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Speaker 1 (00:01):
A job les.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
What's up? Brother ship?

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Having a good better day? Now?

Speaker 4 (00:10):
All right, let me get ready to get a started
recording here we were just behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Just now.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Right back, Okay, I should it be starting about five
seconds three?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Is it a delay?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
No, we're in now. Hey man, what's up?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
How you been.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Chilling? Chilling? Having a better day? Now?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
How is your week?

Speaker 5 (00:38):
Not that I wouldn't having already a good day, but
you know, always better when we get do the show.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh yeah, I feel you. I'm the same way.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Uh weekdin half a half Wednesday was a tough day.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Anything happened?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Are you not? The results of the election.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I know, I'm joking.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I really was mad at myself.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
I said, you know what, I don't know why I
didn't plan ahead and take the day off.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I knew it was either going to be a celebration
or heartbreak.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
And I feel like the last time I was like,
oh yeah, I should take the day off after a
major election, and I gotta remember to do that four
years now, no matter who running who it is, just
the day after, just go ahead and.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Plan and have the day off.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, absolutely feel you on that.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I mean that, I'm glad.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
I have the job I have now, you know, it's
very cushy to be able to steal in my own
emotions without anybody interrupting and fucking with me. I don't
know what it would feel like to walk into work
and see those smiling faces of people that I know
against my rights, and I just got to act like

(01:51):
it's cool by the water water fountain, you know, I've
seen people. Was a little more bold with it.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
The day after that.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
You know, we went to the Hornets game. I had
a Trump sweater on at the game. It's like, okay,
we just out here, a uh, we just we ain't
seen none of those before today, those y'all was y'all
was keeping them in the closet.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
I still like the more of the in my face
with your feelings, you know, with biggotry in racism. I'm
still not for the closeted lifestyle that some people choose.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I mean, if you're going to be.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
A person that supports Donald Trump, I would rather know
it than not. I'd rather if you're in my life
and around me, I'd rather know it. But in general,
I do not want to know, and I also don't
give it up, so like if it's a person who
goes in that booth and votes for Trump and they

(02:49):
are an actor, I don't need to know. I actually
would like you to say less, don't don't tell me anything,
and don't tell anyone anything.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Do it in secret, like.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Like as long as you don't have no power or
control the proximity to my life, I don't give a fuck.
It's only when it's like some ship where I'm like,
now see, your racism might affect me. So like if
I'm at the car, if I'm at the mechanic and
you come out there with the Trump shirt.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
On, I might have to go to a different place.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I don't know if I want to be in that place,
even though I think it's a lot of Trump mechanics.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
It is, but I want to know, like even like
like low Ki, I was thinking about it, like, you
know what, I appreciate the neighbors that got their Trump
flag out in the yard all election or even they
I don't have any Confederate flags outside thing but half.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
A dozen, yep, I would prefer it to be out,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
I mean that's different if it's a neighborhood that's different
than me.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
That's because I like to know which of my neighbors
is not fucking with team Black people.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
But like I said, just.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
In general, I don't need to I'm not walking down
the street need to know everybody's political affiliations just fucking much.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I don't give a fuck, and I don't care that
you know mine or not, like like, uh, I'm just
a good person.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
And at the end of the day, good people ain't
fucking with him. So there you go. But it's it's already.
I think it's already too much.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
But I felt bad for the people that had to
go into a job and look by that water cool
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
The fuck and them smiling faces.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
You know, I just went to like the grocery store
that day, and I was at the Harris teeter in
the middle of the day, which is when old white
people shopping, and I was like, you know, people smiling
at me, And I'm like, are they smiling because they sad?
Are they smiling like they like I'm sorry, yeah, y'all
going with y'all people going through this? Are they smiling
because they happy? Like a bitch got one? Like I

(04:49):
don't know, are they not even thinking about that. They're
just smiling because they're nice people. They didn't even vote.
I have no idea, but I don't. I definitely don't
want to live with that knowledge in my head all
the time.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I know.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
I just left a group of young, first time voters
who was like, I'm angry right, Like I'm like, oh,
I remember my first election too, you know what I mean?
Like this was out that they had no idea, a
thought that the candidate that they wanted to win was

(05:22):
going to lose, right, and like they just could not
conceive it, and they like in their head, they was
just like, it ain't no way that this person would lose.
And then they messed around and looked at the numbers
for the state and it was like, so that mean
people I know voted for him, who look me in

(05:46):
my face and be like, you know, maybe don't talk
about it or heard me talk about how I don't
care for this person because of how they used to
faked my life directly. And I was just like, oh, yeah, y'all, y'all,
y'all don't know this is y'all been sitting around at
dinner table, never having any discussions, not talking about it,

(06:06):
or if you did you probably see out of eye
on some of these things, and now you're away from
home and you probably don't remember the politics or your
parents or your uncle or whoever, and now you like you,
they really are sad or angry and like next thanks
still we might not it might not be the same
this year.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
M M, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
I don't think this Thanksgiving is gonna be really interesting
because I think people are gonna travel. But I don't
think as many people are gonna travel as prior. You know,
I think some of the traveling numbers are gonna go down,
not by a lot, but down with significant enough of
people gonna be able to tell oh, not as many
people are traveling. I don't think we have no record

(06:49):
break of numbers and no shit like that.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
No more, I think we will. I don't think any
of that stuff will be affected because the only difference
is they won. You knew that motherfucker fuck with Trump.
You knew that these these that's that's not new, Like
you were deluding yourself if you think, man, my family
is all Democrats and then suddenly Trump came along.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Trump's been a Trump's been.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
A thing now since twenty sixteen, as far as presidential elections,
there's no there's no secret when it comes to like
the people in proximity to you. I think what you
find out now is that there's been people who have
shifted to Trump even after Biden, and you're also finding out.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
And I think this is the most damning part.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
And we'll see what the final tally of all the
votes is at the end, because I think they're still
counting some.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
But if turnout is.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Down for a Kamala, I think that percentage of people
are people that probably do not want to vote for
a black woman. And I think if and it's that
simple to me, I'll hear every other reason that you have.

(08:05):
But I've thought about them all, I've seen people present
them all. They're not consistent. There's only one consistent reason,
and that's because she's a black woman. And then the
other thing that you will see is some people just
went straight to Trump like like. So it's not even
just a matter of them saying I'm not gonna vote.

(08:28):
There's some people that went I'm gonna vote for Trump,
and I wouldn't have last time.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I think I was reading something.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
To Day that said every state shifted a percentage to
the right like four or five.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Except Colorado. So you know that's that's a damning thing.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
That's this is what Americans wanted, This is what voters wanted.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
You can't hide this from me.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I'm very sober in that I'm not.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Listening to any other reason or recourse.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
I don't want to hear about what their Democrats did
and all this shit. It's bullshit, like because you're assuming
a level of decency in these people that they have
not displayed, and it with their choices, and you're trying
to make me think the immoral thing they did of

(09:20):
supporting this man or letting this man come to power
was somehow morally uh high minded, And I refuse to
believe that. I really do think they just wanted it.
They wanted it more than we did, and those who
sat by didn't want it from a black woman, like
like the ones who were like, I'm just not voting

(09:41):
this time. Fuck it, I voted for Joe, but not
not this time. I think they just could not take
it from a black woman. I think we learned this
with Obama and gave his motherfuckers free health care, and
they hated him ever since.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Because he said.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Like Mike Cools did you I love the campaign?

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Did you even see did.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
You even hold on wait before you sat finished? Did
you even see Killing Mike this campaign season? Because I didn't.
I didn't even see him, like not either side. Like
I didn't see him campaigning for Republicans. I see him
talking shit about Kamla. I see him campaigning for Kamala.
I see him talking shit about Trump. I did not
see this man. So I don't have a thing about

(10:24):
Killer Mike. Because Killer Mike sat this one out. I
don't know why he set it out, but his ass
set it out.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
I found it interesting that he always liked eating his
wraps and everything else, but then a big race like
this he chose to set it.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Out, which is interesting because normally comes in on the
other side, Like normally he's the guy that's like, oh,
a black woman running for something. Let me tell y'all
why this white man is better for guns or whatever. Now,
she did say she's a gun on her and if
you run up on her, you're gonna get the smoke.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So maybe he just said that's good enough for me.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Between her and Trump, they both about the same to me,
So I'm not gonna say nothing on this because I
have basically I'm a single issue voter in the issue
is guns. But yeah, I mean, I don't know, man,
I'm I've been stewing over it. I've been thinking over it.
I'm gone from like being sad and depressed over it

(11:21):
and angry over it to just I'm so sober minded
at this point and I'm resolute. Like Country showed me
his face, bro, like mask off. This just what the
fuck we got. This is what the fuck we own, bro,
This is really this is this is an away game
that we're playing, you know what I'm saying, Like we
are playing in the enemy arena every fucking game and

(11:43):
they outnumber us. Now, it used to be a time
where you could be like, hey, it's fucked up here,
and we know there's and I said this many times
during this election season, where I said, hey, no matter
what happens, America's cooked. That this is even close, Like
the fact that that that she's competent and he's deviant
and there's still a fifty to fifty situation happened in

(12:06):
every poll, every analysis. That we're cooked, then, right, because
there's nothing that means there's literally no person, there's no
thing he could do that would make it be make
people in mask be like, I can't vote for this
man in good conscience. So once you know that, you
have to accept the possibility he could absolutely win, which

(12:28):
is something I accepted a long time ago, and it's
something I consistently said, like, I think she should win.
I'm just looking at the quality of her campaign. I
don't see any reason she should lose because of some
shit she did. You see what I'm saying, Like when
I got to come on the air and talk about
the campaign, it's difference between me being like, oh, yeah, man,
they said that thing last night that was fucked up,

(12:50):
But why they make this commercial or why you know
what I'm saying, like, oh, she should have talked to
this person, but she didn't. That Like, those are the
kind of things where you like, damn, maybe we're giving
it away. They ran an aggressive, futuristic savvy campaign. They
really pivoted when they were supposed to pivot. They had
really good talking points. She was very polished.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
So once you go to that, now you got to.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Come back and be like, so, the only reason I
can see this person losing at this point is just
y'all don't like getting a good economy from this person.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Y'all don't want a house credit from this type of person.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Y'all don't want childcare from this kind of person, y'all
don't want lower inflation from this kind of person.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
You would rather not have.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Those things than for her to be in charge of
you and be the boss at the job.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
And that makes it. That's the only thing make sas
to me.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
I literally it was Tuesday night, like, oh, I can't
wait to see this as what bencoma about the you know,
give out excuse me parent Vice President Harris. I couldn't
wait to see it. I was just like looking forward
to it, like I'm ready to see all the pun is.
I'm ready to see the cry foul like she cheated, y'alla,

(14:06):
Like I couldn't wait too. And as the night went on,
I was just like, you know, do something else.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Let me.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I'm gonna come back to it. I'm gonna step away
and come back.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I didn't watch it.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Really, It's very hard for me to watch those things,
even when they win. I can't watch it because it's
a TV show. Yes, and what people don't ever seem
to learn because it happens every four years, so I
think they forget. But the way that that TV show
works is that the Democrats are always down until like

(14:41):
midnight every single time, just because of the numbers, the
way the states come in, like most of the Eastern
states and southern states are red, and so you're going
to be down. Like certain states you just know ahead
of time. Texas you know ahead of time, Florida, Georgia
at this point, well not George Georgia swinging.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
I almost did a Georgia this year to show my
own state, North Carolina, and I was like, mmmm right.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
So like certain states you know, South Carolina, you know
what I'm saying, like, and then the ones that you
don't know are normally too close to count until ten, eleven,
twelve at night. So like if you don't know North
Carolina and Georgia, you're not gonna know him until and
shit at last the last year days like Georgia.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
People.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I remember people texting me on like Friday and Saturday,
like when when a they're gonna call Georgia.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
When they're gonna call Georgia.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
So we know that at best case scenario, it'll be
it'll be a close race that we won't know for.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Until the middle of the night, and I can't. I
can't do it.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
I can't watch five six, seven hours of just them
telling me, like, you know, Scott Kornaki going on TV
and tell me, like who house people voting at? And well,
there's three people in this house that haven't voted yet,
but they well on the way to the polls. And
if you had those three votes, and then you zoom
out to the neighborhood and you go to the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Now there's a couse down.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
The block that's been empty for a while, but people
are renting there, and those renters actually can vote in
this district as long as they found mail in ballots.
Now if they about in mail in ballants, we won't
find out for another five hours. But and I'm like,
I can't do the level of stress that that shit
induces in me. So I just go play video games,
watch TV, movies, whatever.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
But you know, through Twitter and through.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Uh, you know, you just you start seeing shit in
social media, and I could see the tone was very
like dubious of like I don't know, I don't know.
I was like, is this the normal dubious of I
don't know, I don't know, but then they gonna once
the numbers come in, you're gonna win. Or is this
the like you know, Hillary Clinton dubious where you like,
it's just no way that you can win if you're

(16:56):
losing all these states.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
And it's turned out to be the second one.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Really, And we've had a lot of post election analysis,
and I'd say the biggest takeaway I've had from it
is that most people are trying to find their pet
issues with the Democrats and act like that's why they lost.
So it's whatever you was mad about going into it.
Oh it's because of Gaza?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (17:18):
Though?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Because I've been looking at these.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Numbers and there's I think there were at least five
states were pro Israel, not just like pro Israel candidates
one who are Democrats and Kamala lost.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
So is it Gaza?

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Because shouldn't they have lost too because they pro Israel.
She's not pro Israel, but they are and they won
and she lost in that state.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, it's just a rejection down.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
And say Trump and let's see what Democrats do all want.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yep, it's a rejection of Democrats. Oh is it? Though?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I live in North Carolina? Democrats won every seat except
Tricia Cotham, which was very close.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
And surprised about the way she flipped.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well she she so she flipped.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
And then they also jerrymander her district so that it's
more Republican, which is part of the reason that she flipped. Yeah,
so she she knew she was. She was a fire
wild off anyway. So you got Tricia Cotham, who barely won,
by the way, even with the even with them jerrymandering,
she could have lost. So you got Tricia Cotham, you
got the judges, every other Republican loss in our state,

(18:35):
and then.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Mark Robinson is a Republican.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yet every other Republican loss and except Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
What am I supposed to take away from that?

Speaker 4 (18:48):
If they don't like the economy, it's just get the
fuck out Democrats. It's not just get the fuck out Democrats,
it's I can't.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Vote for this black woman. And people you know, like
not saying no names.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
And there are people that was like hitting me up
to try to give me some post mortem analysis. I'm like, fam,
it's very simple, and I'm not giving them any excuses.
You can, like, you can sit up there and say
it's the economy. But just understand that, I believe that
type of logic is the same logic as the poor
Southern whites.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
After a reconstruction.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
They are laboring under the Negro and reconstruction. These poor
Southern whites, what did they ever do to deserve this?
It must have been the economic hardships of no longer
having slavery. How can we empower these whites? They're struggling
so much. Seeing the blacks govern accordingly and everyone benefit
from having a public school system and things of this nature,

(19:50):
we must empower these whites again, what is how do
we reach these whites? And you know Bernie Sanders talking
about they lost the working class, they did lose the
black working class.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
So are we not the working class? No more? Is
our race all?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
I mean, the black vote just a monolift obviously according
to these white folks. But working class Black people did
not abandon the Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
So what do what do you mean when you said
the working class?

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Right, there's a type of person in this country that
can't pull the lever on Kamlin Harrison. And you know,
I think that type of person because what happens is, friend,
my friend, one of my friends is like, well, you know,
some of these people voted for Obama, then they voted
for for Biden. I said, that's like saying because you

(20:38):
weren't racist every day, you're not racist, and what you
just did that was racist.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I'm supposed to just act like that's cool. Like some
of them.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Voted for Obama once, no one ever talks about those motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
He didn't landslide that second time like that first time.
He was like the oh my god, I can't believe this,
And people were pulling that lever to alleviate their guilt,
to be like, look at me, I'm a good white guy,
I'm a good white woman.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I voted for this nigga. And then that motherfucking twenty
twelve came round.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
They was mad, they didn't want him back, and he
won despite everyone saying he was gonna lose Bernie Sanders
on the primary, like Democrats ran away from him in
twenty twelve, many of them lost because they didn't want
to accept this is the most popular candidate in our
the most popular politician in our entire group of politicians.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Even with his approval rating dropping.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
It's still higher than Congress and the Senate and they said, nah, no,
I'm running it. I'm saying I don't like Obama no more.
I think that's how I'm a win. And then they
went and lost, and so I'm saying, like even then
they were off Obama after one turn.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
We never talked about those guys.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
We always talk about the Well, they voted for Obama twice,
that's a joke in get out, But a lot of
them didn't vote for him twice.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
And then they voted right.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Then some of them voted for Trump and definitely did
not vote for Hillary. Then they voted for Biden. And
that's because Bottoms a white dude, which is the whole
reason that I said he was gonna win that year,
I said, And everyone and all these same fucking experts
that keep you know, droning on, don't talk about how

(22:12):
they said Biden's campaign was terrible. He was a terrible candidate,
he wasn't liberal enough, he was gonna lose, people gonna
sit out.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
And what did he do?

Speaker 4 (22:20):
He won because white people in Pennsylvania and shit don't
have a problem voting.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
For that white man.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
They see him as Uncle Joe, even when they don't
like his policies, even when they're mad at him, even
when they don't like these buddy buddy with the black guy.
At the end of the day, they can hold their
nose and vote for another old white man, but they
won't do that shit for no young black lady.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Yeah, it's crazy to you, Like, I don't know how
he got the homage vote.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
I don't know how this motherfucker got the hispanic male.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Vote, like he about to do port All, y'all did
y'all did y'all see Florida complaining the whole presidency and
now y'all y'all forgot just that face.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Right, mm hmmmmm.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah, I sad news for that day, but outside of that, it's.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Been a really good week for me.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
I don't you know what I'm saying, Like, it's I
see people with the jokes I'm leaving the country, and
I was like, they don't take immigrants with these other
countries like you like you think.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah, I mean everyone's hurt and just saying shit. I'm
just allowing people to say shit. I'm not trying to
fight people. I got my feelings and thoughts too, but
I already said, like, my shit's so simple at this
point that I don't think motherfuckers want to talk to
me because I cannot be moved off of this. Like
I thought about everything. If she was wasn't a black woman,

(23:51):
I think she wins. And if she's not black and
a woman, and if she's not, if she was a
white man, she definitely would have won.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Like it's just yah.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
And if not now, when?

Speaker 5 (24:02):
If not now, when when did you pick a black
woman that you vote for?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
If not now, when do you pick a black person?
When do you pick a white woman? At this point? Right?

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Because at this point, what I've learned over the last
few years is you need a white man. That's what
I've learned. I don't know if it'll work, but it
just seems like y'all America, don't y'all the ones that
got a limit to your imagination. I thought she ran.
She was a great candidate, ran a great campaign, and
y'all are gonna try to And I guess I'm just

(24:32):
so frustrated and angry is that I see I see
it at work.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'm seeing it in real time.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
This this this thing of like, well, it's not these
voters that wanted this, it's that they were forced to
pick this guy. Somehow the choices were so bad. What
else were they supposed to do? And I'm like, no,
they wanted it. I've never seen something so obvious in
my life. They had to have wanted it. They weren't
even going to his rallies anymore. That means they would

(25:01):
just ad home, like it's not about you, This ain't
a code of you anymore.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I just want to make.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
A statement that it's about what you're who you're against.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
That's what I'm here for.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
I am more motivated not by what a politician promises
they will do for me, like Kamala Harrison's promising that
all the stuff that all these smart egghead, fucking brainiacs
say that that's what a win the election.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
It's that's not true.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
What won the election was a man saying what he
would not do for the people that you don't like.
That's what one him saying. I'm getting these fucking immigrants
to fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
He ain't say no.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
He had no tax policy, He ain't no motherfucking he
had no plan to bring a job back.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
He has no health care planning as concepts of a plan.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
But what he did never wavered on is like police
can beat up black people, and I'm gonna make sure
that it's immunity for it. Mexicansn't rape, they rapist, they
getting out of here. We're denaturalizing citizens who've been naturalized,
like these are the These were the things he did.
He was steady on and that we're going to uh

(26:10):
punish trans people. You know, I'm even if it's lies women,
we're not gonna allow abortion essentially, like I'm gonna make
up lives and say women are getting abortions, babies are
born and being killed. This is the stuff that he
was saying, and he was consistent in these lies every
single time, and no one cared that there wasn't factual

(26:32):
on that side of the owl. So I am left
with nothing else but to believe that this is what
they want. And the other more damning part of that
is that people saw that and did not say, I
don't want this.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I will do whatever it takes to stop this.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
That is where you see the soul of America is
that those people sat back and said, if he comes
to power, I'm okay with that. That that you cannot
in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
It's just like all the good cops standing around watching. Yeah,
but when when the good cops don't step up, you.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Can't you can't come back from that. You can't unsee
what what I saw.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
And with him having the Supreme Court and all this
other stuff, I'm like, bro, he started with Roe v.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Wade. But what's next?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, gone, Yeah, I don't, I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Like, I'm at a moment right now where I'm just
taking time to like assess my thoughts because I really
do not know what the fuck people. I don't think
I'm prepared for the amount of rage I'm gonna have
as these niggas start complaining next year as he rolled
ship through, because I'm so angry at this moment that

(27:50):
i just don't want to say some shit I don't
mean that I will regret, so I'm just holding my tongue.
But I already know the amount of hypocrisy when he
starts passing things and those the results of those things
are sucking up people and and and and it's just.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Evil, horrible ship.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
And people are going, well, I didn't want this, Well
I don't agree with that. And I'm gonna be like
which he said it, he said he was gonna do it,
and and and you want me.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
To have sympathy and everything for you. Dog, that's crazy, you.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
Know, m h, Yeah, you're gonna have empathy, sympathy and understanding.
I've been sitting and thinking, Like I kind of been
talking torogic about it, but I've really been sitting and
thinking and and and and sitting in my my my
thoughts and and and letting them roll around.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
And the truth be told.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
I was never under the illusion that he could not
win again. I think a lot of people were under
that illusion like like that, like they were in their
bubbles so bad that they really thought that there was
no way America would do this.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I this is how I feel about it. When he
won the first time. I don't think a lot of
people was as broken as they claim they was. I'm
gonna tell you the truth.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
I don't think a lot of people is as hurt,
know what, it, as broken as they claimed they were.
Like I'm not trying to say they weren't sad, they
wouldn't disappointed anything like that, but a lot of people
did not go through what I went through at that time.
That shit changed me forever. It changed my thought process
about this country. It changed how I felt about America,

(29:39):
my fellow citizen. That shit broke me to my mother
fucking core and I will never be the same, but
I will never look at this country the same. A
lot of people didn't go through that. I moon for
this country when he first got elected. I don't think
people went through that. I think they're going through it
this time because the first time, the first time didn't
hit him quite as bad, and they was like, the

(30:00):
gonna do it again. But that first time broke me
because America showed me they ass and they showed me
who they were, and I believed them.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I believed them.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
A lot of people didn't believe them, and they still
had hope, and they still have faith that this country would,
particularly on democratic side, would look at his higher side
and would consistently always make the right choice. And so
that's why somebody like me was very mad and very

(30:31):
angry and very upset and will forever be upset at
the way they did Joe Briden, even my fellow Democrats,
because when I mother fucking woke up, Roger woke me
up and told me that Biden had stepped down, I
was fucking fuman. It took everything in me to calm
myself down before I went on that goddamn Mike on
that show. I was furious because I was like, the
only way we are going to win is with Joe Biden.

(30:55):
I said it before and I still feel like that now,
and there's nothing anybody can say nor do to change
my mother fucking mind. Because you got to know how
white people think. White people will deal with another white
person even though they don't agree with them, They don't
want anything else. Joe Biden showed us that when he
beat them the first time. And so these motherfuckers that

(31:19):
was out here talking about, well he flubbed. Okay, bitch,
so what he flubbed both of these niggas. Oh, we
all knew this. We all knew that was almost eighty
years old. This is nothing new nor shocking, no surprising,
but we need an old white man off anything else.
Trump was gonna win, period. I want a commodo to win.

(31:39):
I had hopes that she did, but I was not stupid,
and I was not under the illusion that the outcome
would not be what it is like. I just wasn't because,
like I said, when I was broken, I was fucking broke, y'all.
And so for me, like a lot of the feelings
and a lot of the things that are.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Running through my mind and through my head. I'm kind
of like grogic.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
I kick things to myself and I really don't say
anything open because the thing is, i'ma heard a lot
of people's feelings, and so because of that, I just
keep I just keep a lot of my opinions to
myself because my rage is real, and it's strong and
and it's furious, you know, so for me, Like for me,

(32:23):
I ain't sharing no tears, bitch, why I cried in
twenty sixteen, I'm not crying no more, bitch. You already
whooped my ass one time, so well, okay, now I
got to prepare for another abusive, aast relationship with you. Okay,
I guess hope you don't kill at this time? Like that,
Like that's how I feel about Trump.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, I like this.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I didn't cry the first time, but I cried a
little bit this time. And the reason being not that
I thought this was impossible. I've been saying all the
time that it's totally possible he can win. I just
knew he shouldn't. But shouldn't doesn't really mean much in America, but.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
It is heartbreaking to.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Me, yes, in that to me, this means like it
is everything.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
That people have been saying thrown back in their face.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
And I think what bothers me is the level of
delusion that a smart person can have and talk themselves
out of what we just saw. And I think that's
the heartbreaking part, because you can't face a thing until
you name the thing you can't. There's nothing there's nothing
more powerful than a truth you won't tell yourself. You know,

(33:43):
that's nothing more powerful than that because I can't give
you any facts, I can't show you any evidence. There's
nothing I can say to you that will shake that.
And the truth that America won't tell itself is that
there's white people especially that just want this. Yes, and
this was laid bare like this is the time, like

(34:05):
the first time you could make an argument. They didn't
know you could really make an argument like well, I
mean he just says crazy stuff. He doesn't really he's
a he's a he's an entertainer. I just think he's funny.
I didn't agree with those arguments, and I knew and
black people knew not to vote for him.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
But you could have made an argument.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
I would have heard you out if you would have said, man,
I fucked up bad. I didn't know he was gonna
be as bad as he was. I will never support
this man again. I'm like, better late than never. I
don't like it, you're fool, but better late than ever.
There were prominent people saying that too, by the way,
not just not just people walking down the street. Then

(34:47):
twenty twenty happened and he lost. But I made know
at the time. I said, Joe Biden beat him with
the most votes ever. This motherfucker has second. His votes
went up. That means people went through four years of
Trump and went I take some more of this over
Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
But it didn't work. It didn't work this time.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
You have the Joe Biden stepping down, which I understood.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I didn't like it necessarily.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
But I'm not gonna be so delusional that I saw
that debate.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Karen never watched it.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
I'm not gonna be so delusional that I watched that
debate and went, yeah, man, nobody saw.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
That it'll be fine. No.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
People were panicking and that was real, and they were
gonna abandon ship. Okay, this is why you have a party.
This is why you have a democratic party. What are
we gonna do to write this ship? And I said,
of the choices, seems like what at that time night,
less than one hundred days out, seemed like y'all need
a smooth transition to a person who's up next, which

(35:52):
is what a VP is, and everyone gets behind.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Her in rallies.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
And now we're watching this Monday morning quarterback bullshit. And
that's the part that makes me furious. It's not the
I don't mind any of the stuff. I don't mind
Joe Biden stepping down because I saw it. I saw
what happen like that's you know, it's like if it's
like if it's like if Barack Obama got on stage
and pissed his pants during one of the bates. And

(36:18):
then I was like, I don't know what y'all talking about, Like, no,
I do know what y'all talking about.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I'm not fucking crazy.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
I know you mean, well, but the point is we're
making a fucking agreement.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Now.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
The agreement is we're r Ryan behind the next person,
because that's what that's what y'all said you wanted, right.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
So you're getting what you wanted.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Don't let me down because I'm the one that don't
believe in y'all. I'm the one that thinks Joe Biden
can get up there and piss his pants and y'allould
go vote for him because he's a white dude.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Right, So I'm putting my trust in America. Now. That's
not what I did in twenty twenty. It's not what
I did in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
I put my trus and the white people within this
coalition in a way I have never done before and said, okay,
I watching with folded arms the whole ninety days, and
I said, are y'all gonna do this? And and look
they were convincing me.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
They were. They were showing up to these rallies.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
They were They.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Couldn't that they didn't have enough capacity to fill the place,
like it was too many people. They turned away people
from football stadiums. That is different. The DNC went. I've
never seen a DNC like that. It was a fucking
party as a celebration. Everyone was so happy and thankful
and lined up. You will not take that away from me.
I'm not gaslight, I'm not crazy. I'm not ridiculous. I

(37:41):
saw that this was a popular candidate. She she was
articulating the accomplishments that that that they had done as
a bid in White House, she was promising even more
to do the next time they had gotten inflation to
the numbers it.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Was when he took office.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Wages have gone up under him.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Like I live in a swing state.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
A lot of these motherfuckers with these opinions living places
where they didn't see the ads we.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Saw right, they wouldn't bombarded by him.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
I saw her spend two hundred million dollars on ads
that were doing what everyone on Twitter is acting like she.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Should have done all them ads about the economy. That's
what she didn't. She never ran on being a black woman.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Everything she ran on was like, this is what we're
gonna do for the economy, This is what we're gonna
do for housing, this is what we're gonna do for immigrants.
I will be a president for all of y'all. This
is not about picking da da da dad. That's what
she ran on. I just want people to know because
there's a lot of Monday morning quarterback and for people
that did.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Not, they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
You can be smart, you can be learning, you can
be studied and still not know what the fuck you're
talking about. And the reason you don't know is the
same reason that Reconstruction lasted eight years. It's because you
allowing an excuse for the whiteness that elected Donald Trump.
You keep making excuses like, well, loof, she would have
ran a perfect campaign. He ran a shit campaign. What

(39:14):
are we talking about? I saw his ads, I saw
what they voted for. I can't unsee it. They voted
for transphobia, they voted for xenophobia, they voted for hatred.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
That's what they voted for. They did not vote.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
So you telling me it's about the economy, and I'm
showing you black people who obviously worry about the economy
with all of us and we turning up eighty five
percent of us voting for Kamala, So what, we don't
care about the economy. No, it's a certain type of
person that can't get to They don't want a good
economy if it's got black hands that touched it. And

(39:57):
that's all the fuck it is. Dog you hear people
if they want to be like I thought Biden was
gonna lose too. I'm not gonna argue that shit, because
really it's about belief voting is mostly about belief, and
you're right in that a lot of people had lost.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Belief in his ability to do it, even well meaning people.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Okay, fine, I'm not what a my fucking I'm not
gonna sit up here and deny that that's what happened,
Whether I think agree with the howard happened or not.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Y'all had lost faith in the man period.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Motherfucker called from y'all like, oh God, he losing, So okay,
I don't want to run towards the finish line, which
y'all acting like that every time the man stumbles.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Over a word.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I blame the media for that.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Yeah, however, media, social media, Elon Musk, all the people
that run it. Whatever, my point being, we knew that
fix was in and we didn't stop it. We know
the Washington Post is in on the fix. You know
Jeff Bezos congratulating Trump twice, never congratulated Biden when he
won twenty twenty, Like, we know the fix is in.

(41:00):
We know seeing an MSNBC bring on right wing contributors
because they wanted to move to the right. The people
that own it are like, we need to run this
thing more of a centrist situation. We know that, but nah,
y'all wasn't y'all didn't have a backbone. Y'all didn't have
a fucking spind to be like, man, fuck that ship.
We are enjoying a good economy. We're enjoying this guy
getting us out of Afghanistan. We're enjoying you know, the

(41:23):
amount of government subsidies and and and and funding that
we're getting. We're we're enjoying record funding for HBCUs.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
We're enjoying that. But you know what I say, we
were we enjoying that?

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Or were some people somewhere secretly seething like why he
giving these niggas colleges this money?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Why are you giving these farmers this money? Y'all know.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Them?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, let's get rid of the d all of these companies.
Y'all know. I know that this economy is working for
all of us.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
I know I'll make more money than I've been making
over the before he came into office.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
But why the fuck black people making more money? I
don't like that? How Come? How come immigrants is getting
in the country. I don't like that?

Speaker 4 (42:12):
They they they were more motivated, more motivated by what
a candidate said. He wouldn't do for other people, not
what Joe Biden and Kamala Harrison were doing and promising
to do more for them, And that to me is
unforgivable and impossible to unseen. And every other reason is

(42:34):
one bullshit. But like, I'm sorry, people don't care about
Gaza that much.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Now.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
The people that voted for Trump don't care about Gaza.
You can never convince me that that's what happened. Oh,
let me go vote for Trump because you know, Palestinians
are so close to my heart. No, they voted for
Trump for the other reasons. They don't give a fuck
about that, you know, even the people. I'm not even
trying to be colder. I'm not trying to be cold
about it. That's why I said I'm angry, but I'm

(43:03):
not trying to be glib because I would regret some
of the thoughts that have come in my head about
certain causes. I'm not gonna say that because I think
it's what's happening. There is a fucking tragedy and it
is horrible and there's real lives down. But y'all are
the reason that turned the glass. Like if it turns
the glass, you're the reason, But none of you will
ever step up and say it because you're you got

(43:25):
your pet peeve with a demo with the Democrats, and
you'll act like.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
They made you not be a good person. You chose that.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
You know, when when the next black person gets killed
by the cops, I don't want to hear about no
fucking marches, nigga, Like, what are you talking about? Y'all
was straight with this. You know, the the pussy has
to leave him in the closet. We don't need that now, y'all.
Y'all's demographic was okay with that.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
That's just what it was.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Dog.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
You you chose or you sat by and let this happen.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
That's just it.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
All we got is us on this side now, the
people that's good, people that try to take care of
each other, and whatever ways we can try to survive
this next however fucking long, because I don't know that
this guy's willingly leaving office. Nope, I don't know that
a Republican Senate is going to do anything to.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Check his power.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
I don't think a Republican school this is going to
do anything to check his power when he replaces the
older outgoing members with young idealogue Republicans, I don't want
to hear shit because the country's fucking cooked.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Man or a Supreme Court that'll say nope, you gotta go.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Y'all got it.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
They can reverse all the laws in constitutions constitutionally, it
doesn't apply here.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, y'all got it.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
I don't know what y'all want from me, dog Like,
I did what I was supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
As Karen said, it's a group of assignment.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
It's a group of assignment, and a group wanted a
fucking aff.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, I did what I was supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Dog Like, I all I can do now this point
is take care of me in mind, because that's all
y'all cut worried about all y'all, Like all them people
over there worry about them and themselves only, and they
don't care that they let a fucking wolf in the
handhouse because the wolf is promising to eat all the
fucking you know, all the chickens that they hate, you

(45:18):
know what I mean, the chickens.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
That make the eggs they like. Fuck it. I don't like.
I don't like. I don't like right exactly. So like, yeah,
like I said, man, I can't unsee that.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Man, it's it's I might put this on the regular
feed just so because I know people want to hear
what the fuck we had to say about this ship.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
But yeah, I can't undersee it. Fam I I really.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
I found so not seeing the chat, but the chat
more active too.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
No, they chatting. Are you not clicking on the chat?
It's just not moving it off of you?

Speaker 3 (45:51):
No, I see it. Don't say nothing.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Oh no, it's it's moving maybe if you want to refresh,
if you need to see the chat.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
But they end there talking.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
But yeah, man, I, like I said to me, it's
just kind of obvious.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
And yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Heartbreaking in that I think this is different than his
first term.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
And so uh, this time he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
They've actually will install they like they have this whole plan.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
It's PROBABLYECT twenty twenty five things.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
They are going to install ideologues to uh right wing
conservative causes, and they're gonna make them take pledges of
loyalty and shit ohes of loyalty. They're going to take
out all of the typically unpartisan whatever offices. They're gonna
take those non partisan jobs and make them partisan they're

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gonna get people that won't check him, and then everybody's
gonna start acting like they didn't know. We were gonna
fuck around and find out. You know, he's gonna run
those tears. Every price of goods is gonna increase tremendously,
a lot of people gonna lose their job, people gonna
people gonna act like the day he takes off is
when the eggs is still the same cost they are today,

(47:10):
They're gonna act like he did something. And then when
the eggs is up, they're gonna be like, this must
be democrats. I don't know what's happening, but yeah, this
is this is the country where uh trying not to
say something regrets. So our only hope is something happened
to him. That's it, Like like, and I don't mean
that necessarily, like that will stop anything. I think they

(47:32):
have put the ship in the place to where it
can keep going out. But I'm just saying, even if
something happened to him, I think that train step keeps
going because it ain't about him. It's about what they
promised to do to these other people. And everybody talking

(47:53):
like we not cooked it is crazy to me, Like, nah,
we cook. We gotta take care of our own the
point I don't even know what to say to y'all, know.
So anyway, that's my thoughts on the election, And uh yeah,
it's been very frustrated. I you know, like I said,

(48:13):
I hadn't even felt like this since. I think last
time I felt like this is when Chadwick Boseman died. Well,
I just like on the couch, like shit, you know
what I mean, Like whoa, I was just eating my
coin flakes?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
What the fuck?

Speaker 6 (48:32):
Like?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I could not sleep that well that night.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
I tried to. I slept a little bit, but I
just kept coming back to it.

Speaker 6 (48:39):
Man.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
I was really sick to my stomach, and my mind
just kept racing about all the stuff that we know
is gonna come to pass and how I live in
a country that's okay.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
With it, Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
And I won't be made to feel of shame for
having hope. I won't be made to feel of shame
for believing because she ran a good campaign, she should
have won. And now I just know something about my
country that can't be undone. And I'm not giving up
personally on myself. I'm not giving up personally on the

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things I believe in obviously, because those.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Are the mintrinsic values that make.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Me who I am. But I understand the limits of
that in America. You know, it is what it is.
And if you think the lesson that we learn here
is Democrats need to run some type of leftist populist platform,
I hate to inform you this. All they learned was
they need to go further to the right. Yes, that's
all they learn. That's all they're going to learn. We

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need to put a white man out there who will
say I will be president to everybody. If you think
there's another lesson where they about to run AOC and
on the super leftist progressive platform, you're out of your
motherfucking mind.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
You like.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
You don't know how people work, if that's what you think,
because what here's the calculus that.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
No one's done.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
And and I'm sure there's people that disagree with me,
but this is logic that I don't think you can refuse.
If you're a person out there going no Rod, there's
a bunch of people that don't vote, and Kamala Harrison,
Democrats didn't say the messages that would get them to.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Vote and would have got them to win the win.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Okay, what is that message, somebody might say, Gaza, is
that the message for everybody in America?

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Does that not tell hold on, let me finish please?

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Does that not turn off some people as it turns
on others? Is it, like, what is the message that
you're talking about for these people that won't vote, because
the assumption is that everyone who does not vote does
not vote for the same reason. Oh, it's the economy.
I saw her ads, I saw her speeches. She talked
about the economy almost exclusively. She was not a I'm

(50:56):
a black woman candidate. I'm gonna be the transcend She
was not like Obama. Well, Obama's out there like I
am the dream of America. Come together as a person,
vote for me, and you are voting for the American dream.
She's not running like that. She's like, here's the policies,
there's the plans, and they said that's what they want.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
They didn't go out and vote for it. So go ahead. Jose,
I'm sorry. I didn't even cut you off.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
No, I was co signing with what you was saying.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I was, Oh, I'm bad, all right, but yeah, go ahead,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Hey, oh no, yeah, And it's also, you know one
of those.

Speaker 6 (51:31):
Things where, like you said, I still have you know,
the feelings. You know. I was talking to a friend
of mine and I was telling them, I said, it
don't mean that people that are feeling you know, shocked
and all these emotions, those feelings are very valid and.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
It doesn't mean that I'm not having those feelings. Those feelings.
Some of those feelings aren't as.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
Intense as they was in twenty sixteen, but they're still there,
if that makes sense, Like like like like those feelings
are still there, you know, cause you know when I
say I don't cry and things that, it didn't mean
that it didn't hurt me.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
It don't mean that it didn't impact me.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
It just means that, oh I've been punched before, I've
been punching the face.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
The fuck you were you prepared yourself ahead of time.
I did too, But I'm just being honest.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
It still hurt me.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Oh yeah, and it hurt me when I was talking
about I was texting with a friend of mine and
I realized, like I was telling him.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
I said, bro, this broke my heart.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Like this broke my heart because it's not like she
lost some clothes contested like.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Oh, it took six months. It took a month. We
got all the numbers in. Guys are like she lost.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
No, America shifted harder to the right, to the point
where they don't care what kind of man Trump is.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
I agreed.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
If anything, they're voting because of the kind of man
he is.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yes, And I did.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Think America, no, it just says a lot go ahead.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I did. I did think America was gonna overcorrect.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
We got a history that every time we get a
resident in here that does things, it's like increased social
policies like social welfare policies, fixes the the budget in
a way that's like the economy is booming for everybody
without having to increase taxes only on the poor, right,

(53:17):
like distribution is even. They may be resolved for war,
that sort of thing. America overcorrects like every time. But
I really thought it was gonna be after she won
as president. Like I thought it was gonna be after that,
Like I thought it was gonna get these four mm hmm.

(53:38):
I thought we was gonna get these four. Uh, like
let's celebrate, like you know, this is we live in history,
like just like with Obama, like we're about to watch
watch this put this.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
I was excited for that possibility, man, honest to God,
because and like I said, it happened because of her,
like it didn't happen like day one. I was like, okay, now,
okay now, because y'all know, y'all don't fuck with people
that's not white men.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
And yes, we.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Talked about the Hill, We talked.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Every and every fucking right minded left. This kind of
white person that I knew was telling me, no, Rid
is different, it ain't. He just gotta go. I don't
care if it is Kamala. I hope it is Kamla.
And I said, okay, because this is different. And y'all
don't know the fight you're getting in because y'all ain't
never fought like this before.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Y'all don't know. I'm black. I fucking know the country.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
I'm not making this up. It's not in my fucking head.
I know what betrayal feels like. I know what it's
like when white people smile on your face and they
go in the booth and they click something else I know.
And so they don't know, and I don't know if
they are taking a lesson from this, because I'm watching

(54:54):
the excuses come in and none of the excuses are
like these races, bigoted sex. This motherfuckers just don't want
good economy, good government from a black woman, that's it.
They don't want to look up and feel like she's
the boss of the company.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
That's it. They don't want her telling them what to
think and how to feel.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
They don't give a fuck if she's saying, if she's
bending over backwards to them, if she's pulling Liz Cheney
out to make them go, Hey, guys, I'm not gonna
just fucking go crazy out here. I'm a governed for like,
but Joe Biden with govern they're like, man, fuck that shit.
And so that you know, that's a key factor that.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I like.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
I said, it's just I understand why they why good
and white people thought this was impossible, But I never
thought it was impossible. But it doesn't make me less angry,
It doesn't make me less hurt, it doesn't make me
less heartbroken. I'm still furious about it, and I will
be probably for the rest of my life.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yes, and I won't allow any other excuses.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
I won't like all the stuff you said she needed
to do, she either did. And now because you don't
want to feel bad about your fellow white folk in America.
You running back and trying to come up with some
new shit and be like, no, no, Na, it's because
didn't she like it's because of celebrities.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Right, Like, Nah, it's not because of celebrities.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Nah.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
You know why white people didn't give a fuck about
whether it was Cardi B or not.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
That's not it. That's some mother fucking Indiana don't care.
They just say, I don't want this black woman fucking
tell me what to do.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
That's it, dog right.

Speaker 6 (56:25):
And also it is one of the things to where
I think for a lot of black people, and I'm
gonna keep this real, particularly black women, this was a
smack in the face for a lot of them, like
a flat smack in the face.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
And I think for I truly believe this.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
For some people, they're broken and they will never recover,
which means you're gonna have a lot less people, uh,
depending an actually voting on the Democratic part this period,
they're gonna opt out, You're gonna have more people. I
think next time opt not to vote, you're gonna have

(57:06):
a lot more people.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
That actually are like, Okay.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
This country is racist, Like like like like actually having
a real heart.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
And I don't know that America. I don't know that
America that as we know it.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
I don't know that America is prepared for what has happened. Yeah,
because they're not.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
I am a person that is pretty rigid and optimistic
and I'm a realist. But I'm optimistic and I'm a
hard worker and I'm consistent. I am like, what's the
point I feel if I feel like that, Yes, I
can't imagine what just a regular motherfucker that don't follow
this ship, don't cover this for a living, doesn't know

(57:54):
the ins and outs and workers, the Civics and all
this shit. I you're asking people to have hope at
a time when it fills one hopeless and then you're
And then what I mean is this country was not
a democracy. This country was made into a democracy because

(58:15):
of the work of black people to get free. Yeah,
like people talk about, oh, the greatest democracy, greatest democracy.
America wouldn't let black people vote until the Civil Rights Act.
They wouldn't let women vote. This is not a democracy
at the time. Like that's the one thing these Republicans
have right when they're like, we believe in the old school.

(58:35):
They they really do believe in the old school where
just white men got to vote.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
Right.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Yes, But what I'm saying is if Black people stop
doing the work to get ourselves free, right, it stops
the work that got everyone else free.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
And these Latino voters that broke for Trump, nigga, you're
here because of us, right, You only here because of
our work. All this ship that you're getting is because
we fought and died for you to get it.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Right.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
Whatever freedom blueprint you followed is a map we laid.
Whatever tracks you you rot, that's our underground railroad. And
that goes for every other demographic. And I'm not trying
to erase the marginalized people that are in both groups,
like blacky people. But you know what I'm saying, in
mass gay movements exist because Black civil rights existed, because

(59:35):
because we are the blueprint.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
You know how many.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
How many movements copy Black Lives Matter as a movement
trans lives matter, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
And like I said, this is not detegrating those groups.
I'm on the side of those groups.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
But I'm saying, when the black people stop being the
light in the tunnel in the darkness, Yeah, there's no
one to follow. And there's a lot those black people
right now who are like, man, what the fuck am
I doing all this work for?

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Yes, Yes, and particularly black women because of that goddamn
backbone of the Democratic Party. Do you know how much
of a goddamn smack it is in the face the
first time ever you get a black woman there's gonna
run this country, and niggas looks like she gonna run it.
She gonna run it, right, she gonna do her job.
It's our time to shine. You have people coming in,

(01:00:26):
particularly a lot of black people coming out of woodworks.
You know what's gonna happen next time. People aren't gonna
be knocking on them goddamn doors. People ain't gonna be
doing y'all. Motherfucking poland people. People are just they're just
not gonna do it. They're not gonna do it. They're
not gonna come and save you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Yeah, it's unforgivable.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
I don't like And I said this. I said this
when it fucking started. I said it needs to be
Kamla Harris. But y'all do not understand what you're playing
with if you let black women.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Down, right, I said y'all. Just don't y'all think I
got a good friend.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
I got a homie who tried to I love this dude,
but he told me something at the very beginning when
he didn't want Kamla Harris to be He's like, she's
a loser, all this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I said, I disagree.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
I don't think she's a loser because of anything she's
done or said. I think she just needs to run
a good campaign. And I said, you know, if they
stabber in the back and put big gretch in there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Who None of y'all really know her policies either.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
By the way, y'all don't want to admit it, but
y'all just like that she's a white lady.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Don't even try to front and act like it's some
policy thing. You can't name three policies she's staying behind.
You can't name her accomplishments. So it's just who's gonna
be the avatar?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Gavin Newsom. You like that he's a white man.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
You don't really have a lot of policy work for
these people, especially not more than the vice president would have.
So okay, but that's fine. It's a game of representation. Fine, okay,
I said, if y'all stab this woman in her back,
what do you think is gonna happen to a party
that black women are truly the engine of? And he

(01:02:10):
was like, well, I mean it's basically like where the
fuck they gonna go?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Like what else? What choice they got?

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
And I and I and I made a note of
it in my mind that day because I said, Okay,
because y'all the motherfuckers think, ain't no choice? But do
you understand this is one of the reasons that black
people right now are kind of cooking off of this
and this is the ship that I really hope wouldn't
come to pass. But nigga, I've eaten syrup sandwiches, I've

(01:02:40):
drank sugar water.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
I've lived in the projects.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
I've been without, I've been down here before.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yes, y'all niggas are.

Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
New to this, Yes, y'all Like this is y'all gonna
have to be scraping pennies and y'all, y'all are not
gonna know how.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
To handle that shit. I don't want to do.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
They didn't they didn't watch the real good times right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Watch them? I lived them right, And I'm just an
average black person. I'm not saying this is like a
struggle story that like this ain't me on.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
The campaign trail, being like my family was born in
the projects. Those are just facts.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
I know roseland I know Little rock y'all the ones
that don't y'all just didn't like that black people, brown
people were getting ship and now you're willing to go
put us all in the projects. Bitch, we sign up.
I go back to my old one. I just you know,
let me get my old room. Okay, Floyd, the white

(01:03:37):
people good luck finding finding room with board, because y'all
ain't never been through that good luck.

Speaker 5 (01:03:43):
I was I've been seeing post like black women, y'all
rest now take a break, and I was like, see
it ain't resting. They done like and if you ever y,
you push your mom off so bad you just.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Even got words for you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Yeah, you think you're about to get fussed at or
some type of punishment or something, you just be like
it ain't no words.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
What's funny? Justin is I see no post too?

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Everyone no posts don't want to be like it's funny,
y'all think y'all gotta tell them something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
It's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
It's funny y'all think they still listening to y'all. Right,
it's funny you think they waiting for permission from you
to hear that it's okay to not give a fuck.
I'm pretty sure the ones who don't give a fuck
stop giving a fuck. Tuesday around nine to twelve, ten o'clock,
like they was like, oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
It was that Cam Newton, you know, with the toid,
Like okay, all right, so we see what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
It's what we're doing.

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Y ever walked into yeah, walked in the kitchen at
eight thirty, be like, oh, it's still ain't nothing, ain't no,
not even it's not even.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
On exactly, And oh, I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
That's justin. That's like this make my own yeah, justin.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
That's like them going into the room and being like,
hey baby, it's not the clock. You ain't made dinner,
but gonna take the night off, nigga, it's no dinner
happening with whether you say whatever the fuck. Now, here's
the thing though, because I see someone what I'm saying.
We've seen this, we know, yeah, but but peep game though,

(01:05:15):
because I see someone saying this in the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
But I gotta point this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Out, dog, I gotta refresh. I gotta refresh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Go ahead, refresh, go ahead. Yeah, we'll get just in
a second, so he can see the chat too. Let
me make.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Sure because I see him moving with no problem.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Yeah, yeah, it's working for me.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Let me write him back to the main stage. I
may have to invite him back. I know it's a
new computer.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Uh so maybe that'll maybe that'll do something. Uh see,
he should be back you see any chat now?

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
All right, So look, because this is important, this is important,
and I can't speak for black women. I don't know
what y'all experience right now, but black men in the
exit polls wants a motherfucking gain eighty percent eighty five

(01:06:13):
voted Democrat. Okay, Now, you would think with all the
gender wars shit and the black man versus black woman shit,
you think that would be enough to make people go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Oh shit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
We spent a lot of time on some bullshit this year,
Yes we did, and I'm furious about it. I'm furious
because how much time and resources did we waste acting
like black men and black women aren't on the same
page in this election?

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Right, Pete, Like, are.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
You understanding how much fucking time we wasted on that bullshit, right,
that's god damn ridiculous. It was a drag to the campaign.
It was a drag to her resources. Time she could
have been getting messages out about the economy. Time she
could have been getting messages out to these royal white

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motherfuckers that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Need to hear it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Time they could have been reaching out the Latino men
who broke for Trump at like over like sixty percent
of some weird shit like whatever. The number was much
higher than black men. We spent all that time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Shitting on black men for fucking what cause.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Look, if you're gonna say, well, it's about the people
that didn't vote, niggas, a lot of people didn't vote.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
It wasn't black men that small percentage in the electorate.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
If you want to add up all the black men
that didn't vote and say they all go vote.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
It still doesn't win the fucking election.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
Why don't we spend so much time fussing at these
niggas because Trump put them in front of us. It worked, Yes,
it worked, dog, It fucking worked like he put those
people out there to be a distraction. So you go,
Le'Veon Bell, You see these brothers, these Jamal's is out
here doing this, and then here come another nigga and

(01:08:07):
another nigga, and then when we got the exit pos,
what the fuck did I say it would look like?
Exactly what the fuck it looked like like of the
black men that voted, we not fucking with Trump. Of
all the men and the types of men were the
least likely to fuck with Trump. And we wasted a
lot of time over whatever percentage of the elector that

(01:08:28):
is one to two percent. Like everybody would have felt bad,
felt better if it was like, well, you know what,
instead of it being eighty percent, it was ninety percent,
which is exactly the same as black women now. Commas
still lost and and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Everything was the same. But hey, black men, guess where
we're wrong? Nah?

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Man, fuck that shit. We wasted time. I saw an
article trying to lump us in. It was like Trump
wins behind shifts in the Republican loyalty or something, and
they said between Latino men, black men, and some other group.
And I went, wait a minute, let me go read
this article, because that that's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
I get about two paragraphs in the article.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
It says black men voted about the same rate they
did in twenty twenty, so there was no game for
Trump this election cycle. I said, why the article throw
us in there and say we was part of the
shift that made.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Him get in the office. We clearly weren't.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
But they know they're looking for a fucking scapegoat, and
any scapegoat that isn't white men, right, white women, And
like I said, Latino men who were voted for a Trump,
I have to throw them in because y'all fucking did it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
I don't know what was Like, I'm disappointed in the
community right now. Like it not us, it can't be us, right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
So it's just it's just fucking It was insulting to
watch that shit unfold, knowing what the fucking results would be.
No that we were wasting all that goddamn time on
the bullshit. Man, Like, I'm sorry that there's some niggas
acting stupid, but you know what else are There's a
lot of black women that be acting stupid. If we
want to just go to acting stupid on the internet

(01:10:12):
for attention, Ken Owners is a black woman, Say stell
is a black woman? Fucking Jim Brown's daughter was on
stage with Trump the other day. At no point did
I lose my focus to be like, you know, black
women must be breaking for Trump. No, no, those niggas
are outliers and we don't fuck with Trump. There's no
reason even think that. Like, I'm sure there was some

(01:10:32):
black men that tried to turn it into gender wars
and be like, see they like Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
No they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Now the Democratic Party and Charlemagne and all these white
people wasting all they fucking time talking about this bullshit
and what did it get us?

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Wasted time?

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
We only had one hundred days, right, we spent fucking
twenty of them word about black men.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
What the fuck was that?

Speaker 6 (01:10:52):
Right in a very short period of time, and truth
be told. I also feel like Joe Biden stepping down
diid of the disservice because she couldn't run a normal campaign.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
And I had a problem with that too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
That's nothing you could do. What could he do?

Speaker 6 (01:11:04):
And I do understand that, but I would have rather
her had to say to get the ship together.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
But it's like a time machine, what can you do?

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
He had to debate at a time, and it's either
you do something or you don't. So he couldn't be like,
oh two years ago, start running like once again. It's
just frustrating because I think she ran a great campaign.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
I don't think the campaign was the problem.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
I think I think even the way they adjusted to
the black man bullshit was amazing, because I would have
been like, hold on, justin. I would have been like, man,
fuck them niggas. That's how I would have like. If
they would have took me in the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Room and said, Rod, we're hearing Charlemagne.

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
And people say you got an issue with black men,
I would have been like, yeah, and fuck that. We
need to worry about something bigger than that, because those
motherfuckers are not gonna make or break this election. And
we spent a lot of resource chasing them, going to barbershops,
talking to Killer mic and all this bullshit to make
it look like, oh gott to bring them in, and
we're just wasting our time, Like we need to look

(01:12:03):
at the games we need to make with women who
are who had this abortion thing, and we need to
look at the games we need to make with uh
with white men and like taketo men, And it didn't happen.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
It's and I don't know that more time would have mattered,
because it just would have been two years of extra
effort and energy for more white men to go vote
and the white women to still go vote, and these
Hispanic men, Hispanic men to be like I think.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
They would have.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
I think they would have hit her harder with two
years of prep than they did with this last second
switch out because they weren't They weren't ready for her
as a candidate.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
They really didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
That part I agree with.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
But the only thing that that's like I said, there's
no I can't strategically point to anything she did wrong.
I can just point to Donald Trump knows the soul
of this country better than than anyone, because he just said,
black woman, fuck y'all talking about and you know what here?

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
I knew it was a lot of racists in this country, right,
and they get mad when they call don't call me racist.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
I don't know what. I don't know another term.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
What else is it? Then?

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
But I knew, like it's a lot but this many dog.

Speaker 6 (01:13:22):
They showed you this right justin I think for a
lot of for a lot of people, it you be
told the reality of how serious the misogyny, the sexism,
and the racism was America. Showed his face. So I
don't want to hear any more excuses. You showed me
the truth, so I'm going to believe you now. You

(01:13:42):
you know, because like Rogic said, these same people that
was cheering and ship like this, it's time to vote,
and the collective showed me that's not what they wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Yeah, and young white people broke for Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
People that listened to Joe Rogan, that age group, like
I'm looking at I suppose right now went on on
my phone. Uh, white people between eighteen and twenty nine,
forty nine percent forty nine percent like have and half
white people. Because no, you think young white people going Democrat. Nah,

(01:14:18):
it was that was fifty fifty basically white people thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
To forty five.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Uh fifty five percent Trump white people forty five to
sixty four. That's about the Joe Rogan age group sixty
two percent, And that's twenty five percent of the electorate.
That's twenty five percent of the vote young white people. Man,
it's white folks fucked us up, you know. And now

(01:14:43):
my mom, we I already said the white women and
all that shit. White women had abortion on the line,
and I think it moved them to two percentage points.
That's crazy because that and nothing and most importantly, and
I'll hit this and then we can move the fuck off.
But most importantly, I don't want to hear any excuses
because in the state of North Carolina, every Democrat office

(01:15:08):
basically one except her. They don't That's not the economy,
that's not Palestine, that's not whatever fucking thing you think
it is. That's not messaging. So you tell me Josh
Stein had amazing messaging, Nigga, I don't think I saw
Josh Stine commercial. I didn't, you know what I mean, Like,

(01:15:29):
I might have saw one two Josh Stine commercials the
whole election cycle. It ain't about that, brou They.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
Just said, hey, he's been no money.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
And the sad thing for all the black activist types
and probably maybe even a little bit for our podcast.
Last time Trump won, at least the shock and that
heard amongst.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
White people led to white guilt dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
You know, I look at my I look at our
PayPal account getting donations. I'm so sorry for the white people.
Hear some money I just signed up. I need my
friends to hear this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I need to hear what black people think. Brother. But
I'll tell you that money is go.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Yeah, ain't nobody find the tign up and listen to
our show more? That was some that was that twenty
sixteen shit when they just wanted to feel good and
get wear safety pins and and by I saw somebody
they floated and do a women's march by pussy has
I saw something where that was like women's March and
it was Jill Weinstein Banks, I think his name of Banks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Yeah, it was one of the women from Sisters in Law.
Real good woman. Saw the earth.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Positive woman that is anti Trump. She is not she
is one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Team us.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Well she she typed out, she tweeted out Women's March
dot com brother the amount of alleyupes. Chris Paul wasn't
throwing that many libs to the clippers like he was like,
they have been dunk on Jill Weinstein Banks for four
five days at this point and it's and it's there's

(01:17:05):
no reason to be doing it because she literally is
a good person. But they are like all white women
need to shut the fuck up. And I'm like, right,
this dog is not coming back. This that was it,
that that might be the end of democracy in America,
And that was every person for themselves.

Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
Yeah, as we know it, and and the thing about it,
you know, it's one of these things where you kind
of go through a process of morning because you already
have people that was barely making it and now it's
gonna be harder for them, and all just side of
the average American is right at the borderline. And when
shit start hitting, you're gonna have, you know, a homeless

(01:17:44):
This is gonna go up like it's going to be
a problem. And I was like, Okay, this is what
y'all wanted, Like Roger say, most black people can adapt
and adjust, and a lot of them have been used
to being without and so you know, we.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Know how to shot.

Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
We ain't be like it's two hundred dollars and you
got a bunch of fucking sugar.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Ship.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
You were like, y'all don't believe in rice and beans
and and spam and uders the news that you know,
because they don't know how to shop and ship. They
don't know how to penny pinching.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
And and and and and and and go to the
consignment ship. They don't understand any of that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:14):
So it's gonna be interesting, like and it's gonna be
one of those things where you're gonna see a lot
of them start uh uh uh. Suicide race is gonna
go up, you know, and ship like that, like domestic
violence is gonna go up because a lot of women
are gonna be like, well, fuck, before I knew I
had help, I do, can't get no help no more.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Now I have to stay here and let my husband
with my ass.

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
Divorces are gonna go down because most of the time
women are the people.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
That initiate the divorces.

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
It don't be men, you know, for in straight relationship,
it be women because women been like, oh I've had
enough of your ass.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
Ship, I'm out if you can get divorce, right, if
you can, because Florida's like getting ready of no fault divorce, Like,
it's gonna be bad, right, It's gonna be bad. Some
motherfuckers ain't Some motherfuckers ain't never been here before some
of us have, you know. So we'll find out who
gonna make it, who will survive in America?

Speaker 6 (01:19:04):
Right, it's like the hunger's game. And I think that
thing that breaks my heart the most. I got family
members that was old enough to be around before women
got a bank accounts, old enough to be around before
marrion can have abortions and they've lived long enough to
see it stripped away from them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
How fucking insulting is that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
I think that's the final word on it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
I think we can we I don't know that we
should necessarily even talk about anything else for pregame, like
there's TV and shit, Well, I guess we can get
to that next week, Man's And we started at nine
o'clock at night for those listening later, So that's why
I'm not trying to make this into two hours, because
we still need to do the sports show. So all right, y'all,
we'll be back in a few minutes in the chat,

(01:19:47):
and for those listening later, appreciate you. Like I said,
I'll probably put this on the regular feed just so
people can hear it so we don't have to say
it twice on the regular show.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
But yeah, who will survive in America?
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