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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we
are going to be talking about a political commentator who
fainted on live TV, the latest TikTok trends that are
causing injuries and deaths, a man doing the unthinkable because
he is insecure about his penisize, a lover's quarrel in
an infectious disease lab getting denied a passport because of
(00:44):
drastic changes in your appearance, and of course we have
to talk about the botched firing squad. All that and
more on today's episode. First, I want to say I
apologize we're not having video this week because I just
had surgery yesterday and I looked like quasimoto. So We're
gonna take a break from video for this week. And
(01:05):
I'll tell you guys more about that a little bit
later on. But let's get started with this political commentator
who fainted on the air. All right, so last week,
political commentator Cameron Canzie. She was doing a segment on
Fox News at Night and halfway through a sentence, she
appeared to lose her train of thought and then passed out.
All right, so this is vaso vagel syncope. It's just fainting.
(01:28):
It's normal. It happens all the time. I actually didn't
happen too, like a congresswoman or something this week too.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah. I was gonna say, how nuts is this? Because
a senator also passed out while doing a live press
conference last week.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
All right, so it happens. It could definitely happen when
you have like an emotional trigger. And just as a
person that's been going on stage in front of a
lot of people, I think being on a national broadcast
on TV would really make me freak out. So this
is standing on stage in front of a bunch of people,
Like those types of things could cause it to happen.
(02:03):
And what happens is your heart rate and blood pressure
drops suddenly and it reduces the oxygenated blood that's going
to your brain, and then you temporarily lose consciousness. I mean,
you've heard of this happening all the time. The real
reason that I wanted to bring up this story was
because the video went viral. And if you watch it,
the guy his name is Jonathan Hunt, he's the host
(02:27):
of the show. He's sitting there and watches this chick
like pass out and fall to the floor and he
doesn't even get up to help her. It's so freaking weird.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
No, he basically he like watches her fall out of
the chair under the ground and just goes, oh goodness,
we're gonna get her some help. Why don't you get
out of your chair and over.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, Like he's just like hardcore, like the show must
go on, like no matter what, and really, if you faint,
it's not harmful at all. But like the thing that
could cause harm is if you fall out of a
chair and you know, hit your head on a table
or on the floor or something like that. Like he
literally watched it go down and just it just was
so weird that that he was just trying to keep
(03:08):
his colds for the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It just was.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It was just the weirdest human reaction ever. If you
guys didn't see the video, so make sure you check
that out, because I just don't understand what's going on there,
even if a producer.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Was in his earpiece and was like, do not get
up just ending yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Like you're just like you're a human being, like this
woman just fell in front of you and you don't
know what's wrong with her? And he's not a medical person.
He doesn't he doesn't just think like oh she just whatever.
Like it's just it's just a very weird reaction.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
It was also weird because it was very like sleeping beauty,
like like she was just like talking and then her
makeup is perfect and she just so slowly goes down
and I was like, this is the wildest looking thing ever.
I feel horrible for her. I mean, because you know,
the clip went so viral of her passing out. I
do find it funny. He's getting a lot of criticism
(03:59):
because does any human that just saw somebody fall. I mean,
you've already established you laugh at people at fall.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, because it's funny, but not when people are It's
funny when people trip and ball, not when they're like
passing out and having a medical issue. No, I don't know.
Like I watched the video, you know this is this
is how it goes now. You watch these viral videos
online and then you like immediately go to the comments
to be like, Okay, I need justification that I'm thinking
(04:27):
the same thing everyone else is thinking. And sure enough,
all these people were just like like nobody cares that
the girl passed out. It's like whatever, everybody cared about
the guy's reaction to it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So, I mean, it is just so absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
All right, So let's talk about this. There's this woman
that has a podcast that's called Nip Tuck. I assume
she talks about plastic surgery because this story is about
her having lots of plastic surgery.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah. This chick, Ashley Stobart, she's an influencer and the
co host of this nip talk podcast you talked about.
It's actually called like nip took what the dot dot
dot U.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh, that's kind of clever.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah. So she had a lot of controversy because she
decided to get a facelift at thirty four, but she
said it was due to sagging skin she had as
a result of filler dissolver. But she said she had
so much work done that her passport ended up getting
denied on a recent trip. Well, you know, like I
don't know if you remember this, this one video or
(05:24):
that was going around a couple years ago of Kylie
Jenner's face looking like very old and there was a
lot of people that do injections that were saying that
that's a possibility. I mean, like I could see, I
could see that that would happen, because it's kind of
it might essentially be the same as weight loss, like
if you're if you're heavy and then you lose weight,
(05:46):
but you have that skin that's stretched out, you know
what I mean? Like yeah, because people are getting so much,
like it's not just like a little bit. There's some
people that just have so much in their face it
makes I don't know, I don't I don't think it
looks attractive at all. I don't really understand it. But
people could do whatever they want to do whatever, and
(06:06):
like if she wants to get a facelift and do
all this stuff, she could do it. I mean, people
do that all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
But I guess, I guess the crazy thing is is
that like, for example, right now, I told you guys,
I look like Quasimoto right Like I can't even open
my phone right now because it's like, who the hell
is this person? Because my face is deformed?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But like, I guess that happens with the facial recognition
technology too. At the airport when they're checking passports and
stuff to be like, yeah, this isn't the same person
because you're changing your face structure when you get surgery
like that, and it's it's just something that I don't know.
I guess I never really thought about, but apparently other
people are having this issue too.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah. I do find it interesting with a passport though,
because you know, like they last for ten years even
when you're like a little kid. So I'm just like,
how do you get a passport when you're like the
girl's age right? Think about dude, listen to hitting one.
So this is interesting though, Like you know how there's
for those people of you that have iPhones, there's this
thing inside of the photos where you have pictures of
(07:13):
people you commonly take pictures of. So in my first couple,
it's like Me, Gabe, the girls, you, Ricky, momm Louie,
like just people that are in all the pictures. And
you could click on a picture of Lucia's face, right,
and then it'll pull up all of the pictures of
Lucia in my phone. She's she's ten years old right now,
(07:33):
And when I put that, when I hit that, it
pulls up her picture from me and Gabe having her
in the hospital. Wow, Like it it recognized whatever it's reading.
It recognizes the difference, so I could see why they
don't make you get it changed, because if it's able,
I just think that that's really trippy, don't you. I
was just in there recently and I'm like, I can't
(07:55):
believe this thing recognizes that this is the same person. Well,
I hate the face recognition software because I first was
really bothered by Like for the iPhone, it's awesome, obviously,
but I was first really bothered by it when we
were in Disney a couple of years ago, and then
all of a sudden on the app, pictures of us
on certain rides were populating, and I'm like, how the
fuck does this know it's me?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, I don't like that either, So so that's it.
It's really cool because the woman said, I guess in
the article that there were people that work in this
situation for either border patrol or at customs, and they
said that the facial recognition is not the be all
(08:37):
end all. If that doesn't recognize you, then real person,
a real person will come out and start kind of
interviewing you. Sometimes they ask you for credit cards. And
this one woman had said that a guy came in
and was staring at her face and it was super awkward,
like staring in her eyes to see if it was
actually her on the passport, which I could imagine would
(09:00):
be really uncomfortable. But I guess that if you have
a lot of surgery or a lot of filler in
your face or something, that's something you need to consider
if you're traveling.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, I mean, I guess I didn't even think about it.
And then one of the co hosts said she also
knew a person who was trying to go to Turkey
and that that person also got so much work done
that they wouldn't let them in the country because they
they couldn't get approved with the passport.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's it's it's interesting though, because sometimes, like even yesterday
when I went to the surgeon, like they said, okay,
we need your ID and your insurance and all that stuff,
and I'm like sitting there with no makeup on and
glasses and the picture of my driver's license is no glasses,
and I'm wearing like a ton of makeup. And it
was actually when I was pregnant with Lilian, so it's
twelve years old, and I was like significantly heavier because
(09:47):
I was ready to give birth to her. I think
I was like two hundred and some pounds, so my
face is bigger, and it's like, I don't even look
anything like that either. It's kind of a stretch to
be like, oh, this is the same person, you know,
so it had there has to be more than just
a facial id for things like that.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh yeah, totally. It's funny though, because this girl on
the podcast was saying she was even trying to pull
up photos from during the surgery. The show was really her.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
But god, that's so embarrassing, I know. All right, So
let's talk about these TikTok trends that have come up
this week again. Every single all of these TikTok trends
are in general, like going to cause a person to
get seriously injured or killed. I feel like that's what
we could pretty much say from right now. I guess
there's good ones that go around like this. My kids
(10:35):
are trying to tell me about this new ice bucket
challenge thing, and I was like, that's not new.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, that's better on forever.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, but I guess it's not about als anymore. It's
about bringing awareness to mental health. And I'm just like,
couldn't you have thought of something else because like you're
taking away the als challenge. I don't know, I don't
understand like what the change was, but whatever. And you know,
my kids aren't even on TikTok, but whatever they see YouTube,
they go to school whatever. I mean, like everybody does
(11:04):
these trends. So the first one is like, I don't
know what idiot came up with this and how this
stuff goes viral, But it's like, oh, let's stick random
items into the USB port of our computers are school
issued chromebook computers, and see if we can cause an
electrical short circuit and a potential fire. Like this sounds
(11:25):
like a great idea. Yeah, like not only are you
destroying school property, but you're basically causing a harm to
everybody around you. Not to mention, don't those things have
the lithium ion batteries in them that are extremely dangerous
when they're on fire, like yeah, blow up, Yeah, they're
extremely dangerous. And of course there's been several fire departments
that have actually put out warnings because they've had to
(11:47):
go to schools to put out fires that are caused
by this. And this is like stid kids sticking on
like paper clips or anything in there that shouldn't be
in there because they could puncture the battery. So I
just don't I don't understand like how kids' minds work.
But the other one going around is this other TikTok
trend that's called ding dong ditch prank that is also
(12:11):
not new.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That ding dong.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Literally isn't forever.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Like so it's you just go up to somebody's house
and you ring the doorbell and run away. Okay, that's
that's fine.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, but the problem is that they're videoing it, so
they're taking way longer than like the classic eighties, you
know prank where you're just truly going up to someone's house,
ringing the doorbell and running away. They're taking all this
extra time to record the videos, and they're doing it like,
you know, I feel like when I was younger, people
would do it at like what like eight o'clock at night,
not three in the morning like in this case.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, So, so what happened this guy, this twenty seven
year old guy thinks his house is getting broken into.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Well, he told police he thought his house was getting
broken into, But I'm gonna say, based on the charges,
they might have found something different.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, this is the thing though, Like I'm thinking right now,
if you're in a if you live in a place
where you're allowed to have a gun to protect your
home and somebody at now, these kids were doing this
at three o'clock in the morning, is like ringing my
doorbell and there's a ruckus outside. I'm gonna be scared
that somebody's trying to break into my house, That's right.
(13:21):
So the guy, I guess, the guy thinks someone's breaking
into his house and shoots at the kids, and one
of the kids gets killed. He's dead, Like a kid
is dead because of this. And now this guy, he yeah,
and I don't know what happened, Like at first he
didn't get in trouble, but then he got arrested and
charged with second degree murder malicious wounding in two other
(13:43):
accounts of use of a firearm. So, like Maria was saying,
I'm sure there's more to the story, but like I'm
just saying, just for this guy, like he definitely shouldn't
have shot and killed somebody, But at the same time,
he was probably a sleep and at three am woken
up and scared, and like now his whole life has
(14:04):
changed too. He obviously didn't make the right decision, but
like he was just sitting there all innocently and these
people just showed up at his house and started trouble.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Well, I mean, you're also I guess, varying states to state,
Like I don't think you're just allowed to shoot somebody
that's breaking in depending where you live. This happened in
Spotsylvania County, Virginia. That sounds like a totally fake place,
but that's.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
How I always see that. When we're taking road trips,
I always see all these weird bergs in Vania's and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I mean, I just was talking to you the other
day about how you know, like these solicitors come up
to your door, and I can't believe more of those
people don't end up getting shot because it's not the
nineteen fifties. People get very scared when you come up
on their property without announcing yourself first. And sometimes they're
coming at night when it's dark, so I'm like, it
(14:56):
always scares the shit out of me. It will be
like nine o'clock in the morning, someone will not go
my door, and I'm like, I don't like this, you know,
So I can't believe there's not more problems with people
like this. And then you have these teenagers just not
thinking things through. It's in the middle of the night,
they're scaring the shit out of people who are sleeping.
I obviously, like I don't think they obviously like deserved
(15:16):
what happened to them because it's so horrible and you
were just doing an innocent, little kid thing. But they're
just not thinking about it. And then you have this
guy who's just panicking because he doesn't know what's going on,
according to what he told police.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So what I don't understand if you have kids that
are in high school, I just don't understand at any
time why they should be out at three o'clock in
the morning, even if it's on the weekend, Like not
no good is coming from that. That's when all crimes happen,
is at three o'clock in the morning, Like are there?
I mean, I understand kids sneak out, trust me. Like
(15:51):
my husband tells me when he was younger, like his
mom would go to bed and he would leave for
the whole night. And I'm like, oh my god, if
my kids ever did that. But I never did that.
But I maybe boys are more likely to do that girl.
I don't know if girls do it either all the time.
So like you can't sit there and totally talk shit
on the parents because if the kids knock out, like
(16:12):
what are you gonna do? But I also just think,
like why are they out at three in the morning,
you know what I mean? It's just no good's gonna
come from that.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I mean, this isn't really relevant to this particular case
because the ding Gung ditch has been around forever, but
to the last one where these kids are starting fires.
I'm just trying to think of, like when these trends
became so dangerous and they all seem attached to TikTok
because when I was younger, I mean, social media was
around just as much as it is today, and we
(16:42):
had Wow, I wouldn't say I wouldn't say that, though
it really was around in some capacity, Like we had
YouTube at the very least, and Twitter and Facebook were
just starting to get big when I was in high school.
So I'm just thinking about that, And there was definitely
like viral videos and trends people were doing, but it
was like you would go to McDonald's and grab the
ice cream cone upside down, you weren't setting your school
(17:03):
computer on.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Felt, but when you were younger that was there was
like that tide pod challenge, Like dumb bullshit. I remember
having to tell you, like these conversations you have to
have with your kids are ridiculous, Like I just have
to sit down and be like you, guys know that
you should never stick like a paper clip or something
metal into the USB board of your chromebook. I think
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kids are probably doing it because they think like they
could get out of class for the day or something.
I'm not sure what the motive is, but you could
get in a lot of trouble, especially for starting a fire,
vandalism and everything like that. Plus you're we had assign
like all these contracts and shit, when the kids use
the chromebooks, you know that we're not gonna damage them
(17:49):
and this and that. So well, the school said they
could face criminal charges of vandalism and arson in addition
to possibly getting suspended or expelled, So there's serious consequences.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I don't know, Like, I just watched this really good
documentary about Twitter. I think it's called Breaking the Bird,
and I think it's really interesting on like the cultural
impact of social media and how when they made that platform.
They really didn't think anything bad would come out of it,
and of course you will always have bad faith. Actor.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
This is what's wrong with with every single one of
these technologies, and that's what's actually alarming, because these people
are so brilliant that they're able to code and just
do these amazing things, but they're not smart enough to
think about any of the bad stuff that people will
do with it. And it's just it's starting to get
on my nerves, honestly. And we have a story coming
(18:40):
up either today's episode or tomorrow's episode about some crazy
technology that they're doing too, and you're just kind of like, okay,
how like number one, why do we need to do this?
And number two, like how I mean social media has
definitely changed the world and it's made things a lot
better in some way, but at the same time, if
(19:01):
we never had it, we would have never known and
it would have been fine. And I feel like, honestly,
like at this point, I think it's doing more harm
than than good. So well, yeah, you know, it's not
only just that stuff. It's just like causing a lot
of division and just like rehashing issues that were semi
resolved at some point and just it's just like it's
(19:22):
just it's getting really gross. Honestly.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well you also noticed, like metas always like we're trying
to implement positive mental health changes. Okay, well, why all
of a sudden on notifications, does it tell me how
many followers somebody that commented on my post has and
now people have to worry about that, like you're making
it worse.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh yeah it is. And and like we've we haven't,
like Maria and I haven't really told you about all
the problems that we have on social media, like we
have really never told you the extent of it. And
I mean we bitch about it a lot, Like we
bitch about it a lot, but we don't talk about
like how how we're on the phone, like I I
was on the phone for hours with them about the
(20:03):
about the posts and this and that, and just like
they're they want to make Instagram a safe place and
my videos are too graphic, but that they're trying to
tell me that, But then the people who have voluntarily
subscribed to my page can't see my stuff and there's
no shortage of like serious porn on there, which is
(20:24):
completely accessible to children. I mean, and then they're concerned
about children, and then I'm just like, children shouldn't even
be have access to all this stuff. It's just so crazy.
So it's just it's just like so gross. I just
don't even I don't even know what to say at
this point about it. But let's let's just go on
to another story because I'm just gonna get agro and
(20:45):
start like whatever, Like it is what it is, and
this is like you have to live in this world
now where this is why I don't want my kids
to have that. But unfortunately, like other people that my
kids are friends with that they have it. So it's
like they're always going to be exposed. You can't you
can't hide them from it, and all you have to
do is just like read the news often listen to
(21:07):
our show, of course, and we will update you on
the craziest things that are going on, so you could
just sit there and talk to your kids about it.
I honestly, just because there's just so much more of
a chance with accidents in boys and men than there
are with with girls and women. This is like I
feel like both of these things are probably mostly not
(21:27):
even applicable to girls. I feel like this is commonly
a thing that's going to happen with with boys with
the like, I just don't see girls being interested in
like setting their computer on fire or like running up
to someone's door.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
And well there will always be a few, but just
probably statistics.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Statistically though, it's the accidental injuries and deaths to happen
way more frequently with with men than women. So but yeah,
so let's go. Let's go on to a more juici
or subject, which is a guy that was in secure
about his penises started doing something very unusual.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, in Scotland, this anisthesiologist. He's been sentenced to jail
time after admitting to hiding cameras in his work bathroom
to compare his penis size to his co workers.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Like, so, so I guess after this he gets arrested
in all this stuff and then he says that he
was diagnosed with body dysmorphia because apparently no.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
First he said he was diagnosed with gigantism and suspected
suspect that he was diagnosed with suspected gigantism which caused
the body dysmorphia when he was a teenager, and that
was the reasoning that he possibly had a small penis
or something, so like, let's back up, I don't know
(22:46):
if you ever get diagnosed with suspected gigantism, it is
there is or it isn't, And it's a growth hormone
issue when you're a kid. So you you've seen people
like Andre the Giant and things like that that people
that have this. So if it happens before your growth
plates and your bones fused when you're a child, that's gigantism,
whereas if it happens as an adult or after they fuse,
(23:08):
that's acromegle. So I'm not sure exactly which condition he
had if he's saying that he was semi diagnosed or
suspected diagnosed as a teenager. But the growth hormone could
cause an abnormal growth, especially in heights. So this is
when you see these people that are like can be
up to eight feet tall.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It also causes their heart to get larger and other
organs to get larger, so in theory, like their penis
could also be larger too, but that doesn't always happen.
So if his penis was like a normal size but
he was seven or eight foot tall, that might look
disproportionate and might make him think that his penis looks smaller.
I don't know. But regardless if you have this or not,
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because there's plenty of dudes that have this condition, Like
that doesn't give you the right to start filming your
friends and your coworkers to see if your penis is
the same size as theirs.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
No, of course not. So he ended up hiding recording
devices in air fresheners and a smoke alarm in the
bathroom of his spare bedroom and his house, in addition
to the bathrooms at his work. He claimed he recorded
thirty different people and used the footage to compare himself
to other men, and he committed the acts between November
twenty twenty and August twenty twenty three. He was only
(24:19):
caught when one victim became suspicious of two air fresheners
which appeared to be facing the toilet and shower and
then open them up and found the devices.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, and also like why was he was filming some
women too?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Like so, like your your whole entire argument is just
like thrown out the window. You're just like a creepy
PERV Dude's that's all you are. So's he's in trouble though, right.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Well, he was suspended from his work as a doctor.
I'm sorry, you need to have everything removed. Who is
going to trust an anesthesiologist after some creepy behavior like this?
He was sent in stay eighteen months, probation for nine
months after the release, and then he's only going to
be a registered sex offender for ten years.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Why is there a limit? Yeah, I don't know whether
it's a limit. I was just gonna say that, like,
I feel like that could be the biggest deterrent yet
that you will be forever labeled as a sex offender
for the rest of your life if you do something.
But you know that all the people that protect criminals
will be against that. We actually have We could talk
about that later with another story we have. I mean,
(25:21):
so he's thirty four years old, so he really like
when do you think he finished school? It has so
he hasn't really been a doctor all that long. So
you just went through all that education. Where what country
is this in? Did it Scotland? Yeah? I don't know
what they're because they might not have the same system,
because I know that there are some countries that, like
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I believe and I could be wrong, So don't don't
quote me on this. But when I was when I
was working with a lot of residents and stuff, some
would like come from China and they would become a
resident in our residency program. But I thought that they
told me that they went right to medical school after
high school, so they skip that whole like four year
(26:03):
college degree in between high school and medical school that
you would typically do in America. So which would mean
that those people would be eligible to become doctors four
years earlier than Americans would. So I don't know, but yes,
like you're saying, like if he did the traditional uh
(26:24):
graduate high school, go to four years of undergrad four
years of medical school, and then do a residency in
Anesesion everything like that, then yes, he would be like
a very young new attending physician at that point. So
I mean, regardless, it doesn't matter, like and that's actually
even creepier because a person that is willing to record
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people like that, it's scary that they have the knowledge
to put a person to sleep and possibly do things
to them when they're asleep, and access to those medications too,
So yeah, how could you have any trust in somebody
like that? That should be And like I said, that's
in Scotland. Like, I think if that happened in America,
that he would lose his medical license forever and that
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would be the end of the story, especially it was
being done at the workplace and all this stuff. But
I don't really know how things go down, but he
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I mean I personally think that that one's my favorite
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I have the most interest in. And there is some
between the death investigation and some of them and just
the way they that they killed the children and these
despicable human beings. It's just really interested to go through
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Department of Health and Human Services, which I'll referred to
as j says going forward, has put a pause on
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research at a major high risk infectious disease lab due
to multiple safety violations. And the best part of this
is the investigation stemmed from a lover's spat between two
of the researchers. Yeah, so let's first talk about labs. Okay,
because I've worked in a lab my well since I've
been nineteen years old, and there's all there's there's there's
(28:55):
basically four different kinds. They're called biosafety levels for labs.
So you have type one, which is like that's doing infections,
working with infections that really don't cause disease in healthy adults.
It might be just like opportunistic ones or ones that
just don't really get most people sick anyway. And then
you have level two, which can cause if accidentally inhaled
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or swallow. Level three, which is even more severe cases
like airborne things like TB. So I would say, like
the hospital microbiology lab, for example, would be a biosafety
level two, and the three would be used was a
special room that we used for doing specimens that had
potential TB. So that's that's a level three. And then
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you have the level four, which is what we're talking
about now with this case, which is diseases that don't
have any known vaccines or therapies available. So even though
COVID has a vaccine, we all know that that doesn't
like really work to prevent it. So that's not considered
to be a legitimate treatment as far as what went
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down that there are things that could treat people, but
for the most part, it still can be deadly for
certain type of patients, but also disease that are really
serious like ebola, marburg last of fever, all these different things.
So these labs are sometimes they're in specific rooms that
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are dedicated. Actually they sometimes have isolated zones in specific
buildings that are just made for that. You see a
lot of it. If you've ever seen like the movie
Outbreak or something. You see people going in with these
special suits on, and they have to wear special kinds
of suits dedicated for this. They have to shower as
soon as they exit the lab. They have to go
through a series of procedures. They have to be trained
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in a certain way to deal with these organisms, just
because if they get released, like it's a problem. And
now that we're talking about that, like especially it's been
in the new is that it's more than likely COVID
came from a situation like this, that it was released
from some kind of a lab. People are now like
really taking this seriously because you see what happened when
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COVID happened here, right, So we don't want things like
that ever being exposed, especially when there's there's no treatments
for these things.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
So apparently, like Maria was saying, that there was this
lover's quarrel and what happened was one of the individual's
poked holes in one of these protective suits that the
other person was putting on to work with one of
these deadly bacteria or viruses. And it's just so crazy
to think that this is happening in a situation like this,
(31:42):
that like this person got fired, right, fine, they should go.
They should be arrested for attempted murder, and even more
because they could have potentially harmed other people if the
person that they were having this lover's quarrel with actually
got infected. With one of these things.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Well, again, like how hard do you work to get
into a facility like this and then you're gonna sabotage
your entire career and possibly have criminal charges because you
had a lover spet. It's ridiculous. And it's not the
only incident they've had. They had one as recently, another
situation as recently as November, so there's multiple.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It's psycho dude, Like if you're gonna be poking holes
and like, let's say you know somebody is working with
ebola and you're gonna go poke holes in their outfit.
The only reason you're doing that is because you want
them to catch it. And like those types of things
being released, especially like into the United States where we
don't even have that, and how easily it could spread.
(32:43):
It's just and how deadly it is. It's just like
you were thinking about this ahead of time and you
were trying to kill this person, and it's really gross
that that happens. But this is the thing, like you
were saying, yes, these people are sometimes educated, sometimes even
PhD level microbiologists, epidemiologists and things like that, but everybody
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is just still a human and they you know that
you could say the number one cause of murder or
the reason the motive for people murdering people is over love.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's a known thing from the beginning of time. And
it doesn't matter how educated you are. I mean, like, look,
the guy we just talked about was a doctor and
he was still committing crimes. Like, you're still a human,
you know, and you have flaws like that, and unfortunately
this could affect all of us, which is super scary.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, I just think of these two nerds in this
lover's quarrel, right, Oh, they're total nerds. Instead of like
shooting you or stabbing you or poisoning you something obvious,
she's like, I'm gonna poke tiny holes in your protective
gear because this person is smart enough to know the
effect that's going to have. But they're like, the individual
has since been fired, Okay, what about some criminal charges
because this could have been the severe harm to society
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and maybe this person shouldn't really be like walking around
with access to all these diseases. It's very concerning. So
the HHS has put them on pause. All research at
the facility will come to a halt and access will
be limited to essential personnel. The director has also been
put on leave, and it's unclear how long the pause
will remain in effect. It's just so concerning that this
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is going down in a place like this.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I know, but I mean, like, like I said, they're
humans and that's I mean, it's total like oh like
nerd party, right, but probably but whatever, like it, they're
the ones you gotta watch out for because they're smart
and they could They're not going to do something as
simple as that. And who knows what you'll ever find
(34:43):
out about COVID and stuff like that, like what actually
went down with that and how that got released, But
like the bottom line is is that that could happen,
and it's freaking we don't want that to happen. Ever again, no,
definitely not, especially like you're saying, with one of these
more severe illnesses, like I can't even freaking imagine if
something like that happened. Well, that's the thing too, because
(35:05):
COVID I've been saying this from the beginning, like COVID
was COVID was the perfect one because it disabled our
country enough to cause it to recab it, but not
enough to kill a lot of people. And it did
kill a lot of people, but it really didn't. When
you think about the capability of other kinds of viruses
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and especially viral infections, it just it didn't come anywhere
close to being lethal like some other things are. So
you have to there's always these fear that you like,
bioterrorism and stuff like that. And I personally think, and
I've thought this since the beginning, that I think that
(35:47):
COVID was an act of bioterrorism. But we don't need
to get into that right now, but there but for sure,
like you think COVID was bad, there's going to there's
a potential for other viruses to kill everyone, not just
like certain populations or demographics of people like, but everyone,
children and adults, higher death rate, and it's just it
(36:09):
could be really really bad. So and them working on
these things, they have to be like the top tier
people in the world that don't let like Petty Lover's
quarrels get in their way, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely unreal. So when Lauren was
on last time, we had talked about this firing squad
death in South Carolina, and now another one has occurred.
But they're saying this guy was shot two times and
his autopsy results are indicating that he didn't die right away,
suffering about thirty to sixty seconds after his death. So
(36:43):
this firing squad was consisted of three shooters, but they
only found two bullet holes in the in the person
that got shot, which is kind of alarming because they're like,
all right, well, where was the third one? So some
people are trying to say, oh, well, maybe two people
shot at the same time and it went through one hole,
(37:04):
which is like, no, that absolutely did not happen. I
thought not all of them fired sometimes so nobody or
they fired, but one was a blank, so nobody really
knew who was the killer.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Well, but the thing is is that I don't think
that was the case here. I think they said that
there was ammunition in all three weapons, so someone someone
didn't shoot, which is possible because I guess you could
imagine that. I don't know how they pick, like who
is going to how do they pick who is going
to be the people that shoot, and how they pick
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the people in general, like what are their qualifications. I
have no idea about any of that stuff. But maybe
someone like chickened out last minute and just decided that
they weren't going to be the one that killed this guy,
like they had this last minute change of heart and thought,
I don't want to do this. But I actually just
cannot believe that you're high. You have a firing squad
to kill someone from to execute someone that has committed
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a crime that you're not picking like a perfect sharp shooter.
There are people in this world that are excellent at
getting targets. They're saying that they did the autopsy on
this person and the heart was missed, like it was
largely missed. They said that there was damage to the
liver and other internal organs. And I guess we would say,
(38:27):
like this is if you want to talk about cause,
like first there's all this like should we do this
or not? And then oh we should do it humanly
or not? If you want to take this specific example, though,
I don't know why we're so concerned about this guy
suffering for thirty to sixty seconds he murdered three people,
including a police officer, Like did he care about them
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suffering when he killed those three people? No? I mean,
And the interesting thing is in this specific article that
we cite, the whole thing is about like compassion for
this guy who who like suffered getting executed when they
didn't say one thing about what he actually was getting
executed for. So let's let's talk about that a little bit.
(39:10):
He murdered a man following a drug deal gone wrong. Okay, fine,
and then he robbed and killed a twenty nine year
old convenience store clerk who had nothing to do with anything.
So this guy just died because he was in the
wrong place at the wrong time. And then two days
later he carjacked demand and stole his car and fled,
so that's also scary for that guy. And then he
murdered a fifty six year old off duty police officer
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whose body then he doused in diesel fuel and then burned.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, like we're not talking about somebody that did it
like a minor crime. This is a murderer.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, and he had a whole other string of lifelong
crime whatever. But regardless, if we decided in this country
that we're supposed to induce the least pain on these people,
then that's the decision and we need to respect that right.
So why on earth? And obviously we talked we've talked
about this before on this show, about lethal injection and
(40:03):
like the autops, so there's always an autopsy down on
someone when whenever they are are killed by the state,
there will always be an autopsy done just to document
everything and to see what happened. And when you talk
about lethal injection from pentobarbital, these autopsies have shown that
these people have pulmonary edema, which is fluid that is
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accumulating in the lungs, which shows that there's this sense
of sensation similar to drowning that they experience for up
to ten minutes before they actually die. So they're suffering there.
So then they thought, okay, well let's do firing squad
because if we shoot someone straight in the heart, then
like they'll die instantly, right, No, they get people that
miss the heart. So I mean, right there, you're just
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kind of like, how is this such a shit show?
Like all of the sharpshooters in the world, you cannot
find somebody that could just shoot this guy in the heart, right,
And so what happened was he gets shot in the
liver and other organs and he's alive for thirty to
sixty seconds. Because what happens is like let's say you
shoot somebody in the liver right and you last rate
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one of their major arteries. Like, yeah, they're gonna start
bleeding internally, and that's if you hit a major artery, honestly,
but they're gonna start bleeding internally, but like their heart's
still gonna be beating perfectly fine, They're just gonna have
less blood coming through. They're gonna be completely conscious, aware,
and in pain the entire time. So and like this
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looks really bad because this was not that this is
not an instantaneous death like they thought it was gonna be.
And observers there said that he was squirming and he
was moaning and complaining, and it's just kind of like listen,
like if we've made the decision that this is what
we're going to do, then like I don't understand why
it's such a shit show.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, I think somebody didn't do their job. I'm also
surprised they only shoot one time, that there's only two
bullets that went in. I just don't think that seems
effect that. I don't know, something clearly went wrong.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
It's just like you think about hunters can get like
a deer that's running, Like you have a guy that's
sitting in front of you with a clear eye and
he's not a moving target, like it just I really
just can't believe it. So that makes me wonder, I
really want to know, like what are what are the
qualifications of these people that are doing this? Is this
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just like some guard that works there or are they
I feel like they would get people that are that
are clear sharp shooters. Now, this guy's lawyer is saying
that he was there when his client got executed and
he thought that the target on his chest was a
little bit too low, which is interesting. Like I just
(42:44):
I just really don't even understand any of this honestly,
So it is it is messed up because like if
if our country has said we're not doing this, then
like you can't do that. It's it's just more messed
up because it's a shit show. But honestly, like you know,
you could say in our opinion, like let's say, for example,
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a guy like raped and killed a kid, Like most
people would agree, like, well, we don't care if somebody
else rapes and kills that guy, he should suffer just
like his victim suffered and stuff. But like that that's
not what we do here, which is probably a good thing.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
But I like, but like who's being sentenced to death?
That isn't a murdered you know what.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I mean, people have been sentenced to death that aren't murderers.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
So that's the talking about today.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I'm saying people in the past have been accused of
crimes that they didn't commit and have been this This
is why it's so controversial because like, unless you're one
hundred percent sure, which I'm assuming that it's becoming the
case more and more today that people are figuring that out.
But even so, unless I don't know, unless you have
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video of it or evidence of it, you can't. That's
why it's so controversial because people think, like what I mean,
there's been people that have been executed that have been innocent,
and and that's why people are against it. But like
if we know for certain that this guy did all
this stuff, then like then yeah, I mean, like I
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don't I mean, you set, you killed a person and
then put fuel on his body and burned his body.
Like imagine how his family feels.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Well. Yeah, And I said this like last week about
that woman who tied her kid to the bed and
was beating her cat food and let her pee all
over the bed. And you know, think about Ruby Frankie,
who's rubbing Cayenne Pepper and her kid's wounds after she
beat him. Like to me, people like that deserve worse punishment,
like not even eye for an eye. They should be
like set on fire, seriously, like the worst thing ever,
(44:45):
because who fucking does that?
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Children?
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I know, So I go.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
I really go back and forth because I go back
and forth because it's like when you're tea, when I'm
teaching the girls. Let's say, for example, like if someone
if someone hits you or someone does this, like the
proper response wouldn't be to tell them to hit the
kid back, because it just doesn't do anything if somebody's
(45:12):
mean to you, like, it doesn't it doesn't solve anything,
like it might temporarily make you feel better. It's sometimes
it's necessary though, because like let's say a kid's bullying
you and hitting you all the time and stuff like
the only the only way to really get them to
stop is to punch him in the face, right, like whatever,
It's just it's just like it I don't think that
(45:33):
it's I don't think that it's like very clear cut,
and you could go back and forth. We had that
interview with Matt man Gino talking all about execution. You
guys should listen to it if you want. God, it's
from like over a year ago at this point now, right,
or almost a year ago. It was last August. Yeah,
so last August. But he wrote a book about executions,
(45:55):
and he's like really versed in it, and and just
how he thinks that, Like really his opinion after knowing
all this stuff is just like the death penalty is
probably terrible, Like it costs a lot of money because
of all the appeals and this and that. And but
but like I said, like if our country has decided
that we're not going to like torture people when we
(46:17):
are going to kill them, then like clearly they're shit
in the bed between the you know what I mean,
between the pentobarbital and now the firing botched firing squad.
Like I don't understand why it's this is so difficult.
I just don't understand well everything anymore. We talk about
this every single day. All right, Let's move on to
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Questions of the Day. Every Friday at the at Mother
Knows Death Instagram account, you guys can head over to
our story and ask us whatever you want. First, Nicole,
you talk about one of your daughters having some physical challenges.
I am grappling with the fact that my son may
have physical delays differences due to birth trauma. How did
you cope with the news? How are you and she doing?
How is her life impacted? Yeah, she has She has
(47:02):
a condition called chronic non infectious osteomilitis, which happened when
hold she now ten. Yeah, maybe when she was seven.
She started saying that her knee hurt and then like
for a week and then I was like, Okay, this
is weird because she doesn't She's not a complaining kid
like that. And I took her to the doctor and
(47:24):
he was like, all right, well, I don't see anything wrong,
but let's just get an X ray. And then it
all just like went downhill from there. It just was
like I was on the way home from her getting
the X ray and they said could she come back
and get the other leg done? And then I already
knew something was wrong. And I guess the scariest part
was is that it took it took a very long
(47:44):
time to get a diagnosis and to start getting treatment
from it before it because it was right at the
at the edge of the pandemic and things like that.
Or during the pandemic, I should say, So that was
the scariest time because I was getting sent doctor to
doctor with her and I didn't the location of the
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knee is very suspicious for cancer sometimes and kids, and
just like the whole thing, Like I just I was
so scared that she had something really terrible wrong. And
what she has is pretty terrible and debilitating, but also
at the same time, it's not cancer and it's not
a death sentence and things like that. So we've been
(48:27):
going through like lots of ups and downs with it.
The first medicine she went on was Humera and that
is a biologic injection I had to give her, and
it it was great, Like we went and got the
scans done and it looked like her her bone wasn't
showing any signs of that anymore. And then all of
a sudden, she started getting this crazy psoriasis all over
(48:48):
her body from the drug. And then one of them
got infected so bad. She got this crazy fungal infection
that wouldn't go away and couldn't be healed, and she
had to get a biopsy and she possibly needed surgery.
Like it was just so crazy, and now it finally
went away, but she has like a huge scar on her,
(49:08):
like that's going to be there forever, like absolutely huge.
It looks like she got burned. It's that bad. So
just dealing with that. And then she got diagnosed with
scoliosis recently, and then she has to wear this back
brace every day, which is uncomfortable. It's a it's a
huge plastic uncomfortable thing, and I just I feel terrible.
Medications we had to give her the last round was
(49:31):
another drug that made her like kind of depressed, which
we didn't realize it, and just injections, and it's just
been a lot. But she's healthy and she's alive, and
she goes to school every day and she has friends
and she gets to play. And so it's like but
like she even said to me last night, like Mommy,
it's getting so hot out. How much longer do I
have to wear this brace? And I just want to
tell her, like years, I feel tired, Like I can't
(49:53):
even break it to her and be like you have
to wear this for years of your life, cause it's
it's just uncomfortable, Like imagine having a piece of plastic
wrapped around your body for she has to wear it
at least eighteen hours a day. That means every night
when she sleeps, and it's just a lot. So the
thing is for you, it's probably worse for you as
a parent than it is for the kid, honestly, Like
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kids are like super resilient, and you just sit there
and you just feel terrible for your kids. So that's
all I could say to you is just like, try
to take the pain on yourself as much as your kid.
Your kid'll be fine. Your kid will get through it.
Like I was crying the night that Lucia when we
came home with this brace, because I was just thinking, like, God,
I don't even want to like sleep with socks on.
(50:35):
I hate being uncomfortable while I'm sleeping, and hear this
kid's gotta wear this thing and she couldn't even turn
in bed. But I could pose the picture for you
guys all or I did. I posted it on my
Instagram and my story last week that she went camping
with her school and she like got to the top
of this rock climbing wall thing and rang the bell
(50:57):
and she was wearing her brace. So like kids are
just super resilient. Things seem like they suck. And then
they get used to it. And honestly, like I feel
like when she gets older, she's gonna be like so
resilient to to like real issues in her life because
of going through this as a kid. Like she's gonna
be like, yeah, that's nothing, Like she'll think nothing is
(51:18):
a problem because of it. So try to look at
it from the positive and and just like you just
like there's nothing you could deal with it. You just
have you have to deal with it, and you have
to help your kid deal with it, and just you know,
it's always good to bribe them sometimes, like what do
like when she had to start getting shots, you know,
I would say, okay, like I'll take you to support
(51:39):
and get whatever you want, or she wanted like one
of these giant uh squish mellow things and just stuff
like that, like you know, from time to time, or
I'll go up to her recently and I was like, listen,
you're doing really good with your brace. I'm so proud
of you. Like let me get you some roblocks money
or something like that, like just little incentives to be
(52:00):
like listen, like I like always let them know that
they're doing a good job.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
And you know, yeah, and of course we're sorry you're
going through that. And obviously, like you can speak from
your experience how hard that is. I think Lucia is
so strong watching her every day, I mean, she doesn't
take any shit from anybody, and that's obvious. And she's
just been so good about the entire thing, you know. Yeah,
and it's and and that's how I was kind of
keyed off that her medication was causing her to have
(52:26):
depression because I was like, she hasn't typically seemed like
this has been bothering her, and now all of a sudden,
like she's acting a little weird. And the medication that
she was on was called Method Trecks eight. It's not
a drug that you would typically think had anything to
do with depression, but sure enough, there's like lots of
papers written on it that it does cause that reaction.
(52:49):
So that's another advice I have to you, is like,
you know, your doctors are gonna want to put the
kid on all these medicines and stuff, and sometimes you
don't really have a choice. Because with us, it was
like she hasked to take these medicines or her leg
might stop growing and then she's going to have to
get surgeries because one of her legs is shorter than
the other leg and this because it was right around
her growth plate. And that's a tough decision to make
(53:11):
as a parent, like, Okay, put my kid on this
hardcore drug, or like her leg's going to stop growing
and there's all that other stuff that comes along with it.
But just like if you if you see something that's abnormal,
sometimes you have to push a little bit more because
your doctors only sees you like once every couple of
months at the appointment where you're with the kid every day,
So like, if their body doesn't seem right or their
(53:32):
mind doesn't seem right, you have to question it all
right too. What plastic surgery have you had and would
you consider getting more? If so? What? Well this question
is for you because I haven't even done both ox
or anything.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah. Well I I had a Tommy talked on and
it was it was awesome. I recommend it. I like, well,
the surgery that I had yesterday was definitely not plastics,
but I would get my neck done probably. Listen, like,
but what if it.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Looks like Kim Kardashian's just like this mech galaxy exactly.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
And this is what scares the shit out of me
because when I look at like, let me tell you
my inspose and halfaway Jesus, like, she looks so freaking
good whatever she had, whatever she had done. And the
same with your girl. Uh, what's the other one, Lindsay Lohan.
Oh yeah, Like if if you could say to me
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like that surgeon is doing your face, I'd be like,
I'll be there tomorrow, just like they're like probably I
know they are, and that's never going to happen to me.
But then like this video has been going around with
Kim Kardashian at the Mechalet and her neck looks terrible,
and I think it's because like she probably had some
of her face lifted, but maybe not her neck. Whatever
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it is, it looks like weird and that scares me.
So then that makes me think, Okay, I probably just
won't ever do anything because I'm too scared, unless I
could definitely find like a perfect surgeon or something. Because
when I look at Anne Hathaway, I'm just like, she
just looks like I like her look because she doesn't
have that gross, like fake bulbous look. Whatever they did
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to her. I think a lot of Uh, it's very popular, right,
now to get this like eyelid surgery, and I think
so many I see so many people with it that
I think it looks so terrible, and I'm like, I
I'll deal with my sagging eyelids. I just don't want
to have that look. I don't know if you know
the look I'm talking about. It just looks like their
eyes are open way too much and they have people
put like way too much filler or something on their cheeks,
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and they just have this very like deer in headlights
kind of a look or something. I don't know. It's
just like I don't I don't want to look like
I've had work done. So I'm open to it, but
I don't have any I don't have any plans for it.
I would say, all right, Las Maria, what does the
queue stand for? Well, it's for my maiden name, Qualitiri.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
And my maiden name is not Anne Jemmy. So I
think somebody last week was like, why don't you just
keep fan Jemmy's because you're both aunt Jemmy. I was
not an aunt Jimmy, so didn't make but it's my
it's my maiden name though, so it's she's she's a quality. Yeah,
like it's it's my last name, my first last name. Yeah,
unconventional to not have my dad's name as my maiden name,
(56:22):
but it was for your maiden name. So I really
liked my last name, so I wanted to keep it
in some capacity. And there's you know, very few Maria
qualities in the world, but there was many Maria Kanes
in the world. So it's like, what can I do
to kind of, you know, stand like stand out. So
I did that.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah, I'm middle name, like we had. It is hard
when you're when you're getting married and changing your last
name because our last name was very cool and unique,
a unique letter, so whenever we needed to get monogram stuff,
it's like a Q as coal and it's it is
like a really unusual thing when you're gonna change your
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last name. But then, like Anne Jemmy was equally as
cool to me, so I was okay with it. I
don't know if Gabe's last name was Kane, would we
might have had to have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
I mean, you guys always joke that Kine is playing
whatever you're saying.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
The kids Kane. The kids say Kane is plain.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Listen, my last name is great because it's very neutral
and everybody could pronounce it and spell it, whereas quality
people see the queue and they're just like, I don't
even know where to go from here. It was nuts.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
People pronounced my last name wrong all the time. It's yeah,
it is crazy, but yeah, I know it is easy
because then if you're just sitting there, you could just
be like, oh, it's Kane, Like it's it's easy. You
don't have to explain yourself or whatever. But but yeah,
so she kept the cue. I probably should have too,
but whatever, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
I mean, I liked that last name and I wanted
to keep some part of it because you know it,
it's funny. I referred to my name and just like
the rebrand because I had to like switch everything and
now I were like, hey, initials and stuff. But it
is funny because you're like this whole identity for how
el is that when I got married like twenty seven,
so twenty seven years, I'm like this whole identity and
then all of a sudden, you have just like a
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different name for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
I'm not into like so I was into like wearing.
I used to have this really remember that cool bracelet
I had from anthro forever before it broke that had
like a really cool Q and cursive on it, Like,
I don't I won't do an A now because it's
a boring letter. So I'm like over the monogram. It's
kind of like whatever.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Well maybe I'm just into it right now because it's
like new for me, you know, and Q is like interesting,
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Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Thanks
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we
are going to be talking about a political commentator who
fainted on live TV, the latest TikTok trends that are
causing injuries and deaths, a man doing the unthinkable because
he is insecure about his penisize, a lover's quarrel in
an infectious disease lab getting denied a passport because of
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drastic changes in your appearance, and of course we have
to talk about the botched firing squad. All that and
more on today's episode. First, I want to say I
apologize we're not having video this week because I just
had surgery yesterday and I looked like quasimoto. So We're
gonna take a break from video for this week. And
(01:05):
I'll tell you guys more about that a little bit
later on. But let's get started with this political commentator
who fainted on the air. All right, so last week,
political commentator Cameron Canzie. She was doing a segment on
Fox News at Night and halfway through a sentence, she
appeared to lose her train of thought and then passed out.
All right, so this is vaso vagel syncope. It's just fainting.
(01:28):
It's normal. It happens all the time. I actually didn't
happen too, like a congresswoman or something this week too.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah. I was gonna say, how nuts is this? Because
a senator also passed out while doing a live press
conference last week.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
All right, so it happens. It could definitely happen when
you have like an emotional trigger. And just as a
person that's been going on stage in front of a
lot of people, I think being on a national broadcast
on TV would really make me freak out. So this
is standing on stage in front of a bunch of people,
Like those types of things could cause it to happen.
(02:03):
And what happens is your heart rate and blood pressure
drops suddenly and it reduces the oxygenated blood that's going
to your brain, and then you temporarily lose consciousness. I mean,
you've heard of this happening all the time. The real
reason that I wanted to bring up this story was
because the video went viral. And if you watch it,
the guy his name is Jonathan Hunt, he's the host
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of the show. He's sitting there and watches this chick
like pass out and fall to the floor and he
doesn't even get up to help her. It's so freaking weird.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
No, he basically he like watches her fall out of
the chair under the ground and just goes, oh goodness,
we're gonna get her some help. Why don't you get
out of your chair and over.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, Like he's just like hardcore, like the show must
go on, like no matter what, and really, if you faint,
it's not harmful at all. But like the thing that
could cause harm is if you fall out of a
chair and you know, hit your head on a table
or on the floor or something like that. Like he
literally watched it go down and just it just was
so weird that that he was just trying to keep
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his colds for the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It just was.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It was just the weirdest human reaction ever. If you
guys didn't see the video, so make sure you check
that out, because I just don't understand what's going on there,
even if a producer.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Was in his earpiece and was like, do not get
up just ending yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Like you're just like you're a human being, like this
woman just fell in front of you and you don't
know what's wrong with her? And he's not a medical person.
He doesn't he doesn't just think like oh she just whatever.
Like it's just it's just a very weird reaction.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
It was also weird because it was very like sleeping beauty,
like like she was just like talking and then her
makeup is perfect and she just so slowly goes down
and I was like, this is the wildest looking thing ever.
I feel horrible for her. I mean, because you know,
the clip went so viral of her passing out. I
do find it funny. He's getting a lot of criticism
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because does any human that just saw somebody fall. I mean,
you've already established you laugh at people at fall.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, because it's funny, but not when people are It's
funny when people trip and ball, not when they're like
passing out and having a medical issue. No, I don't know.
Like I watched the video, you know this is this
is how it goes now. You watch these viral videos
online and then you like immediately go to the comments
to be like, Okay, I need justification that I'm thinking
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the same thing everyone else is thinking. And sure enough,
all these people were just like like nobody cares that
the girl passed out. It's like whatever, everybody cared about
the guy's reaction to it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So, I mean, it is just so absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
All right, So let's talk about this. There's this woman
that has a podcast that's called Nip Tuck. I assume
she talks about plastic surgery because this story is about
her having lots of plastic surgery.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah. This chick, Ashley Stobart, she's an influencer and the
co host of this nip talk podcast you talked about.
It's actually called like nip took what the dot dot
dot U.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh, that's kind of clever.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah. So she had a lot of controversy because she
decided to get a facelift at thirty four, but she
said it was due to sagging skin she had as
a result of filler dissolver. But she said she had
so much work done that her passport ended up getting
denied on a recent trip. Well, you know, like I
don't know if you remember this, this one video or
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that was going around a couple years ago of Kylie
Jenner's face looking like very old and there was a
lot of people that do injections that were saying that
that's a possibility. I mean, like I could see, I
could see that that would happen, because it's kind of
it might essentially be the same as weight loss, like
if you're if you're heavy and then you lose weight,
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but you have that skin that's stretched out, you know
what I mean? Like yeah, because people are getting so much,
like it's not just like a little bit. There's some
people that just have so much in their face it
makes I don't know, I don't I don't think it
looks attractive at all. I don't really understand it. But
people could do whatever they want to do whatever, and
(06:06):
like if she wants to get a facelift and do
all this stuff, she could do it. I mean, people
do that all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
But I guess, I guess the crazy thing is is
that like, for example, right now, I told you guys,
I look like Quasimoto right Like I can't even open
my phone right now because it's like, who the hell
is this person? Because my face is deformed?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But like, I guess that happens with the facial recognition
technology too. At the airport when they're checking passports and
stuff to be like, yeah, this isn't the same person
because you're changing your face structure when you get surgery
like that, and it's it's just something that I don't know.
I guess I never really thought about, but apparently other
people are having this issue too.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah. I do find it interesting with a passport though,
because you know, like they last for ten years even
when you're like a little kid. So I'm just like,
how do you get a passport when you're like the
girl's age right? Think about dude, listen to hitting one.
So this is interesting though, Like you know how there's
for those people of you that have iPhones, there's this
thing inside of the photos where you have pictures of
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people you commonly take pictures of. So in my first couple,
it's like Me, Gabe, the girls, you, Ricky, momm Louie,
like just people that are in all the pictures. And
you could click on a picture of Lucia's face, right,
and then it'll pull up all of the pictures of
Lucia in my phone. She's she's ten years old right now,
(07:33):
And when I put that, when I hit that, it
pulls up her picture from me and Gabe having her
in the hospital. Wow, Like it it recognized whatever it's reading.
It recognizes the difference, so I could see why they
don't make you get it changed, because if it's able,
I just think that that's really trippy, don't you. I
was just in there recently and I'm like, I can't
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believe this thing recognizes that this is the same person. Well,
I hate the face recognition software because I first was
really bothered by Like for the iPhone, it's awesome, obviously,
but I was first really bothered by it when we
were in Disney a couple of years ago, and then
all of a sudden on the app, pictures of us
on certain rides were populating, and I'm like, how the
fuck does this know it's me?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, I don't like that either, So so that's it.
It's really cool because the woman said, I guess in
the article that there were people that work in this
situation for either border patrol or at customs, and they
said that the facial recognition is not the be all
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end all. If that doesn't recognize you, then real person,
a real person will come out and start kind of
interviewing you. Sometimes they ask you for credit cards. And
this one woman had said that a guy came in
and was staring at her face and it was super awkward,
like staring in her eyes to see if it was
actually her on the passport, which I could imagine would
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be really uncomfortable. But I guess that if you have
a lot of surgery or a lot of filler in
your face or something, that's something you need to consider
if you're traveling.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, I mean, I guess I didn't even think about it.
And then one of the co hosts said she also
knew a person who was trying to go to Turkey
and that that person also got so much work done
that they wouldn't let them in the country because they
they couldn't get approved with the passport.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's it's it's interesting though, because sometimes, like even yesterday
when I went to the surgeon, like they said, okay,
we need your ID and your insurance and all that stuff,
and I'm like sitting there with no makeup on and
glasses and the picture of my driver's license is no glasses,
and I'm wearing like a ton of makeup. And it
was actually when I was pregnant with Lilian, so it's
twelve years old, and I was like significantly heavier because
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I was ready to give birth to her. I think
I was like two hundred and some pounds, so my
face is bigger, and it's like, I don't even look
anything like that either. It's kind of a stretch to
be like, oh, this is the same person, you know,
so it had there has to be more than just
a facial id for things like that.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh yeah, totally. It's funny though, because this girl on
the podcast was saying she was even trying to pull
up photos from during the surgery. The show was really her.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
But god, that's so embarrassing, I know. All right, So
let's talk about these TikTok trends that have come up
this week again. Every single all of these TikTok trends
are in general, like going to cause a person to
get seriously injured or killed. I feel like that's what
we could pretty much say from right now. I guess
there's good ones that go around like this. My kids
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are trying to tell me about this new ice bucket
challenge thing, and I was like, that's not new.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, that's better on forever.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, but I guess it's not about als anymore. It's
about bringing awareness to mental health. And I'm just like,
couldn't you have thought of something else because like you're
taking away the als challenge. I don't know, I don't
understand like what the change was, but whatever. And you know,
my kids aren't even on TikTok, but whatever they see YouTube,
they go to school whatever. I mean, like everybody does
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these trends. So the first one is like, I don't
know what idiot came up with this and how this
stuff goes viral, But it's like, oh, let's stick random
items into the USB port of our computers are school
issued chromebook computers, and see if we can cause an
electrical short circuit and a potential fire. Like this sounds
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like a great idea. Yeah, like not only are you
destroying school property, but you're basically causing a harm to
everybody around you. Not to mention, don't those things have
the lithium ion batteries in them that are extremely dangerous
when they're on fire, like yeah, blow up, Yeah, they're
extremely dangerous. And of course there's been several fire departments
that have actually put out warnings because they've had to
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go to schools to put out fires that are caused
by this. And this is like stid kids sticking on
like paper clips or anything in there that shouldn't be
in there because they could puncture the battery. So I
just don't I don't understand like how kids' minds work.
But the other one going around is this other TikTok
trend that's called ding dong ditch prank that is also
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not new.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That ding dong.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Literally isn't forever.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Like so it's you just go up to somebody's house
and you ring the doorbell and run away. Okay, that's
that's fine.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, but the problem is that they're videoing it, so
they're taking way longer than like the classic eighties, you
know prank where you're just truly going up to someone's house,
ringing the doorbell and running away. They're taking all this
extra time to record the videos, and they're doing it like,
you know, I feel like when I was younger, people
would do it at like what like eight o'clock at night,
not three in the morning like in this case.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, So, so what happened this guy, this twenty seven
year old guy thinks his house is getting broken into.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Well, he told police he thought his house was getting
broken into, But I'm gonna say, based on the charges,
they might have found something different.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, this is the thing though, Like I'm thinking right now,
if you're in a if you live in a place
where you're allowed to have a gun to protect your
home and somebody at now, these kids were doing this
at three o'clock in the morning, is like ringing my
doorbell and there's a ruckus outside. I'm gonna be scared
that somebody's trying to break into my house, That's right.
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So the guy, I guess, the guy thinks someone's breaking
into his house and shoots at the kids, and one
of the kids gets killed. He's dead, Like a kid
is dead because of this. And now this guy, he yeah,
and I don't know what happened, Like at first he
didn't get in trouble, but then he got arrested and
charged with second degree murder malicious wounding in two other
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accounts of use of a firearm. So, like Maria was saying,
I'm sure there's more to the story, but like I'm
just saying, just for this guy, like he definitely shouldn't
have shot and killed somebody, But at the same time,
he was probably a sleep and at three am woken
up and scared, and like now his whole life has
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changed too. He obviously didn't make the right decision, but
like he was just sitting there all innocently and these
people just showed up at his house and started trouble.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Well, I mean, you're also I guess, varying states to state,
Like I don't think you're just allowed to shoot somebody
that's breaking in depending where you live. This happened in
Spotsylvania County, Virginia. That sounds like a totally fake place,
but that's.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
How I always see that. When we're taking road trips,
I always see all these weird bergs in Vania's and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I mean, I just was talking to you the other
day about how you know, like these solicitors come up
to your door, and I can't believe more of those
people don't end up getting shot because it's not the
nineteen fifties. People get very scared when you come up
on their property without announcing yourself first. And sometimes they're
coming at night when it's dark, so I'm like, it
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always scares the shit out of me. It will be
like nine o'clock in the morning, someone will not go
my door, and I'm like, I don't like this, you know,
So I can't believe there's not more problems with people
like this. And then you have these teenagers just not
thinking things through. It's in the middle of the night,
they're scaring the shit out of people who are sleeping.
I obviously, like I don't think they obviously like deserved
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what happened to them because it's so horrible and you
were just doing an innocent, little kid thing. But they're
just not thinking about it. And then you have this
guy who's just panicking because he doesn't know what's going on,
according to what he told police.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So what I don't understand if you have kids that
are in high school, I just don't understand at any
time why they should be out at three o'clock in
the morning, even if it's on the weekend, Like not
no good is coming from that. That's when all crimes happen,
is at three o'clock in the morning, Like are there?
I mean, I understand kids sneak out, trust me. Like
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my husband tells me when he was younger, like his
mom would go to bed and he would leave for
the whole night. And I'm like, oh my god, if
my kids ever did that. But I never did that.
But I maybe boys are more likely to do that girl.
I don't know if girls do it either all the time.
So like you can't sit there and totally talk shit
on the parents because if the kids knock out, like
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what are you gonna do? But I also just think,
like why are they out at three in the morning,
you know what I mean? It's just no good's gonna
come from that.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I mean, this isn't really relevant to this particular case
because the ding Gung ditch has been around forever, but
to the last one where these kids are starting fires.
I'm just trying to think of, like when these trends
became so dangerous and they all seem attached to TikTok
because when I was younger, I mean, social media was
around just as much as it is today, and we
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had Wow, I wouldn't say I wouldn't say that, though
it really was around in some capacity, Like we had
YouTube at the very least, and Twitter and Facebook were
just starting to get big when I was in high school.
So I'm just thinking about that, And there was definitely
like viral videos and trends people were doing, but it
was like you would go to McDonald's and grab the
ice cream cone upside down, you weren't setting your school
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computer on.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Felt, but when you were younger that was there was
like that tide pod challenge, Like dumb bullshit. I remember
having to tell you, like these conversations you have to
have with your kids are ridiculous, Like I just have
to sit down and be like you, guys know that
you should never stick like a paper clip or something
metal into the USB board of your chromebook. I think
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kids are probably doing it because they think like they
could get out of class for the day or something.
I'm not sure what the motive is, but you could
get in a lot of trouble, especially for starting a fire,
vandalism and everything like that. Plus you're we had assign
like all these contracts and shit, when the kids use
the chromebooks, you know that we're not gonna damage them
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and this and that. So well, the school said they
could face criminal charges of vandalism and arson in addition
to possibly getting suspended or expelled, So there's serious consequences.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I don't know, Like, I just watched this really good
documentary about Twitter. I think it's called Breaking the Bird,
and I think it's really interesting on like the cultural
impact of social media and how when they made that platform.
They really didn't think anything bad would come out of it,
and of course you will always have bad faith. Actor.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
This is what's wrong with with every single one of
these technologies, and that's what's actually alarming, because these people
are so brilliant that they're able to code and just
do these amazing things, but they're not smart enough to
think about any of the bad stuff that people will
do with it. And it's just it's starting to get
on my nerves, honestly. And we have a story coming
(18:40):
up either today's episode or tomorrow's episode about some crazy
technology that they're doing too, and you're just kind of like, okay,
how like number one, why do we need to do this?
And number two, like how I mean social media has
definitely changed the world and it's made things a lot
better in some way, but at the same time, if
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we never had it, we would have never known and
it would have been fine. And I feel like, honestly,
like at this point, I think it's doing more harm
than than good. So well, yeah, you know, it's not
only just that stuff. It's just like causing a lot
of division and just like rehashing issues that were semi
resolved at some point and just it's just like it's
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just it's getting really gross. Honestly.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well you also noticed, like metas always like we're trying
to implement positive mental health changes. Okay, well, why all
of a sudden on notifications, does it tell me how
many followers somebody that commented on my post has and
now people have to worry about that, like you're making
it worse.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh yeah it is. And and like we've we haven't,
like Maria and I haven't really told you about all
the problems that we have on social media, like we
have really never told you the extent of it. And
I mean we bitch about it a lot, Like we
bitch about it a lot, but we don't talk about
like how how we're on the phone, like I I
was on the phone for hours with them about the
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about the posts and this and that, and just like
they're they want to make Instagram a safe place and
my videos are too graphic, but that they're trying to
tell me that, But then the people who have voluntarily
subscribed to my page can't see my stuff and there's
no shortage of like serious porn on there, which is
(20:24):
completely accessible to children. I mean, and then they're concerned
about children, and then I'm just like, children shouldn't even
be have access to all this stuff. It's just so crazy.
So it's just it's just like so gross. I just
don't even I don't even know what to say at
this point about it. But let's let's just go on
to another story because I'm just gonna get agro and
(20:45):
start like whatever, Like it is what it is, and
this is like you have to live in this world
now where this is why I don't want my kids
to have that. But unfortunately, like other people that my
kids are friends with that they have it. So it's
like they're always going to be exposed. You can't you
can't hide them from it, and all you have to
do is just like read the news often listen to
(21:07):
our show, of course, and we will update you on
the craziest things that are going on, so you could
just sit there and talk to your kids about it.
I honestly, just because there's just so much more of
a chance with accidents in boys and men than there
are with with girls and women. This is like I
feel like both of these things are probably mostly not
(21:27):
even applicable to girls. I feel like this is commonly
a thing that's going to happen with with boys with
the like, I just don't see girls being interested in
like setting their computer on fire or like running up
to someone's door.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
And well there will always be a few, but just
probably statistics.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Statistically though, it's the accidental injuries and deaths to happen
way more frequently with with men than women. So but yeah,
so let's go. Let's go on to a more juici
or subject, which is a guy that was in secure
about his penises started doing something very unusual.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, in Scotland, this anisthesiologist. He's been sentenced to jail
time after admitting to hiding cameras in his work bathroom
to compare his penis size to his co workers.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Like, so, so I guess after this he gets arrested
in all this stuff and then he says that he
was diagnosed with body dysmorphia because apparently no.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
First he said he was diagnosed with gigantism and suspected
suspect that he was diagnosed with suspected gigantism which caused
the body dysmorphia when he was a teenager, and that
was the reasoning that he possibly had a small penis
or something, so like, let's back up, I don't know
(22:46):
if you ever get diagnosed with suspected gigantism, it is
there is or it isn't, And it's a growth hormone
issue when you're a kid. So you you've seen people
like Andre the Giant and things like that that people
that have this. So if it happens before your growth
plates and your bones fused when you're a child, that's gigantism,
whereas if it happens as an adult or after they fuse,
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that's acromegle. So I'm not sure exactly which condition he
had if he's saying that he was semi diagnosed or
suspected diagnosed as a teenager. But the growth hormone could
cause an abnormal growth, especially in heights. So this is
when you see these people that are like can be
up to eight feet tall.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It also causes their heart to get larger and other
organs to get larger, so in theory, like their penis
could also be larger too, but that doesn't always happen.
So if his penis was like a normal size but
he was seven or eight foot tall, that might look
disproportionate and might make him think that his penis looks smaller.
I don't know. But regardless if you have this or not,
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because there's plenty of dudes that have this condition, Like
that doesn't give you the right to start filming your
friends and your coworkers to see if your penis is
the same size as theirs.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
No, of course not. So he ended up hiding recording
devices in air fresheners and a smoke alarm in the
bathroom of his spare bedroom and his house, in addition
to the bathrooms at his work. He claimed he recorded
thirty different people and used the footage to compare himself
to other men, and he committed the acts between November
twenty twenty and August twenty twenty three. He was only
(24:19):
caught when one victim became suspicious of two air fresheners
which appeared to be facing the toilet and shower and
then open them up and found the devices.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, and also like why was he was filming some
women too?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Like so, like your your whole entire argument is just
like thrown out the window. You're just like a creepy
PERV Dude's that's all you are. So's he's in trouble though, right.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Well, he was suspended from his work as a doctor.
I'm sorry, you need to have everything removed. Who is
going to trust an anesthesiologist after some creepy behavior like this?
He was sent in stay eighteen months, probation for nine
months after the release, and then he's only going to
be a registered sex offender for ten years.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Why is there a limit? Yeah, I don't know whether
it's a limit. I was just gonna say that, like,
I feel like that could be the biggest deterrent yet
that you will be forever labeled as a sex offender
for the rest of your life if you do something.
But you know that all the people that protect criminals
will be against that. We actually have We could talk
about that later with another story we have. I mean,
(25:21):
so he's thirty four years old, so he really like
when do you think he finished school? It has so
he hasn't really been a doctor all that long. So
you just went through all that education. Where what country
is this in? Did it Scotland? Yeah? I don't know
what they're because they might not have the same system,
because I know that there are some countries that, like
(25:42):
I believe and I could be wrong, So don't don't
quote me on this. But when I was when I
was working with a lot of residents and stuff, some
would like come from China and they would become a
resident in our residency program. But I thought that they
told me that they went right to medical school after
high school, so they skip that whole like four year
(26:03):
college degree in between high school and medical school that
you would typically do in America. So which would mean
that those people would be eligible to become doctors four
years earlier than Americans would. So I don't know, but yes,
like you're saying, like if he did the traditional uh
(26:24):
graduate high school, go to four years of undergrad four
years of medical school, and then do a residency in
Anesesion everything like that, then yes, he would be like
a very young new attending physician at that point. So
I mean, regardless, it doesn't matter, like and that's actually
even creepier because a person that is willing to record
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people like that, it's scary that they have the knowledge
to put a person to sleep and possibly do things
to them when they're asleep, and access to those medications too,
So yeah, how could you have any trust in somebody
like that? That should be And like I said, that's
in Scotland. Like, I think if that happened in America,
that he would lose his medical license forever and that
(27:08):
would be the end of the story, especially it was
being done at the workplace and all this stuff. But
I don't really know how things go down, but he
should for sure. This episode's brought to you by the
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(27:30):
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and in this one we go into depth of the
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I mean I personally think that that one's my favorite
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Department of Health and Human Services, which I'll referred to
as j says going forward, has put a pause on
(28:34):
research at a major high risk infectious disease lab due
to multiple safety violations. And the best part of this
is the investigation stemmed from a lover's spat between two
of the researchers. Yeah, so let's first talk about labs. Okay,
because I've worked in a lab my well since I've
been nineteen years old, and there's all there's there's there's
(28:55):
basically four different kinds. They're called biosafety levels for labs.
So you have type one, which is like that's doing infections,
working with infections that really don't cause disease in healthy adults.
It might be just like opportunistic ones or ones that
just don't really get most people sick anyway. And then
you have level two, which can cause if accidentally inhaled
(29:19):
or swallow. Level three, which is even more severe cases
like airborne things like TB. So I would say, like
the hospital microbiology lab, for example, would be a biosafety
level two, and the three would be used was a
special room that we used for doing specimens that had
potential TB. So that's that's a level three. And then
(29:42):
you have the level four, which is what we're talking
about now with this case, which is diseases that don't
have any known vaccines or therapies available. So even though
COVID has a vaccine, we all know that that doesn't
like really work to prevent it. So that's not considered
to be a legitimate treatment as far as what went
(30:06):
down that there are things that could treat people, but
for the most part, it still can be deadly for
certain type of patients, but also disease that are really
serious like ebola, marburg last of fever, all these different things.
So these labs are sometimes they're in specific rooms that
(30:27):
are dedicated. Actually they sometimes have isolated zones in specific
buildings that are just made for that. You see a
lot of it. If you've ever seen like the movie
Outbreak or something. You see people going in with these
special suits on, and they have to wear special kinds
of suits dedicated for this. They have to shower as
soon as they exit the lab. They have to go
through a series of procedures. They have to be trained
(30:49):
in a certain way to deal with these organisms, just
because if they get released, like it's a problem. And
now that we're talking about that, like especially it's been
in the new is that it's more than likely COVID
came from a situation like this, that it was released
from some kind of a lab. People are now like
really taking this seriously because you see what happened when
(31:11):
COVID happened here, right, So we don't want things like
that ever being exposed, especially when there's there's no treatments
for these things.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
So apparently, like Maria was saying, that there was this
lover's quarrel and what happened was one of the individual's
poked holes in one of these protective suits that the
other person was putting on to work with one of
these deadly bacteria or viruses. And it's just so crazy
to think that this is happening in a situation like this,
(31:42):
that like this person got fired, right, fine, they should go.
They should be arrested for attempted murder, and even more
because they could have potentially harmed other people if the
person that they were having this lover's quarrel with actually
got infected. With one of these things.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Well, again, like how hard do you work to get
into a facility like this and then you're gonna sabotage
your entire career and possibly have criminal charges because you
had a lover spet. It's ridiculous. And it's not the
only incident they've had. They had one as recently, another
situation as recently as November, so there's multiple.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
It's psycho dude, Like if you're gonna be poking holes
and like, let's say you know somebody is working with
ebola and you're gonna go poke holes in their outfit.
The only reason you're doing that is because you want
them to catch it. And like those types of things
being released, especially like into the United States where we
don't even have that, and how easily it could spread.
(32:43):
It's just and how deadly it is. It's just like
you were thinking about this ahead of time and you
were trying to kill this person, and it's really gross
that that happens. But this is the thing, like you
were saying, yes, these people are sometimes educated, sometimes even
PhD level microbiologists, epidemiologists and things like that, but everybody
(33:07):
is just still a human and they you know that
you could say the number one cause of murder or
the reason the motive for people murdering people is over love.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's a known thing from the beginning of time. And
it doesn't matter how educated you are. I mean, like, look,
the guy we just talked about was a doctor and
he was still committing crimes. Like, you're still a human,
you know, and you have flaws like that, and unfortunately
this could affect all of us, which is super scary.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, I just think of these two nerds in this
lover's quarrel, right, Oh, they're total nerds. Instead of like
shooting you or stabbing you or poisoning you something obvious,
she's like, I'm gonna poke tiny holes in your protective
gear because this person is smart enough to know the
effect that's going to have. But they're like, the individual
has since been fired, Okay, what about some criminal charges
because this could have been the severe harm to society
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and maybe this person shouldn't really be like walking around
with access to all these diseases. It's very concerning. So
the HHS has put them on pause. All research at
the facility will come to a halt and access will
be limited to essential personnel. The director has also been
put on leave, and it's unclear how long the pause
will remain in effect. It's just so concerning that this
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is going down in a place like this.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I know, but I mean, like, like I said, they're
humans and that's I mean, it's total like oh like
nerd party, right, but probably but whatever, like it, they're
the ones you gotta watch out for because they're smart
and they could They're not going to do something as
simple as that. And who knows what you'll ever find
(34:43):
out about COVID and stuff like that, like what actually
went down with that and how that got released, But
like the bottom line is is that that could happen,
and it's freaking we don't want that to happen. Ever again, no,
definitely not, especially like you're saying, with one of these
more severe illnesses, like I can't even freaking imagine if
something like that happened. Well, that's the thing too, because
(35:05):
COVID I've been saying this from the beginning, like COVID
was COVID was the perfect one because it disabled our
country enough to cause it to recab it, but not
enough to kill a lot of people. And it did
kill a lot of people, but it really didn't. When
you think about the capability of other kinds of viruses
(35:26):
and especially viral infections, it just it didn't come anywhere
close to being lethal like some other things are. So
you have to there's always these fear that you like,
bioterrorism and stuff like that. And I personally think, and
I've thought this since the beginning, that I think that
(35:47):
COVID was an act of bioterrorism. But we don't need
to get into that right now, but there but for sure,
like you think COVID was bad, there's going to there's
a potential for other viruses to kill everyone, not just
like certain populations or demographics of people like, but everyone,
children and adults, higher death rate, and it's just it
(36:09):
could be really really bad. So and them working on
these things, they have to be like the top tier
people in the world that don't let like Petty Lover's
quarrels get in their way, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely unreal. So when Lauren was
on last time, we had talked about this firing squad
death in South Carolina, and now another one has occurred.
But they're saying this guy was shot two times and
his autopsy results are indicating that he didn't die right away,
suffering about thirty to sixty seconds after his death. So
(36:43):
this firing squad was consisted of three shooters, but they
only found two bullet holes in the in the person
that got shot, which is kind of alarming because they're like,
all right, well, where was the third one? So some
people are trying to say, oh, well, maybe two people
shot at the same time and it went through one hole,
(37:04):
which is like, no, that absolutely did not happen. I
thought not all of them fired sometimes so nobody or
they fired, but one was a blank, so nobody really
knew who was the killer.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Well, but the thing is is that I don't think
that was the case here. I think they said that
there was ammunition in all three weapons, so someone someone
didn't shoot, which is possible because I guess you could
imagine that. I don't know how they pick, like who
is going to how do they pick who is going
to be the people that shoot, and how they pick
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the people in general, like what are their qualifications. I
have no idea about any of that stuff. But maybe
someone like chickened out last minute and just decided that
they weren't going to be the one that killed this guy,
like they had this last minute change of heart and thought,
I don't want to do this. But I actually just
cannot believe that you're high. You have a firing squad
to kill someone from to execute someone that has committed
(38:03):
a crime that you're not picking like a perfect sharp shooter.
There are people in this world that are excellent at
getting targets. They're saying that they did the autopsy on
this person and the heart was missed, like it was
largely missed. They said that there was damage to the
liver and other internal organs. And I guess we would say,
(38:27):
like this is if you want to talk about cause,
like first there's all this like should we do this
or not? And then oh we should do it humanly
or not? If you want to take this specific example, though,
I don't know why we're so concerned about this guy
suffering for thirty to sixty seconds he murdered three people,
including a police officer, Like did he care about them
(38:47):
suffering when he killed those three people? No? I mean,
And the interesting thing is in this specific article that
we cite, the whole thing is about like compassion for
this guy who who like suffered getting executed when they
didn't say one thing about what he actually was getting
executed for. So let's let's talk about that a little bit.
(39:10):
He murdered a man following a drug deal gone wrong. Okay, fine,
and then he robbed and killed a twenty nine year
old convenience store clerk who had nothing to do with anything.
So this guy just died because he was in the
wrong place at the wrong time. And then two days
later he carjacked demand and stole his car and fled,
so that's also scary for that guy. And then he
murdered a fifty six year old off duty police officer
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whose body then he doused in diesel fuel and then burned.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, like we're not talking about somebody that did it
like a minor crime. This is a murderer.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, and he had a whole other string of lifelong
crime whatever. But regardless, if we decided in this country
that we're supposed to induce the least pain on these people,
then that's the decision and we need to respect that right.
So why on earth? And obviously we talked we've talked
about this before on this show, about lethal injection and
(40:03):
like the autops, so there's always an autopsy down on
someone when whenever they are are killed by the state,
there will always be an autopsy done just to document
everything and to see what happened. And when you talk
about lethal injection from pentobarbital, these autopsies have shown that
these people have pulmonary edema, which is fluid that is
(40:25):
accumulating in the lungs, which shows that there's this sense
of sensation similar to drowning that they experience for up
to ten minutes before they actually die. So they're suffering there.
So then they thought, okay, well let's do firing squad
because if we shoot someone straight in the heart, then
like they'll die instantly, right, No, they get people that
miss the heart. So I mean, right there, you're just
(40:48):
kind of like, how is this such a shit show?
Like all of the sharpshooters in the world, you cannot
find somebody that could just shoot this guy in the heart, right,
And so what happened was he gets shot in the
liver and other organs and he's alive for thirty to
sixty seconds. Because what happens is like let's say you
shoot somebody in the liver right and you last rate
(41:09):
one of their major arteries. Like, yeah, they're gonna start
bleeding internally, and that's if you hit a major artery, honestly,
but they're gonna start bleeding internally, but like their heart's
still gonna be beating perfectly fine, They're just gonna have
less blood coming through. They're gonna be completely conscious, aware,
and in pain the entire time. So and like this
(41:32):
looks really bad because this was not that this is
not an instantaneous death like they thought it was gonna be.
And observers there said that he was squirming and he
was moaning and complaining, and it's just kind of like listen,
like if we've made the decision that this is what
we're going to do, then like I don't understand why
it's such a shit show.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, I think somebody didn't do their job. I'm also
surprised they only shoot one time, that there's only two
bullets that went in. I just don't think that seems
effect that. I don't know, something clearly went wrong.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
It's just like you think about hunters can get like
a deer that's running, Like you have a guy that's
sitting in front of you with a clear eye and
he's not a moving target, like it just I really
just can't believe it. So that makes me wonder, I
really want to know, like what are what are the
qualifications of these people that are doing this? Is this
(42:23):
just like some guard that works there or are they
I feel like they would get people that are that
are clear sharp shooters. Now, this guy's lawyer is saying
that he was there when his client got executed and
he thought that the target on his chest was a
little bit too low, which is interesting. Like I just
(42:44):
I just really don't even understand any of this honestly,
So it is it is messed up because like if
if our country has said we're not doing this, then
like you can't do that. It's it's just more messed
up because it's a shit show. But honestly, like you know,
you could say in our opinion, like let's say, for example,
(43:05):
a guy like raped and killed a kid, Like most
people would agree, like, well, we don't care if somebody
else rapes and kills that guy, he should suffer just
like his victim suffered and stuff. But like that that's
not what we do here, which is probably a good thing.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
But I like, but like who's being sentenced to death?
That isn't a murdered you know what.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I mean, people have been sentenced to death that aren't murderers.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
So that's the talking about today.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I'm saying people in the past have been accused of
crimes that they didn't commit and have been this This
is why it's so controversial because like, unless you're one
hundred percent sure, which I'm assuming that it's becoming the
case more and more today that people are figuring that out.
But even so, unless I don't know, unless you have
(43:53):
video of it or evidence of it, you can't. That's
why it's so controversial because people think, like what I mean,
there's been people that have been executed that have been innocent,
and and that's why people are against it. But like
if we know for certain that this guy did all
this stuff, then like then yeah, I mean, like I
(44:15):
don't I mean, you set, you killed a person and
then put fuel on his body and burned his body.
Like imagine how his family feels.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Well. Yeah, And I said this like last week about
that woman who tied her kid to the bed and
was beating her cat food and let her pee all
over the bed. And you know, think about Ruby Frankie,
who's rubbing Cayenne Pepper and her kid's wounds after she
beat him. Like to me, people like that deserve worse punishment,
like not even eye for an eye. They should be
like set on fire, seriously, like the worst thing ever,
(44:45):
because who fucking does that?
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Children?
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I know, So I go.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
I really go back and forth because I go back
and forth because it's like when you're tea, when I'm
teaching the girls. Let's say, for example, like if someone
if someone hits you or someone does this, like the
proper response wouldn't be to tell them to hit the
kid back, because it just doesn't do anything if somebody's
(45:12):
mean to you, like, it doesn't it doesn't solve anything,
like it might temporarily make you feel better. It's sometimes
it's necessary though, because like let's say a kid's bullying
you and hitting you all the time and stuff like
the only the only way to really get them to
stop is to punch him in the face, right, like whatever,
It's just it's just like it I don't think that
(45:33):
it's I don't think that it's like very clear cut,
and you could go back and forth. We had that
interview with Matt man Gino talking all about execution. You
guys should listen to it if you want. God, it's
from like over a year ago at this point now, right,
or almost a year ago. It was last August. Yeah,
so last August. But he wrote a book about executions,
(45:55):
and he's like really versed in it, and and just
how he thinks that, Like really his opinion after knowing
all this stuff is just like the death penalty is
probably terrible, Like it costs a lot of money because
of all the appeals and this and that. And but
but like I said, like if our country has decided
that we're not going to like torture people when we
(46:17):
are going to kill them, then like clearly they're shit
in the bed between the you know what I mean,
between the pentobarbital and now the firing botched firing squad.
Like I don't understand why it's this is so difficult.
I just don't understand well everything anymore. We talk about
this every single day. All right, Let's move on to
(46:39):
Questions of the Day. Every Friday at the at Mother
Knows Death Instagram account, you guys can head over to
our story and ask us whatever you want. First, Nicole,
you talk about one of your daughters having some physical challenges.
I am grappling with the fact that my son may
have physical delays differences due to birth trauma. How did
you cope with the news? How are you and she doing?
How is her life impacted? Yeah, she has She has
(47:02):
a condition called chronic non infectious osteomilitis, which happened when
hold she now ten. Yeah, maybe when she was seven.
She started saying that her knee hurt and then like
for a week and then I was like, Okay, this
is weird because she doesn't She's not a complaining kid
like that. And I took her to the doctor and
(47:24):
he was like, all right, well, I don't see anything wrong,
but let's just get an X ray. And then it
all just like went downhill from there. It just was
like I was on the way home from her getting
the X ray and they said could she come back
and get the other leg done? And then I already
knew something was wrong. And I guess the scariest part
was is that it took it took a very long
(47:44):
time to get a diagnosis and to start getting treatment
from it before it because it was right at the
at the edge of the pandemic and things like that.
Or during the pandemic, I should say, So that was
the scariest time because I was getting sent doctor to
doctor with her and I didn't the location of the
(48:07):
knee is very suspicious for cancer sometimes and kids, and
just like the whole thing, Like I just I was
so scared that she had something really terrible wrong. And
what she has is pretty terrible and debilitating, but also
at the same time, it's not cancer and it's not
a death sentence and things like that. So we've been
(48:27):
going through like lots of ups and downs with it.
The first medicine she went on was Humera and that
is a biologic injection I had to give her, and
it it was great, Like we went and got the
scans done and it looked like her her bone wasn't
showing any signs of that anymore. And then all of
a sudden, she started getting this crazy psoriasis all over
(48:48):
her body from the drug. And then one of them
got infected so bad. She got this crazy fungal infection
that wouldn't go away and couldn't be healed, and she
had to get a biopsy and she possibly needed surgery.
Like it was just so crazy, and now it finally
went away, but she has like a huge scar on her,
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like that's going to be there forever, like absolutely huge.
It looks like she got burned. It's that bad. So
just dealing with that. And then she got diagnosed with
scoliosis recently, and then she has to wear this back
brace every day, which is uncomfortable. It's a it's a
huge plastic uncomfortable thing, and I just I feel terrible.
Medications we had to give her the last round was
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another drug that made her like kind of depressed, which
we didn't realize it, and just injections, and it's just
been a lot. But she's healthy and she's alive, and
she goes to school every day and she has friends
and she gets to play. And so it's like but
like she even said to me last night, like Mommy,
it's getting so hot out. How much longer do I
have to wear this brace? And I just want to
tell her, like years, I feel tired, Like I can't
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even break it to her and be like you have
to wear this for years of your life, cause it's
it's just uncomfortable, Like imagine having a piece of plastic
wrapped around your body for she has to wear it
at least eighteen hours a day. That means every night
when she sleeps, and it's just a lot. So the
thing is for you, it's probably worse for you as
a parent than it is for the kid, honestly, Like
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kids are like super resilient, and you just sit there
and you just feel terrible for your kids. So that's
all I could say to you is just like, try
to take the pain on yourself as much as your kid.
Your kid'll be fine. Your kid will get through it.
Like I was crying the night that Lucia when we
came home with this brace, because I was just thinking, like, God,
I don't even want to like sleep with socks on.
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I hate being uncomfortable while I'm sleeping, and hear this
kid's gotta wear this thing and she couldn't even turn
in bed. But I could pose the picture for you
guys all or I did. I posted it on my
Instagram and my story last week that she went camping
with her school and she like got to the top
of this rock climbing wall thing and rang the bell
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and she was wearing her brace. So like kids are
just super resilient. Things seem like they suck. And then
they get used to it. And honestly, like I feel
like when she gets older, she's gonna be like so
resilient to to like real issues in her life because
of going through this as a kid. Like she's gonna
be like, yeah, that's nothing, Like she'll think nothing is
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a problem because of it. So try to look at
it from the positive and and just like you just
like there's nothing you could deal with it. You just
have you have to deal with it, and you have
to help your kid deal with it, and just you know,
it's always good to bribe them sometimes, like what do
like when she had to start getting shots, you know,
I would say, okay, like I'll take you to support
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and get whatever you want, or she wanted like one
of these giant uh squish mellow things and just stuff
like that, like you know, from time to time, or
I'll go up to her recently and I was like, listen,
you're doing really good with your brace. I'm so proud
of you. Like let me get you some roblocks money
or something like that, like just little incentives to be
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like listen, like I like always let them know that
they're doing a good job.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
And you know, yeah, and of course we're sorry you're
going through that. And obviously, like you can speak from
your experience how hard that is. I think Lucia is
so strong watching her every day, I mean, she doesn't
take any shit from anybody, and that's obvious. And she's
just been so good about the entire thing, you know. Yeah,
and it's and and that's how I was kind of
keyed off that her medication was causing her to have
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depression because I was like, she hasn't typically seemed like
this has been bothering her, and now all of a sudden,
like she's acting a little weird. And the medication that
she was on was called Method Trecks eight. It's not
a drug that you would typically think had anything to
do with depression, but sure enough, there's like lots of
papers written on it that it does cause that reaction.
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So that's another advice I have to you, is like,
you know, your doctors are gonna want to put the
kid on all these medicines and stuff, and sometimes you
don't really have a choice. Because with us, it was
like she hasked to take these medicines or her leg
might stop growing and then she's going to have to
get surgeries because one of her legs is shorter than
the other leg and this because it was right around
her growth plate. And that's a tough decision to make
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as a parent, like, Okay, put my kid on this
hardcore drug, or like her leg's going to stop growing
and there's all that other stuff that comes along with it.
But just like if you if you see something that's abnormal,
sometimes you have to push a little bit more because
your doctors only sees you like once every couple of
months at the appointment where you're with the kid every day,
So like, if their body doesn't seem right or their
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mind doesn't seem right, you have to question it all
right too. What plastic surgery have you had and would
you consider getting more? If so? What? Well this question
is for you because I haven't even done both ox
or anything.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah. Well I I had a Tommy talked on and
it was it was awesome. I recommend it. I like, well,
the surgery that I had yesterday was definitely not plastics,
but I would get my neck done probably. Listen, like,
but what if it.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Looks like Kim Kardashian's just like this mech galaxy exactly.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
And this is what scares the shit out of me
because when I look at like, let me tell you
my inspose and halfaway Jesus, like, she looks so freaking
good whatever she had, whatever she had done. And the
same with your girl. Uh, what's the other one, Lindsay Lohan.
Oh yeah, Like if if you could say to me
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like that surgeon is doing your face, I'd be like,
I'll be there tomorrow, just like they're like probably I
know they are, and that's never going to happen to me.
But then like this video has been going around with
Kim Kardashian at the Mechalet and her neck looks terrible,
and I think it's because like she probably had some
of her face lifted, but maybe not her neck. Whatever
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it is, it looks like weird and that scares me.
So then that makes me think, Okay, I probably just
won't ever do anything because I'm too scared, unless I
could definitely find like a perfect surgeon or something. Because
when I look at Anne Hathaway, I'm just like, she
just looks like I like her look because she doesn't
have that gross, like fake bulbous look. Whatever they did
(55:16):
to her. I think a lot of Uh, it's very popular, right,
now to get this like eyelid surgery, and I think
so many I see so many people with it that
I think it looks so terrible, and I'm like, I
I'll deal with my sagging eyelids. I just don't want
to have that look. I don't know if you know
the look I'm talking about. It just looks like their
eyes are open way too much and they have people
put like way too much filler or something on their cheeks,
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and they just have this very like deer in headlights
kind of a look or something. I don't know. It's
just like I don't I don't want to look like
I've had work done. So I'm open to it, but
I don't have any I don't have any plans for it.
I would say, all right, Las Maria, what does the
queue stand for? Well, it's for my maiden name, Qualitiri.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
And my maiden name is not Anne Jemmy. So I
think somebody last week was like, why don't you just
keep fan Jemmy's because you're both aunt Jemmy. I was
not an aunt Jimmy, so didn't make but it's my
it's my maiden name though, so it's she's she's a quality. Yeah,
like it's it's my last name, my first last name. Yeah,
unconventional to not have my dad's name as my maiden name,
(56:22):
but it was for your maiden name. So I really
liked my last name, so I wanted to keep it
in some capacity. And there's you know, very few Maria
qualities in the world, but there was many Maria Kanes
in the world. So it's like, what can I do
to kind of, you know, stand like stand out. So
I did that.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah, I'm middle name, like we had. It is hard
when you're when you're getting married and changing your last
name because our last name was very cool and unique,
a unique letter, so whenever we needed to get monogram stuff,
it's like a Q as coal and it's it is
like a really unusual thing when you're gonna change your
(57:03):
last name. But then, like Anne Jemmy was equally as
cool to me, so I was okay with it. I
don't know if Gabe's last name was Kane, would we
might have had to have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
I mean, you guys always joke that Kine is playing
whatever you're saying.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
The kids Kane. The kids say Kane is plain.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Listen, my last name is great because it's very neutral
and everybody could pronounce it and spell it, whereas quality
people see the queue and they're just like, I don't
even know where to go from here. It was nuts.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
People pronounced my last name wrong all the time. It's yeah,
it is crazy, but yeah, I know it is easy
because then if you're just sitting there, you could just
be like, oh, it's Kane, Like it's it's easy. You
don't have to explain yourself or whatever. But but yeah,
so she kept the cue. I probably should have too,
but whatever, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
I mean, I liked that last name and I wanted
to keep some part of it because you know it,
it's funny. I referred to my name and just like
the rebrand because I had to like switch everything and
now I were like, hey, initials and stuff. But it
is funny because you're like this whole identity for how
el is that when I got married like twenty seven,
so twenty seven years, I'm like this whole identity and
then all of a sudden, you have just like a
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different name for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
I'm not into like so I was into like wearing.
I used to have this really remember that cool bracelet
I had from anthro forever before it broke that had
like a really cool Q and cursive on it, Like,
I don't I won't do an A now because it's
a boring letter. So I'm like over the monogram. It's
kind of like whatever.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Well maybe I'm just into it right now because it's
like new for me, you know, and Q is like interesting,
but I like it all right. Well, thank you guys
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Speaker 2 (58:54):
Thanks guys, say tomorrow, thank you for listening to Knows Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day, and the
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