
left the gym, you know, I'm looking at the TV.
If they didn't have the story, they'd have not do
you see what they're running? I mean, all these pitches
in Epstein, and they will show Epstein with Trump.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Even though he was with a lot of other guys.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
But you know it's uh, I mean, they'd be uh,
you know, they're not that their ratings are great now,
but I mean they may even be worth well.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
At the same time, I was watching CNN today and
there was their polster Harry I don't even know what
his last name. Mean. He's a very excitable guy, and
he was talking at making the point that on foreign
policy issues at this point in his second term, President
Trump has a much higher standing than any other president.
(29:33):
I want to be careful how I phrased this, that
any other president in this century. That was on CNN.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
Well your speech. I didn't see that, so well you
can see there, you can.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Look it up. Okay. Yeah, he was saying that his
plus or minus on foreign policy it was like thirty
seve or something or no. I guess his plus and
minus is plus three and Biden's was minus thirty seven.
So it was like Biden had no support on foreign
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policy and that Trump supported foreign foreign policy favorable unfavorable.
Is better than any other president at this point in
the second term amongst the presidents who served two terms,
Bush forty three, Obama, and now Trump.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
I'm hoping that it pays dividends because you know, he
has rounded up a lot of money and investment for
the country, and I want to see the shovels and
I want to see that at work here so that
you know, some people, you know, we can benefit and
keep things moving here. You know, he still has some
work to do here Dan at.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Home, no question, no question. I think he's had a
pretty good start, but he does have work to do.
There's no doubt about that. Thanks Belle, appreciate you calling.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
You know, yeah, take care by bite munch six one.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Seven, two, five, four ten thirty six, one seven, nine thirty.
I got John, I got Geo, and I got room
for you if you'd like to join the conversation. Are
you ready to deal with whatever the Epstein emails show
or what they don't show? That's my question. Can you
be a jura on this case? I think some of
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you would fail, couldn't be a jurer. But tell me
the truth? Tell me what is the is the truth
as you know it. We're back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Okay, who's up next? We got John and Boston John
next on NIGHTSIG, go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Thanks Dan. Do you want to remind people Dan that
Virginia Jeoffrey was one of the victims. She committed suicide,
that young woman that Will At the time, she was
a very young woman. Now she's dead because of all this,
a lot of this interaction and the borders were open,
all the sex crimes from the rapes or the rape
trees along the border. We had a young woman raged
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here in Rockland from illegal that came in, all the
child abuse, all the drug abuse because the open borders.
Well it was Donald Trump that closed the border within
just a couple of days. Now there is zero illegals
coming across and stopped the crime. But just stopped the
criminals were coming across. And just this past week, Dan,
there was a terrorists driving an eighteen wheeler. He was licensed.
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He came across during the Biden administration, across the border.
It was licensed driving eighteen wheeler and he's a known terrorists.
They so endangering the whole country. So now we're getting
off the topic Donald Trump again, like the hitting bombing
Iran Abarne was about maybe a month or two way
from getting a nuclear weapon, very possible. They could have
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been a nuclear war in the Middle East. And if
Donald Trump didn't on those nuclear plants in Iran and
calls on the border protecting our country from terrorist attacks.
And here they are talking about Jeffrey Fstein and Donald Trump.
But Jeffreyesstey was a high school teacher. What does Donald
Trump meet as a billionaire to to he could have
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had any woman in the world he wanted. I'm supposed
to believe he had to go to Epstein Island to
meet women to have a connection with Jeffrey Epstein. What
is Jeffrey Epstein got. He wasn't even college educated. I mean,
give me a break. This is so ridiculous. Yet all
this is is yellow journalism, sinsatialism, to draw attention away
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for what's happened the past forty five days, to draw
attention away all the good things Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Has done so we could be so John. My question
to you is, you're a Trump guy. I know that.
If there is actual evidence in the Epstein emails which
implicates Donald Trump, are you willing to reassess your position?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Dan? I don't condone anybody's criminal activity, whether it was
Dan Ray or Donald Trump. Dan, there's as much chance
as Donald Trump having something exposed him being Epstein nine
as Dan Ray. That's my personal belief. Dan, just knowing
people as who they are, by human nature, dealing with
human beings. There's as much chance to see a Donald
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Trump with a sixteen year old there as there is
Dan Ray. That's my personal opinion. And it's not a
Trump guy, it's Dan anybody. I don't care who it is.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
I don't care what.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I asked you. I asked you the question, you gave
me the answer. No problem, No problem, John. I appreciate
as always your your passion. And let's see what where
this leads. I'm wondering if Trump hasn't played ropidope with
the Democrats here.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yes, and they know what they look HAWKEM. Jeffries was
asking that steam for money back at twenty thirteen. I'm
surprised to see that far back. I'm like, he was
not a friend of Donald Trump's. Well he didn't, he look.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Like I don't. There's there's no suggestion that Hakim Jefferies. Look,
he's a politician, he's coming up and he knows that
this guy's a Democratic. Don't know, why wouldn't he ask
him for money?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
No, I'm one of my point is then that Epstein
was donating to Democrats. Yes, it was Democrats and Bill at.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Donald Trump was probably a Democrat at that time. As
you know, Donald Trump was a Democrat for a long time.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
I'm looking at the flight logs right now in the
FAA DAN you can see Bill Clinton's name on It's
this public record. It's not complicated. Bill Gates was there,
Many Democrats were there Why were there? Why did Epstein
have a picture of Bill Clinton in a blue dress,
Monica Lewinsky dress. You know, there's a lot of proper
we're supposed.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
To I have no I have no idea on that one.
You've opened up a can of wormsday that I don't
already want to climb into. John, let me run. I
want to get one more in and give him some time.
He's been holding on it a very long time as well.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Jesus from the Sex Slavery coming across the board again.
That's all you need to know, folks, Thank you, Thank.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
You, John. I have a great night. Let me go
to Geo. Geo. You're going to wrap it up for
his go ahead. Geo.
Speaker 11 (36:10):
John has a lot of facts, but John has no idea.
He hasn't the faintest clue, and most people don't. This
whole situation is a canard, and it's turned the actual
facts upside down. Epstein is a brilliant high IQ person.
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As a teenager, Bill Barr Attorney, Bill Bo's father taught
in the New School in New York City, and he
hired them at nineteen to tutor and teach math advance
math to the sons of diplomats at the UN, so
Epstein had an early acquaintance and knowledge of people in
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high places. And the connection to Donald Trump is Donald
Trump's lawyer Roy Cone. If you want to know if
Donald Trump had any association with UH women in that
particular way, Roy Cone was, of course in the McCarthy hearings.
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He was the fixer.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
This is what if? What if? My question is, my
question is kind of geo you have. You are a
font of information and most times I everything I listen
running out of time. Here's my question. I don't know
what your opinion of Donald Trump is, okay, and it's
none of my business. My question to you is if,
(37:43):
if you put yourself in the role of a juror
whatever the Epstein files show, if they implicate Donald Trump,
will you accept that if they if they do not
implicate Donald Trump, will you accept that. I don't know
what you think about Trump. I'm just asking a simple question.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
Yes, the files you would have to look at, and
not the Epstein files. They're the files of Roy Cohne's
along association as a contractor for the CIA and the FBI.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Roy Cone is not the issue tonight, Geo, Geo, why
are you what geo, geo. I know who Roy Cone is.
You know who Roy Cone is. Very few in our
audience know who Roy Cone is. Roy Cohne, big time
lawyer aid to Joe McCarthy in the nineteen fifties. Donald
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Trump knew Roy Cone later in his life. Okay, but
that's not and whether or not Roy Cohne helped Donald
Trump along the way or was it advisor, it doesn't
matter in terms of our conversation.
Speaker 11 (38:54):
Trumps term personal lawyer, and as his personal lawyer, he
was spying on him the same way Epstein was spying
on Summers by providing women.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Well, here's what you do when you get when you
can get a conversation. Why don't you give Roy kne call?
He's dead?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
But once you give him a call, Tomar, he's dead
of age. Dan.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I know that, I know that, I know that. I
don't need to throw that in there, neither do you.
What I'm saying is that's not what we're talking about tonight.
Maybe Donald Trump as a kid might have meant nicky
mantlet at Yankee Stadium. What the hell does that have
to do with the Epstein files?
Speaker 11 (39:37):
Uh, Geo Epstein files misdirection.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
So all the Democrats have put all their money on
the Epstein files. They should have talked to you. Gotta go,
Geo is always it's a challenging call. I appreciate your call.
We're done for the night. What are we doing on
time here? Rob? Give it to me quick, all right, folks.
I know it's it's difficult. I know it's difficult. But
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what I'm trying to do is run a talk show
and give you an opportunity to think. And so I
don't care what you think. I don't care if you
love Trump, if you despise Trump. You're my listeners. I
want you to think. I'll ask you We'll do a
different topic tomorrow night. We'll do different topics tomorrow night.
The response was not great, but it was adequate. Let
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me put it like that. Anyway. Done for the night,
Rob Brooks, thank you very much, Marita, Thank you much
to all the callers, including Gill. Thank you to those
of you didn't call. You disappoint me. I will be
on Night's side with Dan Ray in a couple of minutes.
All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's
why my fellow Charlie Ray is who passed fifteen years
(40:45):
ago in February. That's all your pets are who have passed.
They loved you and you love them, and I do
believe you'll see them again. Hope you see again tomorrow
Night on Nightside. Have a great Thursday. Everybody, Stay warm.
It's kind of chilly out there tonight. Stay warm. Hope
you're somewhere that's nice and warm. We'll see them morro
Night on the Radio.
It's nice time with Dan Ray. I'm telling you, Boston.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, here we go eleven o'clock hour. Thank you
very much, Dan Watkins. Here's the deal, Okay. I am
challenging every one of you, every one of you. I
don't care if you're a Trumper, if you're an anti trumper,
I want to hear from you. And if not, we
can move we can move on. But you got what
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you want in many respects. The Epstein files are gonna
come out now. If they come out with high redactions,
you know, big time redactions, or if they try to
use well, there's an investigation going on. We can't do
this whatever. I will be right there with you, okay.
But if they come out in their totality, if there
(00:49):
are the names of some of the victims redacted, that's
that's perfectly fine with me. There are some victims, people
who are victims of these pedophiles, who want their names
to be known. You saw them with the news conferences yesterday.
But there are some who don't. So it's their choice.
It's their choice, and it now is. The burden is
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on the Attorney General Pam Bondy and on President Trump
to do this properly. If whatever your view of Donald
Trump is, if you are a Trump supporter and there's
information in there which implicates Donald Trump, I want to
know is, will you have the guts to say, hey,
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this is the straw that broke, that breaks the camel's
back for me, then there may be no criminality. Statutal
limitations might have run. I don't even want to speculate.
But if, on the other hand, there is implication of
(02:01):
other people, well known people, will you lose interest? Will
you say, well, I'm only interested if it's Trump. Because
if you're telling me that you're only interested in this
story because it's Donald Trump, you're not a fair minded
person in my opinion. Okay, this is a huge story.
This is the This is the equivalent of the Me
(02:23):
Too movement. I mean, arguably it is even worse than
Me Too. And I'll tell you why. We're dealing with
children here. We're dealing with teenagers. Okay, in the Me
Too movement, as bad as that was, whether it was
Harvey Weinstein using the casting crouch that we've heard of,
(02:50):
this is these are kids. These are fourteen year olds.
God knows, they might be younger. I don't know. Okay,
and if it's true, these are very powerful UH politicians
who who who Epstein wanted to build bridges with, wanted
to build friendships with? UH and and and titans of industry. UH,
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President of Harvard. I mean, I I don't know what
Larry Summers might have done or might not have done.
I know that he has resigned today from the board
of Santanier. He apparently has taken a lead from teaching. UH.
He also has resigned for the board of an AI
group that he was on. All of those boards. By
the way, they pay good money. If you can become
(03:40):
if you can become a board of director at a
major bank, that's good money. Trust me. Okay, not no
heavy lifting. No heavy lifting and good money. So let's
let's resume the calls. The only lines open right now
are six one. And if you want to call and
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you want to be heard and you want to express yourself,
feel free. Let me go next to Steven, Bill Rick
and Steve. Thanks for getting this go on this hour. Steve,
go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well me let me start off by saying, I tremendously
respected you Dan for decades.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
UH.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And this I'm a first time callers, So I get
my applause.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You gotta get you gotta you're got to get applause,
whether you still respect me or not. But thank you
very much.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Oh, I totally do. I completely do. And I think
you're kind of libberaling around the edges a little bit
because you're trying to set up people to say that obviously, uh,
if Trump's not implicated in any of this, then somebody
should say, well, you know, I apologize, you know, for
(04:51):
trying to say that he did something wrong. Personally, I
think that he knew Epstein. He's already said that he
kicked him out of mar Lago when he thought that
his behavior was not proper yep And I really think
(05:14):
he's playing the long game is probably the wrong word,
almost chess again. I think he's setting up the Democrats
because he realized he wasn't part of it, and that
he had friends, probably very close friends over the years
that that will be implicated. And maybe he tried to
(05:36):
kick the can down the road a bit, but ultimately
he realized that that wasn't working. He's probably already called
his friends that are ultimately going to be uh, you know,
on the list. Yeah, exactly. And I think that he's
The Democrats are ultimately going to feel because they we
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all know that from what we've heard that a lot
of them to have a president of one of them.
I just I'm just shocked that people are so polarized
that they can't just step back and say, hey, if
he didn't do it, if Trump's on the list, let's
(06:18):
let's break it out.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah. No, that's all. I'm trying to basically put people
in the position of being jurors. So if if you
or I were on a jury, uh and and and
we were you know that neither the prosecution of the
defense uh you know they accepted us uh and and
we're on the jury. We can't sit there and say,
(06:41):
you know, this guy looks like a creep. I don't
like the way I don't like his attitude. I'm not
convinced he did this crime, but he must have done
something else. You can't do that. Now. I realized that politicians,
public figures don't enjoy the constitutional privilege or rights of
due process, and that you know, you can you can
(07:05):
hate movie stars, you can hate professional athletes, even though
they might be wonderful people or whatever. I'm just saying
that on this do my does my audience have sufficient
integrity that if Trump is implicated and there's there's sufficient
evidence proof whatever, that he engaged in some of this,
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will the Trump supporters who listen to me, will they
have the courage and the guts to say, you know
what this is, this is beyond anything and he needs
to go. He's lost my support. And conversely, there are
people who just do not like Donald Trump anything about
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Right, And that's the Yeah, I think that's really the
main problem is that will you step up and apologize?
I really I'm a JFK Democrat, Like I voted for Trump,
but I voted the Bushes too. I Mean, I'm a
middle of the road kind of a guy. And I
really feel like what you're trying to do is draw
people out to say, hey, I'm willing to admit that
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if he's on there, we'll deal with it. But if
he's not on there, step up and say, guess what,
He's not the guy that they're trying to the mainstream
media is trying to make him out to me, and
I think you're doing an amazing job to try to
get people mainstream not Trump de rangement sent in some
people or people on the on the far you know,
(08:29):
the far right, to let's just call a spade a spade.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I can't appeal is to appeal to people's senses of fairness. Okay,
I'm never going to read all those emails. There's what
twenty thousand emails. I don't have time to read my
own emails. But but that's but what I'm saying, you
get it. You get it, Steve, and I hope you
(08:54):
call more frequently and.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And uh, well you're doing You're doing an amazing job.
We have a mutual friend, my friend Greg Are, who's
an IT guy for wb Z, and you know we've
always he's always talking amazing. You know, he always pumped
you up every time I talk to him. But I'm
a big fan. So see, Yeah, I love the fact
that you're just trying to be of the middle of the
(09:17):
road guy, and you're doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah. Well, what I'm saying is I have never been
a fian of Donald Trump. At the same time, I
know that I am fair enough to say. You know,
I was watching some of the Democrats today who were
going after it and which was really appalling to me. Uh,
this video that they released that talked about people in
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the military veterans.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
That was terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well it was. It was I don't know what they're
trying to do is their hatred.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I'm a vet myself. I don't don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, no, I don't either. You know, you know, I served,
I did some time, you did some time. Uh. Some
of the people who were there who now members. I mean,
there was an astronaut Kelly from Arizona. There was an
army ranger, this guy from Jason Crow from Colorado, and
(10:11):
it was like, wait a second, is what has Trump
done here? I realized that there were even some people
today who were calling in a question what he did
bombing Iran. I think what he did bombing Iran was
incredibly positive. Today. As a matter of fact, I listened
to an interview that CNN was doing with the one
(10:32):
of the foreign ministers in Iran and they were saying,
we would like to again talk to the United States. So,
I mean, I think that that was a brilliant move.
He took a nuclear player off the world stage, a
nuclear player of a theocracy. What did anything agree?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
And also and he showed what was capable of yep,
you know in the bottom line is we need to
get back to that deliver of hope in the middle left,
not right, and and just find what you know. I think,
really what what JFK stood fall when he was president.
I want Abraham Lincoln. I want more enemies.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I want more Democrats like Jack Kennedy, and I want
more Republicans like Wan o'reagan.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I'm right back at you. Thanks Daniel for the best,
Thank you man.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Talk to you soon. Six thirty one line there, six one, seven,
nine thirty coming right back on the night side. Let's
keep it rolling here. I think I think Steve very
clearly stated what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to
make you think. I'm trying to make you look in
the mirror and say, okay, I there were people out
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there who were hoping Donald Trump is in the middle
of this, that there were pictures of him with a
thirteen year old If there are, you know, and then
then he's done. He's done. No will his Trump Will
Trump supporters be willing to say that, I hope. So if,
on the other hand, is nothing there, it's time for
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the Democrats to back off and say, you know what
we have. The question is is Donald Trump playing ropidope
with the Democrats. Any of you who are boxing fans
know exactly what I'm talking about. That's what Muhammad Ali
and before him, Cassius Clay did with Sunny Liston. He
played ropidope. Listen punched himself out and then and then
(12:26):
Cassius Clay, soon to be Muhammad Ali won the fight,
won the fight. We're coming right back on Nightside joined
the conversation only one line six.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
It's night Side with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Back to the Callege we go. Let me go to
George in Westwood, Georgia. Were next on Nightside.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, Dan, you're a logical guy. I'm a
logical guy, okay, but somebody who suffers from TDS is
not logical. In addition, Dan, they are arrogant, so they were,
they will never admit that they were wrong, and logic
dictates this. Dand if Trump was implicated in the Epstein
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emails in a horrendous bad way, let's say, wouldn't it
have come out during the four years of the Biden DJ.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I think that's that's a reasonable that's a reasonable conclusion
and a reasonable question to ask.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yes, Well, he had four years in term one all right,
And he was a threat in twenty twenty and of
course they knew you would be a threat in twenty
twenty four, so they would to beheaded him the first
chance they got. They tried to shoot him, of course,
but that's another story.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well let me just let me just add one thing. Logically,
the kid that took the shot in Butler, Pennsylvania, there's
no evidence that he was any more than a lone wolf. Now.
I know that there's some stuff out on the Internet
which would suggest they might, but I've seen no evidence
(14:09):
that this kid is anything other than a wackle. At first,
he liked Trump, then he didn't like Trump. The rally
happened to be in the near his hometown. Uh, and
he took an opportunity, and thank god, he was not successful.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
All Right, I cannot argue with you on that point,
but I will not say that is true one hundred percent.
Because the deep state works in mysterious ways. They find
an idiot like Thomas Crooks, and.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
They somehow, they somehow brainwash him in different ways, is
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yes, yes, he was a lone wolf. I'm not going
to argue with you on that, but they have ways
to put stuff in his head, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, but you and I can diverge on that. I
I understand what you're saying, but until I see some
evidence of it, I'm more interested to be really honest
with you. Uh and the guy down in Florida. Because
the guy down in Florida who never got a shot
off job. But did you notice George how frequently he traveled.
(15:22):
He was in Ukraine, he was in Hawaii that I
want to know more about him. He's still alive. Okay,
Crooks is dead. So even if if Crooks knew something,
he can't he can't tell us that. But this guy
is still alive, and I gotta tell you. It takes
some money and takes some connections to get to Ukraine
(15:45):
in the middle of war, and it takes some money
in connections.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
He was raising money then he was raising money for Ukraine,
so he had funds, he was raising money.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But the question is who is who is in? Who
is he support, who's he getting money from, What's who's
he being influenced by. I think Crooks is a kid
that's more likely than not sat in his room and
watched stuff on his computer and on the Internet. That's
my sense, and I've seen nothing to persuade me to
(16:15):
the contrary. I'm open to it, but I haven't seen
anything yet. This guy, when I see he's traveling, he's
moving here, he's moving there. This dude's a little bit
more complicated than Thomas Crooks on the surface. That's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Okay, I just want to say something about Crooks. Okay,
I was watching it live. I was watching it live too,
And when you go back to the videos, Dan Yep,
behind the stage, you'll see I'm on the top left,
two shop shooters. Then they were staring at Crooks for
four whole minutes. Okay, there was something funny going on.
(16:51):
They could have had the president off the stage until
they cleared the whole situation up. Okay, there were no drones.
There were no drones. Yeah, nothing, But those two shop
shooters were looking at Crooks for four minutes.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Okay, I did not see that. I watched the camera
on Donald Trump giving his speech, and then I saw
him react as if you know, he someone had flicked
him in the ear, and I saw him go down.
But anyway, let's let's let's finish up on tonight. George,
you will have it right on day.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
So my logic says the Biden d OJ would have
released everything implicating Trump. There is nothing there. Yeah, there's
pictures them potting together, maybe looking at a nice looking
girl together, you know, big deal. Okay, But most of
the pictures, Dan, Trump is with his new girlfriend Milania
(17:45):
at that point. Okay, so it does.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I don't think he was with Milani in two thousand
and four. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
No, there's pictures with Epstein, and Trump is with Milania,
a very very young Millennia. He was, it was, it
was Marlow.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Fair enough, Okay. Well again, I'm not a chronicle or
of Donald Trump's marital fidelities or infidelities at all.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Okay, but yeah, Greek television, so I have to be
up to date on all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That's all I'm saying. All Right, George, thank you for
the you call. I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
You there, have a great night.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Good night. Let me go next to Joe and Lynn. Joe,
You're next, one night saga right ahead.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Hey, Dan, this is interesting. I know I'm coming up
to the news about crooks. I just want to say
there's other people that they say there was evidence that
should have been released, but who knows, we'll find it out.
They washed the place down and you know, the roof
and all that, who knows, we'll find out about that later.
On this charge, I think he should have released these
(18:50):
files years ago or months ago when he said no, no,
and then the other guy who was at the head
of the FBI and bon Gino said there's nothing there.
If he's okay. If he's not, then but they should
not redact any of it unless the people want to
be redacted. They should let all the politicians names.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I'm with you. I'm with you, Joe. Any if there
is a young if there's a woman who was taking
advantage of when she was whatever, age fourteen.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Fifteen, sixteen, that's different.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
By by Epstein and Maxwell or whatever the hell. Her
first name is just Laine or whatever however you have
pronounced that, and that girls is now living, you know,
as a mom with a couple of kids and doesn't
want her name out there. Fine, that's okay, jacked her name.
But that's it, Judd. That's the only thing that should
(19:46):
be that I would find, you know, acceptable as a redaction.
That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
One other thing I wanted to say we when we
went to school, and it was a boarding school, and
we had people that were lonely, and they were over
sixteen seventeen, and some of them had their satisfactions with people,
but that was up to them. Nobody forced them. You know,
if this should be out in the open, I think
I just don't like the fact that and I'm disappointed.
(20:14):
I'm losing my trust in him because of all these
European involvements in Syria. But I don't know why he
held back and Bonin or held back. And now it's
coming out. I hope there's no more mysterious redacting redacting,
but we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, we'll watch. I'll give you my word, Joe, that
I will follow it. I'm not going to read twenty
thousand emails. I'm not gonna lie now. I don't have time.
I have all the time I do. All everything I
do during the day is working towards the night show.
That that night show. I'm not going to read the
twenty thousand emails. But I'll tell you something. I'll read
everything in the Times, I'll read everything in the Globe.
(20:50):
I'll read everything, and wherever I can, I'll read the Atlantic.
I will read everything so there won't be someone else that.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
If it's did, that means something's going on. I think
I can agree anything.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
All right, Joe, thank you much. I gotta I got
you and didn't have to wait through the news. We
will take a quick break for the news at the
bottom of the hour. It's eleven thirty. My name's Dan Ray.
This is night Side. Here are the numbers. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three, one ten thirty.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Finally, finally, my callers are getting what I'm trying to
do here, and what I'm trying to do is make
you think whatever your opinion is of Donald Trump and
whatever you might be rooting for, whether you're rooting for
inculpatory information or you're rooting for him to be shown
to be purer than the than the driven snow what
(21:44):
the what the facts will be will be? Will you
at that point be prepared to say, Okay, those are
the facts, or or will you dismiss the facts if
they do not endorse or support whatever your beliefs are.
We're coming back on Night's side. The only lines open
(22:07):
right now are six one seven.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Dan Ray Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right back to the calls, We're going to go to
Bill in Danvers. Bill, you were next on Nightside. I
know you're a Trump supporter. You know what we're talking
about tonight, Go right ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yeah, and uh, I think the first caller hit the
nail on the head. And also like the previous call
is uh, you know, if they had anything, dare And
I'm not a Veton guy. I don't play the lottery.
I feel ninety nine percent confident that because, let's face it,
they raided the guy's house in Florida. They went through
Milania's underwear draw. If they had anything major, I mean
(22:51):
they would have been salivating the drop. But I mean
they did everything else is a guy, I mean they you.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Know, in a few years, he had more indictments on
him than John Guardia had, you know what.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
I mean, he had fifty years with.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
The crime, you know. So, but I think when he
kind of got in he helped that. You gotta understand,
it's international concerns here. You know, we viewed as Americans
here and we know his name's been on the list.
Bill Clinton's number one, you know, But.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
In fairness, whoa whoa whoa hold just for a second, Okay,
We've got to be fair. Bill Clinton's name has been
bandied about. Uh. There are suggestions that Clinton might have
been on the so called Lolita Express, but I haven't
seen anything to prove that. And I'm also told that
(23:46):
as a former president, UH, he has Secret Service protection
and therefore it would be impossible for him to lose
the Secret Service. And I suspect that some of those
Secret Service men and women, even though they're sworn to
defend the protectee in this case, Bill Clinton, some of
(24:09):
them probably had different points of view towards Bill Clinton.
And I suspect that if any of them ever were
on a plane with Epstein and Bill Clinton to Lolita Island,
that that might have been leaked out as if you
know what I'm saying. That's all. I'm just I want
to see the place.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
The same stand I thought Polmer's committee recently is last week,
and I heard Pam Bondi talk about it that the
pages that have already been released there was the flight
logs were on there from that express, and Bill Clinton
was I mean, you can look that up, but I'm
almost certain about that, Dan, right, It's.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Almost certain doesn't work for me on this show. I
had a call the other night I just looked, just
hold on for a second. I had a call the
other night from one of my regular callers in San Antonio, Texas,
Daish uh and sometimes Daven I disagree, which is fine,
but he's a good caller. And he made a couple
of statements on it would have been I think it
(25:08):
was Monday night, uh, that there had been a big
gun raid up here in Massachusetts. And we actually Monday
night was the night that that we had Reverend Peterson
on for a couple of hours, and so Dave said
that there was a gun raid up here and that
the uh the defense of like thousands of guns. That
I said, Gene, Dave.
Speaker 10 (25:28):
I'm really uh, I'm a little skeptical of that because
I follow this stuff fairly closely and if if that
was true, I probably would have known about it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
And to his credit, uh, he he insisted that night
that what he was that his son was uh somehow involved,
and that that or his nephew, and basically, you know,
he was convinced uh that uh, that that I was
wrong and that he was right. Uh. And I did
(26:03):
get an email from him to his credit, in which
he admitted he said, I must have misheard that or whatever.
So matter of fact, I'm going to read it to you.
He said, Dan, this is Dave. I have to correct myself.
I shouldn't have made a mistake on the ear that
Ice just stopped the cartel there in Boston for drugs
(26:26):
and drugs only. This is a transcriptive. I can't play
it for you. They probably didn't mention guns. But it
was my son in law that said the guns were
a problem in Dallas, Chicago and other cities. In Boston,
the guns weren't uncovered, blah blah blah. So I see
that as a as a quation, as an apology, and
(26:48):
I give him credit for that.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
And one other thing too, is by you know, if
we'll say there was a lot of runggoing and Epstein
was a money guy for the Democrats time, and he
was a fundraiser and he traveled in those circles. You know,
if Trump had come in and said, well, you know
we got this, that we released it, and we'll say
the DJ was to do an arrest, you know he
(27:13):
I mean, you know, you'd have all the protests out
there and everything. But by holding back, and you.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Have all these people with Trump arrangement syndrome. You look
at him, they were they were like fiends on the
House floor. They couldn't vote quick enough, and they're convinced
that they're finally going to get the Trump stuff. So
now moving forward, and just before the vote, he told
the Justice Department, if you have to investigate, you know,
if things really get crazy and they have to do something,
(27:37):
he can say, hey, you guys all voted for it.
I mean it was unanimous, you know. And if there's
big Democrat donors that were involved and who knows what
was going on, then the chips go where they are.
You can't blame you can't call him mc king.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
So we will see. I just want people, whatever their
preconceived notion is, to be able to look themselves in
the mirror and say, hey, you know I was right,
I was wrong, and we need to move on. Now.
If if Trump is guilty of uh and it's there's
evidence there that that he engaged in the sort of
(28:15):
activity that many people are convinced he engaged in, and
if that's there, then I think that a lot of
the Trump supporters are going to have to make an assessment.
I just want people to I want people to put
themselves in the position that jurors are in when when
you're when you're sitting as a jury in a criminal trial,
you don't look at the defendants and say, I don't
(28:36):
like the way that guy looks. Let's convict him. You
got to say, did he or she commit the crime? Period?
Speaker 8 (28:44):
And and uh another thing to be honest with you,
you know, I think there's bigger things going on. And
you know, I mean if they CNN did I just
left the gym, you know, I'm looking at the TV.
If they didn't have the story, they'd have not do
you see what they're running? I mean, all these pitches
in Epstein, and they will show Epstein with Trump.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Even though he was with a lot of other guys.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
But you know it's uh, I mean, they'd be uh,
you know, they're not that their ratings are great now,
but I mean they may even be worth well.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
At the same time, I was watching CNN today and
there was their polster Harry I don't even know what
his last name. Mean. He's a very excitable guy, and
he was talking at making the point that on foreign
policy issues at this point in his second term, President
Trump has a much higher standing than any other president.
(29:33):
I want to be careful how I phrased this, that
any other president in this century. That was on CNN.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
Well your speech. I didn't see that, so well you
can see there, you can.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Look it up. Okay. Yeah, he was saying that his
plus or minus on foreign policy it was like thirty
seve or something or no. I guess his plus and
minus is plus three and Biden's was minus thirty seven.
So it was like Biden had no support on foreign
(30:12):
policy and that Trump supported foreign foreign policy favorable unfavorable.
Is better than any other president at this point in
the second term amongst the presidents who served two terms,
Bush forty three, Obama, and now Trump.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
I'm hoping that it pays dividends because you know, he
has rounded up a lot of money and investment for
the country, and I want to see the shovels and
I want to see that at work here so that
you know, some people, you know, we can benefit and
keep things moving here. You know, he still has some
work to do here Dan at.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Home, no question, no question. I think he's had a
pretty good start, but he does have work to do.
There's no doubt about that. Thanks Belle, appreciate you calling.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
You know, yeah, take care by bite munch six one.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Seven, two, five, four ten thirty six, one seven, nine thirty.
I got John, I got Geo, and I got room
for you if you'd like to join the conversation. Are
you ready to deal with whatever the Epstein emails show
or what they don't show? That's my question. Can you
be a jura on this case? I think some of
(31:24):
you would fail, couldn't be a jurer. But tell me
the truth? Tell me what is the is the truth
as you know it. We're back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Okay, who's up next? We got John and Boston John
next on NIGHTSIG, go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Thanks Dan. Do you want to remind people Dan that
Virginia Jeoffrey was one of the victims. She committed suicide,
that young woman that Will At the time, she was
a very young woman. Now she's dead because of all this,
a lot of this interaction and the borders were open,
all the sex crimes from the rapes or the rape
trees along the border. We had a young woman raged
(32:09):
here in Rockland from illegal that came in, all the
child abuse, all the drug abuse because the open borders.
Well it was Donald Trump that closed the border within
just a couple of days. Now there is zero illegals
coming across and stopped the crime. But just stopped the
criminals were coming across. And just this past week, Dan,
there was a terrorists driving an eighteen wheeler. He was licensed.
(32:34):
He came across during the Biden administration, across the border.
It was licensed driving eighteen wheeler and he's a known terrorists.
They so endangering the whole country. So now we're getting
off the topic Donald Trump again, like the hitting bombing
Iran Abarne was about maybe a month or two way
from getting a nuclear weapon, very possible. They could have
(32:56):
been a nuclear war in the Middle East. And if
Donald Trump didn't on those nuclear plants in Iran and
calls on the border protecting our country from terrorist attacks.
And here they are talking about Jeffrey Fstein and Donald Trump.
But Jeffreyesstey was a high school teacher. What does Donald
Trump meet as a billionaire to to he could have
(33:17):
had any woman in the world he wanted. I'm supposed
to believe he had to go to Epstein Island to
meet women to have a connection with Jeffrey Epstein. What
is Jeffrey Epstein got. He wasn't even college educated. I mean,
give me a break. This is so ridiculous. Yet all
this is is yellow journalism, sinsatialism, to draw attention away
(33:38):
for what's happened the past forty five days, to draw
attention away all the good things Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Has done so we could be so John. My question
to you is, you're a Trump guy. I know that.
If there is actual evidence in the Epstein emails which
implicates Donald Trump, are you willing to reassess your position?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Dan? I don't condone anybody's criminal activity, whether it was
Dan Ray or Donald Trump. Dan, there's as much chance
as Donald Trump having something exposed him being Epstein nine
as Dan Ray. That's my personal belief. Dan, just knowing
people as who they are, by human nature, dealing with
human beings. There's as much chance to see a Donald
(34:21):
Trump with a sixteen year old there as there is
Dan Ray. That's my personal opinion. And it's not a
Trump guy, it's Dan anybody. I don't care who it is.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
I don't care what.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I asked you. I asked you the question, you gave
me the answer. No problem, No problem, John. I appreciate
as always your your passion. And let's see what where
this leads. I'm wondering if Trump hasn't played ropidope with
the Democrats here.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yes, and they know what they look HAWKEM. Jeffries was
asking that steam for money back at twenty thirteen. I'm
surprised to see that far back. I'm like, he was
not a friend of Donald Trump's. Well he didn't, he look.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Like I don't. There's there's no suggestion that Hakim Jefferies. Look,
he's a politician, he's coming up and he knows that
this guy's a Democratic. Don't know, why wouldn't he ask
him for money?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
No, I'm one of my point is then that Epstein
was donating to Democrats. Yes, it was Democrats and Bill at.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Donald Trump was probably a Democrat at that time. As
you know, Donald Trump was a Democrat for a long time.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
I'm looking at the flight logs right now in the
FAA DAN you can see Bill Clinton's name on It's
this public record. It's not complicated. Bill Gates was there,
Many Democrats were there Why were there? Why did Epstein
have a picture of Bill Clinton in a blue dress,
Monica Lewinsky dress. You know, there's a lot of proper
we're supposed.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
To I have no I have no idea on that one.
You've opened up a can of wormsday that I don't
already want to climb into. John, let me run. I
want to get one more in and give him some time.
He's been holding on it a very long time as well.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Jesus from the Sex Slavery coming across the board again.
That's all you need to know, folks, Thank you, Thank.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
You, John. I have a great night. Let me go
to Geo. Geo. You're going to wrap it up for
his go ahead. Geo.
Speaker 11 (36:10):
John has a lot of facts, but John has no idea.
He hasn't the faintest clue, and most people don't. This
whole situation is a canard, and it's turned the actual
facts upside down. Epstein is a brilliant high IQ person.
(36:32):
As a teenager, Bill Barr Attorney, Bill Bo's father taught
in the New School in New York City, and he
hired them at nineteen to tutor and teach math advance
math to the sons of diplomats at the UN, so
Epstein had an early acquaintance and knowledge of people in
(36:55):
high places. And the connection to Donald Trump is Donald
Trump's lawyer Roy Cone. If you want to know if
Donald Trump had any association with UH women in that
particular way, Roy Cone was, of course in the McCarthy hearings.
(37:19):
He was the fixer.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
This is what if? What if? My question is, my
question is kind of geo you have. You are a
font of information and most times I everything I listen
running out of time. Here's my question. I don't know
what your opinion of Donald Trump is, okay, and it's
none of my business. My question to you is if,
(37:43):
if you put yourself in the role of a juror
whatever the Epstein files show, if they implicate Donald Trump,
will you accept that if they if they do not
implicate Donald Trump, will you accept that. I don't know
what you think about Trump. I'm just asking a simple question.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
Yes, the files you would have to look at, and
not the Epstein files. They're the files of Roy Cohne's
along association as a contractor for the CIA and the FBI.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Roy Cone is not the issue tonight, Geo, Geo, why
are you what geo, geo. I know who Roy Cone is.
You know who Roy Cone is. Very few in our
audience know who Roy Cone is. Roy Cohne, big time
lawyer aid to Joe McCarthy in the nineteen fifties. Donald
(38:40):
Trump knew Roy Cone later in his life. Okay, but
that's not and whether or not Roy Cohne helped Donald
Trump along the way or was it advisor, it doesn't
matter in terms of our conversation.
Speaker 11 (38:54):
Trumps term personal lawyer, and as his personal lawyer, he
was spying on him the same way Epstein was spying
on Summers by providing women.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Well, here's what you do when you get when you
can get a conversation. Why don't you give Roy kne call?
He's dead?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
But once you give him a call, Tomar, he's dead
of age. Dan.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I know that, I know that, I know that. I
don't need to throw that in there, neither do you.
What I'm saying is that's not what we're talking about tonight.
Maybe Donald Trump as a kid might have meant nicky
mantlet at Yankee Stadium. What the hell does that have
to do with the Epstein files?
Speaker 11 (39:37):
Uh, Geo Epstein files misdirection.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
So all the Democrats have put all their money on
the Epstein files. They should have talked to you. Gotta go,
Geo is always it's a challenging call. I appreciate your call.
We're done for the night. What are we doing on
time here? Rob? Give it to me quick, all right, folks.
I know it's it's difficult. I know it's difficult. But
(40:03):
what I'm trying to do is run a talk show
and give you an opportunity to think. And so I
don't care what you think. I don't care if you
love Trump, if you despise Trump. You're my listeners. I
want you to think. I'll ask you We'll do a
different topic tomorrow night. We'll do different topics tomorrow night.
The response was not great, but it was adequate. Let
(40:24):
me put it like that. Anyway. Done for the night,
Rob Brooks, thank you very much, Marita, Thank you much
to all the callers, including Gill. Thank you to those
of you didn't call. You disappoint me. I will be
on Night's side with Dan Ray in a couple of minutes.
All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's
why my fellow Charlie Ray is who passed fifteen years
(40:45):
ago in February. That's all your pets are who have passed.
They loved you and you love them, and I do
believe you'll see them again. Hope you see again tomorrow
Night on Nightside. Have a great Thursday. Everybody, Stay warm.
It's kind of chilly out there tonight. Stay warm. Hope
you're somewhere that's nice and warm. We'll see them morro
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