3003: Loud Working

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To The Black Guy Who Tips podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I listen because Rod and Karen are hot.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
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(00:31):
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Speaker 4 (00:51):
My brain has to process y'all think I'm bullshit. My
brain has the process that every time.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
And we have a guest. We're not here by our else.
He's been on the show before. I've gone on his
podcast before. Is Zach from the Living Corporate Podcast. What's
going on? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yo? Ride Karen? How y'all doing good?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Man? Good to see you, bro. It's been too long man.
How's everything going with the podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
So first of all, it has been way too let
me tell you how long it's been. First of all,
I got way more great hair, but then also I
got a whole nother baby since the less time I
talked to Wow. Two kids now wow. Yeah, man, it's
been a while. It's been it's been a while, but
I appreciate y'all. You know, the pod is doing great.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
You know I say this every time I give give
your flowers, you know, in private, but also this all
might I'm gonna say when we talked initially back in
like twenty eighteen, and I was like, yo, like what
advice do you have for me? Because I want to
say Lance connected us And you were like, look, man,
it's not really gonna be sexy advice. You just got
to be consistent. And like we've been consistent and so

(01:59):
the pots and great, we're doing our thing. A lot
of stuff's happening over there. It's been good man. I'm
super thankful.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I'm grateful.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Yeah, and you have been very consistent.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Like I always see you know, the updating living corporate,
like you're always getting guessed on, which I know is
already like an extra level of work.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Coordinating schedules with people all the time.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
And one of the things I was thinking about when
you came knowing you were coming on was in just
the last few years, the way that the corporate landscape
has changed, you know, with so many different it's on
so many different levels, you know, the first being of course,
the pandemic.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
We go to remote work.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
There's a lot less people in offices. Then there's the
we got to come back to office. Hybrid work is
a big thing now. I feel like people's work schedules
are different now. Traffic, even in my city, the rush
hour has changed, Like it used to be a four
to thirty five o'clockage thing. Now it could be four
o'clock and it's already like slammed on the highway.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
People going in early yeah, because they like I want
I'm not gonna be stuck in that quote unquote later traffic.
But all it does is just push the traffic time
up higher.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
As far as like, Richard, how how has the has
how has that affected the conversations that you're having on living, living,
corporate or has it affected those things?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:26):
So, man, first of all, thank you for the question,
and thank y'all for the love and the chat and
the comments. I'm gonna try to not look over there.
Y'all have an incredible community. I also and I just
love the show. I love y'all. So what I'll say
about I'm like, I'm trying not to be like a fan,
a super fan and just answer the question. So now,
like you're right, because I think about when when we

(03:46):
started living corporate, and it was really started by just
me wanting to have conversations that were honest about black
experiences at work, and then black and brown experience and
expanded to like marginalized experiences. It was in this context
of like most people working in an office like that
was in twenty eighteen, and then to your point, twenty

(04:06):
twenty changed a lot because it wasn't just the pandemic,
to your point, it was also the murder George Floyd
and so like everybody, I guess discovered that racism is bad.
So then like it was this combination of people working
remote and then also like these really you all remember
what was going on, Like white folks was just apologizing
and like handing us ice cream cones and like just

(04:28):
going above and beyond to like reckon with their racism.
So I think it was like it was an interesting
season of like both of those things coming together at
the same time. And so the discussions changed in that.
Before like I would say, before twenty twenty, I was
talking to black executives, but they would be really nervous

(04:49):
about being on Living Corporate because we just were having
really honest and frank conversations and they knew based on
listening to other listening to other pods, that like, we're
not like cussing and going crazy crazy, but we ain't
not gonna talk about whatever we're gonna talk about either.
But then after twenty twenty, it was like there was
a different degree of boldness. And also I'm gonna say

(05:12):
like corporate brands began to get way more engaged and interested. Right, So,
like around that time is when we got featured on
CBS This Morning, and then we did like a three
year contract with Pfizer, We did a contract with Amazon,
We did like some branding stuff with our other consulting firms.
The landscape, yeah, the landscape changed a lot in that

(05:35):
regard because people were like stuff was just kind of
becoming in vogue, and I think they were trying to
do they were trying to do more work with like
just marginalized people and being and not being on the
wrong side history. But then to y'all's point about going
back to work and hybrid being more constant. Now we're
seeing like layoffs becoming like part of just the operational norm.

(05:58):
So and I'm not like, I'm not like super I'm
thirty five, right, So, like I do remember when I
got into when I graduated from college. I remember, you
go to your job, and like if a layoff happened,
that was like something went something was going wrong, Like
it wasn't like normal for cashes to be laid off
in the thousands or whatever. But now like layoffs becoming

(06:19):
more and more of the operational norm, and like there's
this pressure from organizations to like bring people back in
the office. I am seeing and experiencing almost like a
return to pre twenty twenty, where people are a little
bit more hesitant to have certain conversations and where organizations

(06:43):
are still working with us. It's much there's a lot
more guardrails around what we're doing as opposed to just
like this free spirit let's just have these conversations. Shoot,
I'm not even gonna say the brand because people listen
to y'all. But that reached out to me that wants
me to have their chief diversity officer on our podcast.

(07:04):
This was like, no, the chief people officer on our
podect it's major tech company. And then just yesterday I
saw that they had that they just fired a bunch
of people for having a pro Palestine, pro Palestine event,
And so I'm anticipating that, like when I engage with
their PR person tomorrow, that they're going to be like, hey,

(07:26):
can you, like, can we not talk.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
About certain stuff? Right?

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Whereas before I had the CEO Survey Monkey talking about
I love black people, black lives matter. If you don't
believe in black lives matter, you ain't gonna work here.
Like those things, them type of free conversations. That the
tone has changed, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah about to say for me, maybe it's just me. Also,
the election has shifted to like I think a lot
of people fail to realize when people felt free, it
was the people that would come out and like do
the friction. They were underground, and now all of a

(08:06):
sudden they had a spokesperson. So now they're coming out
and people are finding out that these people are your
bosses and your supervisors and higher up in management and
things like that, and they really do feel certain way,
when before they wouldn't say anything, or wasn't important enough,
or they didn't want to get they didn't want to
be shamed. But now they don't feel any shame because
the person they support doesn't feel shamed. So if he

(08:28):
doesn't feel shamed, why should I feel shamed? Round and
the people that are doing the right thing, they make
you feel shameful. And so, like you say, it is
kind of a reset back to you just come in here,
you do what you're told, and then you just go home.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Well, Also, the whole point that I was making the
entire time that the white guilt economy was going up
was get it while you can, because white guilt is
a finite resource and you can't like bud around it,
you can't.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
Plan around you know.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
There's a lot of shows, a lot of people that
I watched get an influx of money, but it was
not sustainable money. You know, I knew people that got
hundreds of thousands of dollars off of white people feeling
bad about that stuff. And we had like a good
little grip too, because it was, like I remember the
first thing they felt bad about really was Hillary Clinton losing,

(09:26):
and that really should have been more of a like
universal loss for America and women especially, but instead it
kind of turned into like black people thing because Donald
Trump rose to power on a lot of it being
racism and bigotry and who's normally the focal about that
in America. And then of course you get the police

(09:47):
killings and all that stuff, and it's going viral.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
I remember there was a point where.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Even Donald Trump said that George Floyd, the officers killed
George Floyd, was wrong, Like so that was how bad
it was us.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
And there was that influx of money.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
But what we always forget about in America is there's
always a backlash or white lash crash to this stuff.
And these corporations are their corporations. They're not actually in
it for the morality of it. Like morality is good.
If you can add a pr benefit to it, it's

(10:26):
good if you can make a financial benefit out of it,
you know, if there's some type of windfall for you.
It's why I always say I believe in Disney capitalism, where.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
Like I'm not.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I don't know what the hell do people at Disney
truly think of me and and gay people and all this.
What I do know is if they see an exploit
in the market where it's like, you know what, people
really want a really gay show, they will just go
make that shit. They're like, fuck it, we don't understand,
but y'all want this. When people it was like they

(10:57):
need a black Panther movie. Kevin Figy dumps two hundred
million dollars into this movie, which is like unheard of
at the time, bigger budget than any other movie. They
had reaps billions of dollars of benefits from it. But
that's because they just unlike say Sony who had who
we found out in these leaks when they had when
they got hacked, Sony was like, can we should stop

(11:19):
making movies with Denzel He probably can't sell overseas.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
That's just racism, right.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Because financially, you should just keep making equalizer movies till
they don't make money.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
That's what you do with everything else.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
But but racially it was fucking them up. They was like,
I don't know, black, can black people sell overseas? I
don't know if you heard this, but the majority of
the people on the earth not white, So yeah, more than likely. Yes,
people will go see this movie that they're the last
thing they're thinking is that it better be a white man.
That's the thing for us here in America. But anyway,

(11:52):
I say all that to get to the point of
the backlash has been strong. It hasn't just been what
it was before, when like teams were putting Black Lives
Matter on the court and they would be like a
grumbling but it was kind of quiet. Now there's a
demand that you take this shit down. They're organizing, they're boycotting,

(12:15):
they're making viral videos, they're threatening people, they're docsing people,
they're harassing people, they're you know, they're going in target
and h and vandalizing the LGBTQ section or threatening employees.
This is a level of aggressiveness that most of these
corporations are not going to be prepared for simply because

(12:39):
there they were never active ast organizations, they were never
with the smoke. It was a good time to say
Black Lives matter because everyone was feeling bad after George Floyd.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
It is now a bad time to put that on something.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
And suddenly they're like, we're getting rid of our DEI initiatives, We're.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
Getting rid of our head of DEI them.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Some people are putting statements, Hey, we don't even have
politics over here. Yes you did, you had them four
years ago. So I think that's what we're really seeing.
And I'm sure that's affecting the conversations you're having. And
you know the landscape of corporate America.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, and also the thing about it, I can see
a I don't know if it's an age thing or what,
but I've looked at corporations as what they really are,
a business that the company is there to make business
morally don't matter. I am here to make a profit.

(13:33):
You show up, I pay you for a job, and
do you go home. There's been a shift in generations,
and a younger generation. A lot of them are like,
my job has to do all these lovely, flowery things
that have to make me feel good and all these
types of things the corporation. That's not the corporation's job.
I'm maybe, like I said, I think because I'm old,
that's not their job.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well, we're getting to a different point. I was going
to bring that up later, but keep going with it.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Okay, no problem, but that's not their job. You know,
their job is you? They put out an application. You said,
this is what I gonna do. We exchange cash, and
that's kind of the end, you know. And I think
that for a generation that my feelings are the most important.
How I feel is the most important thing ever, And
if you say anything that makes hurt my feelings, all

(14:20):
of a sudden, everybody has to deal with my big emotions,
you know type of thing. And I think a lot
of corporations they don't know how to deal with people
who come in, who come into offices like that when
corporate America is not designed for that at all.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Yeah, no, one hundred percent. And like I want to definitely,
I want to definitely speak on that. But like going
back to what and going back to what I was
saying about the backlash, I think what people underestimate And
this is something I was talking to somebody to your
point about age caring. I was talking to somebody who
was in their like fifties, and they were like, look, like,

(14:57):
I know, y'all millennials think that this is like the
first time all this has happened, But like the cyclical
nature of white lash has been going on for like
several decades, right, and so like the idea of white
lash is the negative low key is going to outpace
your positives, right, So, like the white lash in this

(15:18):
context is like we just had on somebody. We had
on the CEO of Hello Alice. Hello Alice is a
company that was under attack by Steven Miller's.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Firm or whatever.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
They're going out and just attacking anybody, anybody that's pro black,
anybody that's pro not supporting white people. They out here
are they're suing and dismantling these companies, right, So that's
like a like they have now they've like operationalized the
white lash. This is not this is no longer to
y'all's point, like oh we just mad, we're gonna make

(15:54):
a hashtag, even we're gonna vandalize a single store. No, no, no,
We're going to institutionalize this and make sure y'all don't
exist no more. And so absolutely, like we're seeing a
difference in the conversation and the comfortability of what people
are trying to do. I mean, stuot I remember like
in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, I got a

(16:15):
bunch of organizations reaching out to me asking if I
would speak or do some programming or some of the
other consultants the work that my company does for Black
History Month. Yo, A bunch of companies this year did
not even do Black History Month.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
Right, those same brands that I just mentioned that I
did years of work with, they just smooth skipped over
Black History money.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Right.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
So, and I just remember, and you know, it would
always and I would have look, I am who I am?
So I'm gonna ask, like, ayo, like what is going on?
Like Yo, We've done like mad business with y'all, So,
like why is there something what happened? And they would
never say. They would be like, oh, well, we're head
count reduction, budget cuts, reprioritization, all the corporates speak for.

(16:59):
We ain't mess with nas like that, no more. Right
And and then and I also agree that it's about
it's about the money, right, the risk can the risk
can outweigh the reward. And blackness in corporate America is
no longer hyper in vogue. So corporations are doing different things.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, it's and it's interesting too because the coordinated methods
that they're using is are so aggressive.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
It's that's the landscape that has changed.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Like it before, you might just have some people that
were disgruntled and they just be like, ah loads and
they roll their eyes. That's different than we're calling that
corporate headquarters. We're going online and organizing boycotts, we're shooting
up beer or whatever dumb shit they're doing. Like, it's
a little bit different. And the corporations obviously aren't with that.

(17:51):
They just wanted an easy win of like black people.
They didn't want to fight with black like, they didn't
want to fight on the side of black people and
deal with what black people have.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
To deal with.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Whenever we out and we voiced our opinions, they weren't.
That was not part of the game plan for them.
And I honestly, I think a lot of this too
boils down to as the pandemic measures wind down, corporations
started looking to cut costs because there's a lot of
corporate there's a lot of money that was influx because

(18:19):
of the pandemic, and there's a lot of industries that
were taking l's because of the pandemic, and those things
are starting to even out. You know, there's your night
life is coming back a little bit more. But you're
you know, and what people are willing to do for
corporate check has gone way down, like it's I don't
want to come into office, I don't want to do this,
I don't want to do that, and so I think
they started looking at budget cuts first thing to go,

(18:42):
d y'all stuff, we don't need that, Like we already
got some written down policy that we probably don't really
enforce anyway, and we're like that was good enough. Nobody was, like,
nobody really was holding us to account before this. And
the job of a DEI direct is kind of the
annoying job, right, it's the it's the yeah, well, actually

(19:08):
that's what that job is. And that sounds cool when
you're like trying to look woke. It sucks in practice
because it's like, oh, we need to spend X amount
of extra dollars to find h to go to HBCUs
to recruit black candidates, specifically to change the culture of
our corporation. Oh, this commercial that we were gonna do,

(19:30):
it needs to be looked at by somebody else because
all the white people in the room thought it was
cool to say, coolest money in the jungle for a
kids T shirt. But that DI person is the one
that goes that's actually gonna make y'all look bad and
you shouldn't do that. Or the person that has to
report and handle like complaints and stuff like that, or
tell you that your corporation is not perfect, because no

(19:50):
corporation is. But can corporations handle that? And I think
we're finding out effectively they cannot.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
They rather fire you, right, they go ahead, Baby.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
I'm sorry, A quick story on that to reinforce. Like
I remember, man, I'm in This was just two months ago, y'all.
I'm having conversations with these people trying to get on
air twenty twenty five budget Karen okay, and they're like, yeah,
let's go, and we're about to sign the contract literally
got it sent out through DOCU, signed and everything. It

(20:22):
got super quiet for like two weeks and I didn't
hear nothing from him. I was like, man, like, what
is going on? Like we met, we had met in person,
like we were cool. And then I saw on LinkedIn
the director DEI was like, Hey, the company I worked
for just made a decision to cut our entire department.
I reached out to their chief people officer and I said, hey,

(20:45):
they fired so and so Siah, they let me go too,
and like that has happened that has happened so many
times over the past eighteen months of just me being
in actual conversation with somebody who's either going to come
on the pod or use one of our services, and
then they just be gone, like like just poof, it's
my bad kind of mean to cut you off, but

(21:06):
like just like just like agreed, like it's I'm having
I'm seeing it in real time.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah, And also I think for me a lot of
the aggressiveness this kind of happened kind of the white lash.
In my personal opinion, all they did was copyed what
black people was doing. Black people laid out a blueprint
on this. People tried to realize us going online and
and us going after people for saying racist thing, us

(21:35):
doc seeing them and things like that. All they did
was take what we had, mimic it, and almost take
it to the next level. Like all the strategy and strategically,
like it's the same get online, get all together, raw
your anger up, constantly, show you pictures, constantly keep you
in rage. Like to me, it's the same thing, Like
we actually laid the blueprint out, particularly when everybody was

(21:57):
stuck in the house. A lot of those people watched
what we did they watched all of a sudden, when
the world stopped and people started looking, they watched them,
you know, the Proud Boys, eight Chan, all these chants.
They watched what we did. They watched these things. They
watched how people bout down and all of a sudden
got scared and didn't want to be called out. They watched,

(22:17):
They took notes and they said, bet when it's our term,
and when we get to the point where we because
we did this because we felt free to do it.
Now they was like, oh our term, we get free.
Here come Donald Trump. Now we are free. Now we
are bold. That's how we get j ready six. Now,
all of a sudden, we're mimicking the same we're watching.

(22:38):
We're protesting, we're showing up in our neighborhoods now like
like like we're doing the exact same thing.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
You're definitely onto something with that. I think.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
It's so interesting because it's like an amalgamation of a
couple of things. Because the other part of this is
white people been doing this for centuries, way before the Internet,
way before black people. It's just always been the lie
has always been black people do such, and then we
need to do whatever.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Right.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
It's always we had to come to their town because
they was raping our women. It's like, and then you
destroyed the financial center of the most rich town of
black people minding their business. So I feel like it
is true that they definitely took notice the internet versus
trolls took notice and copied some stuff. But there's also
like a moment like gamer game where didn't feel like

(23:33):
it came from us, that felt like that was white
people doing their thing. And then that movement, what I
think was what got the notice of a lot of
political right wing people to be like, we should use
this blueprint for harassing other stuff like it was a
trial balloon when they harassed the lady Ghostbusters film and

(23:56):
we're calling you know, was being very rape towards Leslie
Jones and stuff like that makes me wonder, like, you know, well,
I see the roots going back to that, you know,
But I agree in that the tools online of harassment
and stuff like that. I mean, we talked, Me and
Karen talked about this a lot, just in general, but

(24:19):
there's no like there the tools. It's like a gun
doesn't have morals, and so online harassment campaigns of grouping
people together, docsing all this type of stuff doesn't really
have a moral to it.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
It's just who's using the weapon. But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
It definitely has changed, and I think corporations have felt
the brunt of that because you know, there was a
time when people just saw those things as jobs and
that didn't have anything to do with me not liking
this person. And I think at the gamer game when
they actually were harassing gaming companies and the companies didn't
know how to respond and they were capitulating to the harassment,

(25:01):
I think I think they've they've taken that and done
it to like Lows and to home Depot and you know,
and these politicians sometimes and they're not ready for the smoke.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
I have one hundred percent agreed that they are not
ready for it. They were not prepared for it because
the corporation is like, hey, we're just in the job
of making money, you know, anything outside of that. Because
my thing is this, out of all these corporations that
came out and did like June tenth is gone, that's
nothing else that got taken away. But all these corporations
came out, did they did all these things. There are

(25:34):
some corporations that didn't do anything at all, and they're
not on some of your draam screen that you know,
ain't nobody talking about them because.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
You don't have to put out a press release that
you're getting ready to d out department if you never
had one agreed, you know, like just do whatever. I
also think a lot of this comes down to I
think this is kind of like with Target, and there's
a big misunderstanding in like online liberal spaces with Target
versus I don't know, I guess Rick.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
I don't want to say regular people, but just.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
The offline offline So online in liberal spaces there's a
lack of understanding when for some people, not everybody, but
there's like the very performative lack of understanding of like
Target essentially said put out a statement like, hey, we're
no longer gonna like have our LGBTQ section of gear

(26:27):
and stuff in our in our stores, and it was
because there was an online target campaign of right wing
people who were getting more and more bolder, like literally
going into into uh storefronts and physically harassing the people there.
These are just employees, right, we don't know anything about
their moral code or anything. They're just there. They would

(26:48):
sell whatever's in there. Yes, But the what happens is
the right wing people don't just operate in facts and go, well,
we just don't like that there's LGBTQ stuff. No, they
started lying in being like this is a this is
them trying to make your kids be trans, this is
a pedophile suit, this is that. And so they're these

(27:09):
deranged people that live in this bubble of derangement. They're armed,
they're violent, they're belligerent, and so a corporation what we
want to see online on social media, what I saw
a lot of people they wanted like Target to be like, man,
fuck y'all, bring that smoke come.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Up in here.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
That's not realistic at all.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Exact that's not so.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
But then I remember when they put out that statement,
so many people got mad. But I still shop at Target.
I go and Target, the section is still there, the
close are still there, and I said, oh, I know
what you're doing. You're just trying not to get anybody killed,
and and can I respect that? But there's like a
lot of this stuff, is what I'm saying. A lot
of this discussion is happening in a hyper online world,

(27:53):
and then there's a real life world so there's a
lot of companies who they they into the DEI business
to try to get the PR bump. But if you
actually go look at their corporate policies and structures and rules,
they already were supposed to be doing that shit like
like like they like they're like, now we got a

(28:14):
person in charge of telling us to do the shit.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
It's like, y'all knew what y'all know how.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Much more money you get for hiring black people and women.
I've actually I remember once at a company I worked at.
I remember seeing the sheet of like the employees and
they had like a it's like a Excel sheet and
they get like a bump for like, oh black person, woman, this, that,
and so I'm like, they're keeping track. You clearly know

(28:42):
this is way before d I, way before any of
these inities. They know they know what they can and
should be doing, but they don't.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
The point is they don't want to fight.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
They don't want to be into smoke with us, and
so that's why you end up with them abandoning. I
think this stuff in public, and even if privately they
are still.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
Doing it, the them abandoning.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
It and in public is enough for me to go oh, okay,
I see what this really is.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
You was never about this life.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Nah, And I mean as somebody that worked. I was
a store manager at a Target. I remember they put
out that statement and I was like, nah, I listen Target.
For some reason, I don't and I don't know. I
didn't work at a ton of I only did one
big box retail store, like as a part of my
career journey. But people do care about Target, and people
will run up in there protests and trying to prove

(29:33):
a point, like I remember, do y'all remember I think
they called it, I'm gonna say it. I think they
called it like Tittygate or something like that. But it
was it was about It was women who were breastfeeding,
and so we it was about women. Had they wanted
to based of women like I have the right as
a mother if I want a breastfeed at wherever I'm
at with my child.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
So I worked at Target during that time, and it
was a huge and again this was way this was
like way before. This was a minute ago, right, like shoot,
because I was you know, I might have been like
twenty eleven, Yeah, twenty twelve.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
That was right around that was right, around when Twitter
was starting. I remember because it was one of the
first things that went viral on Twitter was Teddygate and
everybody being like, what's.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
This so so check it out, Like to y'all to
that point, Target so coordinated. We got all these messages
and extra training from corporate and they were like, be prepared.
It's gonna be a ton of women coming in here, protesting,
blah blah blah. This is what y'all need to do
work with asset protection. Because I was hr so they

(30:40):
were like, you need to do this. Here's your script.
You need to be prepared to say, do not get
in their way and so again, like and I just remember,
and the core element through all of that stuff was
risk mitigation through safety.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
So hey, we.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Can't have employees getting hurt the debt property damn it.
Just like we have insurance, but the employees gotta stay safe.
And we also don't want to get an interaction with
the We also don't want the guests customers to get hurt.
And so yes, like when I saw that statement about
we're not gonna have I didn't know because I don't
really go to Target like that anymore. But I didn't

(31:17):
even I didn't know that they started to stuff up.
But in my mind, I'm like, well no, because that
makes sense because people are absolutely out of their minds.
They'll go up in there, they'll harass you, they'll hurt you,
and you have a problem.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
On your hands.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
And like you, you and you and Karen, You and
Rod say this a lot online. I noticed I see
Rod said maybe even more than you, as like on
Twitter and real life are not the same. Yes, there's
some things that kind of like intersect or you know,
hit each other, but but it's not the same, right,
And it's like, you can't you can't expect for an
I one hundred percent agree, you can't expect for a corporation.

(31:51):
Corporations aren't here for fighting alongside groups. Corporations are not
here to like make some political statement. Corporations exist, especially
publicly traded corporations. The companies they exist to benefit their stakeholder, yes,
which is their shareholders, so very important, that's very importantly.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Legally, you will have zero cover for any liability if
you put out some type of inflammatory statement courting these
people that we are no we know have guns and
have threatened violence, being like we'll bring it, then we
stand ten toes down. Everybody will retweet that shit online
and then the second someone get killed, they're gonna be like,

(32:34):
it's your fault. You know them people just working there
for seven to seventy five hour they are not ready
to shoot the fair one in a company, in a court,
in a country that has mass shootings daily, Like we're
just no one, no one's ready for that level of smoke.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Another thing we brought up.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
You were talking about generations Karen and how younger people
see things differently and whatnot. And I think Zach is
a little bit younger than us, but like, what are
you seeing as corporations adjust to you know, the our
corporations even adjusting to these like different sensibilities of what

(33:15):
employees want now, because you know, it feels like we're
five years ago.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
We got the article on like.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Corporate uh, what was it quiet quitting and you know
some of these phenomenal you know, some of these phenomenon
that to gen To me as a gen x er,
I'm like, that's just.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
Called a job.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Like like you know, they were like, I'm corporate quitting.
I'm if it's when it's five o'clock, I'm going home.
I was like that's what I have always did. If
you're not paying me bonus money, I'm not doing bonus work.
And but it feels like I, at least for anecdotally,
I'll say anecdotally, it feels to me like corporate speak

(33:56):
must have worked on some level to some people that
really did believe EVE and want to have like that
family value system and everyone here is important and all
that stuff, And I think it's a jen xer. I
never I was just told, don't believe in that stuff.
You are as valuable as the work you can do
for a company, and a company is only.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Entitled to pay you for that work.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
And that's pretty much the relationship and everything positive on
top of that is a bonus and not an expectation. Right,
But I feel like maybe now people are coming in
with different expectations. How are you experiencing that?

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Yeah, so one hundred percent, I think I do think
it's generational. I'm thirty five. My parents just turned sixty
this year, and so I was raised by they're like
they're like young boomers, older gen xers like kind of
where they sit, and so I was raised the same way,
like Ayo, this is a job, Like I come in

(34:54):
and I leave.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Now.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
The challenge is is that a lot of these salary jobs,
they dangle the carried in front of you of promotion
or status or whatever. Right, and you got people high performing,
insecure people like myself who like very much so want
to be accepted and want the award and accolade and
pats on the back. So it's easy to like just

(35:18):
work yourself to work yourself low key to death, like
like no exaggeration, right, And I think, what's so funny
about this whole quiet quitting thing. And it's probably because
I was raised by baby boomers or older gen xers,
is I saw that stuff as bullshit because when you
describe when you describe it as quiet quitting, it's like, Nikki,
you're talking about just doing your job. So you saying

(35:40):
that before that we was doing more than our job
and so now so now you mad that people are
just doing the ten and twos of their job. Like
that don't make sense to me. And so I remember
I clocked it as like, hey, this is like capitalist propaganda,
like you just want people to work themselves to death.

(36:01):
You're not like when you say when you say, hey,
these people are quiet quitting, they come in at eight
and they clock out at five, and then if I
send them an email over the weekend, they don't reply
until Monday. Right, Yeah, that's normal. You should that's what
you should.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Colin it.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Quitting puts that negative connotation on it, and I think, like,
and it'll be It's interesting because I wonder where the
origin is because I can see exactly what you're saying,
where the origin would be from the corporation's point of view,
like to the to you know, the demagogue these people.
But also knowing how online rhetoric works, I could also
see people like hyping up a thing that is normal,

(36:42):
like because people do that all the time, where it's
like they're like, God, forgive me because I know this
is a hot button and please don't write in this
is not me trying to start no ship. But it's
like when you see like a hashtag that's like black fathers,
but it's like a black dad doing a normal thing,
Like it's not like above.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yo, just let's talk about it.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
Like I don't want to start no ship.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I'm not about to get mad. I'm about to get upset.
Abou to get upset.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
But you know what I'm saying Lebron went to his
high school, his high school kids game.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
That's that's a normal thing.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
That's normal Black fathers is Lebron got a kid in
the NBA that shouldn't probably be there.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
That's now.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
See he that's a fucking award, Like get that man,
the Black Father Olympic Award. But just normal shiit like
you you're here with your baby sitting on the couch. Anyway,
My point being like, once again, I'm not trying to
integrate that. I know where that comes from. I know
it's a pushback against a narrative. What I'm saying is
people will hype up shit. That's normal and so quite.

(37:41):
I quiet quit on my job.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
No you didn't. That's just what the fuck you got hired.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
You're working. You're just working at your job. Yo.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
But and look I said before in the pre production,
I hope my mic is too hot because I knew
I was gonna get excited. Listen that hashtag, that hashtag
shit you're talking about. I've been seeing this new hashtag
of like soft black men or something like that, or
soft men. And it was a dude and he was
cooking with some jazz in the background, and it was
just hamburger helper.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Did y'all see that?

Speaker 6 (38:12):
No?

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Oh, I was heated. I was heated, And it's just
hamburger helper.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
You put some extra cream in it and some spanwich.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Not being soft you just that's not being a soft man,
like so what like and it's like, yo, what do
you expect you to pick up like a raw piece
of like a chicken breast and just be biting into it.
He's cooking some food and he's listening to music. So no,
you're right, like the quiet quitting thing it is. So
there is like this hustle and like, man, I swear
like y'all have helped me, like cause y'all do this well,

(38:44):
like y'all interrogate just the trends, right, like why why
are we doing this? Like there is a hustle to
people like looking at something and then like codifying it
in some way or terming like giving some type of
term to it, and then like we see it going out.
So like now that I learned, I know more about

(39:05):
like how the Huffington Post works and Forbes works, and
like it's a bunch of freelancers pitching to these places
and they might only get paid like two hundred and
some fifty dollars on an article like al like so much.
I've just been literally learning because I've been out in
these streets. Is so it's like the individual influencer, they're
trying to figure out the latest thing that they can

(39:26):
say and write so they can get paid, but more
than get paid, so they can go they can go
viral and.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Get their name bigger.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Forbes or the publishing place is happy to take that
because that's getting them clicks to their place. So it
is like this oral borrows whatever that thing is where
the snake's eating itself. It is like the symbiotic, nasty,
frankly cloudy, annoying relationship between like internet influencers and corporations

(39:52):
who are trying to figure out the next thing to
talk about. And then what happens is like I'm not
gonna say sheep because that sounds whatever. But then like
the ma assets will pick it up both on like
the executive leadership side and the employee and the like
the general popular side and be like, yeah, look at
all these people quiet quitting. We need to figure out
how to get these quiet quitters out of here. Then
you got the and so it's a whole ecosystem. Then

(40:13):
you got consultants will come around and be like, hey,
let me help y'all measure the quiet quitters so you
can fire them. Right, So it's a whole it's a
whole machine. But you're one hundred percent right. I don't
think when I say it's capital's propaganda.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
It is.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
But I'm not going to sit back and act like
there's some boogieyman of like corporate raining down.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Bullshit on people. Yeah, more than definitely, like the Internet.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
More than likely it's the corporations using it, using the
internet trend to justify doing fucked up stuff to their employees.
Is like you said, It's like I doubt that they
were like, guys, I'm so sick of quiet quitters. It
was like, hey, did you see there's a new term
for people that just want to barely do their job? Uh,
we gotta go ahead and find a way to get

(40:57):
rid of people that don't want to do more than
their job.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
And that's and so you end up with that bullshit.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
I however, do have a suggestion if you're at work.
This is something that I practice when I had a
nine to five. It's called loud working. Okay, so you
have quiet quitting. I do loud working. By what I
mean is, if you're supposed to be there from like
nine to five, eight to five, whatever, come in loud

(41:23):
as hell, you know, come in and eate, like what's
up everybody? Oh, but bang a bunch of shit around.
Let them know you there, you know, definitely make a lot,
you know, make a make a stink of things, like
don't be mean to people, but just speak to people,
you know, get to learn a few little things hey have.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Working hard, hardly working.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
You know, like just let them see your face a
little bit. And at five, don't just sneak out like
you ashamed, leave like I'm out of here, like whoo,
look like it's about that time, you know, Fox fifty five.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
I'm packing my shit up, like gohead. I used to
be like, they.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Can't shame you if you don't have no shame. I'm
not ashamed that I'm leaving at the fucking time we.

Speaker 6 (42:06):
Agreed to buddy, that's not on me.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
So if you would like to pay me more or
change my hours, we can have another conversation. But I
you know, I remember they used to put that little
pressure on me, where like a manager would come by
and be like, man, when you say it's five o'clock,
you get out of here on the dot.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
And I'd be like you damn right, and yeah, yo,
I quiet, I quiet, I loudly like I remember. And
this is the thing. This is where I messed me up.
Though it is because I wasn't working like hourly jobs.
I was working solarly jobs. But like I don't like. Look,
you got to set your boundaries. So when I would
like when I was a consultant and I had projects,
I would loudly arrive. So I'm coming in, Hey, what's

(42:47):
up everybody. I'm giving people that they know Zach is here. Yeah,
And then I would loudly pack up. Yes, you heard
that thing, you heard the.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah, everything on the table.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
I'm speaking of me.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I'll be speaking to people the way out, Yeah, on
the way out, like I'm less likely. I'm right, I'm
less likely to speak to you throughout the day, but
arriving and going oh.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Yeah, hey, hey you have a good weekend.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
No, you have a good What you're getting into the night,
I'll be saying a while walking by the way, what
you're getting into the night? I don't slow down, But
that's the baby, listen, you got the loud work.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
Make them feel like Rod was here today.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
I used this trick when I was in college.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
I had classes I would only attend like once a week.
But when I was in that class, I was asking
questions and ship teachers loved President. I was President a motherfucker.
I remember it was like white, white lady. This white
lady got mad as hell. She was one of those
non traditional older students, so you know she took it serious.
She was getting a's and everything. Yeah, you're paying real

(43:54):
money here, and she understood what time was worth.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
I was like nineteen, I didn't understand shit, but that
when we.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Got our final grades and she said, what grade are
you getting in this class? And I was like, uh,
last time I checked, I'm getting an A. And she was like,
I'm getting a C. And I'm here every day. And
I don't mean no offense, but I barely see you
in here. I'm like, yeah, but do you be asking
questions like because.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I know they don't know you up in here.

Speaker 6 (44:23):
Yeah, they just know when I'm in here. It's we
up in here learning. When I'm here here, I don't
know what you be doing you be in here choir working.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
This is one.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
This is this is the other thing you got. This
is the one. So you so you gotta you gotta
enter loud, you gotta leave loud. But that middle party
is you also got to be loud about the fact
that you're.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Going to leave.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
So so you come in at eight or nine and
you know you're leaving at five, around like three thirty. Hey,
hey man, listen, I'm wrapping it up. So before I
get up out of here's anything else because I'm I'm.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
I'll be asking, I'll be asking what y'all gonna do
for the night, just so I can tell you I'm
leaving at five. I don't really give.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
A fuck ah what you're doing.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
I don't care what you're gonna do tonight.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
I don't actually care about your life outside of these
walls at all.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
But I'm like, Zach, what you're getting into tonight, big baby?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
And you're like, uh, you know, think I'm sosed to
go to the movies or nothing. I'm like, cool, cause
i gotta get out of here five old clock on
the dot because I'm playing basketball or whatever the fuck
it is. I'm getting out of there. And you need
to know, this is not a one off. This is
a daily occurrence we fit to go through. But listen,
loud working has worked.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
For me, just so you know, and y'all making me
think about the quiet quity things. I think during the pandemic,
a lot of companies started doing your teams, your chats,
your instagrams, your instant messages and what was happening. Companies
were taking full fucking fledged advantage of that because during

(45:50):
the pandemic, numbers showed people work harder than they ever
had before. But you cannot expect employees to work out
one hundred and fifty percent. Motherfucker was stressed. They didn't
know they were going to die like like like there,
so they just kind of a lot of people just
delve into work to kind of take their minds off
of the world. But eventually they were gonna have to
go back to the world and and that quality and

(46:12):
those high numbers were gonna come back down to reality.
And companies don't want to hear fuck we got the
high new employees, Yes you do. I'm not working the
same amount of I'm not one person can't do the
job of three people. And if they can, right and
if they can, they will be missed because that's what
happened at my old job. I have was doing a position.

(46:34):
I got changed to another position and somebody came. They
was like, well caring. They was like, we had to
divide your job between three people. How the hell did
you do all that? I was like, you pay me
for experience, you pay me to be quick, you pay
me to be fast. You keep bringing people in because
this is the thing. They you have turnover, right, so
every time you have turn if you have to waste
your time and fucking training. They don't get to know nothing.

(46:54):
They don't know who to contact, who the email, They
don't know nothing about the system. I've been here for
a while. I know how to work the fucking systems,
and I'm efficient and I do my goddamn job, and
so you know, now you ask, people are like, no,
I'm not answering your teen's message. That's why they want
you to pull the apps on your phone and ship like
this on your personal phone.

Speaker 6 (47:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Some people are like, no, I'm not putting on my
personal phone. I'd be more than happy for you to
give me a company phone.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
You know what I'm saying. I can do that.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Yeah, you know, but you know if and then you
need to pay me, you want me to be overnight,
pay me to be on call in if you want
to pay me to be on call? What is were
talking about? Yeah? What?

Speaker 3 (47:34):
And the other thing about me too is I was
always happy to do the overtime and stuff when they
were paying us, Like that was the other trick of it,
because I I don't know. I just feel like people
just work. They work not smart, and they like they
work hard, but they're not working smart. But I'm like, listen, man,
if they do say, like, guys, we like people to

(47:56):
do five hours overtime this week, I'm always like time
and a half.

Speaker 6 (47:59):
Hell yeah, that's all you gotta say.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Like, I'm just not staying here for five extra hours
because y'all peer pressure me. But if y'all but if
y'all say, if y'all say time and a half, then yeah,
I'll make the fucking time.

Speaker 6 (48:10):
We'll get that done.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
You know, we like everybody to maybe work one day
this weekend. Cool, that's time and a half. Loans don't
getting paid. I'll be here, like, I'll figure that shit out.
I was the best for that bullshit, Like I would
come in with donuts for people and shit, because I'm like,
it's time and a half. It's only one and a
halfs Like, go ahead and get y'all. Y'all think I'm
a great person because I gave y'all Chick fil A
minis and shit.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
But I'm just really here burning my fucking time. I
don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
About this shit, all right, Zach, tell everybody where to
find living corporate, and like what kind of topics you're
talking about lately?

Speaker 5 (48:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So look, you find living Corporate anywhere
you listen to podcasts. If you just put living Corporate
in whatever search engine you use, will pop up living corporate,
you know, and so where everywhere, and then you know
the times we're talking about. It's interesting because we were
here before THEI was super super popping. Then we go

(49:06):
and we hear now when DEI is under quote unquote attack.
So we're still talking about navigating the world of work
at whatever intersection of identity you live at. We're talking
about like career navigation. We're talking about how leaders need
to better show up. We're talking about the future of work,
talking about engaging and workwing gen z people and like yo,

(49:27):
if I can just like share something about that to
like in terms of like the topic you talk about.
And also something that Karen was saying earlier is it
is generational for sure of like this expectation that companies
should be this like affirming communal space, and I think
at the same time, I think corporations are asking for more.

(49:50):
Somebody in the chat was like, Yo, I'm never putting
teams on my phone. Like so back in like the
eighties and nineties, it wasn't no teams on your phone.
So like when you got out of work, you got
out of work like everybody, and I don't know, I
don't think people was like it was a common people
to even like beep you or page you on like
that seven o'clock at night. But there the degree and
expectation of access is like exponentially higher now.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
And so with you if you be like I'm not
doing that right, and then.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
You got people who are like look lerk on your
socials and like whatever, it's weird. Like I've experienced that. Shoot,
I was a director and people and my boss was like,
I saw you tweeted this thing, like can you explain
why you tweeted them?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Up?

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Right?

Speaker 5 (50:32):
And so like it's just so so I think that
there's an x there's an outsized expectation from younger generations
because there's also an out uh for what they're getting
from work, because there's an outsized expectation of what worker
what employers are looking for from their employees at the
same time, and so there's a part of me that

(50:54):
goes cause again like I feel like I'm a little
older soul. I kind of rolled my eyes sometimes, like, man,
come on, bro, like just stop expecting people to whatever.
At the same time, it's like, well, yo, if you
expecting me to work fifty five sixty hours a week
and y'all barely pay me anything, and I really wake
up before the sunrise and I go to bed when
the sun go down, these are things I'm gonna need.

(51:17):
I think ultimately there's gonna have to be some new
middle ground. Yeah, company companies, companies are not gonna be
able to be successful. Like that is a that's a fact, right,
And so it's funny because so I can this I
can say is we have a partner, like we have
the partners we work with now, we work with into it.
We got like a multi year giving with them, and
we're helping to create content to help attract talent to

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their to their Toronto office. Okay, because they're trying to
expand the time. I have seen a through line that
the companies that really understand and are trying to poise
themselves for the future are trying to figure out what
that middle ground is. Are we gonna have sleeping pods
and kombucha stands like we did back in like Google,
like Prime Google days. Probably not, But the companies that
are leading are trying to figure out what that middle

(52:02):
ground is. Then you've got companies on the other side
who are like, Nah, y'all gonna come back to the
office nine to five, don't ask us no questions.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Deal with it.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
And you see they're continuing to do layoffs. They're continuing
the struggle. But anyway, the point is that we're having
just all these conversations about about work. We try to
have a good time. It's not super buttoned up. It's
funny if you ever listening to our conversations, especially when
I'm on with executives, because you can tell it's the
most unbuttoned they've been. I sometimes try to pride and
kind of get them to get a little bit more

(52:32):
comfortable but the idea is just like two people have
an honest and frank conversation after work with some drinks
or before work, and we're just shooting the ship. Being honest.
May maybe tell some jokes. We're gonna get a little
uncomb well, but it's the point is to be.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Honest and have real talk.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
I think your internet connection was breaking up just a
little bit, but I think we got the gis of
of the It's kind of like off the cuff, a
little bit more unscripted conversations with people where you get
them to be a little bit looser than their typical
corporate speak there which is good, which is you know,
I've been on there before a couple of times. It's

(53:15):
been real fun, real educational. I can't recommend it enough
for people. And I know there's a lot of very
corporate minded people, business minded people that listen to the
show that got these good.

Speaker 6 (53:26):
Jobs and want to hear about that job.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
And also like I just I don't ever get it confused.

Speaker 6 (53:33):
I'm gen X to the core, but I'm with the ships.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Like if the kids won't fucking kombucha bars get it,
Like I hope y'all get the ship.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
I'm not. I'm never rooting against you.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
I hate I hate when older people start rooting against
younger people who just want shit to be better. It's
gonna be messy because we're human and they no one
gets it right, you know, And there's gonna be some
situations where I am like, I don't know on this one,
y'all kind of for the moon, and I wouldn't have like, like,
there's a downside to this that you're not anticipating that

(54:05):
that can also be detrimental. But in general, everybody just
want nicer shit and to be treated better.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
And who the fuck is against that.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I've had too many jobs where I hated it and
gave up on the job, gave up on myself and
the job wasn't seeing anything worth pursuing. And if these
other younger generation people had their sensibilities at this job,
I might not have felt that way. I might have
found community in those places. So I'm never gonna detegrate

(54:33):
those folks. Now, I would like to get into some
other topics because Zach does listen to the show, and
we can talk about other stuff if that's.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
Okay whatever, Yeah, all right, yeah, well let's talk about
the election. Let me play the election music.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Running against me, Ka, Kamala hess this. We're not going this,
We're not going that this present, We're not going now.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
So let's be clear about that. Get me running against me?

Speaker 6 (55:07):
All right. The election is heating up.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
We're now officially a week away from the day that
we will all be uh, the final day to vote.
Steve Bannon got released from prison after serving four months
for contempt of Congress. So I guess he'll he'll be

(55:29):
back on these streets causing chaos in the ways that
he typically causes chaos. We'll see how that goes for him,
hopefully not well. Uh the someone sent me this article
just for to hear us talk about it, I guess.
But Nikki Hayley mm hmmm, it's still waiting on Trump

(55:52):
to call her because you know he she got more
primary votes than him in certain in certain places, but
she ended up losing.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
And she We're at that point where you tap.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Into your surrogates, right, this is why you see Obama
out this, why I see Michelle Obama out this, white
see Beyonce out here.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Right, this is typically where you go to the well
of like.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Listen, I'm an old ass candidate I'm I'm I'm tired,
I'm canceling interviews.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
You send a surrogate, you send Nicki.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Haley to go out there and do the Trump thing
for you, but he don't trust her or fuck with her,
and he's denigrated her and disrespect her on so many levels.
But that you would it wouldn't even really be that
impactful if she were to do something like, you know,
in that way, because he's just denigrated her so much.
I can't imagine someone being pro Trump, but then seeing

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Nicki Haley be like, and I'll also pro Trump and be.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
Like, well that's good. But the thing is, you ain't
got no pride.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
No, they don't, none of them do. Afouts don't.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
He don't.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
He doesn't call him fat, he doesn't call him ugly
like he he done told these people to kiss his ass.
He linally said, all y'all gonna kiss is gonna suck
my dick and kiss this ring, and they did.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
This is really why I just I don't think I
could be a politician because I'm you know, this is tradition.
You lose, you step down, You make a couple of
concessions that you give a speech for the guy or whatever,
and it's like, listen, that was the primary, but we
cool now we need a Republican the window. He is

(57:36):
so unconventional. All you get is the disrespect.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
There's no positive side of this, no.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Care about the party or at all.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
But yeah, she's a whole bird for sitting around looking
at the phone waiting on this man to call.

Speaker 6 (57:48):
Because that's crazy, right, big bird.

Speaker 7 (57:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Kamala Harris's campaign launches Freedom Town Fortnite map to engage
young voters.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Let's go whatever it takes.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
I'm telling you, man, they're on top of it. They
just cause like, that's not the kind of shit that's
gonna move people my age necessarily.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
But I don't be on fortnite.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Yeah, but you know who else be on fortnite? Like
Travis Scott, like motherfuckers. It has an impact that we
won't see in our circles socially. I just appreciate the
aggressiveness of this campaign. Joe Rogan put out a statement today,
a tweet really saying that he wasn't gonna interview her
because he was gonna have to travel to her for

(58:31):
just an hour interview, and instead he just had Trump
on his podcast and he's gonna have jd Vance on
his podcast. They both traveled to I guess Austin or
wherever his studio is, and they're probably gonna sit with
him longer than an hour because he does his very
long form, three four hour podcasts. But the privilege of

(58:57):
telling us, yes, yeah, the camp I ain't reached out
to me.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
I'm unwilling to travel to sit.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Down with the with the nominee for president on the
Democratic side for an hour. Hey, it's not that I
don't like or anything. I just want to have a
casual conversation. And I don't think I will get that.
I mean, he's told us who he is in many
different ways, but this is just one of the all time.

Speaker 6 (59:23):
Thanks for telling us who you are.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Rod and Karen.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
When I tell y'all, I saw that statement and I
want I was like, man, I hope, I hope they
let me stay on for the show because I was
thinking about as a podcaster. I was like, man If
Kamala Harris reached out to live in corporate and was like, heyo,
I got you for twenty minutes, right, but you got
to go meet me in Maryland.

Speaker 6 (59:48):
Yep, I would go.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
I'm looking the plane flight.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
I'm gone.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
I'm going, and so equiment.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
It was wild to me, like the privilege, the privilege,
and the frankly, the audacity to think that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Again, it's a week before the election. This is not
like March. The election is next week. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
First of all, people are early one right now, pardon me.
The general election is next week. She reached out to
you and was like, yo, we can make it happen.
And you mad because you only get an hour. Dog,
You know, I just interviewed I interviewed w Camal Bell
and I interviewed Jason Johnson on MSNBC.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
They both was like a Zach, I got thirty.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
Yeah, you gotta take an hour is a long time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
You take what you did now.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
But you know what, so here's a thing I don't get.
But here's a thing though I'm also not making whatever.
You know, Joe Rogan got crazzy bread. Again, it goes
back to privilege. So when you bred it and you're
looking at your downloads, you probably do. I got Look,
let me tell you her something real fast, because again
I've been waiting to be on here. So you know,
when I was signed to Cumulus Media for like six months,

(01:00:57):
they gave me the megaphone log in. So for those
who don't know, Cumulus mea. They got Ben Shapiro and
the dude with the really square head, but all the
Republican guys. And so for some reason, when I logged
in the megaphone, I saw Ben Shapiro's downloads, like they
gave me the wrong access. You know, Ben Shapiro do
like twenty million downloads a day. Yeah, so like Joe Rogan,

(01:01:20):
these people doing stupid numbers. So I guess he's just
literally speaking from various dimensions of privilege where he can say, Hey,
this person who has a fifty to fifty chance of
being the next prison the United States only wanted to
give me an hour of her time and had the
audacity to ask me to come to her.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
And she did not.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Want to pack up everything and come to me. So
I ain't doing it. That's just wild to me.

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
There's also another level to it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
He's signaling to his demographic I won't do this right,
and it behooves him to find an excuse to not
sit down with this person that he has been spreading
salacious rumors and lies about, that he's been intimating falsehoods
and conspiracies about who's much smarter than him, and it's

(01:02:09):
not the boogeyman that he paints her to be. And
so when she sits in front of him and she's
charming and she's much smarter and study studious to him,
when she's fact based, while he's the guy who just goes.

Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
What really okay?

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
When he's that guy, it's gonna end up making him
either a look stupid or b look completely unprepared for
a candidate of her ability.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
Whereas if Trump and JD.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Van's come in there and just lie about Haitians eating
cats and dogs and shit, he will sit there and
let that happen. He's not a very smart, studious man.
He's not a factual man. He doesn't hold anyone to account.
He's just a guy who's like, we're just talking. That's
the whole point of what I'm doing. And he doesn't
like that. Kamala Harrison's campaign is like, we're not gonna

(01:02:57):
just be talking. We want to talk about our platform
for our issues. You have an hour, ask whatever you want,
but understand our goal here is not to talk about
ayahuasca and kick it with you and be friends and
talk about conspiracies and shit, and I think he coward
it out. I think he just honestly said, I'd rather
sit around with Donald Trump and JD. Vance and shoot

(01:03:20):
the ship and have very low expectations. And all my
fans will support it because they already know I'm kind
of a right wing guy who pretends to not be
and and and if she's there in my face, it
just mostly will only go bad for me.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
Yeah. That And Also the thing is half the time
Donald Trump has the time because he because he's not
actually out on the trail, like like doing the ship.
Did he normally not flying across the country doing all
this shit? He you know, he canceling in arrangements, I
mean appointments and shit like this. Yeah, he got three
hours to give you. What the fuck else is he

(01:03:56):
gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I mean, if he's canceling, I don't know if that's
what it is, because if he's canceling on other people,
then he he doesn't have the energy in the time, right.
I just think he makes time for a priority like
this because Joe, But Joe, Joe Rogan is a layup.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Yes, he's just a he's a mark, he's a sucker.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
He's so easy, like if you can, if the guy's
hold platforms, I sit here and just go really wow,
oh okay, that's the perfect buffoon for a person like
Trump to sit in front of. You know, and like
I said, I don't even there's no positive way for
me to spend this, So it's only negative to the platforms.

(01:04:39):
But the reason I said it's so smart for Kamala
Harris to do this media blitz of podcasters is because
they most of them, are the same way. They're not
very smart, they don't have good follow up questions, they
don't know facts. They don't they're not politically astute, they
don't know history. So yeah, go sit down with Charlomagne.
There's no way he's gonna be able to be in

(01:04:59):
your face it actually call you to into the table
on anything for real. He just uses rhetorical like you know,
Facebook meaning type talk speak, speaking points whenever he catches
somebody right, it's always hot sauce in your bag? Did
you smoke weed? Did you listen to Tupac? It's never
a policy issue. He's not that policy guy. So ghosts

(01:05:21):
talk to these go on all the smoke. Those guys
aren't going to be able to break down the history
of presidents and policy and stuff. Everything you say to
them will be new information to them in many ways.
And that's it's not a it's not a knock on them.
It's just not their lane and it's not something they've
seen interested in. So that's why I think she should

(01:05:41):
do all these I think she would have been great
on Rogan, and I think Rogan knows she would have
been great on Rogan, which is the last thing Rogan wants.

Speaker 6 (01:05:49):
This is political bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Former Republican candidate Charge was still in Madison County election ballots.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
I'm telling you at the time, I got to show
my ID though. Time we catch somebody fucking with the election.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
Republican. Uh, there's another one that they caught the dude.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Well, actually, let me make sure this is right, because
it was a tweet, uh, and there was there was
a picture of this dude, and I believe them. I'm
not saying they were lying, but they were saying that
they caught the dude that burned the ballots boxes or whatever.

(01:06:29):
I saw the picture, but it was one of those
things where it's almost too good to be true. So
it made me be like yeah, yeah, and like, and
it was from an account that wasn't a news account
but had a blue check. Yeah you yeah, I don't
know if they really caught that dude. Yeah, I just

(01:06:50):
put Google burning burning burned ballot suspect, and they're not
saying that they've been caught, just that there's a vehicle.

Speaker 6 (01:06:59):
Police are so searching for the person. It's an hour
ago from CNN.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
I'm assumed that that was some bullshit, So I'm not
even gonna finish talk about that story. But yeah, this
dude's fifty one year old Anderson resident named Larry L. Savage, Junior.
He's a candidate in the Republican fifth District primary held
earlier this year. He was arrested Tuesday morning and charged
of destroying his place in a ballot and theft. He's

(01:07:22):
since been released on five hundred dollars cash bond. He
let's see court document show. County officials began testing voting
machines at ten am October third, an event that was
open to the public. Several citizens attended to test and
were allowed to run test ballots through the machines assigned
to the county. Despite being marked test, the ballots were
still officially tracked and countered by the state, including real

(01:07:43):
candidate name as well as differing votes. After testing, officials
found one straight Republican ballot and one right end ballot
were missing. A view of security footage which was subsequently
being live streamed online, showed.

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Us sir it was being live, what.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Was the plan to get away with this anyway? It
showed him handling the two missing ballots. He can also
be heard confirming with an election official that these are
absolutely totally real ballots.

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
In the video, he.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Can be seen looking around the room before folding up
to ballots and putting them in his sweatshirt pocket. After this,
he is seen leaning over to a woman in the
tennis and saying, fucked up the count.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
Less than ten minutes later, I did. Less than ten
minutes later, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Seen leaving the building and showing a man the ballance
in his pocket. The man then pass Savage on the
back and Savage gets in the car and leaves.

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
What was so?

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
What I wonder if this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Is a conspiratorial thing of him saying, because they do
this all the time, I'm going to be the reason
we need to pass election integrity because I'm gonna fuck
it up and then it's like, look what's going on
with the voting machines or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
It's like, you fucked it up. It was fun.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
It worked per you when you were going sabotaged. Nobody
else is doing the things, y'all accusing him of doing.
The woman Savage spoke with after the ballots were stolen
was also streaming the event on Facebook live. Soon after
he leaves, the woman can care can be heard confronting
the election officials of asking him there any missing ballots.

(01:09:20):
At the leaving, he reportedly joined the woman's Facebook live
on his card killer fifty seven account and commented several things,
including three ballots short, lol, and don't take anything. It
was determined he was likely the person responsible for the
missing ballots. Police are granted a warrant to search his
car home. They went next kid at the search warrant.

(01:09:45):
I guess when they talked to him, he said, you're
talking about the ballot. The lady told me I could
take I got the paper you're talking about. I just
rolled it up and put it in my pocket. I
wasn't trying to steal from nobody. He began blaming other
Madison County officials for this becoming a criminal incident, saying this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
Is all political bullshit. Is all of this what you
were caught on camera?

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Yes, we told the security video did not show Savage
ever asking permission to take the ballants.

Speaker 6 (01:10:15):
He reportedly admitted that he did not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
He told officers he thought he could take the ballots
because they were marked simple. If you go to pay
Less or go wherever it says simple, you usually can
take a simple.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
So that's the way I take a simple shoe.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
If they got to shoe up there on display, you
can't take that, Take the one left shoe and walk
over as at the store.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Right, why did he pick Paylas? Why didn't he pick Costco?
Costco is the way you go yet, now that's when
you get the real simple.

Speaker 6 (01:10:45):
There's no such thing as a Payless.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Yeah, he just taking display shoes out of Payless.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
That's what I'm saying. That don't make sense. So that
is the way none of your shoes, Matt, sir, get
out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
So that's the way I took it. I thought they
were fake fucking ballot. However, officials know that the ballots
never said the word fake.

Speaker 6 (01:11:04):
Or simple on them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Okay, So further.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Investigation court documents detail how text matches found on his
phone show he did, in fact know the ballots were
not just fake. Furthermore, both stolen ballots were clearly marked
with it is a crime to fosify this ballot or
violate Indiana election laws.

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
So and he got on on five hundred dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, I got a feeling that they're like, Hill, we'll
be able to keep track of this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
He gonna put he gonna ping his GPS location.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
He's not really a flight risk, just not because he
don't want to leave, but just because he's too stupid.

Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
We know where.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Yes, he also they looked into his Facebook activity. In
one post, he said he is demanding fair, transparent elections
to help restore trust and protect civil rights. Yep, so
it's what I thought. He was gonna sabotage the election,
so he could then be like, well, how can we
trust the results that I even actually lost. There was

(01:12:04):
three ballots missing. It's like you stole them, right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
One of them was you're you're the threat.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
One of them is like your ballot, your names on it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
What you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I want to miss you displacing or missing display, destroying
or misplacing the ballot is a level six felony and
theft Class A mister minor, those are what the two
things he's charged.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
With Level six feling me that I don't I don't
know if it's sometimes it's good if number go up,
but that no, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
I have no idea, but I know there was I
know there was six of them.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
Either.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Draft Kings is reportedly evaluating their ties to Tony Hinchcliffe,
the comedian who made the Races roast type jokes at
the Trump rally. This has been a very telling moment
because one really Draft Kings, y'all ain't finna do ship.

Speaker 6 (01:12:52):
You gotta evaluate it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
He's probably got a big podcast, big dowalos and they're
not finna do ship.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
Or either they'll go away for a while and then
come back after while.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
I think if you say evaluating and you ain't gonna
do shit, evaluating is what you put out to see
if people gonna get mad.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Yeah, evaluating is almost like indefinitely. It could be next week,
it could be.

Speaker 6 (01:13:13):
You're evaluating it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Then they just sit back and flicks for the hit,
Like is everybody online gonna be like evaluating?

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
Fire him?

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
But enough people is probably just like whatever man he was,
they was like, okay, cool. But yet the other thing
is John Stewart on The Daily Show. They have a
clip going around where they said he defended Tony Hinchcliff.
I wouldn't go as far as saying he defended him.
I think that's kind of like internet speak like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
It got little yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
But but I'll say this, John Stewart is a dude
that is friends with Bill o'reley publicly and has them
on this show and they paler around.

Speaker 6 (01:13:50):
John Stewart is not the bashing the morality.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
He's a very much a like he's still a white
dude that's kind of like okay with a lot of
this shit that don't really affect him at the end
of the day. He's not really an ally in the
stand up staunchly against this and that he sees things
from his perspective, and he's a comedian. This is the
same guy that defend Dave Chappelle after's transphobic multiple specials.

(01:14:15):
At this point, John will go on on their defending it,
act like he doesn't really mean it, like Jo So
I don't even I think tarn feathering him as like
defending it is probably too far, but he ain't the
motherfucker to pole on these people. He that's that's not
what he sees himself as his job.

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
I don't even know why people like I think people
treat sometimes people. I feel like people treat him like
he's like some type of like comedic Walter Cronkite. Like ya, yo,
he's just a white dude.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
He's up. He's funny to certain in certain circles. He's
like a funny New York Liberal. Yeah, he a comedian
white dude, Like that's what he is.

Speaker 6 (01:14:57):
He seems like a perfectly good dude.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Like I'm I don't even mean it in a negative,
but he's just a dude.

Speaker 6 (01:15:03):
Like he's not. There's like the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Causes that he's really staunchly about are mostly things that
I think a general personal common essentially be staunch about.
You know, like we should not let the nine to
eleven firefighters die of cancer and not pay their families anything, right,
who the only Republicans don't support that shit. And he's
also a guy that's a little bit performatively. Uh, Like

(01:15:28):
he does this thing where it's like I'm not really
picking the side, because both sides are bad, and I
find that kind of shit to be annoying at this
point because we have lost one side of this country
has gone so far into shitter that you rolling your
eyes and nitpicking at some shit on the left doesn't

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carry weight with me comedically or like legitimately. It just
is not hitting the same And if we had two
proper size that wanted to governor in this country, then
sure's there's a time when them jokes with the landed
with me where I'm like, oh yeah, I can see, yeah,
the Democrats do weird shit sometimes, but no one like

(01:16:10):
the joke he ended the segment on was the one
I saw on Twitter was uh, Tony Hinchcliffe coming to
their to that rally and not doing his style of
roast comedy which is mostly racist throwback shit him that
would be like having Beyonce come to your presidential event

(01:16:31):
and not oh wait, they did that, and that's supposed
to be the joke of like they didn't have Beyonce perform,
And I'm like, this is the conceit of the joke.
It's sleight of hand, but it doesn't really work because
what you're really what you're saying, what I'm hearing is
one side took this seriously, and one is making jokes

(01:16:51):
at a clan rally. One was about entertainment, and one
was about civic engagement. And you can be like, well,
I just think it's all jokes, And of course he'll
opt out and say I'm just a comedian at the
end of the day if you say, you know, this
is kind of a bullshit, but yeah, anyway, I just
I think it's funny. Trump said he don't know the dude,

(01:17:13):
which is always funny because he'll throw a motherfucker under
the bus.

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
Anyway, Right, And they'd be like, we actually have to pitchure,
y'all side by side. I still don't know the dude.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Yeah, and he still he stands by the racism. But
he'll be like, I don't even know that. Oh, y'all
don't like him. I don't like him. I don't know
that motherfucker.

Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
You did all that the kiss up to him just
to get thrown under the bus.

Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
Right. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Supreme Court rejects push to remove RFK Junior from the
ballot in two swing states.

Speaker 5 (01:17:41):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:17:41):
Two battleground states Michigan and Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:17:44):
They basically said.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Removing his name now with early voting underway days before
the election would be impossible, and Republicans want his name
removed because he has become like the protest vote for
for the right.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Yep, now, y'all see how that's why we fuck Jill
Stein and all the other people that we always have
to deal with. That bullshit y'all did, and it's one
of the things. And more more I thought about. I
was like that they shouldn't have took him off in
North Carolina because it delayed the ballance. No bitch, you
won't now stay on out yep, agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Yeah, you wanted to be on there. You want that now?

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
Yep, thank you, Carrie. I forgot my own term performative
and partiality. I couldn't figure. I couldn't figure what the
second word was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Amber Roll said she was just trolling talking about Beyonce's
stealing her speech. Whatever, girl, girl, your whole life is
trolled at this point, like we're not are you the
last person to know?

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
We don't care?

Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Yeah, we know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Fifty cent say he turned out three million dollar offer
to perform at Madison Square Garden at that Trump rally.
All right, okay, but I guess you know what that
really does inform you is that, uh, how much these
people are getting paid to come sit up and beat
a black face of white supremacy at these Trump rallies

(01:19:04):
and ship because, like I said, I don't expect lay.
I think we talked about Chin a couple of weeks
ago where he was about to be at the Gay
Republican gala and they put a put on first on
the fly and we talked about that ship yeah, and
then he but he backed out and then like put
something on Instagram about it. But yeah, but yeah, he

(01:19:27):
didn't he didn't perform. And then the last one is
kind of election related.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Amber Phillips and her like wild ass CNN show that
is basically just like a big ass free for all.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
I'm supposed to know. But I was about to say, who.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Uh she's a black woman, I said, Amber Abbey Phillips,
I'm sorry, guys, she's a black woman. We've actually played
many clubs from her show on here before.

Speaker 6 (01:19:59):
I believe. I believe she's the one where a guy
put his finger in Michael Eric Dyson's face.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Live on the air. There's another conservative guy. There's another
one where Michael Eric Dyson was on there and he
got into it with this woman and later took a picture.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
With her and then now I remember that one. Okay,
so that was their show. Yes, okay, so here she is.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Here's another one of these panels. There's so many people
on the panels, and it's just bullshit. It's it's why
I would say the stuff I say about, you know,
cable news, and why I don't watch it, because they'll
bring on experts and serious people and they'll put like
a bigot on the stand with them and be like
fight like it's Jerry Springer. So Meddi Hassan, who is

(01:20:47):
a journalist and TV like news analysts and stuff, a
very serious man, that very principal man, you know, talks
a lot about Palestine, talks a lot about the election,
like pretty fucking on point guy.

Speaker 6 (01:21:02):
He's on there and he's.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Talking to this guy. Uh Gerdesky is his last name.
And this is what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
If you don't want to be cool Nazis, stop.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Table people by me.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
I never called you. I mean, I'm not saying saying.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
I'm of the Publictinians. I'm used to it. Well, I
hope your beeper doesn't go off.

Speaker 6 (01:21:23):
The thing is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Oh no, right, that's that refers to the plot that
Israel had where they were blowing up beepers and I
think even cell phones that they have put explosives in
to try to kill some people that they suspected were
in hamas and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Inocent people died off of that bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Right, And he just casually threw that out there, just
straight up just straight up racism, really like, I don't
really know what else to call it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
That way, he basically was like, hey, y'all do a
Nazi like ship, and I think.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
It doesn't help that that's your answer. But they bring
on these people that are simply what conservatism is right now.
These people shouldn't be on this on this day, is
in my opinion. And the doucers of this show have
been courting this. They've been this was going to happen.
I I like. Later Abby puts out an apology. I

(01:22:27):
play in a second, but I just want to play
this clip one more time.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
I never call you.

Speaker 5 (01:22:31):
I mean, I'm not saying saying I'm of the Publictinians
on instrument.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Well, I hope your paper doesn't go off.

Speaker 6 (01:22:35):
The thing is that you shouldn't know you said I
should be killed.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
I did not say.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Let me talk about TV, let me let me just
are you right?

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
And and of course he's they're trying to he's trying
to deflect into like you say, you support hamas right,
and he's like, no, I said the Palestinians is like
no of homage like cause like so he could get
something to be like it.

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
And that's why it's justified. They come back from commercial.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Neither guy's there, and I believe Abby puts out like
an They put out a statement on CNN. Uh, there's
zero room for racism with bigotry at CNN or on
our air.

Speaker 6 (01:23:26):
Zero. I see who y'all have in your house.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
I don't believe. I don't believe this is something that
me and just talked about before. CNN actually caters towards
nobody because they complain about how their ratings go down.
You had a core audience that actually y'all had integrity.
People listen, people came to y'all of facts. Y'all slowly
start putting these cooks in, these quacks and these here's
somebody that has, you know, a doctorate degree, and here's

(01:23:52):
somebody we found on Twitter fight. You slowly started doing
that shit, and the fan base is like, hey dog,
this don't make no sense. And then and you started
actually getting some of these these Trumpers and all these
crazy people on there, and your management change, and all
of a sudden, you're catering towards those people. So the
people that were here for facts started leaving. And so

(01:24:12):
once those people started leaving, the people that you're you
are catering towards, you're not going to get the O
l O Hi people with whoever them people is. You
ain't gonna get them people. They're not coming over here
that already got they fix and it ain't you. And
then the people that you did have leave, So of
course your rating's gonna drop. You're satisfying nobody. You know what,

(01:24:33):
O h N you know what. I'm oh, okay, I
couldn't remember the letters.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Okay, no fut zact where we're gonna say, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:24:41):
No you could be Oh this is And it's tough
because there are a bunch of people right now coming
for Abby saying like this is your fault, blah blah,
and it's like, look, respect to Abby Phillips. These people
in these chairs hosting these shows, they're like mascots. They
don't actually run the network right, so one hundred percent,

(01:25:01):
like CNN has been making this push towards this center
right audience are trying to capture almost if they're trying
to compete with Fox News, and it's like, look, people
ain't about to watch that. Like, if I want to
see right wing commentary, I can go to Fox, I
can go to that other one. There's a couple other
weird ones out there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
I'm not going to see an in for that. So
it's like, who is like to your point, Karen, It's
like it's ain't engaging nobody. And so it's like, yeah,
like yo, Abby, you made your statement. Cool, but I'm
not about to I'm not gonna dump on her. It's
just like, what do you expect. Somebody I think somebody
said even said like this is like Cisco and Cisco
and Ebert or whatever. We're not Cisco and Eber, the

(01:25:43):
people with the tigers. It's like you expect eventually get bit.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
That's what I said on Twitter. That was you, Yeah,
I said, Abby, and CNN issuing like a statement or
even an apology is honestly like the tiger bys Roy
and then sigmundologize to the audience. It's like, well, this
is abound to happen, y'all fuck with tigers every day.

Speaker 6 (01:26:05):
And I do know what you mean.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
I blame the production because the talent typically at those
type of institutions, especially after what CNN has done to
gut the talent, Yes, that have had authority and had
some level of you know, tenure there, you don't have
as much say. And so whoever's producing that shit, they

(01:26:28):
want this, and that may come from high up, right,
it might like the producers are getting somebody like we
need X amount of Republicans. Don't put another panel together
with no Republicans, no conservatives, right, but conservatives are batshit.

Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
At this point.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
There's very few of them that are reputable or understanding.
If it's not Michael Steele, it's pretty fucking hard to
find one that will at least be like, hey, y'all
are right, some of this shit is crazy. And so
if you end up with people like this who are
making jokes about you getting killed by Israel because of
something you said on Twitter. But yeah, they said they

(01:27:06):
had the zero tolerance for it. She put out an apology,
but like I said, it just for me, it just
doesn't really mean much because it's just it was a
matter of time. It's watching NASCAR and going one of
these days, we're gonna see a wreck.

Speaker 6 (01:27:19):
That's just kind of what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
And we can pretend that that's not what everybody's watching for,
but come on, guys, that's what everybody's watching for. All right,
Let's get out of this segment and get into another segment.
Let's do a little bit of fucking with black people.
Put on my fucking with Black people music, Fucking with.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
Black people, fucking with black people, fucking fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
With black people, walking with black people. Uh So, Halloween
is approaching, or as I like to call it, the
annual black face Competition.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
And last we got some contested.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
The last few years, I feel like Pickens has been
going pretty bad because you know, the George Floyd stuff
and you know, everybody got woke and d y'all and us,
and you know, white people was learning.

Speaker 6 (01:28:20):
It was like, oh, I don't want to be considered
this anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
But you know, with this, with the white lash and
full effect, I feel like they feel like the coast
is clear, trying to break out the sharpies or the
shoe polish, the shoe polish or whatever, And so we
have today as contestant who decided to do a Halloween
costume of Diddy and Baby.

Speaker 6 (01:28:42):
Or it's two of them.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Oh and uh, this is the picture?

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
What what is it?

Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
Yeah, it's it's some old school old school.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
And I'm like, when did he like this?

Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
Yeah? First off, why are you dressed like mister peanut?

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Like you're You're dressed more like Farnsworth than Diddy. Yes,
he ain't never ship it like it's like he heard
like someone said, hey, you should do Diddy and Baby
or and he said, who's Diddy?

Speaker 6 (01:29:23):
And they said, a black dude. What's he known for?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
It's like a well dressed black, say last player. And
he went and got him a bow tie and some
shoe polish.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
Didn't look for no pictures online, nothing, just don't just.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Ruin it, nothing, no research.

Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
And he looked young.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Is he wearing a shirt? Is he wearing a shirt?

Speaker 6 (01:29:43):
I think that is a shirt?

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Is that a shirt? Is this bench chest?

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
I think it's a shirt. But let me see if
I can make it bigger.

Speaker 6 (01:29:52):
I think it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
A because I was looking at it.

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
I can't even tell y'all right, it might not be
a shirt? What is this? Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:30:01):
I was trying to figure I was trying to I
was trying to figure out, like, man, just what was
the calculus in putting this fit together? I think the
wild part about all these black face photos is like
it's like no one ever learns, like yo, I get that.
You think you have the cultural capital to I guess
do this in this moment, But you not. This photo's
gonna exist like thirty halloweens from now right.

Speaker 6 (01:30:23):
You know, I don't think he has on the shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
It does have a chain on and does not Like
why didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
Why didn't he blackfaces chess or black chests chest? I
don't know what we call him that, but why didn't
he do that?

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
That foundation is bad?

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Yeah, oh he didn't put a lot of effort into it.
And look, I'm a person that gives credit for effort.
I know other black people don't, and that's fine, But
I am a type of person that if you put
them together one of these black face outfits and I'm like,
well they do look like Ludacris, I'm willing to take
a couple points off to be like you shouldn't have
did blackface but I can't go with a hundred or

(01:30:59):
your cars because if I was looking up real fast,
I'd be like, oh shit, that's fifty cents. This dude
don't look like it at all. I don't know why
he did it. It just seemed like a very bad idea.
And so yeah, I have to say I passed around
the room Karen, zero too, hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
This gets a hundred because I do agree you're shirtless.
You need you didn't even you didn't even want to
put a shirt on, sir. And also I'm an extra
math for the baby. Or you didn't even try to
get an image of a bottle like you know what
I mean, like like like wrap yourself in a bubble
or something that to imitate it. You know, you didn't

(01:31:41):
even have like the little top nothing. So you know,
it's funny the point the punts go up. But it's
also yeah, you get the marriage too, which make it
go up because you didn't even put in the extra effort.

Speaker 6 (01:31:53):
Yeah, like Tucker Carson, that's bad. What about you, Zach?

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
What would you give a zero.

Speaker 6 (01:31:58):
To a hundred?

Speaker 5 (01:32:00):
You gotta get it, gotta get a hundred. I think
him and Carrie Lake got the same makeup personal, and
so we gotta figure out, we gotta figure out what's
going I had to get a joke in here somewhere.
Y'all are too funny, but nah, it got to be
one hundred, absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, man, let's let's keep it again.
What about give it a hundred as well?

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Uh, you know it's and honestly, man, from being real,
it's not even really a one hundred for me, It's probably
like a fifty. And you know why it's a fifty
because part of me was nostalgic for this, like it's really.

Speaker 6 (01:32:36):
Been dry out here for a couple of Halloweens.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Yeah, I had it since twenty twenty. I don't think
we had a Halloween with black face, and I don't know.
Just something about this really signals fall to me. It's
like the changing of the we. It's like Starbucks releasing
the Pumpkin Spice. When the fuck is black Face supposed
to be coming back? Okay, we're back. We the recipes
are returning. I feel feel like I'm back in America again.

(01:33:02):
I'mna only give him fifty. I'm gonna go light on
you this one time out of nostalgia. Even though you
earned a hundred, but I'm gonna give you fifty because
I'm a little bit like, oh, yes, I remember this feeling.

Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
Justin Trudeaux love a black face where it was like
real even it was that was something I don't want
to say it was beautiful black face. That sound crazy,
but you could tell like he sat down with the
effort and someone really patted that yes, blended.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
And everything put off the sponges or that governor in
Virginia that did black face. But he was like, I'm
willing to do my moonwalk to show y'all that it
wasn't no racist.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
I don't mind it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Then I appreciate I appreciate his wife not letting him
do that moon walk. She was like, no, baby, baby, stop,
don't don't be cause he won't walk Virginia the freedom
after that, you love. All right, let's do guess the
race and then we'll do sore ratchetess and we'll get
out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
I guess the race. Music, there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
It's time to catch the race. It's time to the race.
It's time to catch the race. It's time to catch
the race.

Speaker 6 (01:34:19):
All right, guess the race.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Time go around the glow, find different articles guess the
race of the people involved. UH Today's contestants Karen and
Zach from the Living Corporate podcast and of.

Speaker 6 (01:34:28):
Course the chat Room, which is racist and plays long.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
An Arkansas, a couple tried to sell their baby for
a six pack of beer and a thousand dollars at
Ozar's campground.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
That's a cheap ass baby, a yung.

Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
Well what's the going rate for a baby?

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
I don't know, but I hope it's a little bit
more than that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
A young couple is facing a criminal charge that they're
trying to sell their two month old for a six
pack of beer and a thousand dollars at an Arkansas
print campground.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
Two oh no, Yeah, the price of the brick go
up when they get too they can move around too much.
Two months, oh two months okay, as I said, okay,
by saying now that get too big, the presid brit
gotta go because they're more expensive.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Darien Urban twenty one and Shlene Eller's twenty of rogers
are charged with one count each of them dangering the
welfare of a miner and attempting to accept consideration for
relinquishment of a minor. They said the police wiceive a
call from a manager's office at the Hideaway Campground and

(01:35:25):
RV Park in Rogers. The caller said the parents of
a two month old baby tried to give up their
baby and exchange for a six pack of beer.

Speaker 6 (01:35:31):
And then the money. Well, first of all, how do
you start that conversation?

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:35:37):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
You walk over with the baby, You sit down by
the campfire, and I'm like, oh man, what a beautiful baby,
beautiful family, And you're like, it could be yours for
a six pack and a thousand dollars if the price
is right. I mean, what you if you how much
you really like this.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
Bab I mean it's fresh out of the oven.

Speaker 6 (01:35:56):
Basically you say you can eat them all up. I
mean you technically could.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:36:02):
I think they had to negotiate up and settle down,
though I don't think they started at a PA.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
That's what I'm guessing too.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
I wonder if they because the six pack obviously is
thrown in like that's just that's because the thousand dollars
is the real Like the news is trying to.

Speaker 6 (01:36:16):
Be funny obviously, Yeah, the news is like a.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
Six pack and a thousand dollars. No, it's a thousand
dollars and a six pack. I'm one hundred percent sure
that's how that went, because you know what you can
do with a thousand dollars buy a lot of six packs.
So that doesn't even make sense the way they framed it.
But I do wonder if they were like five thousand
dollars in a keg and then it just kept going
down to write two thousand dollars. They were like, noers,

(01:36:48):
the baby starts crying, Okay, a thousand down?

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Uh here down.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
They found a letter that said, I, Darren Urban and
Shaleene Eylers are signing our rights over to the name
of a of our baby boy name redacted for one.

Speaker 6 (01:37:03):
Thousand dollars or nine twenty one twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
The letter with a couple are less that sign Frothers said,
disclaimer after sign of this, there will be no change
in y'all to his mind and to never contact again.

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
They do they not know that you can actually take
a baby and go.

Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
Drop it off at the fire department.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Yeah, Like, well, here's my question too, what kind of
person's in the market to buy a loose baby?

Speaker 6 (01:37:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
Like loose?

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
It's a loose baby.

Speaker 6 (01:37:31):
It is a loose baby.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
You just you just keeping loose baby. Change on you
like that, right, you always in the in the market
for that dude.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
The baby come in the pack and you just you
just grab one up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Because I wanna tell you right now, I'm not ready
to buy a moped off a person. Like if I'm
walking down the street and a person pull up, like
I got this moped one thousand dollars I want. There's
so much paperworking questions. I got a baby, a whole
lass baby, a.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
Whole Lass baby. And then you was like, don't ever
tap me again.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
Is this even your baby? That's a great question you
might be trying to hand out. Yeah, I'm gonna need
the baby facts.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
I can't. I can't just I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:38:11):
I can't, I can't just take I can't just take
this errant baby.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
When is a maleage on this baby? And our return policy?

Speaker 6 (01:38:19):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
And I already know that the motherfucking baby credit fucked
up because the kind of person that sells a baby
does definitely put some credit in that baby.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
Now you know that baby? And oh yeah, baby got
a billity.

Speaker 6 (01:38:29):
On them, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
And maybe a college loan.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
Yes, Duke Power is looking for that baby. Yes, they
gonna as soon as you get that baby, you're gonna
start getting phone calls from from from spam. Likely like sir,
there's the matter of twelve thousand dollars credit card that
the baby took out.

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
You need to go ahead, you responsible, as the guardian
now saying so the man the taker spoke to others
in colding.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Woman said earlier that night, ellers came to her camper
asking for a beer and left when she and her
husband said no, saying he was concerned about the couple's baby.
Another man told the woman he was going to get
a couple some beer so he could have the baby overnight.
The couple agreed and gave the baby to the second man,
along with a diaper bag. The second man brought the
baby to the first man, who was in another camper,

(01:39:20):
and said he said he gave a couple several cans
of beer in exchange for the baby. The woman said
the baby smelled like ammonia and fecal matter and his
diaper was full.

Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
See is this?

Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
See this is what.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
I was thinking might have happened, and I would do
this and if somebody was if I saw someone trying
to sell their baby for beer.

Speaker 4 (01:39:42):
I would be like, I.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Will take that baby off your hands, and I will
absolutely call the motherfucker police, like for the safety of
the Yeah, because like I'm scared what happens if everyone
tells you no.

Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
You don't really seem like the baby raising type at.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
This point, I don't want to. I don't want to
see no baby on the news, like damn. I had
an opportunity to say that child, and I was like,
I won't no bullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
Chah, I know we fucking around and be Tarzan. And
you'd been like, what happened?

Speaker 7 (01:40:11):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
Why is that some random baby out there out there
swinging from the vines and bullshit?

Speaker 6 (01:40:15):
When she changed his diaper, she's Arkansas, it will be pigs. Yeah,
yeah uh.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
When she when she changed his diaper, she saw that
he had a heavy rash, blisters of swelling on his
butts and generally yeah damn. She also she saw dog
hair inside the baby's diaper. Soon after, Urban and Ellers
came to the camper where the second man and taking
the baby. Urban and Eller spoke to the two men
and signed the letter, which the first man told the
deputy he drew up per daff David. The first man

(01:40:43):
said he gave no money to the couple, but told
him he would give them a cash his check for
one thousand dollars on Monday. The detective then spoke to
the second man, who appeared to be heavily intoxicated.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
Yeah, that have to be because ADS doesn't make sense
for you to be like, I'll wait, you know, you
get my money. So I was like, it gotta be
drugs or like, like, y'all feel like it's something that's
kind of altering the minds of the adult.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
When they say the second man appeared to be heavily intoxicated,
that is not the father. That is the middleman who
gave it to the first man. So he said, I'll
give you yeah, and I'll take that baby off your hands.
And so they gave it to a drunk man, and
thank god, the drunk man ended up going to the
first dude.

Speaker 6 (01:41:27):
He had enough sense to be like, like, we should.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
Probably call it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:31):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
I don't think I think my negotiation skill is bad, Bob.
I got a baby out of it, and I think
that you need to call somebody. I shouldn't be having
no baby. I don't know how I got this baby
in my hand.

Speaker 6 (01:41:45):
And they told the Urban.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
The father said he was with the first man, the
guy who ended up eventually telling the police and that
the baby was undergoing an adoption. The two parents were
detained taking the Sheriff's office for further questioning.

Speaker 6 (01:42:00):
When interview by thirty Is, a couple allegedly gave.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Similar accounts to the event, saying that the first man
created the agreement, they videotape to ensure it was legal,
and they planned to legalize it on Monday. The first
man claimed he spoke to Elers who told him it
was not working having three dogs and a baby, and
we surrendered the baby to him for one thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
That's not how any of this works.

Speaker 6 (01:42:22):
The two creators at all.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
Yeah Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
Urbone was released on fifty thousand dollars bond. According to
online jail records. Eller's remains on fifty thousand dollars bond.
So he got out. She didn't somehow. I guess you
gotta go take someone, gotta take care of the dogs.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
Yeah, And it's one of them things where it's like
you gave a whole less You don't know what would
have happened to that child. You know what I'm saying,
if it would have if it would have fallen into
anyone else's hands, beside the drunk man who was like this,
I don't think I need this baby.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
The Arkansas Department of Human Services caring for the baby.

Speaker 6 (01:42:56):
I guess the race of.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (01:43:02):
Darien Urban and Selene Ellers Karen.

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
I'm gonna white?

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
What about you?

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
I'm going I'm going baby powder white?

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
All right, let's take the chat room. Sounds metthy white.
White because they always choose dogs but babies. They got
rid of the babies, but kept the dog the baby,
but kept the doll whiter than black faced daddy's chest.

Speaker 6 (01:43:28):
White does the diaper used to be? All right? White
as fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
The correct answer is, and everyone said the same thing,
but it is white.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
Yeah, I'm impressed that everyone said white because the names
are black to me, Darien.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Like that's some black ass.

Speaker 6 (01:44:01):
Darien Urvin too urban as a last name. You know,
Urban is.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
Already you for when you want to say somebody black,
but you know better than to say it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
But didn't you also say that was that like a
trailer pard?

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Oh no, no, no, I'm not saying y'all are y'all
obviously got it right.

Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
Okay, right, Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:44:17):
I'm saying I'm just surprised no one said black.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
Oh okay, I would have guessed black.

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
Not Yeah, because the names, not only the names, is
good enough for me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
I don't even really need to hear the rest of
the article. I'm like, I know a Negro when I
hear a Negro name. All right, let's go with another one.
Florida man is jailed on felony spaghetti all my battery charge.
A Florida man is behind bars after being charged with spaghetti.

Speaker 6 (01:44:48):
I guess spaghetti battery.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
The spaghetti a salt.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
He beat somebody with the spaghetti.

Speaker 6 (01:44:54):
Yeah, well, more than likely threw it. But let's let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
Police say that Marquell Royal, or maybe Marquel Royal, he
got in.

Speaker 4 (01:45:03):
A saucy situation.

Speaker 6 (01:45:06):
I could help it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
I'm sorry, y'all was getting a little too spicy for
the pepper, A little bit quite a noodle. So police
say that Marquelle Royal forty and his wife were arguing
Sunday evening about Royal's abuse of alcohol.

Speaker 6 (01:45:28):
When the domestic never good.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
When the domestic dispute got turned violent, Royal who CoP's
report appeared to be in top Kter became our right
and through his bowl of spaghetti at his spouse of
nine years. The noodle struck the forty four year old
woman on the front of her body and her stomach.

Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
Upon arriving at the Pears residence, officers found a victim
coven in spaghetti sauce. Since Royal's lengthy criminal history includes
a twenty eighteen conviction for battering his wife, with whom
he has three children, he was charged with the hands
felony battery account as Bob said that fifteen thousand dollars
to the court here and yesterday. He remains locked up

(01:46:02):
and has been ordered by judge to have no contact
with his wife. His rap sheet spans twenty years and
includes ten cocaine possession convictions, as well as other drugs
and firearms.

Speaker 4 (01:46:12):
Well, damn, some of this was you know ten y'all
been together for nine so one of these years was beforehand?

Speaker 6 (01:46:18):
Well, caaren, guess the race white? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
What is that food?

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:46:27):
I don't see a black I don't care how much
coke a black person with snort? How don't are they
throwing fresh food?

Speaker 6 (01:46:34):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
All right.

Speaker 6 (01:46:35):
Let's check the chat room, Joe said.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
Italian.

Speaker 6 (01:46:40):
Joe said, lose yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
That's mom spaghetti black because that were stupid amount of spaghetti.

Speaker 6 (01:46:46):
At Allah, black Mama.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
This crime responsor by Hennessy Black twenty years of shenaniganst white.
Marquell is definitely black, not a white man black, says Trey.
So it's very divided. Karen and Zach went white. The
chat room went mostly black, with a couple of whites
in there.

Speaker 6 (01:47:05):
The correct answer is.

Speaker 4 (01:47:09):
Black.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
Let me for those who didn't, Oh wow, come on, Mark, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
Yeah, have some black man to be wasting food?

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
When got his beard trimmed up? Just to go spend
some time in jail. All right, time for the bonus round.
Let me play the bonus round music.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
It's time to the race. It's time. It's time to
the race. It's time to guess the race.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Final story. An MTA bus driver is being held a
hero after spotting a little girl walking the streets of
New York City alone. Oh Louis yemen As, sixty, was
wrapping up his morning shift when something caught his fatherly
et a five year old girl walking on the sidewalk
by herself near one sixtieth then Broadway on Tuesday afternoon.

Speaker 6 (01:48:23):
We have a saying in the MTA.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
If you see something, say something, he said to ABC seven.
Well with me, I will do something, he added with
a smile. The Harlem resident kept his eye on her
through his front window for about a block before ultimately
deciding to pull over, call this dispatcher and have a
passenger phone nine one one.

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
Yeah, baby walking for a block. You go and nobody
is trying to be like hey or you don't want
nobody to walk up and just yank the baby and
just run off with the child.

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
And with the help of other riders, ye min Nas
was able to get the little girl with a school
bag steal in hand on the bus safely.

Speaker 6 (01:48:57):
Her school of reported.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
The kindergarten they're missing at and she didn't show up
the class. Although she didn't have any prior history of
missing school, she had a different plan for that particular day,
skipping out to go to a pet store.

Speaker 6 (01:49:08):
Oh no, child, did she get.

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
Up with the baby that drove himself the target.

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
See, the little girl's fish had recently died and she
was on our way to replace he beloved pet. The
five year old that walked already ten blocks from the
safety of school grounds before she was spotted. Thankfully, he
decided to work that morning. After initially considering calling out sick.
His instincts quickly kicked in. He was able to get
the child into the right hands or back to her

(01:49:35):
family safety. My instinct as a father came on because
if I see a kid in the streets and need
a help, I would want somebody to help one of
my children or one of my grandkids, he said. He
was born and raised in the city of Civicy, Washington Heights.
Your men, as have said, to treat each of his
writers like they're simply an old friend.

Speaker 5 (01:49:55):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
This isn't the first time he's recognized for his hard working,
positive attitude. When the pandemic shut down the hustling the
bustling streets of New York City in twenty twenty one,
he knew that it was his duty to get the
essential workers to and from their jobs each day. He
worked twelve hour shifts month after month as the virus
continued to spread. Wow, but his dedication to the bookboard
the city was recognized, and he was one of the

(01:50:17):
essential workers chosen by the NFL and CBS Sports to
be featured in the Super Bowl pregame show New York
Don't Stop. He told CBS News, we moved New York
if we stopped New York stops at that time when
I was needed, I was able to say that I'm here.
So just last year, New York Liberty, a professional American

(01:50:39):
basketball team based in the city of Brooklyn, celebrated Black
History Month on their YouTube channel by Spotlight. Oh wait,
damn it, son of a bitch that just told y'all
his race black. A great story, though it is nice
not to have a criminal story. Just like, just look
at his cool ass black man. All we get a

(01:51:01):
free space, free space.

Speaker 6 (01:51:03):
Yeah that was I. Oh man, Sorry, I messed that
one up. Guy.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
That is sweet.

Speaker 6 (01:51:08):
But that's the little girl walking down the store.

Speaker 4 (01:51:13):
Trying to trying trying to get to the pet smart
This is my question.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
Do she know what a pet store is? Or is
she just walking to she see a pet store because
it's New York.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
I think she just I bet you she had an idea.

Speaker 4 (01:51:24):
Yeah, eventually she was like, I'm gonna see some dogs
or some shit in the window, and I'll just walk
in because it is New York. And I feel like
you go run across the pet store.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
You walk in any direction long enough, you're gonna find something.

Speaker 4 (01:51:35):
You're gonna find what you need. Any direction, just just
walk a few blocks whatever you want. You're gonna find
a corner with it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
Now, all right, Well, Ship, that's on me. Let's do
I'll do one more because I fucked up. I'll do
one more.

Speaker 6 (01:51:48):
That's a free space.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Boston Police are seeking the public's help and identifying the
suspect wanting for throwing a box of french fries at
another person inside of McDonald's restaurant on Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:51:58):
Damn the food that's then keep taking the ales, Lisa, didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:52:03):
Throw the onions.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
Get something different on your face.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
The incident occurred at three forty five pm on Monday,
when a man allegedly threw a box of French fries
at a victim inside of McDonald's. Police said the man
is wanted on an aggravated assault charge.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
Damn is this Mixteve with some minimum rage too? What's
happening to neil Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
The suspects is described as being heavy set, around thirty
years old, wearing a black Chicago White Sox baseball cap,
a black hooded, nake shirt, black shorts.

Speaker 6 (01:52:32):
And gray sneakers.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
Anyone with information please contact Boston Police detectives.

Speaker 6 (01:52:38):
They don't say his name, but I do have his picture.
Guess the race.

Speaker 4 (01:52:42):
I'm gonna go white because it's Boston. I might be wrong,
but you.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
Know I take you through those fries wicked hot. Yes,
all right, Zach? What about you?

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
That fit sounds so disgusting. I can't. I don't want
to believe a brother or a black person at that on.
So I'm against white also all black everything.

Speaker 6 (01:53:02):
Okay, check the chat.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
See with the gray shoes, funky bunch, white, he throw
any rocks and Asians on the way out, white socks.

Speaker 6 (01:53:12):
Losing trauma. White. A lot of a lot of white.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Going around on the podcast right now. Well, you got
everyone said white, white sucks equal white. The correct answer
is he was black. You all missed it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:36):
We're throwing fries and spaghetti. What's wrong with us?

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
That's him right there with that that fit, I mean
it looked like it matched the me. The gray shoes.
The gray shoes, I think is what what fucked it up?
But I can't see the shoes in this, But the
like this is an acceptable fit. But you it is
the fit of a man that causes disturbances at McDonald's.

Speaker 6 (01:53:58):
That is, that is factual.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
If you walk into McDonald's with that, I'm assuming some
songs going down.

Speaker 6 (01:54:07):
Trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
Yeah, no word if the Great Shoes was Air Force one,
but I think we all assume.

Speaker 6 (01:54:14):
That that the worst there.

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
All right, soord ratchiness the longest sound effect. M all right,

(01:54:41):
I wait, let me pause this before to start playing
Smile by Kirk Franklin. A man spit on a police
officer and he had a samurai.

Speaker 6 (01:54:50):
Sword with him.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
What damn?

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
I think I can play this news article so we
can listen to it. Let's see, boom, turn off the
volume we want here.

Speaker 7 (01:55:00):
Well, he said, they arrested a man carrying this samurai
sword on David Road in Monterey Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
Knife.

Speaker 7 (01:55:07):
They were responding to a report of an intoxicated man
causing a disturbance inside a home. Officers said when they
confronted twenty four year old Giuseppe Abrisetti, he charged them
with a kitchen knife before taking off through a bathroom window.
He took the sword with him. He was then again
confronted by police on the street, where they used pepper

(01:55:29):
spray and sponge rounds to finally subdue him and make
the arrest.

Speaker 4 (01:55:34):
That she like an anime sword like yeah, like literally
it looked like a sworder put out the anime.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
Yeah nah, that's some that's like Shenobi the video game
type sword.

Speaker 6 (01:55:45):
Yes, it's also.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
Wowd that he should come with a sound to fix
It's also wild.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
Yes, that he didn't have the sword on him when
they showed up, but grabbed the sword on the way
out like I'm gonna need this later.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
Ohhit about to go down? Let me let me grab
the two right like?

Speaker 4 (01:56:05):
Did he also will not just on him my Clinton?

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
Did he also do those like NW yourtoe hands and
then throw down a smoke pellet?

Speaker 4 (01:56:13):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:56:14):
He did like he wants to have been like shut alone soup.

Speaker 4 (01:56:18):
Like where did he go?

Speaker 6 (01:56:19):
Where'd it happened to the sword? Zach? Tell the people
once again, where to find you?

Speaker 5 (01:56:24):
Man Man, Living Corporate Man just everywhere everywhere you listen
to podcasts. Got a website Living dash Corporate dot com.
If you google Living Corporate, We're gonna pop us find
a stare man.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
Appreciate you, no doubt, man, Thanks for coming on the show.
I always enjoy talking with you, keep catching up with you,
glad everything's going well over there with the show. And uh,
you know, listen, you wanted a few people that took
our advice. You asked for advice. We said, be consistent.
It is not sexy, it's not fun.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
Most people just blow us off.

Speaker 6 (01:56:52):
Most people say sure, and then three months later they'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Like, uh, y'all really met that, So yeah, did shut
out to you, bro, And much success to you everybody else.
Once again, no balls deep. This week, multiple Hornets games
will be going to so we'll see what the schedule
looks like for any other stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:57:12):
Until next time, I love you, I love you too,
Tah

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