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Tim Benz is still skeptical on the Steelers offense who only accounted for 20 points in the win over the terrible Bengals defense.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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for appliances.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is WDV Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Flacco gets a snap back to pass. Jul's bringing five
flack over.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
The middle of field. That's picked off. It's Dugger. Dugger
to the forty yard line, racing across.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
The fifty to the forty looking for a block from
Herbig gets a trigging got the left sideline. It's Chase
this and Waltz's into the hand zone. Dougger a seventy
two yard interception return for a touchdown for the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Cole doug you're paying dividends.

Speaker 6 (01:02):
That was in the third quarter of yesterday's Steelers Bengals game,
and that put the Steelers up twenty to nine heading
into the fourth quarter, and that would be enough the
Steelers win. They emerge Victoria's yesterday thirty four to twelve
over Bungles at Akroscher Stadium. A very windy day yesterday

(01:24):
at Akershure. I didn't end up going.

Speaker 7 (01:28):
It looked really uncomfortable and cold, like I kept seeing.
On the way to my parents' house to watch the game.
I'm watching people's adorable Thanksgiving.

Speaker 8 (01:38):
Wreath's blow off isn't everything.

Speaker 7 (01:41):
I was thinking, like, this is gonna be a problem
for the game, and I couldn't tell on TV how
bad it was until they'd get to the crowd and
you just see people be like, you know, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
My friends who were at the game were texting me
saying it was cold like the wind chill with that
win knocked it down into the thirties.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yesterday mattered not for your Steelers.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
Early on it looked like the wind was just keeping
anything from happening, as they had went into halftime with
a ten to six score. It was really for the
Pittsburgh Steelers yesterday. A story of the backups because of injury.
Mason Rudolph emerges for Aaron Rodgers, who apparently may have
a small broken bone in his left hand.

Speaker 7 (02:23):
Christmas comes early with Mason, but that is scary for Rogers.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean the early indications from Ian Rappaport had
tweeted out that Aaron Rodgers is already telling people like
it won't be a long time pursuit. He thinks it's
because he shaved. He thinks that was bad luck. He
shouldn't have shaved. Then that might be the case and
doctors might recommend immediately grow that stuble back.

Speaker 8 (02:48):
And obviously because we did the Steelers pol Cup. But
by the.

Speaker 7 (02:52):
Numbers, I mean you, what was your first thought, I
mean thinking whether Mason played better narrative, because you're gonna
get that because by the numbers, if you're comparing it
relative to the time that they spent in the game.

Speaker 8 (03:09):
Two drives, you know what I mean, it's even.

Speaker 7 (03:11):
But at the same time, you can say Mason had
poise and he looks like he's got time to read
a defense. It looks like he has more catchuble passes.
But Aaron Rodgers clearly had an injury.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, but here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
I thought the offense looked a whole lot better under
Mason Rudolph kicking field goals. There's kind of the same thing.
Steelers ended up well. I mean, look, no, the second
drive was impressive, and he hit gain well again game
one with a big day yesterday. He was the other
backup that I was talking about coming in for Jalen
Warren after he hurt his ankle that one. I'm a

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little more worried about in terms of his availability next
week than Aaron Rodgers because I feel like with Mason
we're about is good.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Maybe not.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
You know, he's not as good of a football brain
as Aaron Rodgers. And here's the other thing about Aaron
Rodgers and his injury. I mean, sure, our doctors are
gonna do their thing, but he's got to do his
own research too, and that takes a little while.

Speaker 8 (04:11):
It can be a coup a couple more days. You
put alo on.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
The hand and just hope pray put a couple healing
crystals on it.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, he's got some like Hawaiian remedy for it. I'm sure.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Look, whatever he's got to do to get back on
the field, that's cool. But I'm not bummed out if
it ends up being Mason three hundred and forty three
yards total yesterday for your Pittsburgh Steelers, two hundred and
thirty two through the air. We had the ball for
ten more seconds than they did. Hey, Steelers winning time
of possession. That's a biggin That is a bigin. They

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very rarely do that. Gainwell, was your leading receiver yesterday
with eighty one yards on those two touchdowns. Jalen Warren
still the leading rusher only ten carries before he was injured.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
For sixteen yards.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Chase Brown for the Bengals nearly for one hundred yards
again yesterday at ninety nine, so they're able to get
it done on the ground against the Steelers once again.
Some big place from Nate Herbig yesterday Ian the place
of Alex high Smith. Herbb's awesome.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Is he I adore him? Yeah, he's incredible.

Speaker 8 (05:21):
But Flacco, I mean Flacco looked.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
A little less, you know, impervious than he did last time.
He the wind I think messed with him a little bit,
and I think the ghosts of hinz Field may have
been surrounding him yesterday. He had the yips a couple
of times. But all's well in Steeler Land now and
everything is headed in the right direction in terms of

(05:45):
the division six to four for your Pittsburgh Steelers who
head to Chicago. Baltimore almost drops one to Cleveland, but
Dylan Gabriel gets hurt and Shadur Sanders came in.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Did you watch any of that?

Speaker 8 (05:58):
I saw saw enough.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
So Schador's story is as promised in terms of.

Speaker 8 (06:07):
Like being a Brown's hater. That couldn't have gone better.

Speaker 7 (06:11):
Yeah, watching him just flail out immediately, So what did
he get.

Speaker 8 (06:15):
Like right away? He gets intercepted right away.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
Wasn't right away? I mean it was like the third pass.
I mean, come on, I thought he looked right away.
But he looked better than Dylan Gabriel. I mean, he
looked very poised through it. It's like Mason, you know
what I mean. It's like same result. But he almost
he had a guy open for a touchdown that would
have tied the game or with a two pointed version,
put them ahead with just like a minute and change left.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
But he wildly missed him.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
I took a couple of terrible sacks too, but that, notwithstanding,
Shador's debut, was inauspicious. The Browns are in trouble and
they couldn't do us a favor and knock off the Ravens.
We're gonna have to do that ourselves.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Michael.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Have more on the post game coming up for you
here at the bottom of the hour, Tim Benz, Jerry Dulac,
Rob King, and you know, we obviously spent the line's
share of last week, or the middle part till the end,
saying so long to our friend Bill who is now
onto greener comedy pastures, and so because it happened in

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such short order for us. I mean it was a
very quick tournament, you know, by the time that we
figured this was all going down, and then the company
kind of is like, well, you have to make the
change now, like, which makes it weird for all of us.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
In terms of timing.

Speaker 6 (07:30):
We're gonna have some friends come in and sit with
us here for the next couple of weeks until we
kind of figure out what the hell we're gonna do.
But Jeff Conkle will be in today. Mister Wednesday comes
in on a Monday, Folks. Don't let that confuse you.
I know, hearing that voice might make you think you
got a meeting later today or something like that, and
you don't. That meeting is still on Wednesday. He is

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just dropping by on Monday. Abby's got a news update
for you. Now, what's going on over there? Is this
hour brought to you by your neighborhood Ford Store. Breezy
this morning clouds than sun Anahi today of forty five,
The Federal Aviation Administration is ending its emergency flight Reduction
order this morning, allowing flights to return to normal operations
after weeks of cancelations and delays caused by the government shutdown.

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The official time for lifting the order was six am
Eastern Time, so that brings an end to the cuts
that started on November seventh, with a four percent reduction
in flights at forty major airports. The reductions were put
in place to deal.

Speaker 7 (08:29):
With fatigue and staffing problems among air traffic controllers during
the record long government shutdown. The FAA said it's rolling
back the restrictions now that staffing levels have become stable
following the end of the shutdown on Wednesday. The decision
comes at the start of the busy Thanksgiving travel period
and was made after an FAA review of safety trends
and because staffing problems at air traffic control facilities have

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been steadily declining.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Well, we got the guy from the real world on
this right, shut nothing. Surely, I'm not worried at all.

Speaker 8 (09:01):
He's been practicing for this his whole life.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
Just bring in the you know, maybe Rob from Ridiculousness
can help him out. Exactly as many of those kinds
of people as possible, you know, the brightest minds of
our generation put them on these details. And I'm not
worried about our federal aviation issues.

Speaker 8 (09:17):
What would Puck be good at?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
He's probably going to be a Supreme Court justice. Here
you go. Yeah, give him time.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
I am not planning on flying for Thanksgiving next week.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I am driving the Eerie.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
I'm not going to It was either Chicago Erie, and
I'm like, there's no way we're doing Chicago, dude. It's
not happening, not with the issues that have been mounting.
But you know my theory about Thanksgiving travel, there's only
one way to do it, and that is Thanksgiving morning.
As long as you can get a direct flight somewhere.
You walk right through the airport like you own it.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Nobody's there.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
You pop right through the security lines. You want something
from McDonald's. There's not a big line, you know how
there's always that massive line in in the airport, although
I don't know it's a new one, but still walk
right up. Nobody's there. You can hear the music. You
never even noticed it before. There's music piping through because
there's nobody in the airport. You walk onto your plane.

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Everyone's hey, ol Aria, nice to see you because they're
not having any pains in the asses because there's only
fifteen people on the plane. You fly to your destination,
you walk off, you take a cab, boom, you're at
your sister's house. It's that simple, and it's the day
of But the thing is it does rob you of
Wednesday Night. And I do like Wednesday night with the family,
doing a little turkey prep, throwing down a few glasses

(10:34):
of wine, playing the music, doing a little notioning on
this and that and the other thing. And then you
always have a meal that's a little bit, you know,
of a precursor, non turkey related while we're doing turkey
to marrows pizza wings or tacos, you know, And that's
always a delightful hang too.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
So you are robbed of that.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
But to me, the planes, trains and automobiles of Thanksgiving
are worth of witning.

Speaker 8 (10:59):
Do you turn it up the night before Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Because not anymore.

Speaker 8 (11:02):
I don't either.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
And that's always been a huge night for people who
want to come back from high school or college. Everybody
wants to get together, and that's why that's such a
big drinking night. I don't have the bandwidth for it anymore.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
I'm more like you were.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
I want to kind of be settled with whatever the
family plan is, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
More charcuterie board.

Speaker 8 (11:22):
I want to do light bites.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
That's right. Wine security board.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
As you know though, is that's like the light bite
idea on a charcuterie board. I end up eating the
equivalent of a triangle sub by the end of the night.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
Only yeah, I'm in pain by the end of the
goody boards.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
No light bites.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
It's nitrates itself, it's fat, it's cheese, and you just
don't stop because you're like, well, I'm only having a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
You're not, No, you're not.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
But I told you my secret weapon on the charcuterie board,
which we can go through exactly what needs to be
on there. But my secret weapon is I always put
dried fruit and prunes also go on the charcuterie board
because you got to move that cheese.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
You got to move the cheese.

Speaker 8 (12:05):
Got to move that cheese.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Really, that's tactical.

Speaker 7 (12:08):
It is tactical. Yes, you got it. You can't just
destroy your stomach lining.

Speaker 8 (12:16):
But you know, you gotta have some soft cheeses, like
the real dippable ones.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
I always have like a cream cheese with like some
kind of like spicy berry puree on top.

Speaker 8 (12:26):
So you got to keep it like soft soft, and
then you got the hard cheeses, and.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Like the stinky cheeses like a Camembert. You mean like
you're talking like a little bree or you mean like
not even softer like a cream cheese. Grandma, coming over,
What are we worried about here? How soft like a
cream cheese? Cream cheese?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Well, literally like put like a cream cheese like Philadelphia
cream cheese.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
You literally can do that with Like I have this
thing called I can't remember what it's called, but it
is like a spicy blueberry actually BlackBerry pure, and you
put it over the top of the cream cheese and
it's hot but it's sweet. And then you put that
over top of the cream cheese and it just like

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kind of kicks your ass, but you cannot stop eating it.
So it's like it's this secret weapon on the charcouterie
board too, because it almost replaces the need to.

Speaker 8 (13:21):
Have like a fig jam too. So I mean you
can put that on there. I know I do too.
I like to always have that on there as well,
But it replaces Jim Girl, I really am.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
Then you get some nuts, get some pistachios, all that
in addition all the cheeses we're assuming the cheesests I
never knew. And then we've got the meats and the cheeses.
That's understood. But then you also have to have a couplets,
a couple of cirkands.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
A couple's right there is what that is?

Speaker 8 (14:01):
Am I missing anything?

Speaker 6 (14:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Well, I you. I mean you've got a lot of variety.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
But I think that that is the night before Thanksgiving?
I mean that is that is not a light bite,
is my point. That's a girl dinner, is what that is.
Sometimes I do that on a Friday. Yeah, oh this
cracker and that's the hilarious thing is but oh these
are gluten free cracker, Like, just have the gluten, don't
worry about it. You are you are putting so much
salty meat into your belly right now.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
And you're not leaving the house.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
Well, at any rate, back to the actual travel of Thanksgiving,
h it sounds like things are headed in the right direction.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
And that's great news.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
It really is.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Are they so they're gonna stop canceling thirty flights a day?

Speaker 7 (14:39):
Yeah? I've had a ton of family traveling lately, and
I was surprised every single one of them.

Speaker 8 (14:44):
I would check in, I'd be like, how was your flight?
What happened?

Speaker 7 (14:47):
Did you get yeah, you know, did you get slammed?
Did you get held up? So far, I have not
heard a single horror story. And I expected, especially this week.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's gonna there.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
There are gonna be problems this week regardless, because it's
just that time of year. So even if things weren't
screwed up from the federal perspective and the budget and
all that crap, yeah, they're going to have Thanksgiving holiday
travel related issues. And I always kind of ask you guys, like,
is it do you think we are crazier now because

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of social media and everybody's in fight or flight constantly
and more interactions are happening, or does do people just
have phones now and we record all of these incidents
They've always happened. People have always been crashing out and
you know, no pun intended on planes, and we just
never documented it before.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
I think it's that just because there's been even so
many instances in music history where I will watch a
documentary and see like where I would have been unaware
that something even in music was happening the entire time.
I feel like the Devo stuff, uh huh.

Speaker 8 (16:02):
I'm trying to think of like a good example.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Oh yeah, we're like you're looking back in time and
then you're seeing like, oh, it was so tumultuous back then.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
We think of even now like political climate where you know,
you're watching being.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
Like, oh my god, there's so much going on. It
feels like no one's paying attention. Yeah, and then you.

Speaker 7 (16:17):
Watch from Devo's perspective, they're you know, they're talking about
you know, the Ohio Campus, Kent State, Kent State. It
just you know, they're like, how how could this have happened?
And then the next day everybody acted like everything was normal.
No one's paying attention. And so again from their perspective,
going like, no, this has always been we're constantly inundated

(16:37):
and life keeps going back to normal, and how is
nobody paying attention? So that's where I go, oh no,
it's always been like this. We have more of a
mirror on ourselves now because we have these you know,
turn the camera around.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
You know what else gives you that same perspective as
there's a new documentary on Netflix right now, Yoko. It's
johnn and Yoko rue to One, which was like the
only concert, full concert post Beatles that he did was
this like benefit and he really got sucked into the
left wing sort of radical movement of that time. And

(17:14):
you see how crazy all that stuff was. We hear
about it constantly, you know, from JFK to MLK to
Bobby Kennedy and George Wallace and all these assassinations happening
that time in our country, which was fifty plus years ago,
just as crazy as everything that's going on today. It
is cyclical. But when you're not in it and you

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look back in the history book, it always seems like, oh, yeah,
that was that was a blip, But it couldn't have
been like now, right. You think people weren't crashing out
on planes back then, people weren't freaking out on each
other over you know, what seat they had or how
long they had to wait. I don't know, though, you know,
air travel was so relatively new back then, maybe people
were too afraid to do it. Then we could under

(17:57):
this airport are going to lose it exactly. But that
John and Yoko documentary is pretty cool. It's worth watching
because they recorded a ton of phone calls from their
apartment because they were afraid they were being wiretapped. They were,
and they would have proof against the government if they
ever tried to manipulate some of the calls coming out

(18:20):
of their house.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
So they have all these phone calls and they run them.
It's all about the first year in New York City
for them. But you just see also how easily manipulatable
they were because John, especially because he just wanted to
be doing the right thing, and then all these people
kind of prey on them, and they get to the
point where like this group they're supporting, like all of

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a sudden wants to do this like radical violence at
the Republican National Convention in Miami. And He's like violence,
what are you talking about? Like, that's I'm John, She's
Yoko were the piece people like remember the whole Bedden thing. Yeah,
it's and they have like these phone calls about it.

(19:03):
It's really interesting.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
Wow, I mean they had kind of reason to be paranoid.
What is that on the documentary?

Speaker 8 (19:09):
To yours?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I said, Netflix, But it's HBO. It's actually it's actually HBO.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
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Speaker 6 (20:15):
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Speaker 10 (20:25):
Tripp Sports is up brought to you by Bridgeville applies
to the story in the aftermath of Steelers thirty four
Bengals twelve is Aaron Rodgers' health status. But what got
the Steelers a w against the Bengals was the defense.

Speaker 11 (20:39):
I just thought as a collective Weather's front secondary linebackers,
I just think we were more solid. I think we
were more connected. I thought we communicated. Well, it's not
necessarily about what it is that they do. It's about
the quality of what we do. And I thought we
were just above the line and so many of the
intangible areas today it allowed us to play.

Speaker 10 (20:58):
And that remained the case even after Jalen Ramsey was
ejected for picking up a second personal weed get to that,
throwing a punch at Jamar Chase. Ramsey's contention afterward was
the Chase spit on him, and there is video evidence
to corroborate that. Chase said he did not spin on him.
The referee and crew did not see it, so it

(21:19):
wasn't called. So Ramsey's the guy that got thrown out.
Mike Tomin did not seem all that upset about it
when he addressed it in his remarks. Obviously, you don't
want your good players getting thrown out of the game,
and you want them to finish. But Tomin seemed very
understanding of it because they won.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
I mean, it's like when Joey Porter got kicked out
in Cleveland, the William Green fight that all of a
sudden started, right, had that cost them that game? Well,
then different situation, right well?

Speaker 10 (21:51):
And I think another part of that is there are
similar players in that Ramsey's the guy. Remember Andy Widel's
assessment in August Violet and Vicious. He knows the line though, Yeah,
but you know everyone's why going to go over now.
Charlie and I talked about this with a lot of
people on the postgame show. I'm understanding of it. Charlie
is adamant that you just don't accept that. You don't

(22:12):
let a guy spin on you, that you do what
you gotta do in that instance.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Your understanding of it, what do you mean, like you,
I'm not down on him.

Speaker 10 (22:19):
I wish he didn't wouldn't have done it, Okay, so
but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna kill him for it.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
And Charlie's like, no, no, no, you know you don't
put hands on.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
Don't take that and that's that's that, and it's just
it's not negotiable. You know, you hope that doesn't happen
in an NFC championship game.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
Well, it's gonna cost Jamar a game. He's going to
be The NFL is going to act on this. They
do have spit rules, yes, and they have the videos.
If you don't swallow in the NFL, they, like I say,
they put you out for at least one game.

Speaker 10 (22:57):
Now, if Chase would also got the gate, then fine
with it. In the course of the end, because you
lose one of your really good players, they lose one
of their really good players.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
It's an even trade off.

Speaker 10 (23:06):
It did put the Steelers in a tougher spot, but
they handled it. Their Their defensive performance was what kind
of everybody's been waiting on all year that Cincinnati. Say
what you will about the Bengals and their record and
how good a team they are, that offense has spent
the last month tearing people apart ever since s Lacko

(23:27):
got there, and Jamar Chase ten targets, three catches, thirty
receiving yards, long gain of sixteen and they didn't even
do anything special to shut them down. After the twenty
three targets, sixteen catch, one hundred and sixty one yard
performance in Cincinnati. They played their stuff when he was

(23:48):
in the slot, and Eccles had him when he was
outside on Porter side. Porter had him when he was
outside on Pierre's side, Pierre Adam and they just played.
They just ran their stuff and were very effective doing
it so well.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Since Flacco got there, they were the number one offense
in the league. He threw for four hundred and seventy
yards last week.

Speaker 10 (24:06):
We saw it against Pittsburgh the first time. I mean
veteran guys, smart guys still got a good arm. Elite
wideouts Joe Flacco. Yesterday it was twenty three or forty
for a buck ninety nine to one touchdown. One interception
is passer rating sixty eight points. Should have been sick.
Two interceptions by Dugger, Yeah, you know, I don't know.
The first one was a drop pick six Peyton wilsonbody

(24:28):
got a hand in there because they kind of had
him bracketed. I think it was Higgins, And I don't
know if Dugger dropped it just on his own merit
or if he had a little help. But the pick
six was certainly timely and that defensive performance. Yeah, that's
that's what it was supposed to look like. Splash and
low scoring. Now the two defensive touchdowns are a cherry

(24:52):
on top of the Sunday. But that offense has been
killing people.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
The fact that after they lost ram after slays out
Echles is limping and defensively they are limited and you
got Chuck Clark back there. The fact that that resulted
in a James Pierre. By the way, James Pierre always
makes plays. I'm not saying he's good down to down,
but he seems to make some big plays. He had

(25:19):
a couple of big breakups yesterday.

Speaker 10 (25:21):
Play made on the deep post to Jamar Hut textbook,
that's how you play corner beautiful against as good a
receiver as there is.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Think he was his opposite hand, left hand up in
the air like.

Speaker 10 (25:31):
He was no penalty time right ran with him. Well,
I don't know where Ramsey was on that play. He
used the free safety. He was out to lunch on
that one. But yeah, they got great play from Pierre.
They mentioned Gay Weell coming in for Warren. I mean
Mason Rudolph came in for Aaron Rodgers at halftime a
wound up going twelve for sixteen for a buck twenty seven,

(25:52):
one touchdown, no interceptions. His passer rating was one to
eighteen point five. Rudolph able to come in and do
what needed to be done because he was ready once
he got fingered.

Speaker 12 (26:03):
Well, I mean I saw what you guys saw, which
was he kind of go down and gingerly a little bit.
But I wouldn't sure severity, and I'm still really not
sure either. So we talked in the locker room and
he told me he kind of he gave him the
finger and said you're going not the bad and said
you're going in. And so we you know, appreciate Arthur

(26:25):
Smith and and Tom working with me to kind of
get to the stuff that I liked in the game plan,
and Taylor to kind of my favorite.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
I mean, that would be hilarious if that's how he
let people know they were going in the game.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
He gave me the finger. Hey, these guys good and steady.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
He was steady, gang Wells, handsome, he's got bravado.

Speaker 8 (26:51):
That mustache says trust my cheese.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Mall have been proud of absolutely. He's the Freddie Mercury
of quarterbacks.

Speaker 10 (26:57):
We all know that, so the Steelers still maintaining there
one game lead. In the AFC North, the Ravens got
thirteen fourth quarter points to beat the Browns twenty three
to sixteen. Should Sanders forced into the game and in
the second half due to a head injury sustained by
Dylan Gabriel. I had a chance to watch that game
while we're doing the postgame show. Shardre Sanders is horrible,

(27:20):
has no idea what he's doing. Same thing he did
in Colorado, run backwards when there's pressure and throw it wildly.
Only he's not thrown to the Heisman Trophy winner against Tulsa.
This time he took two sacks that probably lost them.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Between the two plays forty five yards. It slink. He
just runs backward. You can't do that, you know what.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
That's the one thing I would say that at his
accuracy is all over.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
I mean he had a guy opening the end zone
for a touchdown that would have tied the game with
a minute or so left.

Speaker 10 (27:53):
Oh the fump Stefansk guy go for two there, just
because if my quarterbacks you have to go there. Yeah,
we're not doing anything in overtime.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Some run some kind of wildcat yeah, they would.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
Speaking of which, did you see the play that the
Ravens ran out of the tush push with Andrews behind
center that he ran for the touchdown that when I
missed they line up like for a tush push, and
Andrews takes the snap and rolls out wide open up
like bootlegs and around the right side thirty yard touchdown run.

(28:24):
And as I watch it, I thought, yeah, I'm like,
I am so glad they ran that against the Browns. Like,
to me, that was the victory. It's because that play
was unstoppable. It was against Like, I'm so glad you
wasted it against the Browns one of the games I
guess it didn't. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine as long
as it doesn't, you know, beat the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Yeah, no, I mean they're not anything there.

Speaker 8 (28:48):
The Steelers in the Ravens are the same like a
lot of teams. They can win, they can lose.

Speaker 10 (28:53):
People looking at the schedule thing, oh my god, they
gotta play Boltemore's Baltimore's got to play Pittsburgh twice.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, that to be fair. That Brown's defense is good.

Speaker 10 (29:03):
Yeah, and the offenses they're the inverse Bengals. If you
have the Bengals offense in the Brown's defense, you'd probably
win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
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Speaker 7 (29:12):
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Speaker 6 (29:16):
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of Steelers talk for you the Steelers at six and
four now after yesterday's thirty four to twelve win over
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Speaker 4 (29:37):
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Speaker 3 (30:07):
Email back to pass looking throws out to the right
flat at is complete to Noah fan and fit to
hands around the ball which still lost it.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
It's picked up by Pierre.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Pierre racing down on the left sideline, summersaults into the
end zone. Had a second defensive touchdown for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
You know, I if I were the Bengals, I might
have looked at that again.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
That was it was close. It was real close.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Fan did it looked like it did look like the
ball started to move before his knee hit.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
But I'm I mean, just bear, just buy a horse hair.
You know. All I know is that hit the oases
I did.

Speaker 8 (30:47):
Here's the thing, Abby, I want the Steelers to do well.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
But like the text between me and Mike during the game,
where like if I hit a prop, I'm like, just
like all caps texts to him, I'm.

Speaker 10 (30:59):
Like, mother, Yeah, well we do a little pregame, you know, Yeah,
And I did love I didn't love you where you
landed pregame.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
But boy it all ended up working out, didn't I know?
Mike's a winner.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
So was our next guest, Tim Benz, brought to you
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Speaker 4 (31:18):
It was the story of the backups yesterday.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
But what was the difference in your mind, Tim, between
the first time these two teams met and yesterday at
Akroshuer Stadium.

Speaker 13 (31:29):
Well, one difference that I noticed. And by the way,
I was not a winner yesterday because I had the
Pat Bryer moot prop because silly me, I thought they'd
throw to the guy who skewers the Bengals every single
time he plays, and so I lost out on that one.
But on the positive side, I thought one thing that
they did better this time defensively was not overreact when

(31:53):
Chase Brown popped a few runs. Mike Tomlin after the
first game against Cincinnati just couldn't stopped talking about how
we had to get out of our defense because Chase
Brown had a couple of big runs and then they
started making him the focal point of their defensive attack
as opposed as to superstar wide receivers, and you saw

(32:13):
what happened. I asked Patrick Queen about that in the
locker room following the game, because again Chase Brown unfortunately
had a couple of big runs and at least one
big catch. And his response was, you know, plays happened,
and we learned that not every time something happens against
us we have to react. Sometimes it's football and somebody

(32:34):
just makes it play. And I thought there was real
value to that answer. And I thought there was real
there's real value to that approach as well from the
Steelers defense.

Speaker 10 (32:43):
Yeah, to your point, Tim, Terrell Austin even said he
changed the way he was calling the game the last time.

Speaker 13 (32:49):
Right, Yeah, they both Tomlin, it was awesome too.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
So it was the tale of backups yesterday getting it done.
And you know Mike Tomlin, his favorite Tomlin is in
the standard is the standard next man up that really
delivered yesterday, not just with Mason Rudolph, but Kenneth Gainwell,
who they rely on even when Jalen Warren is healthy,
but he became the lone guy along with Caleb Johnson

(33:14):
spelling him for five carries yesterday. James Pierre defensively getting
it done after the injury to Slay, and of course
Mason doing Mason things yesterday. I said earlier, Tim, I
thought the offense looked a lot better, getting pretty much
the same result with Mason.

Speaker 13 (33:32):
Yeah, I thought that actually his numbers could have looked
better too, if it weren't for the OPI on DK Metcalf.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
But I don't know.

Speaker 13 (33:39):
When DK Metcalf crapped in the corn flakes of that officiating.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, how about they.

Speaker 13 (33:43):
Were out looking for him and they also got him
on the deep ball. I did not. Here's another bet
I did not have at halftime score sixteen to nothing,
sixteen to ten combined teams go it's with ten penalty
flags staying within the spread. So good job out of

(34:04):
Bill as the referees recovering at halftime. That was a
little much, and they looked flag happy throughout. But now
I thought Mason was quite good. I thought that they
were smart in their offensive approach. They seem to run
a lot of clearouts underneath. They got the attention in
the eyes of the secondary of the Bengals deep, and

(34:25):
they ran Dk underneath, They ran Washington underneath. And this
whole conversation about Jalen Warren and what he can do
on third downs, I stand by that, and I feel
like I said at once, I said it fifty times.
None of it was the smirching Kenneth Gainwell like him
as a player, loved him as an acquisition, and you know,
the two best games he's had or when he's had

(34:47):
the opportunity to be the first and second down back too,
not only yesterday but in Dublin as well. So I
think there's something to that, and I think it underscores
my stance that when Warren is healthy, the way to
spell Warren is not taking Warren off the field on
third down.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Agreed, It's giving gain.

Speaker 13 (35:06):
Well a full series or two every now and then.
It's not about playing shuttle back. It's about, Okay, Warren
needs a break. He just had two series. Put Gainwell
in for one, and you probably don't lose out in
terms of production.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Yeah, that one third down run where they brought Gainwell
and I think it was in the first quarter and
he failed to make the line of game there. Warren
had been running over people, making people miss there. I'm
not sure why you spell him in the middle of
that series.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
And I still don't get game Well between the tackles.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
No, he's better at it than I thought he was
gonna be, but he's not better than Warren at it.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
No, right, right? If you're gonna run it there.

Speaker 10 (35:43):
Or you know, tosses or whatever, get him on the perimeter,
let him use his vision and his quick so all that.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I get that, but yeah, I'm not a big fan.
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
He had one that he picked up yesterday like left handed,
almost picked it off the ground and then ended up
running for a first down. That was just remarkable. Both
both he and Warren were great yesterday. When Warren was
was healthy. Caleb Johnson always like he shows a little
bit of flash and he looked like, oh, maybe maybe
here's where.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
He's gonna get it. And then he grabs a guy's
face mask as he's running around the if you are
starting to see it finally.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
Yes, it does like he has the trajectory of Roman Wilson,
maybe a little bit better, like maybe there's something there.

Speaker 13 (36:27):
But yeah, at least they're putting him on the field
because they didn't even put Roman Wilson on the field
during his rookie year. So at least he's getting the
occasional snap. And I didn't talk about Pierre. You were
right to raise Pierre's name too, and you mentioned those
standards of the standard thing. He's actually risen the standard
at cornerback as opposed to what was being played there
by Sleigh. So uh yeah, he was good. I thought

(36:48):
you guys described it well in sports when he made
that great play down the field on Chase and the
two the two big defensive touchdowns. Give credit to the
up front on the pick six for Doug or two
like that was another play where they used the three
outside linebacker look and it paid off. They should do
it more often. They had TJ. Watt and Nick Herbig

(37:13):
rushing from the left side of the formation. They had
Sawyer up top and the defensive the defensive view on
the right side of the formation, and her Big looped
around Watt to a vacated hole in the second the
offensive line and just streaked right through gotten flackless face.
What occupied two guys? I love that three linebacker look,

(37:33):
regardless of which three it is. It worked out forced
to throw and Dugger did the rest.

Speaker 6 (37:38):
How concerned are you going forward here heading to Chicago?
Should Aaron Rodgers not be available, Will Howard would then
be one heart beat away from the presidency.

Speaker 13 (37:50):
I'm plenty fine with Will Howard continuing to be the
president pro tem. I don't need to see an accelerator.
Will Howard program here. I'm all right with the government shown.
We do not need to keep moving. Will Howard up
the depth chart. I know there will be some clamor
for that, there will be some discussion to that. Mason
was fine yesterday. I think whatever does or doesn't happen

(38:11):
in Chicago based on their horrid history at Soldier Field
will happen, whether it's Rogers or Mason. I don't think
we need to press the fast forward button on Will
Howard Just go forward with Mason Rudolph if Rogers can't go.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
Tim Benz brought to you by Don's Appliances, where Pittsburgh
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Speaker 4 (38:32):
Thanks Benzi.

Speaker 13 (38:34):
Oh you got it, guys.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
We'll see hm. Abby's got your news when we return.

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Speaker 16 (39:31):
The Steelers defeated the Bengal Sunday at Akroshuer Stadium thirty
four to twelve in a game that the Black and
Gold desperately needed to win. The defense certainly stole the
show for the Steelers yesterday, as they provided plenty of splash,
not only turning the Sinci offense over twice in the game,
but also taking each of those turnovers into the end
zone themselves for touchdowns. The first game from a Kyle
Duger pick six in the third quarter that gave the

(39:51):
Steelers a double digit twenty to nine lead, and the
second defensive touchdown came courtesy of a scoop and score
by James Pierre in the game's fourth quarter. Speaking Steelers
quarterback Aaron Rodgers was forced to leave the game at
halftime with a wrist injury, leading to Mason Rudolph coming
into the game and navigating the Steelers offense on a
few scoring drives to help get the win. It is
believed Rodgers has a minor fracture in his left wrist

(40:13):
and the team will know more about the severity of
the injury as well as the length of his potential
absence later today. Up next for the Steelers, who improved
to six and four with the win, as a trip
to Chicago to take on the Bears.

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