November 17, 2025 • 39 mins
Gerry Dulac thinks the defense is hitting its stride after scoring two defensive touchdowns against the Bengals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Shops for appliances.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is WDV Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
To get to snap back under pressure, down he goes,
he is sacked by Nick Herbig back at the twenty
five yard line.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Oh yeah, huge sack from Nick Herbig, who had a
great game yesterday. And I believe that knocked them out
of that put them back and made himself for a
fuel goal on that one, if I'm correct, I think
was that a third quarter sack? Was that earlier in
the game. I'm confusing everything now, but I'm pretty sure
it was. At any rate, it was a big sack.
(00:41):
Herbig looked good. We like Herbig.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Will Heismith be back next week? Who knows? Remains to
be seen. Big weekend for you here, it's the DV
Morning Show.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Big weekend in Pittsburgh because not only was there the
Bengals Steelers game yesterday, but college game Day came down
to the North Shore.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Abby saw videos of this. It was so much.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It was all Pat McAfee, red face, screaming, insplosion. See
when he walked into the to the I think it
was when he walked into the game, someone handed him
a beer and he cracked it and shugged it to television,
and I'm like, see, Lou Holtz never did that.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
What he forgot to do.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
This is why Pat resonates with the people, and Rhys
Davis gave him the introduction over on the North Shore
and Pat did a wonderful look at us here in Pittsburgh.
Open to ESPN's College Game Day broadcast McAfee.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Everybody. I think I can.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Say this because I was born and raised in the
East Hills of this city, in Plumboro, Pennsylvania, where the
baller's ball and the players playing we're all Mustangs here
and shout out to them.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Welcome to beautiful Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
People.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Now, when you hear the word Pittsburgh, there's probably numerous
things that come to your mind.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Certainly one of them.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Has to be that this is a tough people time. Okay,
that's because we're a blue collar town, and everybody knows
that we birth basically every other city with the steel
that we created here. But right over our shoulders here
is the Alleghany River, and then on the other side
over there is the Benonga Halo.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
They come together to form the Ohio River, which is
the point and.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
The most beautiful, picturesque thing in the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I will say it's the.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Alleghany and the Mononga Halo come together for the Ohio River.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
We birthed Ohio too.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
You're welcome for that in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. But you also
think to yourself, well, that's a damn good sports town.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
And you'd be right.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Now, it's not just a sports town.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Even though we got the history in abundance.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We even have baseball history. Paul Skeins just want to
say young, he's the best player in baseball. That's it.
And although the team might be obsolete.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah that tea yeah, wow, yeah, what's going on with that?
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Well, what's going on with the pirates is they don't
spend any money, so they never actually win, you see.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And we got Paul Stein, so we would like to
go on at historic run at PNC Park, the most
beautiful ballpark in all of them.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Now, I gotta say, so, how long was that? Yeah? Oh,
he's not even halfway done, but that was two minutes?
Does he get around and mentioning pity?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Well, they talk a little more base the Notre Dame game, right, Yeah,
they talk a little more baseball, and there was a
sell the team Yeah, the banner being flown around.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
On the prop plane.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, so nutting was just taken strays yesterday and I
loved it. But the funny thing was is that Pat
was talking about how beautiful it is.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
And look, we were all here on Saturday. You saw it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You saw what the weather was like. It was brown,
it was it was brown outside. It was a full
brown out. Looked like a Civil War photo on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You can air and right colorize.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
Yes, I feel like I feel like the Game Day
camera like would have panned to the right and just
seen a farmer with hogs like that.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
That's just what it seems like it would have.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
It would have been like, that's what that's the vibe
we were giving off on National TV. Yeah, just a
hog farmer with a load of tobacco, just wondering what
the big deal was.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It was not like southern California or Miami. It was
most decidedly western Pennsylvania in November.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
No one knew how to dress that day. It looked
freezing out but it was like sixty six degrees. So
everyone's wearing like parkoes but like tying them around their waists.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Right and everything. It was just bad, bad, look go around.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So I mean, I also don't know if it was
because of the way they set game day up, but
it didn't look like there are as many people that
they usually draw off for game day on college campuses.
And I'm guessing there were a lot of people down
there who went and they saw how it was set
up and you could only get so many people in
(05:21):
that area, and they went, well, f it, We'll go
over to Tequila Cowboy, you know what I mean, right,
because what it was like right in front of like
the Al Dean's Bar used to be Vetice's.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Like that's in that little kind of area between the
mister Rogers studio and uh and the Veterans Bridge and
uh yeah, they had to pack in like half of it,
and they were ship they were just let's be honest too.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Our rivers aren't picturesque rivers. They're they're they're they're.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Little chocolatey yeah this time of years. Yeah, not that
they're ever like Caribbean blue, right right exactly. So yeah,
some people say let's get the river in there. I'm
saying that pan over, get some foliage. What foliage is left,
Let's get that dude, coward didn't open for it.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Did you hear this?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
It was? I know this is like propaganda, but I
love when they do these kinds of open because they're
using all these beautiful drone shots of Pittsburgh. This was
a much more flattering look at the Pittsburgh landscape than
the actual live footage was.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
We'ren here. You want our football players to be stronger
than steel. Roun here right off the bat, with a temper.
Speaker 8 (06:27):
That burns hotter than cold cold quarterback that's gone off
as unstoppable as a river, No, make that three rivers,
or from Friday night lights to Saturday high noon to
Monday night football. This is where the steel curtains surrounds
the NFL. From me and Joe Green, Terry Bradshaw and
(06:52):
Frank o'harris still not mentioned really to Jerome Bennis, Ben Roethlisberger,
Heines Warn and Troy.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Palm Off, none of whom me up the hill on Forbes.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
Just renoo and later the sticky fingers of Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh for bet, he's a double coverage. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
You can't stop that, the wrecking ball Aaron Donald and
the cancer stopping cleats of James Connor.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
All Right, so yeah, then they get into the pit thing.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I think Cowers a strange choice for this one because
is he associated with Pittsburgh. Yes, but let's be honest,
like he's just like I love Pittsburgh. Everything about Pittsburgh.
The people are great, everything's great. And the second I
wasn't financially obligated to be here, I moved to North
Carolina as soon as my contract is out.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You people are crazy. I can't see why anyone stays here.
I currently live in Manhattan. Not a lot of pit talk,
which was weird, and then showed why when they got
smacked by Notre Dame. Unfortunately, but their coach didn't do
any favors leading up to that game with their dowsy
going hey, we could lose one hundred and ten to nothing,
(08:15):
and who cares, right, Well, okay, you did give them ten.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
They almost got half a hundred, so probably could have
effectually were interested in that.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Not an outstanding performance by the pitt Panthers on Saturday.
That was a bad football game.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
A couple of drops on the first possession picked six
and they had a touchdown sound got overturned.
Speaker 10 (08:33):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Heinzel had what's his name, and he dropped it, and
what was the attendance, Like, was it a sellout? He
was a sellout, Okay, so that's probably rare territory for
Pit two.
Speaker 11 (08:45):
It was.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I mean, we looked at ticket prices on Friday and
it was two hundred bucks to get good seats and
you can sit up in the five hundreds for like
one hundred and fifty or something like that.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
That's still doing pretty good.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
No, yeah, they look there was a big demand for
that game, but I felt like it was mostly Notre Dame.
My friends who were there said they were sickened by
all the Notre Dame chains that kind of dominated.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
The h That's why it was a solo. Yeah, exactly, Mike.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I know you didn't watch this, but Jeff Conkle, who's
sitting in with us this morning, he and I both
saw the debut of the new Ken Burns documentary, The
American Revolution, And you know, Jeff, I love anything that
ken Burns does.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I could watch just about anything that he has.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Peter Coyote narrate, you put some soft violin music, Peter
Coyote starts talking. I'm in I'm transfixed. I'm not even
looking at my phone. I am just staring at it,
and I don't know what it is, but it lures
me in and I feel like I'm a part of
the world that he's talking about. I love ken Burns,
and then I love that someone in his life finally
told him he needs to change his haircut.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
He for years had bangs as a man.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Well, you can't have bangs as a fifty five year
old man and be taken seriously. So someone said, comb
your hair, get your natural hair color, quit the Grecian
formula or the shoe polish or whatever you got going
on in there, and be taken seriously. We had a long,
long weekend and we had to drive up to and
back from Penn State with my kids and in laws
(10:12):
last night, and the second that we got home, I
made my children go downstairs and watch the first hour
of the ken Burns documentary. I feel like, you know,
I feel like there's a lot of history that just
that they don't care about, Like kids don't know. I
mean not that you when you're in fourth grade, you
don't care about history. But I'm trying to make them
do it. And the way that they started muskets firing cannonballs,
(10:33):
they immediately I've never seen them be quiet for an
hour and like not have to fidget around or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
It did hold their attention.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Now, when they started talking about the implications of the
agrarian Southern farming system and its relationship with French taxation systems,
then they got a little antsy, but generally speaking it
held their attention.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I was surprised at the British General Pitt Cairn hated colonists.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I'm like, aimed a place after me.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Well, there's a lot of people like like Braddock was
a famous loser, like he he lost, but they you know,
every everything is named after Braddock and you know, so
that's that's you start realizing how many names get the
peppered around there that that.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
You McAfee didn't even bring that up. Yeah, right, yeah,
where's his sense of history?
Speaker 11 (11:19):
Right?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Cowaren said nothing about there is nothing about Pitt Cairen
or Braddock or anybody.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
But the funny thing is in most ken Burns documentaries
there is some footage or pictures. At least even in
the Civil War one there are photographs. This is pre everything,
so all you have is paintings and settings.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I mean, I can't recreate this. They could right, they didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So you're sitting there watching the ken Burns effect of
the camera panning over a painting and they're talking and
it somehow I am still in that world. I am
in the painting, and it's not as effective as when,
like the Vietnam One, you're seeing footage and it's really
drawn you in. But this dude is like, here's a
(12:07):
chessboard and it's slowly going across the chess board.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I'm like, I' much in the chessboard. I'm listening.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But don't you think the fact that there are no
hard images of that time allows you to lose yourself
in the narrative of the of the revolution and of
the ideals of it, because there's no there's really no
reality that you can see perceived on it. Like the
best thing that we have from George Washington, if him
as a young man, is like an oil painting, and
(12:33):
so we have to imagine this person. You can you
can fill up that cup because it's empty. I kept
seeing George Washington portraits and I kept thinking, like, it's
just not how I picture him. I know, It's just
he doesn't look like the way in my mind's eye
what he looked like his entirelyy did he looks soft?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yeah, he looks soft. He looks soft. He was kind
of both soft and hard.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, well he was also I forgot that he was
in the British Army, oh very much so, and he
was piss they didn't get him a promotion. So so
really he's just the jaded guy who didn't get paid
and he took it out on the British afterwards.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
But as yes, he's the kirk Flood of patriots.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
He had a lot of locker room material, a lot
a lot of bulletin board material there.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
But that's the interesting thing because I don't know, like
the revolution is the one thing where like my knowledge
of the American Revolution is restricted to schoolhouse.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Rock Man shot her around the world of the revolution. Yeah,
that's about it.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
And when you hear all of these the stamp back
the towns, and I couldn't have told you what those
things are, so to hear them spelled out, it's like,
all right, this is all making sense.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Okay, I see why we were pissed.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
But the big revelation for me from the first episode
of it was the idea that everybody that lived in
this country the colonists, not Native Americans, considered themselves British,
and they loved it. At first, They're like, this is great,
We're part of Britain. Britain kicks ass. And then eventually
they're like, fire Tomlin, you know what I mean. Like
(14:01):
it was, it was that level of schizophrenic. And I
thought one historian was on there, and I thought she
had this great coat quote. She's like, we tend to
sanitize the uh patriots and like what they were impressed
people and every and they were just responding to British tyranny.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
And she was like, let me put it this way, like.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
They had to pay a penny more for paper, and
they started boiling tar and dumping it on people.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
They're like, that's a teeny bit of an overreaction to that.
They're like, you ever have tar boiling hot tar? And
in grade school you'd hear.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
About tar and feathers made it look like a chicken,
third degree skin grafts, and like, I mean, it was horrifying.
They were burning tax collectors houses and like you know, pillaging.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
I mean, it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Neighbors They're doing this in their neighbors, and the tarn
feather part is so funny because I thought the exact
same thing.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
The guy couldn't get out of bed for eight weeks.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I never thought about the fact that it was boiling
tar they were putting on.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
These people are like burning alive, and they're like, now
throw feathers on them. Now, throw feathers on them.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Ha ha, like a chicken.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Were total psychopaths, psychopaths, And it's like Forefathers, that's where
we come from. You want to stage a revolution, you
gotta break a few eggs. Yeah, yeah, real, make somebody
look like a chicken. But apparently you can watch that
whole thing. Yeah, on the PBS apps. That's right. You
guys said you only watched the first episode, but you
can binge, and you can binge it. I don't want
(15:35):
to do that.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
I need to take it in time and digest each
I feel like it's set up like that for you
to take it and and synthesize in your mind and
then go back and watch it the next night.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
When you there's a tall task to watch it five
nights a week. It's like an eight hour thing. I
think when you think of Paul Revere, did you think
of it that he was one of two guys or
was it always in my mind's eye, it was always
just like Paul Revere did it. It was all Paul Revere.
He's the one, you know, the British are coming, The
British are coming. It's like, actually they had two guys
doing the exact same thing.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Yeah, And also like big deal, like how far can
you ride on a horse at night? Like fifteen miles?
It's like it's like if he notified all from Pittsburgh
to Cranberry, Like, wow.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
What a what a service you did? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Really, I don't know if it was that pig of it,
they're probably already there. Yeah, but it's it's great and
you should watch it. And also I never think about
the fact that, like these were dudes are like sitting
there with their neighbors and they're holding muskets and they're like, oh,
this is kind of scary hilarry, and then he's like yeah, yeah,
you know, but you know, I mean, how bad could
it be? And then like a ball of lead goes
through his brain next to you, he's like, ah, yeah,
(16:38):
he's my grocer. You really not like paying for stamps
for that for that to happen.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, the stamp Act. That was another one. I know
the name.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I could not have told you what it was. Yeah,
it was literally they had to have a stamp from
the British like government. This is approved for every single
piece of paper they used the name.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Well, I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
About mailing things. I didn't realize there wasn't a post office.
Don't be embarrassed about that.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Everyone thought that for probably there's like eight people that
don't actually know it. Everybody else is under the same
Great State Offices City of Boston.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
One of the reasons I love it is because it's
steeped in Revolutionary.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Graduation episode one mic. They just depict Boston as full
of psychopaths. Yeah, kind of like now, yes, but they
have the Freedom Trail. Massholes were around since seventeen hundreds.
Somehow they were still wearing red sox hats back then.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
You go on the Freedom Trails paint on the street,
and you go to various points of interest where the
Boston massacre was, and different churches and state houses and whatnot,
and there's bars everywhere, and you just take your own
sweet time and oh there's a two hundred year old cemetery. Yep,
there's a bar. Yeah, there's where the Boston massacre happened.
(17:54):
There's a bar you just kill a whole day, and
that would be fun, learn some history and get looped up.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You can go to the burial site of the first
five people killed by the British.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I mean, that's that's pretty.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
Sam adams grave is it's in an old cemetery obviously,
and his headstone is right by the sidewalk. There's a
sidewalk and a fence like an iron fence, and then
Sam adams Grave And across the street is a bar
with his sign and that says proudly serving Sam Adams,
you know, might be the epicenter of America.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Apparently he was a crappy brewer. Yeah you failed the
brewer that they said in the thing. Yeah, that's wrong.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Maybe somebody took over for him. Obviously, we'll let ken
Burns know when we come back. Mike pursued and more.
On yesterday, Steelers win over the Bengals thirty four to twelve.
Jerry do Lack joining us and Rob came with a
power hour of Steeler talk. Jeff Conkole hanging out with
us this morning, just you know everything that the changes
here on the show with with with. Bill's departure came
(18:56):
so quickly for us. We're just gonna have some friends
sit in with us over the next couple of weeks
and uh yeah, we'll figure.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Out what to do next eventually. But thanks for coming
in today, dude. Yeah, I appreciate. It's Monday, everybody, It's
not Wednesday. Burns will be in tomorrow.
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Speaker 5 (19:37):
This report guy who said, now throw feathers on him.
It was probably like the chocolate peanut butter thing just
Happenstace torture. It was a wagon full of chickens driving
by it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh my god, what did we think of this years ago?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Jez Louise Nathaniel, you are a sicko. You got feathers.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Oh my, Mike's you got a sports day forty Steelers
over the Bengals yesterday at Akroscher Stadium thirty four to twelve.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
Sports I brought to you by Bridgevilleplis and Steelers were
leading the Bengals when Mason Rudolph replaced Aaron Rodgers in
the third quarter yesterday, and as it turned out, they
never trailed.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
So it's not as if Rudolph saved the day.
Speaker 9 (20:18):
But to Mike Tomlin, Rudolph did exactly what the Steelers
expect of him in such situations.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Mason's proven in the past what he showed today.
Speaker 12 (20:29):
That's why we value him as a member of the
collective and appreciative of his play.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Rogers has a left wrist issue.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
According to Adam Schefter, the initial concern was that Rogers
has a quote slight break in his left wrist. According
to Ian Rappaport, Rogers is indicated to people close to
him that he'll be back soon.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
When you're forty one, there's no slight break in your wrist,
like that's just shot.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I think, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
I have a hard time believe even that that's gonna
that's gonna be a minimal injury.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Can't he play with a light cast on it.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
It's got to take snaps. Yeah, slam that ball back up.
They're pretty good when you're over center. Oh oh, running
back Kenneth Gainwell, another backup who took center stage yesterday
and helped lead the Steelers charge.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
They absolutely got what they expected there.
Speaker 12 (21:27):
And again, well, may may play after play for us
winning in the flat and so forth, but a lot
of guys did. I thought our our tight end run
after we've moved in, and Darnell in particular, was was
really good. You gotta be in a throw short and
run long sometimes win conversions in that fashion, flip fields.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
In that fashion, and so there was a lot of
guys that contributed to that.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
Yeah, the tight ends were particularly thrown out Washington. I
think he had the crowd going every time he caught
the ball. People were anticipating a stiff farm or the
bowling ball type of move. Pat Farmer's got one target.
He turned it into a nineteen yard catch and never
went back to him.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I don't understand that I knew what was going on there.
He being told Arthur Smith loves tight ends, does he?
He lives one in newlyninks Washington.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
As for Gainwell, Tomlin and the offensive staff not surprised,
but Mason Rudolph acknowledged he's gotten a real Kenneth Gainwell
education since the two teamed up in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 13 (22:28):
I knew he was a Super Bowl champion last year,
and I knew his name, but I didn't know how versail,
how great of a pass catcher he was. He is
and runs the ball extremely hard, like like Jalen Warren.
But he did a great job today and you know,
the extra effort to get in the end zone that
on that touchdown passing the flat was was huge.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Steelers next play the Bears in Chicago. Ravens beat the Browns,
so there's still just one game behind, but they were
not exactly impressive and beating Cleveland twenty three to sixteen.
Devin Bush had a pick six in that game.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I saw it. Yeah, yeah, not afraid of the dog anymore.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
Baltimore underwhelming, but Cleveland got reduced to Shador Sanders in
the second half at quarterback and he was hideous.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I just can't look.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Dylan Gabriel is not good, but Shadoor Sanders clearly was
exactly what all of the detractors have said about him.
And Kevin Stefanski has been getting absolutely destroyed by the
Browns fan base for not playing Shador Sanders before this point.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Did they feel satisfied that he might know what he's
doing there? Last night, so they watched that. I saw
tweets from somebody last night.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
I forget who, but the tweet was worse, to the
effect of I'm starting to think maybe it wasn't a
conspiracy with Sanders.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yeah. I mean he he has athletic ability, no doubt.
He's taller than Gabriel. So right away.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
He's seeing over the line, and you know, he was
able to hit somebody underneath, and I thought, like, all right,
well that alone makes him look better than Gabriel right there.
I would just use him in a real simple offense.
The problem is he can't read anything, and he turns
around and runs back twenty twenty yards and just seeds
so much grass it's crazy.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
I can't understand why he's not a success. I mean,
the guy was good enough to make Colorado mediocre and
beat nobody again.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, well we might be facing him. Yeah, brat like it.
I like it bears first.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
That's a crazy I think they're seven and three now
after winning yesterday, and they gave up forty two to
Cincinnati on November. The two and their quarterback Caleb Williams.
He will make some plays that make you think, holy cow,
is this guy good? And he will make some plays
that make you think this guy has no idea what
he's doing, all in the same game, which.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Is why what we were talking about earlier, the fundamentals
of defense for the Steelers paying off for them against
somebody like Flacco yesterday. You'd think, if you can just
stay discipline against Caleb Williams, he's gonna gouge you here
or there, but you should be able to stop them
from doing anything significant. Fundamentals, Yeah, keep them in the pocket.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
I think you got a real good shot. It's funny
the way the Steeler season is progressing. You know, Aaron
Rodgers and others have said, don't ride the roller coaster,
don't ride the wave. But at the start of the year,
we thought it was gonna be real good defense and
just good enough offense was the blueprint, right, And then
that kind of flipped to go on, the defense is
really bad, but this offense could be really good with Rogers,
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And now it's kind of flipping back the other way.
I thought Rogers was okay, and his two quarters didn't
didn't reassure me that he was gonna make the Chargers
game a blip and go back to being highly productive.
He wasn't terrible, but he wasn't great. He got one touchdown,
Rudolph got one touchdown. They both should have scored every
(25:58):
time they had the ball.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I have to tell you, like, I think I missed
when that Rogers went out for a second. I don't
know if I was out of the room or what happened,
but when Rudolph was back in there, I didn't notice
like it looked like kind of the same offense pretty
much regardless of who was in there.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Took him right down for a field goal. Yeah, right, kudos.
Speaker 9 (26:17):
But if the defense can do that to Cincinnati, they
should be able.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
To do with the others. I agree.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
We'll have Rob Kin come in with a power hour
of Steeler talk for you in the nine o'clock hour.
Jerry Dulac will join us after the break. This week's WDV,
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Left, Black Gamewell shrugs off a tackle and gets into
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Speaker 4 (27:21):
A five yard touchdown reception from Mason Rudolph or Kenneth Gainwell.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Mason after the game, I.
Speaker 13 (27:28):
Love playing here and this is where I was drafted
and this is home, and yeah, very very special.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, it was all about the backups yesterday, not just
Mason Rudolph, but Kenneth Gainwell, James Pierre, everybody's stepping up.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Jerry Doulac joining us.
Speaker 11 (27:44):
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was the standard? Is there any early word on whether
or not we're going to see number two behind center
(28:04):
Sunday in Chicago, or will Aaron Rodgers revisit a field
he's all too familiar with.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
Yeah, that's being determined this morning. Rand always gonna have
an MRI or an X ray, and they you know,
have to wait for the swelling to go down. That's
why they wait till next day, you know, and then
they'll determine whether there's maybe a fracture in there, maybe
there's some ligament damage. That would be the worst case
scenario I would imagine. But no, I haven't heard anything yet.
(28:35):
But you know, I think what we saw yesterday obviously
it's a it's a little different attack, a little different
plan with maxon roode Off than it is with Aaron Rodgers.
I like that, not necessarily, Yeah, oh yeah. He was
very productive and more probably just as important, if not
more important. He's more efficient in this regard. And then
(28:57):
they converted third downs. He converted five to six, and
three of those were third and eleven or longer. And
so you know they've been having problems converting third downs.
As we all know, it was four of eighteen in
a previous six quarters. So yeah, he came in and
he was very efficient and did a good job. As
he typically does.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
He stands in there a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I think Aaron's been here in the footsteps, realizing that
you know, at his age, he can only take so
many hits. I actually think it's like a double edged
sword with him, because there are times where I think
that the thing he doesn't have that a forty one
year old Brady had is Brady was quick to live
another day if it wasn't there boom balls on the ground.
(29:41):
There are times where Aaron Rodgers I think is trying
to do too much and he can get himself into trouble.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Except a couple of third downs yesterday, he actually lived
to live another series. He threw a couple of checkdowns
that had no chance. I get that sometimes you have
to throw behind the sticks and hope the guy can run.
But there were a couple that the guy was all
over the receiver. You knew even if he caught it,
he wasn't going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
But though that's what he used to not do, I
think his frustration has been evident. You see it in
his body language on the field. The difference with Mason
to me is well, okay, that first drive ended up
with the field goal too, but it seemed like with
his He's not Josh Allen, but you can roll him
out a little bit more and feel comfortable that when
the rush is on the thing that he did great
(30:26):
when we had him come in for those last three
games in the Mitch Trubisky, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph year
was he stood tall when the pressure came in, knowing
that someone was about to get open. I'm wondering if
DK is not missing some opportunities with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 11 (30:43):
Well, I think what you noticed, and your point is
well taken, Randall. I think what you've noticed with the
two of them is that you know, because Aaron Rodgers
is so good at the line of scrimmage, yes, a
lot of what they do was predicated on what he
is doing at the line of scrimmage, whereas that is
not the case with Mason Rudolph. And if you notice,
(31:03):
they play a little bit more up tempo with Mason Rudolph,
and the play is called and they go and try
and execute that play to a point where it actually
could be a little bit more simplistic that way, as
opposed to changing routes, changing assignments, changing blocking schemes, whatever.
Up front, and what is Aaron Rodgers' strength And I'm
(31:25):
not saying it's holding him back, because it's not. But
when all that's not on point, you know, it's not
as effective maybe as Okay, here's the play, let's go
out and execute it. This is what's designed, let's go
do it.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
And that's kind of what was working yesterday Jerry Dulac
with us right now.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Defensively, the Jalen Ramsey situation. You know, when that first happened,
I thought, well, there's Ramsey being Ramsey again. But I
think he was playing up to the line before that.
And once somebody spits on you, well all bets are off.
I'm you know, it seemed like everybody had Jalen Ramsey's
back in the locker room on that one.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
You know, Jalen Ramsey is always playing up to the line.
You know, he's he's just one play away from a
fifteen yard penalty. That's just the nature of who he
is and how he plays. The funny thing is is.
I'm watching them stand there, you know, face mask to
face mask, talking, jawing, whatever they're doing. But it was
they weren't kind of barking at each other as much
(32:25):
as they were just talking to each other. So I'm
watching them through the glasses, you know, and all of
a sudden, I see Ramsey react the way he didn't.
I thought, oh my god, what's that about?
Speaker 12 (32:34):
Right?
Speaker 11 (32:34):
You know, now we know what happened. He claims he
was spit on. After the game, Jamar Chase said he
didn't spit on anybody. There's a video out there that
certainly appears that that was the case, and obviously the
league's going to look into it. But yeah, you know,
back to back on sportsman like that gets you kicked
out of the game, and and you know he had
(32:55):
to be, you know, as I don't know how much
TV showed it or if you were at the game,
Randall saw his teammates repeatedly, several the restraining him and
pulling them away and getting him out of there. And yeah,
he you know, the way he reacted, I think it
was more than Jamar Chase saying something about his mom
or something, you know. So I don't know, but obviously
(33:18):
the league's gonna look into it and we'll see what
the repercussions are. If Jamar Chase did do that, I'm
sure he'll get probably a one game suspension for sure.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Yeah, he was amazing.
Speaker 9 (33:26):
Afterward, I saw a clip posted online Ramsey talking about
how that all occurred and we can't play it because
every third word is a curse. But he was, Yeah,
we were just talking bleep, but I like talking bleep
and that's part of the game, and just normal talking
bleep and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
It escalated.
Speaker 11 (33:47):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's what it looked like, mikel. Like
I said, as I'm watching him, you can see it
wasn't like they were just going back and forth. They
were kind of standing there. He knew they weren't exchanging pleasantries,
but it wasn't anything animated as we see sometimes, so
like it was the previous play. And then, like I said,
he just kind of erupted, and I thought, wow, how
(34:08):
one how stupid not knowing what transpired, and then I thought, well,
he must have said something that had listened that reaction,
and now we know, or at least we think we
know what it was.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Jerry what's going on with Calvin Austin not getting as
many reps as Roman Wilson at number two yesterday?
Speaker 11 (34:26):
Yeah, I don't know. All I can say, and I'll
look into it, but all I can say is the
same thing that happened last week, you know, with Kenneth
Gainwell getting more snaps than Jalen Warren. You know, they
go into a game with certain players for certain packages,
and the assistant coaches are the ones who rotate the
players into the game. Now last week, because they got
(34:48):
behind in the third quarter and then they were going
hurry up in the fourth quarter in LA. You know,
Kenneth Gainwell was in on us, you know, was a
guy before the game designated for some of those packages.
And when they keep running him over and over, you know,
he ends up in the game more than Jaln Warren.
That's not that's not a defense to me. That's it's
(35:08):
a poor excuse because you need to have Jalen Warren
in the game with no knock against Kenny Gamewell. And
I'm sure I'm guessing, I'm guessing probably the same thing
happened again. But Roman Wilson has been he's been, you know,
he's you've noticed him the last three or four games,
and he's been productive for him. So I don't know
that that's it, but that's that's at least maybe some
(35:31):
small explanation for what happened.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Well, I'm looking at it like this going this weekend,
assuming Mason is going to have to play again, Let's
say midway through the second quarter, he sprains his mustache,
he's got to sit down. So then they have Will
Howard comes in. Okay, that's right, the people's champion comes in,
and then the Steelers get get they get the preview
(35:55):
of whether or not they got anything in Will Howard.
This might be a gift in a weird way. He
would be so unprepared to go into a game if
he had to go into a game.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Let's know what the internet says, Mike Twitter believes that
this guy. I know what the internet says. I think the.
Speaker 11 (36:13):
Internet thinks he could. He could take him to the
super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (36:15):
Yeah, we got about three Will Howard calls out of
about twenty five or twenty six that we took last night.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But do you think no, no, no, no, is he ready?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
No?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Would no?
Speaker 11 (36:29):
The reality randall of the situation is they will get
him prepared this week more so than he has h
you know, pending Aaron Rodgers injury, which I don't think
Aaron Rodger are going to play this week. But they
will get him ready as the number two quarterback, unlike
what has the least the last week or so, where
he's just kind of two weeks is where he's running
the scout team. So that that is one byproduct for
(36:51):
this is they will get him more prepared at least
to you know, be the guy who could go see
if something happens to Mason So and I don't know
that mustache is that mustache is looking pretty good. Random.
I can't see it getting injured at all.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
That is true. That is true. It does have girth.
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Speaker 11 (37:15):
You got it right.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
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Speaker 4 (37:18):
Rob King's going to be joining us a power of
Steelers talk. As we look back at the Steelers thirty
four Bengals twelve yesterday, and I look ahead at that
Chicago game and what will end up happening there. You know,
I don't even know why. I wasn't considering him taking snaps.
I'm like, it's his left wrist. Who cares, that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Just put a cast on it.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
You'll be fine. But yeah, that would suck. I mean,
that's probably your nap, you know, just asking for the
exchange to be biffed. You could probably go gun all day,
but I don't think you want to do that now.
We just I mean, severely limit yourself and as good
as he is at play action too, like really losing
a weapon there, all right?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
To get to snap back under pressure, down he goes,
he is sacked by Nick Herbig back at the twenty
five yard line.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Oh yeah, huge sack from Nick Herbig, who had a
great game yesterday. And I believe that knocked them out
of that put them back and made himself for a
fuel goal on that one, if I'm correct, I think
was that a third quarter sack? Was that earlier in
the game. I'm confusing everything now, but I'm pretty sure
it was. At any rate, it was a big sack.
(00:41):
Herbig looked good. We like Herbig.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Will Heismith be back next week? Who knows? Remains to
be seen. Big weekend for you here, it's the DV
Morning Show.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Big weekend in Pittsburgh because not only was there the
Bengals Steelers game yesterday, but college game Day came down
to the North Shore.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Abby saw videos of this. It was so much.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It was all Pat McAfee, red face, screaming, insplosion. See
when he walked into the to the I think it
was when he walked into the game, someone handed him
a beer and he cracked it and shugged it to television,
and I'm like, see, Lou Holtz never did that.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
What he forgot to do.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
This is why Pat resonates with the people, and Rhys
Davis gave him the introduction over on the North Shore
and Pat did a wonderful look at us here in Pittsburgh.
Open to ESPN's College Game Day broadcast McAfee.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Everybody. I think I can.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Say this because I was born and raised in the
East Hills of this city, in Plumboro, Pennsylvania, where the
baller's ball and the players playing we're all Mustangs here
and shout out to them.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Welcome to beautiful Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
People.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Now, when you hear the word Pittsburgh, there's probably numerous
things that come to your mind.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Certainly one of them.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Has to be that this is a tough people time. Okay,
that's because we're a blue collar town, and everybody knows
that we birth basically every other city with the steel
that we created here. But right over our shoulders here
is the Alleghany River, and then on the other side
over there is the Benonga Halo.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
They come together to form the Ohio River, which is
the point and.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
The most beautiful, picturesque thing in the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I will say it's the.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Alleghany and the Mononga Halo come together for the Ohio River.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
We birthed Ohio too.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
You're welcome for that in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. But you also
think to yourself, well, that's a damn good sports town.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
And you'd be right.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Now, it's not just a sports town.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Even though we got the history in abundance.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We even have baseball history. Paul Skeins just want to
say young, he's the best player in baseball. That's it.
And although the team might be obsolete.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah that tea yeah, wow, yeah, what's going on with that?
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Well, what's going on with the pirates is they don't
spend any money, so they never actually win, you see.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And we got Paul Stein, so we would like to
go on at historic run at PNC Park, the most
beautiful ballpark in all of them.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Now, I gotta say, so, how long was that? Yeah? Oh,
he's not even halfway done, but that was two minutes?
Does he get around and mentioning pity?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Well, they talk a little more base the Notre Dame game, right, Yeah,
they talk a little more baseball, and there was a
sell the team Yeah, the banner being flown around.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
On the prop plane.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, so nutting was just taken strays yesterday and I
loved it. But the funny thing was is that Pat
was talking about how beautiful it is.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
And look, we were all here on Saturday. You saw it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You saw what the weather was like. It was brown,
it was it was brown outside. It was a full
brown out. Looked like a Civil War photo on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You can air and right colorize.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
Yes, I feel like I feel like the Game Day
camera like would have panned to the right and just
seen a farmer with hogs like that.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
That's just what it seems like it would have.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
It would have been like, that's what that's the vibe
we were giving off on National TV. Yeah, just a
hog farmer with a load of tobacco, just wondering what
the big deal was.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It was not like southern California or Miami. It was
most decidedly western Pennsylvania in November.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
No one knew how to dress that day. It looked
freezing out but it was like sixty six degrees. So
everyone's wearing like parkoes but like tying them around their waists.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Right and everything. It was just bad, bad, look go around.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So I mean, I also don't know if it was
because of the way they set game day up, but
it didn't look like there are as many people that
they usually draw off for game day on college campuses.
And I'm guessing there were a lot of people down
there who went and they saw how it was set
up and you could only get so many people in
(05:21):
that area, and they went, well, f it, We'll go
over to Tequila Cowboy, you know what I mean, right,
because what it was like right in front of like
the Al Dean's Bar used to be Vetice's.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Like that's in that little kind of area between the
mister Rogers studio and uh and the Veterans Bridge and
uh yeah, they had to pack in like half of it,
and they were ship they were just let's be honest too.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Our rivers aren't picturesque rivers. They're they're they're they're.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Little chocolatey yeah this time of years. Yeah, not that
they're ever like Caribbean blue, right right exactly. So yeah,
some people say let's get the river in there. I'm
saying that pan over, get some foliage. What foliage is left,
Let's get that dude, coward didn't open for it.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Did you hear this?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
It was? I know this is like propaganda, but I
love when they do these kinds of open because they're
using all these beautiful drone shots of Pittsburgh. This was
a much more flattering look at the Pittsburgh landscape than
the actual live footage was.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
We'ren here. You want our football players to be stronger
than steel. Roun here right off the bat, with a temper.
Speaker 8 (06:27):
That burns hotter than cold cold quarterback that's gone off
as unstoppable as a river, No, make that three rivers,
or from Friday night lights to Saturday high noon to
Monday night football. This is where the steel curtains surrounds
the NFL. From me and Joe Green, Terry Bradshaw and
(06:52):
Frank o'harris still not mentioned really to Jerome Bennis, Ben Roethlisberger,
Heines Warn and Troy.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Palm Off, none of whom me up the hill on Forbes.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
Just renoo and later the sticky fingers of Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh for bet, he's a double coverage. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
You can't stop that, the wrecking ball Aaron Donald and
the cancer stopping cleats of James Connor.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
All Right, so yeah, then they get into the pit thing.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I think Cowers a strange choice for this one because
is he associated with Pittsburgh. Yes, but let's be honest,
like he's just like I love Pittsburgh. Everything about Pittsburgh.
The people are great, everything's great. And the second I
wasn't financially obligated to be here, I moved to North
Carolina as soon as my contract is out.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You people are crazy. I can't see why anyone stays here.
I currently live in Manhattan. Not a lot of pit talk,
which was weird, and then showed why when they got
smacked by Notre Dame. Unfortunately, but their coach didn't do
any favors leading up to that game with their dowsy
going hey, we could lose one hundred and ten to nothing,
(08:15):
and who cares, right, Well, okay, you did give them ten.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
They almost got half a hundred, so probably could have
effectually were interested in that.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Not an outstanding performance by the pitt Panthers on Saturday.
That was a bad football game.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
A couple of drops on the first possession picked six
and they had a touchdown sound got overturned.
Speaker 10 (08:33):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Heinzel had what's his name, and he dropped it, and
what was the attendance, Like, was it a sellout? He
was a sellout, Okay, so that's probably rare territory for
Pit two.
Speaker 11 (08:45):
It was.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I mean, we looked at ticket prices on Friday and
it was two hundred bucks to get good seats and
you can sit up in the five hundreds for like
one hundred and fifty or something like that.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
That's still doing pretty good.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
No, yeah, they look there was a big demand for
that game, but I felt like it was mostly Notre Dame.
My friends who were there said they were sickened by
all the Notre Dame chains that kind of dominated.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
The h That's why it was a solo. Yeah, exactly, Mike.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I know you didn't watch this, but Jeff Conkle, who's
sitting in with us this morning, he and I both
saw the debut of the new Ken Burns documentary, The
American Revolution, And you know, Jeff, I love anything that
ken Burns does.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I could watch just about anything that he has.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Peter Coyote narrate, you put some soft violin music, Peter
Coyote starts talking. I'm in I'm transfixed. I'm not even
looking at my phone. I am just staring at it,
and I don't know what it is, but it lures
me in and I feel like I'm a part of
the world that he's talking about. I love ken Burns,
and then I love that someone in his life finally
told him he needs to change his haircut.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
He for years had bangs as a man.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Well, you can't have bangs as a fifty five year
old man and be taken seriously. So someone said, comb
your hair, get your natural hair color, quit the Grecian
formula or the shoe polish or whatever you got going
on in there, and be taken seriously. We had a long,
long weekend and we had to drive up to and
back from Penn State with my kids and in laws
(10:12):
last night, and the second that we got home, I
made my children go downstairs and watch the first hour
of the ken Burns documentary. I feel like, you know,
I feel like there's a lot of history that just
that they don't care about, Like kids don't know. I
mean not that you when you're in fourth grade, you
don't care about history. But I'm trying to make them
do it. And the way that they started muskets firing cannonballs,
(10:33):
they immediately I've never seen them be quiet for an
hour and like not have to fidget around or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
It did hold their attention.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Now, when they started talking about the implications of the
agrarian Southern farming system and its relationship with French taxation systems,
then they got a little antsy, but generally speaking it
held their attention.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I was surprised at the British General Pitt Cairn hated colonists.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I'm like, aimed a place after me.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Well, there's a lot of people like like Braddock was
a famous loser, like he he lost, but they you know,
every everything is named after Braddock and you know, so
that's that's you start realizing how many names get the
peppered around there that that.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
You McAfee didn't even bring that up. Yeah, right, yeah,
where's his sense of history?
Speaker 11 (11:19):
Right?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Cowaren said nothing about there is nothing about Pitt Cairen
or Braddock or anybody.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
But the funny thing is in most ken Burns documentaries
there is some footage or pictures. At least even in
the Civil War one there are photographs. This is pre everything,
so all you have is paintings and settings.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I mean, I can't recreate this. They could right, they didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So you're sitting there watching the ken Burns effect of
the camera panning over a painting and they're talking and
it somehow I am still in that world. I am
in the painting, and it's not as effective as when,
like the Vietnam One, you're seeing footage and it's really
drawn you in. But this dude is like, here's a
(12:07):
chessboard and it's slowly going across the chess board.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I'm like, I' much in the chessboard. I'm listening.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But don't you think the fact that there are no
hard images of that time allows you to lose yourself
in the narrative of the of the revolution and of
the ideals of it, because there's no there's really no
reality that you can see perceived on it. Like the
best thing that we have from George Washington, if him
as a young man, is like an oil painting, and
(12:33):
so we have to imagine this person. You can you
can fill up that cup because it's empty. I kept
seeing George Washington portraits and I kept thinking, like, it's
just not how I picture him. I know, It's just
he doesn't look like the way in my mind's eye
what he looked like his entirelyy did he looks soft?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yeah, he looks soft. He looks soft. He was kind
of both soft and hard.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, well he was also I forgot that he was
in the British Army, oh very much so, and he
was piss they didn't get him a promotion. So so
really he's just the jaded guy who didn't get paid
and he took it out on the British afterwards.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
But as yes, he's the kirk Flood of patriots.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
He had a lot of locker room material, a lot
a lot of bulletin board material there.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
But that's the interesting thing because I don't know, like
the revolution is the one thing where like my knowledge
of the American Revolution is restricted to schoolhouse.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Rock Man shot her around the world of the revolution. Yeah,
that's about it.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
And when you hear all of these the stamp back
the towns, and I couldn't have told you what those
things are, so to hear them spelled out, it's like,
all right, this is all making sense.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Okay, I see why we were pissed.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
But the big revelation for me from the first episode
of it was the idea that everybody that lived in
this country the colonists, not Native Americans, considered themselves British,
and they loved it. At first, They're like, this is great,
We're part of Britain. Britain kicks ass. And then eventually
they're like, fire Tomlin, you know what I mean. Like
(14:01):
it was, it was that level of schizophrenic. And I
thought one historian was on there, and I thought she
had this great coat quote. She's like, we tend to
sanitize the uh patriots and like what they were impressed
people and every and they were just responding to British tyranny.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
And she was like, let me put it this way, like.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
They had to pay a penny more for paper, and
they started boiling tar and dumping it on people.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
They're like, that's a teeny bit of an overreaction to that.
They're like, you ever have tar boiling hot tar? And
in grade school you'd hear.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
About tar and feathers made it look like a chicken,
third degree skin grafts, and like, I mean, it was horrifying.
They were burning tax collectors houses and like you know, pillaging.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
I mean, it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Neighbors They're doing this in their neighbors, and the tarn
feather part is so funny because I thought the exact
same thing.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
The guy couldn't get out of bed for eight weeks.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I never thought about the fact that it was boiling
tar they were putting on.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
These people are like burning alive, and they're like, now
throw feathers on them. Now, throw feathers on them.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Ha ha, like a chicken.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Were total psychopaths, psychopaths, And it's like Forefathers, that's where
we come from. You want to stage a revolution, you
gotta break a few eggs. Yeah, yeah, real, make somebody
look like a chicken. But apparently you can watch that
whole thing. Yeah, on the PBS apps. That's right. You
guys said you only watched the first episode, but you
can binge, and you can binge it. I don't want
(15:35):
to do that.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
I need to take it in time and digest each
I feel like it's set up like that for you
to take it and and synthesize in your mind and
then go back and watch it the next night.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
When you there's a tall task to watch it five
nights a week. It's like an eight hour thing. I
think when you think of Paul Revere, did you think
of it that he was one of two guys or
was it always in my mind's eye, it was always
just like Paul Revere did it. It was all Paul Revere.
He's the one, you know, the British are coming, The
British are coming. It's like, actually they had two guys
doing the exact same thing.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Yeah, And also like big deal, like how far can
you ride on a horse at night? Like fifteen miles?
It's like it's like if he notified all from Pittsburgh
to Cranberry, Like, wow.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
What a what a service you did? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Really, I don't know if it was that pig of it,
they're probably already there. Yeah, but it's it's great and
you should watch it. And also I never think about
the fact that, like these were dudes are like sitting
there with their neighbors and they're holding muskets and they're like, oh,
this is kind of scary hilarry, and then he's like yeah, yeah,
you know, but you know, I mean, how bad could
it be? And then like a ball of lead goes
through his brain next to you, he's like, ah, yeah,
(16:38):
he's my grocer. You really not like paying for stamps
for that for that to happen.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, the stamp Act. That was another one. I know
the name.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I could not have told you what it was. Yeah,
it was literally they had to have a stamp from
the British like government. This is approved for every single
piece of paper they used the name.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Well, I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
About mailing things. I didn't realize there wasn't a post office.
Don't be embarrassed about that.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Everyone thought that for probably there's like eight people that
don't actually know it. Everybody else is under the same
Great State Offices City of Boston.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
One of the reasons I love it is because it's
steeped in Revolutionary.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Graduation episode one mic. They just depict Boston as full
of psychopaths. Yeah, kind of like now, yes, but they
have the Freedom Trail. Massholes were around since seventeen hundreds.
Somehow they were still wearing red sox hats back then.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
You go on the Freedom Trails paint on the street,
and you go to various points of interest where the
Boston massacre was, and different churches and state houses and whatnot,
and there's bars everywhere, and you just take your own
sweet time and oh there's a two hundred year old cemetery. Yep,
there's a bar. Yeah, there's where the Boston massacre happened.
(17:54):
There's a bar you just kill a whole day, and
that would be fun, learn some history and get looped up.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You can go to the burial site of the first
five people killed by the British.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I mean, that's that's pretty.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
Sam adams grave is it's in an old cemetery obviously,
and his headstone is right by the sidewalk. There's a
sidewalk and a fence like an iron fence, and then
Sam adams Grave And across the street is a bar
with his sign and that says proudly serving Sam Adams,
you know, might be the epicenter of America.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Apparently he was a crappy brewer. Yeah you failed the
brewer that they said in the thing. Yeah, that's wrong.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Maybe somebody took over for him. Obviously, we'll let ken
Burns know when we come back. Mike pursued and more.
On yesterday, Steelers win over the Bengals thirty four to twelve.
Jerry do Lack joining us and Rob came with a
power hour of Steeler talk. Jeff Conkole hanging out with
us this morning, just you know everything that the changes
here on the show with with with. Bill's departure came
(18:56):
so quickly for us. We're just gonna have some friends
sit in with us over the next couple of weeks
and uh yeah, we'll figure.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Out what to do next eventually. But thanks for coming
in today, dude. Yeah, I appreciate. It's Monday, everybody, It's
not Wednesday. Burns will be in tomorrow.
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Speaker 5 (19:37):
This report guy who said, now throw feathers on him.
It was probably like the chocolate peanut butter thing just
Happenstace torture. It was a wagon full of chickens driving
by it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh my god, what did we think of this years ago?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Jez Louise Nathaniel, you are a sicko. You got feathers.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Oh my, Mike's you got a sports day forty Steelers
over the Bengals yesterday at Akroscher Stadium thirty four to twelve.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
Sports I brought to you by Bridgevilleplis and Steelers were
leading the Bengals when Mason Rudolph replaced Aaron Rodgers in
the third quarter yesterday, and as it turned out, they
never trailed.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
So it's not as if Rudolph saved the day.
Speaker 9 (20:18):
But to Mike Tomlin, Rudolph did exactly what the Steelers
expect of him in such situations.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Mason's proven in the past what he showed today.
Speaker 12 (20:29):
That's why we value him as a member of the
collective and appreciative of his play.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Rogers has a left wrist issue.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
According to Adam Schefter, the initial concern was that Rogers
has a quote slight break in his left wrist. According
to Ian Rappaport, Rogers is indicated to people close to
him that he'll be back soon.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
When you're forty one, there's no slight break in your wrist,
like that's just shot.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I think, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
I have a hard time believe even that that's gonna
that's gonna be a minimal injury.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Can't he play with a light cast on it.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
It's got to take snaps. Yeah, slam that ball back up.
They're pretty good when you're over center. Oh oh, running
back Kenneth Gainwell, another backup who took center stage yesterday
and helped lead the Steelers charge.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
They absolutely got what they expected there.
Speaker 12 (21:27):
And again, well, may may play after play for us
winning in the flat and so forth, but a lot
of guys did. I thought our our tight end run
after we've moved in, and Darnell in particular, was was
really good. You gotta be in a throw short and
run long sometimes win conversions in that fashion, flip fields.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
In that fashion, and so there was a lot of
guys that contributed to that.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
Yeah, the tight ends were particularly thrown out Washington. I
think he had the crowd going every time he caught
the ball. People were anticipating a stiff farm or the
bowling ball type of move. Pat Farmer's got one target.
He turned it into a nineteen yard catch and never
went back to him.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I don't understand that I knew what was going on there.
He being told Arthur Smith loves tight ends, does he?
He lives one in newlyninks Washington.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
As for Gainwell, Tomlin and the offensive staff not surprised,
but Mason Rudolph acknowledged he's gotten a real Kenneth Gainwell
education since the two teamed up in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 13 (22:28):
I knew he was a Super Bowl champion last year,
and I knew his name, but I didn't know how versail,
how great of a pass catcher he was. He is
and runs the ball extremely hard, like like Jalen Warren.
But he did a great job today and you know,
the extra effort to get in the end zone that
on that touchdown passing the flat was was huge.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Steelers next play the Bears in Chicago. Ravens beat the Browns,
so there's still just one game behind, but they were
not exactly impressive and beating Cleveland twenty three to sixteen.
Devin Bush had a pick six in that game.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I saw it. Yeah, yeah, not afraid of the dog anymore.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
Baltimore underwhelming, but Cleveland got reduced to Shador Sanders in
the second half at quarterback and he was hideous.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I just can't look.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Dylan Gabriel is not good, but Shadoor Sanders clearly was
exactly what all of the detractors have said about him.
And Kevin Stefanski has been getting absolutely destroyed by the
Browns fan base for not playing Shador Sanders before this point.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Did they feel satisfied that he might know what he's
doing there? Last night, so they watched that. I saw
tweets from somebody last night.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
I forget who, but the tweet was worse, to the
effect of I'm starting to think maybe it wasn't a
conspiracy with Sanders.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yeah. I mean he he has athletic ability, no doubt.
He's taller than Gabriel. So right away.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
He's seeing over the line, and you know, he was
able to hit somebody underneath, and I thought, like, all right,
well that alone makes him look better than Gabriel right there.
I would just use him in a real simple offense.
The problem is he can't read anything, and he turns
around and runs back twenty twenty yards and just seeds
so much grass it's crazy.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
I can't understand why he's not a success. I mean,
the guy was good enough to make Colorado mediocre and
beat nobody again.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, well we might be facing him. Yeah, brat like it.
I like it bears first.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
That's a crazy I think they're seven and three now
after winning yesterday, and they gave up forty two to
Cincinnati on November. The two and their quarterback Caleb Williams.
He will make some plays that make you think, holy cow,
is this guy good? And he will make some plays
that make you think this guy has no idea what
he's doing, all in the same game, which.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Is why what we were talking about earlier, the fundamentals
of defense for the Steelers paying off for them against
somebody like Flacco yesterday. You'd think, if you can just
stay discipline against Caleb Williams, he's gonna gouge you here
or there, but you should be able to stop them
from doing anything significant. Fundamentals, Yeah, keep them in the pocket.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
I think you got a real good shot. It's funny
the way the Steeler season is progressing. You know, Aaron
Rodgers and others have said, don't ride the roller coaster,
don't ride the wave. But at the start of the year,
we thought it was gonna be real good defense and
just good enough offense was the blueprint, right, And then
that kind of flipped to go on, the defense is
really bad, but this offense could be really good with Rogers,
(25:38):
And now it's kind of flipping back the other way.
I thought Rogers was okay, and his two quarters didn't
didn't reassure me that he was gonna make the Chargers
game a blip and go back to being highly productive.
He wasn't terrible, but he wasn't great. He got one touchdown,
Rudolph got one touchdown. They both should have scored every
(25:58):
time they had the ball.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I have to tell you, like, I think I missed
when that Rogers went out for a second. I don't
know if I was out of the room or what happened,
but when Rudolph was back in there, I didn't notice
like it looked like kind of the same offense pretty
much regardless of who was in there.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Took him right down for a field goal. Yeah, right, kudos.
Speaker 9 (26:17):
But if the defense can do that to Cincinnati, they
should be able.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
To do with the others. I agree.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
We'll have Rob Kin come in with a power hour
of Steeler talk for you in the nine o'clock hour.
Jerry Dulac will join us after the break. This week's WDV,
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the end zone for a Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
A five yard touchdown reception from Mason Rudolph or Kenneth Gainwell.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Mason after the game, I.
Speaker 13 (27:28):
Love playing here and this is where I was drafted
and this is home, and yeah, very very special.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, it was all about the backups yesterday, not just
Mason Rudolph, but Kenneth Gainwell, James Pierre, everybody's stepping up.
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Jerry Doulac joining us.
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was the standard? Is there any early word on whether
or not we're going to see number two behind center
(28:04):
Sunday in Chicago, or will Aaron Rodgers revisit a field
he's all too familiar with.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
Yeah, that's being determined this morning. Rand always gonna have
an MRI or an X ray, and they you know,
have to wait for the swelling to go down. That's
why they wait till next day, you know, and then
they'll determine whether there's maybe a fracture in there, maybe
there's some ligament damage. That would be the worst case
scenario I would imagine. But no, I haven't heard anything yet.
(28:35):
But you know, I think what we saw yesterday obviously
it's a it's a little different attack, a little different
plan with maxon roode Off than it is with Aaron Rodgers.
I like that, not necessarily, Yeah, oh yeah. He was
very productive and more probably just as important, if not
more important. He's more efficient in this regard. And then
(28:57):
they converted third downs. He converted five to six, and
three of those were third and eleven or longer. And
so you know they've been having problems converting third downs.
As we all know, it was four of eighteen in
a previous six quarters. So yeah, he came in and
he was very efficient and did a good job. As
he typically does.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
He stands in there a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I think Aaron's been here in the footsteps, realizing that
you know, at his age, he can only take so
many hits. I actually think it's like a double edged
sword with him, because there are times where I think
that the thing he doesn't have that a forty one
year old Brady had is Brady was quick to live
another day if it wasn't there boom balls on the ground.
(29:41):
There are times where Aaron Rodgers I think is trying
to do too much and he can get himself into trouble.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Except a couple of third downs yesterday, he actually lived
to live another series. He threw a couple of checkdowns
that had no chance. I get that sometimes you have
to throw behind the sticks and hope the guy can run.
But there were a couple that the guy was all
over the receiver. You knew even if he caught it,
he wasn't going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
But though that's what he used to not do, I
think his frustration has been evident. You see it in
his body language on the field. The difference with Mason
to me is well, okay, that first drive ended up
with the field goal too, but it seemed like with
his He's not Josh Allen, but you can roll him
out a little bit more and feel comfortable that when
the rush is on the thing that he did great
(30:26):
when we had him come in for those last three
games in the Mitch Trubisky, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph year
was he stood tall when the pressure came in, knowing
that someone was about to get open. I'm wondering if
DK is not missing some opportunities with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 11 (30:43):
Well, I think what you noticed, and your point is
well taken, Randall. I think what you've noticed with the
two of them is that you know, because Aaron Rodgers
is so good at the line of scrimmage, yes, a
lot of what they do was predicated on what he
is doing at the line of scrimmage, whereas that is
not the case with Mason Rudolph. And if you notice,
(31:03):
they play a little bit more up tempo with Mason Rudolph,
and the play is called and they go and try
and execute that play to a point where it actually
could be a little bit more simplistic that way, as
opposed to changing routes, changing assignments, changing blocking schemes, whatever.
Up front, and what is Aaron Rodgers' strength And I'm
(31:25):
not saying it's holding him back, because it's not. But
when all that's not on point, you know, it's not
as effective maybe as Okay, here's the play, let's go
out and execute it. This is what's designed, let's go
do it.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
And that's kind of what was working yesterday Jerry Dulac
with us right now.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Defensively, the Jalen Ramsey situation. You know, when that first happened,
I thought, well, there's Ramsey being Ramsey again. But I
think he was playing up to the line before that.
And once somebody spits on you, well all bets are off.
I'm you know, it seemed like everybody had Jalen Ramsey's
back in the locker room on that one.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
You know, Jalen Ramsey is always playing up to the line.
You know, he's he's just one play away from a
fifteen yard penalty. That's just the nature of who he
is and how he plays. The funny thing is is.
I'm watching them stand there, you know, face mask to
face mask, talking, jawing, whatever they're doing. But it was
they weren't kind of barking at each other as much
(32:25):
as they were just talking to each other. So I'm
watching them through the glasses, you know, and all of
a sudden, I see Ramsey react the way he didn't.
I thought, oh my god, what's that about?
Speaker 12 (32:34):
Right?
Speaker 11 (32:34):
You know, now we know what happened. He claims he
was spit on. After the game, Jamar Chase said he
didn't spit on anybody. There's a video out there that
certainly appears that that was the case, and obviously the
league's going to look into it. But yeah, you know,
back to back on sportsman like that gets you kicked
out of the game, and and you know he had
(32:55):
to be, you know, as I don't know how much
TV showed it or if you were at the game,
Randall saw his teammates repeatedly, several the restraining him and
pulling them away and getting him out of there. And yeah,
he you know, the way he reacted, I think it
was more than Jamar Chase saying something about his mom
or something, you know. So I don't know, but obviously
(33:18):
the league's gonna look into it and we'll see what
the repercussions are. If Jamar Chase did do that, I'm
sure he'll get probably a one game suspension for sure.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Yeah, he was amazing.
Speaker 9 (33:26):
Afterward, I saw a clip posted online Ramsey talking about
how that all occurred and we can't play it because
every third word is a curse. But he was, Yeah,
we were just talking bleep, but I like talking bleep
and that's part of the game, and just normal talking
bleep and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
It escalated.
Speaker 11 (33:47):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's what it looked like, mikel. Like
I said, as I'm watching him, you can see it
wasn't like they were just going back and forth. They
were kind of standing there. He knew they weren't exchanging pleasantries,
but it wasn't anything animated as we see sometimes, so
like it was the previous play. And then, like I said,
he just kind of erupted, and I thought, wow, how
(34:08):
one how stupid not knowing what transpired, and then I thought, well,
he must have said something that had listened that reaction,
and now we know, or at least we think we
know what it was.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Jerry what's going on with Calvin Austin not getting as
many reps as Roman Wilson at number two yesterday?
Speaker 11 (34:26):
Yeah, I don't know. All I can say, and I'll
look into it, but all I can say is the
same thing that happened last week, you know, with Kenneth
Gainwell getting more snaps than Jalen Warren. You know, they
go into a game with certain players for certain packages,
and the assistant coaches are the ones who rotate the
players into the game. Now last week, because they got
(34:48):
behind in the third quarter and then they were going
hurry up in the fourth quarter in LA. You know,
Kenneth Gainwell was in on us, you know, was a
guy before the game designated for some of those packages.
And when they keep running him over and over, you know,
he ends up in the game more than Jaln Warren.
That's not that's not a defense to me. That's it's
(35:08):
a poor excuse because you need to have Jalen Warren
in the game with no knock against Kenny Gamewell. And
I'm sure I'm guessing, I'm guessing probably the same thing
happened again. But Roman Wilson has been he's been, you know,
he's you've noticed him the last three or four games,
and he's been productive for him. So I don't know
that that's it, but that's that's at least maybe some
(35:31):
small explanation for what happened.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Well, I'm looking at it like this going this weekend,
assuming Mason is going to have to play again, Let's
say midway through the second quarter, he sprains his mustache,
he's got to sit down. So then they have Will
Howard comes in. Okay, that's right, the people's champion comes in,
and then the Steelers get get they get the preview
(35:55):
of whether or not they got anything in Will Howard.
This might be a gift in a weird way. He
would be so unprepared to go into a game if
he had to go into a game.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Let's know what the internet says, Mike Twitter believes that
this guy. I know what the internet says. I think the.
Speaker 11 (36:13):
Internet thinks he could. He could take him to the
super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (36:15):
Yeah, we got about three Will Howard calls out of
about twenty five or twenty six that we took last night.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But do you think no, no, no, no, is he ready?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
No?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Would no?
Speaker 11 (36:29):
The reality randall of the situation is they will get
him prepared this week more so than he has h
you know, pending Aaron Rodgers injury, which I don't think
Aaron Rodger are going to play this week. But they
will get him ready as the number two quarterback, unlike
what has the least the last week or so, where
he's just kind of two weeks is where he's running
the scout team. So that that is one byproduct for
(36:51):
this is they will get him more prepared at least
to you know, be the guy who could go see
if something happens to Mason So and I don't know
that mustache is that mustache is looking pretty good. Random.
I can't see it getting injured at all.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
That is true. That is true. It does have girth.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
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Speaker 11 (37:15):
You got it right.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I'll see okay on the way for you.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Rob King's going to be joining us a power of
Steelers talk. As we look back at the Steelers thirty
four Bengals twelve yesterday, and I look ahead at that
Chicago game and what will end up happening there. You know,
I don't even know why. I wasn't considering him taking snaps.
I'm like, it's his left wrist. Who cares, that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Just put a cast on it.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
You'll be fine. But yeah, that would suck. I mean,
that's probably your nap, you know, just asking for the
exchange to be biffed. You could probably go gun all day,
but I don't think you want to do that now.
We just I mean, severely limit yourself and as good
as he is at play action too, like really losing
a weapon there, all right?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
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By the way, it's not Wednesday, it's Monday, which means
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