November 17, 2025 • 40 mins
President Trump has done a 180, now calling for Congress to vote to release the Epstein files. What has changed in Trump’s mind? Do you think Trump is in anyway implicated by the files? The House is expected to vote on Tuesday, Nov. 18th on legislation to force the Department of Justice to release more files. What's so important about releasing these files?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's night with Dan Ray.
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hosted around two am this morning. Now, I want to
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talk about an interesting twist in the Epstein email story.
It's beginning to come into focus for me. But everyone
seems to be stunned that President Trump has reversed himself.
The New York Times article today by Ashley On published
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updated today this afternoon, President Trump says House Republicans should
vote to release Epstein Epstein files. President Trump reversed himself
as he faced the prospect of dozens of Republicans could
vote this week to compel his administration to release files
related to Jeffrey Epstein. Look, I got to believe at
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this point that Donald Trump has a pretty good idea
of what's in the Jeffrey Epstein files. I'll tell you
who does have a good idea what's in thee the
Epstein files is former heart Verard president Larry Summers. Here's
an article today in which the former Treasury secretary and
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president of Harvard said he was stepping back from all
public commitments, a mid fallout from the release of emails
between him and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
This is.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
A statement that he released. It's an interesting statement. Former
Treasury Secretary Larry Summer said Monday he was stepping back
from all public commitments, a mid fallout from the release
of emails between him and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Quote.
This is his quote a statement he made to c NBC. Quote.
I am deeply ashamed of my actions and recognize the
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pain they have caused. I take full responsibility for my
misguided decision to continue communicating with mister Epstein. Unquote, Somers
said in a statement obtained by CNBC. He continues, quote
while continuing to fulfill my teaching obligations, I will be
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stepping back from public commitments as one part of my
broader effort. Little unclear, said Somers, who's former president of
Harvard University and who teaches at the school. Somers is
a member of the board of Open AI. He's also
a columnist for Bloomberg News. This was a report that
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was quoting from CNN. You know, look, Donald Trump is
done on one point eighty okay, and you almost wonder
and I don't know. Maybe the Epstein files will be
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the OA king gun that brings down Donald Trump. I
don't think so, but maybe with these twenty thousand emails.
So what is Trump's playing here? My thought is, has
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he done a Mohammad Ali ropidope, meaning he's absorbed all
the shots here and now he's saying release the files.
I don't know. I have no idea what credibility Jeffrey
Epstein would hold. I have no idea what credibility Juzayn
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Juselene Maxwell would hold. They were both trafficking in underage girls. Allegedly.
Epstein's dead. He never went to trial in the federal charges.
Maxwell has been convicted, she continues. She continues to assert
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her innocence. I don't believe either one of them. Epstein,
from everything that I have read, was a total pedophile, pervert,
whatever you want to call it. Okay, whatever you want
to call it. Let's see lit it lit Well, this
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is the president yesterday, okay, And I'm gonna play it,
and then I want to hear from you. I mean,
if Donald Trump is implicated in this, why would he
release these emails or why would he want people to
release these emails? This is what he's saying. We're all
adults here. I want to know your interpretation. Cut a Rob,
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please cut at.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
We have nothing to do with Epstein, the Democrats. All
of his friends were Democrats. You look at this redof
and you look at Larry Summer's built Lynn they went
to his island all the time, and many others oral democrats.
All I want is I want for people to recognize
a great job that I've done on pricing, on affordability,
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because we brought prices way down, but they go.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Way lower on energy.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
On ending eight wars and another one coming pretty soon.
I believe we've done a great job, and I hate
to see that deflect from the great job we've done.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, that's what he said yesterday. Cut be Rob.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I'm all for it. You know we've already given fifty
thousand pages.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You do know that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation, with the Martin Luther
King situation, not to put Jeffrey Epstein in the same category.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But no matter what we gave, it's never enough. You know.
With Kennedy, we gave everything and it wasn't enough. With
Martin Luther King, we gave everything and it's never enough.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
We've already given I believe the number is fifty thousand pages.
Fifty thousand pages, and it's just a Russia Russia Russia
hoax as it pertains to the Republicans.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, he's been pretty unequivocal there. I mean, I'm holding
ont of these sound bites one more cut, see Rob.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I believe that many of the people that we some
of the people that we mentioned are being looked at
very seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein, but they
were with them all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I wasn't at all, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
What I just don't want Epstein to do is detract
from the great success of the Republican Party, including the
fact that the Democrats are totally blamed for the shutdown.
You know, they cost our country hundreds of billions of
dollars with it at a lot of inconvenience. So I'm
for and they can do whatever they want. We'll give
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them everything. Sure, I would let thet said it look
at it, let anybody look at it, but don't talk
about it too much, because honestly, I don't want to
take it away from us.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's really a Democrat problem.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
The Democrats were Epstein's friends.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
All of them. And it's a hoax. The whole thing
is a hoax, and I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Want to take it away from really the great gess
of what the Republican Party has accomplished over the last
period of time.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Here's where I think Donald Trump makes a mistake. He
weaves three or four theories within a forty second sound bite.
There was a question where you signed the bill if
it passes the House and Senate, it may it may
pass in beetle proof. So he said he'll sign it.
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These are statements he made, I think, in part today,
some of them wraps last night as he was heading
to the plane to fly back to Washington. If if
he knows that that Epstein has or his emails have
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him dead, to ride that he's only dug hisself a
bigger hole because he's denying everything. So there's no equivocation there.
He can't say, well, you know, I was introduced to
someone and I didn't realize that what I have. You know,
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there's no equivocation. What is his plan?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Maybe maybe he's certain that there's nothing there. I don't
think it's necessarily going to go away as a story.
Obviously Epstein, who he had some level of friendship with
for some time. Bad guy bad guy trafficked in underaged children.
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Well not children maybe, but you know young girls, teenagers.
Bad guy bad guy did it for himself, did it
for him to influence other people. Uh, President has made
a decision. From his perspective, he'd better be right. If
he's wrong, say hello to President jd Vance. We're going
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to go to phone calls. I want to know what
you think Donald Trump's game is. Is that is he
recognizing the inevitable and that the votes are not there
to stop this, and he's saying, okay, go ahead. Or
did he allow allegations to be made which he knows
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are not true. He may have, clearly he spent time
with Epstein. They may have stood side by side and
oggled young women. Or they may have agled other older
you know, adult women. H They may have they may
have exchanged licentious emails. I don't know what we're gonna find.
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I tried to go over as much of them as
I could, UH in the last couple of days, and
I watched What What CNN and others who I knew
would pull out the most condemning emails. Didn't see anything,
didn't see anything, which which was which was going to
nail him? We'll see six one seven two thirty six
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one seven nine. Let's get right to it. Coming back
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Speaker 3 (13:52):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
All right, I will take them as they came in,
going to Joe and Belmont first. Joe, you are first
this hour on night Side. I got a bunch of calls.
You can run ahead, Joe. Dan.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
This is in a fact, it's hunch, But I believe
that Trump realized that the silent majority of the Republican
Party was against them, so he uh he wanted to
uh have the files released.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So if if this materials in the files which show
that he trafficked in the activity that Epstein allegedly trafficked in,
He's done as a president. See you later, Dan.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
I believe that he said he had nothing to hide.
I believe that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Well if it's if it is the truth, okay, uh,
and he has nothing to hide, he's going to be fine.
That's all. I mean. You and I would agree on that.
Would you agree with me if the stuff in the
in the emails that is inculpatory, that basically shows that
he engaged in the activity that that that Epstein purportedly
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engaged in or you know, helped helped other men, older
men participate in. He's gone at that point.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Yeah, But what if he did he did nothing or I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Saying that's what that would Maybe he didn't. I don't know.
I have seen nothing that implicates him. He obviously, at
a point in time was a friend of Epstein, and
I'm sure that that that despite their their difference in ages,
I'm sure that they were you know guys who probably
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exchanged you know, emails, which they wouldn't be proud of.
But that's different from you know, getting on an airplane
or flying to Lolita Island and engaging in activity that
purportedly went on there. That's all I'm saying. I don't know, Joe,
And could.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
I make a comment on the turnarounds of moduley Teala Green?
I think it has something to do with the turnarounds.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
We'll go ahead. I prefer I prefer not to, but
go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
She said that she wouldn't worship or serve Trump, and
I admire her courage because I wouldn't worship Trump as
a godard or an idol or a president or a
man either.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah. Right, Well, I think she's kind of a nut
job and she's she's she's about as as predictable as
I don't know whatever. Look, she's she The left loves
her now because she's going after Trump. They thought she
was a nut job. I think she's still a nut job.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
But Trump called her a trader.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well whatever, you know that that sort of stuff is.
It just takes the eye off the ball. Let's the country.
Let's get the country back together, and then we can
they can engage in their their silliness. Okay, thank you,
thank you, thank you a man, thank you, Joe. Let me
go to my friend Harvey Silverglade. Harvey, thanks for checking in.
I'd love to get your take on because you knew Trump,
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you negotiated and and and litigated against Trump. I know
you hold him in very low esteem, which is which
is perfectly understandable. But what do you think his plan
is here? Okay, I'm very.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Familiar with the hold Jeffrey Epstein thing as well. Yep, Okay,
here's let me start from the top. Sure, I think
the reason Trump has decided to let release these papers
is scause he realized is that he doesn't it's going
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to be leaked out, leaked after painful leak, and he's
decided that he is going to tell his story a story,
whether it's true or not. I have no firsthand information,
but I'm no Donald Trump fan, but I think that
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there is a gigantic guilt by association thing going on here,
unless I mean there are photographs of him with his
arm around Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Sure, absolutely, this is.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Not proof of anything other than the fact that they
were friends. And if there's no evidence that he was
in the abuse ring, then I think he should let
it all hang out. And he's de sored he's going
to do that. Now, let me go on to Larry Summers.
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I'm a friend Larry Summers, not a close friend, but
a friend. Sure, I think it's a huge mistake for
him to step out of essentially public life. He also
hold around with Epstein, but there is no evidence that
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he did anything wrong, and I think it's a gigamic
mistake to feed the public paranoia about this.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Okay, counsel, let me if I can't just ask you
one question. I read earlier his statement that he released today,
and I want you to help me decipher that statement. Okay,
if you have just and you know, there's nobody I
respect more than you. You know that. I hope you
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know that by now, Somers wrote, quote, I am deeply
ashamed of my actions odd word and my and recognize
the pain they have caused. I take full responsibility for
my misguided decision, and that's period after they have caused.
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Second sentence, I take full responsibility for my misguided decision
to continue communicating with mister Epstein. Unquote. My question is
odd choice of words. I'm ashamed of my actions his
choice of words. Would you, if you were his counsel here,
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would have you counseled him that that's a bad word
to use under these circumstances.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I think that that it's a bad word because it
conjures up in people's imaginations all kinds of things. Right,
it is the wrong word. But he is ashamed of
his association with Epstein. That's okay, he has no reason
to be ashamed of his association with Epstein.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well, he refers to it as my misguided decision to
continue communicating with mister Epstein. There's sort of a time
consideration when you say my misguided decision to continue. So
they had to come to a point where he's saying
I should have been small enough at a I think
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my interpretation is I should have been small enough at
a point to have ceased the communication. That's how I
read that. Is that unfair?
Speaker 5 (21:38):
No, I think you're right, that's what Summers is saying.
But I don't think he has to apologize for communicating
with a proven pedophile and an abuser of women. It's
not my choice. It wouldn't be my choice of friends
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in the first place.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Sure, of course, not, of course not. But so what
of say is why release that statement? Why not have
released a statement which was more ambiguous. It almost seems
to me when he when he uses the phrase my actions,
he's deeply ashamed of my actions. It cries out, what actions, missus,
President Somers, are you talking about.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
I think the release of the statement was a huge
mistake because the public is asking now what action? That's
the question people are asking me. And the release of
this statement, which presumably his PR people had a hand in,
was a huge mistake because it's getting people's imaginations going,
I'm with you, huge mistake. I read it. I was
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shocked that somebody advised him with somebody didn't advise him
to just keep his mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Harvey as always. Uh, you know, I I really appreciate you.
You're you're checking in particularly on this point, and I
I am gratified that that we're in in some accord
as to our the wisdom of that that relatively short statement.
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I mean, there's probably no more than thirty five or
forty words of that statement.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I don't make one point.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely the.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Same guilt player association. Yes, hit my friend Alan Thurschowitz.
I know that, And you know Alan represented him and
made the mistake of becoming too friendly with a client.
I have never become friendly with a quiet I keep
my distance.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
But I don't believe I don't believe that Alan would.
And I know Alan. You know him much better, but
I know him pretty well. I don't believe, knowing Alan,
that he would have been dumb enough to have done
anything more than represent Epstein and Alan.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
I'm confident he does. He I'm confident I know Alan
went up to know that that's not his thing. Yeah,
but I also can tell you that every time he
was a Epstein's Island and I wouldn't have gone socially
with a client in any event, but he had his
wife with him.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Right, So I mean yeah, and I think that Alan's
denials there's a there's a ring of truth in the
way in which Alan made his denials. Summers should have
used Alan as a lawyer here. He couldn't have.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Probably absolutely, advisor.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You got it, Harvey, you are the best, my friend.
As always. We'll talk soon, Thanks buddy. Okay, bye, Thanks
great Harvey Silverglate. We'll take a quick break here in
news at the bottom of the hour. It's Night Side
with Ray and.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Let's go to Bob and Rhode Island. Bob, welcome back.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I did I have a theory why Trump is saying
release the Epstein emails?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
All right, I'm looking for anyone's theories ahead.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, okay, okay, I'll tell you He's just going after
Democrats like Bill Clinton and saying if you're gonna persecute
me about what I did with Epstein? Why don't you
persecute the Democrats that are so called as guilty as
Trump is. He's one scared. That's why he's permitted on
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about face on his saying release let let them, let
them take a vote. He's running scared on that too,
because he knows he's gonna lose because the Democrats Republicans
are gonna side with the Democrats and say this is
gonna be relieved.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, that that's kind of like a much kind of
like a mutual suicide pact.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Because no, no, no, he's blaming the Democrats because he says,
if it's good for me, it's good for the Democrats too,
like Bill Clinton. But it didn't make you money better
than Bill Clinton. Bob, and we've got you in office, Bob.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Let me let me ask you a question, Okay, because
I admire your your intellect here, Okay, let's assume that
in the emails are real indications, you know, approaching the
level of evidence that Trump engaged in the sort of
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activity that apparently Epstein was peddling. He's done as president.
He'll be impeached with him within a month.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Yah, see he wants to be a motyl at this point.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Well, that's a different that he'll be alim in that one.
I mean the statute of limitations.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
But you don't feel sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
At all, And I know that, I don't know does.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
She feel sorry for? Ask who who was the one
that brought up the court because she was a he
had sex with her?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Who you're talking about Clinton or Trump?
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Trump?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Well?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, uh yeah, what what was your prostitute? Whatever she was?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well, yeah, that's why that's a whole different scenario in that,
not that that anybody is suggesting that's a good thing,
but that's a.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Saying it's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
No, no, no said, just hang with hang with me
for second above. Okay, what I'm saying he was in
Las Vegas, where I'm not sure if prostitution is legal.
But she was an adult, she was a porn star.
We're not talking about that. We're talking about whether or
not any of these guys engaged with, uh with sexual
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activity of girls under the age of fourteen, fifteen, sixty.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I'm worried about, yeah, Dan, and he's worried about the
young girls. Very upset about the whole thing, and going
to bring him to trial or epsign to trial, and
Trump's so.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Epstein's are going to trial. He's dead. Trump wouldn't be
going to trial because there's probably a statue, no statue
of limitations.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
He's going to be dead period in public life.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
All right, bear it up. All right, you made it,
and that's your second call in the role. You didn't
get planked. Congratulations, Dan, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Thank you already, shower tonight, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I enjoy good night. Let me go next to Sachi
in saga, Sachi you're next night, saga Right ahead.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Man.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
You know, I think that if you don't know how
to swim, if the water goes about your head, for
they for his own one feet or fifty feet, doesn't
make a difference.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Well you can be okay at one feed you can
stand up. Let's say, if you don't know how to swim,
whether it's ten feet or fifty feet, yeah, you go ahead,
go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
So basically that's why Trump is going for it, saying okay,
let's put it out because it's it's actually I think
he's going to drown either way. I worded for him.
You know, I like Trump, but things a lot of
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things doesn't coming out, It's like Sammy Day, sorry about
the prostitutional that you paid off the girl. Then you
know locker room talk, you know, like one by one.
So now he's probably probably going to give up and say, hey,
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let's go open up all the fire and like the
previous caller, he's going to go, you know, you're going
to say, Okay, Clinton did it.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well. I don't know that that gets him off. Clinton
is no longer president. He is, so Clinton can't be
impeached at this point. But I think that if there
is evidence in the emails, I don't understand why he
would be doing this one eighty That's all I can't
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That's when I can't fathom at this point.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
The one one thing I'm a little worried about is
what's going to you know, if he says if it
comes out and he will signed for some you know reason,
what's going to happen to the ballroom, all the things
that he destroyed at the White House, what is going
to happen to.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
That the ballroom? Well, the ballroom I think is still
going to be built. He claims that there's private funding
so forth, So that would be the least of his
problems as far as I'm concerned, Satch. Well, you know, look,
I appreciate you offering a theory on it.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
It's a different if you have to notice it. Yp
Morgan cheez. They were also backed off from donating money
for the ball room.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I didn't, Yeah, I did not, but.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
Was also listed on the Epstein fire.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah again, I haven't read all the emails. If that's true,
that's fine. I don't know. Okay, I'm seriously, I I
you've been called before, You're always reliable, so that's that's fine.
But yeah, I I have I have not heard that.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay, my el is still.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
You know, we can't call it a Trumps small room
after you know, ya again, that's the least of this
will be, you know, that's the least of this.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's the least of his problems. Uh. If if this,
if this stuff, if this evidence here, ASATCHI I gotta
let you run because I'm flat out of time. So
let me let you run and I'll talk. So thank you,
say thank you. Coming right back on Nightside after the breakup,
three calls, going to get them all in. I promise.
My name is Dan Ray and this is night Side.
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Why has Donald Trump done one hundred on the Epstein emails.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's night Side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
All let me go to my friend John and Pennsylvania.
John is no fan of Donald Trump. John, I'm interested
into what you think is his reason for doing a
one eighty on the Epstein emails.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Oh right, Well, I think the real and it was
clear once he wasn't able to get Nouran, Bobot or
Nancy Mayce to change their vote on the issue, then
he simply got ahead of a political defeat, because otherwise
the House Republicans would have been seen as voting in
favor in defiance of him. Now that being said, he
made a rather shrewd move by ordering Pam Bondi to
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launch investigations into certain prominent Democrats, including Bill Clinton and
Democratic Party donors, because that way she could say that
there's a no on going investigation which will limit certain
files from being released, and then that would go all
the way to the Supreme Court. Now, I'm going to
(33:44):
say one thing that may or may not surprise you.
I don't think Donald Trump was one of the wealthy
and powerful men that partook of the underage girls that
Epstein was pimping out. I do think there's obviously material
that would be embarrassing to him. Regarding his relationship with Epstein.
(34:09):
I think more in the sense that, like a lot
of very powerful influential people that had so called friendships
or business relationships with Epstein, they had to be on
certain a certain level turning a blind eye to what
they should have known was vile conduct on his part.
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I don't know if you saw there was a recent
article that appeared in The Times about the relationship of
City Bank and JP Morgan and their their financial partnerships
with with with Epstein, and how they made exception after
exception after exception, even when he was opening accounts in
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the names of what they should have recognized were underad girls.
I mean, it need not have been criminal, but it was.
It was unethical, it was he was just almost the
(35:19):
level of gross it's from the wrong term, but gross negligent.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah. Let me let me say this, John, there's nothing
that you have said tonight that I disagree with, by
the way, and I think that, uh, you know, if
if if, for example, the the so called birthday card
that Trump sent to Epstein, which was the the silhouette
of a of a woman, the very suggestive you know
birthday card. Now, you know have guys sent birthday cards,
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but that was one that's hand drawn.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
That's that's that's that's not we agree.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
We agree he wrote and sent it, right, I don't
know agree, I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Look, I don't know. Okay, I don't know. I'm as
a lawyer, I always want to I can't tell you
that I know he sent it, and I that's just
for me. It's a step too far. Do I think
he could have sent it? Yeah? Do I think that
it looked like his signature? Yeah? But would I like
to see that to be evaluated by a more serious
(36:23):
person who could who could determine the bona fides of
the document?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
But anyway, look, I got three others, John, I got
to go to let me leave it with you too.
Normally get more more time. But I think he made
good points, and I'm in agreement with you tonight as Frankly.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
Uh yeah, if you if you look at Epstein's history,
this look, he got opportunity after opportunity after opportunity. The
man was highly intelligent. He dropped out of college after
one year, and yet he kept getting opportunities with high
level people and high Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
No, no, this got this guy was this guy was
was providing something. There's no question, no question. I gotta run.
I got to run. But call back and we'll have
a further conversation on Thank you very quickly. I'm going
to try my best here. We got Mike and Quincy.
Mike next on Nightside.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Go ahead, Hey, Dan, I just got a quick statement
in question.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
My steament is.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Like I so, I'll tell my question is what you know?
What Harvey said is that.
Speaker 10 (37:27):
If you are friends with Epstein, you know that's something
that you shouldn't be afraid ashamed of. Isn't being friends.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
With Epstein something you should be afraid of? It should
be ashamed of?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Well, I think that at this point, I think again
it's what did what did you know? And it obviously
back what did you know? And when did you know it?
I mean, if you thought that this was a guy
who was gallivanting around town, uh, and was somebody who
was picking up people's dinners and uh and he was
he was, you know, well connected all of that. The
first that you realize that this guy was someone's I
(38:04):
think it was John's words here, pimping out underage girls.
I think at that point it's like Kryptonite time. It's like,
get me away from this guy.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Okay, I think, excuse me, I agree with you.
Speaker 10 (38:16):
If Trump is implicated at all in this, he's like
the biggest idiot to ever step foot into the White House.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Like, so allow this to happen, like to release all
that stuff, like and if you're incriminated.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly, that's exactly. Yeah, absolutely a great point, Patrick,
rather than Mike. I got a screwed here. Let me
grab two more real quickly. Okay, thank you, all right,
thank you, good I thank you. Tim. I gotta split
a minute, you and Patrick, go ahead, go ahead. Tim.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
I don't know anything about that Trump and the Epstein thing,
but I called to wish you a wonderful thanksgiving you
in yours.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Well we will talk between now and next Thursday. But
if we don't, happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Thanks Tim,
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Patrick. I got about thirty for you, buddy. You called Lake, go.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Ahead, got it?
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Got it?
Speaker 9 (39:05):
So Dan. A lot of emails have been leaked out
in the last week. We're gotten Epstein and numerous several
of them indicate emails from him, to Maxwell and to
others that Trump could not be broken. In other words,
you could read between the lines of Trump was not
one of the people who was caught up in this
(39:25):
copabat operation, so that those are out there separately, you know.
In terms of why do you think he broke I
think finally he's just like, I can't defend this anymore
and I'm gonna let it go. You know, I have
to wonder was he being pressured by the Israeli lobby
to keep this suppressed as long as he could and
he finally broke on it. What do you think of that?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Dan? I think the Israeli lobby is is way too far.
That's that that's that's a reach that is way beyond
anything that I would even think of. But I got
to run for now, Patrick and later this week. Thanks
all right, good night, where everybody, Rob Brooks, great job,
busy night. Thanks all the callers, my guest, Reverend Kevin Peterson,
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm telling you Boston's Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
My thanks to my friend Reverend Kevin Peterson of the
New Democracy Coalition. We will stay on this story, uh,
and again with them all due respect and apologies to
to Radiant Jasmine of Randolph. If if only some more
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federal monies or some more programs could solve these problems. Now,
these problems are much deeper and much more serious than that.
You may have kids, uh, you know, now, kids get
breakfast lunches in schools, there's after school programs. Uh. The
more the merrier, most kids take advantage of those programs.
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And most kids, whatever their background white, black, pink, polka dot,
purple or whatever, brown Asian, Uh, they want the same
thing that they want to do well in school. They
want to to uh, to improve their lot in life.
But you have within the murdered triangle, you have some
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kids who are dealing drugs, and you have some kids
who are maybe fence fencing weapons. And it's there in
lies the problem. And the police have had long enough
to figure out who the bad apples are. And I
don't know why. And it isn't It isn't the police
in the street. It isn't the patrolman. It's the the
(01:36):
police who have been politicized. Okay, I can't give Commissioner
Cocks to come on this program because he knows he
would be asked tough questions. That's fine, That's fine, but
that doesn't mean I'm going to know the problems that
that are not being addressed in Boston. So I now
do want to change topics because I had promised uh
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hosted around two am this morning. Now, I want to
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talk about an interesting twist in the Epstein email story.
It's beginning to come into focus for me. But everyone
seems to be stunned that President Trump has reversed himself.
The New York Times article today by Ashley On published
(03:27):
updated today this afternoon, President Trump says House Republicans should
vote to release Epstein Epstein files. President Trump reversed himself
as he faced the prospect of dozens of Republicans could
vote this week to compel his administration to release files
related to Jeffrey Epstein. Look, I got to believe at
(03:47):
this point that Donald Trump has a pretty good idea
of what's in the Jeffrey Epstein files. I'll tell you
who does have a good idea what's in thee the
Epstein files is former heart Verard president Larry Summers. Here's
an article today in which the former Treasury secretary and
(04:11):
president of Harvard said he was stepping back from all
public commitments, a mid fallout from the release of emails
between him and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
This is.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
A statement that he released. It's an interesting statement. Former
Treasury Secretary Larry Summer said Monday he was stepping back
from all public commitments, a mid fallout from the release
of emails between him and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Quote.
This is his quote a statement he made to c NBC. Quote.
I am deeply ashamed of my actions and recognize the
(04:50):
pain they have caused. I take full responsibility for my
misguided decision to continue communicating with mister Epstein. Unquote, Somers
said in a statement obtained by CNBC. He continues, quote
while continuing to fulfill my teaching obligations, I will be
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stepping back from public commitments as one part of my
broader effort. Little unclear, said Somers, who's former president of
Harvard University and who teaches at the school. Somers is
a member of the board of Open AI. He's also
a columnist for Bloomberg News. This was a report that
(05:35):
was quoting from CNN. You know, look, Donald Trump is
done on one point eighty okay, and you almost wonder
and I don't know. Maybe the Epstein files will be
(05:59):
the OA king gun that brings down Donald Trump. I
don't think so, but maybe with these twenty thousand emails.
So what is Trump's playing here? My thought is, has
(06:21):
he done a Mohammad Ali ropidope, meaning he's absorbed all
the shots here and now he's saying release the files.
I don't know. I have no idea what credibility Jeffrey
Epstein would hold. I have no idea what credibility Juzayn
(06:44):
Juselene Maxwell would hold. They were both trafficking in underage girls. Allegedly.
Epstein's dead. He never went to trial in the federal charges.
Maxwell has been convicted, she continues. She continues to assert
(07:04):
her innocence. I don't believe either one of them. Epstein,
from everything that I have read, was a total pedophile, pervert,
whatever you want to call it. Okay, whatever you want
to call it. Let's see lit it lit Well, this
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is the president yesterday, okay, And I'm gonna play it,
and then I want to hear from you. I mean,
if Donald Trump is implicated in this, why would he
release these emails or why would he want people to
release these emails? This is what he's saying. We're all
adults here. I want to know your interpretation. Cut a Rob,
(07:48):
please cut at.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
We have nothing to do with Epstein, the Democrats. All
of his friends were Democrats. You look at this redof
and you look at Larry Summer's built Lynn they went
to his island all the time, and many others oral democrats.
All I want is I want for people to recognize
a great job that I've done on pricing, on affordability,
(08:12):
because we brought prices way down, but they go.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Way lower on energy.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
On ending eight wars and another one coming pretty soon.
I believe we've done a great job, and I hate
to see that deflect from the great job we've done.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, that's what he said yesterday. Cut be Rob.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I'm all for it. You know we've already given fifty
thousand pages.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You do know that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation, with the Martin Luther
King situation, not to put Jeffrey Epstein in the same category.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But no matter what we gave, it's never enough. You know.
With Kennedy, we gave everything and it wasn't enough. With
Martin Luther King, we gave everything and it's never enough.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
We've already given I believe the number is fifty thousand pages.
Fifty thousand pages, and it's just a Russia Russia Russia
hoax as it pertains to the Republicans.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, he's been pretty unequivocal there. I mean, I'm holding
ont of these sound bites one more cut, see Rob.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I believe that many of the people that we some
of the people that we mentioned are being looked at
very seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein, but they
were with them all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I wasn't at all, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
What I just don't want Epstein to do is detract
from the great success of the Republican Party, including the
fact that the Democrats are totally blamed for the shutdown.
You know, they cost our country hundreds of billions of
dollars with it at a lot of inconvenience. So I'm
for and they can do whatever they want. We'll give
(10:04):
them everything. Sure, I would let thet said it look
at it, let anybody look at it, but don't talk
about it too much, because honestly, I don't want to
take it away from us.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's really a Democrat problem.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
The Democrats were Epstein's friends.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
All of them. And it's a hoax. The whole thing
is a hoax, and I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Want to take it away from really the great gess
of what the Republican Party has accomplished over the last
period of time.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Here's where I think Donald Trump makes a mistake. He
weaves three or four theories within a forty second sound bite.
There was a question where you signed the bill if
it passes the House and Senate, it may it may
pass in beetle proof. So he said he'll sign it.
(10:54):
These are statements he made, I think, in part today,
some of them wraps last night as he was heading
to the plane to fly back to Washington. If if
he knows that that Epstein has or his emails have
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him dead, to ride that he's only dug hisself a
bigger hole because he's denying everything. So there's no equivocation there.
He can't say, well, you know, I was introduced to
someone and I didn't realize that what I have. You know,
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there's no equivocation. What is his plan?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Maybe maybe he's certain that there's nothing there. I don't
think it's necessarily going to go away as a story.
Obviously Epstein, who he had some level of friendship with
for some time. Bad guy bad guy trafficked in underaged children.
(12:03):
Well not children maybe, but you know young girls, teenagers.
Bad guy bad guy did it for himself, did it
for him to influence other people. Uh, President has made
a decision. From his perspective, he'd better be right. If
he's wrong, say hello to President jd Vance. We're going
(12:28):
to go to phone calls. I want to know what
you think Donald Trump's game is. Is that is he
recognizing the inevitable and that the votes are not there
to stop this, and he's saying, okay, go ahead. Or
did he allow allegations to be made which he knows
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are not true. He may have, clearly he spent time
with Epstein. They may have stood side by side and
oggled young women. Or they may have agled other older
you know, adult women. H They may have they may
have exchanged licentious emails. I don't know what we're gonna find.
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I tried to go over as much of them as
I could, UH in the last couple of days, and
I watched What What CNN and others who I knew
would pull out the most condemning emails. Didn't see anything,
didn't see anything, which which was which was going to
nail him? We'll see six one seven two thirty six
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one seven nine. Let's get right to it. Coming back
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Speaker 3 (13:52):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
All right, I will take them as they came in,
going to Joe and Belmont first. Joe, you are first
this hour on night Side. I got a bunch of calls.
You can run ahead, Joe. Dan.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
This is in a fact, it's hunch, But I believe
that Trump realized that the silent majority of the Republican
Party was against them, so he uh he wanted to
uh have the files released.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So if if this materials in the files which show
that he trafficked in the activity that Epstein allegedly trafficked in,
He's done as a president. See you later, Dan.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
I believe that he said he had nothing to hide.
I believe that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Well if it's if it is the truth, okay, uh,
and he has nothing to hide, he's going to be fine.
That's all. I mean. You and I would agree on that.
Would you agree with me if the stuff in the
in the emails that is inculpatory, that basically shows that
he engaged in the activity that that that Epstein purportedly
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engaged in or you know, helped helped other men, older
men participate in. He's gone at that point.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Yeah, But what if he did he did nothing or I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Saying that's what that would Maybe he didn't. I don't know.
I have seen nothing that implicates him. He obviously, at
a point in time was a friend of Epstein, and
I'm sure that that that despite their their difference in ages,
I'm sure that they were you know guys who probably
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exchanged you know, emails, which they wouldn't be proud of.
But that's different from you know, getting on an airplane
or flying to Lolita Island and engaging in activity that
purportedly went on there. That's all I'm saying. I don't know, Joe,
And could.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
I make a comment on the turnarounds of moduley Teala Green?
I think it has something to do with the turnarounds.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
We'll go ahead. I prefer I prefer not to, but
go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
She said that she wouldn't worship or serve Trump, and
I admire her courage because I wouldn't worship Trump as
a godard or an idol or a president or a
man either.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah. Right, Well, I think she's kind of a nut
job and she's she's she's about as as predictable as
I don't know whatever. Look, she's she The left loves
her now because she's going after Trump. They thought she
was a nut job. I think she's still a nut job.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
But Trump called her a trader.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well whatever, you know that that sort of stuff is.
It just takes the eye off the ball. Let's the country.
Let's get the country back together, and then we can
they can engage in their their silliness. Okay, thank you,
thank you, thank you a man, thank you, Joe. Let me
go to my friend Harvey Silverglade. Harvey, thanks for checking in.
I'd love to get your take on because you knew Trump,
(17:21):
you negotiated and and and litigated against Trump. I know
you hold him in very low esteem, which is which
is perfectly understandable. But what do you think his plan
is here? Okay, I'm very.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Familiar with the hold Jeffrey Epstein thing as well. Yep, Okay,
here's let me start from the top. Sure, I think
the reason Trump has decided to let release these papers
is scause he realized is that he doesn't it's going
(18:00):
to be leaked out, leaked after painful leak, and he's
decided that he is going to tell his story a story,
whether it's true or not. I have no firsthand information,
but I'm no Donald Trump fan, but I think that
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there is a gigantic guilt by association thing going on here,
unless I mean there are photographs of him with his
arm around Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Sure, absolutely, this is.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Not proof of anything other than the fact that they
were friends. And if there's no evidence that he was
in the abuse ring, then I think he should let
it all hang out. And he's de sored he's going
to do that. Now, let me go on to Larry Summers.
(18:59):
I'm a friend Larry Summers, not a close friend, but
a friend. Sure, I think it's a huge mistake for
him to step out of essentially public life. He also
hold around with Epstein, but there is no evidence that
(19:23):
he did anything wrong, and I think it's a gigamic
mistake to feed the public paranoia about this.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Okay, counsel, let me if I can't just ask you
one question. I read earlier his statement that he released today,
and I want you to help me decipher that statement. Okay,
if you have just and you know, there's nobody I
respect more than you. You know that. I hope you
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know that by now, Somers wrote, quote, I am deeply
ashamed of my actions odd word and my and recognize
the pain they have caused. I take full responsibility for
my misguided decision, and that's period after they have caused.
(20:18):
Second sentence, I take full responsibility for my misguided decision
to continue communicating with mister Epstein. Unquote. My question is
odd choice of words. I'm ashamed of my actions his
choice of words. Would you, if you were his counsel here,
(20:39):
would have you counseled him that that's a bad word
to use under these circumstances.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I think that that it's a bad word because it
conjures up in people's imaginations all kinds of things. Right,
it is the wrong word. But he is ashamed of
his association with Epstein. That's okay, he has no reason
to be ashamed of his association with Epstein.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well, he refers to it as my misguided decision to
continue communicating with mister Epstein. There's sort of a time
consideration when you say my misguided decision to continue. So
they had to come to a point where he's saying
I should have been small enough at a I think
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my interpretation is I should have been small enough at
a point to have ceased the communication. That's how I
read that. Is that unfair?
Speaker 5 (21:38):
No, I think you're right, that's what Summers is saying.
But I don't think he has to apologize for communicating
with a proven pedophile and an abuser of women. It's
not my choice. It wouldn't be my choice of friends
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in the first place.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Sure, of course, not, of course not. But so what
of say is why release that statement? Why not have
released a statement which was more ambiguous. It almost seems
to me when he when he uses the phrase my actions,
he's deeply ashamed of my actions. It cries out, what actions, missus,
President Somers, are you talking about.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
I think the release of the statement was a huge
mistake because the public is asking now what action? That's
the question people are asking me. And the release of
this statement, which presumably his PR people had a hand in,
was a huge mistake because it's getting people's imaginations going,
I'm with you, huge mistake. I read it. I was
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shocked that somebody advised him with somebody didn't advise him
to just keep his mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Harvey as always. Uh, you know, I I really appreciate you.
You're you're checking in particularly on this point, and I
I am gratified that that we're in in some accord
as to our the wisdom of that that relatively short statement.
(23:16):
I mean, there's probably no more than thirty five or
forty words of that statement.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I don't make one point.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely the.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Same guilt player association. Yes, hit my friend Alan Thurschowitz.
I know that, And you know Alan represented him and
made the mistake of becoming too friendly with a client.
I have never become friendly with a quiet I keep
my distance.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
But I don't believe I don't believe that Alan would.
And I know Alan. You know him much better, but
I know him pretty well. I don't believe, knowing Alan,
that he would have been dumb enough to have done
anything more than represent Epstein and Alan.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
I'm confident he does. He I'm confident I know Alan
went up to know that that's not his thing. Yeah,
but I also can tell you that every time he
was a Epstein's Island and I wouldn't have gone socially
with a client in any event, but he had his
wife with him.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Right, So I mean yeah, and I think that Alan's
denials there's a there's a ring of truth in the
way in which Alan made his denials. Summers should have
used Alan as a lawyer here. He couldn't have.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Probably absolutely, advisor.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You got it, Harvey, you are the best, my friend.
As always. We'll talk soon, Thanks buddy. Okay, bye, Thanks
great Harvey Silverglate. We'll take a quick break here in
news at the bottom of the hour. It's Night Side
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Speaker 2 (25:03):
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Let's go to Bob and Rhode Island. Bob, welcome back.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I did I have a theory why Trump is saying
release the Epstein emails?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
All right, I'm looking for anyone's theories ahead.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, okay, okay, I'll tell you He's just going after
Democrats like Bill Clinton and saying if you're gonna persecute
me about what I did with Epstein? Why don't you
persecute the Democrats that are so called as guilty as
Trump is. He's one scared. That's why he's permitted on
(25:43):
about face on his saying release let let them, let
them take a vote. He's running scared on that too,
because he knows he's gonna lose because the Democrats Republicans
are gonna side with the Democrats and say this is
gonna be relieved.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, that that's kind of like a much kind of
like a mutual suicide pact.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Because no, no, no, he's blaming the Democrats because he says,
if it's good for me, it's good for the Democrats too,
like Bill Clinton. But it didn't make you money better
than Bill Clinton. Bob, and we've got you in office, Bob.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Let me let me ask you a question, Okay, because
I admire your your intellect here, Okay, let's assume that
in the emails are real indications, you know, approaching the
level of evidence that Trump engaged in the sort of
(26:44):
activity that apparently Epstein was peddling. He's done as president.
He'll be impeached with him within a month.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Yah, see he wants to be a motyl at this point.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Well, that's a different that he'll be alim in that one.
I mean the statute of limitations.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
But you don't feel sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
At all, And I know that, I don't know does.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
She feel sorry for? Ask who who was the one
that brought up the court because she was a he
had sex with her?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Who you're talking about Clinton or Trump?
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Trump?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Well?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, uh yeah, what what was your prostitute? Whatever she was?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well, yeah, that's why that's a whole different scenario in that,
not that that anybody is suggesting that's a good thing,
but that's a.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Saying it's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
No, no, no said, just hang with hang with me
for second above. Okay, what I'm saying he was in
Las Vegas, where I'm not sure if prostitution is legal.
But she was an adult, she was a porn star.
We're not talking about that. We're talking about whether or
not any of these guys engaged with, uh with sexual
(28:05):
activity of girls under the age of fourteen, fifteen, sixty.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I'm worried about, yeah, Dan, and he's worried about the
young girls. Very upset about the whole thing, and going
to bring him to trial or epsign to trial, and
Trump's so.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Epstein's are going to trial. He's dead. Trump wouldn't be
going to trial because there's probably a statue, no statue
of limitations.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
He's going to be dead period in public life.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
All right, bear it up. All right, you made it,
and that's your second call in the role. You didn't
get planked. Congratulations, Dan, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Thank you already, shower tonight, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I enjoy good night. Let me go next to Sachi
in saga, Sachi you're next night, saga Right ahead.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Man.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
You know, I think that if you don't know how
to swim, if the water goes about your head, for
they for his own one feet or fifty feet, doesn't
make a difference.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Well you can be okay at one feed you can
stand up. Let's say, if you don't know how to swim,
whether it's ten feet or fifty feet, yeah, you go ahead,
go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
So basically that's why Trump is going for it, saying okay,
let's put it out because it's it's actually I think
he's going to drown either way. I worded for him.
You know, I like Trump, but things a lot of
(29:35):
things doesn't coming out, It's like Sammy Day, sorry about
the prostitutional that you paid off the girl. Then you
know locker room talk, you know, like one by one.
So now he's probably probably going to give up and say, hey,
(29:57):
let's go open up all the fire and like the
previous caller, he's going to go, you know, you're going
to say, Okay, Clinton did it.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well. I don't know that that gets him off. Clinton
is no longer president. He is, so Clinton can't be
impeached at this point. But I think that if there
is evidence in the emails, I don't understand why he
would be doing this one eighty That's all I can't
(30:32):
That's when I can't fathom at this point.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
The one one thing I'm a little worried about is
what's going to you know, if he says if it
comes out and he will signed for some you know reason,
what's going to happen to the ballroom, all the things
that he destroyed at the White House, what is going
to happen to.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
That the ballroom? Well, the ballroom I think is still
going to be built. He claims that there's private funding
so forth, So that would be the least of his
problems as far as I'm concerned, Satch. Well, you know, look,
I appreciate you offering a theory on it.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
It's a different if you have to notice it. Yp
Morgan cheez. They were also backed off from donating money
for the ball room.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I didn't, Yeah, I did not, but.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
Was also listed on the Epstein fire.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah again, I haven't read all the emails. If that's true,
that's fine. I don't know. Okay, I'm seriously, I I
you've been called before, You're always reliable, so that's that's fine.
But yeah, I I have I have not heard that.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay, my el is still.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
You know, we can't call it a Trumps small room
after you know, ya again, that's the least of this
will be, you know, that's the least of this.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's the least of his problems. Uh. If if this,
if this stuff, if this evidence here, ASATCHI I gotta
let you run because I'm flat out of time. So
let me let you run and I'll talk. So thank you,
say thank you. Coming right back on Nightside after the breakup,
three calls, going to get them all in. I promise.
My name is Dan Ray and this is night Side.
(32:35):
Why has Donald Trump done one hundred on the Epstein emails.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's night Side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
All let me go to my friend John and Pennsylvania.
John is no fan of Donald Trump. John, I'm interested
into what you think is his reason for doing a
one eighty on the Epstein emails.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Oh right, Well, I think the real and it was
clear once he wasn't able to get Nouran, Bobot or
Nancy Mayce to change their vote on the issue, then
he simply got ahead of a political defeat, because otherwise
the House Republicans would have been seen as voting in
favor in defiance of him. Now that being said, he
made a rather shrewd move by ordering Pam Bondi to
(33:22):
launch investigations into certain prominent Democrats, including Bill Clinton and
Democratic Party donors, because that way she could say that
there's a no on going investigation which will limit certain
files from being released, and then that would go all
the way to the Supreme Court. Now, I'm going to
(33:44):
say one thing that may or may not surprise you.
I don't think Donald Trump was one of the wealthy
and powerful men that partook of the underage girls that
Epstein was pimping out. I do think there's obviously material
that would be embarrassing to him. Regarding his relationship with Epstein.
(34:09):
I think more in the sense that, like a lot
of very powerful influential people that had so called friendships
or business relationships with Epstein, they had to be on
certain a certain level turning a blind eye to what
they should have known was vile conduct on his part.
(34:32):
I don't know if you saw there was a recent
article that appeared in The Times about the relationship of
City Bank and JP Morgan and their their financial partnerships
with with with Epstein, and how they made exception after
exception after exception, even when he was opening accounts in
(34:57):
the names of what they should have recognized were underad girls.
I mean, it need not have been criminal, but it was.
It was unethical, it was he was just almost the
(35:19):
level of gross it's from the wrong term, but gross negligent.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah. Let me let me say this, John, there's nothing
that you have said tonight that I disagree with, by
the way, and I think that, uh, you know, if
if if, for example, the the so called birthday card
that Trump sent to Epstein, which was the the silhouette
of a of a woman, the very suggestive you know
birthday card. Now, you know have guys sent birthday cards,
(35:48):
but that was one that's hand drawn.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
That's that's that's that's not we agree.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
We agree he wrote and sent it, right, I don't
know agree, I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Look, I don't know. Okay, I don't know. I'm as
a lawyer, I always want to I can't tell you
that I know he sent it, and I that's just
for me. It's a step too far. Do I think
he could have sent it? Yeah? Do I think that
it looked like his signature? Yeah? But would I like
to see that to be evaluated by a more serious
(36:23):
person who could who could determine the bona fides of
the document?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
But anyway, look, I got three others, John, I got
to go to let me leave it with you too.
Normally get more more time. But I think he made
good points, and I'm in agreement with you tonight as Frankly.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
Uh yeah, if you if you look at Epstein's history,
this look, he got opportunity after opportunity after opportunity. The
man was highly intelligent. He dropped out of college after
one year, and yet he kept getting opportunities with high
level people and high Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
No, no, this got this guy was this guy was
was providing something. There's no question, no question. I gotta run.
I got to run. But call back and we'll have
a further conversation on Thank you very quickly. I'm going
to try my best here. We got Mike and Quincy.
Mike next on Nightside.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Go ahead, Hey, Dan, I just got a quick statement
in question.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
My steament is.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Like I so, I'll tell my question is what you know?
What Harvey said is that.
Speaker 10 (37:27):
If you are friends with Epstein, you know that's something
that you shouldn't be afraid ashamed of. Isn't being friends.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
With Epstein something you should be afraid of? It should
be ashamed of?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Well, I think that at this point, I think again
it's what did what did you know? And it obviously
back what did you know? And when did you know it?
I mean, if you thought that this was a guy
who was gallivanting around town, uh, and was somebody who
was picking up people's dinners and uh and he was
he was, you know, well connected all of that. The
first that you realize that this guy was someone's I
(38:04):
think it was John's words here, pimping out underage girls.
I think at that point it's like Kryptonite time. It's like,
get me away from this guy.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Okay, I think, excuse me, I agree with you.
Speaker 10 (38:16):
If Trump is implicated at all in this, he's like
the biggest idiot to ever step foot into the White House.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Like, so allow this to happen, like to release all
that stuff, like and if you're incriminated.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly, that's exactly. Yeah, absolutely a great point, Patrick,
rather than Mike. I got a screwed here. Let me
grab two more real quickly. Okay, thank you, all right,
thank you, good I thank you. Tim. I gotta split
a minute, you and Patrick, go ahead, go ahead. Tim.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
I don't know anything about that Trump and the Epstein thing,
but I called to wish you a wonderful thanksgiving you
in yours.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Well we will talk between now and next Thursday. But
if we don't, happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Thanks Tim,
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Patrick. I got about thirty for you, buddy. You called Lake, go.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Ahead, got it?
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Got it?
Speaker 9 (39:05):
So Dan. A lot of emails have been leaked out
in the last week. We're gotten Epstein and numerous several
of them indicate emails from him, to Maxwell and to
others that Trump could not be broken. In other words,
you could read between the lines of Trump was not
one of the people who was caught up in this
(39:25):
copabat operation, so that those are out there separately, you know.
In terms of why do you think he broke I
think finally he's just like, I can't defend this anymore
and I'm gonna let it go. You know, I have
to wonder was he being pressured by the Israeli lobby
to keep this suppressed as long as he could and
he finally broke on it. What do you think of that?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Dan? I think the Israeli lobby is is way too far.
That's that that's that's a reach that is way beyond
anything that I would even think of. But I got
to run for now, Patrick and later this week. Thanks
all right, good night, where everybody, Rob Brooks, great job,
busy night. Thanks all the callers, my guest, Reverend Kevin Peterson,
(40:12):
all my callers tonight, and Marita done for the night.
I'll end us always. All dogs, all cats, all pets
go to heaven. That's my pal Charlie Rays, who passed
fifteen years ago in February that's where all your pets
are who have passed. They love you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. We'll see again
tomorrow night at nightside. Have a great Tuesday. Everybody, stay warm,
it's chilly out there. It's chilly. I'll see on Facebook
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