October 1, 2019 • 46 mins
Hurricane Dorian was a monster Cat 5 storm that destroyed much of Marsh Harbor and Freeport in the Bahamas. Brad Faxon has joined forces with many PGA Tour pros to raise money to help these victims. We're talking to him about the Bahamas Strong Pro Am being play on October 8th. We discuss that...and many other things including Rory, Brooks, Tiger. putting...and of course his beloved New England Patriots!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't mind us where playing through. Here's Froggy and Whacker.
We welcome to another edition. I'll be Playing Through podcast.
It is Froggy my friend in the morning show along
with Bryan Whacker from a Golf Digests. You can find
us anytime on Instagram at Playing Through Podcast or at
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Froggie Radio or at Bryan Whacker one. How do we
have a ton can talk about? Brian? How are you?
I'm good? Yeah? Do Uh. And it's been it's been
a while. We've got a mob that buck in. There's
a lot that's going on, a lot coming up into
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We've got craft back and going as through the fleet.
Um and uh. Of course I just got back from
the Bahama a couple of weeks ago and got a bation.
Uh there Perkinsian if we're gonna talk about that and
things that are happening down there, Uh, and a lot
of it started to golf another season us CREBA Store
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already a week been in the new season. Uh, and
we've got some great storylines already. Butts about twelve days
and off uh from the PBA Store, but back at
it and a good storyline so farm. So it's uh,
it's been a busy, a busy few weeks here. Yeah,
I mean, we really have had a lot going on.
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And you sound like my wife the other day when
the season ended in in a week and a half
later it started up. She's like, this is the shortest
off season I've ever heard of. How did golf already
end and now it's already restarted? And that's that's exactly
to me. It's one of the beauties about our sport
is that there's not a lot of off season. Really
do you because you're the fan, right, you're yes, I
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covered a lot, like I'm I'm the stand, but but
I also covered the sports zone around it a lot. Um.
I'm curious from the fans perspective, because I do hear
from a lot of people that it's sometimes you know,
it is a lot that and you see it in
other sports they have longer off seasons, um, where you know,
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you take that break and it causes people to miss
the sport and and generate more interested in it. No,
you want golf every week, and you know you have
it almost every week by the way I mean I
spend For example, I'm a huge football fan. I love
college ball, I love Pro Bowl, I spend the off
season of college ball following recruiting, and we always end
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up talking about how good is your team going to be?
And I'm a big Gator fan. I can't wait to
watch the Orange and Blue game, which is really your
two teams playing each other. I mean, we take any
semblance of football we can get. I mean we are
so football hungry that there are spinoff leagues that I
spend my time watching. I watched Steve Spurrier or whatever
whatever league, the a f L, whatever was. I just
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I want football, and so for golf. But there is
an off season. But there is, And I'll give you
the numbers that the NFL has the in the fall
season here from last year. Here the numbers the NFL
off season two days, Major League Baseball undifty six, NBA, NHL,
even tennis, which is probably the closest thing to golf
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in terms of the worldwide, uh sort of year round
schedule if you will, Uh, the A T P Tour
off season forty seven days. PGA Tour off season this
past year seventeen days. Yeah you don't, so you're okay
with it? Okay? I do. I love the fact that
there's always Now I will say to me, I know
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it's the wraparound schedule. I feel like this season really starts,
Like I know we're going to get a good event
coming up here. We've got the c J Cup nine Bridges,
which will get a good field. The excuse me. The
Houston Open also now moved to the false season, So
I know we are But to me, the season really starts.
We get a little taste of it at the Hero,
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then we'll get the President's Cup, then there's a little
bit of a short time off and then boom, Tournament
of Champions in January. To me, that really kicks it off.
But I enjoy being able to turn on the TV
on a Thursday afternoon, Friday afternoon is Saturday and Sunday
and still see golf this time of year. Okay, fair enough,
I do. I enjoy it. So we are three weeks
in a great story coming out of the tournament that
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we just got a winner the Safe Way Open uh
In on Napa, California, Cameron Champ his second PGA Tour win. However,
an extremely emotional victory for Cameron this past week. It
was and you could see that emotion pouring out and
literally pouring out of him with tweyears after his second
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career victory, coming just over a year after his first,
and UM, it was great to see, like I've gotten
to know Cameron a little bit. He's coach Shawn Folly,
I've known for a long time. And this is a kid.
For those that don't know the backstory, UM, which I'm
sure most people at this point to his grandfather, who
is really the guy the impetus. He he was the
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impetus were Cameron getting involved in playing golf. He's the
one that taught Cameron the game. Uh. He's suffering from
stage four stomach cancer and is in houses care home
now back in Sacramento. UM, Cameron was actually commuting back
and forth from there to the golf tournament all week
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so he could spend as much time with his grandfather
as possible. And you know, this is a guy who
um was a former Airmen. UM. You know, overcame things
like racism. Um taught Cameron the game. And it's it's
you know, we sometimes forget these guys are human, these
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players are human. And we saw that on on Sunday
with Cameron's victory breaking down in tears and really cool moment.
You know, I told you this before we came on
to tape the podcast. Is that was his great photograph
of Cameron embracing with his dad, but also his dad
holding the cell phone with his grandfather Mac on the
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on the line, able to enjoy the moment and to
know that his his grandson, Cameron is headed to the
Masters for the first time in April. Of course, when
he won the Sanderson Farms a year ago, uh, that
did not get him into the field for Augusta, but
he will be headed to the Masters. And so just
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a really cool moment and uh, you know, an incredibly
close family and a great moment for them to be
able to share in obviously a tough situation. I mean,
a really really good story, like you said, And see
him win, get his second victory under his belt. He's
now not just a one time winner. I had watched
he had been playing pretty well leading up. He could
see his game has really started to progress. He was
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playing better. So to see him get his second victory
is great. Congratulations to Cameron Champ. And speaking of emotional stories, um,
a story that's tend to have, yeah, you know, it
really becomes the norm. It's the headline and then it
fades from the headlines and we all forget about it.
The unbelievable story that's going on in the Bahamas right now.
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And I know that you had a first hand look
at the devastation UM created by Hurricane Dorian hit the
Bahamas in very early September. It's been I believe three
or four weeks ago now, and so you were there,
you saw it firsthand. I mean, I was in the
area that was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans
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and in Biloxi, Mississippi, right after that had happened, and
I always had a hard time putting into words exactly
what I had seen. But I never forgot and I'm
gonna say this, and it's probably gonna ring very true
to you. I never forgot that smell, the smell of
after the storm passes in the entire city smells. You
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never get it out of your out of your mind.
And so I know you have that in the Mohammas.
Explain to us what you saw and exactly what is
going on in the Mohammas right now. Yeah, you know, devastation.
As you mentioned, UM had a chance to go down there.
Part of its story, UM sort of twofold. It came
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about because UM, I had some friends here in Miami
who were flying some relief supplot some supplies down to
the Bahamas, and UH, through them, was able to get
connected with a group called the Flying Classroom. Really cool story.
UM it's a it's a kindergarten through eighth grade integrated
stem supplemental curriculum program. And one of the people involved
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with it is a pilot by the name of Barrington Irving,
who is UH the youngest person to have flown solo
around the world, UM in a single engine plane and
first black man to do so. I did so at
age twenty three. This is a kid who foggy, you'll
appreciate this. This was a kid who was on UH
had a scholarship offer, grew up in Miami, played football,
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had a scholarship offered to go to UF to play
for the Gators. He was a fullback and had this
chance meeting with an airline pilot and the next you know,
long story short, I was sort of enamored by by
that and turned his attention to aviation and now has
become this incredible pilot and through some of the work
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he has done, he was able to fly some release
applies directly into the Avocas and into the Bahamas. UM,
so I hooked up with that group. We also brought
along a great photographer, Don Ferroora to document as well,
and so we blew some release supplies down there, but
then also spent a few days on the island, you know,
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to see really what was happening in to your point, um,
you know, the devastation is I've said this a couple
of times and pieces of written for Golf die just
and um, you know, to me, it really was like
stepping into one of those UM movies that you see that's,
you know, an end of the world scenario, except it's real,
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except you're actually there. And to your point, the smell
of death, Um, it's hard to it's hard to stomach.
People don't understand that. You know, you see the images
and you see the drone footage and the helicopters, and
you see the pictures, but to understand that it literally
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wipes a portion of the world off the map. I mean,
it has gone. And you think, you know, when it
happens here in the United States where we are, we
have got a lot of different ways to clean up
and a lot of difference. You know, we've got a
lot more infrastructure in order to get stuff moving and
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get stuff cleaned up and to move forward. I mean,
you think about when you see these images coming out
of Marsh Harbor and in the neighborhood that's called the mud,
where do you even get the trucks to clean up?
Where do you take the stuff to clean it. They're
just gonna have to burn it. They're gonna have to
do control burns and just incinerate this stuff and start
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over with from zero from nothing there is and you're
talking about, you know a lot of times these other
countries see terrible storms. It's because the building codes are
are are are not what our building codes are. Whether
it's in Dade County, which you always hear, uh, it's
got Dade County building codes which were enacted after Hurricane
Andrew destroyed so much changed the building codes in the
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United States and we got a lot better. But the Bahamas,
many of these buildings are built out of solid concrete,
and it destroyed them because it's sat there for days
over them and just a category five storm, the slowest
moving Category five storms in the history of records that
have been kept of storms. It destroyed solid concrete buildings. Yeah.
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I mean it's like walking through uh you know, a
bombed out war area of war or uh you know,
it's like imagining a thousand tornadoes, um, you know, sweeping
across the islands. And now, of course the Bahamas is
a big you know, there are a lot of islands, um,
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you know, seven hundred islands I think total, but in
dozens of islands that are inhabited, um, and many of
them went on effect of the course uh Nasaw where
later this year you mentioned the hero World Challenge, UM
will be played. That island was basically unaffected. Um, you know,
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other than a little bit of wind and rain. They
you know, they're about a hundred miles I think to
the south is my geography is correct, And so they
went largely in effect that that tournament will go on.
There's a web dot com event on on Great Great Advoca.
The golf course where that is played was affected for sure,
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roof or ripped off houses, trees were down. There s
flooding damage. It was very messy, but uh, nowhere near
the widespread destruction or the devastation that was that hit
other parts of that That same Island about fifty or
sixty miles away. So um, you mentioned Marsh Harbor and
you mentioned UM and those areas. Uh, you know, even
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parts of Freeport, UM where hit pretty hard. So um,
there's just so so much damage and it's hard to fathom. Uh.
You know, to your point, we see it all the
time on TV UM and then everyone sort of sort
of tends to move on or a lot of people
tend to move on from it. And you know, if
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that that storm, as you know, Froggy, that was projected
at one point to maybe hit South Florida potentially up
where you are in Jacksonville. Um, you know, we were fortunate,
but even still, you know, have that storm hits he
or sure, it would have been catastrophic. But there's a
lot of infrastructure in place to be able to sort
of handle it. You can evacuate people easier, all sorts
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of things. Um. It's a different ball game down in
the Bahamas, and it's it's going to be years before
it's rebuilt. Um. Which and there's a big connection to
the Bahamas with the golf community. So that's why a
lot of people, you know, look, golf is not even
secondary at this point it's it's down, way down the
list in terms of priority. But um, there's let's face it,
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there's a lot of money in golf, a lot of
people who have the ability to help people in golf,
and those people need that help, um more than ever.
You're talking about lives that were destroyed, jobs that were destroyed.
You know a lot of the golf clubs and golf
courses on those islands, Um, the employees are all locals.
They come from those hard hit areas of the Bahamas.
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So UM, that's you know why you're seeing uh this
outpouring your support for people, and it's going to that
support is going to be needed for months and months
and months. Right. So that brings us to why, as
you said at the top of the podcast, we're speaking
to Brad facts and today because a bunch of people
have gotten together and they're putting together a pro am
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and there's gonna be a golf tournament. We'll talk to
Brad and figure out exactly how we can help, what's
being done to help, and what exactly are we going
to do to get the Bahamas back on their feet.
Because let's be honest, anybody who lives, for example, in Florida.
We vacation in the Bahamas all the time. It's so
easy to get to the Bahamas. These people need our help.
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They're there for us when we want to go on vacations.
So now we need to do our part. So let's
talk to Brad and see exactly what's going on in
the Bahamas, all about the pro am and plus we've
got other questions for him as well. Brad, thanks so
much for taking the time to join us here on
the podcast. Thank you very much for me. It's been
a world in these last weeks getting this thing organized.
But we've had so much support. I mean, there's so
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many people down here in Florida, players, amateur golfers that
spend time in the Bahamas recreationally, fishing, golfing. Uh. And
the support after the destruction from Dorian has been it's
been it's mind bothering really. So the poem is October
eight at Old Marsh and Palm Beach. Uh. The list
of names I have so far, I'm sure there are
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are are many more playing. I've got Justin Thomas, Jack Nicholas,
Ernie Els, Greg Norman, Lucas Glover, Billy Horschel. Of course,
Brad Faxton, Charles Schwartzel, Jessica Cora Court. There are so
many people playing. Is it something that fans can come
out and watch and be a part of. Well, we're
trying to limit it to to really just a membership
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at Old Marshall. Marsha's donate at the golf course, which
is a huge gesture on their part, and we don't
want this to be work. I mean, I think we
could probably open it up to the public and charge
a lot of money, but we are not there yet.
We're there's too much stuff that would have to go
get involved with that as far as finding parking, transportation,
So it's it's not going to be open to the public.
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But we have we have more players. We just got
Joaquin Memen who want a couple of weeks ago to
say to us so. Marina Alex who was also a
member of the Solheim Cup is playing. Jay Green, who
was in the final group of the U S Women's
Open this year country called but Charleston Um and and
to have you know, like a Nicholas and Norman be
one of our first two UM players to say yes. Uh,
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It just shows how appreciative they are of the efforts
to help, uh, you know, a really difficult cause you mentioned, um,
you know some of the names. I mean, there's there's
a real outpouring support, you know, justin Thomas of course,
we've seen the adventures uh he and Ricky Fallon and
a lot of others has had down there at Baker's Bay,
which I know was also impacted, but as also um,
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you know bakers can rebuild and so forth. That there
big missions right now is trying to help all the
people on the island who are displaced, who lost their homes,
their lives are basically destroyed. Um. You know, you and
I have talked a couple of times in the past
few weeks just in terms of the level of destruction
down there. It's really hard to wrap your head around
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until you actually see it, smell it, feel it, and
and there's been a there's a real connection. We've got
a piece coming out in Golf Digest and the next
issue in the November issue. There's a real connection, as
you mentioned, between South Florida and the Bahamas, not just um,
sort of casually, but but on the on the Gulf side.
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You know, there's there's a lot of common bonds. They're
obviously the warm weather and and the sort of lifestyle,
laid back lifestyle, and of course the hard working, good
natured people down in the Bahamas who who have been
integral to two places like Baker's Bay, two other places
on the island, all the businesses that were destroyed, all
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the homes that were destroyed. This is gonna make a
real difference, and I know it's it's something that's close
to you into a lot of other players. Well, Brian,
First of all, your article that you wrote a week
and a half or so ago for Golf Digest really
propelled our event to get some amateur golfers to come
forward and support our events. So we appreciate that we're
charging a lot of money to play ten dollars per
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foursome in today's day and age. This quickly is incredible.
We filled it out at UM twenty four groups. We're
gonna get twenty four professionals. We're gonna have an auction,
we're gonna put some live some auction items online, and
we also UM have what what our money is going
to to do. It's going to the Abaco Rescue Funds,
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So you can go to Abaco Rescue Fund dot org. Uh,
there's a woman who was a member at Baker's Bay
who's really spent a lot of time down in the
Bahamas in her life with her husband and four kids,
and the place was decimated. If you if you look
at what happened to free Heart Freeport, to marsh Harbor,
iguantaqu those northern outside islands were destroyed were the amount
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of loss of life has not been reported yet, it's
going to be in the thousands. And one of the
most difficult things canna for these people to do is
to find temporary shelter. So f Warren, the founder here
of the Avlico Rescue Fund, is really helping to provide shelter,
whether it's temporarily here in the US or to provide
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some tents and generators so people can live. But there's
a clean up that's going to be next to impossible
to figure out. And then there's corruption down there in
the governments. There's h pirateism, there's vandalism, there's looting by
neighboring neighborhoods, and and there's there's really nothing these people
have left in their lives. Everything was destroyed. So I
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think this is going to be a slow build Uh,
there's gonna be difficulty working with the governments to get
temporary visas over here. I mean, it's very complicated. There's
a lot of people trying to raise money in different ways.
We want this to go to immediate use to help
the people because everybody wants to be back in the
Bahamas and to have their lives back. You know, it's
unbelievable how much devastation can be caused by these storms.
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And I was saying earlier that the cleanup is the problem.
They're just gonna have to once they do find how
many unfortunate deaths there were. I don't think there's really
a clean up process. It's more going to be pushed
it in a pile and just incenterated. There's really nowhere.
They don't have the infrastructure like we have here in
the States to clean up and to start over. And
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so that's why things like this are so so important
to help get this country back on their feet and
get them moving forward again, because it is going to
take so long to get them back together. So everything
that you guys are doing is extremely appreciated bread well,
and just the simplicity of what we think would be
able to burn the remains of the homes and buildings
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that are left and destroyed. The US doesn't want the
pollution going the way. There's kena goals that can get
in the way and get the air, So even that
has to be more well thought out. So nothing's going
to be easy to do for these people. And right
now there's you know, the feet that are on the
ground over there. It can be dangerous to people, um
that I know that have have gone over there have
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had to bring sort of a mini army with it
with them in certain areas. And look, I want everybody
to know that, um. Seth Law and Justin Leonard who
kind of came up with this idea together because their
connection to the Baker's Bay with Beth Warren. They reached
out to me. I'm the local guy down here in
South Florida with some experience in running some events and
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some fundraisers and know a lot of the pros and
know a lot of the clubs and the amateurs around here. Um,
what this group of people have done in this short
of time frame is remarkable. I mean the quality of
this event, um, that we'll do in practically four weeks
from the time we play, which is a week from
today on eight. I don't I don't think that any
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group could do it as quickly. We have to raise
this amount of money. I just got um a package
today from Michael Jordan with a signed jersey on it. Um.
We've had people reaching out from really all over the
country with donations to the website. UM that just know
what we're doing. So your support is helping. Every time
somebody hears about beam a Strong pro am or Avoco
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Rescue Fund dot org. Uh, we're getting a benefit from
it right once again. The website is www dot Bahamas
Strong ProAm dot com. Go up to the top you
can see the thing to donate. It is a five
oh one C three class charity. So you are it
is you know it is something you can write off,
but you do want to donate. It's Bahamas Strong progam
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dot com. Yeah, just tremendous effort. One question night have
is are there are you going to auction off any
of your putters, because as we know, you are one
of the putters to ever of the game, So anything
people can do to get their hands on a brad
Facts and putter would be amazing, or at least maybe
some putting tips well. This is all in any way,
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when you look at gog on tour today, who are
You're maybe two or three favorite putters to watch on
tour and why you know, that's a great that's this
great question we've seen and you're talking about the current
day players. I'm sure what I've what intrigues me so
much about putting and playing with some of the best
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players in the world, and putting with some of the
best players in the world, uh, talking to players like
Tiger Woods, Rory McElroy or Justin Thomas in Jordan's Steve Um.
You know, trying to figure out what are the common
denominators is something that I'm so curious about because you
look at all the different styles that players used to putt. Well,
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Jack Nicholas was really crouched down as close to the
Paul is any great putter we've ever seen. And you
saw somebody more upright like Ben Crenshaw, uh, and somebody
looked more robotic like Tyger Woods machine like really, and
then you have all these individual styles that are somewhere
in between there, like you know Jim Burrett, who seemed
to change the style that he used a lot with
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the grip the way he went across handed um for
left hand low the I get amazed by that. But
you know, we saw some record breaking putting a few
years ago by both Jason Day and Jordan's Speace, And
what makes that exciting to me is it's the combination
of everything. It's really there's not one thing that people
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always want. One thing. They want that one thing that
you can put on a in a jar and put
it at CBS on the counter and people are going
to go buy it. Um. But to me, that's why
I like helping players and talking about players about putting,
because it's it's an entire package of you know, the
equipment that you use, the way that you see, the
way that you think, the way that you move your
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root team, and then really how you think after you
hit a put whether the putt goes in or whether
the put goes out, You've always got to respond in
some kind of positive way if you want to continue
to be a great putter. So I love guys that
have great attitudes, UM. I love guys that have putted
well for a long period of time that sustained that UM.
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And I love seeing guys that I've talked to that
i've maybe helped that have had career years on the
putting green, like Rory McElroy, like Patrick Cantley um with
distinctly different styles, and you would you would think that
everybody would be teaching people the same things that that's
never going to happen. So I don't even know if
I came close to answer that question. Did you did?
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But you know, I want to ask you. And it's
something you always see people doing the you know, the
watching event and say, Dustin Johnson get gets hot with
this new tailor made spider X putter, so they're gonna go, Hey,
I'm gonna go buy a spider X putter. Will a
new putter help a player or is every putter different
as to what type of putter they should be using.
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Whether it's how the putter sits at a dress, whether
it's got a little bit of toehang, whether it's face balanced,
all of those things are something you need to get
fitted and find out what fits you and your stroke.
Is that correct? Definitely? And I would probably be of
the camp right now that the type of putter that
you use is important. And you know, you'll have some
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people say that, you know, if you take the putter
and rotate it too much open and closed with a
with a putter with a lot of toe hangger. Getting
a face balanced putter will help eliminate that, and I
think the research shows that it helps a little bit
of it, but not a ton of it. But what
what to me? What happens when when somebody tries a
new putter or a new grip to use for a while.
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Those things allow the player to feel like they have
some freedom and there's not handcuffs on them, like I'm
trying this putter off. So it doesn't work, It doesn't
matter because I'm just this is an experiment, And I
think it's that brief change and attitude that really can
help a player um to put better almost immediately with
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a new putter. And and you you've seen it yourself.
I bet you guys have gone on the range and
you see a buddy that's got a nice club, a
nice driver and nice you know, wedge, and you hit
a couple of chip shots and you hit a couple
of drives and his club always goes well, doesn't it?
And you go find that happen because you swing it
with you know, that reckless abandon that you had when
you were a kid, and then all of a sudden
you go in the pro shop and you buy the
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exact same thing, but it doesn't work because it's yours.
And you know, I tend to look at stuff like
that too. I'm looking now at the list of guys
that are great putters on the tour, just statistically, and
I look at a guy like I don't know, brand Snedeker,
who has a unique style, kind of a pop stroke
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that's putted well for a long time. Phil Nicholson's up
there in putting stats, um, and then some new young guys,
the seventeen year old Patilla who just turned pro and
he's way up there in the putting stats. And uh,
you know cee cee forty nine year old Phil Nicholson
in seventeen year old Batilla up there, Joachim Meeman who's
playing on our event. He's one of the top players.
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And I don't know that these these guys just find
a way to feel confident when they're over there putter,
and is very rarely do I hear of putter comings.
A player comes and say I'm thinking about so many
things that's really helped me. Yeah, I don't hear that brod.
One guy you mentioned, you know, in that conversation, Rory mclory.
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Of course, his ups and downs to the putter have
been well documented. That he had probably you know, at
least statistically, I think his best season today yet on tour. Now, look,
he didn't win a major, but he still want a
few times weekend in week out, he was right there
near the top of the leader board almost every time
he teated up. Curious your thoughts on the season he
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how to know, you've done some more work with him
on his putting, but just the improvements, um you've seen
with him the season he had versus a guy like
Brooks kept of course that was a hot debate in
terms of player of the year. Uh Glory somewhat surprisingly
beating out Brooks for that war. Both had unbelievable seasons,
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Brooks of course winning a major championship and finishing in
the top four in the other three. What what stood
out to you about their two seasons when they were
they were both incredibly good seasons, great seasons, you know,
I popularity among his peers in in the fan base
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that that was clearly what gave him an edge. And
and some people I've heard on radio shows, Michael breed
that they don't like it. They think it should be
a more of a point system. Um. But but I
love to breakdown Brandon Shandley gave on Golfield of how
this is player of the Year. It's not Player of
the May years. It's it's not just player for four weeks.
And I think if if Rory McElroy had had had
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the year that kept go one, McIlroy would have won
the Player in the Year with Kepta's record because he's
such a popular player. UM and and Kepta, who you know,
with all due respect, has found a way to compete
well in these major championships unlike many players have ever done.
UM in this short time frame. You know, he made
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a couple of comments that I'm sure I would think
that he would regret her I hope they would regret.
When he showed up to the Canadian Open this year,
he said, I'm just using this as practice for next week. Now,
you think about that, when the tournament director of the
Canadian Open heres out of the fan base in all
of Canada, they're like, wait a minute, this is our
national championship and it's a practice round. UM. Players here
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that they see that, and you know, mcloy did something
this year statistically that's been unmasked by any other player
in the history of golf except for Tiger Woods. In
his his ball striking TEDD Green. Um in the amount
of strokes gained he had was better than anybody ever
since the strokes game points system started in two thousand
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and three. So he's done remarkably well. From TV Green
and you know, he's putting strokes games for the year,
he's twenty four ranked putting with those kind of numbers
TV Green that that's a hard combination to beat Um.
And he was clearly very consistent throughout the year. He
was always seemed to be Um. If he didn't have
a good start to the events, he had a great finish.
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I had a chance to win many times. And I
just think it's the beginning for Rory. I mean, he's
got these thirties right in the prime of his career,
and I know he's gonna win majors again. I know
he feels he's going to win more. So it's it's
been fun to be around this guy because I think
he's he's our modern day Arnold Plumber. Really, uh, he's
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you know, you look at Tiger and and maybe Phil,
and Phil's not playing to the top of his game.
Rory mac royce. What who everybody comes to watch now right?
You know, Brad, you bring up Tiger, you bring up Roy,
you bring up majors that I know that Paul Eisinger
is well documented as saying that he believes that the
Masters this past year was tiger swansong, that he climbed
the mountain again, he won, and believes that that is it.
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I know that Tiger's a friend of yours. I know
you've played golf with Tiger and you've also played with
President Trump. Do you believe that we've seen the last
up Tiger winning a tournament or a major or do
you think there's more in there and that maybe this
knee injury that we just had some some scoping done
on the knee in the off season. Will we get
a more competitive Tiger back next season? I think we can.
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I was a doubter a few years ago that that
he'd ever compete again the way he was going. Uh
when McRoy played with Tiger in the final round at
the Tour Championship, when he won two years ago, when
Tiger won, um Roy said to me after he says
he's never been around a great player that consistently hit
his irons to pin high like Tiger Woods did. When
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you saw his final few holes on the final nine
at the Masters this year, and remember the shots that
he hit, how accurate they were both with distance and
accuracy was remarkable, especially the foe Irony hit into the
fifteenth green uh to set him upself for a bird
there on a shot that is no gimmea. But I
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believe that these greatest players like Jack Nicholas and Tiger
and Rory Um, they're great because they played well and
they endured for a really, really long period of time.
So when they get themselves in the competition and injected
it at the age of forty six when he won
the Masters in six, they don't forget those feelings of
how to play those last few holes. Um, it's exciting.
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And today we talked about the the depth of the
young players out there. We talked about Patia before or
Victor Hogland or Colin Morcawa, Matthew Wolfe. I mean these
young guys Joachim Mean and Um spectacular player. I also
think that on the other end of the spectrum, We're
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going to continue to see you guys be able to
play physically into their forties and even into their fifties.
And if I were the Senior Tour of the Champions Whore,
I'll be worried because I don't see Phil Nicholson going.
I can't wait to get out there on the senior tour. Um.
You know he wants to still find a way to
win a US open Um. Sam Steve won in his fifties.
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Has been a number of players, Craig Stalla, Peter Jacobson,
Ray Floyd, that one in their fifties. And these players
you lose, lose a little bit of identity once you
get at the Champions Tour. Certainly, Um, they're not going
to be financially motivated to go play senior Tour golf,
you know, speaking of greatness and and and speaking of
being really good and winning for a long time. I
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know you're a New England guy, and I know that
bringing up the Patriots is always a safe conversation. So
let me ask you right now here we are three
weeks into the season. Patriots are still one of these
there's only three undefeated teams, they're one of them. Are
we looking at another Patriots Super Bowl in It's funny
how this works. I'm a longtime Patriots fan. Before Tom
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Brady ever showed up. I was, you know, sitting in
Sullivan Stadium on those metal seats when it was cold,
and um, you know, there weren't many highlights there probably
yeah grog, you know, yeah, totally eastern, right, so you
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had dropkick. So what's amazing was after two games they
were talking about undefeated season and you watched the struggle
in Buffalo. Um. The Patriots always find a way to win.
And they did it offensively a couple of years. They've
done it defensively the last few years. What they've done
so far this year with a you know, the team
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that's in a little bit of shambles. They've had two
of their offensive linemen UM go down for the year.
David Andrews or center is out, Isaiah Wynn, who is
the starting left tackle, is out again, and I are UM.
So they patchwork everything together. They had Antonio Brown in
for you know a quick second. Uh. And so there's
always drama injuries last year suspensions with Edelman Gronkowski gone, UM.
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But somehow they find a way, um to put themselves
in a chance to win every time they play. And
I don't think there is anybody on the planet like
Bill Belichick that can figure out strength and weakness of
another team. And I know I say we because I
feel like I'm part of the Patriots empire. Are so
despised by everybody, whether it's different things that Belichick's done,
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spying on other teams, where it's how he treats the media.
I get it, Tom Brady, they win their first game
against Pittsburgh, you know, by thirty points, and he's saying,
we could do a lot better. Uh. That pisses everybody off.
But at forty years years old, he still wants to
get up early in the morning and be the first
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guy to the state. You know, I said this before
we had you on, Brad. The Patriots to me or
like you know, or maybe turning around Brooks Keepka is
like golf version of the Patriots to me, he's just
he just you know, he sort of has this polarizing,
uh viewpoint, viewpoint, and um, yeah, he just keeps winning,
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you know, big tournaments. Patriots keep winning super Bowl despite
you know, no matter what's going on, whether it's Antonio
Brown controversy, spy gay uh, you name. They just keep winning, definitely.
And I think Chick when he first got to New England,
he had he had been the Browns coach and tried
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this strategy or tapped if of not giving anything to
the press, and it didn't work because they were terrible. Yeah. Yeah,
and you know he got I think one of his
first seasons with the Patriots, you got to ask the
question by one of the female reporters and something happened
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soon after that where it got out and he just said,
you know what, I'm done. I'm not answering any more
questions for anybody. So I don't even know why they
have press consciences because every writer there could write what
they want anyway without any of his quotes. Unless you're
taught about history of certain players, he's not going to
be very responsible. Brad, thank you so much for your time.
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You guys, great talking to you. Um. I appreciate the
support you're giving us uh with the Bahama Strong PRORAM
and you know, if if anybody wants to go and
check it out, there's a donate page there and go
to Abaco Rescue Fund dot org. Uh see the Tragedy
of what's happened. Some of the pictures are just it's
incomprehensible what happened there. Yeah, you can follow Brad on
social media. He's on Twitter at Brad Factson, on Instagram
(40:04):
at b Facts and you get all the information there.
You can see what's going on. I just saw your
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the tree. That's what a per Winds does and that
is what they're trying to recover from in the Bahamas.
Brad Factson and many others doing their part to help. Brad,
thank you for your time and really appreciate all you're doing.
(40:25):
You guys, thank you so much. Thank you all right
to Brad Facts and thanks so much for your time. Brad.
Once again, any information you'd like about the pro am
It is at www dot Bahamas strong pro am dot com. Yeah,
Brad's a huge New England Patriots fan. Uh, but Brian,
I think you and I were more college. I mean, listen,
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I'm a Buccaneers fan. We scored fifty five points last week.
We probably won't score fifty five points the rest of
the season combined. Um are Broncos fan and we're still
looking for that first first victory of the years, maybe
a bit you in the ass on Sunday. Let's listen,
I just hope they lose the rest of their games. Now,
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get a real quarterback in there, get you know, Tank
for two. Let's let's do no. I think the Dolphins
are trying to do that as well. Yeah well yeah, yeah,
so there will be a nice competition between the Dolphins
and the process for that for that tick. But speaking
in college football now, I know, going back a couple
of weeks, we are five, five games in to the
college season, you and Billy Horschel had a wager on
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the Flora Gator was waiting. Doesn't see how long this
would take to be brought up. The Canes and the
Gators played that week zero game. Um, I was there
and I remember walking onto that stadium with with a
Gator victory. So don't you owe Billy Horshell a dinner somewhere?
I may I may Openilly at dinner at the restaurant
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is his choice. Um yeah, this this coming season. So
um you know that that did not It's hard for
me to even talk about it, quite honestly, because I
had high expectations for the Canes. They were they were
mixed expectations. Um, but you know they played well during
that game. They're not good. And now they've they've got
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they've they've got a ways to go. They you know,
they play Alabama in a couple of years to open
the season and I think twenty one, I believe. So
I got a little bit of work to do between
now and then to be competitive in that game. Um,
it's tough, it's it's it's been a rough go since
that rousing victory against Notre Dame in here in Miami. Yes, yes,
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that was a long time. We got anohing. Gators have
had a good, a good start to the season. We
beat Miami, Uh, we beat you T Martin, we beat Kentucky,
we beat University of Tennessee, we beat Towson. But now
we get the real schedule we've got I like how
you just sort of slipped in. That's been a great start.
We beat you T Martin and in Towsand yeah, that's
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I'm glad you were able to hang on in this game.
You got to play your schedule. But but now we
pick up and we play Auburn this week. Then we've
got l s U on the road, We've got South
Carolina on the road and Georgia and Jacksonville. So our
schedule is about to get really tough. We're about to
find out exactly who we are three of the next
four weeks. Yeah, and I think you're going to find
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out that there's there are teams like Alabama and Clemson
and l s U and Georgia, and then there's everybody
else and Florida would be and not everybody else category.
Just yeah, it really is. It's become college football has
become there's quite a chasm of between the top say
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three or four teams whatever wherever you want to draw
that line, and the rest of uh college football. Now, look,
certainly the Gators beat Miami, Miami's ways to go between
before they're um, probably at the same level at least
consistency as Florida. But um, it really is about the
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top three or four teams and everybody else. There's seems
to be to me at least a pretty big gap there. Yeah.
I mean, obviously Clemson did not play well against North Carolina,
but I think Clemson, Bama, maybe Georgia you could put
in this scene. But but Georgia every year seems to
get there and then they can't finish. I think Auburn
is a lot better than people realize they are, and
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I think we're gonna find that out on Saturday. Um.
But right now, believe it or not, I think the
best team in the country is Ohio State. Well yeah,
you can put them in the conversation, but to me,
it's it's no one's as good as Alabama. And that's Um.
You know, we're gonna have whoever it is to pick
your your four teams. Whatever those four teams are going
to be. Um, I don't think there's going to be
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in other ways, not going to be an argument for
a fifth team. Um, you know, because to me, there's
there's just gonna be that gap between the top three
four teams in the country, uh and everybody else. That's
what's unbelievable is how long Nick Saban has been able.
And remember he is to constantly replace coaches because they
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go get other jobs. Kirby Smart at Um at Georgia.
He's got Pruett at Tennessee who's not doing well. He'll
be available real soon if he'd like him back. Um,
you know said at the Miami the quarterbacks right last year,
and now the offensive coordinator heard for Miami. Yeah, it
doesn't seem to matter. We'll look when you get the
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best players, you know, then that's what happened. You can't
afford to lose coaches. Unbelievable. Once again. If you want
to help in the Bahamas and be a part of
the pro am is going on in Palm Beach on
October eight, get all the details at Bahama's strong pro
am dot com. And big thanks to Brad Faxson for
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coming on the program. We will talk to you again
so June and I will find out where Billy Horschel
will be eating his fine dinner on Brian's dime thanks
to the Florida Gators, hopefully on the next Playing Through podcast.
Thanks for listening to appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon.
Don't mind us where playing through. Here's Froggy and Whacker.
We welcome to another edition. I'll be Playing Through podcast.
It is Froggy my friend in the morning show along
with Bryan Whacker from a Golf Digests. You can find
us anytime on Instagram at Playing Through Podcast or at
(00:21):
Froggie Radio or at Bryan Whacker one. How do we
have a ton can talk about? Brian? How are you?
I'm good? Yeah? Do Uh. And it's been it's been
a while. We've got a mob that buck in. There's
a lot that's going on, a lot coming up into
(00:43):
We've got craft back and going as through the fleet.
Um and uh. Of course I just got back from
the Bahama a couple of weeks ago and got a bation.
Uh there Perkinsian if we're gonna talk about that and
things that are happening down there, Uh, and a lot
of it started to golf another season us CREBA Store
(01:06):
already a week been in the new season. Uh, and
we've got some great storylines already. Butts about twelve days
and off uh from the PBA Store, but back at
it and a good storyline so farm. So it's uh,
it's been a busy, a busy few weeks here. Yeah,
I mean, we really have had a lot going on.
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And you sound like my wife the other day when
the season ended in in a week and a half
later it started up. She's like, this is the shortest
off season I've ever heard of. How did golf already
end and now it's already restarted? And that's that's exactly
to me. It's one of the beauties about our sport
is that there's not a lot of off season. Really
do you because you're the fan, right, you're yes, I
(01:47):
covered a lot, like I'm I'm the stand, but but
I also covered the sports zone around it a lot. Um.
I'm curious from the fans perspective, because I do hear
from a lot of people that it's sometimes you know,
it is a lot that and you see it in
other sports they have longer off seasons, um, where you know,
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you take that break and it causes people to miss
the sport and and generate more interested in it. No,
you want golf every week, and you know you have
it almost every week by the way I mean I
spend For example, I'm a huge football fan. I love
college ball, I love Pro Bowl, I spend the off
season of college ball following recruiting, and we always end
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up talking about how good is your team going to be?
And I'm a big Gator fan. I can't wait to
watch the Orange and Blue game, which is really your
two teams playing each other. I mean, we take any
semblance of football we can get. I mean we are
so football hungry that there are spinoff leagues that I
spend my time watching. I watched Steve Spurrier or whatever
whatever league, the a f L, whatever was. I just
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I want football, and so for golf. But there is
an off season. But there is, And I'll give you
the numbers that the NFL has the in the fall
season here from last year. Here the numbers the NFL
off season two days, Major League Baseball undifty six, NBA, NHL,
even tennis, which is probably the closest thing to golf
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in terms of the worldwide, uh sort of year round
schedule if you will, Uh, the A T P Tour
off season forty seven days. PGA Tour off season this
past year seventeen days. Yeah you don't, so you're okay
with it? Okay? I do. I love the fact that
there's always Now I will say to me, I know
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it's the wraparound schedule. I feel like this season really starts,
Like I know we're going to get a good event
coming up here. We've got the c J Cup nine Bridges,
which will get a good field. The excuse me. The
Houston Open also now moved to the false season, So
I know we are But to me, the season really starts.
We get a little taste of it at the Hero,
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then we'll get the President's Cup, then there's a little
bit of a short time off and then boom, Tournament
of Champions in January. To me, that really kicks it off.
But I enjoy being able to turn on the TV
on a Thursday afternoon, Friday afternoon is Saturday and Sunday
and still see golf this time of year. Okay, fair enough,
I do. I enjoy it. So we are three weeks
in a great story coming out of the tournament that
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we just got a winner the Safe Way Open uh
In on Napa, California, Cameron Champ his second PGA Tour win. However,
an extremely emotional victory for Cameron this past week. It
was and you could see that emotion pouring out and
literally pouring out of him with tweyears after his second
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career victory, coming just over a year after his first,
and UM, it was great to see, like I've gotten
to know Cameron a little bit. He's coach Shawn Folly,
I've known for a long time. And this is a kid.
For those that don't know the backstory, UM, which I'm
sure most people at this point to his grandfather, who
is really the guy the impetus. He he was the
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impetus were Cameron getting involved in playing golf. He's the
one that taught Cameron the game. Uh. He's suffering from
stage four stomach cancer and is in houses care home
now back in Sacramento. UM, Cameron was actually commuting back
and forth from there to the golf tournament all week
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so he could spend as much time with his grandfather
as possible. And you know, this is a guy who
um was a former Airmen. UM. You know, overcame things
like racism. Um taught Cameron the game. And it's it's
you know, we sometimes forget these guys are human, these
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players are human. And we saw that on on Sunday
with Cameron's victory breaking down in tears and really cool moment.
You know, I told you this before we came on
to tape the podcast. Is that was his great photograph
of Cameron embracing with his dad, but also his dad
holding the cell phone with his grandfather Mac on the
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on the line, able to enjoy the moment and to
know that his his grandson, Cameron is headed to the
Masters for the first time in April. Of course, when
he won the Sanderson Farms a year ago, uh, that
did not get him into the field for Augusta, but
he will be headed to the Masters. And so just
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a really cool moment and uh, you know, an incredibly
close family and a great moment for them to be
able to share in obviously a tough situation. I mean,
a really really good story, like you said, And see
him win, get his second victory under his belt. He's
now not just a one time winner. I had watched
he had been playing pretty well leading up. He could
see his game has really started to progress. He was
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playing better. So to see him get his second victory
is great. Congratulations to Cameron Champ. And speaking of emotional stories, um,
a story that's tend to have, yeah, you know, it
really becomes the norm. It's the headline and then it
fades from the headlines and we all forget about it.
The unbelievable story that's going on in the Bahamas right now.
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And I know that you had a first hand look
at the devastation UM created by Hurricane Dorian hit the
Bahamas in very early September. It's been I believe three
or four weeks ago now, and so you were there,
you saw it firsthand. I mean, I was in the
area that was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans
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and in Biloxi, Mississippi, right after that had happened, and
I always had a hard time putting into words exactly
what I had seen. But I never forgot and I'm
gonna say this, and it's probably gonna ring very true
to you. I never forgot that smell, the smell of
after the storm passes in the entire city smells. You
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never get it out of your out of your mind.
And so I know you have that in the Mohammas.
Explain to us what you saw and exactly what is
going on in the Mohammas right now. Yeah, you know, devastation.
As you mentioned, UM had a chance to go down there.
Part of its story, UM sort of twofold. It came
(08:19):
about because UM, I had some friends here in Miami
who were flying some relief supplot some supplies down to
the Bahamas, and UH, through them, was able to get
connected with a group called the Flying Classroom. Really cool story.
UM it's a it's a kindergarten through eighth grade integrated
stem supplemental curriculum program. And one of the people involved
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with it is a pilot by the name of Barrington Irving,
who is UH the youngest person to have flown solo
around the world, UM in a single engine plane and
first black man to do so. I did so at
age twenty three. This is a kid who foggy, you'll
appreciate this. This was a kid who was on UH
had a scholarship offer, grew up in Miami, played football,
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had a scholarship offered to go to UF to play
for the Gators. He was a fullback and had this
chance meeting with an airline pilot and the next you know,
long story short, I was sort of enamored by by
that and turned his attention to aviation and now has
become this incredible pilot and through some of the work
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he has done, he was able to fly some release
applies directly into the Avocas and into the Bahamas. UM,
so I hooked up with that group. We also brought
along a great photographer, Don Ferroora to document as well,
and so we blew some release supplies down there, but
then also spent a few days on the island, you know,
(09:51):
to see really what was happening in to your point, um,
you know, the devastation is I've said this a couple
of times and pieces of written for Golf die just
and um, you know, to me, it really was like
stepping into one of those UM movies that you see that's,
you know, an end of the world scenario, except it's real,
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except you're actually there. And to your point, the smell
of death, Um, it's hard to it's hard to stomach.
People don't understand that. You know, you see the images
and you see the drone footage and the helicopters, and
you see the pictures, but to understand that it literally
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wipes a portion of the world off the map. I mean,
it has gone. And you think, you know, when it
happens here in the United States where we are, we
have got a lot of different ways to clean up
and a lot of difference. You know, we've got a
lot more infrastructure in order to get stuff moving and
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get stuff cleaned up and to move forward. I mean,
you think about when you see these images coming out
of Marsh Harbor and in the neighborhood that's called the mud,
where do you even get the trucks to clean up?
Where do you take the stuff to clean it. They're
just gonna have to burn it. They're gonna have to
do control burns and just incinerate this stuff and start
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over with from zero from nothing there is and you're
talking about, you know a lot of times these other
countries see terrible storms. It's because the building codes are
are are are not what our building codes are. Whether
it's in Dade County, which you always hear, uh, it's
got Dade County building codes which were enacted after Hurricane
Andrew destroyed so much changed the building codes in the
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United States and we got a lot better. But the Bahamas,
many of these buildings are built out of solid concrete,
and it destroyed them because it's sat there for days
over them and just a category five storm, the slowest
moving Category five storms in the history of records that
have been kept of storms. It destroyed solid concrete buildings. Yeah.
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I mean it's like walking through uh you know, a
bombed out war area of war or uh you know,
it's like imagining a thousand tornadoes, um, you know, sweeping
across the islands. And now, of course the Bahamas is
a big you know, there are a lot of islands, um,
(12:28):
you know, seven hundred islands I think total, but in
dozens of islands that are inhabited, um, and many of
them went on effect of the course uh Nasaw where
later this year you mentioned the hero World Challenge, UM
will be played. That island was basically unaffected. Um, you know,
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other than a little bit of wind and rain. They
you know, they're about a hundred miles I think to
the south is my geography is correct, And so they
went largely in effect that that tournament will go on.
There's a web dot com event on on Great Great Advoca.
The golf course where that is played was affected for sure,
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roof or ripped off houses, trees were down. There s
flooding damage. It was very messy, but uh, nowhere near
the widespread destruction or the devastation that was that hit
other parts of that That same Island about fifty or
sixty miles away. So um, you mentioned Marsh Harbor and
you mentioned UM and those areas. Uh, you know, even
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parts of Freeport, UM where hit pretty hard. So um,
there's just so so much damage and it's hard to fathom. Uh.
You know, to your point, we see it all the
time on TV UM and then everyone sort of sort
of tends to move on or a lot of people
tend to move on from it. And you know, if
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that that storm, as you know, Froggy, that was projected
at one point to maybe hit South Florida potentially up
where you are in Jacksonville. Um, you know, we were fortunate,
but even still, you know, have that storm hits he
or sure, it would have been catastrophic. But there's a
lot of infrastructure in place to be able to sort
of handle it. You can evacuate people easier, all sorts
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of things. Um. It's a different ball game down in
the Bahamas, and it's it's going to be years before
it's rebuilt. Um. Which and there's a big connection to
the Bahamas with the golf community. So that's why a
lot of people, you know, look, golf is not even
secondary at this point it's it's down, way down the
list in terms of priority. But um, there's let's face it,
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there's a lot of money in golf, a lot of
people who have the ability to help people in golf,
and those people need that help, um more than ever.
You're talking about lives that were destroyed, jobs that were destroyed.
You know a lot of the golf clubs and golf
courses on those islands, Um, the employees are all locals.
They come from those hard hit areas of the Bahamas.
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So UM, that's you know why you're seeing uh this
outpouring your support for people, and it's going to that
support is going to be needed for months and months
and months. Right. So that brings us to why, as
you said at the top of the podcast, we're speaking
to Brad facts and today because a bunch of people
have gotten together and they're putting together a pro am
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and there's gonna be a golf tournament. We'll talk to
Brad and figure out exactly how we can help, what's
being done to help, and what exactly are we going
to do to get the Bahamas back on their feet.
Because let's be honest, anybody who lives, for example, in Florida.
We vacation in the Bahamas all the time. It's so
easy to get to the Bahamas. These people need our help.
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They're there for us when we want to go on vacations.
So now we need to do our part. So let's
talk to Brad and see exactly what's going on in
the Bahamas, all about the pro am and plus we've
got other questions for him as well. Brad, thanks so
much for taking the time to join us here on
the podcast. Thank you very much for me. It's been
a world in these last weeks getting this thing organized.
But we've had so much support. I mean, there's so
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many people down here in Florida, players, amateur golfers that
spend time in the Bahamas recreationally, fishing, golfing. Uh. And
the support after the destruction from Dorian has been it's
been it's mind bothering really. So the poem is October
eight at Old Marsh and Palm Beach. Uh. The list
of names I have so far, I'm sure there are
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are are many more playing. I've got Justin Thomas, Jack Nicholas,
Ernie Els, Greg Norman, Lucas Glover, Billy Horschel. Of course,
Brad Faxton, Charles Schwartzel, Jessica Cora Court. There are so
many people playing. Is it something that fans can come
out and watch and be a part of. Well, we're
trying to limit it to to really just a membership
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at Old Marshall. Marsha's donate at the golf course, which
is a huge gesture on their part, and we don't
want this to be work. I mean, I think we
could probably open it up to the public and charge
a lot of money, but we are not there yet.
We're there's too much stuff that would have to go
get involved with that as far as finding parking, transportation,
So it's it's not going to be open to the public.
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But we have we have more players. We just got
Joaquin Memen who want a couple of weeks ago to
say to us so. Marina Alex who was also a
member of the Solheim Cup is playing. Jay Green, who
was in the final group of the U S Women's
Open this year country called but Charleston Um and and
to have you know, like a Nicholas and Norman be
one of our first two UM players to say yes. Uh,
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It just shows how appreciative they are of the efforts
to help, uh, you know, a really difficult cause you mentioned, um,
you know some of the names. I mean, there's there's
a real outpouring support, you know, justin Thomas of course,
we've seen the adventures uh he and Ricky Fallon and
a lot of others has had down there at Baker's Bay,
which I know was also impacted, but as also um,
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you know bakers can rebuild and so forth. That there
big missions right now is trying to help all the
people on the island who are displaced, who lost their homes,
their lives are basically destroyed. Um. You know, you and
I have talked a couple of times in the past
few weeks just in terms of the level of destruction
down there. It's really hard to wrap your head around
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until you actually see it, smell it, feel it, and
and there's been a there's a real connection. We've got
a piece coming out in Golf Digest and the next
issue in the November issue. There's a real connection, as
you mentioned, between South Florida and the Bahamas, not just um,
sort of casually, but but on the on the Gulf side.
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You know, there's there's a lot of common bonds. They're
obviously the warm weather and and the sort of lifestyle,
laid back lifestyle, and of course the hard working, good
natured people down in the Bahamas who who have been
integral to two places like Baker's Bay, two other places
on the island, all the businesses that were destroyed, all
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the homes that were destroyed. This is gonna make a
real difference, and I know it's it's something that's close
to you into a lot of other players. Well, Brian,
First of all, your article that you wrote a week
and a half or so ago for Golf Digest really
propelled our event to get some amateur golfers to come
forward and support our events. So we appreciate that we're
charging a lot of money to play ten dollars per
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foursome in today's day and age. This quickly is incredible.
We filled it out at UM twenty four groups. We're
gonna get twenty four professionals. We're gonna have an auction,
we're gonna put some live some auction items online, and
we also UM have what what our money is going
to to do. It's going to the Abaco Rescue Funds,
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So you can go to Abaco Rescue Fund dot org. Uh,
there's a woman who was a member at Baker's Bay
who's really spent a lot of time down in the
Bahamas in her life with her husband and four kids,
and the place was decimated. If you if you look
at what happened to free Heart Freeport, to marsh Harbor,
iguantaqu those northern outside islands were destroyed were the amount
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of loss of life has not been reported yet, it's
going to be in the thousands. And one of the
most difficult things canna for these people to do is
to find temporary shelter. So f Warren, the founder here
of the Avlico Rescue Fund, is really helping to provide shelter,
whether it's temporarily here in the US or to provide
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some tents and generators so people can live. But there's
a clean up that's going to be next to impossible
to figure out. And then there's corruption down there in
the governments. There's h pirateism, there's vandalism, there's looting by
neighboring neighborhoods, and and there's there's really nothing these people
have left in their lives. Everything was destroyed. So I
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think this is going to be a slow build Uh,
there's gonna be difficulty working with the governments to get
temporary visas over here. I mean, it's very complicated. There's
a lot of people trying to raise money in different ways.
We want this to go to immediate use to help
the people because everybody wants to be back in the
Bahamas and to have their lives back. You know, it's
unbelievable how much devastation can be caused by these storms.
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And I was saying earlier that the cleanup is the problem.
They're just gonna have to once they do find how
many unfortunate deaths there were. I don't think there's really
a clean up process. It's more going to be pushed
it in a pile and just incenterated. There's really nowhere.
They don't have the infrastructure like we have here in
the States to clean up and to start over. And
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so that's why things like this are so so important
to help get this country back on their feet and
get them moving forward again, because it is going to
take so long to get them back together. So everything
that you guys are doing is extremely appreciated bread well,
and just the simplicity of what we think would be
able to burn the remains of the homes and buildings
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that are left and destroyed. The US doesn't want the
pollution going the way. There's kena goals that can get
in the way and get the air, So even that
has to be more well thought out. So nothing's going
to be easy to do for these people. And right
now there's you know, the feet that are on the
ground over there. It can be dangerous to people, um
that I know that have have gone over there have
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had to bring sort of a mini army with it
with them in certain areas. And look, I want everybody
to know that, um. Seth Law and Justin Leonard who
kind of came up with this idea together because their
connection to the Baker's Bay with Beth Warren. They reached
out to me. I'm the local guy down here in
South Florida with some experience in running some events and
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some fundraisers and know a lot of the pros and
know a lot of the clubs and the amateurs around here. Um,
what this group of people have done in this short
of time frame is remarkable. I mean the quality of
this event, um, that we'll do in practically four weeks
from the time we play, which is a week from
today on eight. I don't I don't think that any
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group could do it as quickly. We have to raise
this amount of money. I just got um a package
today from Michael Jordan with a signed jersey on it. Um.
We've had people reaching out from really all over the
country with donations to the website. UM that just know
what we're doing. So your support is helping. Every time
somebody hears about beam a Strong pro am or Avoco
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Rescue Fund dot org. Uh, we're getting a benefit from
it right once again. The website is www dot Bahamas
Strong ProAm dot com. Go up to the top you
can see the thing to donate. It is a five
oh one C three class charity. So you are it
is you know it is something you can write off,
but you do want to donate. It's Bahamas Strong progam
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dot com. Yeah, just tremendous effort. One question night have
is are there are you going to auction off any
of your putters, because as we know, you are one
of the putters to ever of the game, So anything
people can do to get their hands on a brad
Facts and putter would be amazing, or at least maybe
some putting tips well. This is all in any way,
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when you look at gog on tour today, who are
You're maybe two or three favorite putters to watch on
tour and why you know, that's a great that's this
great question we've seen and you're talking about the current
day players. I'm sure what I've what intrigues me so
much about putting and playing with some of the best
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players in the world, and putting with some of the
best players in the world, uh, talking to players like
Tiger Woods, Rory McElroy or Justin Thomas in Jordan's Steve Um.
You know, trying to figure out what are the common
denominators is something that I'm so curious about because you
look at all the different styles that players used to putt. Well,
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Jack Nicholas was really crouched down as close to the
Paul is any great putter we've ever seen. And you
saw somebody more upright like Ben Crenshaw, uh, and somebody
looked more robotic like Tyger Woods machine like really, and
then you have all these individual styles that are somewhere
in between there, like you know Jim Burrett, who seemed
to change the style that he used a lot with
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the grip the way he went across handed um for
left hand low the I get amazed by that. But
you know, we saw some record breaking putting a few
years ago by both Jason Day and Jordan's Speace, And
what makes that exciting to me is it's the combination
of everything. It's really there's not one thing that people
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always want. One thing. They want that one thing that
you can put on a in a jar and put
it at CBS on the counter and people are going
to go buy it. Um. But to me, that's why
I like helping players and talking about players about putting,
because it's it's an entire package of you know, the
equipment that you use, the way that you see, the
way that you think, the way that you move your
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root team, and then really how you think after you
hit a put whether the putt goes in or whether
the put goes out, You've always got to respond in
some kind of positive way if you want to continue
to be a great putter. So I love guys that
have great attitudes, UM. I love guys that have putted
well for a long period of time that sustained that UM.
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And I love seeing guys that I've talked to that
i've maybe helped that have had career years on the
putting green, like Rory McElroy, like Patrick Cantley um with
distinctly different styles, and you would you would think that
everybody would be teaching people the same things that that's
never going to happen. So I don't even know if
I came close to answer that question. Did you did?
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But you know, I want to ask you. And it's
something you always see people doing the you know, the
watching event and say, Dustin Johnson get gets hot with
this new tailor made spider X putter, so they're gonna go, Hey,
I'm gonna go buy a spider X putter. Will a
new putter help a player or is every putter different
as to what type of putter they should be using.
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Whether it's how the putter sits at a dress, whether
it's got a little bit of toehang, whether it's face balanced,
all of those things are something you need to get
fitted and find out what fits you and your stroke.
Is that correct? Definitely? And I would probably be of
the camp right now that the type of putter that
you use is important. And you know, you'll have some
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people say that, you know, if you take the putter
and rotate it too much open and closed with a
with a putter with a lot of toe hangger. Getting
a face balanced putter will help eliminate that, and I
think the research shows that it helps a little bit
of it, but not a ton of it. But what
what to me? What happens when when somebody tries a
new putter or a new grip to use for a while.
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Those things allow the player to feel like they have
some freedom and there's not handcuffs on them, like I'm
trying this putter off. So it doesn't work, It doesn't
matter because I'm just this is an experiment, And I
think it's that brief change and attitude that really can
help a player um to put better almost immediately with
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a new putter. And and you you've seen it yourself.
I bet you guys have gone on the range and
you see a buddy that's got a nice club, a
nice driver and nice you know, wedge, and you hit
a couple of chip shots and you hit a couple
of drives and his club always goes well, doesn't it?
And you go find that happen because you swing it
with you know, that reckless abandon that you had when
you were a kid, and then all of a sudden
you go in the pro shop and you buy the
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exact same thing, but it doesn't work because it's yours.
And you know, I tend to look at stuff like
that too. I'm looking now at the list of guys
that are great putters on the tour, just statistically, and
I look at a guy like I don't know, brand Snedeker,
who has a unique style, kind of a pop stroke
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that's putted well for a long time. Phil Nicholson's up
there in putting stats, um, and then some new young guys,
the seventeen year old Patilla who just turned pro and
he's way up there in the putting stats. And uh,
you know cee cee forty nine year old Phil Nicholson
in seventeen year old Batilla up there, Joachim Meeman who's
playing on our event. He's one of the top players.
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And I don't know that these these guys just find
a way to feel confident when they're over there putter,
and is very rarely do I hear of putter comings.
A player comes and say I'm thinking about so many
things that's really helped me. Yeah, I don't hear that brod.
One guy you mentioned, you know, in that conversation, Rory mclory.
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Of course, his ups and downs to the putter have
been well documented. That he had probably you know, at
least statistically, I think his best season today yet on tour. Now, look,
he didn't win a major, but he still want a
few times weekend in week out, he was right there
near the top of the leader board almost every time
he teated up. Curious your thoughts on the season he
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how to know, you've done some more work with him
on his putting, but just the improvements, um you've seen
with him the season he had versus a guy like
Brooks kept of course that was a hot debate in
terms of player of the year. Uh Glory somewhat surprisingly
beating out Brooks for that war. Both had unbelievable seasons,
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Brooks of course winning a major championship and finishing in
the top four in the other three. What what stood
out to you about their two seasons when they were
they were both incredibly good seasons, great seasons, you know,
I popularity among his peers in in the fan base
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that that was clearly what gave him an edge. And
and some people I've heard on radio shows, Michael breed
that they don't like it. They think it should be
a more of a point system. Um. But but I
love to breakdown Brandon Shandley gave on Golfield of how
this is player of the Year. It's not Player of
the May years. It's it's not just player for four weeks.
And I think if if Rory McElroy had had had
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the year that kept go one, McIlroy would have won
the Player in the Year with Kepta's record because he's
such a popular player. UM and and Kepta, who you know,
with all due respect, has found a way to compete
well in these major championships unlike many players have ever done.
UM in this short time frame. You know, he made
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a couple of comments that I'm sure I would think
that he would regret her I hope they would regret.
When he showed up to the Canadian Open this year,
he said, I'm just using this as practice for next week. Now,
you think about that, when the tournament director of the
Canadian Open heres out of the fan base in all
of Canada, they're like, wait a minute, this is our
national championship and it's a practice round. UM. Players here
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that they see that, and you know, mcloy did something
this year statistically that's been unmasked by any other player
in the history of golf except for Tiger Woods. In
his his ball striking TEDD Green. Um in the amount
of strokes gained he had was better than anybody ever
since the strokes game points system started in two thousand
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and three. So he's done remarkably well. From TV Green
and you know, he's putting strokes games for the year,
he's twenty four ranked putting with those kind of numbers
TV Green that that's a hard combination to beat Um.
And he was clearly very consistent throughout the year. He
was always seemed to be Um. If he didn't have
a good start to the events, he had a great finish.
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I had a chance to win many times. And I
just think it's the beginning for Rory. I mean, he's
got these thirties right in the prime of his career,
and I know he's gonna win majors again. I know
he feels he's going to win more. So it's it's
been fun to be around this guy because I think
he's he's our modern day Arnold Plumber. Really, uh, he's
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you know, you look at Tiger and and maybe Phil,
and Phil's not playing to the top of his game.
Rory mac royce. What who everybody comes to watch now right?
You know, Brad, you bring up Tiger, you bring up Roy,
you bring up majors that I know that Paul Eisinger
is well documented as saying that he believes that the
Masters this past year was tiger swansong, that he climbed
the mountain again, he won, and believes that that is it.
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I know that Tiger's a friend of yours. I know
you've played golf with Tiger and you've also played with
President Trump. Do you believe that we've seen the last
up Tiger winning a tournament or a major or do
you think there's more in there and that maybe this
knee injury that we just had some some scoping done
on the knee in the off season. Will we get
a more competitive Tiger back next season? I think we can.
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I was a doubter a few years ago that that
he'd ever compete again the way he was going. Uh
when McRoy played with Tiger in the final round at
the Tour Championship, when he won two years ago, when
Tiger won, um Roy said to me after he says
he's never been around a great player that consistently hit
his irons to pin high like Tiger Woods did. When
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you saw his final few holes on the final nine
at the Masters this year, and remember the shots that
he hit, how accurate they were both with distance and
accuracy was remarkable, especially the foe Irony hit into the
fifteenth green uh to set him upself for a bird
there on a shot that is no gimmea. But I
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believe that these greatest players like Jack Nicholas and Tiger
and Rory Um, they're great because they played well and
they endured for a really, really long period of time.
So when they get themselves in the competition and injected
it at the age of forty six when he won
the Masters in six, they don't forget those feelings of
how to play those last few holes. Um, it's exciting.
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And today we talked about the the depth of the
young players out there. We talked about Patia before or
Victor Hogland or Colin Morcawa, Matthew Wolfe. I mean these
young guys Joachim Mean and Um spectacular player. I also
think that on the other end of the spectrum, We're
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going to continue to see you guys be able to
play physically into their forties and even into their fifties.
And if I were the Senior Tour of the Champions Whore,
I'll be worried because I don't see Phil Nicholson going.
I can't wait to get out there on the senior tour. Um.
You know he wants to still find a way to
win a US open Um. Sam Steve won in his fifties.
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Has been a number of players, Craig Stalla, Peter Jacobson,
Ray Floyd, that one in their fifties. And these players
you lose, lose a little bit of identity once you
get at the Champions Tour. Certainly, Um, they're not going
to be financially motivated to go play senior Tour golf,
you know, speaking of greatness and and and speaking of
being really good and winning for a long time. I
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know you're a New England guy, and I know that
bringing up the Patriots is always a safe conversation. So
let me ask you right now here we are three
weeks into the season. Patriots are still one of these
there's only three undefeated teams, they're one of them. Are
we looking at another Patriots Super Bowl in It's funny
how this works. I'm a longtime Patriots fan. Before Tom
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Brady ever showed up. I was, you know, sitting in
Sullivan Stadium on those metal seats when it was cold,
and um, you know, there weren't many highlights there probably
yeah grog, you know, yeah, totally eastern, right, so you
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had dropkick. So what's amazing was after two games they
were talking about undefeated season and you watched the struggle
in Buffalo. Um. The Patriots always find a way to win.
And they did it offensively a couple of years. They've
done it defensively the last few years. What they've done
so far this year with a you know, the team
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that's in a little bit of shambles. They've had two
of their offensive linemen UM go down for the year.
David Andrews or center is out, Isaiah Wynn, who is
the starting left tackle, is out again, and I are UM.
So they patchwork everything together. They had Antonio Brown in
for you know a quick second. Uh. And so there's
always drama injuries last year suspensions with Edelman Gronkowski gone, UM.
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But somehow they find a way, um to put themselves
in a chance to win every time they play. And
I don't think there is anybody on the planet like
Bill Belichick that can figure out strength and weakness of
another team. And I know I say we because I
feel like I'm part of the Patriots empire. Are so
despised by everybody, whether it's different things that Belichick's done,
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spying on other teams, where it's how he treats the media.
I get it, Tom Brady, they win their first game
against Pittsburgh, you know, by thirty points, and he's saying,
we could do a lot better. Uh. That pisses everybody off.
But at forty years years old, he still wants to
get up early in the morning and be the first
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guy to the state. You know, I said this before
we had you on, Brad. The Patriots to me or
like you know, or maybe turning around Brooks Keepka is
like golf version of the Patriots to me, he's just
he just you know, he sort of has this polarizing,
uh viewpoint, viewpoint, and um, yeah, he just keeps winning,
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you know, big tournaments. Patriots keep winning super Bowl despite
you know, no matter what's going on, whether it's Antonio
Brown controversy, spy gay uh, you name. They just keep winning, definitely.
And I think Chick when he first got to New England,
he had he had been the Browns coach and tried
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this strategy or tapped if of not giving anything to
the press, and it didn't work because they were terrible. Yeah. Yeah,
and you know he got I think one of his
first seasons with the Patriots, you got to ask the
question by one of the female reporters and something happened
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soon after that where it got out and he just said,
you know what, I'm done. I'm not answering any more
questions for anybody. So I don't even know why they
have press consciences because every writer there could write what
they want anyway without any of his quotes. Unless you're
taught about history of certain players, he's not going to
be very responsible. Brad, thank you so much for your time.
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You guys, great talking to you. Um. I appreciate the
support you're giving us uh with the Bahama Strong PRORAM
and you know, if if anybody wants to go and
check it out, there's a donate page there and go
to Abaco Rescue Fund dot org. Uh see the Tragedy
of what's happened. Some of the pictures are just it's
incomprehensible what happened there. Yeah, you can follow Brad on
social media. He's on Twitter at Brad Factson, on Instagram
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at b Facts and you get all the information there.
You can see what's going on. I just saw your
Instagram story you posted today with the apply wood through
the tree. That's what a per Winds does and that
is what they're trying to recover from in the Bahamas.
Brad Factson and many others doing their part to help. Brad,
thank you for your time and really appreciate all you're doing.
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You guys, thank you so much. Thank you all right
to Brad Facts and thanks so much for your time. Brad.
Once again, any information you'd like about the pro am
It is at www dot Bahamas strong pro am dot com. Yeah,
Brad's a huge New England Patriots fan. Uh, but Brian,
I think you and I were more college. I mean, listen,
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I'm a Buccaneers fan. We scored fifty five points last week.
We probably won't score fifty five points the rest of
the season combined. Um are Broncos fan and we're still
looking for that first first victory of the years, maybe
a bit you in the ass on Sunday. Let's listen,
I just hope they lose the rest of their games. Now,
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get a real quarterback in there, get you know, Tank
for two. Let's let's do no. I think the Dolphins
are trying to do that as well. Yeah well yeah, yeah,
so there will be a nice competition between the Dolphins
and the process for that for that tick. But speaking
in college football now, I know, going back a couple
of weeks, we are five, five games in to the
college season, you and Billy Horschel had a wager on
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the Flora Gator was waiting. Doesn't see how long this
would take to be brought up. The Canes and the
Gators played that week zero game. Um, I was there
and I remember walking onto that stadium with with a
Gator victory. So don't you owe Billy Horshell a dinner somewhere?
I may I may Openilly at dinner at the restaurant
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is his choice. Um yeah, this this coming season. So
um you know that that did not It's hard for
me to even talk about it, quite honestly, because I
had high expectations for the Canes. They were they were
mixed expectations. Um, but you know they played well during
that game. They're not good. And now they've they've got
(42:17):
they've they've got a ways to go. They you know,
they play Alabama in a couple of years to open
the season and I think twenty one, I believe. So
I got a little bit of work to do between
now and then to be competitive in that game. Um,
it's tough, it's it's it's been a rough go since
that rousing victory against Notre Dame in here in Miami. Yes, yes,
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that was a long time. We got anohing. Gators have
had a good, a good start to the season. We
beat Miami, Uh, we beat you T Martin, we beat Kentucky,
we beat University of Tennessee, we beat Towson. But now
we get the real schedule we've got I like how
you just sort of slipped in. That's been a great start.
We beat you T Martin and in Towsand yeah, that's
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I'm glad you were able to hang on in this game.
You got to play your schedule. But but now we
pick up and we play Auburn this week. Then we've
got l s U on the road, We've got South
Carolina on the road and Georgia and Jacksonville. So our
schedule is about to get really tough. We're about to
find out exactly who we are three of the next
four weeks. Yeah, and I think you're going to find
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out that there's there are teams like Alabama and Clemson
and l s U and Georgia, and then there's everybody
else and Florida would be and not everybody else category.
Just yeah, it really is. It's become college football has
become there's quite a chasm of between the top say
(43:49):
three or four teams whatever wherever you want to draw
that line, and the rest of uh college football. Now, look,
certainly the Gators beat Miami, Miami's ways to go between
before they're um, probably at the same level at least
consistency as Florida. But um, it really is about the
(44:09):
top three or four teams and everybody else. There's seems
to be to me at least a pretty big gap there. Yeah.
I mean, obviously Clemson did not play well against North Carolina,
but I think Clemson, Bama, maybe Georgia you could put
in this scene. But but Georgia every year seems to
get there and then they can't finish. I think Auburn
is a lot better than people realize they are, and
(44:31):
I think we're gonna find that out on Saturday. Um.
But right now, believe it or not, I think the
best team in the country is Ohio State. Well yeah,
you can put them in the conversation, but to me,
it's it's no one's as good as Alabama. And that's Um.
You know, we're gonna have whoever it is to pick
your your four teams. Whatever those four teams are going
to be. Um, I don't think there's going to be
(44:53):
in other ways, not going to be an argument for
a fifth team. Um, you know, because to me, there's
there's just gonna be that gap between the top three
four teams in the country, uh and everybody else. That's
what's unbelievable is how long Nick Saban has been able.
And remember he is to constantly replace coaches because they
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go get other jobs. Kirby Smart at Um at Georgia.
He's got Pruett at Tennessee who's not doing well. He'll
be available real soon if he'd like him back. Um,
you know said at the Miami the quarterbacks right last year,
and now the offensive coordinator heard for Miami. Yeah, it
doesn't seem to matter. We'll look when you get the
(45:36):
best players, you know, then that's what happened. You can't
afford to lose coaches. Unbelievable. Once again. If you want
to help in the Bahamas and be a part of
the pro am is going on in Palm Beach on
October eight, get all the details at Bahama's strong pro
am dot com. And big thanks to Brad Faxson for
(45:57):
coming on the program. We will talk to you again
so June and I will find out where Billy Horschel
will be eating his fine dinner on Brian's dime thanks
to the Florida Gators, hopefully on the next Playing Through podcast.
Thanks for listening to appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon.
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