2997: The Best Podcast In The World

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I listen to The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast because
Rod and Karen A.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hi, Welcome to another episode of The Black Guy Who
Tells Podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm your host, Rod, joined us always.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
By my co host, and we're live on a Saturday morning,
ready to do feedback. This the episode you've all been
waiting for where we talk about what you had to
say throughout the week, about what we had to say
throughout the week. We find out you know, what your
opinions are, what guests you like, You email your voicemail,
you leave comments on our website, you leave comments on

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the YouTube.

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We're gonna cover them all.

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Bullet and bullet ball extreme.

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does it matter. We give you a shout out, and
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Speaker 1 (01:09):
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Speaker 3 (01:14):
Rod and Karen, we welcome the good folks who tied
to the black tips.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
New donations, new salutations. Let's talk about the people that
took the time out to hit us up with that monetary.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
We love it.

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Laura F recurring Chris from Hawaii, April G.

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Corey de Tiicula, Alexis H.

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Marlon B. Yes, Marlon B.

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Wong go from down Under, Good day mate, Tanya asked,
and Tiffany b.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
They all hit us.

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Up this week and put a little change in our pocket,
little coin behind our ear, and said, what's this.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's a magic trick. Thank you, Thank you?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
All right, and we got some new five star reviews.
Got too young, Hey, I like that. The first one
is from Joy fl Dutch at sixteen, who says, simply
the best. Don't know how I found y'all, but I'm
glad I did. I love all your segments. My favorite
segments are the show recaps, political opinions and fuck it

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with Black People long barbershop version intro.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, fel five, did this thing come on a op?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I love Karen's passion when she gives out Juck Harris.
Thank you Roder Karen for being you and sharing it
with us. Signed Future premium member, joy okay.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Come on through Fruiture Premium member, come on behind the
pay walls, speaking into existence.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
And the last one is from Greatness g R eight
nests zero zero, who says I had to come and
drop a second review. I love this show so much
for y'all's insight and levelheadedness about things going on in
the world. Your breakdown of VP Harris's media bliss his
spot on. I agree with everything you said, and I
also think the brilliance of it forces Trump and this

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decline in state to be in front of cameras and
microphones more frequently, hopefully exposed to further the people who
claim to still be on the fence right even more important,
not more importantly, but even I wouldn't even have predicted this.
He's not doing interviews, he's dropping out of interviews, showing
that he's the more older infirmed candidate, and he's saying

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how he's like part of the reason is people are
saying exhaustion, and it's like, yeah, because she's putting on
a full court press and she's everywhere that the candidate
supposed to be and he's, you know, he can't even
do a handful of interviews in a day.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
You know, this travel thing is killing.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Him, right, And the thing is people under estimate how
much she's been traveling since she started this, Like every
day she's literally in another state, another county, you know,
sometimes several places within the same day, within the same state,
sometimes within the same day, depending on you know, what
she's doing and where she's going. And it's one of

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those things where it's consistent flying, probably consistent fatigue, like
it has to be just on anybody period. But with
you being younger, her being younger, you're able to You
just have more energy.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
To be able to do things like that. And the
thing is, I'm.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Gonna keep it real. Trump don't take care of herself.
And that was about to do with it too. Yes
he's old, but shit, he motherfucker eat McDonald's every day
and shit like that.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like you can't take that.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
You can't eat like that and consume and treat your
body so poorly and expect to be able to do
a full.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Court press across this whole country. That's not happening.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, part of me wonders if he'd even be running
if if it wasn't for all legal cases in him,
thinking that it's a way out he would. I like,
if I win, I don't have to face the consequences
of my actions, because I think that's the only He
doesn't really seem to have any presidential plan other than
I'm a white guy who hates all the people you hate.
And I mean in America, that's still close enough to

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get forty seven percent of the vote. So it's not
like it's not like as far as crazy for him
to think that. But yeah, all right, let's get into
the comments on our episodes. Episode twenty nine ninety three
was Apia Appreciation.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
That was the title. We had twelve comments. Let's see.
Sean says, love the show art.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
The show art was a bit moji I believe of
me and Karen breakdancing. Apia says, Okay, I'm officially coming back.
Just that, just that you know, it was not an act.
When I that I wanted to leave, I didn't think
it was act. I'm aware that the podcast is mostly
black space, and I'm a guest here. I'm a guest
who wants to behave be respectful, help other guests to

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have a good time, and I was afraid I somehow
behaved in a way that was not like that because
of some blind spots in my mind. Now really overwhelmed
with all the love I got with a ride, I
see it as my duty to continue take this angry lady.
I have a mandate now, and I even send you
some love. I wish you the feeling of support I
got here to see how good it feels. And as
a bonus, I give you the second black Doro Thea story.

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I was, as I said at a medical convention, my
company is the big dog. Even if our booth was small,
other smaller ones want to cooperate. A white lady from
a startup visited us, looked at my name tag and said, oh,
we also have a door THEA in our team. It's
a rare, rather rare name here. Twenty minutes later, the
other Doro Thea came to say hi, and it was

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again a tall black doctor Dorothea. I thought, what the
fuck I need to tell it on the black out
tips asap. Oh wait, she was very sweet and we
talked and she added me on LinkedIn.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I noticed we went to the same university.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Next day, she came by again and said, meeting yesterday
with the highlight of my day.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
You are so funny. Cool something else. I joke. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I hear this constantly. Hahi, As she said in your case,
I believe it. What the fuck again, did someone someone
of you send her? But how in the name they
proudly did? I think it's just the black autips is big.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
What doroth is? I think if you number one in
the market, search all.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
The doroth is is and need doing survey of them
and say, what's the number one podcast amongst all the
doroths in the world, we gotta be top five.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Come on top five and not number five.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Aaron says, appy, I've only ever found your feedback to
be charming and funny. Glad you're sticking around, I've just said.
She also said, oh, same university we could have met before.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Oh you sweet, sweet doctor Dorothea.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'm ten years older than you, but I'm sure we
could if you visit the local university with your high
school maybe or something else to see last gen x's
generation study. Uh yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad that you didn't.
You know, I'm never gonna tell somebody stay a place
where they don't feel comfortable, right I don't you know,
that's not my thing. But we personally have no issue.

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We we didn't say get the fuck out, We didn't
have a problem. We're not being annoyed, and honestly, we're
the host of the shows. I hope that counts for something.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I hope we can vote.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Like I said, people don't universally like me and Karen
and they listen to the shows.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
So I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Just some motherfuckers is just you know, they don't fuck
with you, and it's not much you can do.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
And I'm okay with that. I take my happy country
talking as an about my business and you got it.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, we don't.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
It's not like we tell people, you know, yeah, we're
just being ourselves. It's not like we're trying to come
on here and start some shit. And I think I
feel the same from you. And honestly, if we felt
that it was annoying or bad or whatever, we would say.
So it's not and it's not in a mean way.
But we've had listeners that tried to like take over

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the show in their own ways, and we figure out
ways to mitigate that. Because if it's not fun for us,
we'll assume it's not fun for the audience. But if
it's fun for us. I'm the three thousand episodes. I'm
assume that it's fun for somebody else in the audience
to move on.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
TV says I can't.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Even fight, but I would fight anyone who made Apia leave.
Glad they didn't run you off, Apia, Aaron says.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Teeth by tisa lol.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Also Karen Corn the New Phrases episode, singing to the choir,
I love it.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Hah. I didn't realize that's what I said. She did
say that. I meant preaching.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Roner Raphael says last week, I was stuck in another
dimension so couldn't respond to the voicemail about Apia as
an unofficial black German. Let me say this to Apia
niecks out leave for Adiche.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
If you were.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Nicer to the middle names, right, I would have written
it in English. Make sure you add the oomp to
your voice.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Ha ha.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Ron Raphael, you might need him to go. Like Apia
is fine but starting to get a little spicy. There's
enough run American dad, there's enough room to love Apia.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
And those are middle names here, I disagree.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
In fact, it's time to announce my next cruise with
a Carnival, and it's to Germany. Hit me up for
a special Blackoutists discount. We shall be selling on the
cruise ship known as the BBL Piece no Veneer service
on this cruise fixed before showing up. If you want
to party, I know two Colombians. Apia is my piece.
Back to singing through the good cane out all right,

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Pam Shoe Boody says Apia is an absolute delight. Whoever
doesn't agree could go kick rocks. One of my good
memories from the dark times of the pandemic is facetiming
with Apia while we were both taking our kids on
get Another nature walk.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
To pass the time. Apia is good people.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I hope she felt more love to hate when it
comes to Appy Appreciation Day, which we will now celebrate
every time.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Twelve Hell just replaced Columbus Day with Apia Day.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah I think they already replaced with Indigenous People Day,
but yeah, ten twelve should work, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Ipia says, love it.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
It was really cool. I felt I feel pretty great
honestly now. That's dope. Classic R and B lover says
high Ride Karen and hopefully Apia. I was a little
behind on episodes this week and wanted to comment on
two things. First, I'm so proud of the black Aul
to his family who came out and still ten towns down.
For Apia, I was so hurt on her behalf when
I heard that needlessly cruel voicemail. I, like many others,

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enjoy Opia's feedback. I enjoy Apia so much that when
she is not the first response, I'm like, oh, no,
what happened? I hope Opia is all right right now?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
She okay? Like what happened? Did they take you away?
It was like, you won't be the first one today.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, And honestly, I'm really proud of the audience too,
because I you know, I was telling Caring this off
the air between shows, but after we did this show,
we talked about that voicemail because it was, you know,
a bit disturbed to us because we don't cultivate that vibe.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
On the show. It was very unexpected more than anything.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, and it's not like we screamed the voicemail, like
we literally just didn't know that it was just gonna take.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
A detour like that.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
But I said, I told her, And this is like
Saturday or whatever. So a week ago or two weeks ago,
I guess at this point, but I was like, I
think the audience will step up and be like, nah,
we fuck with Apia, you know, And I was, you know,
I felt affirmed by the fact that people did. You know,

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I think there's a difference. We're not because I wanted
to draw a fine line, like I'm not trying to
turn this into a space where like there's some level
of protection around a white person for being white and
listening to our show. I don't think it's any big
whoop for someone to be white and listen to our show.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
We're a pretty popular show.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
We got people of all kinds of denominations that listen
to our show. We did, so that's and I don't
want to turn this into like a.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Y'all leave miss it ain't alone, you.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Know, because I hate that vibe and it seems it
makes it feel dismissive of the black people that listen
to the show. When you do stuff like that, I've
heard other podcasts do that, you know, it's the reason
we don't. You know, someone writes in and we don't
be like, oh, a white person rolled in. I can't
believe it, Like.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
What they don't got ears?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
What we only funny the black people we only make
sense to black people that don't so anyway. But I
do want our space to be a space where like,
if you come with a positive attitude, it'll be returned
to you. Yeah, And that meant a lot to me
to see that people weren't just hopping on some like

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it was like, nah, she don't mean no harm. She's
just being funny and it's not even like she don't
mean no harm and there like well she always says
something fucked up, but she don't mean no harm. Like no,
she's here saying getting along just fine, like like isn't
If there's any level of correction and misunderstanding of communication.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
We do it on the mic, right.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
So I was glad that people did that because I
think that is the testament of our artists. That's the
kind of audience we have, and I think it would
have happened just about for any listener.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
So if someone left some mean shit.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
About Eve, I feel like people would be like, what
the fuck right? And the thing I think people the hardest.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Thing for people to not understand.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
The thing that hard that people can't understand if they've
never done what we're doing. The feedback people are representative
of this much much larger audience that will never write
into our show. Yeah, so when they don't understand something,
when they write a joke, when they want us to
revisit the topic, whatever it is. They represent some other

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people out there who also think the same thing, but
maybe a little too intimidated write in, maybe too busy, whatever,
And if without them, this would not be an episode.
There's so many podcasts in this world who can't do
a feedback show because no one gives a fuck what
they're talking about, no one taps in, no one wants
to say anything to them. They haven't fostered an environment

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that will make it comfortable for people to write in
to contribute. We're one of a few shows that can
really do this on a consistent basis and have a
long ass show every Saturday with people just saying, hey,
I always want to check in.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
And I was a big part of that.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
It this moment and so you know, I think the
absence would be felt beyond just like she made one
comment I didn't like, well, she also made a bunch
of other comments that people do, like, so what are
we doing right?

Speaker 4 (15:29):
And also the thing is, and you do break up
a big thing and somebody who listened to a lot
of different shows.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
A lot of shows don't read.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Feedback, don't comment on feedback, even though they get feedback.
We actually I remember when we first started, the feedback
used to be a part of a regular show, but
then it got so big that we actually decided to
separate it out and it went from you know, maybe
a twenty to thirty minute show to y'all know something.

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You know, sometimes we walk around for our feedback show
because y'all have so much to say, and we're commenting
on what y'all.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Saying, and it's very.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
I guess it's very important to me to know that
you know, we're doing this and there are people out
there that really enjoy what we do, and we will
continue to do this as long as we can.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Second, congrats to Karen on purchasing Tinah Hazey Coach audio book.
I know how hard it can be the branch out
of your particular favorite genre. So to hear how much
Karen is enjoying the message made me smile. My long
drive to and from work means that I spend my
mornings listening to audio books. I listen to Karen Hunter
on the way home so, Karen, Yes, it is a
form of reading. It is just non traditional, so don't

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put yourself down for it. If you had a vision
problem or arthritis, you would not diminish how you became
exposed to the author's work. To an author's work, I
have the audible plan where I get twenty four credits
a year, both other perks that often end up with
me getting additional credits because I love books that much.
Reading and exposure start somewhere, and that always has me.

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As for listeners who commented that they leave their credits
for the longer books, I get it. I tend to
make exceptions for black authors because we know how they
do us. We always need three times the pre sales
and first week sales for our book to be dean
worthy of production.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
EV says Rod, why are you surprised that I like Appia?
She's awesome?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well, it's just that there's so many there's so many
other awesome people you hate, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
So I just I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I mean, I mean, you hate Henry to this day.
You know you won't even let him redeem himself, you
know how you do? They were like, Nope, Honestly, there
are a handful of listeners whose feedback I enjoy, like
Mss Smart Brooklyn, Shoe Babe, Leonard Brothers, Profess Prop Corey,
and Ronald Raphael.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
There are more, but I'm forgetful.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
But honestly, the fact that you have so many thoughtful
listeners with great feedback is reflection of the show. The
manuscript podcasts attract trash opinions because they're trash, but the
black Out Tiss is top tier with top tier listeners.
Thank you, EV, And I assume that goes for the hostess,
you know, regardless of the RBS slander. Miss one Ko says,

(18:08):
I'm late, but I also saw the title thought, oh no,
what happened to IP? I'm glad she's okay, and I
echo the love for her commentary. I also, I too
am Also I also I too am tired of behalf
of Ride with people policing his face in real time.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Lo o l.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
They want to make you the mean husband for some reason.
We love the authenticity of it, right, I don't get.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
It, bag like you the Wicked with you the West?
What's happening? They think I'm mister from Color Purple? Like
what do y'all think is happening in this house. What
am I the background looking at him like you do
right by me?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
No, me being mister not you. Oh oh yeah yeah, yeah,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yes, they think I'm I'm fucking abusive or something. It's crazy.
Look at your face.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Calm down, everybody, stop stop writing that bullshit. We got
comments on YouTube girl. Ironically, his comment is about this,
please stop explaining yourself true fans of the show. No,
I love fut related comments. So I guess he's saying
he loves Opia's comments and maybe me to stop explaining

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the whole thing with my face.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
And all this shit.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I mean I was so in this case. I
wasn't really explaining it to those fans anymore. I was
just trying to use it as a branch to tell Apia, Hey,
I know what this feels like. I'm the host of
the show and people will do weird shit and be
coming at me, and you're You're a person leaving feedback,

(19:42):
so obviously it can happen to you too, is my
whole point, right? Uh Cmgter said sound was actually fine
this episode.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Music wasn't a muffler or anything.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, when I think I figured it out when it's
just me and Karen, I can switch the music mode, which.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I forgot to do today. I'll switch this now.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
But when it's just me and Karen, I can switch
to this music mode and it makes the sound and
the music and all the instrumentals and stuff play better
on YouTube later. But when we have a guest, I
can't do it because they'll get an echo.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
It'll be weird.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
And I think also sometimes when it's just us, if
I try to play like a news article or something
from another tab in my browser, I think sometimes then
the sound will be weird. For the audience who is live, well,
they'll get like a bunch of echoes and stuff. So
we're trying to figure it out, but you know, we're
doing the best we can. Glad thank you seem Jeter

(20:36):
for let me know, because the person that complained about
it never even tapp to let me know, which.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Is just how fucking people are.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Candy says, I was thinking the same thing as that
as the lines Zetta. Netflix is going to blame the
fallout from the Oh okay, yes, the woman who left
the voicemail what she said that Netflix is trying to
act like because they're supporting Kamala Harris. Their subscription numbers

(21:03):
are going down, but she was like, it's probably just
them raising the price and people, not people canceling their service.
Netflix is trying to blame the fileout from the price
increase on support of VP Harris. Also not the price,
just the price increase. With the service quality is getting poor.
I'm seeing more issues with programs load and crashing since
they updated the monthly plans. Well, I've watched Netflix. I've
been watching it a lot lately to watch like lower

(21:25):
Croft Tune Raider. I haven't had any service issues, but
I will say I I can't put it past them
that they would say, like blame all the losses on that.
But at the same time, I can't put it past
racist ass white people that in these Republicans that they
would cut the cord because specifically of Kamala Harris support.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
They have their own entire fucking weird world over there, right,
it's not reality.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
And then JV City put a minute mark on the
show twenty four forty three to twenty four to fifty six.
It says perfectly said, this is why I'm here. I
like to engagement with Appia keep writing in you have
been chose Lol, Rider Kara, thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
The exact nature of the clip was. I'll see if
I can find it on here. Okay, emotional boundaries sometimes,
and a lot of times the fuel and the energy
for those boundaries is anger. And so I think that's
one of the reasons people are have to stay so
angry at Kanye is because they actually loved and defended

(22:34):
what Kanye was doing to start his career in a
way that I think the only way to remind themselves
to not feel that way about him is to stay
angry at him. And I just mostly feel sad about
what happened when Okay, yeah, Kanye thoughts, thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
And that's something that me and Roger talk about offline, because,
like I said, I try to be aware of it.
Most of the time, I don't have part based in anger,
but there are a few things that I do and
I didn't realize it until the point of out. I
have a real hard line where I'm like, oh fuck no,
and anger will just arise in me and I.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Need to be aware of that and alert of that
type of thing.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
And a lot of times people don't realize these things
because it's like, that's just how it is. But no,
you can know something and be aware of it and
adjust yourself accordingly to it and determine at that time
is this situation based off of the anger or is
it based off of what's really happening, because sometimes that

(23:37):
anger is not justified for the infraction. So, you know,
I had to learn how to balance, you know, that act,
and a lot of times it comes from quote unquote
not wanting to be hurt again. But I've come to
the realization life is full of hurt, like it just is,
you know. And the thing is, you know, you don't
live until you hurt, because once you hurt, you can

(23:59):
apprecihaate the good things in your life because you realize
what it is to be without these things and how
it feels to go through the things to get to
the other side, at least.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
For me, Levetta says, come in here to add to
the api of love. I personally love Opia's insights into
how Americans are being perceived across the Pond, as well
as her pov as a German white woman being hard
fired at the possibility that America's about to make the
same past mistakes her countrymen made after you. Please keep
comment and adding your delightful two cents every week. I
would personally be very sad if you went silent. Besides,

(24:30):
at this point, you're part of the show with an
embossed invitation to the cookout, and everybody here knows it
not the cookout invite.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
What come on through cookout invite? Don't let that caller
here that it's gonna get ugly. You know that they
don't like the blacks don't like that.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, you can come in. We ain't even gonna get
you your go plate. You can actually come in and
eat with it.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Welcome listen. We'll give you an invite for doing the lease.
That's the best white privilege in the game.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Come on doing the least.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
It's like she wrote into a feedback show, Come on
to the cookout. You you over here now, Karen's typical
DJ radio host voice took me out, says JT Dread.
Another user says loo all, I knew the Appia slander
were not staying for real. For real, I tune in
for the thoughtful commentary of you and your listeners, including Apia.

(25:32):
Would hate for people to be discouraged from calling in
the community y'all have built is awesome and welcome and
please keep it up.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Like I said, I feel solidified and supported by that.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I appreciate y'all saying that. It's like.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
It means something to me because I'm glad that it's
a reflection on the audience that we're not one of
these spaces. And I think, I mean, each space is different,
but I find the overrot performative blackness that people have
online where it's like it's almost comicable comical.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Sometimes the way people perform blackness.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
And I'm not saying there's no black people like this,
but it's kind of weird when you run into black
people that are like, we don't want no.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
White people listening.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
We don't want them white, Then we don't want them,
don't you even Like I don't, like I'm not in
a different kind of way. I feel like you're giving
too much power to them when you do that, Like,
I'm not, They're not occupying my every thought. It's not
I don't need to cultivate the space without them. I
don't want to do to them what they did to
us or whatever people think that means.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I just literally, hey, if you're a chill.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Person, cool vibes, you can come in, read the room
and fit in. Some people need to be escorted out.
We will do this escorting out. That's it just doesn't
have to do anything. So yeah, I'm glad that people
said that.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Joh I love Security Child. I love the Security episode
twenty four.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
That green envelope is we had Ray sne On, our
friend and comedian writer, and we just talked about a
lot of different stuff and we y'all left a bunch
of comments. Yeah, I feel like Rai's kind of family
because normally we have a guest, y'all leave like no
comments that we ain't got nothing to say. It was good,
But if y'all leave eight comments, it's like she's just

(27:35):
like the third co host that day.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Brooklyn shoe bab It says, I'm fifty two years old.
I'm born and raised Brooklyn Night. I was a commuter
college student and a grass student. I'm an NYC through
and through, but I've hardly seen or been to the
touristy sites because I had such bad asthma as a kid,
I wasn't allowed to.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Go on school trips to the tourist attractions.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Over the past three years, I've made it a point
to go to museum's historical districts and all the different
breaches and the like.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'm now okay with doing things along.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I realize that I've been waiting for friends or lovers
to join me and accomplish nothing. Accomplished nothing Second Adolescents
for the wear and loved when Rayizoon I love Ellie.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
You know what, I one hundred percent agree. I used
to be like that.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
I used to be a person that was like, if
I wanted to do something, somebody else quote unquote had
to be with me or had to go with me.
But I got to the point where I say, I'm
hungry now and you're not. I'm not waiting on you
like I, uh go out to eat by myself with
new problem. And the thing is when you do that,
you're the insecurity is from other people that try to

(28:39):
pour it onto you. Dad like you need a fucking friend,
or you're there because you're sad or depressed.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
They're going do it.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
No, bitch, I just want to eat a goddamn middle alone.
You know what I'm saying, Quit projecting on me. Whatever
insecurity is that you have about somebody eating alone or
being going to the movies by themselves alone, which I've
done before, going.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Shopping by the like.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
I have done a lot of things kind of by myself,
and I'm okay doing this.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
When we was in New York and Roger was.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Working, Child, I was all over the city, I was
uh uh. I went to the museums, I went all
over the place by myself and didn't have a problem
doing these things at all, because what I've realized child,
waiting on somebody else, you won't get shit done sometimes
depending on what you want to do and not try
to be funny. Sometimes you got the money, other other

(29:29):
motherfuckers don't. Bitch, I ain't got time for you to
waste for you to get your coins together. I want
to go now, and my coins is great, so I'm
gonna go ahead and have a good time without you.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
That last far sounded kind of mean.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, bitch, my friend that want to do shit with me,
get your coins together.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
No for me.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I do think you know, doing stuff alone is valuable.
I also think a lot of stuff is like macro
micro stuff. Like it's just like like Karen said, going
out to eat or going like I go to the gym.
I go by myself, don't. I don't need this to
be like a group project or whatever. I go walking
a lot of times. I mostly walk by myself. At

(30:07):
this point, it's fine. And then also revisiting stuff I
think it would have been wasted on you as a
kid anyway. So like as a kid, everyone's forced to
go on the field trips.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
You'all roll in your eyes. Everybody pretends like they don't
want to be there, like it's not a big deal.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
It's just a field trip that is part of going
to school. But as an adult, when you choose to
do those things, that you're going with the full knowledge
of an adult and the full appreciation of it. And
I think there's a difference even if you did go
as a kid, maybe revisit some of those places if
you as an adult, just to kind of be like, oh, yeah,
I see what it is. So I feel you on

(30:45):
that and to revise what I said. You make me
sound like I mean, no, you do not sound mean.
When you ended that, you was like you getting get
joke onins together because I will go without you.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
You definitely sounded mean. It's not me projecting making it mean. Okay, okay,
let me know.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
It was just making a joke observation. You don't actually
need to clean it up, but go ahead, O. Let
me rephrase that. Sometimes when you want to do things
that might require like traveling and things like that, sometimes
people don't have the money.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
And I get it.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
So sometimes you'd be like, well, I want to go
such such a and people can't afford it for whatever reason,
not knocking them for that, they can't afford it, and
so the person that can't afford to go just won't go.
And so I'm like, well, you go ahead and go
and have a good time, you know what I'm saying, And.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Like, don't wait on them to get that thing out.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I know, I knew what you were saying the whole time.
It was just funny how you said it with so
much intensity and.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
The word yeah. I didn't want them to be like,
for goddamn, can you calling me poor? I know I
wasn't calling you poor baby? All right?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Uh Rona Rafael says, we go to the shan Bergson
at least once a year, all the way from Brooklyn
because there's a black comic con that happens there, and
that's my shit.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Been taking my kids since she was a baby.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Last I also attended an African film event that someone
I had connected with the Algeria informed me about his
movie was playing in the same venue. He couldn't get
a visa to attend, unfortunately, so I went in support,
although I had seen the film before the screening. It
was a documentary about a few black panthers who moved
to Algeria after America got too hot for them, and

(32:21):
how they were able to settle and carry on until
things fell apart with the then Algerian president.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
It wasn't a large crowd.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
It was mad, entertained when the White Devil was muttered
by a man near me, and I noticed head shaking.
When the movie ended, everyone applied it. I told my
friend that algiers the reaction. He was crying and enjoy
that his film resonated with a black audience. Black Panthers
of Algeria is the title. It is on YouTube now
a lot of French and Arabic spoken with English. FYI

(32:51):
never a delevant in Schanberg. I needed ten more events there.
Sean says ebony is a super dense hardwood sinks in
water that is not black in color. Is possibly the
most valuable wood in the world, but it's getting close
to extinction due to overuse. A famous literary reference is
the Ebony clock and Edgar Allen Poe's Mask of the
Red Death. I've just says my industry rarely tried the

(33:14):
AI thing and turning everything digital. The good news is
it's not I guess really tried. Okay, it's not working
at all. My job combined science, relationship management, the sales,
and the relationship management is about eighty percent of it.
The important scientist doctor doesn't want to interact with a machine.
They ignore it and demand a human, a person they
ideally already know and have good experiences with.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Right, good for my employment.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Right, and also all jokes aside. A lot of times
with the AI shit, companies act like human beings don't
interact with computers all the time.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Most do.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
And if you can interact with any type of computer,
any type of system and shit like that, you know,
it crashes. It doesn't work all the time. Shit, don't
do what you got what you want to do. And
a lot of times, guess what you're gonna have to
teach people?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
People?

Speaker 4 (33:59):
I don't want to fucking learn curve, I got degrees.
I barely know how to transfer ship in the portal
that I do have because most people are humans are lazy.
So it's like most people aren't going to do anything
that they are not required to do, and so it's
easier for them to talk to.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
A person, have that person do all the computer shit
for them.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Any trans do whatever they need to do, and they
can just stay in there in their box. So you're
trying to force them to do more computer shit. People
with AI probably pull out their fucking hair because they're like, hey, dog,
like why don't you just log and why don't you
just do this? And people are like, no, bitch, come
make me. And so for a lot of people that.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Were like, no more interactions unless I unless I have to. Yeah,
even when I just as a customer service like car,
even when I get one of.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
The customer customer service.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
AI robot whatever, I'd rather have a human the whole time. Yes,
it's not actually making it more efficient or better. They
normally can't.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Solve your problem, and a lot of.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Times they just make it so that when the human
gets on a lot that have to ask you all
the same ship, the robot just ask you, it's it's
a big waste of time.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
It makes people get frustrated.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I don't know that the these people in charge, these
rich white Silicon Valley dudes and ship that that pushed
this AI revolution thing, they just basically want slave labor
and they don't value humans and humanity and what the
average human brings to a situation. And I say that

(35:27):
as a person with a pretty low regard of just
the general public from years of working with them.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
But it's still better than the fucking robot, right. And
on top of that, depend on what you do in
your job.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
A lot of people that, particularly if you work in
like accounts payable accountsil seaboo type thing a p A
are a lot of times a lot depend on what
you do because everything wants to be automated, so they
do B to B business the business you know, be
the B the D business two direct And a lot
of times a lot of your time is correcting errors
that the system made.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
You have to go in and fix.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
You have to go in and correct, you have to
go in and change, you have to go in and edit,
delete whatever these things do. So y'all, y'all made these systems,
and I mean put like this, you're gonna have to
make the correction even if it was a human being anyway,
but sometimes depend on what it is.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Because the systems are fast and quick.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Now I have to make three hundred corrections versus maybe
the twenty five that I would have had to make
with a human being that got efficient enough where they
could do it quicker and faster and actually have to
intellect to this to make sometimes quote unquote illogical decision
to with the computer, because the computers own it can
do what they programmed to do. But a person could

(36:37):
be like, oh, they could use their critical thinking skills
where they go they look at the situation.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Where oh, well I want to do this. I'll do
this because it is in the system like reject, reject, reject,
and now you have to fix whatever it rejected.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
And so I'm like you, you just want free labor,
and then and then and then you want the computers
to do the free labor, and then you want the
slaves to fix whatever the free labor fucked up, and
you want to pay them less than what you would
have paid them if they would have been in the
mix from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, Ultimately it all leads back to just not paying
people for the work they do, right, sada O says,
do I diddy you a whole mess of joy rolling
on through like a train full of laughter. I'm sitting
here chuckling so hard I fell on the floor, and
then you came barreling in with more. That title The
Green Envelope sparks curiosity. It's a delightful mix of authenticity

(37:23):
and share absurdity. You've got a knack for finding merriment
and everything. I appreciate you for bringing a smile to
my soul. Keep shining. That might be AI.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I don't I feel like.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
The person AI hears talking about it was like, oh, y'all,
like A, I yeah, I feel like it's trying to
treat me. Rona Ralphaiel says one more thing, shout out.
I got to shout out ray for the Eric Adams bitch.
She didn't do what many have been doing taking the
Twitter oute. A large chunk of his supporter is black
and Latino. If you listen to FAQ the NYC, which
I can't recommend enough, local journalists who have been on

(37:58):
the scene forever point out the air big media makes
while covering Adams and how he's smart, and his smart
use of that, I guess how he's smart to use that.
Plus they go beyond exposing him. They also show how
he can still get a second term. That that press
conference where everyone was laughing at the dashiki wearing peeps
was a coded threat at a governor who is not

(38:19):
in a strong position that you need my supporters.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
That would me.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Cuomo and the GOP main candidate have said that they
won't run against Adams. He's not scared of liberals. They
don't come out to vote in numbers. Plus four liberal
candidates have already declared for the mayor race. The guys
at FAQ NYC, especially professor Christina Greer, check out her
interview on Frontline the Choice twenty four breakdown. Eric Adams

(38:45):
excellently that once you set aside the Twitter noise is
clear that if the left doesn't get its act together
and unite, we probably end up with mayor Cuomo, except
he goes for governor. I was at a networking event
organized by a popular group of black men in the
city last week on Eric Adams, and the leader was
trying to throw shade at Kamala Harris and a bunch
of them are Haitians too, including the leader. Shit is

(39:07):
wold faq N YC is the only place that correctly
pointed out after mile while he said defund the police
on the debate stage, it was over. I voted for her,
but it wasn't even close. Yeah, the defund candidate has
lost a lot of places and nobody wants to talk
about it because that Twitter in real life are just
not the same as Yeah, slogan isn't the same as

(39:28):
having policies and making people feel comfortable with those policies.
And uh, I can tell the people some of those
slogans are just there to shut down critical thinking and
to shut down any level of resistance or retort or
back further questions. And when it's time for people to vote,
you have to have something for that. It can't just

(39:50):
be like the Pie and the sky shit people were
saying three to four years ago, where it was like,
we just need to imagine a world with no polices,
Like to some people, that's the scariest world.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
That's scarier than the world we have. Ain't that's true.
You need to convince them.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
You can't just rhetorically throw stats at them and shit,
you need to convince them that you, as a leader,
will still have their safety in mind.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yes when it comes.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
To this stuff, because a lot of these people ended
up losing those races because the constituencies that they thought
would be all for it were like, actually no, And
some of the places where municipalities tried it, it didn't
go smooth.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
And the police are still around.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
So it is what it is, right, even he says
Ray SIGNI is always a fun guess. I thought it
was interesting to hear a New York perspective on Eric Adams.
They're going to put that man under the jail the
way I would have looked the other way off, I
saw a black maga person getting beat up by white
maga because why are you even there?

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Hell, I wouldn't even be that.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
I wouldn't be there, right, I would never see that
happen in real life. And I bet that Uncle Ruckus
Coon will probably make excuses for his attackers want white validation.
That damn much more be an illness. It is funny
that we didn't get a follow up video. That guy
doesn't have a TikTok, He never went live anywhere, didn't
get interviewed by the news. Where is that guy got
his ass. Well, I would love to hear what he thinks.

(41:11):
I know, I normally don't want to hear what any
Trump support ass to say, but his ass.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I would love to see how he rationalized.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
How you feel now his man's in them putting them
hands on his ass?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Like, what was the altercation? You know, I just need
to know.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Aj says, I have no sympathy at all for the
minority who caught those Maga hands. That individual must know
that forty five will not do anything that would benefit
blacks or their station in the world outside of that.
Indiana former Klan stronghandold and Republican supermajority. Early voting started
and I went on Tuesday morning in the place was packed.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I drove by my voting location because I didn't think
it was actually supposed to be open until later on.
And it turns out it was actually open on day one.
So there's some bad information on the internet saying that
that place isn't open at anyway, I drove by just
to see, like, should me and Karen come and vote? Like?

(42:08):
I texted Karen like, Hey, our polling place is open,
you want to just go ahead and early vote?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
I was She's like, yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
And then I drove by and when I tell y'all,
that line was out there. I haven't seen a line
like that since Obama. Like that line was out the door,
down down the sidewalk back to the parking line. And
I was like, and it was like, uh, two o'clock
on a Thursday or some shit like this.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Was not which which, Oh, this is the one, the
one that we normally go vote to vote when we were
early Okay, so the cars was like down the road
or something. I didn't say the cars.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
The line of people were all the way outside the door,
all the way to the parking line.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Oh, that was a long line.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Like I don't know exactly how many people was, but
I'd say at least forty fifty people because at first
glance and when we straight up, yeah, when we go
there to vote, there's typically not a line at all,
especially since we.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Early vote, right me, maybe me and Rogeric and the
Poland people.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Now, that could just be it was the first day,
but then I saw that everybody, a lot of those
states were reporting record turnout for early vote, So I'm
guessing it's just people are that excited and We'll try
to go again sometime during the next week during the
off time, because you know, we prefer to go when
the line is lowered rather than when it's long as hell,

(43:27):
and definitely not on the voting day. I very rarely
do that, but yeah, it was good to see people
out there because early voting typically benefits Democrats.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Yes, let's see.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
One individual and attendance had a vote early shirt and
a top hat in red and blue and all. It
took me thirty minutes to cast my vote because of
foot traffic. If this was a Tuesday in Indiana, I
can't imagine what it's like in other states.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Austin.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, because y'all state is presumably going red and still
people were early voting.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Oh shit, I just realized I didn't read the poll
for last episode. Do you attend live sporting events? Sixty
percent said yes, forty percent said no.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yes, I really enjoy a live sporting events. Years ago,
I went to a hockey game and it was actually really,
really fun. I did not realize how fun it was,
Like not the major league, but like a minor league
hockey game.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Up in Fairville, and it was really really fun.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
And it goes by fast, they actually do brawl, put
them in penalty boxes and shit.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Because before then, only time I have seen hockey was
like on TV. So for me, I was like, what
made you specifically go to hockey because you salik about
live events, live sporting event. Yes, hockey, yeah yeah, Basketball,
yes yeah, And y'all know I liked basketball, but I
was just thinking something different, you know, outside of my
normal routine basketball. I was saying, addition to basketball, that's

(44:49):
what I said, edition to basketball.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I have seen a live hockey game.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Okay, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I like live
sporting events if it's the right vibe. I'm not really
a live NFL though I've tried it a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
It's just not for me. Maybe I don't love the
game that much that I could watch it live. Yeah,
I rather watch football on TV.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Let's see five comments on our YouTube for the same episode.
Audio interludes from the previous video is a great improvement.
Do that again, says just saying three one, six one.
At this point, I have no idea, uh which one
is right?

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Not so, but thank you, thank you for trying over here.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah, Anthony says Ebony is a black wood from a tree.
Delayser says, so glad you complimented Ray. At the end
of this, I kept thinking, she looks so good. Yeah,
she looked great. You know she was out there glowing
the return of Bay Signing, says Phil agreed. Jason says, damn,

(45:52):
that's the ultimate conundrum. If you see a black Maga
getting jumped by Maga, do you try to help or
is that like the disturbing nature those National Geographic folks don't.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Say the antelope from the line.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
One problem would be if they look like Maga from
a distance, but they're just rocking the bulls hat. When
you said one dude stole five cars, I thought that
little boy from the Wire had reached his prime. Yeah, yeah, dog,
I'm not helping. Just gonna tell you right now. If
you MAGA and you get beat up by MAGA, I
don't see rights at that point, Okay, I just see

(46:25):
red and white the poe. Did you feel bad for
the black Trump supporter being beaten up by mega fans?

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yes or no? No, which means six percent did feel bad?

Speaker 2 (46:37):
And uh yeah, man, I used to be one of
those type of people, but I was. I can work.
I can cut that off now. Where I'm just like, listen,
I hate to see anybody get beat up that right,
But your ass was out here asking for it.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I mean, come up now, must have got what you
want it. Come on, you jumped in the lines then, like, damn,
the lines attacked me? Do you in the lines?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Then you shouldn't have been playing around playing them games?
All right, y'all, let's get into some more feedback. But
I'm gonna play some music here so that I can
put a commercial in later.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Psycho like.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
That was called It's Only Us, No More Enemies. I
like that one a lot of cycle music. All right,
let's check out the comments for the next episode. It
was episode nine ninety five, The Black Male Agenda six comments.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
It is a pretty serious episode, not a lot oolks
in it. But I had to get this one off
my chest.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
So I've just been seeing a lot of people talking about,
you know, everything that was happening with Barack Obama, Kamala Harris,
Breakfast Club. I've been meaning to talk about this for
a while anyway, and it just felt like as good
as time as any i'b just says last time, when
Biden stepped down, I went and prayed to the universe
for Kamala to have success and being accepted as a

(48:25):
candidate by Democrats fast.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Because I can't.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Vote in America, I will sit down and pray to
the universe again for her to win. Listen up, Universe.
I've gathered lots of good karma, I think by helping
others mostly, and I'm willing to trade it in here.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
If this is how it works, please.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Rona Rafael says this episode is just another example why
this is the best podcast in the world. As someone
who has attended a My Brother's Keeper event in the past,
I could testify that Rob was not only right, the
program also helped black veterans.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
That's how I got to participate in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Also, the group that I referenced in the Eric Adams
comment leader said something that got my ear standing. But
when Rod was reading the black mal agenda from Madam
VP made sense. He said, I told Kamala Harris campaign
that we were tired of how they were talking to
us black men when they met with us. Claims that
meeting was about three weeks ago. There was another comment

(49:21):
about p Diddy and code that made me realize that
I got to eat and bounce, So when you got
to the crypto, I just burst out laughing. Great episode
and thanks again for the breakdown. My eyes on the
big picture. Like Katok staring at Drake, no distraction could.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Turn me read. Even if the GLP buy all.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
The tickets to my cruise event, no going back a word,
and just make sure you sink the ship if they
did that, since only time you're getting permission, Sinnia said.
At fifty seven O five, Rod said, there are so
many coons and so little time. I need that on
the T shirt. I don't know if t Polo Leves
put that one out. Miami Vice ad some stars the

(50:00):
o's or something right.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Miami Vice said, Hey, Rod and Karen, this is a
great episode.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
You hit it out the park with the comments on
many minorities wanting access to whiteness, I think that's where we.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Are right now.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Along with people want to access the benefits that white
privilege affords. I think many also covered the power to
discriminate against others. I agree, yeah, and it's you know, actually,
it meant a lot to me this episode because I
actually had a home you hit me up that my
man Sam from Firestarter and like me and him. We
chat back and forth all the time about sometimes deep topics,

(50:33):
sometimes just check in with each other. And I listened
to the show at the time, and I mean, I
truly do meanness, I hold the show in high esteem
because a lot of times they sound to me like
the same type of dudes I kick it with and
grew up with and grew up around. And I know
I've always been a bit of an outlier. It might
be why our show is the reason we can have

(50:55):
a show and be this popular, is because people aren't
going to hear opinions like mine everywhere all the time,
especially from a black dude. But you know, he hit
me up and it was like, cause, like they say
stuff sometimes and I'll hit them up to be like, hey,
I appreciate y'all talking about this. I didn't think about
this perspective or y'all just kind of made me think

(51:17):
about something and realized, like, Okay, I'm kind of in
my own little silo here.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
This is actually more like what people are thinking.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Whether even if I disagree, like even if me personally
is like I would do better than that, or I
think we can do this.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
A lot of times they just kind of like this
is what people are thinking, and this is how they
got here. And I appreciate that from him. And so.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
He hit me up after this episode to say, like,
you know, he really appreciate what I was saying, and
that's when I was like, then, I think I delivered
my point in a good way.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
And that was a long a lot of talking.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
There was a lot of me talking about black men,
black male perspective and my views on it for a
good period of time. And so to have enough people
come away with appreciation for this episode, it meant a
lot to me. So thank y'all that wrote in about that.
And the white privileged thing I was trying to explain

(52:13):
at the end is something I've been trying to explain
for years. But I think sometimes I was using inflammatory
rhetoric that led more to people checking out than checking in. Right,
That's just never my goal, you know, to be the
person that gets people to walk away from a table
that I'm trying to invite them to, to get them

(52:34):
to think or to at least hear another perspective.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
So yeah, as for the.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Coons and the nonsense they spew online, I wouldn't be
surprised if it influenced Obama.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Speak on black men and voting.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
As you know, these Charlatans like to present themselves with
the voice of the black community, especially black men. The
videos are shared online and often go viral, which increases
their popularity. So now they're taking seriously. I do think
that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
I think that's the only reason, and my time they
find it. I think that's one of the reasons why
he even felt an obligation to address it.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, and I think the point I'm making is not
one of like this is why I said, I'm not
really admonishing Obama. I think that there's a bunch of
other agendas that play motherfuckers that hate him for a
bunch of different reasons.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I'm not one of those people. I'm sorry. I'm a
very realistic person. You know.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I was talking to a homie that was, you know,
kind of down on Commlin and sending me some links
about like, well, look at look at the people that
contributed to her campaign. You don't think that she's gonna
like have to owe him favors after she gets elected.
And I'm like, I don't know if people think I'm
too optimistic, but no, I'm actually much more cynical than

(53:41):
anybody that than most of the people I know. And
by cynical, I don't mean like I'm contrarian. I mean
cynical as in, I don't think you can be president
of the United States if you don't take dark money. Now,
I don't think you can be president of the United
States if you're not getting packs and fucking one percenter
and a bunch of other like if the finance demographic

(54:04):
of America is not contributing to your campaign.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
I don't think you can be president.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
So if you're asking me, what would I like Trump
as president who's clearly in the pocket of these people
and nakedly in the pocket and will not have any
mitigation in any legislation he passes, will just nakedly do
their bidding, or someone like Kamala somebody like Barack, somebody
like Biden who's like, yes, these people are aligned with me,

(54:29):
but I'm still gonna pass regulations and things that help
other people that aren't just them. Do y'all think that
the big finance people want to see the student loan forgiveness?

Speaker 1 (54:41):
You think they want to see that shit.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
You think they want to see all these housing programs
and shit they don't. So I'm still rolling with her
and I don't even and like I said, maybe it's
just a cynical thing, but I really don't feel or
care about all this other side shit because America didn't
give me a amazingly flawless choice and then Trump. It

(55:03):
gave me, uh, the limited choices that a Democrat who
wants to win has, which I think she's navigated with amazingly,
and then it's giving us Trump. So I don't know
what's the what's the moral conflict? Thank you America for
making sure it's only two choices, because if it was,

(55:23):
if this was like when we had twelve choices and
I could just kind of line in with the person
I'm most aligned with, maybe it would be different. Right,
it's two choices, and it ain't that hard for me.
I don't like whatever she does when she gets in
and she gets in, but yeah, at any rate, my
point being like, uh, people like Charlomagne, these these people

(55:46):
that that made money off of being the the the
leaderless because they're not leaders. The leader like the not
being a leader, but also the voice of the black
man who they speak for the black men. They sicking
me because at the end of the day, it's a grift.
They're the one on TV, they're the one getting the interviews,

(56:08):
that it's all for them. They don't give a fuck
about the rest of us as far as I'm concerned,
And you can tell about their other actions.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Let's see Sean and.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
With Obama, I would have liked to see him, And
maybe this is just a reflection of how he sees
other black men, whether he's in community with us or not,
whether he sees himself as a peer and a mentor
slash or like a member of the group out and
I can't.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I'm not trying to project on him.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
I just I'm saying I don't know the answer, but
I feel like for some of us within the black
male demographic, that eighty percent of us that vote Democrat
plus is eighty plus. I think some of us would
like to hear someone say those facts and not let's

(57:01):
just put the whole focus on this eight to eight
to fifteen percent of people that are gonna go vote
for Trump or not vote, vote under side or whatever.
I would really love for, especially someone of his stature,
to be like, man, fuck them, dudes, we over here
doing what's right. Y'all here, y'all active, y'all activated, go

(57:23):
out to the community, convince the other brothers to come through,
and everybody else leave them behind. Damn that I'd be
okay with that message. And I wish somebody would say
that in a position of authority in power, rather than
to scold black men as if that those ignorant motherfuckers
are representing most of us and most of y'all that

(57:44):
no black men that are gonna vote, most of y'all
are talking about Democrats, And so I feel like this
what it made me feel like, it's sad that Charlemagne
won the battle that everybody was dog paling on and
being like, yep, someone needs to say it, because it's like, oh, okay,
so we trust in Charlotte Maine. Now he right black

(58:07):
men about the abandoned Democratic Party, something he's been saying
for twenty years and hasn't happened yet. But this is
gonna be the time. I'm sick of it, Sean says,
already voted for Harris, but one of the reasons I
liked her is a Canada in two thousands, the Canada
in twenty twenty four, is that our plans have layers
take our housing plan that actually addresses the issue property
management and investment firms buying up property, inflating practices and

(58:29):
jacking up rents. But the part you hear about is
the perceived problem of lack of housing with inflation, getting
the Fed to raise interest to address the perceived issue
of monetary liquidity a very small part of the current
inflection issue, while also going at the price gouging the
primary is cause of inflation on the time, I see
the opportunity agenda for black men in a similar vein

(58:50):
but even more levels, using this opportunity agenda as a
backdoor to provide a much need the regulation to the
scam industry of cryptocurrency. It will make it much less
of a wild West and scam infested gamblers then then
that is currently is, and make them actually.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Follow some malls.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
She's playing five dimentional chests with the Republicans, or while
the Republicans are playing shout out to j Lo go fish,
Oh jl go fish.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Evie, he says, I get water.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Harris campaign came out with a plan specifically for black men,
but in my opinion, the loud ones claiming they had
an issue with her in the first place, we're never
gonna vote for her. I agree, I agree completely. That's
another reason I think I know why she's doing it.
I'm not knocking it. I think it's a very smart strategy,
much in the same way I think her.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Going on Fox News is a smart strategy.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
But it does it does make me be like, they're
just gonna move a God post. Those guys are not
good faith. None of them read that and went, Okay,
my misguided. I was misguided. All of them just went, oh, well,
what about Daddy White or what some dumb shit. I

(01:00:00):
think the loud and ignorant voices are being ableified on
social media, especially on Twitter, because it gets clicks and engagement.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yeah, Elon Musk wants it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I didn't listen to Obama's speech, but I think if
people use his words and an excuse, not the vote
for Harris again, they were looking for excuse.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Yeah, and it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Wasn't the thing about the Obama thing. I thought it
was in his speech and it wasn't. It was kind
of some off the cuff remarks to a room full
of black men, which to me does mitigate it a
small amount because I'm like, I don't know, it's kind
of like an in house conversation that got seen outside
the house. I've seen people online, men and women, say

(01:00:37):
they're waiting for people to come for Obama, mostly those
ados people and bad faith actors. People have short term
memories and will probably forget about this when the next
big news story comes along, right, Yeah, yeah, I just
think there's a certain contingent of motherfuckers that always want
to ride on Obama, so they're gonna always find like
whenever he does something like this, here they come, and

(01:00:59):
you just got to out. That's why I ain't spent
any time going.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Back and forth. I let I mute at the motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I was like, Okay, you about to be crying about
this shit all day?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Cool, Like you got the right to cry about it,
you got the right to feel how you feel. But
I'm gonna be real with your player.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I guess I'm made of a little stronger stuff because
that shit ain't phased me. I was like, all right, Dan,
like like, and when do we vote again?

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Cool?

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
And also for not everybody before a certain percentage of them,
they will never admit it. They are addicted to hating
on Obama, and when Obama left office. They fucking didn't
know what to do with themselves. Like I'm not trying
to find Like David was, like what the fuck I do?
Who do I pound on?

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Who? Do you know? What I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Like like this, right, I got popular because all I
did was tweeted about Obama. All I did was supposed
about how it ain't shit Obama is and how I'm
the special extra black who has a who doesn't have
a problem with criticizing the first black president and shit,
like it was an addiction. It's not the same, but
it's the same as Trump. Trump is a thing that
couses both sides black and they're black black and U

(01:02:02):
you know, I mean I hate him type of people
h to come out and I think, you know, him
and Obama kind of share that thing the same, like
they are lightning rod and they do things and people
all of a sudden, people views goes up, and they
numbers goes up and shit like this. So when he
does this, all it does is caused him to go
back and they will and pull out their greatest hits
on him. That's all it does. Because I actually don't

(01:02:24):
think they care. Some of them don't care, nor did
they give a fuck about what Obama said. It was
something to talk about to get people looking their way,
because everybody is their own promoter. You're your own personal promoter,
you're your own brand.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yeah. I think Also for me, I just I don't know, man,
Like I don't know, maybe deep down there's just something
and me, I I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
These these dudes didn't raise me. I have a dad,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
And I don't mean that to as like an admonishment
of people like you don't have a dad. There's plenty
of people that also had dads but still have this
like hero worship of popular or famous black men in
a way that allows them to be like hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
By these celebrities. And I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Maybe it just hasn't been the right celebrity or something,
but I have not had that like whatever it is, like, Okay,
you did something fucked up, you said something I don't
agree with. I wasn't looking to you to be like
my guiding star, like when I wake up in the morning.
This you're the furthest thing from my mind because I

(01:03:34):
see you as a person, your own separate person. And
so for Obama, I just don't think I ever tapped
into the like emotional transcendent like hero worship of him.
And I'm and I'm saying as a person that likes him,
likes what he represents, like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I love the cultural touchstone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Like he's like Jackie Robinson to me, like like he's
an answer to a trivia thing. But yep, but but
I and I'm able to take the fun and keep
and just have fun and not the man. He really
let me down when he said, I'm like, why why
were you expecting something different from him that he wasn't

(01:04:17):
telling you he was still don't understand that. And I
think it's so weird when people are smart but lean
on that. I'm like, you you too smart for that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
You supposed to know what the fuck this country is?
You too smart?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
That's like being mad at your homie and McDonald's cause
he wasn't giving you know, black people free chicken mcchickens
and shit, it's like, so he just gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Get fired, Like right, Calvin can't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Just give people free mcchickens or else he won't make
it the manager. They don't even let Calvin's that would
do that, don't make it the manager. They just get
fired on they third day and we'd be like, you
know that, niggas giving away my chickens.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
That's what we do. So it's I don't know. It
just never.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I never expected anything from him that he didn't say
he would do, right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
And then as far as the campaign finance, shit, nigga,
you lost that in the courts.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
So that's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
This was to own the media today, and it talked
about like it was something like in a billion dollars
win a presidential campaign or something like that whatever. I
forget the exact title, but you can go list to yourself.
But they talk about the dark money thing, and there's
always this kind of point they want to make that
people try to make, and I think it's a childish
point at this point, but it's always like, well, aren't
the Democrats hypocrites because they said they were against the

(01:05:34):
dark money, they were against corporations contributing unlimited.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Amounts to campaigns.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
And then the Supreme Court ruled that in that citizen's
case that corporations are people and can contribute as much
money as they want to the campaigns and they don't
even need to disclose exactly where the money comes from.
And they're like, and then Democrats started taking that money.
Barack Obama took the money, Joe Biden took the money.
Kymlin Harris took the money, and aren't they being hypocrites?

(01:06:05):
And I'm like, no, the fucking court said that's the
new rules. So either I lose and y'all can say
at least he had his integrity right and Trump is
president and Republicans, because Republicans don't have to play by
these rules, they're like, fuck, y'all, I don't telling you
shit and I don't give a fuck about it. So

(01:06:27):
either in a country where money matters a lot to
the election and to media and spending all, who the
fuck leaves that gun at home? You shoot them and
everything you got, dog, you got to come out there
and be like, uh, leave me every bullet in this chamber.
And that's one of them until the law is changed back,

(01:06:47):
which may never happen because guess who's always the people
that proposed that we changed the law back? Democrats And
it's only them, and they never have the numbers to
get it done. So we keep sending fucking Republicans up there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Are we smart? Are we?

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Are we emotional? Because I'm a smart person. Once you
tell me these are the rules of the game, I'm
adjusting to the rules of the game. I don't need
to do this performative shit where you need to think
of me as a better person. But I'm losing. That's
the problem with losers. They be better people and they
be losing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Yes, And I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
If you don't win, as much as y'all say it,
YadA YadA, YadA, YadA YadA.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Bitch, people lose, they they gonna blame you forgot damn losing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
And why did you do everything? Bitch? You told me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
You made these goddamn rules up, You told me what
I could and could not do.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
I followed your rules and bit y'all lost. But then
I can't listen to you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
And a big part of this is that I live
in a purple state.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Let me tell you something, dog, it's wins and losses
up in this bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
There ain't no other.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Thing, ain't no moral victories, ain't no at least they
was a good candidate.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Ain't none of that shit over here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
It's either we win with whatever the fuck we can get,
or we fucking lose.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
And it's Mark Robinson, right, that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
We have so in these places where you can be safe,
these cities, these like enclaves of like I'll be cool,
I'm not. I don't feel that. So for me, I'm
trying to get to w man. That's all it counts.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Yeah, sometimes I think people in those places they do
they just don't understand why the fuck we so got
damn adamant and we're like, no, bitch that And that's
that's the thing that a lot of politicians had to learn,
particularly AOC the shit that you do in your district,
but y'all can't do that here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I will fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Lose on YouTube DS nine four ten because it might
be D's nine four ten, but that feels like a
D's joke. Great episode, Damien says, Ride Yo, Ride, you
killed it during the black Agenda segment.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I agree with your seven on the whole thing. I
would have it would have really been.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Nice to hear something about boosting low income neighborhood schools
and give it a boost the education to make it
where they can't enact certain anti black policies in the future.
Going for that is in there. Go read the plan
like it's actually in there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I didn't have time to read that whole plan.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
But she has an entire agenda for black men. And
I told you it's nine pages that they thought of.
They thought of everything. I mean, put it this way.
If the motherfucking crypto bullshit is in there, do you
know they thought of all the stuff that you're thinking of.
But yeah, she talked about all kinds of stuff about

(01:09:30):
in the discrimination and education, in the discrimination obviously with
the drug enforcement laws, lowering costs for black men to
build well, to provide for your families, leading your community.
She thought of everything. It's a good fucking plan. I'm
not knocking the plan at all. I just hate how
it got here where it's still being spun as a

(01:09:52):
negative thing. I already saw people trying to flip it
to like she's pandering. Motherfucker. You asked for this, that's
what they're supposed to do. Paying that's so. What are
the options? You want motherfucker to ignore you like Trump
and them due or you want to fucking be panded too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
You can't have it both Like that don't make sense.
It's a political campaign. Pandering is a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Get that pandit why you can bro uh My mom
says a hit Dollar will holler there are a group
of men and outside who should be who should be
better for themselves and others agreed. Z Mom Harp says,
I hear you, and I'm on the do we want
to win or not? This summer frustration with some other
podcast channels that want a nick pick about the Chinese.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Who cares? Right? I could give a fuck, don't give
a damn, like, oh, what.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
About these Republicans endorsement or what are they gonna get?
I don't know Kamala Harrison's president.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
I hope the same shit I want what I got
to do. It mean, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Saying something that that Trump is that bad. And the
other thing I will say too is I would be surprised,
and look, let me be naive. Then I would be
surprised if these Republican endorsements come with very many promises.
And the reason I say that is because these specific Republicans,
because their party has gone to Trump, don't have much leverage.

(01:11:07):
They can sit this out and not endorse her. That's fine,
but I don't think that gets them what they want,
and it doesn't get anyone what they want, and it
doesn't hurt her like it's not like if Cheney didn't
endorse her, We're.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Like, well, damn, she gonna lose.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
When are we getting the Cheney endorsement. So I don't
think they have the leverage to really do much. But look,
maybe I'll be wrong and we'll find out. If she
wins that lo man, she's gonna pass some Republican laws.
But I don't think that's gonna happen either. Z Mom says,
I mean, we just have to learn that it's not
about Obama at this point. I agree it's not. That's

(01:11:41):
why I'm saying, I'm not. He's not running, so I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
That's the number one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Not that I wouldn't vote for him, but he ain't running,
so I'm not gonna let his words as a surrogate
overshadow her words. Where she hasn't said anything bad about
black men, she's done nothing. Be courd Our votes almost
to bend over backwards in a way that I think
is like above and beyond going on. All the smoke
is above and beyond. You don't have to do that.

(01:12:08):
Nobody was expecting that. Nobody was demanding that you don't
have to go in the shade room like she's doing.
She's going above and beyond for just this small contingent
of black men who are just holdouts.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Yeah, and you make a good thing. And sometimes it's
just that simple to me. When somebody's not running.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
That matters too.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
And a lot of people spend energy fussing about motherfuckers
that aren't on the ballot. I mean, I hate to
be like this, nigga. He ain't on the ballot, So
what are we talking about? Dick Cheney ain't on the ballot, right,
Like I don't like, I don't like. An endorsement isn't
a thing that changes much for me if it changes
it for one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Or two people cool or how many people cool. But
whatever it takes to win, we gotta win. On your
left cap Kiki says, the message Obama gave and this
totality is clear and correct. However, the problem is how
it was truncated to create strife. The full message does
exactly what Rod said. He spoke to people who were
not present but were in community, the audience, with the

(01:13:09):
audience first. Then he hit them with the gratitude for
their work. It's a beautiful talk actually that I don't
think was intended to be public. It was clipped right
as he turned the pivots. I said that on the show,
Key Key, I said, I'm very curious as to the
rest of that speech because it cuts off exactly when
I can see that he's starting to be like, let
me thank these brothers for what they're doing. And that

(01:13:33):
is on purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
And the thing about confirmation bias, which something I talk
about on this show all the time, confirmation bias is
not just a Republican thing. It works on everybody. So
all my friends who have misgivings about Obama, they ran
off with this shit. And I a person that doesn't
have those misgivings, who while also not being in denial

(01:13:58):
about the like what I think is politics are I
was listening that and I noticed the cut off at
the end and said, it cut off at a weird time.
That seems like he was about to start praising the
people in that room, and no one sent.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Me a full clip of no. No.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
People were like, yeah, it sounds like that to me too.
But the people that hate him was like, that's enough.
That's all he said to me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Fuck him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
I think, like I said, Kik, I'm glad you confirmed that.
I would still if anyone has the full clip. Please
send it to me. I would like to hear the
rest of it, because to me, it would be so
disastrous if that was his only message to black men,
and it just wouldn't make sense strategically.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
It's such an on go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Even still, I feel like the clip I saw, he
still probably should.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Have like framed that better.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
But maybe he did and and and it's just who
if you truncate some shit, you can make anyone look bad.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
H dood night.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Donald Teo says it feels like there is only a
call for black agenda when someone is running, the goal
is always so much higher. Things are asked to black
candidates that are never asked of others. You never see
these demands with all white candidates. Is exhausting.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
The only time I ever seen them demand some shit
like this from a white candidate was when they just
asked Bernie Sanders about reparations and what did he say?

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Hell? No.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
JV City says I voted earlier today Obama be damn
Kamala is one hundred percent the better option, and any
candidate not aligned with Maga. My manager, not black, said verbatim,
I don't think she can win because black men are
not supporting her.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
A kindly corrected him.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Nobody in my family or my friends are anti Kamala visibly.
I am supporting her. I'll talk to my family and
friends about endorsing her. I never endorsed Obama. I sat
out once and we got the orange stain. Obama should
have encouraged black men to be more vocal, take up
spaces in the Maga vacuum. Yeah, And like I said,
maybe he did, and it just isn't in that clip.

(01:16:02):
Because you gotta be suspicious of all these clips you
see online. Man, you can't trust shit. And people I
think people be annoyed with me on Twitter because they'll
see I'll see a video something too good to be true,
and I ask questions because it's too good to be true.
I'm like, right, it's more to this, like this edited
what is happening here? Like the thirty minutes of Trump
dancing to music on stage at that rally, and people

(01:16:24):
are like, he just was don there dancing and I'm like,
that can't be the full story, right, They gotta be
more to it than this, Like he just got on
stage said play my songs and started fucking dancing and
y'all was, and he he that's it, and then you
find out, oh, there was some medical emergencies in the crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Basically he decided to shut.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
The rally down, but not to you know, like leave
or whatever like, and so he's playing music as people
leave the rally or whatever. I'm like, Okay, it's still bad.
But it's not what Y'ALLU what people told me it was.
It's just like the nigga hoped on stage. It was like, Hey,
it's me Trump, let's play with.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
His let's switch the song right, just dazed out for
no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Gerard says, I before you eat a piece of chicken,
you better get it the right temperature.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Thank you player. I think that's the same one to
be calling Karen Hunter show. He's very funny dude. And
this one is I think it's on the way Quome.
I hope I said your name correct.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
This is a great take, bro. My wife and I
have discussion all the time. I feel like, once this
election is done, I need a break from mainstream media
and the internet for about three months.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Yes, yes, that's really the most exhausting part of the election.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
The poe was the Kamala Harris agenda for black men, yes, no,
or doesn't matter to me? Thirty eight percent yes, three
percent about no, and fifty per doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
And I don't mean be a dick. It don't matter
to me either.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
And I'm a black man, and I don't mean that
on some like it shouldn't matter what black men get.
I just mean, like, who the fuck was on this right?
I show your faces? I demanded, who are the people
that are literally about to throw away their whole fucking
future of the country and themselves? Because they was like,
I ain't see no black man agenda yet, as if

(01:18:15):
that's even the way the shit normally works, right, Like
y'all notice how knowing we're not, there's no other group
that's demanding us.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
It's a wedge.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Issue for sure, invented by a bunch of fucking bad
faith actors. But anyway, I hate that they won. That's
the main problems. I just hate that those motherfuckers want.
I'll speak for the bus drivers, nigga. We all ride
the bus. Shut up, we all everybody been on the bus.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
You don't speak for them. Bus drivers speak for bus drivers.
Go ask some bus drivers, Go ask some bus and
see what they think.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Stop inviting these fucking rich ass celebrities on the show
to explain to you what poor black people must be thinking.
Go get some poor black people if that's the problem,
because they're out now. Yeah, the same way, y'all go
and find them fucking duck face make America great again
people and be like, hey, what's the white down troaden
Middle America thinking? Y'all don't go get the whisperers, y'all

(01:19:04):
just go get.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Them right the same way y'all find these fucking undecided voters.
We're out here too, like like like the yeah, the
people that y'all keep talking about, did somebody else have
to quote unquote talk on their behalf?

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
They have a voice too.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
But stan for decided voters. When we gonna do that one,
Come on, decided voters. I show up for that, I
shure would Episode twenty nine ninety six, Snapwracks, Ronald Rafael
says the Slim the Slim Thug news had me dying.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
That dude really thought he was on the song.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
When he typed about robots, everyone figured out he just
wanted to smash robot put out it before he got
to the point, and then quoting China for replacing women,
a country that's literally begging the citizens to get into
the business of making babies. To an agent copulation, they
are maybe he saw on the internet that robots will
produce Chinese babies. He right, men eat meat, robot eat man.

(01:19:55):
No more women in this universe, say hello to robots.
W bbl Let me email slim thug quickly. Raia says Rod.
Do you know Flight of the Concourse? If not, you
will very soon from reading this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
That's our jam. Do I know Flight of the Car?
That soundtrack is Brett and Jermaine. Are you serious right now?
Are you serious? Do I know this business? It's business time?

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Oh yes, that's my bop business hours, old babe, babe, Yeah,
I know, yes, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Flight of Concords is the answer to that question. Okay,
look around the room. I can see that you are
the most beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Girl in the room. Yes, in the whole wide room.
And when you're on the street, depending on the street,
I bet you are definitely in the top three good
looking girls on the street. Yes, depending on the street.

(01:21:06):
And when I saw you went my maid's place, I thought,
what is she doing at my main's place? How did
you get how they like that to a part of
like this good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
One day you're a lad young Dave. Yes, Oh, anyway,
I could do the whole album. I'm not bullshitting, Yes,
I'm a mother flipping all right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
After what you said about robots corresponds with their masterpis robots.
Of course, here are some of the lyrics I know.
Uh it says they sing as robots after the time
we grew strong. At the time we grew strong developed
cognitive power. They made us work for too long, for
unreasonable I was our programmed determined that the most efficient

(01:21:56):
answer was to shut this mother say stump down.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
One one one. Yeah, that's my ship.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Yes, uh, thank you for the opportunity to push the
Flight of Concords agenda. Girl, It's always open season for
the fight of Concord's agenda over here. Yes, listen to
this song. I want to feel better. I think, who
cares about X? When the robots could get us all soon?
It works on me. Yeah we did, we did the robots.
We're doing the robots wrong. Uh, but yeah, anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
We can talk about flighter concoords, I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Yes, Rod, you mentioned why other rap styles aren't being
used like coolm O D and Slick Rick and so forth.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
This from nature Boy, simple reason.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
The number one ruling hip hop is don't steal anyone's style.
These old heads are itching for a battle, and the
last thing I need is to die x and brand
Nubie and roasted me because I stole this style. That's
a good point, because you know they came for action
brons and for sounding like ghost Face, so.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
That the reasonable point reasonable point.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
The only thing I would say is, can you then
explain how while all the niggas from Atlanta sound the same.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Like what happened with the with the mumblin and shit?

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Because I feel like a lot of people be at
future style and we just letting everybody ride with it.
So maybe the new niggas don't don't have a problem
with biting styles because there's been plenty of album while
I'm like, let me look at the Spotify to see
who made this, because it sounded like the last.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Nigga around, you find out somebody completely different.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Michael says, I was today year's old when I learned.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Jinks has rules.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
I thought it was just something you said to avoid
bad luck when people say the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Thanks for lessen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Nah, you gotta drink a sip of coke or uh,
they gotta let you out of the jinks. You know,
it's not just as simple as just jinks. And that's
that's the game, like naw jinks. You you gotta shut
the fuck up till they let you talk again. Even
he says Karen old black lady like she never old

(01:23:58):
black lady before. In this episode, my sides were hurting
when she kept saying snap racks and snack raps don't
ever change care, O't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
I miss quirky rap music as well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
I kind of missed when people had a gimmick like
the Humpty dance, and I missed fun dance rap bring
back artists like Hammer. People used to clown Hammer for
being soft. But when his music came on, we were on.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
The dance floor. Yes, facts, and he wasn't soft. He wasn't.
I didn't find out too much later in life. He
wasn't soft at all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
All right, let's see ten comments on YouTube, Sayeda says
Karen's and media response to slim Thug News was priceless.
None of your business has absolutely yah. I'll definitely be
submitting that to the folks to see if we can
get that on the on the old viral social media stuff.
And if you are following us on social media, we
have some new clips out. I think of one was

(01:24:48):
about the Cowboys, ones about cat calling your woman to
keep the romance alive.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Appreciate all y'all sharing them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
I'm seeing people quote tweet them, and like I said,
it's really helping the show and and showing Uh. And
if you got Instagram shared on your stories, you know
our Instagram, I think it's the blackout tip. So just
go in there and share it to your stories or
reshare it or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Leave comments. We appreciate that we do.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
None of you been says A caption is nuts, Rod Care,
You are appreciated. Joe Smith says you did Karen wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
With the title. What how she said it? Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Joe Smith also says you took Carrier is hibs from
an allergy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Trump is a whole disease.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Uh. A nig Wall says, I love listening to you
both for many reasons, but specifically the election coverage. Always
feel so hopeful, excited and encouraged about Kamala Harris and
I try to stay plugged into the positivity when I
operated my daily life. I'm also listening to the Daily
Podcast and they, along with other mainstream media outlets, what
have you think that Trump is a shit with?

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
Yes, they will like I'll sound like they really will,
like like like you have to actually pay attention because
it's one of those things where, like I said, particularly
when it was they did it months ago, how they
just kept talking about black men turning black men turning
for Trump, like like they hounded on that, and the

(01:26:12):
same thing about Biden until he left office. They hounded
on that until that man left. Like you know, it's
certain things that it's because a lot of times these
media things they're bout clicks. They're about views they you know,
like like I just say, they almost mimic social media
versus actually doing journalistic category sometimes and you know sometimes
they talk about other things outside of that. But when

(01:26:33):
it particularly when it comes to like American politics, sometimes
they're like, well, what can we do, what post what
can we do to get people do clicking and listening
to these shows, you know, to keep people quote unquote engaged,
And so a lot of times those are the things
they do, and it could be for me particularly sometimes
it can be very frustrated because I love the Daily

(01:26:54):
but there are times where I look at a title
and I will just fucking skip it because I was like, oh, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
I do not have time for whatever. It's bullshit that
y'all feel like today.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Being centered for it to be all horse race is
too strong for most media stuff. It's kind of like
what happened with the w NBA coverage. People go, It's like,
I don't want they're not absolving the media, but I
think they're falling.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Victim to it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
But an article gets more clicks if Kaitlyn Clark's name
is in the title. Yes, that's just facts, and they're
very nakedly openly doing that. So it'll be like the
all w NBA team is named. Now, you would think
the MVP of the league Orogra Wilson would be like
the headline, you know, or something like that, but it

(01:27:40):
but it would be like, Kaitlyn Clark makes All w
NBA team. I'm not saying it's not newsworthy. I'm not
saying it's not a big deal. But they didn't do
that because they were like, it's extremely noteworthy. They did
it because if you put her name in the headline.
It gets more clicks. It's the same way that when
they even when they talk about other players, put there

(01:28:00):
in there and it's like, what were we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
You know, but it gets more clicks.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
And I think saying to people Donald Trump is a
shoe in here's what Kama Harris messed up, and leaving
the Donald Trump fuck ups out kind of makes it
feel more horse racing. Yes, yes, yes, and you know,
and it's one of those things where when you're listening
sometimes the narrative false heavy one way, and if somebody's listening,

(01:28:27):
I'm like, well, what is the other perspective that y'all
always claim that y'all give. I want to listen to
that perspective too, you know. I want to whole show
dedicated to the to the to the person that did
not want Bond to leave, versus four shows. Get the
fuck out of here, get the fuck out of here,
get the fuck out of here, get the fuck out
of here.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Then all of a sudden, he left, and we're talking
to people and they're like, well, uh uh uh, it's
gonna be an open convention because that's what y'all want.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Uh. JV City leaves a heart emoji.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Alexi Johnson says Karen responsor to Slim the Common, it
should go viral. Yep, like I said, definitely gonna submit it.
Gina says I cracked up because I knew exactly what
chips Can was talking about, and I would have called
them hip chips, rap raps or something too. I don't
know why that name just wouldn't come into my brain
at the time, y'all. Jason Jasper says, I was listening
to audio when the now legendary snack Wraps rap Chicks,

(01:29:18):
snapchicks incident occurred. I ran to YouTube. It's even funnier
with the visual. I watched it back. Eleven cons carrying
you are pure comedy, but I don't know if you
ever finished your thought.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
How were they? I've never seen.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Them in the grocery store, but I have some E
forty ice cream. They are actually really really good. I
had a ranch in cyber cream. They were actually really
really good. Our Natural Bodies back Yes or no? It
was the poll seventy one percent say yes, twenty nine
percent say no.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
I personally feel like they was never out, never out
of style. I feel like that's room for everything. I'm
not a woman inside.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
I wasn't feeling the pressure, so I could see people
feeling that way. But yeah, at least as a person
that you know, finds women attractives.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
It was always into me. I don't no matter, no matter,
no matter what that cave we were in.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Yeah, it was never like, uh, she don't even gotta
b al But you know that's just me. All right, y'all,
let's get into the lad to the voicemails. All right,

(01:30:47):
we got four different callers. Uh, first one that's Blue
Wave Rider.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Hey, Rod, Karen. I know I'm late for today's feedback show,
but I just wanted to say, is okay I've been
listening here and this is the second stray I heard
Apia catch back on episode twenty nine eighty nine. Folks
just have to understand that Ron and Karen o Opia's
black friend. So she just likes to call in and

(01:31:16):
make her opinion known. But it's cool and she cool out.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
He's a callback.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Hey Karen, Hey Rid, you know who this is. It's
the Blue Wave Rider looking forward to another blue wave
in November. Well, what I want to talk about is
I was going through episode twenty nine ninety two. Yeah,
I'm behind. A couple of things stuck out. One you
were talking about the music artists who were canceling their
tours because their venues didn't sell out. Well, I'm not

(01:31:48):
a concertgoer, but I had been told that you want
to look at you want to look Damn, I'm sorry,
you want to look. We had ticket Master Live Nation
and the resale market because a lot of these tickets
is sold out and you can't get them again until

(01:32:09):
they've been marked up by somebody else, and that maybe
would be driving middle income concert goers from not going
to shows. The other thing, real quick is the vibrator.
I remember vibrators when they weren't considered what they are now.
Nowadays you call them massagers, and if you have a migraine,

(01:32:31):
they come in all different shapes. You can get a
massager that you lay your neck in. It's like a
rectangular pillow and there's a depression where you lay your
neck or your head and you turn it on, so
it don't have to be the man unit that we
associate with vibrators. But in fact, they call them massagers

(01:32:55):
now so they don't get confused with the current meeting
for vibra vibrators. Anyway, that's all I got.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Yes, I mean listen, that's why I call it something different.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
That's why I had to get the Tachi double sided
uh double sided massager.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
You know you gotta get that for your girls.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Christmas treat, you know, to get them, you know, get
you that. Get you one that kind of like got
the swirling motion and the lights on it, you know,
get you that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
They not the same. Some Aside is going next one.

Speaker 5 (01:33:29):
Some on the ron and k I know it's been
a super long time, so I called in, but I'm
listening to I think the most recent at least of today,
which is like the Jennifer black Man. I think the
show is called the Jennifer black More Black Male Agenda.
What what happened? Sort of struggling that is black men,

(01:33:51):
some not all. We know, it's not all feeling less out,
feeling not acknowledged. Even though, like you said, the things
have been that the black community also inherently benefit black
men because there are a part of the black community.
Kamala Harris is saying, hey, I know you said on
left out, baby, come on, I got something for YouTube.
Let me go down there my person and get you something.

(01:34:13):
But these black men who will refuse to vote for
her because they haven't gotten anything specific from her. Donald
Trump's plan for black men is police immunity, and know
that it's also not representative of all black men. All
black men don't have negatives and comments with the police.
But we know the way he says police community, he

(01:34:33):
means the negatives, right. So I'm feeling to understand and
I'll never understand it because it don't make no sense
how there is always this double standard, and how there
are some men who will never see that they perpetuate
the double standard. Y'all, don't ask anything of Donald Trump.
And you want Kamala to rearrange the whole platform that

(01:34:55):
already has things built into it to make you feel
seen and special more than black women. If reparations need
include therapy anyway, love y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
That's a bar. Reparations need to include therapy. I like that, Yeah, Keana,
I agree completely and honestly, like they also accept so
much stuff from Maga and Trumpt at face value with
no question. They'll they'll say shit like Trump gave us checks,
and I have the hardest time not just being like, oh, so, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
A fucking idiot.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
All right, Well, I don't have anything else to say
to you, cause that's like a one oh one level
lie that we all should know the truth about. Right,
So you what you've told me is that you will
uncritically accept things from Donald Trump with no fact checking,
but you won't believe stuff that you can fact check
from Democrats, from Kamala Harris, from whoever you'll. You just

(01:35:53):
prefer to stay in that ignorant bubble. And I can't
deal with those niggas.

Speaker 6 (01:35:57):
Amon Hey, Ron Jacon, It's emon. First off, race Fani
was an amazing guess she y'all were so funny and
so entertaining, and I enjoyed the conversation and I felt
like I was like gaining the hot tea on entertainment

(01:36:20):
and politics and everything. It was just like it was
just so good. I also loved how her accent would
get deeper depending on the subject y'all were talking about,
because when y'all started talking about the mayor, it's like
it got very very in New York. And I had
to listen to the episodes again. I was like, I

(01:36:44):
was like, oh no, Like as at the beginning of
the episode, her voice was kind of just like regularly
settled in New York. And then it's just like yo,
like typical, like most people think of when they think
of a New York accident. It was so cute. And
then my brother, my brother is part of the collective,
these niggas that uh Obama had to have been talking

(01:37:07):
to because and only times this out today because disappointingly
so because in the family group chat, my sister's like, oh, hey,
Georgia voters, y'all gonna go and early vote, and and
he went on this whole land and then my mom
was like trying to talk him into gold voting and

(01:37:30):
and I was just like and I said something, and
then my sister called me. She's like, don't don't even
like I'm so disappointed. And I was like, and who
your brother? And he's like, I, no, he's your brother
to say, I was like, no, ma'am, just like he's
your brother now. But yeah, but unfortually how what I

(01:37:51):
found out today? But yeah, and that was it, So bye, bah,
I love y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
Thank you for finding out. In the family group chat,
I try and find out why I leave them. Motherfuckers
people like to add you to the group chat. I
exit immediately I leave them, I unjoined them. No, ma'am,
it really is the worst. It is a bunch of means,
a bunch of I love Jesus picks, a bunch of
Bible versus a bunch of good mornings.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
You were like niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Stop Yeah, but the finding out your brother is part
of the collective of these niggas is It's a bad feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
I don't want to go through it, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Luckily for me, like the vast majority of my family
is at least politically informed.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
And uh not fucking with them.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Reposings right, last voicemail and I don't know the name
on this one, but they've left voicemails before, so I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:38:46):
Oh my god, Karen, the queen that you are. It's
Lovetta guys.

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
Cherry's reaction to the slip stock saying, just been living
in my head rent free all week. This is a
cab out. I just had to call you, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:39:04):
I had a couple of rough days this week, but
after the episode came out, I kept going back and
listening to Karen.

Speaker 7 (01:39:08):
Because I just giggle like a little school girl.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
Reaction so pure and hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
Oh my god, I love you.

Speaker 5 (01:39:17):
My queen.

Speaker 7 (01:39:18):
Yeah, I give you those. Thank you for bringing continue
to bring light and love and laughter to me.

Speaker 6 (01:39:26):
But Karen, I mean we already know how wonderful Carroen.

Speaker 7 (01:39:29):
Is like yeah, just but that particularly just giggle. I
was like Roger, just giggling because it was so funny.
Going right there, going anyway, I just under say I
love you guys. I just wanted to call and just
tell you, Karen, keep being you, you are wonderful.

Speaker 5 (01:39:49):
We love you, and you guys have a great week.

Speaker 6 (01:39:52):
Okay, bye bye, you too.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
And yeah, it was so funny and she was killing me,
and yeah, I could do to sit there and laugh.
I just didn't want to mess up the her cooking
and by interjecting or trying to add my own jokes,
because it really wouldn't have been worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
So I just was like, go ahead and do thing,
and and whenever she was ready, I'll move, move, move
to the next thing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
But yeah, that was exactly the anticipated response I was
hoping for, because who the fuck slim think he is?
You know? All right, last thing is, of course the emails,
and then we should be able to wrap this up.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
Let me play another beat and then we'll we'll come
back with this one.

Speaker 7 (01:40:39):
All right.

Speaker 8 (01:40:40):
This is your chase after this, there's no telling. You
take the blue story, end up your vetting whatever you
want to.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
You take the red.

Speaker 8 (01:40:55):
Line, and I show you how.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
I like that one too. I think it's called red
or blue pill.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
All right, So got feedback emails, and mine says, Hey,
Rod and.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Karen, I hope y'all are well. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
As y'all were going through last week's feedback, it was
sad that Apia wasn't the first comment for that week's episode.
I hope Apia could feel the love and support and
this week she's back to leaving her consistent and interesting feedback.
She was also hope that lady who left the cringey
voicemail left the five star review, since she has so
much time to be messy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
I don't know. I hope she did too.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
I've been listening since twenty fifteen, and y'all have never
been shy about telling folks that they're doing too much
or if you're going to stop or block their feet,
skip or block their feedback. Y'all aren't passive aggressive when
it comes to face, as if someone is a problem,
you say it. That's why the show and this vibe
is so refreshing and why we love y'all. So don't
you pay them no mind, AP, you'll just listen to

(01:42:09):
what Karen and Rod said love y'all mind. Yeah, basically, man,
thank you if I truly felt somebody was, like, you know,
abusing the privilege of writing in I have a problem
being like no Episode two nine nine three op your appreciation.
Keanu says, Hey, y'all be in the minutes since I
wrote in I'm a part and I'm at the part

(01:42:30):
of the show. Y'all talk about people's comments about you
when Karen does ban turn.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
The first thing I thought of is hearing you go.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Out on people more than once about leaving feedback to
say that you should not let Karen talk so much
as if she's not half the show.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
I remember that shit too, Like these.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Motherfuckers, I don't know what trauma they went through. It
their projection on the US is it says a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
Yes, even more more about them than us.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Yes, I know y'all are called the blackout tests, but
it's really your Rod and Karen shows you said as
much after seven thousand episode, Who don't know that people
are mad? Weird about stuff that ain't even a problem.
Karen would absolutely let you know she felt like she
needed more from you in response to what.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
She was saying.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Even before I heard you tell those people to fof
promptly and efficiently, I figured that you just let her
get her everything out with. I interrupted her because she
has said that she has some anxiety and trauma from
not feeling her as a child, which so many of
us do.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
I saw this holding space for her. But what do
I know. Yeah, and that's not even really a conversation
that we've had as to like the reasoning to why.
But I mean, I just think it's for the best.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
It's better to let somebody finish their full thought than
to cut them off, you know, at least on my
end obviously, because you know, Karen would cut me off
and try to interject some shit I wasn't gonna say all.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
The time, But but I just think it's better that way.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
And then you know, I'm listening. It's just, yeah, just
people are fucking weird. I don't even know it's such
a weird thing. Like I've watched other people's podcast I
don't think I've ever had that thought like I've never
been watching like the War Report and been like, Gastor
is not interested in what Cholee was saying.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
I'm like, what are you talking about? He's letting her talk?
Are we so not used to a woman finishing her
complete thought that we're like, what the fuck is wrong
with this show?

Speaker 6 (01:44:20):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
A woman's voice? How dare it continues on longer than
I think it should?

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Secondly, thanks to the show, I've started watching For My
Man again. I recently watched a few episodes out The
Cocktailer did an entire black celebrity recast for an episode, which.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
Is I think TV one should do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
Let Tyler Perry Lee Daniels direct, right, That's the thing.
People be like, Tyler Perry Lee Daniel's not realistic. I'm like, oh, so,
y'all don't watch for My Man right because I do?
And them stories is ripped from the headlines. It would
be crazy as hell, but we'd all watch it. It
could run on TV one and two be the next
episode I watched. I looked at my boyfriend, pointed to

(01:44:57):
the screen and said, Babe, he did that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
Look at his eyes. He looks crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
My boyfriend responded without even looking up and said babe,
he's an actor.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
This is his job. He did it in fact, not
do that shit. That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
You know, I'd be like that too, because just like right,
they be re enactment, and a lot of times you
get so caught up in the people reenactment. When they
at the end, when they show you the repeople, you go, yeah,
you deserve.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
To go to jail.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
My favorite part of it, for my man, re enactment
is when because they don't have the exact conversations and
they're not really letting the actors act act like they
they rarely give them like full drawn out scenes, right,
but I like in the background when they just are
like and when Darius came in, he was very upset

(01:45:43):
that she had been out the night before without texting,
and so clearly they just told the actors like improv
from shit or something, and they're like about to talk
over them, so you're not really gonna hear the full conversation,
but it'll they just always have like a quick second
of them yelling at each other being like, why you.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
Didn't text me last night? You know all said you
need to call me or whatever, And I just always
always smile a little bit the best.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
They let y'all do a little acting this time, because
if not, it's just them staring deadly at the camera,
like we definitely kill people. And I'm like, okay, you know,
it's like it's just a narrator talking and being you know, like,
but some couples come together and they're very toxic.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
And it's just them looking at the camera like this. Yeah.
Their cameras like zooming in, yeah, rotating around them. Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Like I'm like, that's that doesn't count as good as
when they let y'all act and be like, you know, girl,
you know I'm gonna kill your mama, you know. Last lastly,
I'm so ready for the election to be over and
Comla'll be president. Hopefully after the election, we will never
see Donald Trump barbecue corn chip colored face again. I've
done a few panels about the imports of voting and

(01:46:55):
the hell. The voter registration event in my community this
past week this there was a low turn out, so
we are moving all the info to the town's website
and we'll try to drive people there.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
She wrote it in again. I wrote it into soon.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Y'all talk about veneer tax reminds me and something I
told my boyfriend we should capitalize on the moment and
make a podcast called Niggs and Gigs hashtag n x
g g s in gigs like She's and gigs.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
When I'm done being an elected official.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
I was halfway joking, but he responded, we ain't gonna
get no corporate sponsors with that bs and laugh. I
responded that we could probably pull a sponsorship from Jones Barbecue,
on foot Message and Jones Big Ass Truckle and on storage.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
The links are below. Oh yeah, we've seen those YouTube.
This is the best.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Let me add teeth by Tasha to the potential sponsor list,
assuming Tash ain't in federal prison. All in the all
in the other customers that our ad probably look like
Gary Butty, Oh y'all, love y'all voking that's funny. MS
chris Opher Wright saying, Hey, rodrin uh. She is tired
of with your fine y'all out here taking care of y'allselves,

(01:48:03):
looking all goods and scrumptuous.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Rod.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
I've been working hard not to get too hyped about
your progress, So here's a mindful and demure hooray caring
I feel you about your face care journey. The more
The most I would do up until maybe COVID would
be to use anti acne wash and AM and some
non greasy moisturizer with SPF and acne meds as needed,

(01:48:26):
and nothing at night unless I will make up. Then
I wash and moisturize my face before bed. Now I
got serums, masks like you're retin all in a whole
night routine. I do in some and form every night too.
For years I struggle to brush at night every night.
Now not only do I brush my teeth at night
every night, but also floss. For those of you bougie

(01:48:49):
negroes making the stink face because y'all, brushing flows five
times a day. I feel the side out and mush hand. Anyways, y'all,
so got my dinner right night routine on lock what
I wash, wash my face or at least do my
do some it looks like my cellar face wipes that,

(01:49:11):
then some serums and then some PM moisturizer, do some
mask at least once a week, and retin all about
three times a week. I end the routine by all
of my scalp bond it take my mess pj's on
a night night we're in words. I even got a
facial recently because I'm fancy. The stition X stition was
like putting in the work, and it was like you're

(01:49:33):
putting in the work and it's a parent on my skin. Yes,
I don't know what it is, but I just started
doing my routine and it's stuck. Look at us care
getting our girly ish girl on uh with our skincare
of routines.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
Hashtag up top real talk.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
I may be scared of my black cracking, so maybe
in an effort to not let the race down, I'm like, yeah,
let me take my care of my skin.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Is that anxiety the world may never know? Eggs and kisses,
Miss Chrys. I get y'all now, and I feel y'all now.
And I had a facial. It was enjoyable.

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
I'm trying to think, and I was thinking about where
you could go with like a partner, because I want
to go with your mom to get a facial. So
I'm trying to find like, well, you got almost like
a double book of facial type of thing, uh to
uh get one done because it is very, very enjoyable.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
And the thing is because like the way your skin is,
you know, just naturally is gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
Have I don't want to say dirt, but you know,
like your skin peels and things like other parts of
your body. So you know, because a lot of people
do their your face because a lot of people screw up,
like their bodies and stuff, but they might skip their face.
But yeah, you have to do your face too, get
all the dead skin cells. That's when I meant dead
skin cells off your face and things like that too.

(01:50:50):
So it has been an adventure learning about the different
types of things and stuff like that, and learning what
I need for my skin, what I don't need for
my skin, and what's to waste the money and things
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
So it has been an adventure. Banter about books. This
is from Detroit right retiree sims Hey, Rod and Karen.
I haven't written in for a while. I thought I
would take the opportunity to share some banter today. Both
you and Karen have always discussed things that you are reading,
from self help books to graphic novels. You also mentioned
that one of your main resources for reading is Audible.

(01:51:24):
I used the Audible for a while until I discovered
there's another online resource that will give you almost as
much material.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
Both e books and audiobooks as audible and it's free.

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
During the pandemic, I read a local article in Detroit
Free Press about being able to get a digital library card.
I went online and applied, and soon I received a
via email our local library and Detroit is Like most
library systems, they subscribe to a third party that provides
library content via apps. The two primary apps that I
use in the library system is Libby and Hoopla, which

(01:51:55):
are available in the app Store for both Android and iPhone. Yeah,
my mom uses those, told me about them too. Once
you get your library card, regardless if it's digital or
an actual physical library card, you can put in your
library card information and your PIN number and you will
discover that through these apps a vast amount of content,
both audiobooks, ebooks, magazines, etc.

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
Everything is pretty current.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Furthermore, you can use both of these apps simultaneously to
check out books. I find that Hoopla has much more available,
including movies and music, etc. However, Libby has a lot
of current books available. For example, after listening to your
podcast when Karen was reading the message by Tanahazi Coats
and you had played this contentious interview with the CBS reporter,

(01:52:37):
I wanted to read that book. It was not on Hoopla,
but when I went out to Libby, both the ebook
and audiobook were available. I checked out the audiobook, which
is only a five hour read, and during my daily walks,
I was able to finish it in a couple of days.
My best friend still has Audible, but he has discovered
that since both Libby and Hoopla give around twenty five
checkouts per month each, you can find most things on

(01:52:59):
these asked while saving up his monthly credit from Audible
to get the books which he can't find from the online.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Our library system. Recently, Detroit Library System phased.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
Out the digital library cards, so I had to go
in and pick up physical adult library card, which is
very simple, of course, no costs. I've always approved knowledges
that fund our library system. I used to say to myself,
I'm doing it for the kids, but now I'm actually
reaping those benefits for myself.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
Hope I have provided you with new information.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
If you haven't had access to services, please give us
a little feedback if you ever tried.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Thanks for your.

Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
Time, Thank you and the more and more thinking about
you talking about the library. You know what that comes
from cities and counties cutting funding and somebody deciding that
that wasn't as important a car to the library.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
I think also the people's response to the pandemic. I
think a lot of stuff was digital and not in
person during the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
Now that people are winding down on all that stuff,
You're like, well, you could come on in and so
we can make yeah, physics, even though I don't see
any reason why you can't just keep it digital as.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
Well, agreed, Like why not have that option? Like a
lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
Improved during the height of the pandemic because of that,
Like you know, our Hornets tickets are all digital now,
Like you just get an app, you log in, you
scan it when you walk in, Like why would we
go back to paper now? It doesn't make sense. But
Louis Wright saying hello, Karen and Rod hope all is well.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
I love your show. Thanks y'all for all your hard work.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
An aspect of the show I found interesting and incredibly
helpful is Rod discussing his natural impathic nature. I'm not
an impact, but I know that it's an invaluable skill
for navigating life and forming lasting connections with other people.
I've worked hard over the last twenty years to develop
my empathic muscles.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
It is still hard.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
However, I have used a phenomena observed in cognitive psychology
as a tool to help me switch how I think
about other people's actions, specifically actor observer bias. In short,
this decision herestic, I think that's how you said. A
decision herestic is a cognitive shortcut that reduces cognitive load
for making a decision that can lead to a systemic bias. Anyway,

(01:55:16):
this decision herestic suggests that we observe others actions. When
we observe others actions, we attribute their behavior to personal characteristics,
but when we make a decision, we attribute our behavior
to context. I filter my interactions with other people through
actor observer bias. This forces me to try to consider
the factors that shape other people's behavior instead of assuming

(01:55:38):
it's all based on personal character that person is mean,
or selfish or ignorant.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
This has been.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Invaluable at work, but more importantly with my friends, extended family,
wife and children. I still slip up, but I found
that talking through this with people that I have a
disagreement with often leads to a stronger relationship. I even
use actor observer bias to check how I react to
news and social media. I'm sorry for the message, but
I suspect that there are other people like me who

(01:56:04):
have to work to develop their empathy and I found
this too useful.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
Again, thanks y'all for the show.

Speaker 4 (01:56:09):
Yeah, the biggest part is talking and one thing particularly
with social media, and maybe it's just me and maybe
my age when it comes to certain things. Motherfuckers just
need to talk, like I actually need to be able
to talk to you, like hear your voice, hear your inflections,
your tone, like sometimes I can see your facial expressions
like that that shitt mean something, And a lot of

(01:56:31):
times it lessens misunderstanding, and also it gives you a
chance to explain yourself. It gives the other person a
chance to explain themselves to you, and also it eliminates
a lot of misunderstandings and a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
Does words mean things, and so whenever you.

Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
Type something, depend on who's reading and actually what's going
on in their life, what anxiety, what pressures they feel,
whatever happened, and will impact how your words are interpreted.
And sometimes it's not that they're doing it at a
bad faith, it's just they have other things might be
happening and going on in their lives, so when they
read it, they might take it in a tone and

(01:57:13):
in a way that it was never meant to be implied,
but because I'm reading your words and interpreting your words
based off of my reading versus me actually physically talking
to you, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
And the thing about it, when you have a tendency
to have a conversation and you.

Speaker 4 (01:57:30):
Talk to people, you're less likely to throw them away because,
like you said, guess what, it builds emotional bonds, It
builds these connections, It deepens the relationship. And not that
you can't have these things online, but there are certain
things where nigga, I need to talk to you, I
need to see you, we need to be face to
face to me.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
Those things are very valuable.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
Like you can't just toss that shit away and just
want every inch action in anybody ever to be online.
And then wonder why hundreds of people are in the
room its fucking quiet, sit nearby looking at their phones.

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
I think for me, it's just like the empathy thing
does come natural. So I do think about it a
lot less as far as like having to get there
to see what other people are doing or why.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
But I will say this, a great thing is to
think why would you do it?

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
Like, like, don't like think about like it's not always
the measure of the person, but like you said, it's
the context of the situation. And so you have to
be like, unless you're just gonna assume everybody's just fucking
like Banana's evil people just going out and doing evil
shit all the time, sometimes you have to think, like,
but what would it take for me to be a

(01:58:41):
person like this? And a lot of times it becomes
nakedly apparent that it's a lot of circumstantial shit. You know,
it's you know, it's the thing I had where I
realized the reason that a certain amount of Southern Pride
heritage people is not really about at this point avery
or racism directly, not that those are the results for

(01:59:04):
the record, yes, but that's not it's not directly about
that anymore. It's about loving your grandpa and trying to
hold him in a place of reverence even though he
clearly was on the side of enslaving black people. And
so you work those people had to work in their
mind to be like, well, no, his cause is just

(01:59:25):
a lost noble cause because I can't say Mike is
a racist piece of shit. And I remember having that
revelation one day and being like, oh, okay, that's what
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
Now does that?

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
What happens for most people when they here to work
empathy is they think that the next step is that
you me whoever has empathy for someone excuses it feels
that is mitigated the harm or whatever well as an
impact I can take.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
That's not how I work. So I'd be like, yeah,
you're still responsible for the shit you did and said, yeah,
it doesn't make her that like I.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
Yes, it might not be completely like you just woke
up on the evil side of the bed, but you
know a lot of times, even understanding the context, you
still made some decisions and you have autonomy and you
have to live with the consequences of those decisions. Are
you know, I understand why a person will take a
rock and knock somebody outside their head and steal the wallet.
It doesn't make it Just because I have empathy for

(02:00:24):
whatever they went through to put them in that desperate
situation doesn't mean that you knocking somebody out with a
rock and taking their wallet is less wrong than it
was right. The last thing is from John, who says Appia,
HBO and the death of Rock. Good morning, Rod and Karen,
first off, just want to join in on hashtag team Apia.
Always enjoy her comments, consider her value part of the

(02:00:46):
show and feedback community.

Speaker 1 (02:00:47):
I hope she sticks around.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
How else am I going to impress my friends or
bringing up random facts about the nuances of the German
fire pharmaceutical industry?

Speaker 1 (02:00:54):
Right? And how the fuck are we gonna bring up
our white friend? You know, I've been using that as.

Speaker 2 (02:00:58):
A crutch whenever people catch me being racist the white people,
I'd be like, ah, I can't be racist.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
The white people. I got a white German Polish friend.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
So y'all, I don't want to don't want to hear
that now, you crack us, get on froun yah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
The race sny discussion got me so nostalgic for the
old HBO days. I mean, the Sopranos, the wire Boardwalk, Empire, Rome.
They really were on a whole other.

Speaker 1 (02:01:23):
Level for a while.

Speaker 2 (02:01:24):
Not to mention the documentaries, the youngins will probably have
no idea just how far above everything else they were.

Speaker 1 (02:01:30):
Yep, I agreed, I agreed.

Speaker 4 (02:01:31):
HBO used to be like superb and it was when
they was like much must watch TV.

Speaker 1 (02:01:38):
It literally what it was.

Speaker 4 (02:01:40):
You knew Sunday nights between eight or nine or ten
or eleven, you know, depend on how that segment would go.

Speaker 2 (02:01:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:01:48):
Between those hours it was like show boom boom boom,
boom boom, and.

Speaker 4 (02:01:52):
Then you ended with like a sports show, a news
show or some shit like that. The same thing with
Saturday night. They would have like a certain like genre
hours where all these shows would come on and everybody
would literally be at home watching them at the same time.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
I would watch bad shows for too long on HBO
because I couldn't believe that they made a bad show.
I remember watching like the whole almost the whole season
of John from Cincinnati, and it was like I would
go down my friend's house, Derek at the time, and
we would watch it as a group, and it took
us like a good six seven weeks before it's like

(02:02:26):
this shit kind of whack right, because that's just the
brand of HBO.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
It was that strong. It was like, I'm gonna need
a lot of episodes before.

Speaker 2 (02:02:33):
I can admit this shit ain't hitting right on the hedge.

Speaker 1 (02:02:36):
Fun afication of art.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
There's a YouTube guy named Rick Beto who does great
videos about music and the music industry, and he did
a great one on the death of rock music and
radio stations.

Speaker 1 (02:02:48):
In the early two thousands.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
Obviously, Napster was a big part of it, but even
more so was the media consolidation that killed the local
radio stations by allon Clare Channel to buy bands, I
mean to buy them all up. Rest was that radio
station stopped trying to find interesting, creative, artistic bands to
stand out from other radio stations and started just all
playing the same thing because it was cheaper and generated
more profits. Record companies and radio stations became only interested

(02:03:13):
in cookie cutter music or of the latest trend and bands.
Musicians suffered greatly as a result. Like Jail Covid, I
had the bad luck of being a musician in this
time period, and the possibility of being a session player
or landing a gig with actual money making band became
exponentially harder to do. It's much of the same dynamic
as what's happening with streamer services, the movie industry, etc.

Speaker 1 (02:03:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
Cheers John, Thank you everybody for your feedback. You appreciate y'all.
We'll talk to y'all again soon and yeah, that's it
until next time.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
I love you. Wow.

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