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November 13, 2025 42 mins
Kevin Gorman calls in to share his reactions to Paul Skenes being named the 2025 NL Cy Young winner last night.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For appliances.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is WDVEE Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Do I really want to.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Spend forty g's a year to go out of state?
To go because I convinced two of my best friends
to go there. I love that school. I love the
whole idea of me. I loved it there. I loved
and then I was like, I can't afford it. I
have to go to Penn State. And then I transferred
over to Penn State. And the money that that saved
me coming out of college, I ended up with I
believe sixteen thousand total total that compounded because I couldn't

(00:29):
pay my student loans until I got the job at DVE.
I mean, there was just collectors calling my house all
the time, and I'd be like.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Good luck. They are relentless, blood from a stone. Oh.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I left them messages all the time. Hehy, the money
is in the park under a tree. Go get it, dude.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Sally May used to hit up everybody of my family,
like my employer, like they were calling everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Like Clodro trying to get to twenty five guys.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
I'm a dead beat, Like you took a gamble on
Bill Crawford, Like why you hit me that's stop bothering my.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Cousins, Brandy Bellman and the DV Morning Show.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Bille Crawford student loan.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
ScOTF Law.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
I'm almost paid off that.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yes, he just paid him off, and that's why he
has decided to jump ship.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
He finally paid off his student loans.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
No, I haven't. Actually I still.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Do you really go insane?

Speaker 4 (01:32):
This is this is my generation is going to be
the first generation that has kids going to college and
are still paying off their student line.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I told Kennedy, like, you've helped me pay off mine
and then you're free to go to college wherever you want.
But we got to take care of first things first,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, we hit we broke the news yesterday and tomorrow's
gonna end up being Bill's last day here as part
of the DV Morning Show and he is off to
dream Chase. As he said, all of you know, the
love that you must have felt yesterday had to feel good.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Oh man, Yeah, it was a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Thank you to every single person that that messaged me,
texted me.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I bet your phone was good.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
The dms were lit up, Like I just I was
not expecting that blown away, But I guess I shouldn't
have been surprised, because you know this station. I always
tell people it's it's the equivalent of growing up here
and uh and playing for the Steelers. This listenership, I mean,
it's it's the best. There's there's nothing like it. And

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when I first started, I remember talking to Artie Lang
because I was opening for him at the Bay In
Theater and and I told him, Hey, man, like, I
just you know, got on this morning show in Pittsburgh,
and he said, dude, there is nothing like the relationship
you will have with the listeners of a morning show.
It's a closer relationship than anything else, stand up anything.

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They know you more intimately than anyone else in your life.
And that's why I kind of I broke up yesterday
when I was saying, like, you know, people say like,
I feel like I.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Know you like you do. We share everything about our lives.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I mean, we're talking for twenty hours a week here
on the radio.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I got that recently at an event that I was
playing at and people are like a couple of people
said like, I feel like I know you guys.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
I'm like you do.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I mean we wouldn't be doing our job if you
didn't know us, you know, and it is exactly what
you hear on the air.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
But you know, not everybody has the ability to do
that kind of stuff. You know, like the bosses don't
let them.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
This is a special place where they understand it really
is that there's a relationship between the people on the
air and the listener that's just different than anywhere else.
And we work for this behemoth corporation which you were
now all too familiar with, and like it's not the
most fun thing sometimes when they try to make you
part of a cookie cutter business plan and you have

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to explain to people all the time.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Like, eh, around here, we do things a little bit different.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, but ultimately everybody sees that immediately, because that's the
success of DVE is that there's a special relationship that
goes back forty years, yeah, with the you know, going
back to Jimmy and Steve yep, the listeners and the
people on airt DV. And that there are people who
tell me still they've been listening since Jimmy and Steve,

(04:31):
and I say to them, I don't have time to
talk to you because you're out of the demo you
are too old.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, no, no, no, I pick those people's brains because
in a lot of ways, those people know DV better
than me.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
They do.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
And that's what I was gonna say, is they know
they had relationships with the people who are on the
air all afternoon back then.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
They they have come.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Up with like Marcy and Herschel and Sean McDowell and
Michelle Michaels and Paulson and Kren and they kill Bossy
Kid and you know, Chris Winner for a long time
on the Eddie c Crow, you know, and those things
don't change, you know, Val Porter for for a whole

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bunch of years.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
So it's a it is a special.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Unique bond that the morning show in particular has with
the listeners. And I'm glad you felt all that love yesterday.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah no I I I the love is shared.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
I feel the same exact way about all of the
people that listen to this show.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
And it made me laugh yesterday because it's all like.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Good luck, we love you, think we'll miss you every
good luck, good luck, good luck, and then like you know,
one of the comments will be like I ain't buying it,
and I'm just like all right, Inspector jag Off, like,
calm down, stop trying to uncover something like I'm you know,
what's so funny.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Someone in the news media like hit me up to like,
off the record, what happened?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
And I was off the record, I'm like, oh man,
he sexually harassed Mike pursuit he was taking it dump
Like what do you know he left the door opens
on the record.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, you'd be forgiven if that drove you at the door.
Randy's too obsessed with you, Fitzgerald. He won't stop talking
about Well I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
People keep sending me stuff like it's just not stopping
right now. But at any rate, uh, you know, obviously
this is it's a tough couple of days here, but yeah, dude,
doors wide open here, you know that.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Well, no, it's it's it's been an honor, you know,
it's been a privilege. And I hope that whoever is
sitting in this chair next gets to experience the embrace
of the listeners like they embraced me, like it is. Honestly,
it's the best thing that ever happened to me, you know.
I mean, and I have two kids, so don't tell them,
and I hope they're not listening right now.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
No way.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
All right, Well, we got seven more hours to punch
the clock. Here, Let's let Abby roll with the news.
Kevin Gorman will talk about the Paul Skeens news at
seven forty five. Big Cattle join us eight forty five,
and Billy Gardell will give us a special Thursday call.
Today around nine thirty plus, we'll have Randy Miller, the
author of that story about Paul Skeen's wanting traded to
the Yankees. He will join us here on the DV

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Morning Show right around nine to twenty five or so. Abby,
What's up?

Speaker 2 (07:23):
News?

Speaker 7 (07:23):
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Speaker 1 (07:33):
No Costco warehouse.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
Retailer in Pennsylvania currently sells alcohol, but that soon could change.
The Cranberry Costco is attempting to obtain the liquor license
formally held by the former Hula Hans in the township.
According to the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board online documents, the
license is similar to the ones changed such as Giant
Eagle and sheets have acquired the licenses mandate cafe seating

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and separate cash registers to sell wine and beer. The
attempted licen sin transfer could be seen as an attempt
for Costco to get ahead of new competition that's coming
to Cranberry. Wegman's is developing a new store in Cranberry
on twelve acres of land on Cool Springs Drive, next
to the upmc use sports complex. Many of its stores

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already sell alcohol. Additionally, Meyer is planning to build a
supercenter in the township on the corner of Route to
twenty eight and Franklin Road, near North Catholic High School
and Meer warehouses typically sell beer and wine as well.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's more than Crampedberry, am I right?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
My right?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
They got way too much stuff, dude, Yeah, there's too
much stuff relative to how many people are out there now.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Costco does not sell booze now.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
No, but if would they sell it at a low
price or something I don't understand or just giant bottles. Yeah,
it just help me get I need I need you
to get a Dolly over here for this five gallon
bottle of whiskey.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
The last thing I bought it Costco was a case
of that.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Zero point zero Heineken.

Speaker 7 (09:08):
I was like kind of like, all right, they're great,
but they had cases of that, and I'm like, this
is awesome, cool and I now, of course, the thing
that always bums me out about Costco is you find
something once you are pumped that it's at Costco, and
then you will never see it again.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Gotta be honest, I don't go to Costco.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Wait, why will you never see it again?

Speaker 7 (09:26):
I think that's kind of the model of Costco. I'm
speaking out of school here a bit, but I think
they get I think they get discounts with vendors that
are advantageous price wise, so you see them fly in,
you get the discount for a short amount of time,
and then that deal expires, and then new products come in.

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So at one point I was obsessed with cauliflower rice
and a very specific brand.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
And I'm like Costco, me and you man, we're gonna
be together forever. And then now I can't get that anywhere.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Dam It's been a minute since I've been the Costco.
But like Sam's Club, Costco kind of the same thing, right.
The difference is Costco has dollar hot dogs? Is that
is that what it is.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah, mean the Costco guys, they got those double chunk
I forgot about that.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Those dudes they're over now, right, I mean, we're nobody's
talking about them.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
They Oh god, that guy was on that. The Whistler's
on the Epstein list.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah wait as a as on what side of the list?

Speaker 5 (10:30):
The wrong side of the list.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
He was the dog that hadn't chunked yet.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, uh yeah, those guys kind of went away. That
was a quick those like chewbacko mom life span on
the internet. But did they like I don't know, yes,
they could be attorney general in yeah, five or six years.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen them online. But
they're not gone. They're not.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I'm sure they're trying. But I mean, what's your level
of entertainment from people like that? And that's the wird
thing about the internet is this like you gock, you
got you gock, and then you're like, I'm tired of
this and then you move on.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, the kid's gonna grow up someday, you know.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
So how cute can the double boom chunk?

Speaker 4 (11:13):
I mean, the Rizzler is going to be on ozembic
in two years minimum.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah right, you would think. But you're right about the
dollar hot dog thing. Okay, that is a main feature
of Costco, and a guy who runs Costco is like,
that will never change. It'll always be a dollar for
a hot dog.

Speaker 8 (11:26):
Aga.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
And do you know why Why Because it is a
marketing tool to make you believe that because Costco sells
a one dollar hot dog and that that will never change.
That that is your brain mapping out that Costco's prices
never change. I like that so that when you're spending

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way more than you thought you were spending on a
gigantic jar of mayonnaise, that you will never notice because
you only spent one dollar on a hot dog.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Oh gotcha, gotcha. We could end hunger with just people
eating hot Costco hot dogs and only a dollar.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
The pizza is actually really good too.

Speaker 7 (12:08):
Oh yeah, you can ten bucks, Like a whole large
pizza is ten bucks and it's good.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Really.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
I just never Costco Costco.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's on those picpic tables like eating at Ikea.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah oh yeah, I mean I guess I used to
eat it like hills ild Go get a slurpie and
a disgusting hot dog or some popcorn was always Cofmin's.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
You'd go to TikTok Cafe, right.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, but that was like fancy. I mean Nordstrom right
now on the second floor has a little restaurant. Yeah,
and it's like fancy pants.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I've eaten there. Yeah, I eat there one time.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
And by fans, I mean like hold of hands TGI
Fridays fans.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, like they have like a seared tuna salad or
something like that. It's not just mall food. But I
was waiting for a suit to get tailored there one time,
and I was like one of stairs and had lunch like, well,
this is delightful.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Took your gloves off.

Speaker 7 (13:08):
If I went and bought the gloves and then of course,
well Eddie Murphy has O c D, or at least
he did. In the new Netflix documentary, Eddie claims that
he basically cured himself. When Eddie was a kid, he
used to do things like get out of bed multiple
times to check the stove and make sure that the

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gas was off every single night, and he always thought
that he just did weird things.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Then he saw a news report on O c D
and it all clicked.

Speaker 8 (13:38):
Quote.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
It was like, oh, that's what I'd be doing, and
then I'm sorry, I don't.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I wasn't gonna try.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
There was a second where I was like, go for it,
and then I thought, don't go for it, he said.
And that's when I saw that it was some mental
illness crap, and I made myself stop doing it. I said,
I'm not doing it no more. I thought it was
weird if that I have no mental illness. Mental illness
my ass, and I forced myself to stop doing it.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I don't know that a lot of therapists would say
that that's how that works. But he says every now
and then he still feels like checking a gas stove
the second time, But he.

Speaker 7 (14:22):
Says that he just tells himself, I'm not starting it again,
and he just says, take your ass to bit.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, there's all kinds of cognitive tools to help you
when you have OCD. One of my friends had it.
She had it very very severe and exposure, right, I mean,
that's one of the that's one of them, definitely, But
like some of what he's doing is part of it.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
It absolutely is.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Hers was very severe. I have like the mild one,
you know where it's like did I turn the burner off. Yeah,
I should go.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
To did I hit the boot beet poop on my car?
And I bootbet pooped that thing six times as I'm
walking away from it.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
There's nothing worse than when you do it when someone's
walking by your car and you're far away from it
and they're like like jump well, but they're like insulted,
like really them up jumping your crampy for runners. But
I would also if I iron something, I definitely check

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a couple of times that I've unplugged the iron, like
oh yeah, because I just don't.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
You make sure you don't put it next to a
roll of paper towels.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I have enough well, because I think I'm preoccupied enough,
especially from not sleeping for all these years, Like during
the day, you're like half zoned out like that.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
That that would be a completely easy thing for me
to do. Just keep it plugged in, you know, take off,
like have a good day.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
See Booker knows how to unplug things, right, I have
to teach him.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, I mean I I learned how to not leave,
Like I learned a very important role early on not
to leave anything on the stove that's flammable.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
From the movie soul food. I've never seen soul food.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, but it is a fire criteria month, so I'm
gonna take a spoiler alert.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, but you know, weird stuff like that, like I'll
always look at the stove and make sure that there's
nothing flammable even anywhere near the stove, just because I
don't know, but I'm not. It's not like my stove
is just gonna pop on out of nowhere. So it's
it's unfounded in that way.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, I get that.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
I know that I do weird little things like that,
but it doesn't dominate my life. I think there was
a time where I was worse at stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Not so much.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Now, what about like just like superstitious stuff stepping on
a crack and things like that, Because that's OCD.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
It is a form of OCD, just because it OCD,
you know, is about control. It's about feeling like some
aspect of your life is not in control. So doing
a ritual, any kind of ritualistic thing, is your way
of maintaining control.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
My friend had it like so severe. It was like
the Howard Hughes thing where she nothing could be clean
enough and her hands could never get clean enough, and
so her hands were just like worn down so much.
I just felt so bad for it. She's like, it's
the worst, and she she has no fingerprints, she has
no hands anymore. Two stumps.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
No, but she would clean her her apartment and then
be like it's still not clean, and then clean it
again and then like it. That was the turning point
for her, is that she did that one time where
she cleaned her apartment, felt like it's not clean, did
the entire thing again, I'm talking scrubbing, and then hired
someone to come in and clean it after that, and
she was like this has to end. And now she's

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doing great, But you have to how did she What
do you mean she went to a specialist. It kind
of helped her get through all that stuff. And it's
not like you're free from it. I think your brain
always has those triggers. Yeah, and then you have the
cognitive ability to recognize and then react and you control
your behavior to not let it control you.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah, it's like in a beautiful mind when there's like
you know that those people don't exist, they're still there,
they're still hanging out, you just don't talk to them.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Eactly.

Speaker 7 (18:07):
Yeah, you have like sit in the discomfort of knowing
that you don't like what's happening. Yeah, but like letting
the moment pass of being like I feel like my
hands aren't clean enough.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I mean like they might not be screw it, right,
that's what you have to do.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Because I'm superstitious but also like apathetic, so like I
don't want to step on a crack. But then eventually
I'm like, my mom's back is already broken. It has
had nine sarders.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Maybe I did that. Whose fault is that?

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Yeah, I'm just saying I just I still do.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
I never walk in between two cars that are closely
parked together.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
You know.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
I don't know why, because I'm like, I can't get
out of this. I don't want to have my legs since.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
In here, and just like Beansy on the Sopranos, Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Don't want that.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
So to this day, even if it's a two cars
are parked or not, I just don't ever walk in
between two cars like that.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I kind of think that that's like superstitious, you know,
And I think superstitions are like a form of OCD
like that.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I definitely have those, And you see it in sports
all the time.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Baseball pictures never step on the line right is they're
coming off the mound. They always jump over the third
baseline of the first baseline. Speaking of which, will Paul
Skeens be doing that in the Big Apple. The new
report from Randy Miller is it Skeens has told teammates
he wants to be traded multiple times. Paul Skeens was
asked by Stephen Nesbit late last night after he won

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the Cy Young Award about that, and he didn't deny it.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
He said, my goal is.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
To win a championship here in Pittsburgh. Is it Bob
Nutting's goal? That's all that matters. So we'll talk to Randy.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
No, it is not, it's not. No, it is spoiler alert.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
He's like, I want to win with this just this
tiny bit of money that I put into the payroll.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
That's one dollar hot dogs. Yes, we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's the costco of baseball owners. So we'll talk to
Randy Miller from uh New Jersey dot com a little
bit later on. He's the one that wrote that he
writes for a bunch of different baseball was gonna say, yeah,
I was gonna say periodicals. There are no periodicals anymore.
Jim McDorman is going to join US seven forty five

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to talk about that as well.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
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Speaker 1 (20:48):
Your sports right now. I like me, yeah, well you're in.
He just did a Del Griffith and I like my hoodie, No,
it's not.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
And I normally don't pay that much attention to close,
which is perhaps why I think this is a hoodie.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
And you say, yeah, it's a fleece. I mean there's
well when you you said it's not a it's just
not a hoodie.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
It has a hood it does not all things that
have a hood or hoodie.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
I mean, well, it's not like that is a hot
dogg as Hamwarts. Well, people change the station.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
The plan have a bunch of hoodies.

Speaker 8 (21:28):
I like, yeah, old, No, the whole dress thing makes
it a different all right.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Well, let's not go down this avenue as your sports
right now, and boy, there's plenty to talk about.

Speaker 8 (21:40):
Mike Sports I brought to you by Bridgeville Appliance. Paul
Skean's got himself a Rookie of the Year award last year.
Now he's been named the unanimous winner of the National
League Cy Young Award. But what Skiings really wants is
to win.

Speaker 10 (21:55):
Yeah, I mean, that's ah, that's what we need to do.
That's that that needs to be the focus every day
in the locker room. I think that you know, over
the past two years. It's funny because you show up
at the beginning of spring training and everybody's motivated and
happy and hopeful. That's the feeling that that I've had

(22:16):
over the past couple of years. And then as the
season gets on, the newness wears off, and you know,
you get into the grind of June, July, August, and
you know, your your why changes, your the reason that
you show up to the ballpark changes. What you're trying
to accomplish every day changes. The focus needs to be.

(22:37):
You know, winning a World Series in Pittsburgh. We haven't
done it since nineteen seventy nine. That's you know, forty
six years.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
I think.

Speaker 10 (22:47):
It's not the longest drought in Major League Baseball. But uh,
that's something that you know, we're working to change from
within the clubhouse. I know the organizations doing the same thing.
So we that's that's why I'm you know, throwing and
lifting and doing all that right now. That's that's the
goal I have. I have the cy young Now, Uh

(23:10):
what else do I have to accomplish in this game?
You know, World Series championship. So we just got to
get everybody pushing in the same direction. I think it's
going to be better next year, but you know, talk
is cheap. We have to show up and do it.
So I have confidence that we're going to and that
we're going to to get better. But there's a there's

(23:31):
a long way to go, and uh, I'm excited for
the challenge.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
Now you just heard him say, I have confidence we're
going to do So that's the only contradiction of the
Randy Miller story, which was posted yesterday on New Jersey
dot Com quoting an anonymous teammate of Paul Skeins that
says he is quote hoping for a trade, quote trust me,
he wants to play for the Yankees. I've heard him
say it multiple times. That was the emphasis of the

(23:59):
Randy Miller story. Doesn't want to wait because he doesn't
have any confidence that the Pirates are going to do
enough to be competitive.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Nobody is we talked about last hour, has trouble believing
that Paul Skeenes wants to go to the Yankees.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
And as great as he is and as good of
a teammate as he is, and as hard as he's working,
that change isn't coming inside the clubhouse.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Well, yeah, yeah, that's why I think both things are true.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I think he wants out because there he doesn't believe
they will make the changes necessary, that they'll invest in
the team.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
It costs money to win in baseball. This just in
and a lotto money.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
If he had his brothers, he would love to do
it here. I do believe that, but he knows it's
not going to happen. And he said in that same
interview that his goal is multiple world championships.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Multiple.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
He was speaking on a Zoom call last night after
he was named the Cy Young winner, and one of
the questions I forget who asked it, but they said,
would you trade to Cy Young? For a World Series,
and his response was basically, well, can't we do both?
The Dodgers just won the World Series. They have Otani
who's an MVP candidate. They have Yamamoto who's a cy
Young candidate. They have about twelve other players who are

(25:13):
really really good. Like individual success multiplied creates team success. Right,
you know one picture went into Cy Young, you still think, yeah, yeah,
So we'll see where it goes.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Randy also talked to.

Speaker 8 (25:29):
Ben Cherrington parts GM in Las Vegas as part of
that story of Cherrington telling Randy Miller that teams are
calling asking about schemes availability. Quote I suspect that won't end,
but the answer has been consistent. He's going to be
a pirate in twenty twenty six. And Charrington also said, quote,

(25:51):
it's really simple because what matters most to Skemes is
what matters to us, win more games. That's the focus,
because that's what is going to be most important to him.
What probably gives us the best chance to keep him
in Pittsburgh for longer is winning games, and that's what
we need to do anyway.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
I mean, there's a portion of the fan base that
wants to trade schemes now, anyways, because of the hall
that they could get in return.

Speaker 8 (26:15):
Closer it gets the free agency, the less you get yep,
or in this case, arbitration. I know, everybody knows the
pirates aren't gonna pay what he's gonna get in arbitration.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Maybe one year, maybe.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
There's a faction of pirate fans that just straight as
Stockholm syndrome and they're like, trade them out, you.

Speaker 8 (26:30):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
They're like, you're gonna beat the casino.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
They just want the best of what's available here. They
they stopped craving the championship, you know, or what's necessary.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
From the ownership to get that championship. They're like, maybe
maybe we can sneak out of the jail through that
tiny mousehole. Is essentially what they're hoping for. Yeah, you know,
and we've all been conditioned to this.

Speaker 8 (26:57):
You get numbto it after so many years, and great
players come through and then they then they're gone. Garrett
Cole was one of these guys, right, Yeah. I think
Skeens is a level above Cole. And that's nothing against Cole.
I just Skeens is they.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Throw that term generational around National Championship rookie of the year,
Cy Young, he's a bang bang bang.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
We haven't seen this guy before.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Nope.

Speaker 8 (27:21):
And if you're Bob Nutting, spend for two years and
try to win and then tear it down again and
stink try it once. You know what I mean. You
have done that Florida. They go up and they go down.
Try to rebuild it. Then when those guys win for
you and get expensive, you get rid of all and
you start over.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
This is where they are.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Oh, it's gonna be brutal to see Skeens, Cole and
Bednar on the Yankees.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Kevin Gorman from The Treble talk about the New York
Pirates coming up around seven forty five.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Aaron Rodgers speaking yesterday, UH, talked.

Speaker 8 (28:01):
About a lot of things.

Speaker 9 (28:02):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
The newsworthy revelation from yesterday was DK Metcalf telling me
that he flattened his route on that deep ball in
the first quarter. That's one of the reasons why things
went as poorly as they did in uh Los Angeles Sunday.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
You kept saying, I wonder if he.

Speaker 8 (28:19):
I think I was questioning it, like did he really
just miss or was it.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
And everyone else just pegged it on? Rogers?

Speaker 8 (28:25):
Is it on the other end did the receiver according
to rumors a contributing UH factor and Metcalf said he
flattened his route and should have kept going and that
might have been six.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
Steele is also looking for someone this just then to
take some of the coverage pressure off of DK Metcalf.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
He's getting doubled relentlessly.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
UH.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
That process of late includes trying to determine if Marquez, Valdi,
Scantling Ken or cannot be that guy. Uh.

Speaker 9 (28:51):
That's a good question for Arthur. You know, I think
that he's a smart guy. He's spent a lot of
time studying. But you know, we got to getting more
reps with the first team to see where he's at.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
And that question will be asked of Arthur today.

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of talk about with Paul Skiens and Kevin You know
the report yesterday after Skeens wins the Cy Young Award
has people talking quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Bill Crawford, of course, wants to go to the Yankees.
We all we all know that now.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
But let's first talk about Paul Skeens and his trajectory
from college to now. Is there a comparison in terms
of major League Baseball pitching that we've seen a guy
burst on the scene like this and have as much
success from the time he was a senior in college
to his second year in major leagues.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Gosh, no, there's nobody that comes off the top of
my head.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
You know, Mark Pryor is the guy that is the
comp that I would use in terms of the size
and the power and the dominance. But Schemes as far
out performed what prior did. When when he you know,
when he was in college and in the majors.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
And prior is is he a pitching coach for the
Cubs now?

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yeah, I think it's. I think it's the Dodgers. I
couldn't mistaken. Yeah, But I mean there's in terms of
the guy that came out of college and had that
type of size and power and was very dominant very
early in his career, but not like this. I mean,
this is we're talking about Schemes doing something that hasn't
been done since Dwight Gooden in terms of winning Rookie

(31:27):
of the Year one year and Cy Young the next.
But Gooden did that at age of nineteen twenty, I believe. So,
you know, he didn't go to college, and he's a
guy who flamed out early, you know, and had a
long career, but was dominant very early in his career.
I have a filming Schemes because of his discipline, because
of the way he goes about his business, not only

(31:49):
on the mental side of it, the physical side of it,
but also the pitch development side of it. I mean,
this is a guy who's only going to get better.
I think there's a you can make a comparison that
in terms of dominance early in his career, Clayton Kershaw
would be a comparison as a guy who's dominant at
a very young age. But what we're seeing, you know,

(32:09):
Mike talked about this earlier, the generational talent. We're seeing
something special here, and I think that's what adds to
the frustration for Pirates fans and for even someone like
Schemes who knows that he's baseball's best bargain, one of
the most productive pitchers in the game, and I think
only Trek Scoubel and maybe Zach Wheeler in the same conversation,

(32:33):
and the Pirates are paying him less than a million
dollars a season right now, and that they haven't supplemented
the savings and salary, and not in terms of scheme salary,
but just in terms of that production. You'd have to
be paying forty million dollars to get a picture to
produce the way Schemes has that they haven't channeled that
into the rest of the major league payroll has been

(32:54):
highly disappointing, not only to the fan base, but to
really everyone in baseball. You know that this is this
is something that raises eyebrows around those sports that the
Pirates haven't gone all in while they have schemes under
club control.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
keV.

Speaker 8 (33:08):
Just for the sake of argument, let's assume Ben Sherington
wakes up tomorrow and says, you know what, I'm gonna
trade him.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
What do you get back?

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah, because of the years of control, which is a
really big thing. You know, you're not talking about a
guy who's on an expiring contractor has you know, two
years left an arbitration. But use maybe the one Sodo
trade as a comparison. And the Nationals tried to sign him.
I think they offered him a four hundred million dollar deal,

(33:38):
and he ended up in free agency signing for more
than seven hundred million dollars. But the Nationals got in return,
Mackenzie Gore's starting pitcher. They got James Wood, who's a
you know, a burgeoning star in the outfield.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
They've got cj.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Abrams, they're starting shortstop, and.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
There's a I think there's another one Robert Hassel, maybe
the outfield, or they got a haul in return, and
the Pirates could probably do something like that and it
probably would be beneficial for your long term future, but
it might in the short term lose your fan base
to feel like, Okay, we just went through you know,
what is it, seven consecutive losing seasons or at least

(34:18):
six that you and then you're going to start over
again and trade the one superstar the Pirates have, you know,
a guy, one of the guys who's one of the
very few best in the game, the elite players. So yeah,
I think it's going to happen eventually. But I also
think that, you know, as that report came out, you

(34:38):
know that the I think what Charrington said that the
the the better the Pirates do, the more they win,
the better chance they have of keeping him, rather than
feeling the need to, you know, the being forced to
trade him for the sake of the future of the franchise. Like,
you know, I'd like to see the Pirates just keep
their players as a philosophy, as a organizational philosophy, keep

(35:01):
their players until the final year of their contract, and
if you're contending, you keep them and let them hit
free agency and take the draft pick compensation, and if
you're not contending, you trade them, you know, in the
final year of their contract and just do that. As
an organizational thing, is that, Hey, we're going to maximize
the time we have our best players, knowing that we
can't compete on the free agent market. But that doesn't

(35:24):
seem to be there the way they're doing things either.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Do you think keV that Paul Schime's moving to New
York is better for baseball? Do you think that this
show Hey move the last couple of years is better
for baseball to get these superstars out of these Siberia
type markets of the league and have them on the
biggest stage.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
I don't know if it's great, you know, good for
the greater game in terms of the sport itself, the
health of it, but in terms of you know, watching
those playoffs, and I watched a lot of the baseball playoffs.
You want to see the best players on the biggest stage.
You want to see show Hey have historical performances, and
I think Schemes is capable of doing something like that.

(36:11):
I mean Scoogle, I think had back to back games
where he had thirteen and fourteen strakeouts in the playoffs,
which is absolutely amazing for a pitcher to do that,
and for you know, ya Amoto to pitch back to
back Knights in Games six and seven in the World Series.
There's another, say, young finalist. I think we're being deprived
of watching Paul schemes on that stage because he's playing

(36:32):
for the Pirates.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
But I also think it's for the health of the game.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
You want to see a player like Paul Skins when
he's the number one overall draft pick when you hit
the lottery, and not just figuratively, the Pirates actually won
the first draft lottery and we're able to select schemes.
You want to see schemes elevate that team to the playoffs.
I mean, I think that's what's good for the health
of the game. You know, you can make the comparison,
and I think it's not just apples oranges. You know,

(36:59):
you're I think you're talking the vegetables. But you know,
you see what Sidney Crosby did for the Penguins, uh
and elevating them at a very young age to to
the Stanley Cup Final and then a Stanley Cup Championship,
And you know, I think for the sake of Pirates
fans and fans in small markets in general. You want
to see Paul Skeins take the Pirates to the playoffs

(37:20):
and be that catalyst who elevates a team from last
place to first place. And and watching the Blue Jays,
you know it can be done. The Blue Jays have
a lot of superstars on their payroll. Uh there there,
I think they were top five payroll in Major League Baseball.
But you know that it can be done, that a
team can go from last to first. Uh, the Pirates

(37:41):
need to surround schemes with some stars. And and whether
those are guys that are bona fide superstars or guys
that develop into them over the course of the season
doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I think.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
I think it's just a matter of getting some players
in there who can get some run support for a
guy who's posted back to back seasons with sub two
e er.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Do you think what Skeen said after learning of the
Randy Miller story is enough of a refutation to squash
the truth of that one that that kind of like
knocks that story off, well.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Actually off the record.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
Scheme said I'd be doing that, and he said it,
and Abby's voice doing any Murphy impressions.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Sorry, Abby, that was hilarious. I'd be doing that, I'm
She immediately apologized, which was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
But do you think it does that? Like, you know,
does that mean it didn't happen? Like it's not an
outright denial, right.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
No, it wouldn't surprise me at all. It's in private.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
Paul Skeins talked to some of his teammates about ideal
organizations to play for, or organizations that he would consider
playing for once he reaches free agency or once the
Pirates are kind of compelled to trade him. What you know,
and as Mike said, typically that's what two years left
and arbitration, when Schemes will be making some real money
and h and his trade the trade market will be,

(39:12):
you know, putting pressure on the.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Pirates to make a decision one way or the other.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
You know, they're gonna have to decide whether they're a
contender or pretender at that point in his career. But
he's never really even considered questions when people talk about
contract extension. You know, the Pirates should have signed Schemes
to a long term deal before he ever made his
major league debut, and that they didn't you know, it

(39:35):
was a mistake, you know, I think, and maybe maybe
they tried it, but he kind of said that there
was never really any discussion about that, and probably because
the Pirates knew, there was never a consideration. This is
a guy who's probably going to make a half a
billion dollars or more when he signs his first free
agent deal. But certainly it should be an indicator to
the Pirates that they should sign Connor Griffin now. And

(39:57):
this is a guy who's number one prospect in baseball.
They should lock him up long term, given that he's
a position player who's going to be very impactful for
the Pirates, both offensively and defensively. But I don't think ski.
I think that's the real reality. But I think everybody
knew that Garrett Cole wanted to play for the Yankees.
He wasn't shy about it, even though he was drafted
by the Way late in the first round out of

(40:18):
UCLA or before he went to UCLA, and that you know,
he never really considered signing with the Astros even after
he was traded there and played at a very high
level for them. So I think everyone knows the reality.
I think everyone knows that Schemes would probably prefer to
play for the Yankees if it's the American League, and
probably the Dodgers if it's the National League. Although I

(40:41):
will tell people that he grew up an Angels fan.
You know, he didn't grow up a Dodgers fan, so
it's not like he wants to play for his childhood
favorite team. But I think, more than anything, I think
players want that certainty of knowing they're playing for a
team that's going to go for it every year. And
I don't think anybody will whether you like the Yankees
or not. I don't think anybody debates whether the Yankees

(41:01):
go for it every single year.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
I grew up and be driven around in a Regency Brome,
but you know I'd rather be in a rain Rover.

Speaker 7 (41:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
It's like.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Bro Ham.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah, sorry, Kevin Varman, Sorry, buddy, we got we we
do have to jump, but thanks so much.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
Ke Let me say, let me say real quick.

Speaker 6 (41:19):
I just want to say, I'm gonna miss Bill Crawford.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
You know, the old friend part of it. You know,
you feel like you know him.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
Uh, you know, Bill treated me like an old friend.
And I've been listening for thirteen years though it's been
a pleasure it makes it makes every morning enjoyable and
I wish you.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
All the best of my friend. Thanks bro Ham. I
appreciate that. You know you know, I love your your stuff.
I respect the hell out of what you do. Nobody
talks Paul about it than you. Man, Hey Bill, you'd
be doing that, man, I do be doing that, Dan.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Kevin Garman of the Trip. Thanks Buddy.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I'd really like to hear some Ted nug listeners take
over during the Electric Lunch.

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You could put on some ACDC.

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