November 7, 2024 • 16 mins
Nicole Angemi comes in to discuss her podcast with her daughter, Mother Knows Death! We talk all things gore, autopsies, and crime with the Gross Room herself! Listen to Mother Knows Death HERE!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay. So the last time, the last time Nicole and
Jimmy was with us, it was fascinating. We had such
a great time with you and your daughter Love. Is
she back by the way.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yes, yeah, she's over here sitting quietly on the other side.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Is that Maria? Yes, play Maria. Thanks for coming in today.
I wish I could be in the room with you,
but I don't know. I have some disease. Who knows.
Maybe I need you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So we were first introduced to Nicole and Maria because
Gandhi was having you on her podcast, and now you
have your own podcast on our network. By the way,
welcome to our network. It's so great to have you
here to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Thanks for having us. So we're so honored to be
with you, guys.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
We love it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
The podcast is called Mother Knows Death with Nicole. Maria's
in there, and I got to say, it's this weekly
podcast and it's focusing on things that I find interesting.
I know Gandhi does too, and Daniel Daniel pretends not to,
but I know she loves it, focusing on pathology, forensics,
death and more. And you said to last time you
(01:00):
were here, Nicole, that really just sticks with me, and
that we really learn more from dead people than we
do people who are live sometimes, right.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yes, yes, that's what my saying is. Morchu i vivastocent,
which means the dead teach a living.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yes, there you go. All right, let's get going, let's
talk about it. But did you guys just pull a
battery out of a man's penis?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
No, we didn't, but we reported a story that's on
today's episode actually of a man who presented to the
emergency room who had a triple a battery that he
stuck inside of his jurethra through his penis.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Better than a d battery, I think it is.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's crazy, it wasn't a car battery or something that. Well, yeah,
obviously he does it for some sort of gratification. I'm
assuming right, it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Had to be the most painful thing ever, so.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Some people do it for sexual gratification. But are people
This particular guy had some mental health issues and so
that's why he did it. But we've had cases on
our website, which is called the Grosser Room dot com,
where we showcases like this. We've had cases of a
guy who stuck a fork inside his yes, which end, Yeah,
(02:19):
the fork end.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yes, yes, they like the photograph is outrageous.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Yes, no, no, no, no, obviously, and Nicole, you guys know
a lot more about the human body than we do
because of your work and studies.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
The body can fill all sorts of things in different
orifices that we don't believe it's possible, but you see.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
It all, especially the reck the ones.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
We always end up talking about this on this show
because you guys there.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I mean, I've never tried either one, but they be
much less painful than the battery of the urethra.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well I've never tried either one either. But the thing
is that that that's a dude thing. Okay, that's that's
for the prostate, and that's usually in males most of
the time that we get these rectal foreign bodies.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But let's be very clear, uh, they do a lot
more conversations about many other things, not just things that
go into holes in the body. I mean, although we
have a.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Lot of that, but we did have it.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
We had a story this week of a guy who
went into the hospital and he ended up having a
live cockroach inside of his stomach.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yes, yeah, well, they have an.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Exoskeleton, so I think that the that the acid from
the stomach wouldn't kill it right away. I mean it
probably went in his mouth when he was sleeping. I
would assume.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes, we hear about that. Excuse me, we hear about
that all the time. Were people, you know and soundly
and things crawl up their noses or in their ears
or in their mouths, and a lot I'm assuming a
lot of time we don't never know about it.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Well, Maria, what was that one we did with the spider? Oh,
we had a spider that crawled into a woman's vagina
while she was sleeping. Where's nightmare? The spider? Don't ever
sleep without panties on? Terrible idea.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I use that rule in my home.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Used to say, air it out. I don't understand. No, no,
you don't. I wouldn't do that. We have a lot
of crazy stories.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
We had one of a woman who had a was
it cricket, a cricket or a grasshopper inside of her
uterus a cricket. That was a different story though that
didn't happen while she was sleeping.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
And then we had that life fly that was in
somebody's colonoscopy.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You remember, Oh, yeah, all of these things that was
dead I thought that's why I was dead.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Oh I thought it was a lie, but it was intact.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, I have some follow up questions. All right, so
let's start with the cockroach that was living in this
man's stomach.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
How do they identify that?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Is there?
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Is it an MRI sc like?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
How do you find that?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
So they did an endoscopy, which is when they stick
a camera down your throat and into your stomach and
they salt something in there, and they suctioned it out.
And when they pulled it out, they were shocked to
see that and that it was still alive.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay, all right, the lady, maybe maybe not the profession
you should be going when you make noises.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like, oh no, I can't. I'm so I'm fascinated by
all of these things, she says. And it's one of
a lot of what she says. You're like, that cannot
be true, But she says a book, an entire book
that does have some photos.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
All stuff is true.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And the woman with the spider, how did did did
you get the spider out? Was it or did they
get the spider out?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, they took it out.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I don't remember what the story was surrounding it. But
we definitely had some weird foreign bodies in the vagina
as well.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Oh god.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
More common in men for sure. Okay, this is this
is a known thing with dudes.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, don't get me. I didn't do it. But I mean,
does anything phase you anymore? I mean, or just to
the point now where it's all science right before you
and so you speak, you speak about all of this
with with with with ease and no problem at all.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean I do get shocked all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
You just I mean, that's the most interesting thing about
this field is that you just will.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Never see it all.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Ever, There's always going to be something new every day,
which makes it exciting to keep learning, you know. But no, nothing,
I mean I've seen a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So do they start with like double a's and then
they work the question?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Actually so it's called it's called your wreath roll sounding
and there are people that they use tapers to stretch
it out. They he probably did start with something smaller.
They actually found other things in his bladder too, right, Yeah,
toothpaste caps and then paper you know that always starts
flights in our house.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Whereas cat, did you check the bladder?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I just don't understand why people would would start with
something sharp like that. I think something that was a
little bit more round and softer, maybe I would start
with it.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
We just don't do that period.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
We well, okay, let's let's let's move let's move over
to the left. Right, a little bit of forensics. Forensics
and actually trying to figure out what happened to someone
after they have passed away. You must find that extremely
interesting as well. You look for all the clues, you
find things, and a lot of times you're surprised at
the cause of death. And some people, right yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I mean sometimes when we open someone up, we could
just tell right away how they died. They you could
tell if they had a pulmonary embolism or if they
had One time, I had a person that had a
diverticulitis that perforated and they that was their cause of death.
I've had just so many cases like that. But it's
the most exciting when you open someone up and right
(07:57):
away you're like, okay, I figured it out.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
It's that quick. Other times it's not that easy.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, for instance, sad sad story, maybe too soon. But
when a friend of ours, Liam Payne, passed away out
of the country. We're all fascinated to find out what happened,
because this is where if a celebrity passes away, you
have just a list of theories and conspiracy theorist in
that and I tend not to believe any of them
(08:24):
until they're proven by someone. What did you learn from
watching that case? From Afar?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
So with all, we do celebrity deaths all the time
on the gross Room website because so many people do
have questions about this, and a lot of times I
have access to their autopsy report, so I could really
explain what happened. And in this case, they have only
really released the preliminary autopsy results, which is a report
that comes out within twenty four hours after someone dies.
(08:52):
And what was interesting with his case is that he
did have a history of suicidal ideation. So a lot
of people were assuming that he jumped maybe instead of
fell off. But I think, based upon what I've heard
so far far, that I think that he fell because
it seems like so normally if you were to jump
(09:13):
or even fall off of a balcony, then the normal
human instinct would be to try to brace your fall,
right and yeah, and he had no and you would
see that at autopsy certain signs there would be certain
skull fractures, maybe your fractures in the feet that you
would see if someone was intentionally doing it, that you
see in most of these cases. But in his case,
(09:34):
it didn't appear that he was conscious or even with it.
When he felt that he even attempted to try and
even in suicide cases you see people trying to not
hurt themselves as they fall.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
They were saying this morning that they thought he had
fainted on the balcony, that there was now footage and
it looked.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Like I totally think that that's probably what happened. Like
the rest of the report hasn't come out, but he
did hit his head and that was ultimately how those
injuries were enough to not compatible with life. And then
of course he had other ones in his abdomen, chest
and stuff, but the head injury alone was enough to
kill them.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
By the way, we're speaking with Nicole and Jimmy. Her
daughter is here as well, Maria. The podcast on the
Elvis Tran podcast network is called Mother Knows Death with
Nicole and Jimmy and you Out of the Shoot had
so many followers interested in what you had to say
about your line of work, your profession. I mean you
have millions of followers I'm seeing right here, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I mean I started off and it just as soon
as I started off, it just really it really hit off.
And it was when Instagram was really organic and awesome
and everybody could see yeah stuff.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Sometimes I go there and they've taken your picture away.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yeah, that's my problem that she's got flag a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I posted a picture of a brain tumor a couple
of weeks ago and they said it was graphic violence.
And then I had another one recently. I don't even
know if I told you this, Maria. It was for
unregulated goods, meaning selling weed or something, and it was
a guy that had a fungal infection on his face.
I don't understand how their algorithm works anymore. But yeah,
a lot of people became interested in it, and it
(11:12):
just grew like wildfire, and it was just so cool
to see that other people were interested in it as
much as I am.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's all about the science.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I know.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
We talk about slants on our show a lot. Especially
Gandhi loves the fact that even in this age of
modern medicine, there are still practices being used that were
used way before we were born, right absolutely, And so
I don't know what is it that fascinates you and
Maria to this subject so dearly.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I just like the ever changing stories. Like I said,
with pathology, there's just always something to talk about. And
that's why we started this podcast because it's very relatable
to real life. We hear these stories on the news
all the time, and I always do say too, there's
this big population of true crime, like people are just
obsessed with it right now, but most of the people
(11:59):
that you talk talk to you don't really know a
ton of people that were murdered or in that way.
But this kind of stuff especially, and we do talk
about that as well because it's interesting. But this stuff
is just is just very relatable to everyday life. We
had a case this week that we talked about too,
a guy who went to the doctor and they told
him that he was obese and they put him on ozembic.
(12:22):
That's a big thing we've been hearing about on the news.
And then it turns out that he really wasn't obese.
He had a sixty pound tumor growing in his abdomen
and they thought that that was what was causing his
way gain?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, how do you miss that?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
That's like a whole other story. Wow, there's some story.
I mean you say, like if you could get shocked
and stuff. We reported a case about a month or
two ago about a surgeon that took out the wrong organ.
Oh yeah, and I you know, a as a medical
professional on someone that's up in people's organs all the time.
I don't understand how that's possible. But yeah, so you
(12:57):
get shocked sometimes when you hear this stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Gandhi got some follow up questions. I know you do.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean when I talked to Nicole the first time,
we were talking about, you know, analyzing all of these
different things and seeing people when they die. Are there
certain things that you now will absolutely stay away from,
things you would never let your children do. And she
did have an answer. I believe it was motorcycles.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, the motorcycles are no in my house. Not my
husband either. I say, well, my husband's a firefighter, so
I always say, you know, you could die at work,
so you're just not dying recreationally.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
It's not happening, right.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
But yeah, I wouldn't be happy about it if they
got one, for sure, they're just they're just so so
bad and you just don't really understand the extent of
it until you go to the medical examiner's office and
see how many of them you're seeing every day.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We talked about dental health too, but I hope none
of you have none of.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Dental health. Wise, we do have a few teeth left.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Talk about dental health and we hear from doctors all
the time about how what's happening your mouth really controls
your entire body.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Everything we did, Oh that we talked about that case
last time of that the NFL player, Yeah that had
the he had the dental abscess that he didn't get
taken care of it and ended up killing him.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, so sad.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
They found lesions on his brain and they couldn't from Yeah,
it was because.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
It's very close.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
It's all your teeth are millimeters away from your your
brain and they're right there.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
So I want to go to your house for Thanksgiving
dinner sitting around that table.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So last year in the grocery room, we did an
article on cannibalism for for Thanksgiving, just.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
A bunch of different cases. Yeah, that was really interesting, fascinating.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Also when it goes to back to dental health. If
your doctors or whatever, they fight a problem with your heart,
you may have to have an operation or an operation
on something else. If you have iss use in your mouth,
they won't do it until those issues are cleaned up.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, because they're really scared of bacterial infections traveling to
the heart and it really could cause a lot of problems.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Right, get your teeth check.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
That's your teeth. It's all coat.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's the first thing my doctor looks at. She immediately
goes from my mouth and.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
It's it's really annoying to me because the teeth are
considered the first part of your digestive system. But then
it's not typically covered by insurance, so a lot of
people don't have thousands of dollars of cash to just
go get their teeth fixed all the time. And you
just think, like, why isn't your teeth counted as equally
as as your stomach or your esophagus.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You know, you're sure.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
If it is your eyes too, same exact thing, right,
right exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
They don't cover much either.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
They cover like a dental cleaning every year or every
six months, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Everything else is.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Up to you.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, so sometimes you gotta you're going to pay out
of pocket. Yeah, And I know that's crazy, but it's
probably worth it for your health and what could happen
down the line. Look, it's it's it's it's fascinating to
have you guys in here, Nicole and Jim. Of course
Maria is here as well. The podcast is Mother Knows
Death with Nicole and Jemmy. Check it out. It's of
course on your iHeartRadio app and uh and wherever you
(16:09):
get your podcast. But thank you for coming in, Ding
you
Okay. So the last time, the last time Nicole and
Jimmy was with us, it was fascinating. We had such
a great time with you and your daughter Love. Is
she back by the way.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yes, yeah, she's over here sitting quietly on the other side.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Is that Maria? Yes, play Maria. Thanks for coming in today.
I wish I could be in the room with you,
but I don't know. I have some disease. Who knows.
Maybe I need you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So we were first introduced to Nicole and Maria because
Gandhi was having you on her podcast, and now you
have your own podcast on our network. By the way,
welcome to our network. It's so great to have you
here to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Thanks for having us. So we're so honored to be
with you, guys.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
We love it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
The podcast is called Mother Knows Death with Nicole. Maria's
in there, and I got to say, it's this weekly
podcast and it's focusing on things that I find interesting.
I know Gandhi does too, and Daniel Daniel pretends not to,
but I know she loves it, focusing on pathology, forensics,
death and more. And you said to last time you
(01:00):
were here, Nicole, that really just sticks with me, and
that we really learn more from dead people than we
do people who are live sometimes, right.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yes, yes, that's what my saying is. Morchu i vivastocent,
which means the dead teach a living.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yes, there you go. All right, let's get going, let's
talk about it. But did you guys just pull a
battery out of a man's penis?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
No, we didn't, but we reported a story that's on
today's episode actually of a man who presented to the
emergency room who had a triple a battery that he
stuck inside of his jurethra through his penis.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Better than a d battery, I think it is.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's crazy, it wasn't a car battery or something that. Well, yeah,
obviously he does it for some sort of gratification. I'm
assuming right, it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Had to be the most painful thing ever, so.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Some people do it for sexual gratification. But are people
This particular guy had some mental health issues and so
that's why he did it. But we've had cases on
our website, which is called the Grosser Room dot com,
where we showcases like this. We've had cases of a
guy who stuck a fork inside his yes, which end, Yeah,
(02:19):
the fork end.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yes, yes, they like the photograph is outrageous.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Yes, no, no, no, no, obviously, and Nicole, you guys know
a lot more about the human body than we do
because of your work and studies.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
The body can fill all sorts of things in different
orifices that we don't believe it's possible, but you see.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
It all, especially the reck the ones.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
We always end up talking about this on this show
because you guys there.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I mean, I've never tried either one, but they be
much less painful than the battery of the urethra.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well I've never tried either one either. But the thing
is that that that's a dude thing. Okay, that's that's
for the prostate, and that's usually in males most of
the time that we get these rectal foreign bodies.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But let's be very clear, uh, they do a lot
more conversations about many other things, not just things that
go into holes in the body. I mean, although we
have a.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Lot of that, but we did have it.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
We had a story this week of a guy who
went into the hospital and he ended up having a
live cockroach inside of his stomach.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yes, yeah, well, they have an.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Exoskeleton, so I think that the that the acid from
the stomach wouldn't kill it right away. I mean it
probably went in his mouth when he was sleeping. I
would assume.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes, we hear about that. Excuse me, we hear about
that all the time. Were people, you know and soundly
and things crawl up their noses or in their ears
or in their mouths, and a lot I'm assuming a
lot of time we don't never know about it.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Well, Maria, what was that one we did with the spider? Oh,
we had a spider that crawled into a woman's vagina
while she was sleeping. Where's nightmare? The spider? Don't ever
sleep without panties on? Terrible idea.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I use that rule in my home.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Used to say, air it out. I don't understand. No, no,
you don't. I wouldn't do that. We have a lot
of crazy stories.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
We had one of a woman who had a was
it cricket, a cricket or a grasshopper inside of her
uterus a cricket. That was a different story though that
didn't happen while she was sleeping.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
And then we had that life fly that was in
somebody's colonoscopy.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You remember, Oh, yeah, all of these things that was
dead I thought that's why I was dead.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Oh I thought it was a lie, but it was intact.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, I have some follow up questions. All right, so
let's start with the cockroach that was living in this
man's stomach.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
How do they identify that?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Is there?
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Is it an MRI sc like?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
How do you find that?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
So they did an endoscopy, which is when they stick
a camera down your throat and into your stomach and
they salt something in there, and they suctioned it out.
And when they pulled it out, they were shocked to
see that and that it was still alive.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Okay, all right, the lady, maybe maybe not the profession
you should be going when you make noises.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like, oh no, I can't. I'm so I'm fascinated by
all of these things, she says. And it's one of
a lot of what she says. You're like, that cannot
be true, But she says a book, an entire book
that does have some photos.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
All stuff is true.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And the woman with the spider, how did did did
you get the spider out? Was it or did they
get the spider out?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, they took it out.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I don't remember what the story was surrounding it. But
we definitely had some weird foreign bodies in the vagina
as well.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Oh god.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
More common in men for sure. Okay, this is this
is a known thing with dudes.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, don't get me. I didn't do it. But I mean,
does anything phase you anymore? I mean, or just to
the point now where it's all science right before you
and so you speak, you speak about all of this
with with with with ease and no problem at all.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean I do get shocked all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
You just I mean, that's the most interesting thing about
this field is that you just will.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Never see it all.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Ever, There's always going to be something new every day,
which makes it exciting to keep learning, you know. But no, nothing,
I mean I've seen a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So do they start with like double a's and then
they work the question?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Actually so it's called it's called your wreath roll sounding
and there are people that they use tapers to stretch
it out. They he probably did start with something smaller.
They actually found other things in his bladder too, right, Yeah,
toothpaste caps and then paper you know that always starts
flights in our house.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Whereas cat, did you check the bladder?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I just don't understand why people would would start with
something sharp like that. I think something that was a
little bit more round and softer, maybe I would start
with it.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
We just don't do that period.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
We well, okay, let's let's let's move let's move over
to the left. Right, a little bit of forensics. Forensics
and actually trying to figure out what happened to someone
after they have passed away. You must find that extremely
interesting as well. You look for all the clues, you
find things, and a lot of times you're surprised at
the cause of death. And some people, right yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I mean sometimes when we open someone up, we could
just tell right away how they died. They you could
tell if they had a pulmonary embolism or if they
had One time, I had a person that had a
diverticulitis that perforated and they that was their cause of death.
I've had just so many cases like that. But it's
the most exciting when you open someone up and right
(07:57):
away you're like, okay, I figured it out.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
It's that quick. Other times it's not that easy.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, for instance, sad sad story, maybe too soon. But
when a friend of ours, Liam Payne, passed away out
of the country. We're all fascinated to find out what happened,
because this is where if a celebrity passes away, you
have just a list of theories and conspiracy theorist in
that and I tend not to believe any of them
(08:24):
until they're proven by someone. What did you learn from
watching that case? From Afar?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
So with all, we do celebrity deaths all the time
on the gross Room website because so many people do
have questions about this, and a lot of times I
have access to their autopsy report, so I could really
explain what happened. And in this case, they have only
really released the preliminary autopsy results, which is a report
that comes out within twenty four hours after someone dies.
(08:52):
And what was interesting with his case is that he
did have a history of suicidal ideation. So a lot
of people were assuming that he jumped maybe instead of
fell off. But I think, based upon what I've heard
so far far, that I think that he fell because
it seems like so normally if you were to jump
(09:13):
or even fall off of a balcony, then the normal
human instinct would be to try to brace your fall,
right and yeah, and he had no and you would
see that at autopsy certain signs there would be certain
skull fractures, maybe your fractures in the feet that you
would see if someone was intentionally doing it, that you
see in most of these cases. But in his case,
(09:34):
it didn't appear that he was conscious or even with it.
When he felt that he even attempted to try and
even in suicide cases you see people trying to not
hurt themselves as they fall.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
They were saying this morning that they thought he had
fainted on the balcony, that there was now footage and
it looked.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Like I totally think that that's probably what happened. Like
the rest of the report hasn't come out, but he
did hit his head and that was ultimately how those
injuries were enough to not compatible with life. And then
of course he had other ones in his abdomen, chest
and stuff, but the head injury alone was enough to
kill them.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
By the way, we're speaking with Nicole and Jimmy. Her
daughter is here as well, Maria. The podcast on the
Elvis Tran podcast network is called Mother Knows Death with
Nicole and Jimmy and you Out of the Shoot had
so many followers interested in what you had to say
about your line of work, your profession. I mean you
have millions of followers I'm seeing right here, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I mean I started off and it just as soon
as I started off, it just really it really hit off.
And it was when Instagram was really organic and awesome
and everybody could see yeah stuff.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Sometimes I go there and they've taken your picture away.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yeah, that's my problem that she's got flag a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I posted a picture of a brain tumor a couple
of weeks ago and they said it was graphic violence.
And then I had another one recently. I don't even
know if I told you this, Maria. It was for
unregulated goods, meaning selling weed or something, and it was
a guy that had a fungal infection on his face.
I don't understand how their algorithm works anymore. But yeah,
a lot of people became interested in it, and it
(11:12):
just grew like wildfire, and it was just so cool
to see that other people were interested in it as
much as I am.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's all about the science.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I know.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
We talk about slants on our show a lot. Especially
Gandhi loves the fact that even in this age of
modern medicine, there are still practices being used that were
used way before we were born, right absolutely, And so
I don't know what is it that fascinates you and
Maria to this subject so dearly.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I just like the ever changing stories. Like I said,
with pathology, there's just always something to talk about. And
that's why we started this podcast because it's very relatable
to real life. We hear these stories on the news
all the time, and I always do say too, there's
this big population of true crime, like people are just
obsessed with it right now, but most of the people
(11:59):
that you talk talk to you don't really know a
ton of people that were murdered or in that way.
But this kind of stuff especially, and we do talk
about that as well because it's interesting. But this stuff
is just is just very relatable to everyday life. We
had a case this week that we talked about too,
a guy who went to the doctor and they told
him that he was obese and they put him on ozembic.
(12:22):
That's a big thing we've been hearing about on the news.
And then it turns out that he really wasn't obese.
He had a sixty pound tumor growing in his abdomen
and they thought that that was what was causing his
way gain?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, how do you miss that?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
That's like a whole other story. Wow, there's some story.
I mean you say, like if you could get shocked
and stuff. We reported a case about a month or
two ago about a surgeon that took out the wrong organ.
Oh yeah, and I you know, a as a medical
professional on someone that's up in people's organs all the time.
I don't understand how that's possible. But yeah, so you
(12:57):
get shocked sometimes when you hear this stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Gandhi got some follow up questions. I know you do.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean when I talked to Nicole the first time,
we were talking about, you know, analyzing all of these
different things and seeing people when they die. Are there
certain things that you now will absolutely stay away from,
things you would never let your children do. And she
did have an answer. I believe it was motorcycles.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, the motorcycles are no in my house. Not my
husband either. I say, well, my husband's a firefighter, so
I always say, you know, you could die at work,
so you're just not dying recreationally.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
It's not happening, right.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
But yeah, I wouldn't be happy about it if they
got one, for sure, they're just they're just so so
bad and you just don't really understand the extent of
it until you go to the medical examiner's office and
see how many of them you're seeing every day.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We talked about dental health too, but I hope none
of you have none of.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Dental health. Wise, we do have a few teeth left.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Talk about dental health and we hear from doctors all
the time about how what's happening your mouth really controls
your entire body.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Everything we did, Oh that we talked about that case
last time of that the NFL player, Yeah that had
the he had the dental abscess that he didn't get
taken care of it and ended up killing him.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, so sad.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
They found lesions on his brain and they couldn't from Yeah,
it was because.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
It's very close.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
It's all your teeth are millimeters away from your your
brain and they're right there.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
So I want to go to your house for Thanksgiving
dinner sitting around that table.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So last year in the grocery room, we did an
article on cannibalism for for Thanksgiving, just.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
A bunch of different cases. Yeah, that was really interesting, fascinating.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Also when it goes to back to dental health. If
your doctors or whatever, they fight a problem with your heart,
you may have to have an operation or an operation
on something else. If you have iss use in your mouth,
they won't do it until those issues are cleaned up.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, because they're really scared of bacterial infections traveling to
the heart and it really could cause a lot of problems.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Right, get your teeth check.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
That's your teeth. It's all coat.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's the first thing my doctor looks at. She immediately
goes from my mouth and.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
It's it's really annoying to me because the teeth are
considered the first part of your digestive system. But then
it's not typically covered by insurance, so a lot of
people don't have thousands of dollars of cash to just
go get their teeth fixed all the time. And you
just think, like, why isn't your teeth counted as equally
as as your stomach or your esophagus.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You know, you're sure.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
If it is your eyes too, same exact thing, right,
right exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
They don't cover much either.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
They cover like a dental cleaning every year or every
six months, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Everything else is.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Up to you.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, so sometimes you gotta you're going to pay out
of pocket. Yeah, And I know that's crazy, but it's
probably worth it for your health and what could happen
down the line. Look, it's it's it's it's fascinating to
have you guys in here, Nicole and Jim. Of course
Maria is here as well. The podcast is Mother Knows
Death with Nicole and Jemmy. Check it out. It's of
course on your iHeartRadio app and uh and wherever you
(16:09):
get your podcast. But thank you for coming in, Ding
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