July 19, 2024 • 18 mins
Joe Jonas stops by to talk about his new single, "Work It Out" and his new album due out this October!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Joe Jonas is here Today is to day, Friday, July nineteenth,
the release of Work It Out. It's out today.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
What a song. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It feels good to sing it a song to be
back here with you guys. What's good to have you here,
just like home. It's good to have you here without
those other two. So yeah, I'm glad the other guys
are not here. Yeah, I know, screwing up. I heard you,
So I'm going to play work it Out in a minute.
Of course, it's no secret that at one point this
song could have been a song for all of you,
(00:37):
or a song for Dnce Potent even and I heard that.
Nick actually thought, oh, this is our new song, and
you're like, what was that conversation in life?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So technically it was a different song. But the story
goes when we were working probably four or five months
ago for More Brothers music. I started working with this
guy Alexander twenty three, producer musician Justin Tranner, who I
wrote Kick by the Ocean with, and another writer Bo
and we worked on a song called only Love, and
that song I just felt so close to and I
(01:09):
couldn't really find out. I couldn't figure out why. I
felt like it wasn't right for the brothers and I
wasn't right for DNC, and I kind of selfish. It
was like, I want to create something. I have a
lot to say. I don't feel comfortable with other people
being the voice of these songs. So I kind of
had to sit down. Nick was gonna go do a
movie with Paul Rudd, Kevin got another season claiming fame,
and then I was like, hey, and I also been
(01:30):
wanting to write some music. You guys cool with that,
and I want to take that song you really liked.
Nick was like, well, damn, I really like that song.
But fine, So that started the kind of journey for
me to kind of create a new album.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So there's no vicious fight over a song. Oh there
was a viscious I mean it was a lot of blood. Okay,
there's a reason they're out here. But you know what,
we go through these different chapters in our lives where
we have the challenges, we have the great things in
the sad things, the scary things, and at those times
I wish we all had songwriting capabilities. I wish we
could all sit down and do an album. And obviously
(02:03):
this album is a very personal thing. It comes at
an interesting time in your life. And I'm just reading
over some of the things you've said in other interviews
about how you wake up and to go, Okay, if
I don't start controlling my life now, it's going to
be like craziness forever. And so you came to this
point in your life where this album is sort of
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reflecting that in your life.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Definitely, I mean, it's very therapeutic for me, and I
agree with you. I'm so grateful that I have music
as such like a tool to be able to use
as an output. I mean, obviously I think therapy is
great and talking to somebody's great friends, family, but ultimately
as creators that we can put pen to paper and
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feel like we can release it and sometimes share it
with the world, sometimes just keep it for yourself. And
it's like, great, I needed to do that for myself
and for athletes is going to run. For myself, I'm
so happy that I have music. And you know, this
last year doing our tour, seventy plus songs each night
or sixty I think sixty nine, so nice songs. There
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was a lot of times where I was I would
go through the set list and I'm like, God, I
really don't want to play this one. But then you
perform it and see how it affects somebody in the audience,
and like, how lucky am I that I get to
do this for almost twenty some years. There you go
and I get to make people feel something, whether if
it's emotional or you realize, wow, that's their song that
got them through that difficult time. So I wanted to
create something that was like, look, if this helps somebody
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else through what they're going through, great and work it out.
Is essentially that it's the idea of a conversation you
can have with yourself in the mirror where you're like, look,
no one's going to come save you from me what
you're going through. You got to shake it off yourself
and figure this out. And then it's kind of explaining
it to other people and saying, all right, I've gone
through it, maybe I can help you along the way,
and in like a pop rock fun way that you
don't really realize what you're listening.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
To that So I love the heavy lyrics, so like
poppy music.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I mean, some of my favorite songs of all time.
Are are really heavy lyrics with happy music, and until
you dissect them, you don't really understand.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That sometimes you write a song or an artist. An
artist will write a song and it really is I
got to get this out of my system, and it
really is just kind of lashing out of the whole
world about how I hate people. I just I just
need to. And they performed these songs at their concerts
thinking I just crept all over our audience emotionally, just
once again, and I'm getting away with it and they're clapping, Wait,
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have you.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Ever written one? And you're like, yeah, this one I'm
not going to release, and like, I'm just gonna keep
this one under my pillow from me.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yes, you know, that's funny you say that there was
a song I was thinking about recently and I played
for some of the record labels that are in the hallway,
and this is years ago, and I was going through
something and I wrote this song just like I was like, ah,
I was really angry about a situation and I was like,
what do you guys think, And they're like, well, it's cool.
I don't know if you'll want to have this released
and like or have to be thinking about this in
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a year and I was like, you know, you're right. Yeah,
I'm like, you don't want to create an enemy out
of something that you know. At the end of the day,
it was for me and that's what I have. And
I'm like, I'm happy I created it, but I don't
feel like sometimes it's necessary for it all to be
out there.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Maybe next album, right, next album. Joe Jonas here has
his music to you know, as his therapy and in
his cathartic moments. What do we have? I've got nothing.
You've got Gandhi has our artwork.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yes, that's great. What do you have?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I feel like when I'm pissed off, I put music
on it and just like dance to it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But what do you Okay? So that's how you get
it out? I know you. This is why I'm fed up.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I need something other than eating, you know, and for
a walk with your dogs alone.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
That alone, probably okay. I about reading.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I like to read born drinking. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Otherwise a therapy little hooker hookers and blow it's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I'm all good.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Now that's the name of your hit song.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I should show more gratitude for these things. Anyway. So
you've been out on the road and continue to be
on the road with your brother.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Pretty much are doing shows on the weekends. But after
what we just did, it feels like a walk in
the park. To be honest, we'd played the Calgary Stampede
last weekend. It's just wild.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, didn't your debut work it out at that show?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I did, yeah, Which is funny because on paper, you're like,
this is gonna be sick. You get to the stage,
in the stage is like pretty barren, so you're like
all right, which I found myself wanting to jump in
the audience. But luckily the crowd is all drinking all
day because it's a Stampede, and they're all in cowboy
hats and cowboy boots and they're having a blast. I
was like, this is the perfect audience for a performance
like this, and it was. It's always a little nerve
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wrecking playing something new, you know. I feel like there's
that that moment where you're on stage and you realize
I really hope the idea. You're like, this is great,
I really want to performance. You get up there and
they don't know this. They happen to know a more
lyrics and expected from just like even TikTok you know,
you you sample some of the song and there they
learn it, which is kind of crazy, but was a rodeo.
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It's a technically a stampede, not a rodeo.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I don't know the difference, but the difference.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
There's like one hundred thousand people that show up for
this all most of Canada goes and it's like a
week long thing, a lot of different performers. We had
a lot of chicken wings and beer.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It was great. So the album Music for People who
Believe in Love is coming out when October nineteenth. Okay, right,
And so going back to something you said earlier about
the song that will never be released and your guys said, hey,
in a year from now.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I've got a couple of those.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yes, Okay. There's the whole point when someone writes an
album and produces an album that's really about your life
where it was at that moment in time. And sure
when it's all released and said and done, you're a
new person. Maybe you've moved on.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
But really a good point.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
This one came about pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Though it did come pretty fast. I mean, I feel
like it's interesting to say that I feel like part
of this body of work I was listening back to
I played it short a friend yesterday, the guy that
we created What a Man Got to Do, actually the Brothers.
I was doing a song with him yesterday and I
played him the whole album and he was like, oh wow,
it's like really interesting because I feel like the genre wise,
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it's kind of like all over the place, but it's cohesive.
And I was like, that's perfect. This is exactly what
I want. I feel like in the place of my life,
I wasn't sure like who I was. I was quite
like on a journey. At one point, I was like,
maybe I'll just go live in the desert. Maybe I'll
just I don't know. I went on a road trip
and I was just finding myself listening to a lot
of like country Western music, and so there's a lot
of different kind of types of music that you're gonna
hear on the body of work, and I feel like
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it's important for I guess listeners of any artists, you
go like, this is where they were at. They might
be now six months removed, two years removed from when
they release it, but you almost are able to put
on your thinking cap and put them into the hot
seat of like, this is where I was emotionally personally,
it was confusing and I was trying to figure out
who I am and kind of getting to know myself again.
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And here I am. So it's it's exciting and also
I think probably my favorite thing, and this is more
features on this project than I think any any Brothers
or solo stuff we've done. I think there's about seven
or eight features on this album, which is wild. I
reached out to a lot of friends and just said, hey, like,
I'm a fan and I would love to send you
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a song if you're interested. So I can't wait for
people to see and hear who is on this.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
We're going to hold that information back until the release
of the albums.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I get introll every time you do an interview because
I say something too early, but I don't mind. I
think I think it's exciting. I mean, there's there's some
that have been already kind of rumored, because you how
easy it is rumored. Who was rumored? And see I
just want to say the biggest artists in the world
so people get the album. Beyonce, Yeah, start that. I
(09:25):
think the there's a Brazilian artist Louisa songs. I'm a
big fan of. Okay, you may or may not hear
on this album. Okay, that'd be funny if we don't.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I could keep just see.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I could do this all day.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You can play this a stupid game all day.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Start saying like comedians, magicians, Carrot Talk performs, Gordon ramsay's great,
it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Is it hard to let go of a song?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Like once you record it and it's done, and you
do the collab or you do whatever, and then you
listened back and you're like, yeah, I think it's ready.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
It's ready for release. It's a great question. We we
say this a lot. People have been like, you've made
this in like two weeks, and I was like, well,
I had the studio for two weeks, but probably similar
to a film or TV show, you edit until the
last second. Yeah, And I found that I'm happy to
kind of walk away. I mean, I feel like I
don't want to overthink it too. I can like release
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it and feel comfortable. Now. The producers might say something differently,
but I feel like, once it's ready, it's ready.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So I know you said that it is definitely therapy
for you. Yeah, is it therapy performing it a year
down the road, or is it more like trauma lived again.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It's a great question as well. I had a conversation
with an amazing artist recently. I won't say names because
I don't want to put them on blast, but it's
a great story. They were mentioning a song that they
kind of at some point in their career, they felt
it was difficult to perform. They're just like, I don't
feel attached to the song anymore. I perform it every night.
It's everyone's favorite song, but I feel like I've grown
as an artist, which arguably most people do, and especially
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for me my brothers. We play songs that we wrote
when we were like fifteen years old, and we're saying
things in the song that we're like, oh, like we're
talking about We're talking about like things that don't even
really exist anymore, like AOL chat, Like there's things on
in Jonahs. Most songs that are just you know, you
age out of. And I think, what we what we've grown,
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What I've grown to learn from that experience. This artist,
one of their favorite artists, looked at them and said, oh,
this song is not yours anymore. You have to you
have to realize that that's theirs and they deserve the
audience deserves to have it in their favorite fashion, because
a lot of times I've gotten up there and changed
songs to sound a little bit like with the times
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of the sound that's out there. It could be like updated,
or I'll do an electric electro version of the song.
And then you find you like the audience is sitting
there and I've gone to concerts where I'm like, just
play the song. I want to hear my song. And
so if you're able to kind of remind yourself and
take yourself out of that, at least from me, that
helped a lot playing some of these old Jonas songs
that I kind of rolled my eyes and went like,
a here we go. Now, I'm like, I appreciate it
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so much more because I see it's like, you know what,
that's their song, that's not mine anymore, and I've got
to give that song respect for them.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Of course. Is a song is called work it Out,
it's out today. We're going to play it for you
in just a few seconds. How was Greece?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Oh my god, the place is my first time. That
was amazing. It is an incredible place. So much fish
man now, although Aquaman doesn't eat fish.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I that.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Would not be right, that would be right, and like
I'll eat enough fish to be coming up. That's not
I don't think I saw him eating fish.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I loved it. It's so beautiful and so welcoming. We
we stayed. I stayed for like two weeks and I
had the best time. There's a big hotel opening out
there and greet people party so hard. It's so fun,
I know.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
And they're also gorgeous out there.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
They are very pretty beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I love like we were in meekon Osment several years ago.
And of course you wake up at noon, you go
to the beach, you get home and you eat, and
you get home, you take a disco and app and
then you go out for dinner. At eleven or twelve,
I went to dinner.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I was like, I couldn't hear I couldn't hear anything.
It was so loud. The music was so loud.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's awesome. It was great. It's literally like, did you
dance till the sun came up?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Of course I did. Hair flip.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It's nice, but you needed to get away. We need
these getaways and even if you can't go to Greece,
you can do a weekend up the road with your
friends at their cabin or something. Just you gotta get away.
Do you find inspiration on a beach in grease eating
fish or is that your turn off? You don't want
to think about writing a song or where you're going.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I agree with what you said. How it can be anywhere.
I mean, it can be down to the Jersey Shore
if that's for you. I honestly for me, as like
somebody that needs that loves to perform, loves to create,
I have to like go and find inspiration as well.
I feel like it's so important. And so the next
album is about fish. The next album's out fish.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, no, boy, these are important things. Yeah, knock on
with You said something earlier about looking out of the crowd.
Was it called Canada Stampede. It's called Calgary Stampede.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Okay, most of Canada was there and.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Looking at the crowd and thinking maybe I should CrowdSurf.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Do you CrowdSurf? That seems terrifying.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I've attempted it. Well, that's the time. I think our
audience was a little young to when I was thinking
about it. I was like, I know this is the
smartest idea. But DNC days, Yeah, there was plenty of
jumping in the audience and getting wild, and now it's
kind of fun to I feel like there was a
time when we were performing, like during I guess COVID days,
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and it felt like like, all right, you can't really
there was a reason you couldn't get in the audience.
Now I'm like, screw that. I want to be out there.
I want to be as close as I can. And
so it's always quite funny. I can always see my
security look at me and he's like he's like ready
about to like like go for a run. He's like,
are we doing it? Are we doing it? But if
there's an opportunity, I mean, I feel like it's always
so fun to get closer to the audience as best
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as possible.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
On me, So your backstage about to go out there
announcing you for your first song. If it's the Brothers
versus DNCE versus Solo, are those three different show jonases
that are about to jump out on that stage or
or there you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I do feel like
there's maybe not persona is not the right word, but energy. Yeah,
different energies. I mean yeah, like I think with DNC,
it's like we lay it all out there, and it's like,
it's always so funny. Every time we look at a setlist,
it'll be like Cake by the Ocean and then like
this really soft, beautiful song, and I'm like, I am
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so out of breadth. So usually I'm like like right
after after out of breath. But to your point, yeah,
I feel like there is different energies, and especially with
this new album that I'm releasing, like there's a lot
of emotion attached to this, so it will be a
bit not somber. It's fun, there's a lot of Even
the first single it's it's it's an energetic tune, but
there are there's a lot of heart to it. So
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I do have to put on a different thinking cap
or it's like putting on a character. And I enjoyed that.
I mean, grew up doing theater and I understand what
it's like to go to concerts and you want to
feel not only entertained, but like, how can you look
at a body of work and say, Okay, we want
to present this in the best way possible. So it's
been a lot of fun ideas about how to bring
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this to life and you know, take it on a road.
Maybe it would be fun.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
There we have it. We got to play the song.
Of course, give me the album release date again, October nineteenth.
That's music for people who believe in love. But today
July nineteenth, Friday, July nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yes, we make it easy for me. I'm so badhood
dates that they just say nineteenth to everything. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Oh they're other saying that the date's wrong. See you
said it. Wait October eighteenth, ye boy, thank god you're here.
Wow late, there's still plenty of time before Tiller eighteenth.
October eighteenth. But today, Friday, July nineteenth, we gave you
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the first cut. Of course, Uh, work it out crazy.
Are you already writing your new album?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's it's pretty much done.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, you've got like thirteen songs.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I mean no, no, no, not this new album, the next album,
follow up? Yeah, yeah, the one after that. Yes, actually yes, really.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I'm working on more. And then I was in this
writing for a brother's album yesterday. So just like keep
it going. I feel like at this place, this point
in our career, with the guy. It's so supportive and
I'm so like I was on the phone with Nick yesterday.
It was really funny. He's like, Hey, I heard the podcast.
Is you talking about that. I'm like, oh, yeah, were
you upset about what I said? He's like, no, no, no, no,
I thought it was great. So I think it's so
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different as adults were looking out for each other, but
also like we want to support. Like he's he's working
on stuff constantly. I'm working on stuff. Nick Heavin is two,
and it's it's nice to just keep the train moving.
I mean, there's there's some really exciting stuff we're doing
for the brothers and this project for solo stuff. I
just I don't think it's at this place in the
music industry. You just keep going. You don't have to
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like slow down or take big breaks. So if you're
inspired going the studio.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
As they say, don't stop running because it'll catch up
to you. Keep going.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Nice. That's scary, but I like it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
It is frightening.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
We'll leave on that note.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
We'll leave on let down our note. Thanks Elvis, Joe Jonas,
this is work it out. Thanks for coming in, Joe.
I'm you get someone's motive be driven,
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Joe Jonas is here Today is to day, Friday, July nineteenth,
the release of Work It Out. It's out today.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
What a song. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It feels good to sing it a song to be
back here with you guys. What's good to have you here,
just like home. It's good to have you here without
those other two. So yeah, I'm glad the other guys
are not here. Yeah, I know, screwing up. I heard you,
So I'm going to play work it Out in a minute.
Of course, it's no secret that at one point this
song could have been a song for all of you,
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or a song for Dnce Potent even and I heard that.
Nick actually thought, oh, this is our new song, and
you're like, what was that conversation in life?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So technically it was a different song. But the story
goes when we were working probably four or five months
ago for More Brothers music. I started working with this
guy Alexander twenty three, producer musician Justin Tranner, who I
wrote Kick by the Ocean with, and another writer Bo
and we worked on a song called only Love, and
that song I just felt so close to and I
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couldn't really find out. I couldn't figure out why. I
felt like it wasn't right for the brothers and I
wasn't right for DNC, and I kind of selfish. It
was like, I want to create something. I have a
lot to say. I don't feel comfortable with other people
being the voice of these songs. So I kind of
had to sit down. Nick was gonna go do a
movie with Paul Rudd, Kevin got another season claiming fame,
and then I was like, hey, and I also been
(01:30):
wanting to write some music. You guys cool with that,
and I want to take that song you really liked.
Nick was like, well, damn, I really like that song.
But fine, So that started the kind of journey for
me to kind of create a new album.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So there's no vicious fight over a song. Oh there
was a viscious I mean it was a lot of blood. Okay,
there's a reason they're out here. But you know what,
we go through these different chapters in our lives where
we have the challenges, we have the great things in
the sad things, the scary things, and at those times
I wish we all had songwriting capabilities. I wish we
could all sit down and do an album. And obviously
(02:03):
this album is a very personal thing. It comes at
an interesting time in your life. And I'm just reading
over some of the things you've said in other interviews
about how you wake up and to go, Okay, if
I don't start controlling my life now, it's going to
be like craziness forever. And so you came to this
point in your life where this album is sort of
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reflecting that in your life.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Definitely, I mean, it's very therapeutic for me, and I
agree with you. I'm so grateful that I have music
as such like a tool to be able to use
as an output. I mean, obviously I think therapy is
great and talking to somebody's great friends, family, but ultimately
as creators that we can put pen to paper and
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feel like we can release it and sometimes share it
with the world, sometimes just keep it for yourself. And
it's like, great, I needed to do that for myself
and for athletes is going to run. For myself, I'm
so happy that I have music. And you know, this
last year doing our tour, seventy plus songs each night
or sixty I think sixty nine, so nice songs. There
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was a lot of times where I was I would
go through the set list and I'm like, God, I
really don't want to play this one. But then you
perform it and see how it affects somebody in the audience,
and like, how lucky am I that I get to
do this for almost twenty some years. There you go
and I get to make people feel something, whether if
it's emotional or you realize, wow, that's their song that
got them through that difficult time. So I wanted to
create something that was like, look, if this helps somebody
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else through what they're going through, great and work it out.
Is essentially that it's the idea of a conversation you
can have with yourself in the mirror where you're like, look,
no one's going to come save you from me what
you're going through. You got to shake it off yourself
and figure this out. And then it's kind of explaining
it to other people and saying, all right, I've gone
through it, maybe I can help you along the way,
and in like a pop rock fun way that you
don't really realize what you're listening.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
To that So I love the heavy lyrics, so like
poppy music.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I mean, some of my favorite songs of all time.
Are are really heavy lyrics with happy music, and until
you dissect them, you don't really understand.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That sometimes you write a song or an artist. An
artist will write a song and it really is I
got to get this out of my system, and it
really is just kind of lashing out of the whole
world about how I hate people. I just I just
need to. And they performed these songs at their concerts
thinking I just crept all over our audience emotionally, just
once again, and I'm getting away with it and they're clapping, Wait,
(04:21):
have you.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Ever written one? And you're like, yeah, this one I'm
not going to release, and like, I'm just gonna keep
this one under my pillow from me.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yes, you know, that's funny you say that there was
a song I was thinking about recently and I played
for some of the record labels that are in the hallway,
and this is years ago, and I was going through
something and I wrote this song just like I was like, ah,
I was really angry about a situation and I was like,
what do you guys think, And they're like, well, it's cool.
I don't know if you'll want to have this released
and like or have to be thinking about this in
(04:47):
a year and I was like, you know, you're right. Yeah,
I'm like, you don't want to create an enemy out
of something that you know. At the end of the day,
it was for me and that's what I have. And
I'm like, I'm happy I created it, but I don't
feel like sometimes it's necessary for it all to be
out there.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Maybe next album, right, next album. Joe Jonas here has
his music to you know, as his therapy and in
his cathartic moments. What do we have? I've got nothing.
You've got Gandhi has our artwork.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yes, that's great. What do you have?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I feel like when I'm pissed off, I put music
on it and just like dance to it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But what do you Okay? So that's how you get
it out? I know you. This is why I'm fed up.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I need something other than eating, you know, and for
a walk with your dogs alone.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
That alone, probably okay. I about reading.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I like to read born drinking. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Otherwise a therapy little hooker hookers and blow it's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I'm all good.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Now that's the name of your hit song.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I should show more gratitude for these things. Anyway. So
you've been out on the road and continue to be
on the road with your brother.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Pretty much are doing shows on the weekends. But after
what we just did, it feels like a walk in
the park. To be honest, we'd played the Calgary Stampede
last weekend. It's just wild.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, didn't your debut work it out at that show?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I did, yeah, Which is funny because on paper, you're like,
this is gonna be sick. You get to the stage,
in the stage is like pretty barren, so you're like
all right, which I found myself wanting to jump in
the audience. But luckily the crowd is all drinking all
day because it's a Stampede, and they're all in cowboy
hats and cowboy boots and they're having a blast. I
was like, this is the perfect audience for a performance
like this, and it was. It's always a little nerve
(06:26):
wrecking playing something new, you know. I feel like there's
that that moment where you're on stage and you realize
I really hope the idea. You're like, this is great,
I really want to performance. You get up there and
they don't know this. They happen to know a more
lyrics and expected from just like even TikTok you know,
you you sample some of the song and there they
learn it, which is kind of crazy, but was a rodeo.
(06:47):
It's a technically a stampede, not a rodeo.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I don't know the difference, but the difference.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
There's like one hundred thousand people that show up for
this all most of Canada goes and it's like a
week long thing, a lot of different performers. We had
a lot of chicken wings and beer.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It was great. So the album Music for People who
Believe in Love is coming out when October nineteenth. Okay, right,
And so going back to something you said earlier about
the song that will never be released and your guys said, hey,
in a year from now.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I've got a couple of those.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yes, Okay. There's the whole point when someone writes an
album and produces an album that's really about your life
where it was at that moment in time. And sure
when it's all released and said and done, you're a
new person. Maybe you've moved on.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
But really a good point.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
This one came about pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Though it did come pretty fast. I mean, I feel
like it's interesting to say that I feel like part
of this body of work I was listening back to
I played it short a friend yesterday, the guy that
we created What a Man Got to Do, actually the Brothers.
I was doing a song with him yesterday and I
played him the whole album and he was like, oh wow,
it's like really interesting because I feel like the genre wise,
(07:53):
it's kind of like all over the place, but it's cohesive.
And I was like, that's perfect. This is exactly what
I want. I feel like in the place of my life,
I wasn't sure like who I was. I was quite
like on a journey. At one point, I was like,
maybe I'll just go live in the desert. Maybe I'll
just I don't know. I went on a road trip
and I was just finding myself listening to a lot
of like country Western music, and so there's a lot
of different kind of types of music that you're gonna
hear on the body of work, and I feel like
(08:14):
it's important for I guess listeners of any artists, you
go like, this is where they were at. They might
be now six months removed, two years removed from when
they release it, but you almost are able to put
on your thinking cap and put them into the hot
seat of like, this is where I was emotionally personally,
it was confusing and I was trying to figure out
who I am and kind of getting to know myself again.
(08:35):
And here I am. So it's it's exciting and also
I think probably my favorite thing, and this is more
features on this project than I think any any Brothers
or solo stuff we've done. I think there's about seven
or eight features on this album, which is wild. I
reached out to a lot of friends and just said, hey, like,
I'm a fan and I would love to send you
(08:55):
a song if you're interested. So I can't wait for
people to see and hear who is on this.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
We're going to hold that information back until the release
of the albums.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I get introll every time you do an interview because
I say something too early, but I don't mind. I
think I think it's exciting. I mean, there's there's some
that have been already kind of rumored, because you how
easy it is rumored. Who was rumored? And see I
just want to say the biggest artists in the world
so people get the album. Beyonce, Yeah, start that. I
(09:25):
think the there's a Brazilian artist Louisa songs. I'm a
big fan of. Okay, you may or may not hear
on this album. Okay, that'd be funny if we don't.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I could keep just see.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I could do this all day.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You can play this a stupid game all day.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Start saying like comedians, magicians, Carrot Talk performs, Gordon ramsay's great,
it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Is it hard to let go of a song?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Like once you record it and it's done, and you
do the collab or you do whatever, and then you
listened back and you're like, yeah, I think it's ready.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
It's ready for release. It's a great question. We we
say this a lot. People have been like, you've made
this in like two weeks, and I was like, well,
I had the studio for two weeks, but probably similar
to a film or TV show, you edit until the
last second. Yeah, And I found that I'm happy to
kind of walk away. I mean, I feel like I
don't want to overthink it too. I can like release
(10:15):
it and feel comfortable. Now. The producers might say something differently,
but I feel like, once it's ready, it's ready.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So I know you said that it is definitely therapy
for you. Yeah, is it therapy performing it a year
down the road, or is it more like trauma lived again.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It's a great question as well. I had a conversation
with an amazing artist recently. I won't say names because
I don't want to put them on blast, but it's
a great story. They were mentioning a song that they
kind of at some point in their career, they felt
it was difficult to perform. They're just like, I don't
feel attached to the song anymore. I perform it every night.
It's everyone's favorite song, but I feel like I've grown
as an artist, which arguably most people do, and especially
(10:54):
for me my brothers. We play songs that we wrote
when we were like fifteen years old, and we're saying
things in the song that we're like, oh, like we're
talking about We're talking about like things that don't even
really exist anymore, like AOL chat, Like there's things on
in Jonahs. Most songs that are just you know, you
age out of. And I think, what we what we've grown,
(11:16):
What I've grown to learn from that experience. This artist,
one of their favorite artists, looked at them and said, oh,
this song is not yours anymore. You have to you
have to realize that that's theirs and they deserve the
audience deserves to have it in their favorite fashion, because
a lot of times I've gotten up there and changed
songs to sound a little bit like with the times
(11:40):
of the sound that's out there. It could be like updated,
or I'll do an electric electro version of the song.
And then you find you like the audience is sitting
there and I've gone to concerts where I'm like, just
play the song. I want to hear my song. And
so if you're able to kind of remind yourself and
take yourself out of that, at least from me, that
helped a lot playing some of these old Jonas songs
that I kind of rolled my eyes and went like,
a here we go. Now, I'm like, I appreciate it
(12:01):
so much more because I see it's like, you know what,
that's their song, that's not mine anymore, and I've got
to give that song respect for them.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Of course. Is a song is called work it Out,
it's out today. We're going to play it for you
in just a few seconds. How was Greece?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Oh my god, the place is my first time. That
was amazing. It is an incredible place. So much fish
man now, although Aquaman doesn't eat fish.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I that.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Would not be right, that would be right, and like
I'll eat enough fish to be coming up. That's not
I don't think I saw him eating fish.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I loved it. It's so beautiful and so welcoming. We
we stayed. I stayed for like two weeks and I
had the best time. There's a big hotel opening out
there and greet people party so hard. It's so fun,
I know.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
And they're also gorgeous out there.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
They are very pretty beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I love like we were in meekon Osment several years ago.
And of course you wake up at noon, you go
to the beach, you get home and you eat, and
you get home, you take a disco and app and
then you go out for dinner. At eleven or twelve,
I went to dinner.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I was like, I couldn't hear I couldn't hear anything.
It was so loud. The music was so loud.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's awesome. It was great. It's literally like, did you
dance till the sun came up?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Of course I did. Hair flip.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It's nice, but you needed to get away. We need
these getaways and even if you can't go to Greece,
you can do a weekend up the road with your
friends at their cabin or something. Just you gotta get away.
Do you find inspiration on a beach in grease eating
fish or is that your turn off? You don't want
to think about writing a song or where you're going.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I agree with what you said. How it can be anywhere.
I mean, it can be down to the Jersey Shore
if that's for you. I honestly for me, as like
somebody that needs that loves to perform, loves to create,
I have to like go and find inspiration as well.
I feel like it's so important. And so the next
album is about fish. The next album's out fish.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, no, boy, these are important things. Yeah, knock on
with You said something earlier about looking out of the crowd.
Was it called Canada Stampede. It's called Calgary Stampede.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Okay, most of Canada was there and.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Looking at the crowd and thinking maybe I should CrowdSurf.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Do you CrowdSurf? That seems terrifying.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I've attempted it. Well, that's the time. I think our
audience was a little young to when I was thinking
about it. I was like, I know this is the
smartest idea. But DNC days, Yeah, there was plenty of
jumping in the audience and getting wild, and now it's
kind of fun to I feel like there was a
time when we were performing, like during I guess COVID days,
(14:32):
and it felt like like, all right, you can't really
there was a reason you couldn't get in the audience.
Now I'm like, screw that. I want to be out there.
I want to be as close as I can. And
so it's always quite funny. I can always see my
security look at me and he's like he's like ready
about to like like go for a run. He's like,
are we doing it? Are we doing it? But if
there's an opportunity, I mean, I feel like it's always
so fun to get closer to the audience as best
(14:53):
as possible.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
On me, So your backstage about to go out there
announcing you for your first song. If it's the Brothers
versus DNCE versus Solo, are those three different show jonases
that are about to jump out on that stage or
or there you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I do feel like
there's maybe not persona is not the right word, but energy. Yeah,
different energies. I mean yeah, like I think with DNC,
it's like we lay it all out there, and it's like,
it's always so funny. Every time we look at a setlist,
it'll be like Cake by the Ocean and then like
this really soft, beautiful song, and I'm like, I am
(15:36):
so out of breadth. So usually I'm like like right
after after out of breath. But to your point, yeah,
I feel like there is different energies, and especially with
this new album that I'm releasing, like there's a lot
of emotion attached to this, so it will be a
bit not somber. It's fun, there's a lot of Even
the first single it's it's it's an energetic tune, but
there are there's a lot of heart to it. So
(15:57):
I do have to put on a different thinking cap
or it's like putting on a character. And I enjoyed that.
I mean, grew up doing theater and I understand what
it's like to go to concerts and you want to
feel not only entertained, but like, how can you look
at a body of work and say, Okay, we want
to present this in the best way possible. So it's
been a lot of fun ideas about how to bring
(16:17):
this to life and you know, take it on a road.
Maybe it would be fun.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
There we have it. We got to play the song.
Of course, give me the album release date again, October nineteenth.
That's music for people who believe in love. But today
July nineteenth, Friday, July nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yes, we make it easy for me. I'm so badhood
dates that they just say nineteenth to everything. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Oh they're other saying that the date's wrong. See you
said it. Wait October eighteenth, ye boy, thank god you're here.
Wow late, there's still plenty of time before Tiller eighteenth.
October eighteenth. But today, Friday, July nineteenth, we gave you
(16:56):
the first cut. Of course, Uh, work it out crazy.
Are you already writing your new album?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's it's pretty much done.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, you've got like thirteen songs.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I mean no, no, no, not this new album, the next album,
follow up? Yeah, yeah, the one after that. Yes, actually yes, really.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I'm working on more. And then I was in this
writing for a brother's album yesterday. So just like keep
it going. I feel like at this place, this point
in our career, with the guy. It's so supportive and
I'm so like I was on the phone with Nick yesterday.
It was really funny. He's like, Hey, I heard the podcast.
Is you talking about that. I'm like, oh, yeah, were
you upset about what I said? He's like, no, no, no, no,
I thought it was great. So I think it's so
(17:34):
different as adults were looking out for each other, but
also like we want to support. Like he's he's working
on stuff constantly. I'm working on stuff. Nick Heavin is two,
and it's it's nice to just keep the train moving.
I mean, there's there's some really exciting stuff we're doing
for the brothers and this project for solo stuff. I
just I don't think it's at this place in the
music industry. You just keep going. You don't have to
(17:54):
like slow down or take big breaks. So if you're
inspired going the studio.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
As they say, don't stop running because it'll catch up
to you. Keep going.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Nice. That's scary, but I like it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
It is frightening.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
We'll leave on that note.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
We'll leave on let down our note. Thanks Elvis, Joe Jonas,
this is work it out. Thanks for coming in, Joe.
I'm you get someone's motive be driven,
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