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On today’s episode of MKD, we kick things off discussing a man who had dice stuck up his nose for 20 years. 

In celebrity news and freak accidents, we get into Matt Rife's delayed puberty, a grandma who may have fallen in a sinkhole, and a daycare closed down after severing a child's toes. 

Moving over to true crime, we update about the drunk driver who killed a bride on her wedding night, a woman who suffocated her boyfriend in a suitcase, and a woman sentenced after eating her cat. 

Finally, in medical and other death news, we talk about how a stranger's comment saved a baby's life, a mother who put her child on weight loss drugs, and another case of ashes closing down a Disney ride. 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with
the story of the day. All right. In China, this
guy in his early twenties was regularly experiencing a runny nose, stuffiness,
constant sneezing. I feel like I live my life like this,
so I have a lot of sympathy. Literally, was going
to say that this is the story of every single
one of my kids, and nearly every single time we record,

(00:42):
at some point my nose starts running. I don't know
what that's about, because I'll be fine all day long
and then we'll be mid story and I'm like, we
have to stop because I have to like rub it down.
It's probably because you're laughing so hard and you're crying,
and then it's just inducing the nasal secretione. I just
can't help it. Like just talking sometimes I just get

(01:03):
teary talking. It's just I don't know what's going on.
I'm sure somebody will have a diagnosis for me. Didn't
he diagnose me with something on Monday? Oh? Schrogans me. Yeah,
all right, you're getting off top. All right, I'll do
So this guy for his whole life basically was having
issues with his nose, so he initially sought out Chinese medicine,

(01:24):
but when that didn't work, the doctor's determined that he
was gonna need surgery. So he goes in for surgery,
and you guys will just not believe what they found. Yeah, so,
uh so an e nt doctor an ear nose, and
throw doctor stuck a scope up inside of his nose,
and they found a die, like a like a matching
part two A dice that's right his nose. Yeah, that

(01:46):
that apparently has been there since he was about three
or four years old. How did somebody live twenty years
and not realize they have dice of their nose? I
guess die. Sorry, I know that's like the correct way
to say. It's just so confusing. It is confusing because
if you're just like, oh, they found a die, everybody's
just gonna be like, wait, what okay, Oh it's dice, Okay,
but it's one. So yeah. I mean, there's lots of

(02:09):
stories in the gross room about this, for sure, of
little kids sticking things up their nose and just forgetting
about it. And usually one of the signs is that
they have bad breaths, which is really interesting, and there
was one of the members of the grossroom was saying
that when they were a little kid, their breath was
so bad. Finally the dad took them to the hospital

(02:32):
and sure enough, they found this sponge up the kid's
nose that was covered in mucus and all this stuff
and just you know, not really remembering sticking it up
their nose or anything like that. So it's really it's
just kids do that. Kids stick shit in their ears too.
We've talked about cases of that on here and in
the gross room as well, right a lot. I mean,

(02:53):
didn't we just have that story about them saying that
nerds gummy clusters were really common. Fun Yeah, yeah, so
that you know, they took it out and it was
the worst part of it, I think is when they
said that the die was actually eroded from being up
there for so long. And you know, he's fine now
and all of the symptoms went away after that, which

(03:15):
is kind of amazing. And it's funny because after I
read that story, I was doing Lilian's hair the other
day and she was doing her sucking up snot thing,
and I was just I told her about the story
and I was like, I wonder if you stuck anything
up your nose when you were a little kid. Yeah,
because I guess a lot of people are questioning, like,
how did the trials dick because it's not like it's
super I mean, it's two centimeters, right, they said it

(03:38):
was the size that's not that small. It's not like
the size of it, yeah, for a little kid's nose especially,
But so someone I posted this in the gross room
the other day, and someone posted a comment that they
had a friend or a neighborhood kid growing up that
they called the Kamakazi kid because he was getting into
so much trouble and just doing crazy stuff all the time.

(03:58):
And someone had dared him to swallow a coat hanger
and the kid put it in with the hook d
first into his mouth and it poked through his throat.
And I'm just like, oh my god, I can't believe
children are outrageous the shit that they do. It's so scary. Yeah,
it really is. And you're like, where is the parent
monitoring this child who's sticking a whole coat hanger in

(04:21):
their mouth? I know, could you just imagine? But I
feel like that's something like uncle Louie would have probably
did when he was a kid because he was so crazy.
You were just like, oh my god, like, what's he
going to do next? Oh my god, don't even get
me started on these stories with Louie. He is ridiculous.
All right, Celebrity News. All right, let's talk about Matt

(04:41):
Rife's puberty. So Matt Rife is a comedian. I love him,
by the way. I think he's hilarious. That's a controversial take. Now,
he was tried. They tried to cancel him earlier this year,
so what so he was making jokes about, you know,
controversial topics such as domestic violence or trans people, and
the it really was not received well. But you know,

(05:02):
like Shane Gillis, people try to cancel them and they
refuse to be canceled, so therefore they are not canceled. Yeah.
I mean sometimes I hear some of the shit that
he says to people and I'm like, oh my god.
Like I was listening to this one of him just
talking about someone that had cancer that it was like
some woman that was there with her mom, I think

(05:23):
that had cancer, and he was just saying things like, oh, well,
you know, you're gonna die soon, like just stuff like that.
I was like, whoa, but his delivery is just so
so good that it doesn't make you I don't know,
Like I thought that it brought the room together and
it kind of made the people laugh, and it seems
like everyone is having a good time. So I like,

(05:45):
who was Was it the people that he was doing
the jokes too, or just random people that hurd it
that got offended. I think in like in most of
these cases, it's people that have nothing to do with
that that are taking offense when they're not even involved.
I think his perspective is very refreshing because I think
we're living in this environment where everybody is speaking so
safely and scared to offend anybody. And let me tell you,

(06:07):
the comedy scene is not enjoyable anymore. To a couple
of shows in the last two years where I was like,
I cannot believe I spent money on this and I
did not laugh one time. And the ones that I'm
laughing my ass off at are the ones where they're
saying things you can't believe people said out loud. Yeah,
And I mean, that's that's how it used to be
back in the day. That you were just like, oh

(06:30):
my god, these people are outrageous saying this shit. But
that's I mean, I guess you just have to have
a sense of humor, and so many people don't have
that anymore. All right, but why are we talking about
him on this show? All right? So he's around my age,
and you know he's I personally am not attracted to him,
but you could consider him a good looking guy, right,
And he has this really like chiseled jaw line, and

(06:53):
everybody thinks, suddenly, because he just started looking ultra masculine
in the last couple of years, that he must have
had a bunch of work done to his face. But
he's saying that puberty just hit him late. So there.
I guess there's like a bunch of you ever see
these videos that show some kind of person that either
does esthetic injections or is a plastic surgeon or something,

(07:15):
and their face is in front of a famous person
kind of pointing to every single part of their face
telling you what plastic surgery procedures they had. Like the
latest one that's been rotating is Lindsay Lohan. Like everybody's
just like, okay, so she had this done and she
had this done and she had this done, which I
find them quite interesting, to be honest, But I haven't

(07:37):
seen the one with him, but i'll tell you what
I think personally, the late puberty thing is a possibility
at thirty years old. That's kind of like a stretch.
You can have delayed puberty. Though, like sometimes there's kids
that don't go through puberty. So when they're seventeen and

(07:58):
they still haven't gone through, but then maybe you should
go to the doctor and find out, okay, well what's happening.
And in those cases, they'll give the kids testosterone, which
will usually induce puberty.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
My theory is because I saw a lot of pictures
of him weightlifting stuff, I think that he takes testosterone
to grow muscle masks, and that is what's causing these
more masculine features to appear on his face. So technically
he's not getting plastic surgery. It could be a combination
of fillers and botox and testosterone, which aren't plastic surgery. Technically, well,

(08:37):
I could see a world in which that he really
doesn't have any injections or anything. Because have you ever
seen a picture of like a hockey player or a
baseball player when they're twenty three compared to when they're
twenty nine. It's like a boy with acne versus like
a macho hot man. Right, Like they're just evolution. You know,
people are aging, They get better looking as they age.

(08:59):
I can very easily see how this happens. I was
thinking that the other day because I saw Sylvester Stallone
on TV and he has all this work done, and
I was just like, he was so handsome in my opinion,
when he was younger. I just kind of don't think
it's attractive when men get their eyelids done. And I
don't know, I just think it's weird because guys can

(09:21):
get old, and I think they look better with age.
Of course, you know, so I don't think. I don't think.
I didn't really realize that he was so young that
he was your age. If you take testosterone, it could
it could It could make the face look more masculine.
It causes a distribution, a different distribution of fat, and
it can make the the face look more angular. So

(09:44):
I think that it's completely possible that he did things
I you know, we were talking about this. We didn't
talk about this on the show, but you and I
were just talking about this. How a couple of weeks ago,
this article came out about Paris Hillton saying that she
never had botox or filler whatever she was saying in
that article, or plastic surgery, and we were we were

(10:05):
saying that, you know, she could have There's there's other
alternatives to botox called one of them is called like
disport or something. I forget what it's called. But anyway,
like technically she didn't she didn't have botox. Maybe she
gets the other one. But do you know what I mean,
like that's do you think it's possible? These people are
also just saying this in jest, and then you know

(10:26):
people are like writing headlines about it, just taking it
out of context. What do you mean, like they're joke,
They're just saying it as a joke or like yeah,
I never had botox. And then it's like Paras Hilton
says she never had botox, She's talked about getting botox
on her show. It's ridiculous to even write a headline
about it. I don't know, I just I was just thinking,
like I I mean, there was a while that Kylie

(10:49):
Jenner was saying she didn't have any worked on her lips.
That was just like, but like, none of these people
want to because I guess the most the mecca of
a human's best of him would be if you naturally
look a certain way, right, So when you're just like, yeah,
I only look like this because I paid for all
these procedures, then then it makes you. People might think

(11:09):
it makes you less attractive or something. I don't know. Yeah,
and you don't have you don't owe it to anybody
to say what you did. But don't be sitting there
acting like you just look like that naturally. And that's
just not right. And that's how I felt with Matt Rife.
Like I was looking at pictures of him before, like
they were showing one from two thousand and one maybe,
or you know, it could have been eleven seven. I

(11:33):
don't know, I get confused or that like whole time
period was a blur, but yeah, it just it looked
like it was years ago and he looks different. But
that that just happens as you get older, Like there's
you have surges of hormones at different times. But like, seriously,
I think it could be if he's taken some kind
of supplement for weightlifting and stuff. Yeah, I mean, I

(11:55):
guess we just don't know. I just feel like I
could see this easily happening, but people just always want
to assume everybody. I know that I know that he's
pissed though that people are making video like plastic surgeons
are just like HiT's job this and that. Like it's
kind of funny because if he really didn't have any
of that stuff done, it's just kind of like, okay, okay,

(12:16):
like you're you're making sit up and on top of that, like,
how are we gonna trust you if that's you know
what I mean, Well, all press is good press, so yeah,
he should like that. All talk, okay. Freak accidents In Pennsylvania,
the sixty four year old grandmother took her five year
old granddaughter on a drive to look for their lost cat.
So she had parked outside of this restaurant and left

(12:38):
the kid in the car to go look around the restaurant.
I would not advise that ever, You don't leave children
alone like that, But basically, by one o'clock in the morning,
nobody heard from them, and they were freaking out family members,
so they reported them missing. The granddaughter was found safe eventually,
but the grandmother is nowhere to be found. And when
police were walking around the area where he was, they

(13:00):
found this massive sinkhole by the restaurant, and they believe
that she may have fell in there. Oh man, that's
so scary thinking about this. I guess it's an old
mining town and there's just these sinkholes underneath of the ground.
So they're saying that it is possible if she fell
in there, that the temperature is fifty five degrees that
she would and there's plenty of oxygen underneath of the

(13:22):
ground there that she would be able to in theory,
be alive underneath because right now, I mean where we live,
it's really cold out in Jersey and Pennsylvania especially, Like
where is this in Pennsylvania? Exactly, it's about five hours
where we live. I don't know exactly where it is, Yeah,

(13:43):
but it's so it's even colder. I'm trying to say, like,
so it just being outside in the temperature overnight would
be dangerous. But if she did fall in here and
it's safe, but I don't I don't even know how
far the fall is, like if she could have even
survived that kind of a fall. And they're not just
making like some random assumption they found a shoe. I

(14:04):
think they said thirty feet below the surface, so I
think they're thinking it's her shoe. The cat's also not
been found. The sink hole wasn't reported before she went
missing from restaurant workers or they said local hunters were
in that area as well and didn't see it. I mean,
it's pretty huge, you would notice a giant hole in
This is such a crazy situation, like think about one

(14:25):
of your think about like my mom watching one of
the kids like that. Just it's I mean, I don't
I don't know why it took till one o'clock in
the morning for someone to call the police to see
like where they were. But maybe it was a situation
that the parents were out and the grandmam was watching
the kid and then they were like, wait, we haven't
heard from her, like what's going on? And luckily the

(14:45):
kid was found safe in the car. Because just like
I was saying, it's so cold outside, that could have
been a serious issue, you know what I mean, Well,
it could have a serious issue. What if the kid
got out to look for the grandmom and then she
fell in the sink hole. Well, yeah, I guess, and
the whole thing is just a theory because they're not
one hundred percent sure that she's in there. But I

(15:07):
was telling Gabe about it this morning because it's interesting
from a rescue perspective how they would approach that, you
know what I mean, So that so the rescuers aren't
in danger of falling as well. Yeah, and I didn't
know this was a thing with mining towns that they
could be affected like this. Oh yeah, I've heard that before.
Well something to think about if you live in a

(15:28):
town with a history. Yes, so what are you going
to do? So hopefully next week when we're back on,
we will be able to give an update on the story. Yeah,
all right. Back in October, this daycare worker in Utah
was mowing the lawn of the daycare place and a
bunch of young children were hanging out in the yard.
And then that's when the worker accidentally mowed over one

(15:50):
of the children's toes, severing some of them. Oh my god,
what like there was fourteen children under the age of six,
and you decided it was a good idea to mow
the lawn. And how did anybody get so close to
a kid that they caught the kid's toes off well,
regardless of them getting close or not. They shouldn't have
been outside because when you're mowing the lawn sometimes there's

(16:11):
like debris flying in the age, and they placed me children.
They shouldn't even be breathing in all of that dust,
you know what I mean, because they could just induce
a lot of allergies and stuff like that. But it's like,
what is happening at that place? A follow up inspection
revealed even more safety violations, So they're providing insufficient supervision
by not having enough staff clearly, I mean, I don't

(16:34):
know why you're cutting the grass during the day if
you don't have enough staff members to watch the children
inside where they could safely be. And then also they
said they were placing infants to sleep in unsafe equipment
such as baby bouncers, and they were failing to notify
parents and writing about incidents with the children, so they
were ordered to close down. Could you imagine sending your

(16:54):
kid to daycare and getting a call that they were
in the hospital because somebody amputated their toe with a lawnmower. No,
I mean, just like it's like something you can't even
wrap your brain around. No, okay, true crime, all right.
So before Mothers, Before Mother Knows Death, we had covered
this case about this drunk driver who plowed into a
golf cart carrying a couple who were just married hours

(17:16):
before that. So she killed the bride who was still
in her wedding dress. Disgusting thought. And then the groom
had suffered brain injury and severe broken bones. There was
two other guests on the golf cart as well that
had injuries. So the drunk driver had been driving sixty
five miles an hour in a twenty five mile per
hour zone. Her blood alcohol content was zero point two

(17:37):
six 's one, which is more than three times the
legal limit. And now she has made a plea deal
and she's gonna be going to jail. At first, she
was acting compl I can't. I actually am surprised that
she had pled guilty because she was acting like such
a spoiled brat. To be honest with you, when this happened.
Oh yeah, First she wouldn't take a field sobriety test.

(17:58):
They took her back to the police station. She still
would and took one take one, and then they had
to get a warrant to finally take her blood. So
by the time they did all that, her blood alcohol
was lowering by the second as by the time she
got caught until she went to the police station. So
them saying that her blood alcohol level was three times

(18:20):
over the legal limit, it actually was much higher than that.
That's yeah, that's what it was when they finally were
able to test it after all of that time. So
she was like piss ass drunk driving. Yeah, and she
said she only had two drinks, which I'm sorry, but like, too,
what did you have two drinks with four shots in
each of them? What were you even talking about? Yeah,

(18:41):
that she had like two cups of vodka, like twelve
ounces vaga. I don't know. But what's interesting to me
is that the family they sued her, obviously, but they
were also sewing the bar who served her, which they
should because that's always a thing. But they were all
he's so suing Enterprise Car company, which I thought was

(19:03):
interesting because it was a rental car that she was driving.
But but like, how is that their problem? I don't know.
I think that's kind of I really, I'm really curious
how they could possibly blame Enterprise for that, because it's
not like Enterprise is forced to have breathalyzers attached to
the car before you get in. The only thing I

(19:24):
could think is that she had rented it shortly before that,
and there was proof that she was drunk at the
time when she rented it somebody, or she had a
previous DUI or suspended license or something. Yeah, maybe that
would have prevented her from renting it, and they let
her rent it anyway. So I rent cars sometimes when

(19:45):
we go on trips, and they do ask for your
driver's license. But did they actually check for that kind
of stuff. I feel like they're just doing that to
keep it on file so you don't steal the car.
I don't know. And she said she was going home,
even though she was in the opposite direction of her home.
But why would she have a rental car unless she
didn't have her own car or I mean, there's a

(20:07):
possibility her car could have been like getting workedne on
it or something. But I'm thinking this is probably why
Enterprise is liable, because maybe she had a suspended license
or she wasn't allowed to be driving, and they allowed
her to rent the car anyway, Yeah, because otherwise how
would you possibly go after them? I don't know. I mean,
I think like, listen, we were just talking about the

(20:28):
lawsuit that just came forward about the whole Barbie doll
Wicked situation, which we forgot to look into more. Which
if anyone's interested, I have two of the Greya decided
to buy. Well tell the story because they might not
know it. I was at Walmart one day and I
have two little sisters that are really young, They're under

(20:52):
the age of seven, and I was like, oh, I'll
just grab these right now while I figure out what
to get them for Christmas, because maybe I'll give these dolls.
So then when I talked to my dad, he was
just like, no, like we figured out that wasn't gonna
work as the gift. So I was like, all right, well,
I'll just take them back in a couple of days.
And then the next day on TMC it broke that
they had misprinted a porn website on the back of

(21:14):
the Wicked Barbie Doell box, and I was like, well,
I never get lucky with stuff like this, so I
went and checked and sure enough it was there. So
now I have these collector edition barbies. I just think
it's hilarious because this stuff never happens to me, so
what happened was that the Barbie doll box has had
QR codes on the back, and I guess it was

(21:35):
printed to say Wicked dot com, which is a porn
site and not wickedmovie dot com. By the way, my
husband knew all about what well, No, Gabe did too,
because he was telling me that, like, I guess one
of the main girls on there was like the one
with Sandra Bullock's husband and all that drama. Yeah, oh,

(21:57):
I don't know, Gabe, O se, I don't know, because
we were talking about Sandrabau whatever anyway, So yeah, so
I don't know if you scan the QR code if
it brings you to a porn site, because honestly, like
think about that. If you have little kids, you might
be like, oh, here, use my phone and scan this

(22:19):
and see what comes up, thinking it's gonna be like
Wicked coloring pages and shit, and then you see like,
you know, some big titty lady like on the front
page or something, you know. So I mean, I think
like a parent could definitely be upset about that, and
the child shouldn't see that for sure. But I was
under the assumption that it just said Wicked dot com.

(22:41):
But like the QR code brought you to the wrong
the right place. Ugh, if you need to get the box,
and did you actually check it? Hold on, I have it,
like right here, go get the box. What are the
chances that you have that like underneath Jesus Christ. Well,
I'm in my I'm in my office and I keep

(23:02):
I'm keeping the Christmas presents. Right scan the code and
there is not a QR code. Then how do you
know that you have the right thing? Because look, it
says Wicked Wait where is it? It says Wicked dot
com right now? But there wasn't a QR code. No,
this is what I'm telling you. Somebody had to manually

(23:24):
type it in. All right, Well, I mean so anyway,
the whole bottom line is the box is cracked. How
did this? Because it's under your chair? I don't know.
Oh no, it's not valuable anymore. Oh darn, I guess
you're gonna have to play with it for yourself anyway,
Like it's literally under the roly things of your chair.

(23:45):
Right now you're wondering how it's great. It's not. I
had it in a bag. I wonder if it was
like that when I bought it. Anyway, So some parents
are sewing mettal is it, Mattel? I guess this because
you know their child was scarred and all this stuff.
So we were talking about reasons to bring up frivolous

(24:07):
lawsuits and stuff, and maybe you know, obviously the lawsuits
associated with this case aren't frivolous because the most terrible
thing happened ever, which is a woman dying on her
wedding night. Right, But the Enterprise one I still want
to look into. Well, if you don't care about your
kids seeing Wicked dot Com, I have them, So this
suit me give you a fair price? Yeah, I I don't.

(24:32):
That's the only reason I can see Enterprise being liable
in any capacity is if she wasn't allowed to drive
and they still rented her the car. I don't really
know their process. What's kind of bothering me about this
is that it says she had sentenced to twenty five
years for felony DUI resulting in death, fifteen years for
two counts of DUI causing great bodily injury or death,

(24:54):
and ten years of reckless homicide. But she can have
she could do those sentences concur I don't understand if
that was part of her plea deal where they were like,
you can do them all at the same time. I
in my opinion, she took a life of a human
and I think she's getting off a little easy. Well,

(25:15):
so if she serves twenty five years, I don't know.
I personally think that it's fine because she didn't intention
I mean, she drank, drank and drive, and she has
addiction problems and all that stuff, but she didn't like,
she didn't intentionally plan out to kill that specific person
that day, And I feel like that those always get

(25:36):
more of a maximum sentence. I mean, she's basically getting
like a negligent homicide thing. Yeah, you know what I mean,
which anytime you get into the car and obviously drive
and kill somebody, you're taking on that responsibility that that's
gonna happen. But I mean, I'm glad that she got

(25:57):
twenty five years because I feel like in some case,
like people just don't really even get anywhere near that.
So oh totally. I mean, if she if she has
to serve, I hope it's just not like, oh, twenty
five years, but like she's realigible for parole in seven
years or whatever, then I'm not okay with that. But
I think my main problem with it obviously that she

(26:18):
murdered somebody, but also that she just was being such
an asshole when she got arrested. It was reminding me
of the guy we're just talking about this yesterday, the
guy that got arrested for killing Johnny Gudroau, Like he's
being such a dick, like, oh, you have to keep
me over the weekend, Like you killed two people. She
was kind of acting the same exact way, and you're

(26:38):
just like, do you not understand, like what just happened? Yeah,
that guy is such a douchebag. Yeah, they both are,
and like, oh, poor you. You took two you're the
lady took one human life and the guy took two
human lives. And I don't know about the condition of
the groom right now. They said he had some brain
injuries from this. Yeah, I think that he's gonna be fine.

(27:01):
But then I don't you remember we talked about it
like last year, maybe even on this show, about that
there was like some beef between him and the girl,
the bride's mom, and the money and all that. There
was something going on with all that, So which is
sad to even think that there's some kind of argument,
because think about it, like she was when it comes

(27:24):
to life insurance and this and that. It was like
she was married for five minutes, and I thought that
was a different case. No, I don't think so. I
think it was like there was something about that because
of whatever I had to do with paying bills or this,
that or the other. I don't know, but I mean, honestly,
like the guy might heal usually, and when you get

(27:44):
a traumatic brain injury, that could just cause you problems
the rest of your life. Even if they're minimal, it
could cause you problems the rest of your life. But
just like, how do you even heal from that and
remarry and have children? I mean that that might not
even ever happen for him because it's such a traumatic event. Luckily,
he doesn't remember most of it, honestly, but he says

(28:05):
that he remembers to his bride, his new bride, saying
that she wished that night never ended, which is so sad.
That's horrible, I know. All right, let's move on to
this next one. Back in twenty twenty, this woman said
her and her boyfriend were drinking and decided to play
hide and seek. They were forty by the way, and
he got that. I thought that that was so bizarre too. Yeah,

(28:27):
so you know, like the kids, every single time we
have a family get together, the kids are like play
sick with us, and we're like, uh, like it's once
you get like over thirty years old, you're just like
twenty years old. I would even say, you're just like
I don't feel like playing hide and seek. Yeah, and
the situation children are involved. This was two forty year old.
So he got in a suitcase because that's obviously the

(28:50):
best place to hide, and she said eventually she went
to bed because she thought he'd be able to get
out of it on her own, and then when she
woke up, she found them unresponsive. So then obviously when
the police are looking into this, it's suspicious on all ends.
And then they find videos on her phone of her
taking videos of him screaming from the suitcase that he
can't breathe. Oh way one, like, what what do people

(29:12):
do on the weekends? Really, like it's just so outrageous.
She dude, I don't know. So this guy's a little
he was like a little guy. He was how much
did he weigh? A hundred? One hundred and three pounds
or something. Yeah. So, but when I first read this story,
I was just kind of like, how do you even
convince a grown up to get into a suitcase? Right?
And then think like how could a person a grown

(29:35):
up even fit into a suitcase? But if he was
one hundred pounds, I mean, like, Lily, it's a hundred
almost one hundred pounds, Like, I guess he could fit
in a suitcase if he was like a little guy
and she I guess they were. I mean, I don't know,
is that like that's a her side of the story.
They were playing hide and seek or that was like
something they saw in the video that they determined that
was true. I don't know what happened. Apparently she also

(29:56):
hit him with a baseball bat, so what was happening?
She claims he was abusing her. She was said in
the videos like this is how it feels when you
cheat on me. This is how it feels when you're
hitting me. Oh wow, So obviously she did it intentionally.
Then they offered her a plea deal, which she denied,
and now after a ten day trial, she's been convicted

(30:17):
of second degree murder and sentenced to life. Yeah, she
definitely should take in the plea deal, I guess. So,
I guess I would say that there's two different ways
that this guy could have died from, either positional asphyxia,
which is when your body is crunched in such a
position that maybe you can't expand your chest anymore, but
also just the lack of oxygen. Being zippered or however

(30:40):
into a suitcase. I mean, he's suffocated to death basically.
I mean, I feel like she had to zip him
in it fully if he couldn't get out, because how
are you going to fully close it? Me inside? I
imagine being a cop watching that video. I just would
that would just be such torture to hear that video.
I can't ninety nine percent of the stuff police officers

(31:03):
see or I have to deal with that we don't
even know about, like like this next sence, this next case. Yeah,
all right. So over the summer in Ohio, police got
a call about a woman bashing a cat's head in
and that shockingly, she was eating it. And when they
got to the scene, they not only found blood all
over her feet, but they found fur on her mouth.
So this case. I read about this case right back

(31:26):
when it happened, and I was like, oh my god,
this is such a good story for the podcast. And
then that same day, all that shit started happening on
the news right before the election about like people eating
cats and all this stuff, and then I was like,
you know what, that story might not be true, like
let me just not talk about it. And I haven't
heard anything about it until right now. This is on BBC,

(31:50):
so it's a reputable news source that's saying that this happened.
So I'm like, Okay, I definitely want to talk about
this now because it's so outrageous. But yeah, I don't know.
I don't know why she was doing this. I mean,
she has to have some sort of mental illness to
be eating a cat alive, Yeah, I would say so.
And she only got a year in jail for animal abuse.

(32:14):
That worries me a little bit, like you should probably
be going into some facility for treatment if you're eating
a live animal. Well, I guess it's just the laws.
That's that was the maximum punishment under the law. I guess.
I don't. I don't know, Like, yeah, clearly something had
to be going on, like is there a history of
drugs or alcohol use or anything like that. There's something

(32:34):
going on here. So regardless of her doing this, right,
people eat cats in the world. It's I mean sometimes
you go back and forth and you're just like, okay, well,
if you eat a cat, what's the difference if you
eat a caw, Like, it's it's an animal. It's an animal, right.
The biggest problem here is that she was torturing a
live animal. I mean, that's the biggest thing right there.

(32:58):
And then also you can in America at least they
don't look at it as it's an animal. It's an animal.
Like it's against the law to eat cats and dogs
in America. The trade of the meat and everything, it's
against the law. Like as of not too far ago,
like twenty eighteen, they were like, this is not legal anymore.
But prior to that it said that forty four states

(33:20):
it was legal to consume cat. Well, because when you
put it that way, what is the difference, Well, because
people have deemed this one's domestic, this one's not. But yeah,
the pigs can be domestic cat. And I don't know,
but I guess because they didn't want people to be
doing stuff like this. I don't know, and so whatever,

(33:42):
like some countries eat cat. Don't have a problem with it.
This country has a problem with it. Whatever. Her eating
the raw cat, like eating any raw meat, is just bad.
Cats can carry parasites, especially if it's like a random
one that's living outside that's not being fed a diet
that's monitored, and they could get toxoplasmosis, and you could
eat the ingested me and get the parasite yourself. Like

(34:06):
I don't know, just it's just not a good idea.
Wouldn't be me. That's all I have to say. This
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I can't believe this story is not about you, because

(35:30):
this is something you do all the time. So this
lady's on vacation at Sea World with her six week
old baby and this man approaches her and says that
he's concerned because the baby's complexion's really yellow. So obviously,
at first she's thinking this is weird because the complete
stranger's coming up to her and commenting on her baby's coloring.
But when she got the kid checked out, he actually

(35:50):
did have a problem. So if I saw the same
same situation, I'm not I don't know if I would
say anything because I would definitely pick up on this.
Let me tell you a story about this. So my
grandmam had gallbladder cancer. And we were showing up one day,
me and mom mom to go I don't know, we

(36:11):
were going to bring her somewhere. I think we were
going to the mall actually to go shopping or something.
And we show up and she was she had white hair,
and she was very pale like me. And we show
up to her house and she was yellow as hell.
Like it just was shocking to see her. So I
didn't say anything, and I went right in the bathroom

(36:32):
and I texted Andrea and I was just like, dude,
my grandmom has john this so bad right now, And
like I don't know if my mom notices it, but
I don't want to freak them out, but like she
has to go to the hospital right now. Something's really bad.
Blah blah blah. But then when I got out of
the bathroom, my mom met me in the kitchen and
was like, why she's so yellow? And I was like, Okay,

(36:52):
thank god, I don't have to say anything. But if
I saw somebody that had a little baby in a
stroller that looked like that, I would probably assumed that
they noticed it, because how would you not notice it.
It just to me, it's it's not something that like
my special trained eye would notice. If you see a
person that has jaundice, you notice it. Their eyes are

(37:12):
yellow and their skin is yellow. It's just it's it's noticeable,
and so I think it's very cool that this guy.
I don't know if they were just standing in line
and it came up or whatever happened, but it's awesome
that he said something because she didn't see it. So
the baby was diagnosed with a condition called Ala Jilly's syndrome.

(37:35):
Maybe that's how it's pronounced. I'm not sure because I've
never heard of it. Apparently it's super rare. It's a
genetic condition, so you could either inherit it from one
of your parents, or it could be a spontaneous gene
mutation too. And the mom has how many other kids,
did she had four or five other kids, They had
a bunch of They have a bunch of kids, and
none of the kids had any of these things, so

(37:55):
it's possible that it just was a spontaneous mutation. But
the this billiary atresia is part of that syndrome. So
hopefully they'll be able to get the child treatment because
usually if the kids don't get treatment, that have this,
they can die within a couple months of life. Like
it's they don't really live too long after if they
don't get any treatment. I believe we have a case

(38:18):
of this in in my book. Actually, yeah, that there
was a liver too, and that's sometimes they do a
liver transplant if it's that severe. So hopefully this this
baby will get the treatment that it needs. But that
was really cool that this guy, he said he was
a firefighter in EMT, so he knew how to recognize
medical conditions, said something, because otherwise she might not have

(38:42):
ever got anything found that, you know, found out about
its nuts. Right. There was a housewife of New York
over ten years ago and her son had how do
you pronounce a billiary atresia and he had to get
a liver transplant when he was like six or something.
Really little, Yeah, which was sad, and I mean I
I recently looked it up because I was watching it

(39:03):
and he seems to be doing good. I mean he's
a teenager now. But it was a lot, Like she
had to go through a lot, and there was constant
stress because he was sick. And I can't imagine going
through that as a parent. Yeah, I can't either. It's
it's but it's it's kind of cool. It's like this,
like see something say something. I know you always yell
at me if I say something to people, but you
hear this from time to time. There was there was

(39:25):
some within the past couple of years there was someone
that was I don't know if she was on the
news or something, and someone had said to her like,
why is your throat so big? And then here she
went and got it tested and she ended up having
thyroid cancer because her she her thyroid was so prominent
in her neck that someone was just like, your your
thyroid looked really big in your neck. You know, Like

(39:46):
it's crazy how people notice that kind of stuff. Didn't
this happen at a baseball game or something too, where
a fan pointed at a coach or something was like
you should get that bump checked out on your neck.
And then it ended up being some crazy thing. Yeah,
that actually happened too to a friend of ours, now
that I'm thinking about it. He one of he had

(40:08):
saw one of his neighbors, a younger girl, and he said, like,
what's wrong with your face? She was having just like
weird twitching and stuff. It's it's really not funny. So no,
I'm only laughing because that that sentence, what's wrong with
your face? Like he well, that's you know what's actually sad,
because he told me when he asked when he said
it to that person, like he was joking kind of,

(40:29):
he was just like, why is your face doing that?
Weird thing, like just kind of making fun of her,
like a like a neighborhood you know, friendly laugh thing.
And it ended and then they never noticed, and then
when they went to the doctor she ended up having
brain cancer. Oh my god, Like it was yeah, it
was totally nuts, like but he was the one that
like saw like saw something was off, but didn't he

(40:50):
didn't really even think anything of it by just saying it,
like you know what I mean, Yeah, it's so so
it's just it's it's kind of a cool thing to
say something if you see something. And I do it
to people all the time, and sometimes I say stuff
to people. I don't want to freak them out, but
I'm just kind of like, maybe you get that checked out,
and I think it's cool that He also said to
the mom, like it's not it's not that big of

(41:11):
a deal, but just make sure you get it checked out,
when meanwhile, he was like, holy shit, this kid needs
to get checked out right now, because they could cause
brain damage if you have too much billy reuben it
could you know what I mean? So you want to
get it checked out and treated. Well, don't babies at
that aide go to the doctor every couple weeks, she said, noticed,
she said, because especially because this kid didn't just have

(41:34):
billy areatrisia, but this kid had this syndrome which has
a bunch of other things that go along with it.
She said that they noticed that a couple things were
off about the kid, but the doctor hadn't picked up
on any of it at that point, and who knows,
like maybe they were on vacation and they missed appointments
and the kid might not have been jaundice from the

(41:54):
time that it was born, obviously, because I really doubt
that they would let the kid leave the hospital and
then go to all those appointments afterwards and not see it.
So yeah, yeah, just scaried but cool. And the worst
part is that she doesn't know who this guy is,
so she's kind of doing this public like, Hey, remember
you came up to me in SeaWorld and said that

(42:15):
I just want to thank you for saving my baby's life.
So she doesn't even know who it is, but since
we have such a strong connection with the firefighters in
this world, hopefully somebody I'll hear this and be able
to connect with her. Hopefully. All right, So this mom
in New York had weight losses she was growing up
and noticed that her daughter was having the same issue.
She was watching everything, she ate, she was having her

(42:37):
take walks. It seems like she sent her to a
fat camp at some point too. So nothing was working
for the kid, and eventually she was worried about her
kid having the same weight loss issues as she was having,
so she decided to put this twelve year old on ozembic.
So there is So the mom had gotten a compound

(42:58):
drug online, and we talked that a couple episodes back
about these weight loss semiglue tide compounds that are being
sold online and that aren't really regulated to make sure
that they have like the perfect amount of the drug
inside of them because they're just being made basically, and
there's all of these websites that you can go on

(43:19):
and get these kinds of drugs. So it's not like
she was going to her doctor and then getting this
thing and picking it up at like CBS or whatever.
She was getting it from one of these online things,
and that is the same exacting that she did for
her daughter. So apparently she did some online zoom call
thing with one of those services and then was able

(43:40):
to get that prescribed to her daughter too, which is
I guess it's fine because it is allowed to give
to kids that young according to the FDA. But that's
for like the brand names of it. And they are
saying that they're telling you not to get these ones
online because they're not sure about them now. And we

(44:00):
talked about that in the episode, like are they saying
that because they're on Safer? They saying that because it's
competition and they're not making money off of it. So
wait to clarify, is the child on the brand name
or on the compounded one the compound one? Okay, So
she's not on ozempic, She's just on some form of
a semaglue tie yeah, okay, okay, so and the mom
was on the zep bounds compound, which isn't even the

(44:25):
same as as the what go you or a zempic is.
So I don't know which one the kids on, But
she's on one of these these newer drugs for weight loss.
So one of the craziest things that I the statistic
wise that I found here was that children from the
ages of twelve to fifteen years old in twenty and
twenty it was only about eight thousand kids that were

(44:47):
on these kinds of drugs, and now in twenty and
twenty three, the latest statistic is that it's up to
sixty thousand kids that are on these drugs. So it's
increased six hundred percent since in a couple years, right,
And that could be attributed to a bunch of things,
like there's been a lot of just celebrities talking about

(45:08):
taking this drug and just it seems that it's more
easier to get these types of drugs. But in twenty
twenty three, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommended that children
and teens with obesity be evaluated early and treated aggressively
with surgery and or medication. So basically they're saying their
recommendations are like, as soon as you recognize this is

(45:31):
a problem, like nip it in the bud right away
before it becomes a serious issue, and we don't care
how you have to do it. Give the kid drugs,
give the kid surgery, like make sure that they're not
dealing with obesity. Well, I guess they're finding that obesity
is way more dangerous long term than a child taking
these drugs or getting the surgery. Well, I mean so

(45:51):
far because they don't really know the long term effects
of taking these drugs. But it is true that if
you grow up to be if you're obese as a child,
chance of you growing up to deal with obesity the
rest of your life is just it. It's almost guaranteed
to happen. And with obesity comes other things like diabetes
and high blood pressure and things like that that could
affect your health as well, and also your mental health

(46:14):
because these kids are more a chance of getting bullied
and having a mental distress, emotional problems and things like that. Yeah,
I don't know, Like listen, this is this is one
of the problems with that I'm just getting annoyed with
is because there was like this period of time a
couple of years ago that they were just like trying
to push this whole obesity thing onto everybody, saying that

(46:35):
it was healthy and the healthy at every size and
the whole lizo thing, and now she's like losing all
this weight could like she is on ozepic now, So
all of a sudden, it's just kind of like, oh
so it's not healthy then to be that size anymore.
I don't know. I'm glad it's going away, but I
just was kind of annoyed that we even had to
listen to that for a couple of years. But like,
obviously it's never been good, but you were putting that

(46:56):
in children's head on social media for years, that like
it's okay to be a and it's okay and it's healthy,
and it's this and that, and now all of a sudden,
you're like, no, it's it's not like that. Mixed messaging
isn't good. And they're they found that the number is
growing so much, like they were saying from twenty and
seventeen to twenty twenties, nineteen point seven percent of children

(47:19):
ages twelve to nineteen were considered obese, and now they're
saying that just from twenty and nineteen to twenty and
twenty it rose three percent and it's continuing to rise.
But you could see in that time period it was
like it was the whole COVID thing, the lockdown thing
that everybody on social media all day, and just like
that mixed messaging was was terrible for kids. Yeah, I

(47:41):
was gonna say I think that, you know, the body
positivity marketing started getting a little misunderstood because I think
the intended message was you should not be judging other
people for what they look like, which I agree with,
but I think it then started getting misconstrued as you know,
obese city is healthy, which it is not, like it

(48:02):
is scientifically not. That's what it went. That's exactly what happened.
Like it it had the best message ever, and then
all of a sudden, just like everything else in the world,
it just went off the deep end and you were
seeing like what was what was that major magazine like
Cosmo or Vogue?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
It just definitely was not Vogue, trust me, it was
Well it was why because they're more on like the
anorexic side of weight, But yes, but yeah it was Cosmo. Maybe,
just like it just was getting out of control and
you're like, okay, don't say healthy at any size, just
say like, listen, don't judge me for my body, like
it doesn't look like yours. Whatever. Don't judge people for

(48:42):
their body. Totally cool with that, but absolutely do not
put the word healthy over somebody that's three hundred pounds, Like,
I just don't want to see it. It's total bullshit.
Well it's just scientifically not correct, So opinion or not,
it's it's factually incorrect to say that. Yeah, and and listen,
I've had people fight with me about this all the time,
that they're three hundred pounds and their blood work is

(49:03):
perfect and stuff like, trust me, it's not healthy. You
open people up that weigh that much and it's like
all of their organs are covered in fat. And you
might be thirty years old and your blood work might
look okay, but your organs don't look okay, and it'll
eventually catch up with you and be bad. So I'm
my whole point is just like, regardless of that whole thing,

(49:26):
that is something that I think was putting a negative
messages to impressionable children. Right, So now we have a
problem that there's like lots and lots of kids that
are overweight, and I personally don't have a problem with
them doing this because if they try everything else and
it doesn't work, the only alternative is to not do

(49:48):
anything and just let them continue to gain weight and
have to deal with obesity and the problems that come
with it the rest of their life. So ye are you,
I mean, what do you think about it? Ray, Like,
like giving a kid this. I understand the need to
control the weight thing because I understand the long term
side effects of having obesity so young. I just have

(50:11):
a problem putting kids on really hardcore pharmaceuticals at such
a young age, especially ones that we don't know. But like,
but like, what's what's the alternative? That's how I look
at it, Like, what's this alternative they're saying that this
she was saying in this article. The specific child that
they were talking about was five foot one and one

(50:33):
hundred and sixty one pounds. Okay, that's that's terrible for
a twelve year old to be. Yeah, but think think
about the conversation we just had about singular, right, so
that you have this life changing medicine for a child
with asthma. I mean, I was on it when I
was a little kid. It helped me. I don't have
asthma nearly as bad as I did when I was
a little kid. So but then you think of the

(50:56):
psychological effects that could have on you. So like, what's
what's worth it? Right? I don't know. I have a
complicated feeling about both things because you're trying to treat
one thing, but you're potentially causing a whole of it
set of problem and that'll help that, that'll be But
it's just like, let's say this kid's on this drug
for ten years and then they realize, oh, zampa causes
cancer or whatever, right, Like it's just like, well, it

(51:17):
does it matter at that point though? Like the kid can't.
You can't go on living your life like that. It's
just if you're if you're one hundred and sixty one
pounds a five foot one as a little kid twelve
years old, probably didn't even go through puberty yet, which
just adds a ton more weight and everything else. With
the hormones induced and everything, she would have a she

(51:38):
would have a really rough life growing up it And
according to the mom, it seemed like it just kept
increasing whatever it was. And the mom had lost seventy
five pounds on these too, so the mom was obese
as well. So this is like I understand the mom
wanting to do it, and I understand what they're saying
of why they want to do it. I just right now,

(52:00):
I don't know. I just have complicated feelings about it
because I just think putting little kids on hardcore drugs
like that, it can't also possibly be good for them,
Like there's other there has to be other solutions. What
I'm getting. I just I think that a lot of
people and listen, like I do autopsies for a living.
I'm not any kind of scientist that studies weight loss

(52:21):
or anything. I'm just like a person that lives in
the world and observes things. I hear a lot of
people just saying like, Oh, have the kid run on
a treadmill and this and that, and it's just like,
I just don't. I don't think it's that easy. I
just think that there's some I think there's something behind it,
and like medically behind it that causes some children to

(52:42):
just some not even children, some people in general to
just be hungrier all the time, eat more all the time,
have a harder time losing weight, blah blah blah. Yes
there's people that are lazy, and yes there's people that
want to indulge all the time and don't hold back
and everything like that, But still I just still think
that there's that there's a little bit more to it.

(53:03):
So if you had a child that was diagnosed with
cancer as a little kid, or diabetes as a little kid,
or like a chronic and non infectious osteomilitist like my
kid has, you're you're gonna give them drugs to make
it go away, even though those drugs might cause I've
seen that with Lucia, like the drugs that she's been
on have caused a lot of problems with her. But

(53:26):
like at the same time, the other alternative is, well,
her leg's gonna stop growing, So like what yeah, and
you know what I mean, Like as staring, you have
to make it like you have to, you have to
look at all possible options. You should not just jump
into giving your kid a pharmaceutical. I understand why this
mom did it, because she exhausted all other resources and

(53:46):
and just like another thing to add is that because
an argument is which I think is a good argument,
is well, back in the sixties, this wasn't a problem.
And you know they're back in the sixties. We we
you know, we've had a light We've had generations now
of eating all process food and eating like a flood shit.
So like it's just we just live in different times.

(54:06):
And me and my brother talk about that often because
we're you know, especially me, I'm forty five, like I
grew up in the eighties and everything. And it's like
when when my brother comes over sometimes for lunch, I'll
say like, all right, well, what do you want me
to order for lunch? And there's like, seriously, like a
hundred options to pick just to get door dashed to
my house, right, And we always joke around, We're like,

(54:29):
do you remember when we were kids we ate out
a couple times a month, and it was just like
you either got Chinese up the street or the pizza
place up the street, Like that was your two go
out take out places. That's it. Like it just didn't
get any more expanded than that. And now it's just
like I could just go on my phone and have
something dropped off at my door and and like that's

(54:51):
that's the problem. You know. Back in the day, when
you're a little kid or when you start driving, you're
just like, oh, I remember being like, oh, I really
want to get a shake from Friendly's or something like that.
But then I'd be like, eh, I don't feel like
getting in the car and driving all the way there.
It's cold out, blah blah blah. Noh, it comes right
to you. Yeah, exactly like and it's just like having that,
and then on top of it, just the food being

(55:13):
so shitty and just completely processed. I watched some video
today of like cheese it's or something being made, and
you're just like, God, everything that we're eating and giving
our kids is just shit. It's just complete process shit.
Gabe sent me some video the other day of you know,
Costco pumpkin pies being out on a table at room temperature,

(55:35):
and the thought of that is disgusting to me because
I'm thinking of all the preservatives, because you would never
in a million years make a regular homemade pumpkin pie
and leave it out with the amount of eggs and
dairy in it. No way. Let me tell you some
crazy shit. The other day, I was in my kitchen
and I was going through the cabinets right and I found,

(55:55):
like all the way talked in this back corner of
like a third shelf that I can't even reach. I
found this bag of rolls and I haven't bought roll
The only time I buy rolls. They're like the gluten rolls.
The only time I buy those is if you guys
are coming over in the summer for a barbecue and
Ricky's making hamburgers. Okay, So as soon as I see

(56:16):
the bag, I'm like, oh my god, I'm scared to
pull this out because it's going to be covered in
like green fuzz and mold. Right because it's December. I
pull it out of the out of the cabinet and
there's there's not a single dot of green on the bread. Yeah,
they're definitely from August. Like, think about this bread in

(56:39):
the cabinet from August has no mold on it. Well,
I mean there was just a viral video over the
summer of this person that bought a hamburger for McDonald's
and put it in a pastry you know, like a
pastry stand with a clothes on top, and just like
took a time lapse video of it for months and
it literally looked exactly the same month later. This is
it's not it's no surprise. This is how our food's

(57:00):
been for a while. So so everybody's just seeing it now.
I mean they're obviously like at this point, when the
when the kids already gained the weight. You got to
treat the problem, but also we need to be treating
the problem as a whole entire society as well, you
know what I mean. At the same time, all right,

(57:21):
other death, this is kind of a story. I just
feel like we talk about every week another Disney ride
has closed after someone obviously didn't take our advice about
spreading ashes. I don't know, Hawted Mansion's probably that. I
would say that that's my favorite ride at Disney. And
if if I had to choose anywhere for you to
spread my ashes, I would say Haunted Mansion would be

(57:43):
the choice. I just again, the whole bag of ashes
is just so stupid on so many levels. How are
they getting the bag of ashes in? Maybe more problematic
for me? I don't know where are bringing it in?
I don't I don't under I just don't understand why
people are are are so are so hell bent on

(58:06):
put in the whole bag like like we said, just
like put it in a vial around your neck, in
a little tiny vial, unscrew the top and just sprinkle
it and like nobody will notice, because guess what, everybody's
gonna notice. A giant plume on a ride, and then
they're gonna freak out because of the day and age
we live in, and they're not going to be happy
about it. And then they're gonna ta in security cameras

(58:28):
and see exactly what you did. I don't know. I
really just don't understand why people care that much like it.
I think, why are we doing a story that it
was like on the grass around Cinderella's castle or something
last time or whatever, Like the ashes are just like whatever,
it's just like inert stuff, Like it's not gonna hurt
anybody who cares. But I understand inside a building, it's

(58:48):
just gonna be dusty and you have to clean it up.
And it's kind of dick to do something like that
because it's like there's some people that that like saved
for years of their life to go to Disney World
and imagine that being your one day at the Magic
Kingdom and you can't go on the Haunted Mansion because
it's closed down for hours because some asshole had to
drop the ashes like that, Like they're just messed up.

(59:09):
Discreete ways to do it. You can do it, just
like stop dumping the whole bag or huge amount like
the littlest bit goes a long way. You should start
selling jewelry or something that, like it looks like it's
just a necklace, but really it's just this file that
you could bring in discreetly sneak in anywhere to drop
your loved ones ashes anywhere. I mean, we can make

(59:30):
videos showing how to do it. Clearly, these people are
not listening to the show because we provided many tips
about to efficiently do this under the radar, and you know,
get what your loved one wants done and then know
that a piece of them is forever living there. But
a person that was at the park that wrote up
a report of this made a really good point that
like you've not only inconvenienced everybody for the day that

(59:52):
wanted to go on that ride, or like you're saying,
saved up for months or their whole lives to go
there for that day, But your loved one is getting
bad up, like they're going to be in a vacuum,
They're going to be thrown in the trash. They're not
going to be part of that ride. So you would
have been better off dumping a little bit of them
in a plant and then having them organically grow with
the rest of the bushes. So I don't know what

(01:00:14):
people are thinking. But let's move on to questions of
the day. Every Friday at the at Mother Nose Death
Instagram account, we put a little question box up in
the story. You guys can ask whatever you want first.
When you break a bone, is it the bone that
hurts or all the stuff around it? Uh, It's pretty
much just stuff around it. There's nerves that get severed
that caused the immense pain at first, and then once

(01:00:38):
those nerves are starting to regenerate, they cause more further
zaps over time. That's what causes the pain with a break.
I've never broke I never broke a bone, but Gabe
has several times and he said it's like the most
painful thing ever. So I take his word on that
because he's pretty he's pretty tolerant to pain. You know,

(01:00:59):
getting in epidoral the other day without taking a twilight,
which is just not driving himself there, driving himself there
and back. Did I tell you actually when he was
just like take off this band aid off in my
back and it was like soaked in blood and there
was like blood all over his T shirt. I was
just like, dude, what's wrong with you? You know what? Though,
I had an epidoral when I attempted to get one

(01:01:21):
for Lilian and when I was having a baby and
I was totally wide awake, so like whatever, Like he
could deal with it. It's not that big of a deal.
But if they offer you the twilet, you should take it.
But yeah, so when the nerves are trying to regenerate,
you feel pain and everything, and then eventually that will
go away. But then if that is, if you heal

(01:01:42):
it correctly, because otherwise, if those nerves never grow back properly,
you could just have chronic pain and that bone for
the rest of your life if you don't allow it
to heal it properly. So yeah, all right, what's our
middle names? Elizabeth and Nicole? Both of our mother's names

(01:02:04):
are middle name. How's cheesy? Do you think if I
have a daughter, I should make her middle name my
name so we could keep it going, because it seems
like the firstborn daughter always has the mother's name is
the middle names. I'm just trying to think though, because
because Aunt Jane is actually name, well, no, that's true,

(01:02:31):
because because Nannie's real name was Sarah, Jane. So Jane
was her middle name, and then she named aunt Jane.
So yeah, I would do it. Yeah, I mean I
feel like we have to just keep it going and
see how many generations it last. Yeah, that's cool, all right.
I don't know if it happened before that. Whatever last
biggest rule or law that I have ever broken. We

(01:02:54):
all know I'm a rule follower, So there's not many
I like to steal mugs from the hotel. I got
char're you're actually terrible at it. I'm terrible at it. Yeah, Maria,
actually she steals. She steals shit from like restaurants and
stuff all the time. I would never steal from a

(01:03:14):
store or anything like that ever. But you always like,
I'll take a knife from a restaurant or like a
cup something that says like the restaurant name on it,
or at hotels because whatever. Like yeah, but you're just
in the room to tell the story about the about
the one that you took out of the hotel. So

(01:03:35):
I was in Salt Lake City and they had a
mug and I was like, well, I'll take this because
I just get a little jolt, you know, from taking something,
and then I get my bill. First I want to say,
the same mug was on sale in a gift shop
for fourteen bucks, so they were the mugs in the
room for the coffee maker. So then I get my
bill after we check out, and they charged me twenty
six dollars for this month. But I didn't even want it,

(01:03:59):
which is the worst. It's like an extra fu like,
like fourteen dollars for a mug is outrageous. Twenty six
dollars for a mug is like I would be so
mad at myself. It's not a good mug. So like
I haven't done it since because I was so pissed off.
But what did you think was gonna happen? They always count,
like if you Gabe does that shit with the towels,

(01:04:22):
and I'm like, don't do that because they count how
many towels there are, and I don't want to get
charged like all this crazy money. Why so you said
you like took this towel. It's just so stupid. Well,
they I want to argue that they had a coffee
thing like a carabiner or whatever in the lobby, So
what if I had wanted to go to the lobby
and fill it up in a cup, not the paper

(01:04:43):
cup next to the thing, and I left it down
there because they had books and stuff. I should have
said that that's what happened. Well, not gonna lie. I
know what I did wrong and I'll accept it. But
you know what I really like about the Graduate Hotels,
which is my favorite hotel chain, is that they make
little things that they leave around the room and they
even screenprint on them. If this makes it way into

(01:05:03):
your suitcase, think of us like they enourage you to
take you to take stuff. Oh really, well, certain things
I don't want to say, just go in a room
they have. Really they have really cool mirrors in their bathroom,
just like, bring a screwdriver and take it with you
when you leave. I would never be that ballsy. They

(01:05:24):
did have like the coolest pillow ever at the one
we stayed at, and I considered it, but I knew
I was gonna get charged like five hundred dollars or
something astronomical for that. You know what. The best thing
I ever stole was from a rupture where I think
I get it from. Yeah, but I haven't done that
since I was like twenty or whatever. One time I
was at Olive Garden and when I was like I

(01:05:47):
don't know, nineteen or twenty or whatever, and I stole
that big ass like gallon of wine that's covered in
palm leaves, you know what I mean, like one of
those yun tea. Yeah, but it was it was like,
one know, there are display items on one of the shelves,
you know, do you know what I'm talking about that
I like wrapptop and the vom and stuff. Yeah, it

(01:06:07):
was so freaking big, like it just was. It was.
I was just kind of like, oh, this was like
an amazing grab. All right. Well I didn't ever drink alcoholic.
I just did it just because I was just like,
this thing's huge. Can I get out of the restaurant
with this thing? I would literally never take something that large.
It's like I take cups or knives or you know,
spice as a game. And then at like the melting pot.

(01:06:30):
We used to take that that seasoning for the salad,
you know, that sprinkle stuff. But obviously it's a trait
that's been passed out in generations. Well, we went there
a couple of weeks ago and I saw it and
I was just like, oh, I really want this, And
I was just like I can't do this Like, I'm
forty five years old. I'm not going to take this
freaking shaker of seasoning right now. This is ridiculous. I

(01:06:53):
guess I haven't really done it as much. There's one
restaurant in particular we go to as a family where
I love their stuff, but it's this is like a
local restaurant. They one hundred percent know that people steal
their mugs. And Maria has so many not mugs. It's
like a a pint glass. Don't you have like an
entire collection of them? Well I had a couple, but
what I moved into my house, some of them broke.

(01:07:16):
But you know, some people are gonna be appalled listening
to this, But I want to state for the record
that almost every single person I know has a pint
class from that same restaurant. So we used to too,
but I'm like, they don't match my kitchen, so I
don't want them in here. But Gabe used to take
them too. I mean, yeah, I'll take like a glass,
sometimes I'll take Ramikins like little stuff. It's just, oh
my god, why not nobody? Nobody is ever going to

(01:07:40):
let you in. We'll never have a restaurant sponsor on
this show because they're gonna think that, uh, we're gonna
take stuff from their restaurant. Whatever. Even when I worked
at the bar, people would be like, I really like
this glass. I'm like, well, if I turn my back
and don't see anything anything, so I hope your old
boss isn't listening. They are. They know that's fine, all right, whatever,

(01:08:03):
They have them. Half their restaurants get these glasses for
free from the alcohol companies. Like who cares? Okay, everybody
chill out. Otherwise, I'm a complete rule follower, so there's
no laws being broken over. I was gonna say the
worst rule Maria ever broke was like not turning her
turning signal on and making a right hand turn or something.

(01:08:24):
But she would never do that. I would never. How
dare you even miss? I drove with the suspended license.
I would never. Okay, guys, well, don't forget to submit
your shocking story to stories at motherdosdeath dot com and
we'll be back next week with some more stories. What's tomorrow, Maria, Well,
we're recording a day early. But when you guys hear this,

(01:08:47):
it'll be my thirtieth birthday. Yeah, Maria is gonna be
thirty so happy birthday. Thanks. I'm wearing my new gorgeous
blazer that I received as a gift from you. It
is pretty cute and I'm glad it's my size, so
maybe i'll be wearing it in a couple of weeks. Great.
Do you feel old having a thirty year old child? Yes,

(01:09:10):
it's kind of impossible because I'm still thirty. Yeah right, Okay.
This is why I always say we're going to be
old together, because when you really think about it, now
that I'm thirty and you're forty five, it's really not
that big of an age gap anymore. No, it really isn't.
I was just thinking how crazy it was that on
your thirtieth birthday, I was fifteen years old.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
I don't know, so that's basic math, but just thinking
about our life and where we were. Think about yourself
right now, like, could you imagine having a fifteen year
old kid? No, I can't even imagine having a one
year old kid. I can't imagine having a full blown teenager. Yeah,
it's outrageous, it is nuts, but yeah, it's been. It's
been a glorious thirty years. So I think my mom's

(01:09:53):
like more messed up about it. Than I am. I
know MoMu pop up you know lives in lah lah Land.
So he was just like, thirty, what do you mean?
But yes, it is all right, We'll see you next week.

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