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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with
the story of the day.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
So over the weekend, this really disturbing story broke out
of New Jersey. Of course, everything weird happens in New Jersey.
Apparently last month in Middle Township School district, they got
tipped off to this Facebook post made by a student's parent,
and in the post, the parent was alleging that the
fifth grade teacher's five year old son looked eerily similar

(00:45):
to his son, which was basically suggesting that the then
twenty eight year old teacher got pregnant with his then
thirteen year old son.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
So once he did this Facebook post, how did things
go down? I guess my question is why would you why?
Because I'm a regular person that sends my children to school.
I just would never even think that my child was

(01:13):
having a relationship with their teacher like that. So there
had to be like way more to the story before
this guy put this post up, Like what did they
find out?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
They have a very unusual background. I mean, as they
started explaining this story, You're just gonna be like, what
the f like things really aren't making sense. So after
the Facebook post was made, the school district got tipped
off and they had put the teacher on paid administrative
leave while they investigated the situation. And according to these

(01:43):
news outlets, it seems like when the Sun was in
fifth grade, he had this teacher. Her name's Lauren. So
I guess during some type of school activity or maybe
parent teacher night or whatever, the child who remains unnamed
the victim right now, his mother met the teacher whose
name's Lauren, and they formed a friendship. And then Lauren

(02:04):
started at some point suggesting that this woman could drop
her kids off at her house and she would watch them,
Which you have a kid in this same age group, right,
so like, would it ever be appropriate for their teacher
to be babysitting them?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
No, it's probably crossing a boundary. Like when I went
to school, it was like, your teachers aren't real people, right,
just to think of them having a personal life and stuff.
But if you're I mean, at the kids last school,
I made friends with not one of the teachers, but

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one of the administrative assistants and we hung out outside
of school. And I don't want have removed from the kids, Yeah,
I guess, but if she was like, oh, can the
kids come hang out? I wouldn't feel any kind of
way about that, you know what I mean, thinking that
it was inappropriate. I guess it in its typical classic

(03:05):
public school situation like I went to when I was
a kid, I would think like, yeah, that's just weird,
just because I was saying that there was a very distinct,
harsh boundary between teachers and students. I so what I
guess I would think it was weird because, like you're saying,
with the friend that I made at the other school,
she had a kid in Lucia's class, so they were

(03:28):
the same age and friends. And this woman doesn't have
any children. She just wanted kids to come stay at
her house.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well yeah, so I think at first it started into like, hey,
we're friends. If you ever need a break, I can
watch the kids. And then they started staying overnight, which
I guess that could progress if you're friendly with the
parents and whatever, but I do personally think that's a
little weird. And then at some point it evolved to
all the kids living at her house permanently. So that's

(03:57):
a huge gap in the story that I'm having a
really difficult time understanding is why were the parents allowing
the kids to live there permanently? Was there something going
on in their life where they couldn't have them. I'm
really confused about that detail. But yeah, because that's really
unusual to let just let your kids live with their teacher.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, and I mean you you hear all the time
that kids live with a grandparent or something because the
grandparent lives in the better school district or something like that.
There are times, obviously when kids have to go live
with other people, and it might not even be because
there's I mean, did not happen with Ricky that he
wanted to go to a school? I know it was
his dad, but like he his parents wanted him to

(04:40):
go to a better school, so he ended up moving
in with the dad to go to high school and
the better school.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, I think they used his dad's address and then
until his mom moved over there eventually. But I think
that's what you know, heavily frowned upon. But yeah, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Though, like you hear stories of that sometimes that because
of the school system. But the kid was already in
the school system, so that's why I'm confused.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
This happened to us too though. When I was in school,
we had to move apartments and we were technically in
the next town, and I would have gotten kicked out too. Yeah, no,
I know, so even though we were like, but I
had the five minutes from school, but I had to
pull you out of school and move you to a
new school because of it. But yeah, so whatever I was,
that's the only thing I could think of. Was it

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one of those situations where she was already friends with
the parents and then they maybe had to sell their
house or move suddenly, and then the kids couldn't have
gone to the same school. And they were genuinely like,
we don't want to disrupt their life, but why not
just use her address. I don't know. I don't really
understand why they were living with her, but it seems
like they were living with her for a while, like
a couple of years. But anyway, the kids started off

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sleeping in the upstairs spare bedrooms, and then they noticed
their brother suddenly was waking up in the teacher's bedroom.
And then there was a couple situations where the kids
noted that the brother was coming out of the bathroom
in a towel with the teachers, so obviously they had
been showering together. And then one of the siblings said
they questionably walked in on a sexual act with them.

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I mean, these are also little kids. They don't know
what they're seeing at first, right, so they might not
even register this is inappropriate.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, this you know what I feel like with all
of these, This is like a typical grooming situation that
you would say, right when an adult is just making
all of these behaviors like normalized for kids that it's
just so sad and disturbing to hear. But I have
a couple cases, like did you ever watch the documentary

(06:39):
on Michael Jackson called Finding Neverland?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah? I did when it came out.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I haven't seen it in years, but do you remember
it was a similar thing of like the mom letting
the kid hang out at Michael Jackson's and then he
started sleeping over and being there all the time, and
just these very weird behaviors that were happening kind of
right in front of the mom's face and she didn't
even realize it.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, I think this happens a lot.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, It's like every single time we tell a story
about this you hear, weren't we just talking about someone
recently that We were just like, why was the mom
letting this happen?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
What was that? I couldn't it. It'll come to me later, but.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
You remember us talking about that though? Right that that
thereat Oh it was God, It's.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
On the tip of my tongue. I know exactly what
you're talking about. This happens all the time because every
every family party or anytime with my friends are like,
you talked about the story. I'm like, we talk about
so many stories.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
It was No, we didn't talk about it on here.
I don't think we did. Anyway, it was about the
Zodiac Killer. Yeah, yeah, did we talk about that on
here or now?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I don't think we did. But when you were away,
I did a two part di section on the Zodiac Killer,
and in the newer Netflix documentary, a lot of people
were criticizing that. Then no new information came out, and
I'm like, I beg to differ. I didn't know anything
about that family that was connected to him. But that's
a long story. But basically, he was like molesting this
one girl and they had this cipher that he was

(08:10):
a teacher. He was a teacher. Also all of well,
this suspect, nobody's been convicted in that case, which is
absolutely ridiculous when you read all the evidence they had
against this guy. But he was a teacher. All the
victims were students. And then this one family, the Seawater family,
their mother was letting their kids that were in middle
school and high school go on vacations, not vacations, but

(08:31):
going on overnight trips with this grown adult man and
staying at his house and stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, so inappropriate, And we were just thinking, like, okay,
that's that's you know, especially the guy was single. There
was no kids there. There's but it happens they're they're
weaned into it so slowly that they don't even realize
anything any anything's wrong or abnormal.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Right, Well, you know, the mom was having an affair
with him too, or not in a she was having
a sexual relationship with him too. The Zodiac Killer And
I don't know if you ever saw that Netflix thing
called Abducted in Plain Sight about this neighbor that was
molesting a young girl and he was having sex with
her mother and her father. Nobody knew like he was

(09:17):
having independent affairs with the father with the mother, and
then he was kidnapping the daughter. He kidnapped her two
times a right, it is the most going.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
We're going off on a tangent here, get back regardless,
there was some stuff overird stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yes, so all right, the kids are living with the
teacher and then eventually the teacher gets pregnant in twenty nineteen,
so that would she would have been twenty eight years
old when she got pregnant, and then the boy would
have been thirteen years old at the time she's pregnant.
So they're thinking she started having a sexual relationship with
him when he was eleven years old, and then when
he was thirteen she got pregnant. And apparently the siblings

(09:55):
are saying that he had confided in them that he
knew he fathered this child as a young teen, but
he didn't want her to get in trouble. And I
don't know why it took so long for this to
get pieced together by the parents. I don't know. I
feel like there's a lot of holes in this story.
There are, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Really interested in listening to this the trial of this case,
because it's I mean, just imagine being a school administrator
and getting a tip that someone posted that and not
thinking it was I mean, a normal person hearing that
would just be like that sounds silly that that would
even be a thing. It almost seems like every single

(10:35):
person was kind of like this is weird.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
The school that she.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Was working for really should have thought that it was
abnormal that one of their teachers essentially adopted but not
officially adopted these children and they were living at her
house and stuff. It's just it's very unusual situation.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
I can't see a world in which they knew this
was going on, because I cannot, but I just refuse
to believe this is acceptable behavior or like that they
would allow this in any type of way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
So one thing that's interesting is talking about little kids
and stuff like boys going through puberty and everything like that.
The ability to get a person pregnant, think sounds silly
for such a young child, you know what I mean.
And there's this this this age where you know, the
testicles start growing and then it starts producing sperm and

(11:25):
everything like that, but then it takes a while before
that happens to be able to ejaculate and have sperm
that would be viable and ready to get someone pregnant.
So it just depends on when a kid goes through puberty.
But technically, I mean there's kids that go through puberty
pretty early.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
They could get someone pregnant.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's so so sad because like when kids are just
discovering like what their body can do and stuff like that,
and having an adult take advantage of them, and there's
been this I wanted to go to this really quick.
Do you remember the whole like Mary Hey laterno thing?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I mean, how could you not? That was one of
the most popular cases involving a teacher having an affair
with the student.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I feel like that was the I don't know that
that was the first one ever, but that was the
first one that there was such a big deal out of.
She had two children. For those of you who don't
know who she is or don't remember, in the nineties,
she had two children. Before this kid was fifteen years old.
She got pregnant by him twice, and then weird ended
up getting married to him, and even though she was

(12:29):
in jail for raping him, and.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
He stayed married to her, I believe until she died
of cancer years later.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, I don't, I don't remember. I thought I don't know.
I thought that they broke up a couple of times
and stuff. I'm not really sure what happened, but the
bottom and those kids have to be like, you're like
your age now, are like a little bit younger than you.
This because this happened to me, and she was a
married mother when she had had and had other children too.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
It was just so outrageous.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
But I think when when that case first came out
in the nineties and I was I was a teenager
or a late teenager, then it was so shocking because
you always heard stories of it with men doing it
with girls, but you never heard of a woman doing
it with a child and being a woman of that age,
just like looking at a little boy. I don't even

(13:19):
understand what the attractiveness would be at all, but there's
just been increasing cases of it ever since.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's so weird and in your mind, teachers aren't real people,
so how could this possibly happen? I don't know. Okay,
this is sorry if this was super complicated. As a listener,
it was very complicated to understand what happened. I think
there's a lot of holes in the story that are
gonna come out. I mean, it seems like she just
got arrested in the last couple of weeks and they're

(13:46):
doing an investigation to see exactly what happened. I'm really curious.
It says that the abuse happened from twenty sixteen to
twenty twenty, So why at some point was the child removed?
Were the parents suspicious of anything at all? I think,
based on my calculations, the victim would be eighteen right now.
But I don't really know what's going on, and it's

(14:08):
really sad that this kid went through this.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, I and I spent like an hour of my
life trying to see if I could find someone that had.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
This Facebook post.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh, I got me too, because I'm just like, I
want to see what made him think that this kid.
Obviously they're not gonna they're not going to show It's
it's outrageous to think that a person would post something
like that on Facebook. But then again, I'm a member
of the Facebook page for both of the neighboring towns
where I live, and people post questionable things every single day.

(14:40):
You're just like, why the fuck would you ever put
your name associated with that.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
This happened with Arnold Schwartzenegger too, he had an affair
with his I believe, his housekeeper, and you know, then
she got pregnant with his kid, and they you know,
his wife was like, you know, bring your kid to
the parties and everything. And then at one particular event
when the kid got older, she was looking at the kid,
she was looking at Arnold, and then she was like,

(15:05):
there's no way that's not my husband's child.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
And that's how it all came out. Like she started
calling him out after that.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, I mean, if you see so that kid, I
think that kid's my age now too.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
This reminds me of like Meet the Fokers. Do you remember,
Oh yeah, yeah, the kid that looked exactly like Ben's diller.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, but it was like the housekeepers. Yeah. And if
you're if you look at this kid, because he's very
close with the Sun, I believe the son's in his twenties,
are around my age. If you look at the Sun
versus him right now, it's undeniably his child. I mean,
they have the same exact facial features. It's insane. Oh yeah,
you could, you could totally say that. I mean, I

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believe it.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I was just curious to see it because I'm just
like wow, and you're right, Like, why did what made
the children move out of her house at some point?
Like something had to have happened if they were living
there for so many years.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
And how did they just realize now? I mean, it
seems like if they're still seeing pictures of this child
as a five year old, that they're still friends with
the woman if it was not known information, So they were.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Still friends with the woman. They said that they were
friends with her until he made that post.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Oh my god, like that was the that was the
finals drawl, I guess, and we're her and the boys
still in a relationship up to this time. I have
no idea. There's a lot of questions that need to
be answered, but this is horrible.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
And you look at the the woman she's Wasn't she
a basketball player on Villanova's team?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Well, I don't know if she was on Villanova. They're
branding it as that, but I think she played for
Cabrini College, and I think Villanova after she was a
player for Cabrini, then took on took on Cabrini College.
You know, I'm trying to say they absorb them or whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
So she so she wasn't on she was On another
the school was called Cabrini College and it no longer
exists because Villanova bought it. You're saying yes, And I
think when she was a college basketball player, she's a
cute well man like she doesn't.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're just like, why why? I don't understand. I don't know.
And they said she became a teacher in twenty fourteen,
and then she started allegedly abusing this kid when he
was six in twenty sixteen. So you're like, you were
a teacher for two years and then I don't understand.
We say this all the time, we don't understand why
you're going through all the education and everything. Did she
always know she was a pedophile and being a teacher

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was her way into her addiction to it. I don't know, Okay,
I just can't celebrity news. Fame director David Lynch has
died at age seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I love him. I loved her cool, Yeah, I loved
muhalland drive and erase her head twin peaks like all
of his stuff. But did you see that he more
than likely like his death was exacerbated because he had
to move because of the wildfires. Yeah, well, last year
he had been diagnosed with emphysema. I think he was
pretty proud smoker, which is I feel like so rare

(17:59):
today with everything we know about smoking, that people are
just out and about doing it and boasting about how
awesome it is. But then he had emphysima last year,
and yeah, you're saying he had to move because of
the fires, and that kind of sped everything up. Yeah,
So emphysema is a chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. And the
reason that it's called obstructive is because your air sacks

(18:19):
get damage and the air that are inside of the
sacks can't get out. So that means that new oxygen
or new air with oxygen and it is not able
to get in and you get weakness out of breath easily, a.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Lot of coughing.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
And he was saying that he was having a hard
time just getting up off the couch and walking across
the room with his oxygen. But so imagine a person
in that situation getting some kind of alarm that they
have to evacuate in five minutes and just run out
of their house. I mean that could have just set
off a turn of events that caused him to end

(18:55):
up dying from that. I don't know if he had
access to portable locks, oxygen or or what happened. And
also another thing is in fires, obviously having an oxygen
tank in a house it can be an explosive too,
So I don't They didn't say that he died in
the fire, right, It just was like the move itself
was what caused him to die. Afterwards, I believe that's

(19:18):
what they said. So this is this is one of
the things that I always think is crazy. I've always
said that that all of these commercials that try to
tell you about smoking being bad, and you.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Still hear it to this day.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It's like cancer, cancer, cancer, and yes, cigarette smoking causes
a dozen different kinds of cancers, but also can permanently
damage your lungs, like in this case, I mean, listen, like,
I'm I'm a person. I don't want to take your
cigarettes away or something. If that's what made him happy
and he enjoyed his life, and he just was like

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I smoke three packs a day and I love it,
then so be it. You're in charge of your own life.
Just know the risk, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, I mean I feel like you know it sucks
because it's it's such an unhealthy habit, and we know
that today, but even I was thinking, we talked about
red dye number three and stuff last week and now
I've been checking on my labels. But it's like a
lot of candy and stuff I have in my house
is red forty, right, And I know that's bad too,

(20:19):
But I'm like, well that I won't candy that'll be
next on the list.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
But it doesn't matter, Like that doesn't that doesn't make
your candy taste better, you know what I mean? Like
if they if they die it with a different let's
say it's in Swedish fish or whatever, like if they
if they make them with beet juice instead, they might
be like, not as vibrant, but it's still gonna taste.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Exactly the same, you know what I mean. Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's why I think it's like it's dumb, Okay. Meredith Guodrou,
widow to NHL star Johnny Gudrou, has gotten some new
tattoos with her husband's ashes. What so remind people of
the story about what happened to them a few months ago.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Oh my god, every time we talk about this, I
want to cry. It makes me so upset to think about. So,
he was a famous NHL player on the Columbus Blue Jackets,
and over Labor Day weekend, he was home in his
town in New Jersey, which wasn't super far from us,
with his whole family. He and his brother, who was
also a hockey player, were riding their bikes along a
country road the night before their sister's wedding and a

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drunk driver hit and killed them. So what happened with
the drunk driver?

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I know that he pulled over at the scene and
he was wasted. He didn't even realize what had happened. Right,
Oh my god, this guy is really pissing me off.
So the bodycam footage came out recently and he was like.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
What happened? Does anyone hurt? You didn't realize you killed
two grown men on their bicycles. And then he admitted
to having a couple of beers before he was driving,
And it's like, you didn't have two beers and you
got in the car, you probably had like twenty or something. Yeah,
And wasn't he a dragon alcohol counselor draggonouseho counselor he's

(22:02):
being so difficult when they told him he was gonna
have to stay a couple of days longer because of
the holiday weekend. He was like rolling his eyes in
the court footage. I think he just pled not guilty too,
Which why are you dragging this out and torturing this family?
Both wives of the both players are pregnant, which I
wanted to ask you about that too, Like I'm definitely

(22:23):
not bringing this up to judge her or anything. I'm
just asking, is it it's my belief that it's generally
not advised to get tattooed when you're pregnant. I don't,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I don't think it's a good idea. The reason is
is because when you get a tattoo, you could introduce
pathogens into your bloodstream, right, and that could be bacteria
off of your skin or anything like that. But when
you're pregnant, you're considered to be immunocompromised, so your your
immune system isn't working as great as it normally does.

(22:53):
So even if you get bacteria from your skin into
that cut that's being made with a tattoo needle, it
could set you up to have an infection and your
body might not heal as well from it. You might
get scarring that's associated with that. Like it's you're not

(23:14):
going to die if you get it done. I just think,
I say to most pregnant women, like it can wait,
just you don't have to get a tattoo. Now, just
wait nine months, get it when you're over with. Why
why introduce your body to to have to work on
something else when it's working on growing a fetus.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Right, Well, I don't think this is common knowledge for
people that don't have tencho.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, and I'm sure, I'm sure it's not. And but
getting a tattoo of of of cremated remains is a
it's a more popular thing now that it is. I
mean I think even twenty years ago, no one was
doing that, and now all of a sudden it's a thing,
you know what I mean. And I think it's fine.
You know, ashes are considered to be inert, meaning that

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they that they're just there. They don't they can't get you.
They've been burned at such a high temperature. There's virtually
no way to cause an infection with them as far
as like transmitting anything like that. The biggest concern you
would have is for the tattoo artists themselves that the
chunks are too big and we clog up the machine.

(24:17):
But they could just pick smaller ones out of it,
like very fine cremated remains. So I think that it's fine.
I saw the tattoos that she got. They took two minutes.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, they was probably they were really.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Really small, especially when you get a bigger tattoo piece.
I mean, if you're going to get tattooed for five minutes,
the risk of anything is just so much lower. But
when you and I've gotten this non pregnant all the
time tattoo sessions that are six hours, seven hours in
a row, I have an asthma attack. My body's under
stressed too long.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's just it's just.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Not something that a pregnant person, in my opinion, should
put themselves through. But I think her particular circumstance, it's
just like she just went through the most horrible thing
that any person can go through.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I mean, go do it, you know what I mean? Yeah,
And there's so there's no way they took longer than
ten minutes. She got the word forever on one of
her finger. It looked to me in the photo like
it was her ring finger, which would make the most sense.
And then she got there. She's pregnant right now, but
she got their other two kids' names tattooed as well. Yeah,
I mean I don't have a problem with it. I

(25:29):
think it's I think it's a cool thing to do.
I don't think that it's gross at all. I would
do something like that probably. Yeah. Every time I hear
any story related to them, especially when their story is
about the asshole that hit and killed them, it just
it makes me so upset to think about everything, you know.
I mean, this was a family, they had kids, It

(25:50):
happened the night before what was supposed to be like
a really important day for their sister and stuff. It
just really a horrific tragedy for the entire family. Yeah,
it really was. I will say though, the NHL has
been like super cool about honoring them, like they do
nights where they have his number and stuff on people's jerseys.
And because he was local to our area, the flyers
have been doing a lot to honor him too. So

(26:11):
that's really cool to see.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, Okay, freak accidents all.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Right in India.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
This ding this is a little bit of like I'm
like rolling into a little bit of a lighter story.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
First of all, I could totally see this happening to
me or something. But in India, this chick was sitting
in a mesh office chair at work. I don't know
what happened. She was like facing the opposite way, you know,
when you're like straddling the chair backwards. It seemed like
she was doing that, and then she must have brushed
her face against the mesh lining on the back of
the seat and her nose ring got stuck in the mesh.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I really don't understand what the hell happened to this woman.
Her nose is stuck in the mesh area of the
it's the back of the chair, as if you were
kneeling on the floor and had your head against the
back of the chair. It's just so bizarre. I just
keep thinking over and overlooking at the picture. How did

(27:07):
what was she doing? And why was she in this position?
How did her face get that close to it?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm thinking, you know, I could totally see you're just
like you just sit in the chair like that to
be funny, and you're just like gabbing with all your coworkers,
and then you might just like turn your face down
for a second, maybe to like scratch your face or
something on the back of the chair. Now it's in
a weird spot though.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
It looks like it was in the lumbar section of
the chair, Like if she was straddling a chair, I
could see you could sit on a chair from behind,
but you wouldn't sit in a chair like that from
behind because the butt is scooped out, like you couldn't
straddle it comfortably.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Do you think that maybe she dropped something and she
was like bending over the chair looking for something, and
then that's when it got stuck.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
No, because she's stuck in the lombar area.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
It's like a really weird Did you see the chair?
It's like it looks like it's hard plass and it's
it's just a typical chair that has like a curved
Lombard backing that's plastic, and then it has a seat
that's like a scoop. So it was like her face
is facing towards where you would put the lombar area

(28:15):
of your spine on the inside of the chair. Like,
why was her face anywhere near there? I just don't
even understand. But anyway, well we're digressing here. That's that's
the thing. So I also think with them describing it
as a mesh backing, because you've seen chairs that are
mesh in the back. Yeah, if that happened to you
when you're here in the office, right, I would come

(28:36):
up to you right away and just get scissors and
cut the chair open.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Right. But it wasn't like fabric mesh. It seems like
it was plastic.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, it was plastic mesh like you would like a
laundry basket or something.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
So they had.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
So they're wheeling this woman into the fire station like
with her face attached to the inside backing of this chair,
like it's so outrageous. And then she gets to the
fire station and typical firemen are like fucking around with her,
like holding up a huge axe, acting like that's how
they're gonna have to cut it off of hers. It

(29:09):
was the pictures are just hilarious, and it's it's she
didn't get hurt, it's just freaking embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, they were like torturing her, saying they were gonna
have to use an axe or a chainsaw to get
it off. But they were just trying to calm her
down because she was freaking out, I guess. But they
just were able to get it off with some flyers.
So yeah, not that big of a deal at the
end of the day, but oh my.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
God, still I still want to ask her how the hell, like,
what the hell she was doing? Like her, if she
was leaning over the chair in that way, her face
would have had to be laying on where you put
your butt, like the whole Like, there's no reason her head.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Should have been there. I don't know. It's just I
don't know. And that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
It's just like the craziest shit happened sometimes that you're
just like, how did that even happen?

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true crime, we have.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
A lot of stories involving children today and it just
makes me lose all hope and humanity anymore with the
shit people are doing the little kids. Yeah, I don't understand.
All right, So last month, this twenty nine year old
chick got on a bus with a suitcase and then
shortly into the drive, the driver realized there was a
live child in the suitcase, pulled over and called nine
one one.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, I don't understand. Well, this is what her excuse was.
She said that it was really cold outside and she
was trying to keep the child warm, and that a
family member told her that that would be okay, even
though the kid was inside of the suitcase wearing a
coat and it was thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Oh nose out. It wasn't a family member, it was
her caseworker told her that it was okay to put
a kid in a suitcase, which I called bullshit. She
had a caseworker for what either for maybe parole or
for a previous complaint from Child Protective Services. But I
don't think any person working in child like in the

(32:04):
interest of the child is gonna say that's okay. Did
they look into that to see if that was well?
I think the cops are just calling bullshit in general.
They're like, the kid had a full winter coat on.
It was like only thirty seven degrees, which is cold,
but it's not that cold considering he was fully dressed
for the weather, So why was he put in the suitcase? Yeah,

(32:25):
there's absolutely you really shouldn't even have a child if
you have to ask somebody if this is okay. No,
just it's just like you're clearly not thinking. Really.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
This is interesting that this story came up because Gabe
and I went away last weekend for our anniversary and
then we brought the kids to momm's house to stay
with her. So we had all of the suitcases upstairs,
and I was going to just bring the bigger one
because the girls just like to pack all of their
stuff to bring with them, right, and my bigger suitcase

(32:56):
was upstairs, and Lily and Lulu were putting each other
in the suitcase and like wheeling each other around in
the suitcase, right, And then I said, guys, like, this
is funny and all for two seconds, and they're older,
so like and we and mom and dad were right
there watching them for the five minutes they were doing it,
and it was kind of funny. We were all laughing

(33:18):
and stuff. But I'm just like, you guys know that, like,
you can't do this if you're not if mommy and
Daddy aren't around, and there's no adults around, Like, don't
do this with another kid, because I was thinking about
my nephew and then being like going over to mo
Mom's house with my nephew there and them putting him
in there because he's so little, like he.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Would you know thing's happened with me and d D Right, Yeah, yeah,
I do, because I zipped Dede in there upstairs. I
ran downstairs. Somebody distracted me downstairs, and then pop up
was getting out of the shower and I like left
or right in front of the bathroom door, and then
luckily it was truly like two minutes. But that, yeah,
had been really bad.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
I know. It's like it's kind of a thing that
parents don't really think about, and it's a danger. So
we talked about a case back in April. I believe
that a woman had put her boyfriend into a suitcase
and zipped him up and he died from asphyxia.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Do you remember that. Yeah, So because we were like,
what were they even doing? They feel like they were
on drugs or something.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, But I mean, like this is a concern for
kids because you can die from number one, positional asphyxia.
So your body's in such a position that you can't
expand your rib cage in order to breathe properly as
it is, especially if it's a smaller suitcase, and then
just like closing up a suitcase altogether, and then that
lack of good oxygenated air, just the combination of it

(34:42):
can cause someone to die from an asphyxial death. So
suitcases are can be a danger to kids because kids
just want to They just do dumb shit all the
time and just don't think about it. But you're sitting
there talking to like a ten year old about the
dangers of a suitcase. A grown woman should know that
you absolutely don't put your child in a suitcase. I mean,

(35:03):
it's just common sense.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
The fact that she had a caseworker makes me believe
that she was either in prison before or she had
a formal complaint and a social worker was visiting the house. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I didn't even realize that. That's one hundred percent sure,
So I doubt the case worker said this was okay.
But the girl, I mean, when people get arrested, they
just say whatever to try to get out of trouble.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Right. But well, she's smiling in the mugshot too, which
just makes me think she's like a total piece of shit. Yeah,
well it's not funny, Yeah, it really isn't. She probably
thinks it's like, can you believe I'm getting arrested for this? Like, yeah,
literally nobody is on your side. Actually, Well, speaking of
another asshole. Last April, this ten year old foster child

(35:50):
named Dakota had run over to his neighbor's house, begging
the neighbor to adopt him. He said that foster parents
had hit him in the face. Can you imagine a
little kid run into your house and begging for you
adopt them. No, that's so sad. So then the foster
mother finds the boy at the neighbor's house, and as
a way to punish him, she thinks it'll be a
good punishment to sit on him.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, did we talk about this case. I think we
definitely did when it happened back in April. Well, anyway,
now she's getting she's getting convicted. Sure, she got convicted, right, she.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Got convicted, which I'm thinking is a little like five
years in prison. She sat on him until he died.
Over three hundred pounds one.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
So he was ninety pounds so he's how old was he?
He was ten, so he's like Lilian's eleven and she's
about ninety pounds. So a child the size of Lilian
and a woman three hundred and forty pounds so morbidly
obese sitting on top of him to the point that
the medical examiner determined that his manner of death was

(36:54):
homicide and the cause of death was a mechanical asphyxiation,
which is the same manner of death you would get
give to someone who manually strangled someone to death.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
She I mean him for his seven minutes.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, it's so I don't understand how she's getting such
a light sentence.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Well, she pled not guilty at first, and then she
switched it in October to guilty, So I guess she
made some type of plea deal. But like, you took
a person's life, you should be in prison for a
child's and in a horrific way. It wasn't you know,
not that it's every okay, but it's not like it
was some horrible accident. You intentionally sat on him for
seven minutes.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
We have a story coming up later in this episode
about a foster slash adoption situation. I don't why would
you foster a child if you weren't if you were
abusive in nature? That Like, I understand you have kids
and they get on your nerves or whatever, but like,
if you don't have a kid, why are you even

(37:56):
introducing them into your life if you're not a person.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
That's money they get like special tax incentives and all
these other benefits. That's why. Because there's a lot of
foster families, and I'm definitely not saying this is everybody.
There's a lot of foster families that are truly incredible
and do amazing things, but there are many. This is
not a rare situation where kids are abused. In these situations,

(38:19):
I just don't understand. And it sucks because there are
really good people out there in the world that foster
children and do an incredible job of taking care of
them and make them feel like they're in this loving situation.
And then there's pieces of shit like this that have
no right to be doing this, and now, in my opinion,
are getting off on this light sentence.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like they should give her
a harsh sentence to kind of send a message out
that it just makes me sad because it just makes
me think that this child's life didn't really matter.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly, And it's really
shitty even in death, Like it's already bad enough if
a child has to go onto the foster system as
it is, it's just like so sad and they're like, oh,
she can't foster kids anymore, Well, I hope not. Yeah,
what you shouldn't be allowed to at all. Yeah, this
is like, it's it's weird that that's all she's gotten.
All right. In Romania, this guy said he was planning

(39:09):
to jump this fence at a hospital, hoping to steal
plastic bottles so he could get some cash for them.
But unknowingly he entered this area where there was a
lot of medical waste and he stole three bags that
did not have bottles but had amputated legs. Simple mistake. Simple.
I talked about this many times.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
If you get your leg amputated at the hospital, we
can't keep them with the normal specimens that we normally have.
If you have like a uterus or something, you could
put in a jar and keep in a storage closet
for a longer period of time.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
But the issue with legs.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Is that they decompose and they could only be in
the refrigerator for so long. They they're bulky, So you
have I mean, you would think that a lot of
people aren't getting their limbs cut off, but in certain hospitals,
especially with legs gangerine and stuff, you can get multiple
legs a week and they start they're big, and they

(40:05):
start building up in the fridge and then you usually
put them down into the morgue, and we keep them
for like a little bit, and then once the pathology
signed out and everything, then we have to get rid
of them. And the only way to get rid of
them is to incinerate them with the medical waste, with
the rest of the medical waste from the hospital. So
what happened in this case, because I used to do

(40:27):
this all the time. We would put a bunch of
the legs in a storage drum or something like that
and bring it down with other trash and it goes outside,
you know that, with the rest of the trash. So
it was all sitting out there. It seems like at
the dock where the bottom of the morgue was of
the hospital, and this guy, just not knowing the rules

(40:50):
of what happens, he just sees a bunch of trash
and thinks he's going in to steal probably trash from
the cafeteria or something like, just not even thinking about it,
and takes it. The problem is is that he leaves
and he's got three human I don't know if it
was arms, legs, what it just said limbs, And they
were able to get two of them back, but they

(41:11):
don't know where the other.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
One is I thought it was all legs.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
So, like, listen, most people, most of the time when
you get an amputation, like last week we talked about
that woman who had to get an arm amputation for cancer,
it's just it's not very common to get arms because
the legs are more prone to get gangering, and that's
the most common reason that you would get amputations. So

(41:35):
a majority of the amputations in the hospital are legs,
but there are arms thrown in there sometimes, I don't,
you know what I mean, Just like not commonly. Sometimes
we've gotten traumatic amputations because of trauma, like a woman
getting hit by a bus or something like that, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Well, before they caught him and they see all of
this on surveillance footage, right, and then they found two
of the limbs. They that one was within hospital premise
near the medical waste area and the other was on
a street nearby the medical facility. So imagine just stumbling
upon a trash bag with somebody's women in it. And
then they said the third leg is still mia So

(42:13):
that's great.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, So I don't I honestly, I kind of believe
the guy, Like I don't think that he was trying
to purposely start trouble.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Well, I think if he kept them, you could argue
that he was stealing them for whatever nefarious intention he had.
But I think the fact that he dumped them, he
probably went around the corner, looked in the bag, screamed,
and then dropped the bags on the ground. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
And you have to be pretty desperate anyway, if you're
stealing trash to be trying to collect it to get money, right,
So this person is clearly at that level of their life.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
To do that anyway.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
And I don't think, like if I told you, would
you know what was in those bags, Like, we don't.
We don't try to advertise it to the outside customers
of the High Hospital that there's like human limbs and
trash bags in the back of the hospital, you know
what I mean, Like.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
We try to keep its coming out.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
It's just it freaks people out a little bit, you
know what I mean, Like if they That's why we
don't release bodies through the front door, because you don't
want to see dead people leaving the hospital when you're
going in to get treated.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah, I try to keep you know.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
We put the Morgan in the basement you try to
keep it like very hidden because you don't want people
to think anybody dies at the hospital. This is what
was so funny about the whole entire pandemic situation because
they were doing this, like do you believe the ticker
with the people dying and you're just like, yeah, people
die every single day all day. You just don't think
about it because we hide it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
But I think the media is now like since we're
kind of removed from that time period at this point,
the media is getting so scrutinized for having the death thicker.
I mean it is so outrageous and unnecessary, total fear mongering.
Like who thought that was a good idea?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Well, I mean, listen, it will a good idea for
the media because when you have people scared to death,
they're tuned in and then you're making money. Like that's
that's what they did and it worked right. But yeah,
just to get back.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I mean, it's it. I don't blame the guy. I
don't know, just.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I'm not I'm not trying to like he committed a
crime stealing something, but like I do think it was
an accident, Like I just want to know where the
other limb is and and the hospital wants to know
just because they could. You know, they have responsibility for
it because it was in their thing and you don't
want anybody to stumble across that.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
They it did say that they the hospital was fine
by authorities for mishandling the legs. I guess because the
area they were in was unlocked and unsupervised, so it
was easy, too easy for the guy to get them.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, I I mean I understand that, I don't I
don't really know in our circumstance, Like we wouldn't just
put them outside, right, it would be like wait till
the person comes in, picks it up and let them
in to take the trash.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
So I do understand that there's there.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Shouldn't be really any of that kind of stuff that
that is biohazard waste just because or specimens or anything
that has like patient information on it. Like everything needs
to be thrown out in a certain kind of way.
So I can see if they had it, if that
wasn't supposed to be there that but he kind of
went in he like it looked like he went in

(45:25):
a door that was open, like he broke and entered
a building.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, but I guess they're arguing it should have been locked.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, I guess, but but like think about that, like
think about real life though, Like I'm just thinking about
when we used to do this. If the door's propped
open because you're bringing stuff in and out of the hospital,
and like the guy working there is just like, hey,
I have to go to the bathroom real quickly. It's
just and that was the opportunity the guy took to
go into the hospital when the door was wedged open
like that.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
We I mean, listen, I just had this situation similarly
a couple of weeks ago when I had my green
door opened because I had just gone on my front
porch to get something and I did lock it, but
sometimes I forget, and then this old woman tried to
come in my house. So like it happened, It definitely happens,
but well, that's your fault. Then it would have been

(46:16):
my fault for keeping the door unlocked. But I was
thankful that I unconsciously did it, because that would have
been like a whole thing. Huh.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Did you ever find out what happened with that lady?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
No? I didn't. I mean, I just like some.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Rando old lady completely out of her mind walks it.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Did I say this on here?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
I think you might have. I was in my bathroom
and then I heard somebody trying to open my front door,
and I got really scared because you know, in the
episode of Lauren I was talking about like I broke
in our house and everything, and I have like very
very faint residual PTSD from that. So I heard somebody
trying to open the door, and I got really scared,
and it ended up being this like older woman. I
have no idea where she came from. By the time

(46:56):
I got to the door, she was across the street
trying to go into my house who was on vacation,
And so I called the non emergency line and was
just like, I don't know if she's like having a
situation because she was wearing like a bathrobe and slippers
and stuff. But I don't know if she needed help
and whatever. But she kind of just like disappeared up
somebody's driveway, So I don't know if she lived there
or I don't know what happened. I did call the

(47:19):
police department to let them know to look into it,
and they I saw they drove by, but they never
It's not like they're gonna call me and be like,
this is what happened. Here's a follow up. Yeah, here's
a follow up. They don't care. Okay, medical news, all right,
So this is the story you were referencing earlier about
an adopt a kid. So this new documentary dropped on
Max last week called an Update on Our Family. I

(47:40):
did tune into it yesterday, but of course there's only
one episode available right now, and they tie you in
right at the juicy end and now I want to
know every detail of this. But the documentary goes into
some stories about family YouTube channels like you know, mommy
bloggers and stuff, and people documenting what it's like to
be a mother and their family and all of that stuff.

(48:01):
So they focus specifically on this one family called the
Stop for Family This Check. Micah had started this YouTube
channel a long time ago when she was a single mom.
At some point, she meets this guy named James, they
get married, they start having kids, and then their YouTube
channel just explodes with her talking about pregnancy and her
life being a mom, and you know, documenting all the

(48:25):
intimate details. She even had an instance where she did
a live pregnancy test and then she told all her
followers she was pregnant, and then she ended up having
a miscarriage. She took them through that whole journey and
everything too, So people that were interviewed said they really
liked her because she was very open and intimate and
showed the good and the bad side, which we don't
always see the bad side on people's social media. Everything

(48:48):
like that. So fast forward to twenty seventeen, Micah and
James have a couple kids and they decide they're going
to adopt a kid from China. So after this whole
long process that they're documenting every single star up the way,
they announced that they're adopting this little toddler boy from
China that they're gonna name Huxley. So they you know what,

(49:11):
I won't even say anything. I just name the name.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Like the name just tells the name of that kid
tells me everything else I need to know about this case. Well,
I think a little bit in the documentary to the
reporter that wrote all this article talking about what happened
with them was a big reference point for the documentary.
So they had been interviewing the reporter and she also
seemed to.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Be rolling her eyes at that time, because that is
very typical of somebody like that to name a kid
something like that. So, yeah, she's documenting the whole process
of adopting the boy, and then once they get the boy,
the whole process of integrating him into the family, and
then around twenty twenty, her followers, which is around seven
hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube, that's a lot, realize the

(49:56):
boy is not appearing in the videos, but the other
children are, and then they do this video called an
Update on our Family, which is why they called the
docu series.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's such a genius title too.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
And they explained that when they got the kid, he
had some special needs they weren't prepared for, and therefore
they rehomed him. They like the fucking dog.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
They literally used the word rehomed. They rehomed a child.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
A little boy. Which you know, what this article we're
referencing didn't really get into, which they did in the docuseries,
is that she had all these videos talking about how
they knew they were potentially going to be getting a
kid with special needs and how they were up for it.
So like, so she had said that.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
She had said that they were rehoming him because he
was diagnosed with developmental disabilities, and then I saw other
articles saying that he had autism, and then she didn't
know about it. Guess what, Like, not one person, because
there's no test to diagnose autism in utero, not one
person that has an autistic child knows their fucking kid's
gonna have autism. Like that's just the dumbest shit I

(51:03):
ever heard.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Of my life.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
You don't get to just like pick a perfect child
that you get to raise. One of the really crazy
things about this is that in that update on their family,
they said that they had multiple assessments and evaluations for
medical professionals who agreed he needed a home better equipped
to support him. Now, like I just said, no parent

(51:28):
knows that they're having a child with autism, So every
single parent theory has to equip their home to take
care of their autistic children. She's a nurse, by the way,
she was a former nurse, and she's just acting like
she can't take care of this kid, and doctors are
basically telling her to put the kid in a house

(51:48):
that's better to take care of him. To me, it's
just like no, Like I got this kid, and I
thought that I could deal with him, and it's it's
ruining our perfect little family and I just need him
to go away.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Why because she can't monetize the kid? Like, seriously, what
that could possibly be the excuse for? Listen, at the
end of the day, I want to say, if they
knew they didn't want this child, I'm happy that he
is with a family that actually wants him and loves
him like he should be loved, right, But you can't
rehome a kid like a dog, like.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
And the kid's already rehomed. He's adopted. He just came
from another country and she adopted him or they adopted
him when he was two years old, so he already
has a lived life somewhere else and and now you
brought him here. Why why did they.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Adopt this kid? Anyway?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
They already had three kids and then they had another
kid after him, Like what was did they did she
talk about?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Like the reason?

Speaker 1 (52:48):
I mean, I know that, like people do that kind
of stuff all the time because they're trying to give
a child a good life and stuff. But it doesn't
seem like that's what Obviously, that wasn't what her intentions
were because there were stipulations as long as the kid
was perfect.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
You know, it seemed like what they were trying to
get at in the docuseries so far is that every
time she made a video taking a pregnancy test or
talking about the miscarriage or something like that, she would
get like an astronomical amount of views and followers from it,
which would increase her monetization. Right, Like, this video is
going on YouTube. We know how that works behind the scenes.

(53:25):
So every time she's posting something along those lines, she's
getting more views and more followers. And they were saying
that this adoption process and her being so transparent about
every single step really just boosted the views. They kept
jacking them up, jacking them up, jack of them up.
By the time in twenty twenty, she had almost a
million subscribers. That is so many subscribers.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
So this this didn't come up like suddenly though, Like
I know that you said that people were like, hey,
where's that kid. But she did mention a few times
that she was dealing with issues with him, And one
of the ones that it is really shocking is that
she was she was told that I guess she knew
to some extent that the kid was going to have

(54:08):
some kind of disabilities, but didn't know exactly what. And
I wouldn't even go as far to say the adoption
agency lied. I mean, you're going through the adoption process
and the kid's two years old, Like you don't know
the extent of it.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Nobody does.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Like you have to sit there and get them tested
and wait over the course of years.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
It's not something you know right away. Right.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
The kids just starting to learn how to walk and
talk and everything like that. That just takes a minute
to be able to really see the true extent of
someone's intellectual disability. But she was saying, like wondering how
her life was going to look with what kind of
arrangements would need to be made in the home, what
kind of medical treatments would he need? And he was

(54:49):
She was complaining about like downgrading some of the treatments
because of money issues, right, But then one of her
followers saw that she was wearing an eighteen carrot carti,
a bracelet that at the time was worth over six
thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
That's how much it costs. Yeah, and she's.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Complaining about about treatment and this and that. It's just like,
if let's say For example, one of her biological children
had this, like, you can't just give a kid back.
What are you talking about? You can't rehome a kid.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
This is exactly what I'm talking about. I think you
know this. This topic comes up all the time of
these children being on these YouTube channels. I just I
don't think it's right. I think if you're a content
creator and you want to share pictures of your family
and everything, that's up to you. But once you start
putting them to work and they're contributing to your wealth,
it starts crossing a line. And I think that he

(55:43):
didn't fit into her perfect little life on her YouTube channel,
and it was gonna be like maybe they had to
put some stuff in their house that wasn't gonna make
their house that perfect clean cut look or whatever it was.
And they were gonna see his medical equipment or whatever
they needed for him in the background, or it was
gonna take her time away from making videos which makes
them money. It's sickening to think about it.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Do you think they adopted this kid just for like
a click situation?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, I kind of do, so I went I kind.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Of heard about this case a little bit. But last
night when this story came out that I'm glad they're
doing a documentary on it that I went on her
Instagram page and I scrolled back a long time and
she deleted She hasn't posted really anything since like two since.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
This to how he's been totally and mia since this,
but her husband has not been. He has a YouTube
channel with one point two million subscribers where he still
actively posts regularly. And I was looking at what does
he do. He takes videos like powerwashing cars and like
fixing them up.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
But well, I'm sure a lot of people that are
watching his videos don't even realize that that he's associated
like with any of this, because if they don't talk
about it, how would you know unless you're like reading
news articles and stuff.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
And I was going back through I was on the
last couple of videos looking at the comments, and I
only saw one that was really recent calling them out
on what they did. So I don't know if somebody
is just really in my opinion, there's no way they're
not getting trolled regularly. I mean, it's pretty public information
that this guy's the father in the situation and that
this happened, So I feel like they have somebody really

(57:23):
on top of the comment section deleting anything negative.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
So the kid, so luckily the kid has.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I just can't I really can't believe this.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
When you're reading the article, you're just thinking they're talking
about a freaking a chihuahwah or something like You're you're
just like, you're literally talking about a human being right now.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
She said that.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
They were interviewing people. That's another thing I have questions about.
If you're rehoming your adopted child, do you get to
pick the next family that's taken the kid? I mean,
And it seemed like she was doing interviews on people
who would be best for him.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
It's just so weird.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
And so she hasn't posted since twenty twenty and deleted
any pictures of the kid off of her Instagram, but
still keeps her Instagram account open.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
It's very weird. I don't know why she keeps it open.
I could see her leaving the YouTube channel up because
she'll still continue to make money off of the videos
even if she's not posting anything new, and people are
obviously going back and trying to look at all the
old stuff. Is this legal to rehome a child?

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Well? Once, once you take a child on like that,
you're just essentially saying, like, this child is legally my child.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Now it's mine.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
How could you just be if you were a mom
who just said I don't want to handle this kid anymore.
I think, you know this kid's medical issues, just she
they should go to a different house. I mean, you
can't just like give your kid to someone else like that,
can you.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
I don't really, you know, it's it's so outrageous because
you'd never even hear of these things happening because they're
so outrageous.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
It's it's just really disgusting behavior. I don't know really
what happened behind the scenes, but like, let's say he
even attacked one of her kids or something because of
his condition, Like you're that kid's mom now, and that
could happen with your biological kids too, So are you
just gonna give up whatever? One of your biological kids
ain't perfect either. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
But the silver lining of this story is that the
child is no longer named Tuxley. I think that that's
the best thing that's ever happened to this kid.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
No, I do. At the end of the day, we're
saying all this stuff about how it's fucked up to
put him with a different family. But I think, I
really think at the end of this, it's probably better
off for him that he ended up because the one
hundred people they're monsters is better for him. Also, it's
like like she shouldn't really be able to keep her
other children either. This is like a borderline. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
It's such a it's such a weird territory because you
never even hear about things like this happening. But like
that would scare me to just let her have her
other kids. Like what if she gets a kid that's sick,
like her kid ends up having cancer or something. Is
she gonna not give the kid treatment and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I don't know. I just don't. I don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
She's just such I mean, I don't want to just
say she because the husband is equally as responsible.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
They're just scumbag people. I want to talk about the
name situation too. The kid obviously had a name. They
didn't get him until he was like two years old,
so he already had a name and they already changed it.
And then I'm assuming the new family changed his name.
Because of the high profile nature of the switch, yeah,
and because who the fuck is named Huxley? Like so

(01:00:53):
like of.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Course there's probably plenty of people, like I could do
a list of names. You're going to see it in
next year's Pottery Barn Christmas catalog on his stocking embroidered.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
It's also fucked up to change a child's name three
times in their when they're little kids.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
No, this kid's it's like got and fucked it. This
is the thing too. They they were saying that when
they went to pick the kid up that was living
with the foster parent, that the kid was attached to
the foster parent, and it was like obviously right, yeah,
and the dad had said in a previous episode that

(01:01:34):
it was very upsetting to take him away from then
you lost got rid of them after three years, yes,
and not to mention that this kid had attachments with
their siblings, like those kids are like his siblings, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
What I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
How long did they have the kid altogether?

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Till he was five? Yeah? I think they got him
in twenty seventeen and then by maybe twenty maybe they
only had him two years because people started calling them
out in like twenty twenty about why he wasn't appearing
in this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
But like even think about their own children, Like you're
just like giving away their brother, Like how do they
feel about that? They don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
The whole thing is so messed up. I don't know
who could possibly defend this. Once you take a child
and that as your child, it doesn't matter how they are,
if they're sick or whatever, that is your responsibility. And
it's really fucked up, all right. Next story, this is
another This is a doozy. So this one's from the
Reddit forum am I the Asshole? Which We've had a

(01:02:30):
couple stories come from this forum and they're always pretty entertaining.
But this chick is saying she got engaged, her family
was really excited, and then of course comes in the
asshole sister. That's like questioning the ring, saying it's flashy
and then questioning if the girl's fiance could even afford
the ring. So then she explains that it was a

(01:02:51):
lab grown diamond, which would make it a cheaper diamond.
And then this just starts like the sister fight of
the Sentry, right, And I'm sure everybody with a sibling
could agree that nobody could get under your skin quite
like a sibling, and even though I have a twenty
year age gap with the girls, they still know how
to push my buttons. But basically, the sister got really

(01:03:12):
pissed about the diamond being lab grown and just said
it doesn't have the same sentimental value because it was
made in a lab, and it's not a real diamond
because it was made in a lab. And then the
sister got pissed because the sister challenging the ring just
would not let it go. So she went back at
her and was like, well, is your daughter not a

(01:03:32):
real daughter because she was an IVF baby and she
was technically grown in a lab too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
So Hoti, so what do you think about this? I'm
just curious.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
I think that I think I don't think it's okay
to say that, but I think that the sister set
herself up for it. Like if the engaged sister just
brought that up out of nowhere and was like, your
kid's not a real kid because she was grown in
a lab, I think that's something really horrible you're saying

(01:04:04):
to somebody. Because she later was going on to detail
of the sister had really hard time getting pregnant and
how it was like a really emotionally taxing thing for
the family and everything. So I think if you have
that attitude in general that an IVF baby shouldn't be
considered a real baby because a couple couldn't naturally conceive
the kid, that is a fuck up ideology. But I

(01:04:24):
think because of the fight, it was like a crime
of passion of sorts. Right, you're fighting. Your sister just
won't get off your dick about your engagement for being
lab grown, which is honestly none of her business. Who cares,
And then it was just the only thing she could
throw back at her that was like a comparison.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
I'm actually sad that the one sister is a mother
because she acts like a fucking toddler. Yeah, like your
your sister gets engaged and has a bigger diamond ring
than you, and you're like going to downgrade it because,
by the way, a lab diamond is is a real diamond.
It's not that it's not real, it's just it's like
having this is honestly, like, this is how I think

(01:05:04):
of it. It's like growing tomatoes in my backyard versus
getting hydroponic ones that are grown in a farm that
tastes way better. Kind of it's the same exact thing.
Like they're both tomatoes, but like one of them is
grown under conditions to be perfect and round and flavorful,
and the other one's grown outside, and it just takes

(01:05:25):
a little bit. It's just a little bit of a
different situation. It's the same thing. It's just grown in
a lab. It originates from the same thing. They say,
like you have to be a super expert to even
be able to tell the difference between them, because you're
just growing it in a lab versus growing it naturally
occurring outside. It's kind of the same exact thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
I don't think the engaged sister would have ever said
the thing about IVF if she was not being berated,
And I think I think.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
It's a genius, Like I think it was genius for
her to say that to her, like that shut her
the fuck up, right, She needed to be shot the
fuck op, So this was perfect to say to her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
And most people on Reddit were on her side, So
I think that is a general consensus, right, But I
think you have to for any people. Again, I think
the people that were against it were like, you're both
children and you need to get your shit together.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Basically, yeah, I mean, but really it starts with the
one that started it. It's just so it's so petty,
it's just so petty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Like mind your business. Of course that was. You know,
if you're fighting with anybody but your sibling and they're
just pressing every button and it's like not even their
business to begin with, of course you're gonna say the
most hurtful, fucked up thing you can because you're just
like black outrage at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
I don't think it's a right statement to make in general.
I think if they were sitting at a family dinner
and no fight was happening, and she just said, you know,
my niece isn't a real baby because she's an IVF baby,
then you're fucked up for saying that. If you're gonna
use it argument with your sister's starting shit with you,
and you're just trying to give her an example of
why she's wrong. I don't know. They gotta they gotta

(01:07:08):
work on their relation. I think she was, yeah, they do, okay. Next,
recently this Only Fans check, Bonnie Blue broke a world
record by having sex with over one thousand men in
one day. But now today another girl on only Fans
named Lily Phillips will be having anal sex with as
many guys as possible. How do you think it's going
so far? It's happening right now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
I I'm gonna say something that's that's really unpopular for
the time that we're in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Right now, we've went through this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Whole thing of like we're not allowed to call people
prostitutes anymore, and they're sex workers and this is a
legitimate career, and I just think it's terrible for women.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
It's just fucking terrible, Like we don't we're.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Putting articles out and raising up these women who are
talking about having sex with people for money, and like,
just that's all you're good for is to use your
body to let someone fuck your asshole. Think about this,
Like that's what you're good for. How is that good
for women? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
It's gonna back at you and say that's a boomer
way of looking at it. Oh well, then I'm the
fuck out of me. Is so bad that we have
to it's not not just telling you what people are
gonna copect that's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Bullshit, because then everybody would have to and that's just bullshit.
Like I'm sorry, I just I don't want to hear it.
It's she she got so she had sex with one
hundred and one men a couple months ago for in
fourteen hours. And I didn't even talk about this story
because the whole thing obviously you could tell that I
get heated about it as it is. But she said

(01:08:47):
after the interview, she said, quote, I don't know if
I would recommend it. It's kind of like being a
prostitute in a sense. In a sense, No, it is,
because you're making money off of having sex with people,
and it's a different feeling. I don't know how to
explain it, saying she felt disconnected and all this stuff. Yeah,
because you're like bending over and letting strangers stick their
penis in your hole. Of course, there's no sense of attachment.

(01:09:11):
And how does that make you feel empowered and better
and making little girls who are looking up to you
and women feel better about themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
It's like, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
We shouldn't be pointing people towards this as a career.
I'm just sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Well, I want to say, like, I think, you know,
the argument of making sex for money is they've been
trying to shift like the marketability of it lately, right,
saying sex worker having only fans making it more acceptable
as somebody to do that as a job. But it
makes it hard to see it that way as a
millennial myself, when people are doing these like challenges and

(01:09:49):
trying to see how many people they can have sex
within a day, and you know, putting their health at risk,
and you know there's all these problems you can have.
I'm sure there's a risk of tearing in general, write
physical things, and then there's a risk of disease. And
then like you're saying, of course, it's not an intimate
thing because you're having sex with as many people as possible.
You're not trying to have a connection with somebody like that,

(01:10:10):
because you literally could not.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
I just don't see in any world how anybody thinks
that this makes women look better. You're just I don't
think it's about making You're just letting people come and
use your body to get off and leave. It's just
it's the weirdest fucking thing to me, like everything the
way it is, but especially this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
And also I don't think this is about making women
look better. I think that everybody is just so fucking
offended by anything today that we're making nice words for everything,
like I will never get over calling pedophiles maps, like
stop trying to make it better. It is what it is,
and stop trying to put a nicer label on it,
Like it just is what it is. I don't think

(01:10:51):
it's necessarily about like empowering women to be sex workers
or hookers or prostitutes or whatever. It's it's just putting
a nice word on it. It's it's it's pushed.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Down your throat every single day on the news and
like this is the second time I'm hearing about this
girl the other girl, Like they do these challenges because
they want the news to talk about it, and it's
working like that that all that does is show somebody
that doesn't know what to do with their life, like hey,
I could just go do this and make money, and
it's just like it's not a good road to go down.

(01:11:22):
You should try to be discouraging this as much as possible.
And it's just it, and it's dangerous for your body,
especially anal sex, Like anal sex has been deemed safe
to do in a relationship type of situation, but you're
at an increased risk for diseases because your anal canal

(01:11:44):
is lined, it's very thin, there's like a rich blood
supply there. Its hairs very easily because you don't lubricate
there like you do in your vagina, right, And all
it's going to do is introduce the potential for infection,
which is the biggest concerned honestly. But she could also
break essentially break her external sphincter, her anal sphincter, which

(01:12:07):
is what like holds your poopin and hold your parts in.
Why the fuck would you do that to yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yeah, because and like you should be embarrassed about this.
You shouldn't be sitting there like feeling good about this,
that you're doing anything good for society or for women
in general or for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Yeah, like you're saying, like anal sex is supposed to
be happening in like a more controlled environment, in a
relationship type setting, or you know, not having like thousands
of people doing it to you in one day, because
it's just too You're too vulnerable and it could hurt you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
I don't care what the fuck she does. She could,
she could have sex with a thousand dudes if she
wants to. That's completely fine. People could do whatever they
want to do. You don't have to be in a relationship,
to have sex.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
You could do whatever you want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
But just like stop acting like it's like it's a
positive thing. This should this shouldn't be like, oh oh,
she's gonna try this challenge again and she's in a
battle with this other girl to do.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
A bit more extreme challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
It's just it's just don't even talk about this stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
It's just weird.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Yeah, other death news.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
So this mom was getting ready for her son's birthday party,
running all over the place. I'm sure you know what
that's like when you have two young kids and you're
just like trying to do really anything. But she said,
you went in the bathroom for a couple of minutes,
and when she came out, there was dirt all over
her kids. They're toddlers, and she didn't really understand where
the dirt came from at first, but she was like,
I don't have time to deal with this. She cleaned
them up, vacuumed up the rest of the dirt, continued

(01:13:36):
on with their day and so on. So a couple
of days later, she's like walking around the house and
notices that this container that once held her grandfather's ashes
was empty. Yes, so her children basically ate their grandpap.
She thinks that they climbed up on a shelf. She
said they were out of reach, but their climbers because

(01:13:57):
they're you know, toddlers will get into whatever they want
to get into, and they must have went up there,
grabbed the container they were in, bit the lid off,
and then just like went to town with it. But
she's been trying to make light of the situation. She
called the grandmother and was like, you won't believe it,
but the kids ate grandpa, and like the grand everybody
in the family seems to be taking a while. And
I saw they made a funny follow up video where

(01:14:19):
they put they called the grandpa Papa, so they put
a sticker on the vacuum that said papa. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
You know, like we were talking about ashes earlier with
the tattoos and stuff. It's not bad. The kid's not
going to get sick. I feel like I could resonate
with this mom so much. There's so many times that
there's some weird shit, like there's weird orange shit all
over the carpet and you're like, what is that and
nobody knows anything, And then like later on you find

(01:14:49):
that one of your kids cut open a magic marker
and that's where it came from, or something like totally
don't think anything. That this mom saw dirt on their kids'
faces and was just like, where did you get that from?
Because kids just whatever? You know what I mean, It's
like kind of hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Actually, oh my god. All right, let's move on to
Questions of the Day. Every Friday on the at mother
Nose Death Instagram account, you guys get head over to
our story and ask whatever questions you want. First, do
you have to buy any of the gear you wear
or use during an autopsy or does the hospital provide it?
The hospital provides all of it to an extent, but

(01:15:24):
a lot of times they don't give you what you want,
so sometimes you could buy certain things. I always buy
my own cut gloves, which are gloves that I wear underneath.
So I would normally put on a pair of gloves,
like disposable latex type of gloves, and then put cut
gloves on top of those, and then put another pair

(01:15:46):
of disposable latex type of gloves. Latex in the morgue
is because most hospitals don't have latex, but some works
still allow you to buy like real Latex gloves. It
depends where you work, but you know the night trial
gloves or whatever you would wear to So there are
ones that they're made of a fabric that is difficult

(01:16:09):
to cut through with a knife, so it's just an
extra protection. Some of the hospitals I worked out have
just gotten them for us, and we've had so many pairs,
but then other it's just like there's one pair that exists,
so I always have bought my own like that, but
everything else, yeah, you can get from that. The hospital
should provide you with your equipment like that. All right.

(01:16:32):
Would there be any reason to amputate a limb during
an autopsy? I would say.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
No, no, not during a normal autopsy. There would never
be a situation. But let's say let's use the girl
that had the cancer in her arm for an example.
If there was a patient that was getting treated for
a certain type of cancer and they died as a result,
and the treatment didn't work, and maybe the oncologists and

(01:17:04):
the researchers wanted to see how the treatment worked, or
they were doing some kind of a study on it,
and the family agreed to it, there might be a
situation where you would do that in order to take
the tumor. But even in any cases, like even that case,
unless you wanted the full tumor on display. As it

(01:17:26):
relates to going into the bone and stuff, there's always
a way to preserve the arm to get it. So
in general, hands and feet and arms and legs are
usually not touched in autopsy in general unless we're looking
for something specific. But I can't ever think of a
situation where you would cut off somebody's limb unless it was,

(01:17:46):
like I said, for some weird research thing or something.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
All right, last, do your husbands listen to the podcast
every week? My husband was listening to it at the beginning,
but I feel like we just put too many episodes
out and he couldn't keep up slash. He has to
hear me talk all night long and every day, so
I'm sure he just needs a break. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Gabe's listened maybe five minutes of one episode. He doesn't
listen to it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Yeah, And there's like people he.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Says it gives them, like sometimes he gets anxiety because
he's like, I don't know what you guys are gonna say.
I don't want to know what you're saying just like whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Yeah, and like shout out to all our family members
and friends and stuff that listen. But if I usually
make fun of them or say anything, somebody will let
him know. So you guys, don't kind of tell him everything.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
By my my mom listens to every episode.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Laura does, our friend Laura.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
That we were talking about log last week. And our
cousins do too. I don't know which ones. I know
that Alan Andrea listen to a lot of our episodes,
but a.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Lot of Caine cousins do. Joey, Kathy, d Jim a lot.
I was at a baby shower over the weekend and
a couple of people came up to me said, they listen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Oh, our mail man does too, the Maleman Mike does.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Yeah, what's up my key?

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
And he's always he's always criticizing my episodes. The worst
one that he hated so far was the one that
I was talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Eating the pigeon.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
He was yelling at me on the front porch actually
about that. He's like, I'm sorry, I can't agree with
you about that. I'm sorry, And I was just like, dude,
I was joking, relaxed.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Whatever, Yeah, I mean we obviously appreciate when everybody listens,
but it's also this weirdness of like, we know we
have these listeners and stuff, but then when people come
up to us and start talking about it, I'm like, oh,
you listen, Yeah exactly. I don't know. It's just like
weird in between of it's very public, but at the

(01:19:48):
same time you feel like you're in this like private
little sector with your own audience. So yeah, it's funny,
it is interesting. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think
the husband's Karen, as we know Papa listen one time
and that it was the one and done for him.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
I'm not the best episode, Like this wouldn't be a
good episode either, because we're talking about anal sex and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Like somebody did ask as a question if pop Up
would come on the X Rated show, So I don't
think he's going to ever come on now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
The thing is is that we don't want to have
him on because I think that he would be very
quiet and reserved and you would think he was boring.
I feel like maybe a better opportunity would be to
just like secretly secretly record him and and then like
he wouldn't care, he wouldn't care. I'm just saying that,

(01:20:36):
like the doozies come out when he doesn't, when he's
not like a stand up comedian that would stand on
a stage like he the good things come out when
when we're having dinner with the family or something.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
I have to read you when he said to mo mom,
because it was when you were away, and I don't
even know if you know that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Now I know, is this the one? Yeah, I know
what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
He said to my grandmother, you really didn't lose your looks,
but that's according to me. Someone else might think you did.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
It's so funny because I totally got that text message
and I read it to Gabe and I was just
laughing because I'm like, and Gabe thinks it's funny too,
because he's, like, no one would ever doubt that your
dad loves your mom. They've been married for almost fifty
years years. But like, but like, he just says like
the most outrageous things that are so insulting and he

(01:21:30):
doesn't even realize it, like he he said to and
this is for my one of my cousins. Uh well,
Jimmy listens to our podcast all the time, Lenny's son,
so he'll get a kick out of this because he
might not know this story. But he'll say like, Lenny's
one of one of my first cousins, and Jimmy's my
second cousin is her son. But and he says to

(01:21:52):
about Lenny, like, oh, Lenny's she had the most she
has the most beautiful green eyes. She's the most beautiful
bride I ever seen her or something, and like, no,
the green eyes are a different thing. That's a whole
other story.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Beautiful bride.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Okay, so that his wife, his daughters, the green eyes,
the green eyes are a different thing. That that's I'm
mixing two stories. Yeah, So he says Lenny is the
most beautiful bride he ever seen, and then my mom's like, okay,
what about me?

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
What about your daughters?

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Like whatever, No, it's it's Lenny, right, It's so funny.
And he said it something about the green eyes. I
guess he was just like my dad.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
The prettiest green eyes. And then my Mom's like, well,
I have green eyes, like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
It's all the time. It's all the time, and it's
just hilarious. But like he just I don't know, he
just doesn't even like realize what he says.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
So now I guess he thinks that she that he
didn't think she lost her looks, but other people would
think it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
But it's a he just says stuff that's like So
it's like such a backhanded compliment all the time. What
time we were eating dinner and he was like, oh, Beth,
you made this and she was like yeah, why He's like,
it's terrible. It is very funt.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Yeah, so we'll try to, like, next time we get
together for a family dinner, we'll try to secretly.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Record him and maybe we could just like upload the audio.
I wanted to write a book like ten years ago
called Louisms and just like you know, because everybody has
something in their phone about something he said that was outrageous. Oh,
he got mad because he thought we were making fun
of him, which we are. We totally are. But I'm
going to start the list back up because the older

(01:23:36):
he gets, the more outrages the comments. Can't believe it
or not, it is, it's great, all right, Well, thank
you guys so much. If you have a story, please
submit it to stories at Mothernosdeath dot com and we'll
see you later in the week.

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Say yeah, thank you for listening. To Mother Knows Death
as a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant
a master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.
I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed
or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of

(01:24:11):
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media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based
on my experience working in pathology, so they can make
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