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November 19, 2025 15 mins

"Still Don't Care" by Meghan Trainor is out now!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sadie Spins interview lounge. Megan Trainer right here.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Keeps me. I love welcome back, Thank you so much
for having me. I miss you, guys.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well I think you really do. I can tell I
get to tell you. You're giving off. I really I
missed you. Vibe watches our social stuff all the time
you do. Yeah, oh my god, we got to make
those interesting.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Ned the views.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I don't love the views, but we're gonna I'm gonna
help you. We're gonna do some different ideas.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I got to, uh, where do we start. Let's start
with Toy with Me. Okay, the album Toy with Me
isn't out till April of next year.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I know, too far, but that's how long it takes
to print vinyls.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Six months.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
They printed one at a time.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Like, we'll do it in April, and I'm like, but
it's done now.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
But yeah, so if you're doing just digital, you could
have it out tomorrow morning.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah huh, But I'll just sit on these bangers for now.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's a question. I mean, we all have our specific
reasons we appreciate vinyl, but why is making sure vinyl
a priority a big thing for you nowadays?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Sally manager.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
The kids like to buy them and make it art
in their rooms, okay, and I like to sign a
bunch of them, So okay, will you ever go and
sign some and like hide them in the stores so
people find them signed.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Already now I am.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, Okay, the plastic open a little bit, but they
don't mind no if you sign it.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I did like that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
So the album Toy with Me out April twenty fourth.
We've already been playing Still Don't Care Much, which we'll
play again. Uh So this album took a while to
put together for you.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, it took longer than I usually I do, Like
they usually take three months, and this one took longer
because I was also doing a bunch of other stuff
at the same time. But I've never worked so hard
on songs. Usually I write a song in a day
and it's done. I wrote these songs in a couple
of days, but the production and finalizing each song took
months and a lot of different producers because I would

(01:57):
just be like, it's not perfectye, I need to move
it on to someone else, which was difficult. But now
these songs are at a higher level than I think
I've ever done. Before, and I'm very proud of them,
and so I'm trying to spread the word as far
as I can.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
There's bad people to listen to it.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, we want to talk about that. I want to
talk about you outspreading the word and we appreciate you
spreading it for us. You know what I mean, you
know what I hear. But the song, let's let's talk
about uh still don't care? Yes, you you would work
with a producer and say it's time to move on
to someone else, whatever, all with the goal of making

(02:32):
a hit. What does it take? In your Megan Trainer opinion,
what does it take to make a hit?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
But I don't know, everyone, I don't know. I don't
know what makes a hit because I had all about
that base for in like nine months, and I was
everyone's like, just wait for your one song, and I
was like, I don't have it, I guess, and then
that song came out of nowhere, I thought everyone, But
I had that song for like a whole pregnancy, so
a whole nine months.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I wasn't pregnant, but like at the time, so you
never know.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
So let's is that it. If someone comes up with
their answer to make a hit. Is this, this, and this,
it's all bs. It's just I think.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
So I'm like I thought I knew.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
I thought for a while, I was like, I have
a bunch of hits, Like I totally got this formula,
but I know how to make like a pop like
I studied Max Martin. So I I feel like I
tried to make those pop hits, but I couldn't tell
you how to make like the weekend hit, you know,
like one of those songs.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I don't know how to make all genre hits.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I don't know how to make like an awesome Tate
McCrae cool Tit for Tat hit, you know what I mean?
Like I don't know how to write that, but I
know how to write a Megan Trainer self love anthem,
Like you.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Know, I have one more question to go become a
strong radio makes it a hit. This is where I'm going.
I want to talk about this. That's so funny. We're
on the same wavelength, We're on the same beam.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
You Since the very beginning of your career that we
knew of, you came to see us. You loved coming
out and doing radio interviews, and you still do. Yeah,
it's so important. You know, a lot of a lot
of artists would rather just not leave the house and
if they can throw something on a video from their
bedroom and here it is, that's that's as far as
they go.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I flew out to see you, my love, the importance
that I'm only going if Elvis is yes.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
And I'm sure the airlines are so appreciative of that. Well,
because you brought forty five people with you.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I did.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Who are these people?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
My managers that are on the computer, and my stylists,
my husband on my radio team, and there's more out there.
I know.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I love that, But you still do it the way
it's been done for a while. And why is it?
Why is it important to get out and put the
work in like this.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
It's harder than ever now, I guess, to like really
get the word out. I still see like big artists
like release, like.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
For the Grammy nominations.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Recently, I saw someone get nominated for their album that
I never even heard of, and it made me sad.
I was like, oh my god, how did I not
know this even existed? Because the Internet is so big
now and everything is so spread out and there's too
much going on that I have been so nervous about
this record that I've never worked harder on and I'm
so busy with my two kids, and i just want
to show them and make them proud, show them what

(05:06):
Ama can do. So I'm like, I need to say
us to everything and just get out there as much
as possible to have everyone know, like, Hi, I'm mega
trainer and I have songs coming out, check them out please.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's pretty simple.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
But like even when I put this album out, my
manager said it best. He was like, just keep posting,
just keep getting out there, just do the best you can.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Because to this day, people are still like.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
You're married to spy kids, Like they.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Still don't know what And I'm like ten years deep
with spy kids, you know what I mean, I'm two
children down.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
With by kids.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
But they're still like what, Like they're just finding it out.
So I'm still like trying to be everywhere at all times.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Do you and dar still have the toilets right next
to each other in the bathroom?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
We do in the other house.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
The other house.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
We're trying to sell the house. If anyone wants a
house with two toilets, it's on the.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Market, really taking two toilets in the house. We're just saying,
two toylets right back to next.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
To each other, side by side.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Side by side, because it was always the poor rule.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
There's no poo in. Yeah no.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
And my brother's like chilling in that house right now,
and so we sell it. And him and his fiance
soon to be fiance have been pained together and they're like,
we get it, dude, Like they're like, we judged you
and now we understand you.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Wait, does it really make you closer? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Really?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Too much?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Too close?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's too close. It's too close.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Are the kids at the age where they have figured out,
look what mommy can do, like actually watching and acknowledging it.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I cannot tell because sometimes sometimes I think they know,
like when I play like we're mixing the album, so
we play it a lot in in the living room
and kitchen area where the kids are, and when I
start to play it, my two year old runs in
and goes.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It's time to dance, and so I know he's a fan.
But then he looked at.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Me the other day and was like, can you play
Meghan Twena? And I was like, are you asking?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Are you asking me?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Because you think I'm Mega Trainer or do you ask
me because you love Mega Trainer? Do you love Megan Training?
And he's like yeah, and I was like, yeah, she's pretty.
And then I think, because I get so glammed up,
like for my music video, still don't care. I'm like
a princess pop star and I'm flying in the sky.
So I play for my kids to hopefully think they
think I'm cool. And I watched it next to him,
but I was all grungy, like at home and my

(07:13):
scrubs and I was like, that's mama, how cool?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
And he was like can we watch TV? Do you
not know that's me? He goes, I lovely this.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Wait till they get old enough and they're like, mom,
can you introduce me to Ariana Grande?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah? Hopefully someday they'll care.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
So great, Darryl, you and you make it. Is it
fun being parents? Still? Is it still a good things?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Thing?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, I mean it's fun. I mean it's the best
because I keep going back to the days where before
you even met Darryl, I know, right, and you know,
and look at you now and look at you and
Darryl now and kids and two toilets that you're leaving behind.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I know.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
It's just kind of funny how life just takes us
fun places.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, we're blinking and it's going by so fast, too fast.
But we need more kids are yeah, I want a doata.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well what if you don't get a daughter, What if
you get another boy?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
That's all right, I'm gonna love him just as much.
But I thought the first two were girls, and I
was tricked. I love them so much, they're so boring.
Every time I was pregnant with them, I was like,
this is twin girls. I can feel it.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
And I was really wrong somewhat.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
So now you've you've got a lot going on and
you're kind of in a different place with kids, and
what is happening with your career. Is there's something on
this album that we are going to hear that's going
to sound different than the things that we've heard before.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
And do you have a favorite song from the album? Oh,
that's so tough. This album I really studied.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I was doing a lot of private gigs this year,
and I noticed that in my sets, I had a
lot of hits, but they all sounded all over the
place like I had a lot of douop hits, and
then I would sing not so that, ah so no no,
and then me too songs like that, and I was like,
I wish they had friends. I wish me too, and
no had friends anymore, just so by themselves because the
rest is like all do ops. So on this album,

(08:59):
I wrote what I call like older, cooler sisters for
those songs. So if you like those songs, there's more
of that on this album.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
A lot of my songs are like extra musical.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
And then I watched a family member go through an
intense breakup, and so I wrote a lot of angry
songs of like get in girl, I'm gonna take your shopping,
I'm gonna take care of you. This man means nothing,
who cares? So we did. I did a lot of
fassy songs on it. And then I have my one
ballad called Little One that's for my kids, that's like,
please stay this little forever. Okay, you're so cute and innocent.

(09:29):
Nothing bad has happened to you yet, you know. And
at the end they go, I love you, mama, and
it's the cute.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Do they get like a credit for being on your song?
Are the artists?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Now?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I'm amazingly.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeahs are being pumped up.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, they're like is this my song? Like, this is
your song?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
So, of course with the album coming out in April,
I'm looking at the fact that you are doing over
thirty arenas and amphitheaters across North America, including our own
Manasons Bare Garden in July. Please show up play in
the Garden? I mean, does it ever get old?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Oh? I still think my team paid people to show
up to the last time.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'm still not convinced.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I couldn't believe it when I went in there, I
was like, no way, this is full right now, and
that we get to do it again is crazy to me.
And the TD Garden too in Boston, right that's like
my biggest dream. I've never played there, like a headlined
the show by myself only with the jingle balls and like,
which is so fun and cool.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
But so the fun keeps coming, the fun keeps coming.
And I also noticed that some of the proceeds are
going to Trevor Project, which Trevor Project is a major
in my life as well. Why'd you decide Trevor Project.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I've like always tried to collab with them for a
long time now, I just love everything they do and
I want more people to know about them. So wherever
I go on tour, if I can help in any
way spread the word and get more donations, Like that's
the dream come true.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's great for me and them.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
So you go look at those boxes you're checking off.
You go back to Megan when you were eleven years
old and your first.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Song you hear any of this, eleven year old Megan
had no, I can't believe bangs. I did this in
sixth grade and I immediately regretted it and put a
headband up for the rest of my time in school.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
And now she's I love bangs. Now it's okay.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
But just think about the road you have traveled to
get you where you are today with the family and
this career and writing more songs. Yeah, hiring and firing producers.
Never but an eleven year old data.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm crazy. Everyone does that.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Never in years when anyone thinking eleven year old would
even think about, oh.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, I didn't have all these dreams because I didn't
like believe in myself like that.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
When I was younger, I always wanted to I was like,
we're gonna need a tour bus because we're going to tour.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
And he was just laughing, like okay, But I didn't
even like think of these dreams because they weren't even
like attainable in my brain. I was like, there's no
way I'll get that. So when I started, when I
got all about the base and gun number one, I
was like, what else can I achieve? And then when
I met the love of my life and got married
A yeah, I was like, wow, we need kids. And
then when I did that and survived two sea sections,

(11:57):
I was like, there's nothing I can't do. Just trying
to show my kids that, like, you work really hard
and you can have all your dreams come true.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
And now you said you're in a new era where
dudes are suddenly loving you because you're part of these
two you just love me, my dude, yep, because my
boyfriend is one of them.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
The Patrick Mahomes commercial that you're doing, Yeah, stay farmed.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
We love State Armed. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say
what Megan Traders said when she walked in this room,
I had no idea who Patrick Mahomes was.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
She said she had the whole of him.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I read the first email and was like, who's that
and my brother.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I called my brother because I knew was a sports thing.
I knew he would love it. And he goes, you
don't understand how intense, how big this is. This is
the coolest you've actually ever done your whole career.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
And I was like, will you come with me because
I don't know what I'm walking into And I practiced
my lines and then I got there and they were like,
it's funnier when you freestyle, like just make this guy laugh.
And I was like, all right, So I just kind
of spoke my truth a little bit and was like and.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
You are like, who are you, sir?

Speaker 3 (12:54):
And then I was like, oh, he does the sports
and they kept all of that and that was like
the whole commercial and I was.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Like, he does sports.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yea, yeah, that's great. And then I realized how iconic
he was. I was like, oh, I love it.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
We're going back to, you know, eleven year old Megan Trainer,
not really understanding where the dreams are going or what
the dream should be. Anyone who's driving to work right
now listening to this conversation with Megan, you know, if
you've lost your dream, the dreams continue to come your way.
You just have to know how to spot them and
run for them. And I'm assume, I'm assuming that being
in a career as you have done and accomplished, being

(13:30):
in for so long, you really have to reimagine your
dreams constantly. It's not you had a dream at ten
and you that's your life dream. I think it evolves.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
I also have like the best management ever. And they
came over one day, like a year ago, a love
you girls, and they came over and they had big
giant pieces of paper and they said, Okay, we're going
to do a manifestation meeting.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
And I was like what, and they're like, write down
any dream. Here's like and there's no.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
The rule is there's no dream too crazy, you know,
like anything you want.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I was like, hold on, so no, and we.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Just started saying it out loud and they're like, all right,
do you want it in the next year or the
next three years?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
So the next five years, and I was like, in
the next three years.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
And we made Hugeless And in that one meeting, we've
already like knocked off so many bucket list dreams. And
when I tell other artists that they're like your managers
hang out with you, and oh yeah, they like marry
me like they they're in the family with their aunties,
like their uncles there, and so I salute them and

(14:28):
I think they're the greatest.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
And that's why my career is here too.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
That's the thing, you know again.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You don't have to believe in myself.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You don't have to be Megan Trainer or in the
industry that we're talking about to be surrounded by the
people who can sit you down and go, let's do
this for each other. Yeah, you know, because I'm assuming
I don't know your I don't know your management team
that well, but I'm assuming that you're there for them
as well.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Am I there for you?

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Okay? Yes the answers. Yes, Well, I'm so so tickle
to death again that you came to see us. And
I know this is just the fifth of many interviews
that we're going to do with each other. I guess fifth. Yes,
I have pictures of you and I as redheads together.
Yes we were, and neither was original. Neither was Megan Trainer.

(15:13):
The album Toy with Me is coming out next year
April twenty fourth, and the tour with thirty dates plus
maybe more to be added. All announced very soon, including
the garden here in town on July tenth of next year.
And we love you.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Always come back and see us.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I will always, forever and always Megan Trainers still go
to the family

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