July 24, 2024 • 44 mins
In episode 26, Gandhi talks to writer Kyle Creek who gained a little extra fame on instagram as The Captain. Kyle discusses his issues with social media and the toll it took on his mental health, tries to help Diamond in the dating world, and calls out some very famous people who have blatantly stolen his intellectual property and passed it off as their own. You might be surprised!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What's up. It's sauce on the side. I'm Gandhi and
today we have an interesting episode ahead. But before we
get to.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
That, Hello Andrew, Oh, Hello Gandhi.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
How are you? I'm great?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
How are you great?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Why do you sound so happy? You sounded very menacing
to start? What do you mean, hello, Gandhi?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh, I'm not trying to be menacing. It just iss
for you.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Not a good look.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So who do you have on today?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Today? I have the Captain aka Kyle Creek. You might
know him on Instagram as are you ready s g
R st K. I still haven't figured out what that means,
and I hope I remember to ask him. But he's
a good time. He has a lot of stuff to say,
a lot of big thoughts, and he's just kind of
like a fun guy. So I said, we just get
to it.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Love that.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Are we still going by the Captain?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I mean a lot of people know me by it,
so it's kind of stuck. But I don't really use
it that much anymore. I prefer people call me Kyle.
I mean, let's be honest, it's not the worst nickname.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You also are an author. You have a lot of books.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, writer, I don't consider myself an author. I consider
myself a writer. I think the way I explain to
people's writers write about the world as it is, and
authors create worlds, and so until I do a novel,
I don't consider myself an author. And it's kind of
my way of just I don't know, pain and respect
to people that have done that, because it is so
difficult to write that style of the book.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Do you think you'll ever do that?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, that's kind of where I'm going now with my career.
And we were just talking before this. I mean, my
goal for the longest time has been to leave social media.
I mean I used to tell people back in probably
twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, when I was first starting to
get some notoriety online, I would tell people my goal
is to write a book a year and be left
the fuck alone. I'm at the point now where I
do use social media substantially less. I mean, I took
(01:47):
it off my phone in January of this year. I
don't even have it on my phone anymore. I haven't
been active on it for months, and it's been nice.
Why tired of it unfulfilling for the most part, and
I I kind of feel like social media's became a
lot more of a healthscape in the past few years.
I mean, I think social media used to be pretty
fun for me. I used to enjoy it. I thought
(02:08):
it was fairly challenging, and I liked trying to craft
messages that resonated but also you know, would would get shared.
I liked it. I thought it was you know, kind
of it's almost like a game at times. And once
they started putting algorithms in place and they started fucking
with people's reach, it just it became too mechanical for me,
you know, Rather than start doing like reels and start
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doing like these stupid, choppy short videos that everyone's doing
now to get attention, that's just it's not me and
I can't bring myself to do it. So I'd rather
just kind of, you know, disappear into the ether than
you know, become that person.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, you're lucky you have something to fall back on,
which it's not even a fallback. You started as a writer.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I mean, I have a day job. That's pretty
much been my whole career as an adult. Wasn't until
I got into advertising that I made good money as
a writer and on the side I didn't have much
of a social following, but I started writing a lot
of jokes that my clients would kind of say no
to because I was doing a lot of TV work
(03:05):
at the time, and I thought the jokes were good
enough to see the light of day, so I started
tweeting them instead, and they just kind of took off
and snowballed from there, and then I had this catch
persona was just me observing life and writing about it
the way I saw it and the way I was
experiencing it outside of my professional career, And that's really
what became, you know, the social media following that I have.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Now, how do you feel about the feedback that you
get from random people? Because that's actually for me, one
of the reasons I enjoyed following you is because you
say a lot of the things that I think, at
least I was thinking, and I don't necessarily know how
to craft it, and I would just retweet or repost
some of the things you said. But I know, based
on me reposting what people would respond to. How do
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you navigate that and does it bother you or do
you just laugh?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I used to try and do it intentionally. I used
to tell my frist starter. I used to Yeah, I mean,
that's why I have instigator on my profile. I used
to tell my friends, I know I have a good
post when I lose more followers and I gain because
it hits a nerve. And then at some point I know,
you know, people will come back on the back end.
But I've had several people and follow me over the
years and then write me apologies and like, I don't know,
(04:10):
I don't know theyn follow me. I don't pay attention
that closely. But I'll have someone write me and say,
you know I hadn't followed you two years ago because
it's something you said, And I just want to say
I came back and I thought about it, and you
were right. You want people to feel something. You want
people to laugh, you want people to be scared, you
want people to cry, like that's your goal as a writer.
And so I always figured if I elicited enough emotion
that someone felt like they had to unfollow me, that
was successful.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh my god, I must be so successful.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
First of all, who is the majority of your audience
when you'll hear insights? What does that breakdown?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think it's like sixty forty primarily females. Oh okay,
I mean I used to rag on like dating practices.
That was kind of like my thing is. I would
just talk shit on all the dumb stuff people do dating.
I was always bashing on douchebags and you know, shit
that i'd done myself when I was younger, stuff I
still saw my friends doing, and so I was always
kind of bashing that. And I think that's also why
I gained, you know, a little bit of a female following.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Do you ever look back anything you've posted in cringe
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
All the time. I read my old books, Like people
will bring like my quote me books to me to
sign a book event, and I'll flip through them sometimes
and I'll read stuff I wrote and I'll be like, oh,
fuck that guy.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And quote so they're quoting you.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I I think it's uh. I think if you don't
look back on your past self and cringe a little bit,
it's a sign that you're not growing as a person.
Like I think everybody I know that is a good person,
or everyone I know that's an interesting person looks back
on their past self and doesn't like certain aspects of
who they were, And it's unavoidable, and I think that's
what prevents a lot of people from pursuing something they enjoy.
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I mean, they're too afraid of criticism, they're too afraid
of regret, and so they just go through the motions.
In ten years now, they look back in their life
and yeah, they don't regret anything, but also they haven't
done anything. And I think, you know, the fear of
being criticized online is just it destroys people's ability to create.
It destroys people's ability to live, you know. It influences
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people to break up with people they shouldn't break up with,
Like your friends get in your ears, or random straight
are talking to you about your relationship. You'll make choices
to placate an audience that honestly doesn't give a fuck
about you. I would love to see social media kind
of just fall off in our society. I actually think
it's been as much as it's helped my career and
someone who really has benefited from social media, I do
(06:18):
feel it's been a net negative for society as a whole,
oh for sure. And I think we would all be
a lot happier without it.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
People are always talking shit that are not in the arena.
They're in the seats watching you, and they're telling you
how you need to curate your content specifically for them,
which strives me insane, and I try, I try really
hard not to let that bother me. Every now and
then it dings me and I get annoyed. But for you,
having such a big following, has it ever affected you
in your mental health at all?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah? It has, Okay, I mean there is times when
it gets to you, and there is times when I think.
I think what's gotten to me the most is when
I feel like I've lost touch or like sometimes I'll
look back and be like, oh, I used to write
better than I do now, and that'll create a whole
bunch of insecurity. And then if I'm in that state
of insecurity and I get on and read too many
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negative comments, when I'm in that state, they could be
pretty devastating and derail means. So, I mean, I was
suicidal for a while when it was really really bad.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So like, at the height of things going well for
you and your podcast, I.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Literally got my first major book deal and thirty days later.
It is probably when I was at like my peak
suicidal ideation. Wow, and I had you know what I'd
always worked for, and it was because I just didn't
have myself like I you know, the book deal was
associated with the Captain. The book deal was for the Captain,
and so it just like I just didn't like myself.
(07:39):
I didn't like who I become. And It's part of
what's so refreshing now about not using social media is
I actually, for the first time feel like I'm making
money and I'm making a living again, as as myself
and not having to be something I'm not. You know,
I had to really kind of adopt that post in
ghost philosophy where you just post and to leave. But
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then I feel guilt because it's like, oh, people are
taking time to write these meaningful comments and I should
probably get back to them. And I used to tell
myself I had to answer every DM and I used
to tell myself, if someone's taking them time to write me,
I need to write them back. And that was that
destroyed my mental health. I was way way, way too
involved in Instagram. It became, you know, a huge part
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of my life and my identity and the idea of
not being relevant or the idea of losing what I'd
worked for, like scared the hell out of me. What
I'm doing now work wise is the work I've always
wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I feel like Instagram has created this very bizarre world
where everybody cares what something looks like and not what
it actually feels like. It has ruined dating. Diamond here,
who never wants to talk about her dating life, So
we're not going to talk about your dating life. But
skoot over to a microphone real quick.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
All right, let's rip her apart. Let's rip it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, no, no. I just laugh at Diamond because I
always say she is the queen of a tiny red
flag and she'll never talk to somebody ever again, which
I think is part of social media making you think
that people only have green flags all the time and
there's never anything wrong with somebody. So if you find
one little thing you bounce. I don't know if it's
social media.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Oh, it's just you, it's just me, like I do.
It's certain things that I just I'm like, I don't
really have time to worry about that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Red flaggers are like that that they talk.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
About the ick.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I get the ick very.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Often, Like, what's an example.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Oh my god, I saw a video of this guy
that I thought was cute walking out of the airport
for so all, Why is someone recording you walking out
of the airport.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think it's weird.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
But his backpack was on his back and one side
was like off, and I'm like, that was so irritating
to me because I'm like, I know you feel this,
like fix it is this thing on? How do you
not feel that like this, like your backpack is.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Off of your shoulder?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
That's yeah. That might not be social media. That might
just be her. Yeah, but a little fucked.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Up Diamond is a lot fucked up, and that's why
I love her. It's one of my favorites. But I
think that is partially social media because you never would
have seen that guy with that backpack walking out of
the airport until you were actually there with him and
might have had some type of connection.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's a good point because you know, for the most part,
you know, and when you used to date someone, you
only really knew what you saw of them when you
saw him on like a Friday or a Saturday, so.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Like, which is the real version of that.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, and you would you wouldn't have noticed everyone in
their little mistakes or mishaps or problems that end up
on social media, and so I think that happened. What's
happened for the most part of social media is this
idea that people think they have options when they don't. Oh,
I mean that's like diamonds. I think that's the real
Dutch on social media.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
It's horrible when you think about like people being in
relationships and like they say that cheating is more like
people are cheating more now. I don't really think so,
but I think it's more obvious because they're on Instagram
liking pictures of women that men are and women too,
but like men are on Instagram liking pictures of women
that they'll never meet and thinking that they have Yeah,
(10:52):
they think that they can. You know, why are you
wasting your time liking something She's never going to see it?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You lose her.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I agree with you on them, but only in the
sense that I find it disrespectful, because I do feel
like it's just a waste of energy and time. And
I think, you know, I understand, I understand that there
might not be intention there, and some guys are like, oh,
I just like them because I think she's hot, But
I still think it's just like a waste of the energy,
Like you're better off putting an energy into something else.
(11:19):
So me personally, you know, in a relationship, like I've
never liked or creeped other photos like that or like
so they're in liked. I didn't even I mean, I
don't even follow people in social media as I know
them personally, and so I do think it's kind of
pathetic when you see these guys that are in relationships
and you look at who they're following, and like fifty
of them are like OnlyFans models. It's discussing.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay, it's a waste.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's a waste of your energy. It really is a
waste of energy observing a.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Lot about dating and initially starting in that realm of
kind of observations, maybe advice about dating. Do you have
any for our diamond? As she ventures out into this
world here we go?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I mean, I mean, I think the idea that she
started with about the idea of little red flags, like
everyone's going to have those. I think it's good to
have deal breakers. I think you absolutely should have things
that you don't compromise on, but little red flags like
a backpack strap, I think I think.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Is I can see it right now.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I think it is incredibly fucking silly, and you're going
to You're gonna miss out on a lot of good
people by finding fault in them. Say this is her,
she's like he like, I could find fault anybody. You
could give me anybody in the world, and I could
find fault in him, because that's just the truth. That's
life and deal breakers are one thing. But little red
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flies like that, you're gonna miss out on good stuff.
You really are, because here's the thing is, you have
those two there's looking there's a look at you and
go look at her. Ick look at that. It gives
me and it's just the truth, and you got to
look past that stuff. I just think it would be
very hard to date and be turned off by a
backpack strap.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Oh my god, No, it's very easy.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Like I'm easy to.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Be turned off or easy to date, because it sounds
like dating is hard.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
No, well, dating is. I mean they say it all
the time. The dating pool has p in it. You know,
we we get it. It's a mess. But like also,
it's just I could see the guy's backpack off of
his shoulder right now.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But he's a good looking guy.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, but that made him not so cute.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
It's just it's weird to me, Like I don't know.
It just makes me wonder how your brain works, you know,
how it's wired that you feel the strap.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Wanted to go to dinner with him and find out.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Say, she won't do it. Now, it's like dead, it's
dead in the water. It's not gonna happen. It's okay.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah. It'd be different if you'd gone to dinner with
that guy and he like snapped at a waiter and
like he like made a big deal and like, you know,
threw a fit over some dumb shit at dinner. Like
I get it, Like that's actually that's a character trait, right,
I think judging someone off a character trait is more
accurate as opposed to a backpack strap, which has nothing
to do with character.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I gotta say on that though, more than the backpack
strap bothering me, I would be a little suspicious of
why you have somebody recording it as you're walking out
of an airport. That would be like more if the
red flag to me, like that, what's happening?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
The thing is like that shit's become so normalized with
social media.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I hate it. They need make cameras more expensive, I
can tripods more expensive.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They need to ban tripods and gym like I agree,
Like I go to a public gym and if I
see someone with a tripod, I legitimately want to kick it,
like it pisses me off. And I don't understand why
gyms don't ban them, because if you open a gym
and you had a big sign that says no tripods,
keep your influencer shit at home. Do you know any
people with join your gym just because you're taking a
stand on that stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
My gym says it, but people still do it constantly,
And I just think in my head to like, who's
watching this? Who's actually watching you work out at I'm
not going to say the gym, but at this gym right,
this is very stupid. I hate it. I hate the tripods.
And everybody has a podcast now which I'm trying to
get you to do. Are you going to do it?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I don't want to fall into the category of everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
No, but I think you actually have things to say
where I what I've been seeing a lot, and granted
it's my social media, so the algorithm is feeding me
what I'm looking at and just giving me more of it.
But I see a lot of dudes sitting in a
room talking about how women suck and what women need
to do differently, and I find that fascinating. And I
don't know how all of them just came up with
pot and people are watched. It's insane to me.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
What's stupid too, those You got people that don't have
podcasts that are recording videos of them wearing headphones talking
into a microphone just so they can have clips to
post on social media and look like that of a.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Podcast that they should have known that existed.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
That's like a new thing people are doing, like they're
not even on a podcast, but they'll get a mic
and they'll put headphones on, they'll record themselves singing like
some kind of life advice, and they'll clip it and
they'll post that are real to try and look at
that podcast. And that's my biggest issue with social media,
and it's probably why I've taken a step back from it,
is I think it's just given everybody this idea they're
all a star and they all have something that needs
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to be said, and it's just like everyone thinks they're important.
And you know, I was reading recently that. I think
it was the company Lego did a study a couple
of years back, kids between like eight and eleven years
old in the UK and the US what they wanted
to be when they grow up, and the number one
thing is a YouTube content creator. Wow, that's what kids
want to be these days. And I think that is
(15:56):
I think that is incredibly fucking depressing, and I think
it just shows a huge lack of imagination, but it
also shows like kind of where we're steering our youth.
I had a day. My friend calls it my Kanye
moment because I had a day. I had a day.
Rout was just fed up with it. And it was
probably like in twenty seventeen or something, but I had
written something that got reposted by several of those large
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meme accounts, you know, like fuck Jerry, Yeah, fuck Jerry,
the fat Jewish, he's.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
The worst, the beach steals everybody's everything.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yet anyway, what everyone and he does, I mean, just
don't get me started on Jay Shetty. His whole backstory
is bullshit.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And there's like you can see Andrew was here right now.
Andrew has a whole Ja Shetty conspiracy theory. He said,
he's going down.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
He should go down. I mean I've I've had my
content post on his page back in the day where
it's like his team would just take something, erase your name,
write his name beneath it, and post it unreal and
that's how he made it following. And so I had
a day back in like twenty seventeen where i'd had
I'd written something. I can't remember what it was, but
it got reposted by all these big meme accounts. So
I screenshot at all of them and I post at
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all of them, and I was like, hey, fuck Jerry,
fuck you. I wrote this two years ago, and I
had like that's part of the reason why I always
took the screenshots on twitters, because I had a timestamp. Yeah,
and this is before you could fake like tweets really easy.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
But I know you can do that. I am missing out.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I would do it, so I had proof of when
I actually wrote that, and I had him in books.
And so I had a day where I called out
every account that was ripped me off and I posted
like twelve things in a row, and it was like
Beige Card again. It was all these huge accounts. So anyway,
I got my account shut down temporarily for cyberbullying.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It was a cyber bully.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
That was a cyber bully for calling these accounts out.
And that's the only time I've ever had my account
shut off. And then I had another time where I
got into a beef with a comedian who had posted
something of mine, and he he posted something of mine
and then people were writing comments like saying, oh, I
love this, this is so great, and the way he
was responding, he was taking credit for it, like he
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created it. And I was like, I was sitting there
and I texted one of my buddies and I was like,
watch it. I'm about to post in ten minutes and
it's still a my Instagram. It was Dane Cook, and
so I.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Dane Cook is still doing comedy, yes, is Yeah, that's
the most shocking part of this whole thing, right, So.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I wrote, like this big, long thing just kind of,
you know, ripping into him for stealing. And he's like
a known joke thief. I know a lot of comedians
have actually had problems with him. So I ripped him
apart and then I think I think he might have
reported or someone else did. But I almost got my
account shut down for that too, same things cyber bowling.
But that's the only time I've really had issues online.
I've watched countless celebrities rip my shit off, and I've
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contacted some of them and they've been good about it.
Like I've contacted some of them and said, hey, I
don't know if someone at your team, you know, screenshot
of that for you, but I wrote that, and they'll
be good and they'll credit me, and some of them
actually become friends of mine. I actually become friends with
some of them strictly because they ripped my shit off
and then I wrote them to call them out. And
I've usually I've usually always tried sending a DM to
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be like, you know, listen, I know the internet shit
gets ripped off all the time. You probably didn't know that.
But I wrote this, and it's like fifty to fifty.
Some of them were really cool about it, and some
of them like fuck you, and they blocked me in immediately.
So I've been blocked by a lot of big accounts
just for calling them out for that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Aren't like celebrity accounts, not.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Celebrities, but just like big meme accounts. I think what
blows my mind about that is the fact that people
think it's okay to do it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's wild. And not only do people think it's okay
to just steal content left and right. It happens to
us all the time. We will say something on the
show and the next day it's a meme and people
are just posting that, like we didn't just say it,
and it's radio so I can't go back and take
a screenshot of it.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
You know. I want to talk about social media being
a net negative. I mean, there's the mental health aspect
of it, but also I just think it's really crushed
people's critical thinking. It used to be where you take
an information and you form your own thought about it,
and now, instead of forming the thought, you just take
the information and you don't think about it. I just
think it's lost a lot of meaning.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I could see that. I want to go back to
the celebrity part of what you were talking about, because
you started off, like you said, copywriting, then getting into advertising,
then your social media account blows up, and now you're
interacting with celebrities. Do you ever take a step back
and think this this is bizarre?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Do you think this is exactly the way I thought
this was gonna come no.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Very very weird. I have. I have friends of mine
now that I remember watching in movies when I was
a kid, and like I remember, like I'll be at
dinner with them and we become a good friends and
I'll be like, man, I'm read being in high school,
like watching you in the movie and it was just
so weird. Like, whether you choose to believe in the
law of attraction or not, you should believe that you
can change your life. You could have a whole podcast
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on just the way. I think victim culture has taken
over society too.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You know we talk about that all the time.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, it's like it's like who can have the shittier life? Right,
Like who can sell, you know, tell the saddest story.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And I understand, like some people who have great lives
really want to be a press and they really want
to feel like they're struggling. Just enjoy it. Enjoy your
great life. That's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Or you'll have someone who genuinely is having a really
hard time and they decide to finally be vulnerable and
share it. And so they share it and they get
a ton of feedback, and now they're addicted to this
feedback loop. They're like, hey, I told a story about
my boyfriend cheating on me and how it broke me,
and look at many comments I got, and then they
lean into that, Okay, I'm just gonna tell more sad stories.
The victim mentality is probably probably the most detrimental thing
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you can do to your life or anyone around you,
Like it's so easy to think everything's bad when you're
stuck in that loop.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
It definitely is. What do you think about cancel culture?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I think you have to allow yourself to be canceled.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I've been saying this for a long time. I don't
really believe it exists.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I believe it exists in the sense that people try
to do it, which they.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Try, but only if you acquiesce does it actually happen.
If you just keep saying like, oh, I go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I believe it's real, but I believe you. I believe
it's real in the sense that people attempt to do it,
and I think it's bullshit. But at the same time,
I think you have to choose to be canceled, Like
I actually have that in the book speech therapy, like
what to what to do if you're canceled?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Did you have you been canceled?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I've had people try all the time. Like I've said
plenty offensive things that people have tried to cancel me for.
And one of my favorite things is I love watching
people double down.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I love I love too, I tell time and all
the time. I love when people are like, no, I'm
not sorry.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's my favorite thing about Dave Chappelle is I love
watching someone who is that intelligent and clever and good
at what they do double down.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I know in this business that we're in, people are
so worried about it all the time, and I say,
just say what you have to say. People are gonna
get over it. Especially with social media moving at the
speed that it does right now, people forget you don't
ever remember.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Seventy two hour rule. Yeah, like in seventy two hours,
they'll be pissed about something else.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Exactly, and you can just move on with your life
and nobody cares anymore, which is great and terrible at
the same time. I'm very interested, and we can do
this off the air, because I'm sure you don't want
to like shit on anybody, but I really want to
hear the rest of your ja schetty stuff, because when
I tell you.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'll shoot on Jay Shatty all day. I have no
I have I have I I have no problem calling
out people that are plagiarists.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Okay, so it's the plagiarism that bothers you, not the other.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I probably don't know enough about the other stuff, Okay,
be honest. I've seen it happen where and this was like,
you know, when he was just getting his come up
as a career. I've seen posts where he just puts
his name on word for words stuff other people have written.
Plagiarism to me, when you put your name on something
and you claim you've done it is like a kin
to like murder.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You would send someone to death for plagiarism.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, okay, we need to go back to Babylonian law
and be chopping off hands and shit, because I think
people would actually be a lot. And I always tell
people this, like I missed the old the Wild West,
when someone cheated at a game of cards and you
could take him on the street and shoot them with
a revolver. Like I missed the fact that you could
be like all right, high noon, you just cheated. I
watched you cheated this hand of cards. High noon, We're
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gonna go out there and we're gonna have a problem
with it, like.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
An you want to bring back the duel?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yes, okay, I know problem if if I think if
two grown men today want a duel, they should be
allowed to. And I know there's states that allow it's
called mutual combat. I know Texas is one of them.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Of course, Texas one of them.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
If you go up to a cap up in Texas
and you stay me and this individual, if agreed to
mutual combat, we're gonna fight. The cop won't do anything.
He'll let you, guys fight it out.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
The cop will let you to pull out a gun
and shoot at each other.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I don't know how far it'll go, but he'll let
They'll let you fight.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But at the very least like fists.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
They'll let you fight, fly, don't let Yeah, they'll let
you fight and they won't stop it. How do you
know this because it's a mutual combat law.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Have you done this?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
No? But I respect it, and I'm telling you, like
if you wanted a Babylonian law and chop people's thumbs off,
it's probably where it should start. So you can no longer
use your smartphone like i'd before it. Man, I would
be one hundred percent for that as a forflagiarizing people online.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
So please know when somebody steals from Kyle Creek, he
thinks about chopping off your thumb.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yes, and I would maybe shooting you. I would support
that in a court proceeding, for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Listen, they think that I'm insane because of a lot
of the way that I feel about stuff. Any think
I'm too passionate.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well, you know the French are still using a guillotine
to like the seventies. No, I did not know that
the last used to the guillotine in France, I think
was nineteen seventy seven. So like over insane, Like over
here in America it was all like flower power and hippies,
and over in France it was like bag gettes and
bloody heads, like and there's a photo of it. It
was like it was a convicted murderer. And there's a
photo of a medieval guillotine just like you would imagine
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a guillotine would look. And there's a crowd of people
standing around watching this guy gaguillotine in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's psychotic, that's insane. But you you're all about it,
you want to bring it back.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I think I think it changes people's characters.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
You're into like chopping off body parts, heads, thumbs.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
If it holds people to a higher standard, yes, And
I kind of feel like that's why society is the
way it is. There's no there's no repercussions for people anymore.
Like people are getting off with doing like heinous, awful,
terrible crimes and they're getting out. I mean, there's a
reason why when you used to sail into a port
as a pirate, they had like pirates hanging out that
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port to tell you, like, we don't we don't tolerate
that shit here. And I feel like a lot of
society I went back that you would only have to
go back to it for literally like five days. If
you did like, if you did for like five days.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Dead bodies, people that deserve it.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Okay, if you do that for like five days, it
would be enough for people to be like, oh fuck,
they're serious.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I don't disagree with that. Actually, I just want to
know what all of the hangable offenses are because you're
saying plagiarism, I'm not really sure. Oh okay, So thumbs
off for plagiarism. What's the hangable offense?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Uh, you know, murder, rape, anything involving kids like that
kind of stuff. I mean, all day, string them up. Okay,
so I got nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
If you can build society the way that you want
it to be built, you're going to bring back death
public death for five days.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I'd be like Vlad the Impaler, but with better style.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Oh really, well, how would your style be better?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
You know, a nice Victorian code or something.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Listen, I have an idea. I bring this up in
every podcast, almost every podcast. I want to start a
podcast called Can I Touch It? And I just suit
up and whatever I need to suit up in, and
I try to touch all the animals that in my
head I think I'd be able to touch because they
will like feel that I'm a good person and they
won't attack me.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Is that a podcast or like it's more like a YouTube.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It will be both. Yeah, it would be like a
recorded You could definitely.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Watch you up and just hear you scream.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Absolutely, I'm telling you, I don't think I will scream.
I think we will get along very well. I just
start with a platypus. Okay, I think I could touch
a platypus I think would be okay. I know they
have a little bit of poison.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, a little poisonous spurs and yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And they're the best animal ever.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I love blooming octopus.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So I hear I saw a lady that had one.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Honor wearing a glove or are you doing a bare handed.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I would have to wear a glove because it will
be very danger because it'll be very short lived if
I don't have a glove.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I think you're only allowed to wear a glove on animals.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You don't care about people's fingers. We've established.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I'm just saying, like the danger has to be there, though,
Like you could wear a glove if you're touching a bear,
because the danger is still there, right because a bear
doesn't matter. It can rip your arm off. But if
you're wearing a glove to touch a blooming octopus, that
defeats the purpose.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
But a blue wearing octopus could poison me, So I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Part of it, that's the danger part of it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So the company is not behind me on this. I've
really tried, but I've already started. I've started touching all
the things I could possibly touch.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
What you just go to the zoo here and touch things.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
No, but you can. Did you know you can? You
can get behind the scenes with a lot of the
zoo stuff. So penguins you can't touch them. I got
bitten by a penguin. It was the worst bite I
think I've ever had in my entire life.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Monkeys, fifty to fifty monkeys are sketchy.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Monkey scare me. I've never understood why anyone won a
monkey as a pet.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I understand it. I would never understand.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Oh, I think I think monkeys are.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Creepy because they're like little humans.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, but they're like little humans that are like terrible
little humans.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Like they're like toddlers.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
No, like they're worse because a toddler doesn't have that
kind of strength or teeth. It's like, it's like everything
you would not want your child to be is what.
A monkey is stronger than you as sharp teeth, they're
fucking crazy, They're fast, like everything you don't want your
child to become. That's why I'm neuriused why you have
monkey as a pet. It's like purposely being like I
want the most ill behaved, horrible child, but I also
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wann't to have enough strength to rip me in half,
and then you get a pet monkey. I've never understood it.
It's stupid.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Specifically chimpanzees, those were the tough. I got bitten by
a monkey. The monkey had no teeth. It was one
of the worst bruises I've ever had in my life.
It was so bad. It was a lump in my
thigh for probably three or four weeks.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Because it went for it. Humans will pull back a
bit because, like we kind of know them pain were
inflicted by animals, don't They don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, that monkey was like, please go fuck yourself. Horseshoe
crabs were good, Sharks were good, fox were good.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Snakes.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I've touched a lot of snakes.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Like poisonous ones.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
No, I haven't touch a poisonous one.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I have a snake guy, so I think he'll let
me come.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
There's a show where these guys just let like animals
sting and bite them. I had camera what it's called.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I've seen these guys before because they've gotten it from
snakes and been and been completely and.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
They'll let like these giant hornets, or they'll they'll let
like these really poisonous spiders like to let like a
black widow bite them. It's called Kings of Pain. And
then they rate it on like a scale and they
let all sorts of just like really toxic, nasty insects
by them.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
They only had two seasons. I wonder why are they alive?
Let's see, Yeah, we had We have a friend who's
an African safari tour guide and he said the thing
that scares him more than anything, more than the lions,
the hyenas, panthers, leopards, whatever it is, he's the black
mamba is the scariest thing you'll ever encounter.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
That's super super fast and crawly toxic.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I believe I could touch it that I would watch,
you would watch me die.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yes, that's the whole point of that show.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I'm just saying someone's gonna steal this at some point
because I talked about as.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
To say, Kings of Pain, I think kind of tried
to do that. But the reason it's interesting because that
you have to have the danger. It has to be dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I think it would be dangerous, But.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Nothing dangerous about touching some of these animals with the
glove on.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Okay, so some of them we won't wear the glove,
but if my hand gets bitten off in the first round,
Like it's just going to kill the season.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But everyone's going to watch that episode, and.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Thank god, we'd have one strong viral episode.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Just go die, put that on YouTube, get some ad revenue.
You get a couple million views. You're good.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So your world so far. We are bringing back the guillotine. Yes,
we're bringing back hanging people in public for five days.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, that's all you need.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
That's a duel.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, duels for sure if two people agree on.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
For sure, and chopping off people's fingers for plagiarism.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, thumbs where else? I think that's probably a good start,
a good start.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, I think it's definitely wod You know what I
think we should do. I think we should allow people
and this would really help the dairy industry too, specifically
egg farmers. We should allow people to get one egg
a day, and if someone pisses you off, whatever they
piss you off for, you can throw one egg a day.
You only get one, so you have to be really
discerning about whether you want to release that egg or not.
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And if you save them all up for a week
and someone really pisses you off, you could throw all
seven but I think that if we sort of police
society that way, or you just can't walk around being
a douchebag because you might get hit with an egg,
people would up right differently.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Well, it used to be like that where like, you know,
people just punch you in the mouth. I mean, Mike
Tyson has that famous quote where he says, you know,
the problem is like people don't get punched in the
mouth anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So would you bring back a punch of the mouth
as well?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Dude? If you're talking shit to someone and you get
punched in the mouth and you deserved it, I'm all
for that.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Men and women equal opportunity.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I think depends on the level of what's being said.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
So what could what could a woman say to you
to deserve a punch in the mouth?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
To me, yeah, nothing, I mean because I I don't
know that a woman could get under my skin in
that way.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Because I just have like a different I view it differently.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Do you value us less?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
No? I think I just view it as I view
men with a different kind of level of like the
character I expect from them. I guess, Okay, it's the
same reason why I say, like two men dueling and like,
you know, a game of cards. It's like I just
kind of feel like I hold men to this certain
standard that I feel like society is lost. I would expect,
you know, men to behave a certain way, but you.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Expect women to just be crazy, you expect that.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I'm way more forgiving of it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Is it because we're smaller? Why you more forgiving?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I think it's just me being polite. I think I
think I think it's a way. I think just it's
a way, like I think, I really do think it's
just it's like a polite thing to do. It's because
I don't consider it as much of a threat as
I would like. So if a man is trying to
get aggressive with me, like I know, there's like certain
things that are going to be said, or like there's
a certain like repercussion that's likely to happen unless I mean,
have you seen the movie swim Fan.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, a long time ago, The Stalker Girl that you
Ain't Mad?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Why that's a hard movie to watch because that was
like super vindictive kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I love that swim Fan is your trigger.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Dude, you should watch that movie. That lady is like
she was like that's like straight up psychologic like trying
to ruin someone's life.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Kind of did they ever date? Was there like a
thing I don't remember, you just remember it was so
mad that she's the girl.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
That I remember watched it in high school and being like,
whoa this this like makes me mad to watch.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Do you ever? Do you ever have any encounters with
like stalker like people off?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
But again, it's not something that's really bothered me.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
And yeah, this is you're a big guy, like soccer.
Is that that bothers me?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I mean some if some lady pulled a gun on me,
I mean, no whole are barred at that point. But
I do think probably some of it comes from the
fact that I'm fairly confident, like my size, and then
again it just comes down to the level of respect.
And I think I have a pretty good sense of
when people are trying to push my buttons too, and
I know that a lot of times people want a
certain reaction.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
And so it's kind of like in person or online.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
In person too, like really like I've steered away from
a lot of like when I was younger, you know,
going on Utah. I mean there's a lot of bar
fights that happen.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
In like a lot of shit talkers in Utah.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, but it's like country bar kind of stuff, Okay,
I mean it's a lot of country boys at some
of those places.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I don't go to country bars, and so.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Like I kind of always knew when like they were
trying to start a fight, and I was like, that's
the reaction they want. So at that point's like you
do the opposite thing and it kind of irritates them more.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
So your world is shaping up to be a place
of I guess we would say violence.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
It's a place of respect.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
It's a place of respect, and when there's no respect violence.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
It worked for a long time.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I'm on board with this for the most part. I
think I'm on board with it, and now it doesn't anymore, saying.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
A lot of countries were founded on that kind of stuff.
I joke about things like cutting people's thumb off. But
then part of me is like it holds people to
a level. It holds people, It holds people to a
level that I think it ultimately creates more self respect.
And I just think a lot of people have gotten
away with too much. I think people are too comfortable
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talking shit on other people. I think people are too
comfortable judging others. I think people are too comfortable insulting others.
I think people are too comfortable meddling in other people's lives.
I feel that's the biggest drain social media has had
on society.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Okay, so then I will I'll leave our audience with
the answer to this question. Through everything, through your journey
and what you've been doing, are you happy right now?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
What would you like to be different?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I do think there's things in my life I need
to improve. I think my relationship. I think I'm on
a good path towards fatherhood. I do think I can
be a better father. And there's a lot that I
want to accomplish in my career that I've yet to accomplish.
And I think one of my biggest issues is I
struggle with being happy than now. And I've realized that
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about myself because I'm very gold driven. I achieved something
that I'm just like, what's next, What's next? And so
probably one of the things that I know that I
have really sucked at in my life is celebrating my wins.
Like when some good happens, I don't really celebrate it.
I just I moved to the next thing, and it's
something that I'm actively trying to get better at. You know,
I feel like I feel like a lot of my
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success has come from the fact that I'm never satisfied.
But at the same time that has also caused probably
some of my greatest pain in life. And so it's
it's something I'm aware that I need to work on
and I don't. I'm not gonna lie to someone and
tell them that I don't, because I know I do.
I know I struggle with that.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Has writing these books been therapy for you as well?
While you give people advice, most.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Of the stuff I write is advice to myself.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
You're talking to yourself.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, most of the stuff, and I've said this before,
most of the stuff I write is things that I
need to hear or things that I needed to hear
at times like I'll look back and be like, man,
if I would have known this six months ago, it
would have made that situation easier. That's also kind of
why I feel like so much responsibility for what I write.
And it's the reason why like I'm so against like
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sponsored ads and kind of selling out. Is I need
my work as much as other people need my work
because I feel lost when I don't write, and writing
forces me into this state of introspection that I wouldn't
have otherwise, because when I sit down and I think, Okay,
what am I going to write about today? Ninety five
percent of the time, it's what am I currently feeling? Okay, Like,
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what am I dealing with right now? Particularly with what
I've done with my substack the past few weeks, you know,
I started kind of shifting my substack to things that
are current on my mind, what am I currently struggling with,
And a lot of it's me processing it and coming
to terms of it, or it's me giving myself the
advice that I know I need at the time.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
So I people want to find your books? Where can
they find them?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Amazon is where they're all available. If you search Kyle
Kreek as a Captain, or you can search like any
of the titles, if you search like speech Therapy or
fucking History. I mean, it'll come up. And then my
Amazon pages there that has everything.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
And you want them to get it now because you
just sold one of these.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I want them to definitely buy Speech Therapy now while
it's a self published book, because it's money directly in
my pocket, and I need some goats and that's my
goat fund.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
A lot of questions about these goats, but okay, well,
thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thanks for
spinning so much time with me. And I'm sure we'll
see you again when you come back through New York.
All right, Kyle Creek, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Kyle was awesome. Love him for coming in. He's a
good time. I feel like it would be nice to
have him back. In light of all of the things
that have happened over the last week or two.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
It's insane that we have lived through a presidential assassination attempt,
a Y two K bug basically, and then a president
dropping out, all in one week.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
It's insanity if you think about just our lifetimes as millennials. Yes,
what we've done through, it's a miracle that we're so
well preserved and we look young. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I just want like a pause on unprecedented events, right,
Can we make them presidented again?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
For the No. I don't want any of this to
be precedented, none of it. I am sick of it.
I'm tired of just being like, huh.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It's it's like you're trying not to doom scroll, but
at the same time, it's like then you feel uninformed,
and then being uninformed, it's like that's such a faux pas,
especially nowadays. But you really do need to carve out
some time to just kind of scream into a pillow. Uh,
maybe do some hot yoga, Oh my god, just do
something to get your mind off of it.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And it's also very interesting. And I'm just gonna say
this one thing. I know that there are a lot
of people who say things like we can all disagree
on politics and we can still be friends. And I
think that used to be the case. I do not
feel that that's the case anymore. And I'm gonna explain why.
Because if you are a person who is in the
impacted group of a lot of the things that could
be coming down the barrel, if you're in the LGBTQIA community,
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if you are a minority, if you are a woman,
if you care about medicaid, if you care about all
these very big important things, maybe even wars overseas. If
you care about those things, if you're impacted by those things,
it's very hard to be friends with a person who
actively votes against you and your human rights, your bodily autonomy,
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and all of these things. It's getting more and more
difficult to do that as badly as it seems to
be existing now. So if you see people getting a
little more tense and a little more chaotic about things,
that could be part of the reason. And if you
can sit there and say, hey, we can still be friends.
You have to take a step back and appreciate how very,
very privileged you are to be in a group that
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you know is not going to be impacted by these things.
And that's not a bad thing, that doesn't make you
a bad person. Enjoy it. Appreciate that because I know
I'm not in that group. Andrew, I don't think you're
in that group. It's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
It's yeah, it's I think you said it perfectly. You can.
I'm all up for discussion. I'm all for talking things out.
I think you can approach things, try and change people's
minds in heart. But it just is getting very difficult
to even start those conversations without saying, like, if we
can't settle on basic human rights, then we really gotta
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take several steps back just to get there. And it's
hard to explain something like that to somebody.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
It's tough to explain. And is this podcast gonna get political?
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Probably. I'm not even gonna lie because you know what,
you know what this is. It's auso on the side.
It's all the stuff I get to do here in
my studio and or my control that we don't do
on the air.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, and you, honestly, have you how got about this?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Let me take a second.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Are you gonna say something mean to me?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Wait, are you gonna say something nice to me?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I'll take all the seconds you need.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
You are very politically passionate. Is that what you would say? Passionate? Politically?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
How do I? I don't even know what I would say,
but you don't. Yes, but you do have voice that
you want to use more. And I think instead of
stifling it and not trying to come out and say
how you really feel, like that would be more of
a harm than actually saying what you feel and maybe
even changing a few minds and hearts.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Maybe. I had a friend asking the other day if
it was really difficult because of these jobs to have
an opinion about everything, especially you know, stupid celebrity news.
He's like, do you actually care do you really talk
about these things? And like, do I actually care about it?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I don't care what a celebrity wants to do with
their lives and themselves. Good, go live your life. I
think what's much harder is to have an opinion and
not be able.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
To say it.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, that's a way way tougher thing in this business
and entertainment and probably a lot of businesses than caring
about stupid celebrity. So it's harder to not say the
things that are in your heart. So prepare yourselves.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
This could get bumpy, yes, but be open for conversation.
Don't just come control. Don't just be so quick to
be as both parties are want to do triggered by
something or calling them out. Actually listen, digest it. If
you think there's an alternative fact that maybe someone's not hearing,
present it, but that's.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Not a thing. Alternative fact.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Well, if you're coming with a quote unquote research.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Okay, if you an alternate opinion, that is the thing. Yes,
an alternate fact does not exist. They continue apologies.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
One plus one does equal to this guy is blue.
There is an alternative fact to that.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Graveity Israel. It is on earth.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
But yeah, think about it. Don't just be so quick
to be angry, and who knows, maybe you'll learn a
thing or two.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
And that was your boy Andrew, who you can find
on social media at Andrew Bug only on Instagram because
he will not dabble in anything else.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
I got rid of Twitter the minute Elon went crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Let me tell you it's live over there right now,
going do.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I'm so happy I'm away from the sesspool and.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
I am at Baby Hot Sauce on Twitter, even though
I guess we call it x now and I never
really know X or tweet whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I would never dead name someone, but I'm a dead named.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Twitter, okay, and on Instagram at Baby Hot Sauce. Come
holler and uh. We love you and we're always open
to suggestions. If there's stuff you want us to talk about,
please send it our way. Yes, yeah, okay, say by
it until next time, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Hey, buye until next time, Andrew
What's up. It's sauce on the side. I'm Gandhi and
today we have an interesting episode ahead. But before we
get to.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
That, Hello Andrew, Oh, Hello Gandhi.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
How are you? I'm great?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
How are you great?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Why do you sound so happy? You sounded very menacing
to start? What do you mean, hello, Gandhi?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh, I'm not trying to be menacing. It just iss
for you.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Not a good look.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So who do you have on today?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Today? I have the Captain aka Kyle Creek. You might
know him on Instagram as are you ready s g
R st K. I still haven't figured out what that means,
and I hope I remember to ask him. But he's
a good time. He has a lot of stuff to say,
a lot of big thoughts, and he's just kind of
like a fun guy. So I said, we just get
to it.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Love that.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Are we still going by the Captain?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I mean a lot of people know me by it,
so it's kind of stuck. But I don't really use
it that much anymore. I prefer people call me Kyle.
I mean, let's be honest, it's not the worst nickname.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You also are an author. You have a lot of books.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, writer, I don't consider myself an author. I consider
myself a writer. I think the way I explain to
people's writers write about the world as it is, and
authors create worlds, and so until I do a novel,
I don't consider myself an author. And it's kind of
my way of just I don't know, pain and respect
to people that have done that, because it is so
difficult to write that style of the book.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Do you think you'll ever do that?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, that's kind of where I'm going now with my career.
And we were just talking before this. I mean, my
goal for the longest time has been to leave social media.
I mean I used to tell people back in probably
twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, when I was first starting to
get some notoriety online, I would tell people my goal
is to write a book a year and be left
the fuck alone. I'm at the point now where I
do use social media substantially less. I mean, I took
(01:47):
it off my phone in January of this year. I
don't even have it on my phone anymore. I haven't
been active on it for months, and it's been nice.
Why tired of it unfulfilling for the most part, and
I I kind of feel like social media's became a
lot more of a healthscape in the past few years.
I mean, I think social media used to be pretty
fun for me. I used to enjoy it. I thought
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it was fairly challenging, and I liked trying to craft
messages that resonated but also you know, would would get shared.
I liked it. I thought it was you know, kind
of it's almost like a game at times. And once
they started putting algorithms in place and they started fucking
with people's reach, it just it became too mechanical for me,
you know, Rather than start doing like reels and start
(02:28):
doing like these stupid, choppy short videos that everyone's doing
now to get attention, that's just it's not me and
I can't bring myself to do it. So I'd rather
just kind of, you know, disappear into the ether than
you know, become that person.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, you're lucky you have something to fall back on,
which it's not even a fallback. You started as a writer.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I mean, I have a day job. That's pretty
much been my whole career as an adult. Wasn't until
I got into advertising that I made good money as
a writer and on the side I didn't have much
of a social following, but I started writing a lot
of jokes that my clients would kind of say no
to because I was doing a lot of TV work
(03:05):
at the time, and I thought the jokes were good
enough to see the light of day, so I started
tweeting them instead, and they just kind of took off
and snowballed from there, and then I had this catch
persona was just me observing life and writing about it
the way I saw it and the way I was
experiencing it outside of my professional career, And that's really
what became, you know, the social media following that I have.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Now, how do you feel about the feedback that you
get from random people? Because that's actually for me, one
of the reasons I enjoyed following you is because you
say a lot of the things that I think, at
least I was thinking, and I don't necessarily know how
to craft it, and I would just retweet or repost
some of the things you said. But I know, based
on me reposting what people would respond to. How do
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you navigate that and does it bother you or do
you just laugh?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I used to try and do it intentionally. I used
to tell my frist starter. I used to Yeah, I mean,
that's why I have instigator on my profile. I used
to tell my friends, I know I have a good
post when I lose more followers and I gain because
it hits a nerve. And then at some point I know,
you know, people will come back on the back end.
But I've had several people and follow me over the
years and then write me apologies and like, I don't know,
(04:10):
I don't know theyn follow me. I don't pay attention
that closely. But I'll have someone write me and say,
you know I hadn't followed you two years ago because
it's something you said, And I just want to say
I came back and I thought about it, and you
were right. You want people to feel something. You want
people to laugh, you want people to be scared, you
want people to cry, like that's your goal as a writer.
And so I always figured if I elicited enough emotion
that someone felt like they had to unfollow me, that
was successful.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh my god, I must be so successful.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
First of all, who is the majority of your audience
when you'll hear insights? What does that breakdown?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think it's like sixty forty primarily females. Oh okay,
I mean I used to rag on like dating practices.
That was kind of like my thing is. I would
just talk shit on all the dumb stuff people do dating.
I was always bashing on douchebags and you know, shit
that i'd done myself when I was younger, stuff I
still saw my friends doing, and so I was always
kind of bashing that. And I think that's also why
I gained, you know, a little bit of a female following.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Do you ever look back anything you've posted in cringe
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
All the time. I read my old books, Like people
will bring like my quote me books to me to
sign a book event, and I'll flip through them sometimes
and I'll read stuff I wrote and I'll be like, oh,
fuck that guy.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And quote so they're quoting you.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I I think it's uh. I think if you don't
look back on your past self and cringe a little bit,
it's a sign that you're not growing as a person.
Like I think everybody I know that is a good person,
or everyone I know that's an interesting person looks back
on their past self and doesn't like certain aspects of
who they were, And it's unavoidable, and I think that's
what prevents a lot of people from pursuing something they enjoy.
(05:34):
I mean, they're too afraid of criticism, they're too afraid
of regret, and so they just go through the motions.
In ten years now, they look back in their life
and yeah, they don't regret anything, but also they haven't
done anything. And I think, you know, the fear of
being criticized online is just it destroys people's ability to create.
It destroys people's ability to live, you know. It influences
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people to break up with people they shouldn't break up with,
Like your friends get in your ears, or random straight
are talking to you about your relationship. You'll make choices
to placate an audience that honestly doesn't give a fuck
about you. I would love to see social media kind
of just fall off in our society. I actually think
it's been as much as it's helped my career and
someone who really has benefited from social media, I do
(06:18):
feel it's been a net negative for society as a whole,
oh for sure. And I think we would all be
a lot happier without it.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
People are always talking shit that are not in the arena.
They're in the seats watching you, and they're telling you
how you need to curate your content specifically for them,
which strives me insane, and I try, I try really
hard not to let that bother me. Every now and
then it dings me and I get annoyed. But for you,
having such a big following, has it ever affected you
in your mental health at all?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah? It has, Okay, I mean there is times when
it gets to you, and there is times when I think.
I think what's gotten to me the most is when
I feel like I've lost touch or like sometimes I'll
look back and be like, oh, I used to write
better than I do now, and that'll create a whole
bunch of insecurity. And then if I'm in that state
of insecurity and I get on and read too many
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negative comments, when I'm in that state, they could be
pretty devastating and derail means. So, I mean, I was
suicidal for a while when it was really really bad.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So like, at the height of things going well for
you and your podcast, I.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Literally got my first major book deal and thirty days later.
It is probably when I was at like my peak
suicidal ideation. Wow, and I had you know what I'd
always worked for, and it was because I just didn't
have myself like I you know, the book deal was
associated with the Captain. The book deal was for the Captain,
and so it just like I just didn't like myself.
(07:39):
I didn't like who I become. And It's part of
what's so refreshing now about not using social media is
I actually, for the first time feel like I'm making
money and I'm making a living again, as as myself
and not having to be something I'm not. You know,
I had to really kind of adopt that post in
ghost philosophy where you just post and to leave. But
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then I feel guilt because it's like, oh, people are
taking time to write these meaningful comments and I should
probably get back to them. And I used to tell
myself I had to answer every DM and I used
to tell myself, if someone's taking them time to write me,
I need to write them back. And that was that
destroyed my mental health. I was way way, way too
involved in Instagram. It became, you know, a huge part
(08:21):
of my life and my identity and the idea of
not being relevant or the idea of losing what I'd
worked for, like scared the hell out of me. What
I'm doing now work wise is the work I've always
wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I feel like Instagram has created this very bizarre world
where everybody cares what something looks like and not what
it actually feels like. It has ruined dating. Diamond here,
who never wants to talk about her dating life, So
we're not going to talk about your dating life. But
skoot over to a microphone real quick.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
All right, let's rip her apart. Let's rip it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, no, no. I just laugh at Diamond because I
always say she is the queen of a tiny red
flag and she'll never talk to somebody ever again, which
I think is part of social media making you think
that people only have green flags all the time and
there's never anything wrong with somebody. So if you find
one little thing you bounce. I don't know if it's
social media.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Oh, it's just you, it's just me, like I do.
It's certain things that I just I'm like, I don't
really have time to worry about that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Red flaggers are like that that they talk.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
About the ick.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I get the ick very.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Often, Like, what's an example.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Oh my god, I saw a video of this guy
that I thought was cute walking out of the airport
for so all, Why is someone recording you walking out
of the airport.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think it's weird.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
But his backpack was on his back and one side
was like off, and I'm like, that was so irritating
to me because I'm like, I know you feel this,
like fix it is this thing on? How do you
not feel that like this, like your backpack is.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Off of your shoulder?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
That's yeah. That might not be social media. That might
just be her. Yeah, but a little fucked.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Up Diamond is a lot fucked up, and that's why
I love her. It's one of my favorites. But I
think that is partially social media because you never would
have seen that guy with that backpack walking out of
the airport until you were actually there with him and
might have had some type of connection.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's a good point because you know, for the most part,
you know, and when you used to date someone, you
only really knew what you saw of them when you
saw him on like a Friday or a Saturday, so.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Like, which is the real version of that.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, and you would you wouldn't have noticed everyone in
their little mistakes or mishaps or problems that end up
on social media, and so I think that happened. What's
happened for the most part of social media is this
idea that people think they have options when they don't. Oh,
I mean that's like diamonds. I think that's the real
Dutch on social media.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
It's horrible when you think about like people being in
relationships and like they say that cheating is more like
people are cheating more now. I don't really think so,
but I think it's more obvious because they're on Instagram
liking pictures of women that men are and women too,
but like men are on Instagram liking pictures of women
that they'll never meet and thinking that they have Yeah,
(10:52):
they think that they can. You know, why are you
wasting your time liking something She's never going to see it?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
You lose her.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I agree with you on them, but only in the
sense that I find it disrespectful, because I do feel
like it's just a waste of energy and time. And
I think, you know, I understand, I understand that there
might not be intention there, and some guys are like, oh,
I just like them because I think she's hot, But
I still think it's just like a waste of the energy,
Like you're better off putting an energy into something else.
(11:19):
So me personally, you know, in a relationship, like I've
never liked or creeped other photos like that or like
so they're in liked. I didn't even I mean, I
don't even follow people in social media as I know
them personally, and so I do think it's kind of
pathetic when you see these guys that are in relationships
and you look at who they're following, and like fifty
of them are like OnlyFans models. It's discussing.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay, it's a waste.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's a waste of your energy. It really is a
waste of energy observing a.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Lot about dating and initially starting in that realm of
kind of observations, maybe advice about dating. Do you have
any for our diamond? As she ventures out into this
world here we go?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I mean, I mean, I think the idea that she
started with about the idea of little red flags, like
everyone's going to have those. I think it's good to
have deal breakers. I think you absolutely should have things
that you don't compromise on, but little red flags like
a backpack strap, I think I think.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Is I can see it right now.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I think it is incredibly fucking silly, and you're going
to You're gonna miss out on a lot of good
people by finding fault in them. Say this is her,
she's like he like, I could find fault anybody. You
could give me anybody in the world, and I could
find fault in him, because that's just the truth. That's
life and deal breakers are one thing. But little red
(12:31):
flies like that, you're gonna miss out on good stuff.
You really are, because here's the thing is, you have
those two there's looking there's a look at you and
go look at her. Ick look at that. It gives
me and it's just the truth, and you got to
look past that stuff. I just think it would be
very hard to date and be turned off by a
backpack strap.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Oh my god, No, it's very easy.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Like I'm easy to.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Be turned off or easy to date, because it sounds
like dating is hard.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
No, well, dating is. I mean they say it all
the time. The dating pool has p in it. You know,
we we get it. It's a mess. But like also,
it's just I could see the guy's backpack off of
his shoulder right now.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But he's a good looking guy.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, but that made him not so cute.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
It's just it's weird to me, Like I don't know.
It just makes me wonder how your brain works, you know,
how it's wired that you feel the strap.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Wanted to go to dinner with him and find out.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Say, she won't do it. Now, it's like dead, it's
dead in the water. It's not gonna happen. It's okay.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah. It'd be different if you'd gone to dinner with
that guy and he like snapped at a waiter and
like he like made a big deal and like, you know,
threw a fit over some dumb shit at dinner. Like
I get it, Like that's actually that's a character trait, right,
I think judging someone off a character trait is more
accurate as opposed to a backpack strap, which has nothing
to do with character.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I gotta say on that though, more than the backpack
strap bothering me, I would be a little suspicious of
why you have somebody recording it as you're walking out
of an airport. That would be like more if the
red flag to me, like that, what's happening?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
The thing is like that shit's become so normalized with
social media.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I hate it. They need make cameras more expensive, I
can tripods more expensive.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They need to ban tripods and gym like I agree,
Like I go to a public gym and if I
see someone with a tripod, I legitimately want to kick it,
like it pisses me off. And I don't understand why
gyms don't ban them, because if you open a gym
and you had a big sign that says no tripods,
keep your influencer shit at home. Do you know any
people with join your gym just because you're taking a
stand on that stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
My gym says it, but people still do it constantly,
And I just think in my head to like, who's
watching this? Who's actually watching you work out at I'm
not going to say the gym, but at this gym right,
this is very stupid. I hate it. I hate the tripods.
And everybody has a podcast now which I'm trying to
get you to do. Are you going to do it?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I don't want to fall into the category of everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
No, but I think you actually have things to say
where I what I've been seeing a lot, and granted
it's my social media, so the algorithm is feeding me
what I'm looking at and just giving me more of it.
But I see a lot of dudes sitting in a
room talking about how women suck and what women need
to do differently, and I find that fascinating. And I
don't know how all of them just came up with
pot and people are watched. It's insane to me.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
What's stupid too, those You got people that don't have
podcasts that are recording videos of them wearing headphones talking
into a microphone just so they can have clips to
post on social media and look like that of a.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Podcast that they should have known that existed.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
That's like a new thing people are doing, like they're
not even on a podcast, but they'll get a mic
and they'll put headphones on, they'll record themselves singing like
some kind of life advice, and they'll clip it and
they'll post that are real to try and look at
that podcast. And that's my biggest issue with social media,
and it's probably why I've taken a step back from it,
is I think it's just given everybody this idea they're
all a star and they all have something that needs
(15:36):
to be said, and it's just like everyone thinks they're important.
And you know, I was reading recently that. I think
it was the company Lego did a study a couple
of years back, kids between like eight and eleven years
old in the UK and the US what they wanted
to be when they grow up, and the number one
thing is a YouTube content creator. Wow, that's what kids
want to be these days. And I think that is
(15:56):
I think that is incredibly fucking depressing, and I think
it just shows a huge lack of imagination, but it
also shows like kind of where we're steering our youth.
I had a day. My friend calls it my Kanye
moment because I had a day. I had a day.
Rout was just fed up with it. And it was
probably like in twenty seventeen or something, but I had
written something that got reposted by several of those large
(16:19):
meme accounts, you know, like fuck Jerry, Yeah, fuck Jerry,
the fat Jewish, he's.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
The worst, the beach steals everybody's everything.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yet anyway, what everyone and he does, I mean, just
don't get me started on Jay Shetty. His whole backstory
is bullshit.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And there's like you can see Andrew was here right now.
Andrew has a whole Ja Shetty conspiracy theory. He said,
he's going down.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
He should go down. I mean I've I've had my
content post on his page back in the day where
it's like his team would just take something, erase your name,
write his name beneath it, and post it unreal and
that's how he made it following. And so I had
a day back in like twenty seventeen where i'd had
I'd written something. I can't remember what it was, but
it got reposted by all these big meme accounts. So
I screenshot at all of them and I post at
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all of them, and I was like, hey, fuck Jerry,
fuck you. I wrote this two years ago, and I
had like that's part of the reason why I always
took the screenshots on twitters, because I had a timestamp. Yeah,
and this is before you could fake like tweets really easy.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
But I know you can do that. I am missing out.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I would do it, so I had proof of when
I actually wrote that, and I had him in books.
And so I had a day where I called out
every account that was ripped me off and I posted
like twelve things in a row, and it was like
Beige Card again. It was all these huge accounts. So anyway,
I got my account shut down temporarily for cyberbullying.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It was a cyber bully.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
That was a cyber bully for calling these accounts out.
And that's the only time I've ever had my account
shut off. And then I had another time where I
got into a beef with a comedian who had posted
something of mine, and he he posted something of mine
and then people were writing comments like saying, oh, I
love this, this is so great, and the way he
was responding, he was taking credit for it, like he
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created it. And I was like, I was sitting there
and I texted one of my buddies and I was like,
watch it. I'm about to post in ten minutes and
it's still a my Instagram. It was Dane Cook, and
so I.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Dane Cook is still doing comedy, yes, is Yeah, that's
the most shocking part of this whole thing, right, So.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I wrote, like this big, long thing just kind of,
you know, ripping into him for stealing. And he's like
a known joke thief. I know a lot of comedians
have actually had problems with him. So I ripped him
apart and then I think I think he might have
reported or someone else did. But I almost got my
account shut down for that too, same things cyber bowling.
But that's the only time I've really had issues online.
I've watched countless celebrities rip my shit off, and I've
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contacted some of them and they've been good about it.
Like I've contacted some of them and said, hey, I
don't know if someone at your team, you know, screenshot
of that for you, but I wrote that, and they'll
be good and they'll credit me, and some of them
actually become friends of mine. I actually become friends with
some of them strictly because they ripped my shit off
and then I wrote them to call them out. And
I've usually I've usually always tried sending a DM to
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be like, you know, listen, I know the internet shit
gets ripped off all the time. You probably didn't know that.
But I wrote this, and it's like fifty to fifty.
Some of them were really cool about it, and some
of them like fuck you, and they blocked me in immediately.
So I've been blocked by a lot of big accounts
just for calling them out for that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Aren't like celebrity accounts, not.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Celebrities, but just like big meme accounts. I think what
blows my mind about that is the fact that people
think it's okay to do it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's wild. And not only do people think it's okay
to just steal content left and right. It happens to
us all the time. We will say something on the
show and the next day it's a meme and people
are just posting that, like we didn't just say it,
and it's radio so I can't go back and take
a screenshot of it.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
You know. I want to talk about social media being
a net negative. I mean, there's the mental health aspect
of it, but also I just think it's really crushed
people's critical thinking. It used to be where you take
an information and you form your own thought about it,
and now, instead of forming the thought, you just take
the information and you don't think about it. I just
think it's lost a lot of meaning.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I could see that. I want to go back to
the celebrity part of what you were talking about, because
you started off, like you said, copywriting, then getting into advertising,
then your social media account blows up, and now you're
interacting with celebrities. Do you ever take a step back
and think this this is bizarre?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Do you think this is exactly the way I thought
this was gonna come no.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Very very weird. I have. I have friends of mine
now that I remember watching in movies when I was
a kid, and like I remember, like I'll be at
dinner with them and we become a good friends and
I'll be like, man, I'm read being in high school,
like watching you in the movie and it was just
so weird. Like, whether you choose to believe in the
law of attraction or not, you should believe that you
can change your life. You could have a whole podcast
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on just the way. I think victim culture has taken
over society too.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You know we talk about that all the time.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, it's like it's like who can have the shittier life? Right,
Like who can sell, you know, tell the saddest story.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And I understand, like some people who have great lives
really want to be a press and they really want
to feel like they're struggling. Just enjoy it. Enjoy your
great life. That's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Or you'll have someone who genuinely is having a really
hard time and they decide to finally be vulnerable and
share it. And so they share it and they get
a ton of feedback, and now they're addicted to this
feedback loop. They're like, hey, I told a story about
my boyfriend cheating on me and how it broke me,
and look at many comments I got, and then they
lean into that, Okay, I'm just gonna tell more sad stories.
The victim mentality is probably probably the most detrimental thing
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you can do to your life or anyone around you,
Like it's so easy to think everything's bad when you're
stuck in that loop.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
It definitely is. What do you think about cancel culture?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I think you have to allow yourself to be canceled.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I've been saying this for a long time. I don't
really believe it exists.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I believe it exists in the sense that people try
to do it, which they.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Try, but only if you acquiesce does it actually happen.
If you just keep saying like, oh, I go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I believe it's real, but I believe you. I believe
it's real in the sense that people attempt to do it,
and I think it's bullshit. But at the same time,
I think you have to choose to be canceled, Like
I actually have that in the book speech therapy, like
what to what to do if you're canceled?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Did you have you been canceled?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I've had people try all the time. Like I've said
plenty offensive things that people have tried to cancel me for.
And one of my favorite things is I love watching
people double down.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I love I love too, I tell time and all
the time. I love when people are like, no, I'm
not sorry.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's my favorite thing about Dave Chappelle is I love
watching someone who is that intelligent and clever and good
at what they do double down.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I know in this business that we're in, people are
so worried about it all the time, and I say,
just say what you have to say. People are gonna
get over it. Especially with social media moving at the
speed that it does right now, people forget you don't
ever remember.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Seventy two hour rule. Yeah, like in seventy two hours,
they'll be pissed about something else.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Exactly, and you can just move on with your life
and nobody cares anymore, which is great and terrible at
the same time. I'm very interested, and we can do
this off the air, because I'm sure you don't want
to like shit on anybody, but I really want to
hear the rest of your ja schetty stuff, because when
I tell you.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'll shoot on Jay Shatty all day. I have no
I have I have I I have no problem calling
out people that are plagiarists.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Okay, so it's the plagiarism that bothers you, not the other.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I probably don't know enough about the other stuff, Okay,
be honest. I've seen it happen where and this was like,
you know, when he was just getting his come up
as a career. I've seen posts where he just puts
his name on word for words stuff other people have written.
Plagiarism to me, when you put your name on something
and you claim you've done it is like a kin
to like murder.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You would send someone to death for plagiarism.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, okay, we need to go back to Babylonian law
and be chopping off hands and shit, because I think
people would actually be a lot. And I always tell
people this, like I missed the old the Wild West,
when someone cheated at a game of cards and you
could take him on the street and shoot them with
a revolver. Like I missed the fact that you could
be like all right, high noon, you just cheated. I
watched you cheated this hand of cards. High noon, We're
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gonna go out there and we're gonna have a problem
with it, like.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
An you want to bring back the duel?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yes, okay, I know problem if if I think if
two grown men today want a duel, they should be
allowed to. And I know there's states that allow it's
called mutual combat. I know Texas is one of them.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Of course, Texas one of them.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
If you go up to a cap up in Texas
and you stay me and this individual, if agreed to
mutual combat, we're gonna fight. The cop won't do anything.
He'll let you, guys fight it out.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
The cop will let you to pull out a gun
and shoot at each other.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I don't know how far it'll go, but he'll let
They'll let you fight.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But at the very least like fists.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
They'll let you fight, fly, don't let Yeah, they'll let
you fight and they won't stop it. How do you
know this because it's a mutual combat law.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Have you done this?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
No? But I respect it, and I'm telling you, like
if you wanted a Babylonian law and chop people's thumbs off,
it's probably where it should start. So you can no longer
use your smartphone like i'd before it. Man, I would
be one hundred percent for that as a forflagiarizing people online.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
So please know when somebody steals from Kyle Creek, he
thinks about chopping off your thumb.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yes, and I would maybe shooting you. I would support
that in a court proceeding, for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Listen, they think that I'm insane because of a lot
of the way that I feel about stuff. Any think
I'm too passionate.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well, you know the French are still using a guillotine
to like the seventies. No, I did not know that
the last used to the guillotine in France, I think
was nineteen seventy seven. So like over insane, Like over
here in America it was all like flower power and hippies,
and over in France it was like bag gettes and
bloody heads, like and there's a photo of it. It
was like it was a convicted murderer. And there's a
photo of a medieval guillotine just like you would imagine
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a guillotine would look. And there's a crowd of people
standing around watching this guy gaguillotine in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's psychotic, that's insane. But you you're all about it,
you want to bring it back.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I think I think it changes people's characters.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
You're into like chopping off body parts, heads, thumbs.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
If it holds people to a higher standard, yes, And
I kind of feel like that's why society is the
way it is. There's no there's no repercussions for people anymore.
Like people are getting off with doing like heinous, awful,
terrible crimes and they're getting out. I mean, there's a
reason why when you used to sail into a port
as a pirate, they had like pirates hanging out that
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port to tell you, like, we don't we don't tolerate
that shit here. And I feel like a lot of
society I went back that you would only have to
go back to it for literally like five days. If
you did like, if you did for like five days.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Dead bodies, people that deserve it.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Okay, if you do that for like five days, it
would be enough for people to be like, oh fuck,
they're serious.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I don't disagree with that. Actually, I just want to
know what all of the hangable offenses are because you're
saying plagiarism, I'm not really sure. Oh okay, So thumbs
off for plagiarism. What's the hangable offense?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Uh, you know, murder, rape, anything involving kids like that
kind of stuff. I mean, all day, string them up. Okay,
so I got nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
If you can build society the way that you want
it to be built, you're going to bring back death
public death for five days.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I'd be like Vlad the Impaler, but with better style.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Oh really, well, how would your style be better?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
You know, a nice Victorian code or something.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Listen, I have an idea. I bring this up in
every podcast, almost every podcast. I want to start a
podcast called Can I Touch It? And I just suit
up and whatever I need to suit up in, and
I try to touch all the animals that in my
head I think I'd be able to touch because they
will like feel that I'm a good person and they
won't attack me.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Is that a podcast or like it's more like a YouTube.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It will be both. Yeah, it would be like a
recorded You could definitely.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Watch you up and just hear you scream.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Absolutely, I'm telling you, I don't think I will scream.
I think we will get along very well. I just
start with a platypus. Okay, I think I could touch
a platypus I think would be okay. I know they
have a little bit of poison.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, a little poisonous spurs and yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And they're the best animal ever.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I love blooming octopus.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So I hear I saw a lady that had one.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Honor wearing a glove or are you doing a bare handed.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I would have to wear a glove because it will
be very danger because it'll be very short lived if
I don't have a glove.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I think you're only allowed to wear a glove on animals.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You don't care about people's fingers. We've established.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I'm just saying, like the danger has to be there, though,
Like you could wear a glove if you're touching a bear,
because the danger is still there, right because a bear
doesn't matter. It can rip your arm off. But if
you're wearing a glove to touch a blooming octopus, that
defeats the purpose.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
But a blue wearing octopus could poison me, So I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Part of it, that's the danger part of it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So the company is not behind me on this. I've
really tried, but I've already started. I've started touching all
the things I could possibly touch.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
What you just go to the zoo here and touch things.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
No, but you can. Did you know you can? You
can get behind the scenes with a lot of the
zoo stuff. So penguins you can't touch them. I got
bitten by a penguin. It was the worst bite I
think I've ever had in my entire life.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Monkeys, fifty to fifty monkeys are sketchy.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Monkey scare me. I've never understood why anyone won a
monkey as a pet.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I understand it. I would never understand.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Oh, I think I think monkeys are.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Creepy because they're like little humans.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, but they're like little humans that are like terrible
little humans.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Like they're like toddlers.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
No, like they're worse because a toddler doesn't have that
kind of strength or teeth. It's like, it's like everything
you would not want your child to be is what.
A monkey is stronger than you as sharp teeth, they're
fucking crazy, They're fast, like everything you don't want your
child to become. That's why I'm neuriused why you have
monkey as a pet. It's like purposely being like I
want the most ill behaved, horrible child, but I also
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wann't to have enough strength to rip me in half,
and then you get a pet monkey. I've never understood it.
It's stupid.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Specifically chimpanzees, those were the tough. I got bitten by
a monkey. The monkey had no teeth. It was one
of the worst bruises I've ever had in my life.
It was so bad. It was a lump in my
thigh for probably three or four weeks.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Because it went for it. Humans will pull back a
bit because, like we kind of know them pain were
inflicted by animals, don't They don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, that monkey was like, please go fuck yourself. Horseshoe
crabs were good, Sharks were good, fox were good.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Snakes.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I've touched a lot of snakes.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Like poisonous ones.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
No, I haven't touch a poisonous one.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I have a snake guy, so I think he'll let
me come.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
There's a show where these guys just let like animals
sting and bite them. I had camera what it's called.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I've seen these guys before because they've gotten it from
snakes and been and been completely and.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
They'll let like these giant hornets, or they'll they'll let
like these really poisonous spiders like to let like a
black widow bite them. It's called Kings of Pain. And
then they rate it on like a scale and they
let all sorts of just like really toxic, nasty insects
by them.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
They only had two seasons. I wonder why are they alive?
Let's see, Yeah, we had We have a friend who's
an African safari tour guide and he said the thing
that scares him more than anything, more than the lions,
the hyenas, panthers, leopards, whatever it is, he's the black
mamba is the scariest thing you'll ever encounter.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
That's super super fast and crawly toxic.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I believe I could touch it that I would watch,
you would watch me die.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yes, that's the whole point of that show.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I'm just saying someone's gonna steal this at some point
because I talked about as.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
To say, Kings of Pain, I think kind of tried
to do that. But the reason it's interesting because that
you have to have the danger. It has to be dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I think it would be dangerous, But.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Nothing dangerous about touching some of these animals with the
glove on.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Okay, so some of them we won't wear the glove,
but if my hand gets bitten off in the first round,
Like it's just going to kill the season.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But everyone's going to watch that episode, and.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Thank god, we'd have one strong viral episode.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Just go die, put that on YouTube, get some ad revenue.
You get a couple million views. You're good.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So your world so far. We are bringing back the guillotine. Yes,
we're bringing back hanging people in public for five days.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, that's all you need.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
That's a duel.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, duels for sure if two people agree on.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
For sure, and chopping off people's fingers for plagiarism.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, thumbs where else? I think that's probably a good start,
a good start.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, I think it's definitely wod You know what I
think we should do. I think we should allow people
and this would really help the dairy industry too, specifically
egg farmers. We should allow people to get one egg
a day, and if someone pisses you off, whatever they
piss you off for, you can throw one egg a day.
You only get one, so you have to be really
discerning about whether you want to release that egg or not.
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And if you save them all up for a week
and someone really pisses you off, you could throw all
seven but I think that if we sort of police
society that way, or you just can't walk around being
a douchebag because you might get hit with an egg,
people would up right differently.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Well, it used to be like that where like, you know,
people just punch you in the mouth. I mean, Mike
Tyson has that famous quote where he says, you know,
the problem is like people don't get punched in the
mouth anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So would you bring back a punch of the mouth
as well?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Dude? If you're talking shit to someone and you get
punched in the mouth and you deserved it, I'm all
for that.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Men and women equal opportunity.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I think depends on the level of what's being said.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
So what could what could a woman say to you
to deserve a punch in the mouth?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
To me, yeah, nothing, I mean because I I don't
know that a woman could get under my skin in
that way.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Because I just have like a different I view it differently.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Do you value us less?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
No? I think I just view it as I view
men with a different kind of level of like the
character I expect from them. I guess, Okay, it's the
same reason why I say, like two men dueling and like,
you know, a game of cards. It's like I just
kind of feel like I hold men to this certain
standard that I feel like society is lost. I would expect,
you know, men to behave a certain way, but you.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Expect women to just be crazy, you expect that.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I'm way more forgiving of it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Is it because we're smaller? Why you more forgiving?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I think it's just me being polite. I think I
think I think it's a way. I think just it's
a way, like I think, I really do think it's
just it's like a polite thing to do. It's because
I don't consider it as much of a threat as
I would like. So if a man is trying to
get aggressive with me, like I know, there's like certain
things that are going to be said, or like there's
a certain like repercussion that's likely to happen unless I mean,
have you seen the movie swim Fan.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, a long time ago, The Stalker Girl that you
Ain't Mad?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Why that's a hard movie to watch because that was
like super vindictive kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I love that swim Fan is your trigger.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Dude, you should watch that movie. That lady is like
she was like that's like straight up psychologic like trying
to ruin someone's life.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Kind of did they ever date? Was there like a
thing I don't remember, you just remember it was so
mad that she's the girl.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
That I remember watched it in high school and being like,
whoa this this like makes me mad to watch.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Do you ever? Do you ever have any encounters with
like stalker like people off?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
But again, it's not something that's really bothered me.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
And yeah, this is you're a big guy, like soccer.
Is that that bothers me?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I mean some if some lady pulled a gun on me,
I mean, no whole are barred at that point. But
I do think probably some of it comes from the
fact that I'm fairly confident, like my size, and then
again it just comes down to the level of respect.
And I think I have a pretty good sense of
when people are trying to push my buttons too, and
I know that a lot of times people want a
certain reaction.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
And so it's kind of like in person or online.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
In person too, like really like I've steered away from
a lot of like when I was younger, you know,
going on Utah. I mean there's a lot of bar
fights that happen.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
In like a lot of shit talkers in Utah.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, but it's like country bar kind of stuff, Okay,
I mean it's a lot of country boys at some
of those places.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I don't go to country bars, and so.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Like I kind of always knew when like they were
trying to start a fight, and I was like, that's
the reaction they want. So at that point's like you
do the opposite thing and it kind of irritates them more.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
So your world is shaping up to be a place
of I guess we would say violence.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
It's a place of respect.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
It's a place of respect, and when there's no respect violence.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
It worked for a long time.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I'm on board with this for the most part. I
think I'm on board with it, and now it doesn't anymore, saying.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
A lot of countries were founded on that kind of stuff.
I joke about things like cutting people's thumb off. But
then part of me is like it holds people to
a level. It holds people, It holds people to a
level that I think it ultimately creates more self respect.
And I just think a lot of people have gotten
away with too much. I think people are too comfortable
(35:17):
talking shit on other people. I think people are too
comfortable judging others. I think people are too comfortable insulting others.
I think people are too comfortable meddling in other people's lives.
I feel that's the biggest drain social media has had
on society.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Okay, so then I will I'll leave our audience with
the answer to this question. Through everything, through your journey
and what you've been doing, are you happy right now?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
What would you like to be different?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I do think there's things in my life I need
to improve. I think my relationship. I think I'm on
a good path towards fatherhood. I do think I can
be a better father. And there's a lot that I
want to accomplish in my career that I've yet to accomplish.
And I think one of my biggest issues is I
struggle with being happy than now. And I've realized that
(36:01):
about myself because I'm very gold driven. I achieved something
that I'm just like, what's next, What's next? And so
probably one of the things that I know that I
have really sucked at in my life is celebrating my wins.
Like when some good happens, I don't really celebrate it.
I just I moved to the next thing, and it's
something that I'm actively trying to get better at. You know,
I feel like I feel like a lot of my
(36:26):
success has come from the fact that I'm never satisfied.
But at the same time that has also caused probably
some of my greatest pain in life. And so it's
it's something I'm aware that I need to work on
and I don't. I'm not gonna lie to someone and
tell them that I don't, because I know I do.
I know I struggle with that.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Has writing these books been therapy for you as well?
While you give people advice, most.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Of the stuff I write is advice to myself.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
You're talking to yourself.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, most of the stuff, and I've said this before,
most of the stuff I write is things that I
need to hear or things that I needed to hear
at times like I'll look back and be like, man,
if I would have known this six months ago, it
would have made that situation easier. That's also kind of
why I feel like so much responsibility for what I write.
And it's the reason why like I'm so against like
(37:10):
sponsored ads and kind of selling out. Is I need
my work as much as other people need my work
because I feel lost when I don't write, and writing
forces me into this state of introspection that I wouldn't
have otherwise, because when I sit down and I think, Okay,
what am I going to write about today? Ninety five
percent of the time, it's what am I currently feeling? Okay, Like,
(37:32):
what am I dealing with right now? Particularly with what
I've done with my substack the past few weeks, you know,
I started kind of shifting my substack to things that
are current on my mind, what am I currently struggling with,
And a lot of it's me processing it and coming
to terms of it, or it's me giving myself the
advice that I know I need at the time.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
So I people want to find your books? Where can
they find them?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Amazon is where they're all available. If you search Kyle
Kreek as a Captain, or you can search like any
of the titles, if you search like speech Therapy or
fucking History. I mean, it'll come up. And then my
Amazon pages there that has everything.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
And you want them to get it now because you
just sold one of these.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I want them to definitely buy Speech Therapy now while
it's a self published book, because it's money directly in
my pocket, and I need some goats and that's my
goat fund.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
A lot of questions about these goats, but okay, well,
thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thanks for
spinning so much time with me. And I'm sure we'll
see you again when you come back through New York.
All right, Kyle Creek, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Kyle was awesome. Love him for coming in. He's a
good time. I feel like it would be nice to
have him back. In light of all of the things
that have happened over the last week or two.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
It's insane that we have lived through a presidential assassination attempt,
a Y two K bug basically, and then a president
dropping out, all in one week.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
It's insanity if you think about just our lifetimes as millennials. Yes,
what we've done through, it's a miracle that we're so
well preserved and we look young. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I just want like a pause on unprecedented events, right,
Can we make them presidented again?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
For the No. I don't want any of this to
be precedented, none of it. I am sick of it.
I'm tired of just being like, huh.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It's it's like you're trying not to doom scroll, but
at the same time, it's like then you feel uninformed,
and then being uninformed, it's like that's such a faux pas,
especially nowadays. But you really do need to carve out
some time to just kind of scream into a pillow. Uh,
maybe do some hot yoga, Oh my god, just do
something to get your mind off of it.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And it's also very interesting. And I'm just gonna say
this one thing. I know that there are a lot
of people who say things like we can all disagree
on politics and we can still be friends. And I
think that used to be the case. I do not
feel that that's the case anymore. And I'm gonna explain why.
Because if you are a person who is in the
impacted group of a lot of the things that could
be coming down the barrel, if you're in the LGBTQIA community,
(39:55):
if you are a minority, if you are a woman,
if you care about medicaid, if you care about all
these very big important things, maybe even wars overseas. If
you care about those things, if you're impacted by those things,
it's very hard to be friends with a person who
actively votes against you and your human rights, your bodily autonomy,
(40:16):
and all of these things. It's getting more and more
difficult to do that as badly as it seems to
be existing now. So if you see people getting a
little more tense and a little more chaotic about things,
that could be part of the reason. And if you
can sit there and say, hey, we can still be friends.
You have to take a step back and appreciate how very,
very privileged you are to be in a group that
(40:36):
you know is not going to be impacted by these things.
And that's not a bad thing, that doesn't make you
a bad person. Enjoy it. Appreciate that because I know
I'm not in that group. Andrew, I don't think you're
in that group. It's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
It's yeah, it's I think you said it perfectly. You can.
I'm all up for discussion. I'm all for talking things out.
I think you can approach things, try and change people's
minds in heart. But it just is getting very difficult
to even start those conversations without saying, like, if we
can't settle on basic human rights, then we really gotta
(41:13):
take several steps back just to get there. And it's
hard to explain something like that to somebody.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
It's tough to explain. And is this podcast gonna get political?
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Probably. I'm not even gonna lie because you know what,
you know what this is. It's auso on the side.
It's all the stuff I get to do here in
my studio and or my control that we don't do
on the air.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, and you, honestly, have you how got about this?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Let me take a second.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Are you gonna say something mean to me?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Wait, are you gonna say something nice to me?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I'll take all the seconds you need.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
You are very politically passionate. Is that what you would say? Passionate? Politically?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
How do I? I don't even know what I would say,
but you don't. Yes, but you do have voice that
you want to use more. And I think instead of
stifling it and not trying to come out and say
how you really feel, like that would be more of
a harm than actually saying what you feel and maybe
even changing a few minds and hearts.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Maybe. I had a friend asking the other day if
it was really difficult because of these jobs to have
an opinion about everything, especially you know, stupid celebrity news.
He's like, do you actually care do you really talk
about these things? And like, do I actually care about it?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I don't care what a celebrity wants to do with
their lives and themselves. Good, go live your life. I
think what's much harder is to have an opinion and
not be able.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
To say it.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, that's a way way tougher thing in this business
and entertainment and probably a lot of businesses than caring
about stupid celebrity. So it's harder to not say the
things that are in your heart. So prepare yourselves.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
This could get bumpy, yes, but be open for conversation.
Don't just come control. Don't just be so quick to
be as both parties are want to do triggered by
something or calling them out. Actually listen, digest it. If
you think there's an alternative fact that maybe someone's not hearing,
present it, but that's.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Not a thing. Alternative fact.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Well, if you're coming with a quote unquote research.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Okay, if you an alternate opinion, that is the thing. Yes,
an alternate fact does not exist. They continue apologies.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
One plus one does equal to this guy is blue.
There is an alternative fact to that.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Graveity Israel. It is on earth.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
But yeah, think about it. Don't just be so quick
to be angry, and who knows, maybe you'll learn a
thing or two.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
And that was your boy Andrew, who you can find
on social media at Andrew Bug only on Instagram because
he will not dabble in anything else.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
I got rid of Twitter the minute Elon went crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Let me tell you it's live over there right now,
going do.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I'm so happy I'm away from the sesspool and.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
I am at Baby Hot Sauce on Twitter, even though
I guess we call it x now and I never
really know X or tweet whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I would never dead name someone, but I'm a dead named.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Twitter, okay, and on Instagram at Baby Hot Sauce. Come
holler and uh. We love you and we're always open
to suggestions. If there's stuff you want us to talk about,
please send it our way. Yes, yeah, okay, say by
it until next time, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Hey, buye until next time, Andrew
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