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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is WDV Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Flacco gets a snap back to pass. Jul's bringing five
flack over.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
The middle of field. That's picked off. It's Dugger. Dugger
to the forty yard line, racing across.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
The fifty to the forty looking for a block from
Herbig gets a trigging got the left sideline. It's Chase
this and Waltz's into the hand zone. Dougger a seventy
two yard interception return for a touchdown for the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Cole doug you're paying dividends.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
That was in the third quarter of yesterday's Steelers Bengals game,
and that put the Steelers up twenty to nine heading
into the fourth quarter, and that would be enough the
Steelers win. They emerge Victoria's yesterday thirty four to twelve
over Bungles at Akroscher Stadium. A very windy day yesterday

(01:24):
at Akershure. I didn't end up going.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
It looked really uncomfortable and cold, like I kept seeing.
On the way to my parents' house to watch the game.
I'm watching people's adorable Thanksgiving wreath's blow off isn't everything.
I was thinking, like, this is gonna be a problem
for the game, and I couldn't tell on TV how
bad it was until they'd get to the crowd and
you just see people be like, you know, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
My friends who were at the game were texting me
saying it was cold like the wind chill with that
win knocked it down into the thirties.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yesterday mattered not for your Steelers.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Early on it looked like the wind was just keeping
anything from happening, as they had went into halftime with
a ten to six score. It was really for the
Pittsburgh Steelers yesterday. A story of the backups because of injury.
Mason Rudolph emerges for Aaron Rodgers, who apparently may have
a small broken bone in his left hand.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Christmas comes early with Mason, but that is scary for Rogers.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean the early indications from Ian Rappaport had
tweeted out that Aaron Rodgers is already telling people like
it won't be a long time pursuit. He thinks it's
because he shaved. He thinks that was bad luck. He
shouldn't have shaved. Then that might be the case and
doctors might recommend immediately grow that stuble back.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
And obviously because we did the Steelers pol Cup.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
But by the.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
Numbers, I mean you, what was your first thought, I
mean thinking whether Mason played better narrative, because you're gonna
get that because by the numbers, if you're comparing it
relative to the time that they spent in the game.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Two drives, you know what I mean, it's even.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
But at the same time, you can say Mason had
poise and he looks like he's got time to read
a defense. It looks like he has more catchuble passes.
But Aaron Rodgers clearly had an injury.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, but here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
I thought the offense looked a whole lot better under
Mason Rudolph kicking field goals. There's kind of the same thing.
Steelers ended up well. I mean, look, no, the second
drive was impressive, and he hit gain well again game
one with a big day yesterday. He was the other
backup that I was talking about coming in for Jalen
Warren after he hurt his ankle that one. I'm a

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little more worried about in terms of his availability next
week than Aaron Rodgers because I feel like with Mason
we're about is good.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Maybe not.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
You know, he's not as good of a football brain
as Aaron Rodgers. And here's the other thing about Aaron
Rodgers and his injury. I mean, sure, our doctors are
gonna do their thing, but he's got to do his
own research too, and that takes a little while.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
It can be a coup a couple more days. You
put alo on.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
The hand and just hope pray put a couple healing
crystals on it.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, he's got some like Hawaiian remedy for it. I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Look, whatever he's got to do to get back on
the field, that's cool. But I'm not bummed out if
it ends up being Mason three hundred and forty three
yards total yesterday for your Pittsburgh Steelers, two hundred and
thirty two through the air. We had the ball for
ten more seconds than they did. Hey, Steelers winning time
of possession. That's a biggin That is a bigin. They

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very rarely do that. Gainwell, was your leading receiver yesterday
with eighty one yards on those two touchdowns. Jalen Warren
still the leading rusher only ten carries before he was injured.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
For sixteen yards.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Chase Brown for the Bengals nearly for one hundred yards
again yesterday at ninety nine, so they're able to get
it done on the ground against the Steelers once again.
Some big place from Nate Herbig yesterday Ian the place
of Alex high Smith. Herbb's awesome.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Is he I adore him? Yeah, he's incredible. But Flacco,
I mean Flacco looked.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
A little less, you know, impervious than he did last time.
He the wind I think messed with him a little bit,
and I think the ghosts of hinz Field may have
been surrounding him yesterday. He had the yips a couple
of times. But all's well in Steeler Land now and
everything is headed in the right direction in terms of

(05:45):
the division six to four for your Pittsburgh Steelers who
head to Chicago. Baltimore almost drops one to Cleveland, but
Dylan Gabriel gets hurt and Shadur Sanders came in.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Did you watch any of that?

Speaker 6 (05:58):
I saw saw enough. So Schador's story is as promised
in terms of like being a Brown's hater. That couldn't
have gone better. Yeah, watching him just flail out immediately,
So what did he get like right away? He gets
intercepted right away.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Wasn't right away? I mean it was like the third pass.
I mean, come on, I thought he looked right away.
But he looked better than Dylan Gabriel. I mean, he
looked very poised through it. It's like Mason, you know
what I mean. It's like same result. But he almost
he had a guy open for a touchdown that would
have tied the game or with a two pointed version,
put them ahead with just like a minute and change left.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
But he wildly missed him.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
I took a couple of terrible sacks too, but that, notwithstanding,
Shador's debut, was inauspicious. The Browns are in trouble and
they couldn't do us a favor and knock off the Ravens.
We're gonna have to do that ourselves.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Michael.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Have more on the post game coming up for you
here at the bottom of the hour, Tim Benz, Jerry Dulac,
Rob King, and you know, we obviously spent the line's
share of last week, or the middle part till the end,
saying so long to our friend Bill who is now
onto greener comedy pastures, and so because it happened in

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such short order for us. I mean it was a
very quick tournament, you know, by the time that we
figured this was all going down, and then the company
kind of is like, well, you have to make the
change now, like, which makes it weird for all of us.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
In terms of timing.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
We're gonna have some friends come in and sit with
us here for the next couple of weeks until we
kind of figure out what the hell we're gonna do.
But Jeff Conkle will be in today. Mister Wednesday comes
in on a Monday, Folks. Don't let that confuse you.
I know, hearing that voice might make you think you
got a meeting later today or something like that, and
you don't. That meeting is still on Wednesday. He is

(07:52):
just dropping by on Monday. Abby's got a news update
for you. Now, what's going on over there? Is this
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this morning clouds than sun Anahi today of forty five,
The Federal Aviation Administration is ending its emergency flight Reduction
order this morning, allowing flights to return to normal operations
after weeks of cancelations and delays caused by the government shutdown.

(08:15):
The official time for lifting the order was six am
Eastern Time, so that brings an end to the cuts
that started on November seventh, with a four percent reduction
in flights at forty major airports. The reductions were put
in place to deal.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
With fatigue and staffing problems among air traffic controllers during
the record long government shutdown. The FAA said it's rolling
back the restrictions now that staffing levels have become stable
following the end of the shutdown on Wednesday. The decision
comes at the start of the busy Thanksgiving travel period
and was made after an FAA review of safety trends
and because staffing problems at air traffic control facilities have

(08:52):
been steadily declining.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Well, we got the guy from the real world on
this right, shut nothing. Surely, I'm not worried at all.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
He's been practicing for this his whole life.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Just bring in the you know, maybe Rob from Ridiculousness
can help him out. Exactly as many of those kinds
of people as possible, you know, the brightest minds of
our generation put them on these details. And I'm not
worried about our federal aviation issues.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
What would Puck be good at?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
He's probably going to be a Supreme Court justice. Here
you go. Yeah, give him time.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
I am not planning on flying for Thanksgiving next week.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I am driving the Eerie.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
I'm not going to It was either Chicago Erie, and
I'm like, there's no way we're doing Chicago, dude. It's
not happening, not with the issues that have been mounting.
But you know my theory about Thanksgiving travel, there's only
one way to do it, and that is Thanksgiving morning.
As long as you can get a direct flight somewhere.
You walk right through the airport like you own it.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Nobody's there.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
You pop right through the security lines. You want something
from McDonald's. There's not a big line, you know how
there's always that massive line in in the airport, although
I don't know it's a new one, but still walk
right up. Nobody's there. You can hear the music. You
never even noticed it before. There's music piping through because
there's nobody in the airport. You walk onto your plane.

(10:13):
Everyone's hey, ol Aria, nice to see you because they're
not having any pains in the asses because there's only
fifteen people on the plane. You fly to your destination,
you walk off, you take a cab, boom, you're at
your sister's house. It's that simple, and it's the day
of But the thing is it does rob you of
Wednesday Night. And I do like Wednesday night with the family,
doing a little turkey prep, throwing down a few glasses

(10:34):
of wine, playing the music, doing a little notioning on
this and that and the other thing. And then you
always have a meal that's a little bit, you know,
of a precursor, non turkey related while we're doing turkey
to marrows pizza wings or tacos, you know, And that's
always a delightful hang too.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
So you are robbed of that.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
But to me, the planes, trains and automobiles of Thanksgiving
are worth of witning.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Do you turn it up the night before Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Because not anymore.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
I don't either. And that's always been a huge night
for people who want to come back from high school
or college. Everybody wants to get together, and that's why
that's such a big drinking night. I don't have the
bandwidth for it anymore. I'm more like you were. I
want to kind of be settled with whatever the family
plan is, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
More charcuterie board.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
I want to do light bites.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
That's right. Wine security board.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
As you know though, is that's like the light bite
idea on a charcuterie board. I end up eating the
equivalent of a triangle sub by the end of the night.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
Only yeah, I'm in pain by the end of the
goody boards.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
No light bites.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
It's nitrates itself, it's fat, it's cheese, and you just
don't stop because you're like, well, I'm only having a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
You're not, No, you're not.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
But I told you my secret weapon on the charcuterie board,
which we can go through exactly what needs to be
on there. But my secret weapon is I always put
dried fruit and prunes also go on the charcuterie board
because you got to move that cheese.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
You got to move the cheese. Got to move that cheese. Really,
that's tactical.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
It is tactical. Yes, you got it. You can't just
destroy your stomach lining. But you know, you gotta have
some soft cheeses, like the real dippable ones. I always
have like a cream cheese with like some kind of
like spicy berry puree on top. So you got to
keep it like soft soft, and then you got the

(12:30):
hard cheeses, and.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Like the stinky cheeses like a Camembert. You mean like
you're talking like a little bree or you mean like
not even softer like a cream cheese. Grandma, coming over,
What are we worried about here? How soft like a
cream cheese? Cream cheese?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (12:47):
Well, literally like put like a cream cheese like Philadelphia
cream cheese.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
You literally can do that with Like I have this
thing called I can't remember what it's called, but it
is like a spicy blueberry actually BlackBerry pure, and you
put it over the top of the cream cheese and
it's hot but it's sweet. And then you put that
over top of the cream cheese and it just like

(13:11):
kind of kicks your ass, but you cannot stop eating it.
So it's like it's this secret weapon on the charcouterie
board too, because it almost replaces the need to have
like a fig jam too. So I mean you can
put that on there. I know I do too. I
like to always have that on there as well, But

(13:31):
it replaces Jim Girl, I really am. Then you get
some nuts, get some pistachios, all that in addition all
the cheeses we're assuming the cheesests I never knew. And
then we've got the meats and the cheeses. That's understood.
But then you also have to have a couplets, a

(13:54):
couple of cirkands.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
A couple's right there is what that is?

Speaker 6 (14:01):
Am I missing anything?

Speaker 5 (14:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Well, I you. I mean you've got a lot of variety.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
But I think that that is the night before Thanksgiving?
I mean that is that is not a light bite,
is my point. That's a girl dinner, is what that is.
Sometimes I do that on a Friday. Yeah, oh this
cracker and that's the hilarious thing is but oh these
are gluten free cracker, Like, just have the gluten, don't
worry about it. You are you are putting so much
salty meat into your belly right now.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
And you're not leaving the house.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Well, at any rate, back to the actual travel of Thanksgiving,
h it sounds like things are headed in the right direction.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
And that's great news, it really is. Are they so
they're gonna stop canceling thirty flights a day? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (14:40):
I've had a ton of family traveling lately, and I
was surprised every single one of them. I would check in,
I'd be like, how was your flight? What happened? Did
you get yeah, you know, did you get slammed? Did
you get held up? So far, I have not heard
a single horror story. And I expected, especially this week.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's gonna there.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
There are gonna be problems this week regardless, because it's
just that time of year. So even if things weren't
screwed up from the federal perspective and the budget and
all that crap, yeah, they're going to have Thanksgiving holiday
travel related issues. And I always kind of ask you guys, like,
is it do you think we are crazier now because

(15:19):
of social media and everybody's in fight or flight constantly
and more interactions are happening, or does do people just
have phones now and we record all of these incidents
They've always happened. People have always been crashing out and
you know, no pun intended on planes, and we just
never documented it before.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
I think it's that just because there's been even so
many instances in music history where I will watch a
documentary and see like where I would have been unaware
that something even in music was happening the entire time.
I feel like the Devo stuff, uh huh. I'm trying

(16:02):
to think of like a good example.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Oh yeah, we're like you're looking back in time and
then you're seeing like, oh, it was so tumultuous back then.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
We think of even now like political climate where you know,
you're watching being like, oh my god, there's so much
going on. It feels like no one's paying attention. Yeah,
and then you watch from Devo's perspective, they're you know,
they're talking about you know, the Ohio Campus, Kent State,
Kent State. It just you know, they're like, how how
could this have happened? And then the next day everybody
acted like everything was normal. No one's paying attention. And

(16:31):
so again from their perspective, going like, no, this has
always been we're constantly inundated and life keeps going back
to normal, and how is nobody paying attention? So that's
where I go, oh no, it's always been like this.
We have more of a mirror on ourselves now because
we have these you know, turn the camera around.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
You know what else gives you that same perspective as
there's a new documentary on Netflix right now, Yoko. It's
johnn and Yoko rue to One, which was like the
only concert, full concert post Beatles that he did was
this like benefit and he really got sucked into the
left wing sort of radical movement of that time. And

(17:14):
you see how crazy all that stuff was. We hear
about it constantly, you know, from JFK to MLK to
Bobby Kennedy and George Wallace and all these assassinations happening
that time in our country, which was fifty plus years ago,
just as crazy as everything that's going on today. It
is cyclical. But when you're not in it and you

(17:35):
look back in the history book, it always seems like, oh, yeah,
that was that was a blip, But it couldn't have
been like now, right. You think people weren't crashing out
on planes back then, people weren't freaking out on each
other over you know, what seat they had or how
long they had to wait. I don't know, though, you know,
air travel was so relatively new back then, maybe people
were too afraid to do it. Then we could under

(17:57):
this airport are going to lose it exactly. But that
John and Yoko documentary is pretty cool. It's worth watching
because they recorded a ton of phone calls from their
apartment because they were afraid they were being wiretapped. They were,
and they would have proof against the government if they
ever tried to manipulate some of the calls coming out

(18:20):
of their house. Wow. So they have all these phone
calls and they run them. It's all about the first
year in New York City for them. But you just
see also how easily manipulatable they were because John, especially
because he just wanted to be doing the right thing,
and then all these people kind of prey on them,
and they get to the point where like this group

(18:41):
they're supporting, like all of a sudden wants to do
this like radical violence at the Republican National Convention in Miami.
And He's like violence, what are you talking about? Like,
that's I'm John, She's Yoko were the piece people like
remember the whole Bedden thing. Yeah, it's and they have

(19:02):
like these phone calls about it. It's really interesting.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
Wow, I mean they had kind of reason to be paranoid.
What is that on the documentary? To yours?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I said, Netflix, But it's HBO. It's actually it's actually HBO.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
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Speaker 5 (20:15):
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Speaker 9 (20:25):
Tripp Sports is up brought to you by Bridgeville applies
to the story in the aftermath of Steelers thirty four
Bengals twelve is Aaron Rodgers' health status. But what got
the Steelers a w against the Bengals was the defense.

Speaker 10 (20:39):
I just thought as a collective Weather's front secondary linebackers,
I just think we were more solid. I think we
were more connected. I thought we communicated. Well, it's not
necessarily about what it is that they do. It's about
the quality of what we do. And I thought we
were just above the line and so many of the
intangible areas today it allowed us to play.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
And that remained the case even after Jalen Ramsey was
ejected for picking up a second personal weed get to that,
throwing a punch at Jamar Chase. Ramsey's contention afterward was
the Chase spit on him, and there is video evidence
to corroborate that. Chase said he did not spin on him.
The referee and crew did not see it, so it

(21:19):
wasn't called. So Ramsey's the guy that got thrown out.
Mike Tomin did not seem all that upset about it
when he addressed it in his remarks. Obviously, you don't
want your good players getting thrown out of the game,
and you want them to finish. But Tomin seemed very
understanding of it because they won.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
I mean, it's like when Joey Porter got kicked out
in Cleveland, the William Green fight that all of a
sudden started, right, had that cost them that game? Well,
then different situation, right well?

Speaker 9 (21:51):
And I think another part of that is there are
similar players in that Ramsey's the guy. Remember Andy Widel's
assessment in August Violet and Vicious. He knows the line though, Yeah,
but you know everyone's why going to go over now.
Charlie and I talked about this with a lot of
people on the postgame show. I'm understanding of it. Charlie
is adamant that you just don't accept that. You don't

(22:12):
let a guy spin on you, that you do what
you gotta do in that instance.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Your understanding of it, what do you mean, like you,
I'm not down on him.

Speaker 9 (22:19):
I wish he didn't wouldn't have done it, Okay, so
but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna kill him for it.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
And Charlie's like, no, no, no, you know you don't
put hands on.

Speaker 9 (22:29):
Don't take that and that's that's that, and it's just
it's not negotiable. You know, you hope that doesn't happen
in an NFC championship game.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Well, it's gonna cost Jamar a game. He's going to
be The NFL is going to act on this. They
do have spit rules, yes, and they have the videos.
If you don't swallow in the NFL, they, like I say,
they put you out for at least one game.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Now, if Chase would also got the gate, then fine
with it.

Speaker 9 (23:01):
In the course of the end, because you lose one
of your really good players, they lose one of their
really good players.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
It's an even trade off.

Speaker 9 (23:06):
It did put the Steelers in a tougher spot, but
they handled it. Their Their defensive performance was what kind
of everybody's been waiting on all year that Cincinnati. Say
what you will about the Bengals and their record and
how good a team they are, that offense has spent
the last month tearing people apart ever since s Lacko

(23:27):
got there, and Jamar Chase ten targets, three catches, thirty
receiving yards, long gain of sixteen and they didn't even
do anything special to shut them down. After the twenty
three targets, sixteen catch, one hundred and sixty one yard
performance in Cincinnati. They played their stuff when he was

(23:48):
in the slot, and Eccles had him when he was
outside on Porter side. Porter had him when he was
outside on Pierre's side, Pierre Adam and they just played.
They just ran their stuff and were very effective doing
it so well.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Since Flacco got there, they were the number one offense
in the league. He threw for four hundred and seventy
yards last week.

Speaker 9 (24:06):
We saw it against Pittsburgh the first time. I mean
veteran guys, smart guys still got a good arm. Elite
wideouts Joe Flacco. Yesterday it was twenty three or forty
for a buck ninety nine to one touchdown. One interception
is passer rating sixty eight points. Should have been sick.
Two interceptions by Dugger, Yeah, you know, I don't know.
The first one was a drop pick six Peyton wilsonbody

(24:28):
got a hand in there because they kind of had
him bracketed. I think it was Higgins, And I don't
know if Dugger dropped it just on his own merit
or if he had a little help. But the pick
six was certainly timely and that defensive performance. Yeah, that's
that's what it was supposed to look like. Splash and
low scoring. Now the two defensive touchdowns are a cherry

(24:52):
on top of the Sunday. But that offense has been
killing people.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
The fact that after they lost ram after slays out
Echles is limping and defensively they are limited and you
got Chuck Clark back there. The fact that that resulted
in a James Pierre. By the way, James Pierre always
makes plays. I'm not saying he's good down to down,
but he seems to make some big plays. He had

(25:19):
a couple of big breakups yesterday.

Speaker 9 (25:21):
Play made on the deep post to Jamar Hut textbook,
that's how you play corner beautiful against as good a
receiver as there is.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Think he was his opposite hand, left hand up in
the air like.

Speaker 9 (25:31):
He was no penalty time right ran with him. Well,
I don't know where Ramsey was on that play. He
used the free safety. He was out to lunch on
that one. But yeah, they got great play from Pierre.
They mentioned Gay Weell coming in for Warren. I mean
Mason Rudolph came in for Aaron Rodgers at halftime a
wound up going twelve for sixteen for a buck twenty seven,

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one touchdown, no interceptions. His passer rating was one to
eighteen point five. Rudolph able to come in and do
what needed to be done because he was ready once
he got fingered.

Speaker 11 (26:03):
Well, I mean I saw what you guys saw, which
was he kind of go down and gingerly a little bit.
But I wouldn't sure severity, and I'm still really not
sure either. So we talked in the locker room and
he told me he kind of he gave him the
finger and said you're going not the bad and said
you're going in. And so we you know, appreciate Arthur

(26:25):
Smith and and Tom working with me to kind of
get to the stuff that I liked in the game plan,
and Taylor to kind of my favorite.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
I mean, that would be hilarious if that's how he
let people know they were going in the game.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
He gave me the finger. Hey, these guys good and steady.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
He was steady, gang Wells, handsome, he's got bravado.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
That mustache says trust my cheese. Mall have been proud
of absolutely. He's the Freddie Mercury of quarterbacks.

Speaker 9 (26:57):
We all know that, so the Steelers still maintaining there
one game lead. In the AFC North, the Ravens got
thirteen fourth quarter points to beat the Browns twenty three
to sixteen. Should Sanders forced into the game and in
the second half due to a head injury sustained by
Dylan Gabriel. I had a chance to watch that game
while we're doing the postgame show. Shardre Sanders is horrible,

(27:20):
has no idea what he's doing. Same thing he did
in Colorado, run backwards when there's pressure and throw it wildly.
Only he's not thrown to the Heisman Trophy winner against Tulsa.
This time he took two sacks that probably lost them.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Between the two plays forty five yards. It slink. He
just runs backward. You can't do that, you know what.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
That's the one thing I would say that at his
accuracy is all over.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
I mean he had a guy opening the end zone
for a touchdown that would have tied the game with
a minute or so left.

Speaker 9 (27:53):
Oh the fump Stefansk guy go for two there, just
because if my quarterbacks you have to go there. Yeah,
we're not doing anything in overtime.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Some run some kind of wildcat yeah, they would.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Speaking of which, did you see the play that the
Ravens ran out of the tush push with Andrews behind
center that he ran for the touchdown that when I
missed they line up like for a tush push, and
Andrews takes the snap and rolls out wide open up
like bootlegs and around the right side thirty yard touchdown run.

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And as I watch it, I thought, yeah, I'm like,
I am so glad they ran that against the Browns. Like,
to me, that was the victory. It's because that play
was unstoppable. It was against Like, I'm so glad you
wasted it against the Browns one of the games I
guess it didn't. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine as long
as it doesn't, you know, beat the Steelers.

Speaker 9 (28:45):
Yeah, no, I mean they're not anything there. The Steelers
in the Ravens are the same like a lot of teams.
They can win, they can lose. People looking at the
schedule thing, oh my god, they gotta play Boltemore's Baltimore's
got to play Pittsburgh twice.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, that to be fair. That Brown's defense is good.

Speaker 9 (29:03):
Yeah, and the offenses they're the inverse Bengals. If you
have the Bengals offense in the Brown's defense, you'd probably
win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Abbay's got your news coming up at the top of
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Speaker 5 (29:16):
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Conkle's gonna hang out with us in studio in about
fifteen twenty minutes, Zone Rob King has a power hour
of Steelers talk for you the Steelers at six and
four now after yesterday's thirty four to twelve win over
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Speaker 3 (30:07):
Email back to pass looking throws out to the right
flat at is complete to Noah fan and fit to
hands around the ball which still lost it.

Speaker 13 (30:15):
It's picked up by Pierre.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Pierre racing down on the left sideline, summersaults into the
end zone. Had a second defensive touchdown for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
You know, I if I were the Bengals, I might
have looked at that again.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
That was it was close. It was real close.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Fan did it looked like it did look like the
ball started to move before his knee hit.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
But I'm I mean, just bear, just buy a horse hair.
You know. All I know is that hit the oases
I did. Here's the thing, Abby, I want the Steelers
to do well.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
But like the text between me and Mike during the game,
where like if I hit a prop, I'm like, just
like all caps texts to him, I'm.

Speaker 9 (30:59):
Like, mother, Yeah, well we do a little pregame, you know, Yeah,
And I did love I didn't love you where you
landed pregame.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
But boy it all ended up working out, didn't I know?
Mike's a winner.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
So was our next guest, Tim Benz, brought to you
by Don's Appliances, where Pittsburgh shops for appliances.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
It was the story of the backups yesterday.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
But what was the difference in your mind, Tim, between
the first time these two teams met and yesterday at
Akroshuer Stadium.

Speaker 14 (31:29):
Well, one difference that I noticed. And by the way,
I was not a winner yesterday because I had the
Pat Bryer moot prop because silly me, I thought they'd
throw to the guy who skewers the Bengals every single
time he plays, and so I lost out on that one.
But on the positive side, I thought one thing that
they did better this time defensively was not overreact when

(31:53):
Chase Brown popped a few runs. Mike Tomlin after the
first game against Cincinnati just couldn't stopped talking about how
we had to get out of our defense because Chase
Brown had a couple of big runs and then they
started making him the focal point of their defensive attack
as opposed as to superstar wide receivers, and you saw

(32:13):
what happened. I asked Patrick Queen about that in the
locker room following the game, because again Chase Brown unfortunately
had a couple of big runs and at least one
big catch. And his response was, you know, plays happened,
and we learned that not every time something happens against
us we have to react. Sometimes it's football and somebody

(32:34):
just makes it play. And I thought there was real
value to that answer. And I thought there was real
there's real value to that approach as well from the
Steelers defense.

Speaker 9 (32:43):
Yeah, to your point, Tim, Terrell Austin even said he
changed the way he was calling the game the last time.

Speaker 14 (32:49):
Right, Yeah, they both Tomlin, it was awesome too.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
So it was the tale of backups yesterday getting it done.
And you know Mike Tomlin, his favorite Tomlin is in
the standard is the standard next man up that really
delivered yesterday, not just with Mason Rudolph, but Kenneth Gainwell,
who they rely on even when Jalen Warren is healthy,
but he became the lone guy along with Caleb Johnson

(33:14):
spelling him for five carries yesterday. James Pierre defensively getting
it done after the injury to Slay, and of course
Mason doing Mason things yesterday. I said earlier, Tim, I
thought the offense looked a lot better, getting pretty much
the same result with Mason.

Speaker 14 (33:32):
Yeah, I thought that actually his numbers could have looked
better too, if it weren't for the OPI on DK Metcalf.

Speaker 15 (33:38):
But I don't know.

Speaker 14 (33:39):
When DK Metcalf crapped in the corn flakes of that officiating.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, how about they.

Speaker 14 (33:43):
Were out looking for him and they also got him
on the deep ball. I did not. Here's another bet
I did not have at halftime score sixteen to nothing,
sixteen to ten combined teams go it's with ten penalty
flags staying within the spread. So good job out of

(34:04):
Bill as the referees recovering at halftime. That was a
little much, and they looked flag happy throughout. But now
I thought Mason was quite good. I thought that they
were smart in their offensive approach. They seem to run
a lot of clearouts underneath. They got the attention in
the eyes of the secondary of the Bengals deep, and

(34:25):
they ran Dk underneath, They ran Washington underneath. And this
whole conversation about Jalen Warren and what he can do
on third downs, I stand by that, and I feel
like I said at once, I said it fifty times.
None of it was the smirching Kenneth Gainwell like him
as a player, loved him as an acquisition, and you know,
the two best games he's had or when he's had

(34:47):
the opportunity to be the first and second down back too,
not only yesterday but in Dublin as well. So I
think there's something to that, and I think it underscores
my stance that when Warren is healthy, the way to
spell Warren is not taking Warren off the field on
third down.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Agreed, It's giving gain.

Speaker 14 (35:06):
Well a full series or two every now and then.
It's not about playing shuttle back. It's about, Okay, Warren
needs a break. He just had two series. Put Gainwell
in for one, and you probably don't lose out in
terms of production.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yeah, that one third down run where they brought Gainwell
and I think it was in the first quarter and
he failed to make the line of game there. Warren
had been running over people, making people miss there. I'm
not sure why you spell him in the middle of
that series.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
And I still don't get game Well between the tackles.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
No, he's better at it than I thought he was
gonna be, but he's not better than Warren at it.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
No, right, right? If you're gonna run it there.

Speaker 9 (35:43):
Or you know, tosses or whatever, get him on the perimeter,
let him use his vision and his quick so all that.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I get that, but yeah, I'm not a big fan.
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
He had one that he picked up yesterday like left handed,
almost picked it off the ground and then ended up
running for a first down. That was just remarkable. Both
both he and Warren were great yesterday. When Warren was
was healthy. Caleb Johnson always like he shows a little
bit of flash and he looked like, oh, maybe maybe
here's where.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
He's gonna get it. And then he grabs a guy's
face mask as he's running around the if you are
starting to see it finally.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Yes, it does like he has the trajectory of Roman Wilson,
maybe a little bit better, like maybe there's something there.

Speaker 14 (36:27):
But yeah, at least they're putting him on the field
because they didn't even put Roman Wilson on the field
during his rookie year. So at least he's getting the
occasional snap. And I didn't talk about Pierre. You were
right to raise Pierre's name too, and you mentioned those
standards of the standard thing. He's actually risen the standard
at cornerback as opposed to what was being played there
by Sleigh. So uh yeah, he was good. I thought

(36:48):
you guys described it well in sports when he made
that great play down the field on Chase and the
two the two big defensive touchdowns. Give credit to the
up front on the pick six for Doug or two
like that was another play where they used the three
outside linebacker look and it paid off. They should do
it more often. They had TJ. Watt and Nick Herbig

(37:13):
rushing from the left side of the formation. They had
Sawyer up top and the defensive the defensive view on
the right side of the formation, and her Big looped
around Watt to a vacated hole in the second the
offensive line and just streaked right through gotten flackless face.
What occupied two guys? I love that three linebacker look,

(37:33):
regardless of which three it is. It worked out forced
to throw and Dugger did the rest.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
How concerned are you going forward here heading to Chicago?
Should Aaron Rodgers not be available, Will Howard would then
be one heart beat away from the presidency.

Speaker 14 (37:50):
I'm plenty fine with Will Howard continuing to be the
president pro tem. I don't need to see an accelerator.
Will Howard program here. I'm all right with the government shown.
We do not need to keep moving. Will Howard up
the depth chart. I know there will be some clamor
for that, there will be some discussion to that. Mason
was fine yesterday. I think whatever does or doesn't happen

(38:11):
in Chicago based on their horrid history at Soldier Field
will happen, whether it's Rogers or Mason. I don't think
we need to press the fast forward button on Will
Howard Just go forward with Mason Rudolph if Rogers can't go.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
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Thanks Benzi.

Speaker 14 (38:34):
Oh you got it, guys.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
We'll see hm. Abby's got your news when we return.

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Speaker 4 (39:30):
Here's Tom Opperman.

Speaker 17 (39:31):
The Steelers defeated the Bengal Sunday at Akroshuer Stadium thirty
four to twelve in a game that the Black and
Gold desperately needed to win. The defense certainly stole the
show for the Steelers yesterday, as they provided plenty of splash,
not only turning the Sinci offense over twice in the game,
but also taking each of those turnovers into the end
zone themselves for touchdowns. The first game from a Kyle
Duger pick six in the third quarter that gave the

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Steelers a double digit twenty to nine lead, and the
second defensive touchdown came courtesy of a scoop and score
by James Pierre in the game's fourth quarter. Speaking Steelers
quarterback Aaron Rodgers was forced to leave the game at
halftime with a wrist injury, leading to Mason Rudolph coming
into the game and navigating the Steelers offense on a
few scoring drives to help get the win. It is
believed Rodgers has a minor fracture in his left wrist

(40:13):
and the team will know more about the severity of
the injury as well as the length of his potential
absence later today. Up next for the Steelers, who improved
to six and four with the win, as a trip
to Chicago to take on the Bears. I'm Tom Opferman
with the Steelers Report.

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Though, is WDVEE Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
And here's a pass out to the left Flatford Gainwell
gets to the end and scampers into the end zone
and Kenneth Gainwell has given the Steelers an early lead
on this opening drive with a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
Huge day from Kenneth gainwell yesterday he had seven catches
for eighty one yards and two touchdowns. Also so added
nine carries for twenty four yards rushing yesterday as the
Steelers take care of business against Joe Flacco and the Bengals,
and the final score, of course, thirty four to twelve.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Good guys, it's a DV morning show.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
Randy Bauman and Abby Krisner and our buddy Jeff Conk
was coming in and hanging out with us here this morning.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
It's good to see you, buddy, Thanks for coming in.
Good morning. I didn't want to confuse anybody because.

Speaker 19 (41:24):
Because it's going to be a lot of people whose
calendars are a little jacked up.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Mister Wednesday came in on a Monday. But with the
quick turnover, when with with Bill's departure, we're going to
have a lot of friends come in and hang out
with us here over the next couple of weeks while
we figure out what the hell we're going to do,
because it all came up so quickly, and so we
appreciate you coming in and hanging out with us.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Happy to clock a shift is happy to do one.

Speaker 19 (41:47):
Happy to do one after a Steelers win, so you
can the people's hearts and are receptive.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
To hearing my voice on Monday. That's nice.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
That was a big deal. Jeff had a he did have.
That was the circumstance that would come in if the
Steelers win. I'll be there, yes, If.

Speaker 19 (42:02):
Not, I want nothing to do with yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Right, uh, Jerry do like will join us a little
bit later on this morning. And Rob King.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
I think the big thing from yesterday's game, of course,
ended up being Spitkate. Yeah, Didny or Didney? Did Jamar
Chase spit on Jalen Ramsey? Jamar Chase says, eh, he
said he did not do it.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
He was saying that you spin on him? Did you
spin on him? I ain't never opened my mouth to
that guy.

Speaker 20 (42:30):
So what do you think prompted the reaction from him?

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Well, he don't like some of us words. I told him.

Speaker 8 (42:37):
We've been going back and foot the whole time, so
I'm sure some shit some got under this can. First
time we had a leducation and then it was a
second time on nobody.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
Now, the funny thing about this to me, I can't
really play much of Jalen Ramsey's account of this because
he just swore this is non stop.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
But he said, when asked, is spinning.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
One of them most disrespectful things someone can do? And
Jalen Ramsey's response was, it is. It's what p words do,
quite honestly, and his his formality in that retort made
me laugh, like, quite honestly, may.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
I be frank with you?

Speaker 5 (43:18):
Cited in footnote three of the BRO Code, one does
not spit on another bro. He's by the way, he's
one hundred percent right, not only with his statement, but
as part of the Bro Code.

Speaker 19 (43:33):
A spit is a on site go that you just
have to start throwing boat. You have to do that.
You can't let that slide.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
You have to. If John Cena spits on you.

Speaker 19 (43:44):
I'm I'm at least going to throw something at him
before I get killed, Like I'm gonna take whatever's close
to me and I'll throw it at him.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
And then here here's the thing about that, though, Jeff,
is that Jalen or rather Jamar Chase denying that he
spit on Jalen Ramsey when the video evidence is so damning,
Like it wasn't just a spit, I mean it was
like a lined up oh yeah, to a voluminous I
mean it was, It had viscosity, it was a it

(44:15):
was visible from the five hundred section.

Speaker 19 (44:19):
So I don't know how he thought he was gonna
get away with this when he's denying it. Do you
remember when Beetlejuice used to be on the Howard Stern Show. Yeah, like, man,
I never did I never did. No, I never open
my mouth, and nobody like that's what that's what it is.
What it sounded like like that was clearly someone trying
to get away with a lie that he was like, Ah, crap,

(44:40):
this is gonna be a this is gonna be a
thing here.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
Well, you know, he took his helmet off on the field,
if nothing else, he should have been ejected for that.
I think the refs bungled that. They bungled a couple
of things again yesterday, but that whole they those two
were going back and forth the whole time. Jamar and
Jalen Ramsey were at each other's throat quite literally right
up until that point. And I know that Ramsey knows

(45:05):
the line. This was the first time that he went
full Ramsey and I was kind of pissed at first.
I'm like, why would he do something like that? No
one he's taking himself out of the end, giving them
the first down here, and then we lose him and
then you find find out about the spits.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
See.

Speaker 19 (45:17):
Yeah, I think his response was like as aggressive with
what within me while being constrained as possible, like grabbing
jerk in the face mask, Like that's probably the minimum
response that he thought, like this is what I can
get away with as a man while trying. I'm not
I'm not trying to get ejected for like five games.
So this is what I'm gonna do, and I'm gonna
take the consequences of that. My teammates will probably be

(45:38):
fine with it. And I actually thought that whole game
between Darnell Washington trucking people and like the the the
spitgate thing, like that to me is prep for Cleveland,
prep for Baltimore, because like those games are gonna be
dogfights and you need to like put a line in
the sand and be like, okay, we're in this, like
we're going I mean, Mount worsh erupted back.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
To pass looking fires over the middle of the field,
complete to Darna wash Oh he shut down a man
and then lowers his shoulder, rumbling down the left sideline.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Oh, he shrugged him off.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
With a stiff arm and got down the left sideline
inside the thirty five yard line of the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Out of the thirty one he sit three guys on.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
That man has a family.

Speaker 19 (46:23):
Good God, there is nothing that gets I really feel
like a good, solid stiff arm might be the thing
that Steelers fans like the most.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Out of anything. Oh my god.

Speaker 19 (46:35):
Yeah, like a defender trying in vain to reach and
just like uh when Le'Veon Bell, I forget when he
I forget who it was against. But he did a
undertaker choke slam to somebody on the way out, and
that crowd popped harder than I've ever heard it before.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
It was so Drake Kirkpatrick twenty seventeen sixty.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Jake had a cooked up already.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Well, the one that I'm thinking the one I'm thinking
of Jacob iss Vance McDonald again, it's Tampa on that
seventy five yarder.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Do you guys remember that one?

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah, Monday Night football. Yeah, Vance McDonald.
He burst down Vance McDonald and.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
He kicks his wading.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Can he get there?

Speaker 5 (47:20):
He just bru I don't remember who that g bac was,
but man, that dude just h Vance McDonald. There's the name.
I haven't heard.

Speaker 19 (47:31):
There's gotta be at least three Vance McDonald jerseys at
a stealer game at any given point.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
There's no doubt there's There really should be a drinking
game associated with now. And I know that Bill used
to do this at the tailgates, where they would reward
people for like the most random jerseys or whatever. But
what they would do is like if you had a
line of sweet jersey, it's like, well that's useless.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Here's a good one.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
But there should be a points system awarded for like
decree of difficulty.

Speaker 19 (48:02):
Yes, it's like landing a triple LUTs and ice skating
or something like that. Like if you go into a
game and come out of a game wearing an Amos
Zeroway jersey, like you should get a prize.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Nick her big big starting yesterday for the injured Alex
high Smith. The thing was, it was all the backups yesterday.
Mason came in and performed well as he always does.
As he always does, Mason.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
It takes a little bit of your dreams, listen, a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Of sex of Mason gets it done once again yesterday.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
So no real fall off when they lose Aaron Rodgers,
which is good to know going forward, whereas mediocre offensively
with Mason as we are with Aaron Rodgers. That being said,
the big one was gain Well again stepping up and
filling the void. James Pierre, though, was the unexpected one.
This is a guy who gets pillari quite often from

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when he comes in.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
He gives up big plays.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
He seems to always have his hand in a big
splash play, but then is on the one way or
the other. Yeah, but he is on the receiving end
of getting toasted. Yesterday that wasn't the case. He was
just great. The long ball to Chase, perfect breakup there
and then of course the funnel recovery returned for a
touchdown that sealed the game.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
That pretty much ended things there.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
Steelers win yesterday over Joe Flack on the Bengals thirty
four to twelve.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Joe Flacco looked normal.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
That was the number one offense in the league since
Joe Flacco joined the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Whoa really?

Speaker 19 (49:27):
And he only threw for like he threw for like
under two hundred yards too, and that was it.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
Yeah, yesterday Joe Flacco ended up with one hundred and
ninety nine yards one touchdown, and of course the interception
returned for a touchdown. Dugger who almost had another one
plus seven hundred on a Dougger interception yesterday, Oh boy,
plus six hundred on a Steelers defensive touchdown.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
I felt it just had an inkling, Abbey.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
Dude, can Dugger, by the way, change his Twitter banner
from the Patriots to the Steelers? Now?

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Is he even on?

Speaker 5 (49:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (49:58):
He is, Yeah, his banner still says that he plays
for the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Well make that a tweeting.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Yeah, well okay, Well about how about a Sante Samuel
or not or which might call it jabrill peppers. You
know what, I'll check them all, Abby, I'll check them all.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Animal report to me later.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
It's like when you know somebody who like just broke
up with their girlfriend, but their Twitter picture is them together,
and you're like, did.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
You just not get around to it or is this
wishful thinking? That's just.

Speaker 19 (50:31):
Maybe just maybe we'll get back together. Drake May is
looking pretty good.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
He's not posting, but he is. He is liking thanks,
so he's on there. Abby has a news update for us.
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (50:42):
Is this hour brought to you by Keystone Basement Systems,
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more clouds than Sun and I a forty five. Jack
White is going to bring some rock and roll to
Thanksgiving this year. The recent Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame inductee has been tapped to headline the halftime show
for the Thanksgiving Day matchup between his hometown Detroit Lions

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and the Green Bay Packers, and that is going to
be on November the twenty seventh.

Speaker 19 (51:06):
I just like how they're like, bad Bunny, isn't white enough?
Who can we get that's whiter? Jack White? Is there
anybody named white White? Yes, white white? No, that doesn't
work like that. I like the pick. I like the
pick for I'm a big fan of I don't know why.

(51:27):
I think I was sort of ambivalent towards him for
a long time and then now just he's just hung
around long enough where I've become really appreciative of him.
I think he's like a banner banner or standard bearer
for for rock music.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Well, what he is is a keeper of the flame.
And I love those guys.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
It's just like you need those guys to keep a
base level of rock and roll appreciation and performance going forward.
He Abbey and I saw him when he did the
club That was one of the best shows I ever saw.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
That broke my brain open because it was one of
those times like where the previous tour in which I
had an opportunity to see him, I think he was
at the Peterson Event Center, and so that was a
really big gig. And then the juxtaposition of seeing him
adjust his own amp, you know, sitting there and like
messing with the knobs and like leaning down to see

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if he could hear his cat, yeah exactly, and seeing
just such a smaller staff travel with him and going
back to like a club show felt like such a treat.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
And remember we talked to the Goda Beds who opened
for him, and they said that his staff was totally
cool to the opening band, and they're like, you know,
nice and accommodating and making sure that they felt appreciated
and comfortable with their stage setup because you have to
limit it, you know, when you're the opening band, and
typically when you're in that scenario, the attitude is this,

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you're lucky to be here, Stay out of our way
and Jack White's crew was instructed or just because these
are the people he surrounds them self with.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
They it was a one to eighty from that.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
They really made the opening bandfield supported and you guys, okay,
you got what you need.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
That's a big difference for it.

Speaker 19 (53:09):
I feel sometimes that could be more jarring than being
treated like if you're the opener. I've been the opener
for plenty of people. You're treated how you you know, Hey,
I'm here for ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
I don't really matter on this.

Speaker 19 (53:20):
Show if someone's effusively nice to you at that point,
aren't you like, what is what's going on here? Why
is everyone loved? Why is everyone being nice to me?
I'm not used to this. Actually, this is throwing my
energy off as an opener way more than it would
be if people were giving me, you know, all the
accouterments of the green room.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
And yeah, no, I see what you say, and yeah,
don't treat me as I am the lowly underling that
isn't worth a stum.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
On your shoe.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Spank me, spank me please.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
Jack White even went further than that, because he was
like putting all of those bands on socials and I
know that at the time, at least he didn't even
have a phone, so he probably wasn't running his own socials.
But every tour date that he did on that club show,
he would have a photo with him and the opening
band that he chose.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
For that date, and just a simple check them out, check.

Speaker 6 (54:10):
These guys, these guys out, like you don't have to
do that.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
Yeah, I love Jack White. I'm surprised he wants to
spend Thanksgiving doing that. But in Detroit, that's kind of
like if the Steelers asked, you know, the Clarks or
don Iris, they would they would do it.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Isn't that his?

Speaker 19 (54:25):
Like Second Place doesn't have that record store up in
Detroit Nationalsville.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
I think they have a branch in Detroit because they
likely do.

Speaker 6 (54:34):
And there's another like Theater that was in Detroit that
I think he had a big part in making sure
it's stat later.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
But yeah, Third Man is in Nashville, which I've I've
had the chance to go because the actual record store
is tiny, Yeah, and is a combination of record store
and like taxidermy because it's just exactly.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
What you think Americana. Yeah, it's like Jack White reupholstered
a chair sale.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
It's like a record and human teeth. We you know,
it's just like what you think is in Jack White's
house or something like that. What's odd about this Thanksgiving
halftime show? It's actually produced by Eminem and Eminem's manager.
So Eminem is the one who picked Jack White to

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do the halftime show.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
That's now I'm hoping for the mashup.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
Yeah, I'm hoping Eminem comes out and performs.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
So I don't know how.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
Seven Nation Army Yeah, mom spaghetti, yeah something.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
But not a lot of Eminem stuff, is you know?
Network television friendly? Well, the really relaxed their their standards lately.
Maybe we can talk about killing our wives on their
on the air now, all right? So that who do
they play? I don't even know who.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
It's the Lions and the Packers on the twenty seven
NFC Central matchup there and then for the Thanksgiving games.
That's actually not the only big performance to note. Post
Malone is going to headline the halftime show of the
Cowboys against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
Well, he's a.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
Perfect Dallas guy, isn't he. That's just like the post
Malone says it all. Yeah, bud light in hand, twenty
four to seven that screams Dallas all the time, wearing
a cat he'll have a cowboy hat on, a little
bit of a bell, bud light.

Speaker 21 (56:22):
In hands, right, Like the fact that he went country
and like it's just the amount of people who dip
their toe into the country well always surprises me because
I don't know whether I should give the country crowd
credit for accepting anybody or if it's like, are you
people that easily manipulated?

Speaker 4 (56:41):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (56:42):
Because it's like Steven Tyler's like, I put on a
country record, did you?

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Did you?

Speaker 21 (56:47):
Though?

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Don't you feel like was that an earnest effort or
were you just seeing if you hit a lottery ticket.

Speaker 19 (56:51):
Country music to me at this point is really a
toe hold and it's either a toe hold up or
a toe hold down. It's either like Taylor Swift like, hey,
I'm gonna climb over, I'm going to use this to
climb up the pop mountain, yes, or Miley Sire or
whoever you know, whoever else was sort of doing that
that type of stuff. But it's also on the way
down is I was a pop star and now I

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got nothing. So it's either country or Christmas album. Those
are the final two toe holds of the.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
UH war, The Country Christmas album, the Country Christmas album.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
That's right, the double took key, as my dad would say.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
The final one is Little John's gonna play the Ravens
and Cincinnati Bengals game.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
I want to hear his Christmas album, the Twelve Years
a Christmas. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
All three games are going to be nationally televised, beginning
with that Lions Packers game that'll be on Fox at
one o'clock.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
People are mad about Bad Bunny, but not Little John
showing us where the line we've been. Post Malone like it.
I guess it depends on what post Malone's singing. But yeah,
he's got so much different he could throw. He could
tailor a set.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
I just it's always blown me away that people will
tell me they're.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Like, oh my god, I stop posting alone. He was
so good. I'm like, really, like that shocks me. I
got not that against him.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
I don't know the stuff that well, but he just
didn't strike me as like his Like I thought he
was kid rock light and I have seen kid rock
and I thought it was like embarrassing because he did
this thing where he had all these badass musicians on
stage and he tried to do the Edgar Winner thing
where he went around and played every instrument on the stage.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
It's like Edgar Winner could do it, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 5 (58:32):
And Edgar like if you if you google Edgar Winner
Frankenstein performance Live, there's several television performances of Edgar Winner
doing Frankenstein. The notable one, if you want to go
right to a good one, is the Old Gray Whistle
Test and it is jaw droppingly funny because he's literally
running around the stage and he plays everything.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
At some point he's.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
Telling the other band members like move move, move move,
and then he like his hands are on the guitar
player's neck. You know, kid Rock did it. It's like
he couldn't really play the drums. You could get away
at the guitar.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
I know.

Speaker 19 (59:07):
I feel like there's a lot of artists that try
to do that where they'll come out with a guitar,
they'll play the first two chords and then whip it
around their back and it's just like he played guitar. Well,
he sort of did. He played Smoke on the Water. Yeah,
but you gotta have something in your hands. I mean,
it's hard to sit there with something in your hands.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
But post Malone always thought was like that, but it
turns out he's not.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
He's like much more actually talented and versatile.

Speaker 19 (59:32):
I also think that he it just seems like in
like he enjoys it and wants to perform and entertain
you in earnest because like he's been challenged, Like he
went on the Breakfast Club and like Charlemagne was in
there and he's just like, why are you a culture vulture?

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Like why?

Speaker 19 (59:48):
And he was just like, man, it's like I just
I don't know, like I'm not trying to start any ways,
Like I just like entertaining people. And he repeated that
so many times and so many different that he skated
over all the criticism because people were like, that's the harm.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Now he's a nice guy, one of the good ones. Yeah,
well he's a nice Yeah, he's like, yeah, he's a
good dude.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
Every time I see him, I always think, like, you know,
my dad, if he saw anybody with a tattoo above
their shoulders would be like that guy, I'll never get
a job.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
In a bank.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
And like now you are getting bank loans from people
who have tattoos under their eyes.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Yes. Absolutely.

Speaker 19 (01:00:20):
My point with that is always like, what makes you
think that guy wants to work in a bank?

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Yeah? Like that never hurts Jelled to me. What's it's
going to break his heart? Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:00:30):
He always had the vision of being CFO of Morgan
Stanley and now the neck tattoo ruined that path.

Speaker 6 (01:00:36):
That's so normal. Now going and be like I have
a deposit today, Oh Spider, is that you? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Your gauges look great?

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
God breezy this morning, more clouds than son. It's a
high of forty five today. Steelers over the Bengals yesterday.
Mike with more from yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
Is the fallout of the injury from Aaron Rodgers, how
bad is that left wrist? Jalen Warren's ankle, and a
look ahead at the Bears, as well as just breathing
a big sigh of relief after getting that much needed
win yesterday against the division foe, which puts the Steelers
now at six and four.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Browns can't do us any favors.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Shador Sanders god awful, unable to get to win over
the Ravens. He goes in after Dylan Gabriel goes down
with a concussion. So now the Steelers head two Chicago.
They're going to face the Bears this coming Sunday, and
that's a one o'clock game.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
Thank god. Oh man, I'm glad sometimes they can return
to normalcy.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Yeah, But then I think after that, after Thanksgiving is
the Bills, which I think is a four to twenty five.
Something tells me that one gets flexed to primetime. But anyways,
we'll cross that bridge when we come to a top
five plays of the game. Jerry d and Rob King
with a power hour of Steeler Talk right here on
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Today E Sports All Right, Mike pursued with the recap
of yesterday Steelers went over the Bengals thirty four to twelve,
and a couple of defensive scores adding to that big
gap thirty four to twelve. I thought it was going
to go down to the wire going into the second half.
It was only ten to six. As they went into

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the locker room there, Mike came ten to nine and
then they, yeah, came out without Aaron Rodgers and that
was the big news there for the Pittsburgh Steelers. The
crazy thing, how many drives did Mason Rudolph captain there
yesterday in that entire half of football?

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Not many too, was it too?

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
I think it's two because we had the defensive touchdowns,
keep talking, I'm looking at it. And we had a
one of the drives we had was super long, and
their drive that ended in a field goal.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
I believe they got.

Speaker 9 (01:03:20):
A kneel down at the end of the game, but yeah,
it was field goal touchdown. The sports that's not brought
to you by Bridgeville Pliants. The view from thirty thousand
feet depends on your perspective. If you want to get
excited about Steelers thirty four Bengals twelve, or if you're
going to be concerned about it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
The concern is the offense played.

Speaker 9 (01:03:40):
A defense that had given up seventy points in its
last five quarters seventy in its last five quarters, and
didn't like the Bengals up. Yeah, or if you want
to be optimistic about it, the defense took on an
offense that has been scorching the earth for a month
with Joe Flacco and shut it right down.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
Let's focus on the positive Mike, No need to dwell
in the negative this morning.

Speaker 9 (01:04:06):
Well, before we get to the positive, one of the
underrated components of what they did offensively yesterday. They played
Roman Wilson fifty seven percent of the snaps and Calvin
Austin twenty nine percent. I didn't get into the game
until late in the second possession. Now, they ran a

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lot of multi tight ends like they always do. But
even when it was two receivers. Remember at the start
of the season it was Metcalf and Austin. Yeah, and
if one of those guys got one on one, they
were going downtown. They are flailing for a second wide
receiver all of a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Sudden, All of a sudden, this has been since July.

Speaker 9 (01:04:48):
Well, No, I think Calvin was that guy when the
season started, and then he got hurt, and since he's
come back he's now on the outs for some reason.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
Well, he also screwed up on that one punt return yesterday,
just tried too hard to let that bounce into the
end zone and end up jumping on it on the
like seven yard line.

Speaker 9 (01:05:06):
I thought they were in pretty good shape early in
the year. Now you know this passing game.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Rolman Wilson ain't.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
He does not have the speed that Calvin Austin has
at number two. And I'm not sure why they would
be down on Calvin Austin other than if that injury
really has slowed him down. If that's the case, why
would you have him returning.

Speaker 9 (01:05:24):
Punts that It can't be the injury. Stay tuned on that.
But the defense was fantastic. Finally looked like and I'm
not even talking about scoring two touchdowns but just keeping
the clamps. Jamar Chase getting three catches on ten targets
for thirty yards is you can't do much better than that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
Well, I think discipline was the biggest problem for them
the last time they played the Bengals. It's literally just
stay in your gaps, play a position on the you know,
on the down for the down lineman, enable the secondary
to do what they do. They were so lost in
zone defense in that game that I think with Dougger
being there, with Ramsey now back at safety, that they

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could really just get back to some fundamentals and that
would be good enough.

Speaker 9 (01:06:11):
That's what the coaches keep talking about. Stability is the
word they keep throwing around. They have stability on the
back end. So you're not giving up the huge splash
place that killed them so many times.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Now, losing Jail and Ramsey after the spit incident, that
could have been devastating for the Steelers, No, Sleigh, I
think James Pierre is proven.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
He's the better option anyways right now.

Speaker 9 (01:06:37):
That's that's something to keep an eye on moving forward
as well, because what he did yesterday that deep post
to Jamar Chase, that's a touchdown of slaves in there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
I mean, the follow recovery is great, but that's the
one that stands out to me well.

Speaker 9 (01:06:52):
And the other one and he was tackling the catch
when they when they hit passes on him, he was
in the same area code and he was able to
get the guy on the ground. So it was a
fifteen yard game, not forty five, right, I forget what
game it was.

Speaker 19 (01:07:05):
But they were saying they were having trouble tackling and
Tomlin said, we need them. Tomlin was like, we need
the second guy making the play on the ball, first
guy wrapping up. And that's what I noticed yesterday, Like
Patrick Wilson or Peyton Wilson, it's always trying to, you know,
make that sort of splash play. He was wrapping people
up and letting somebody else come in and try to
punch the ball out and that probably paid dividends.

Speaker 9 (01:07:26):
It's what they've been after defensively all season and not
quite Frankly, guys, that was my biggest concern going into
the game. I thought they'd score in the thirties because
everybody does against the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
M hmm. Now they kind of did it unconventionally with
the two defensive touchdowns. Yeah, but I didn't know if
they could keep these guys under.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
Forty and number one offense in the league since Joe
Flacco got.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
On one touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
It was what they have been after Chace Brown one
yard shart of one hundred yesterday, though. I mean, they
did make some headway on the running game once again.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
They did, but if you take the white look what
good did it do exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:08:03):
That's like a pride thing for defense. Don't give up
a hundred yard rusher. Don't give up a hundred yards
rushing as a team when you're playing those guys who cares.
I would rather than give the ball to Chase Brown
than throw it to fricking number one or number five.

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
It looked like Higgins had more opportunities than Jamar Chase
did yesterday, and I think like part of Chase's frustration
was boiling over with Ramsey.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
I think that Ramsey Ramsey, I.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Think effectively, even though he actually got taken out of
the game. I think maybe he did a better job
of taking from the Jamar Chase out of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
And again, it wasn't anything exotic.

Speaker 9 (01:08:36):
They didn't come up with some kind of reinvention till
they just played your stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
They did a lot of the.

Speaker 9 (01:08:44):
Not just the three outside linebackers thing that Benzi was
talking about, which contributed to the Dugger interception, but they
played a lot of that three inside linebacker look as well.
I'm a big fan of that as opposed to their
standard nickel. A lot of what Chase Brown did was
running into the nickel, which they've had problems with how

(01:09:05):
many seasons in a row, Like you know, you put
your pass defense in, the other team doesn't cooperate and
runs the ball and then you get gashed. But when
they got those three inside linebackers, I think that gives
them a better chance to defend both. And a lot
of times they do that with one defensive lineman, or
they'll sometimes they'll take out a defensive back. But just
having three really good players on the field at that

(01:09:27):
second level that can red react and do either.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
Well, sometimes you end up with Jack Sawyer covering t
Higgins though.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
Yeah, but they.

Speaker 9 (01:09:36):
Got schemed on that because it was two tight ends,
so they had the basin and the problem with that
play to me was the rush didn't get there. Because
that's a long developing play. Sawyer can run with them
on a shallow cross and he might get a five
yard catch. But Trent Green was doing the color analyst
role yesterday. I watched a lot of the game when

(01:09:57):
I went home last night, and Green was of the
opinion that Higgins just kind of read that and turned
it up like that wasn't even the design, like they
got they got screwed on it because the rush didn't
get there. Uh, they kind of made up for it
on the Dugger interception because they left the middle of
the field open intentionally. They had Patrick Queen out with

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a tight end on the wing with Joey Porter who
was on the wide receiver, and then Douger kind of
dropped into the hole. As the play developed, Flacco thought
he had the middle and he didn't have the middle.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
Why did that look like a bad interception?

Speaker 12 (01:10:33):
Though?

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
If you were a Bengals fan, you were like, yeah,
threw it right to it if.

Speaker 9 (01:10:37):
They kind of dared to throw it, yeah, and just
pulled it off and then great job, I heard it
getting downfield, providing me after walk. Yeah, And I just
want to point out that t Higgins chased that play
for about fifteen yards and said effort, effort, effort, And
you know Dougger had to slow up and kind of
read the block herbing and then yeah, then stop and

(01:10:58):
work his way around Jamar Chase to five yard because
Chase was hustling, and run run to the ball. No
matter what, run to the ball, something can happen.

Speaker 19 (01:11:08):
Dougger's last five yards were they you can only be
described as a saunter. And that that little sort of
pause step that he took and he basically just like
side step, just walked into the end zone.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
That was smooth.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
There was a lot of both pick sixes were real
smooth or the pick six and then the fumber recovery.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
Well, hold on, James Pierre.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
My only gripe with him is we don't have enough
dbs for him to be doing flips into the end zone.
I agree, twisted in all different directions like that would
be the worst way to knock yourself out for the season.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
We need you JP. Yeah, who knew that, right?

Speaker 15 (01:11:44):
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
Well, maybe it's Santa Samuel coming in next week, if
that's possible. I'm not sure why he didn't get the
hat this week. Other quickly games a lot last September. Yeah,
the other guy I'm going to continue to harp on
or kis Valdez scantling. I don't know if he's the
answer or not, but they need to find out because
if you're playing, if you're playing Roman Wilson's sixty two

(01:12:08):
percent of the snaps, I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
All right, Abby will have your news coming up at
the top of the hour.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
Churchill has a coyote problem and parents be warned foul
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Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
Top five plays of the game on the way. Jerry
Dulac joining us at eight forty five. Rob King with
a power hour of Steeler Talk, plus Jeff and I
Jeff Conkole hanging with us this morning. We'll talk a
little bit about the Ken Burns American Revolution documentary, which
episode one was last night?

Speaker 19 (01:12:34):
Episode one. Set your DVRs. It's important for America that
you watch this. It is it's just good. Yeah, anything
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Pittsburgh Steelers thirty four Cincinnati Bengals twelve before we give
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He is drooling, that's windy, Yeah, a spit.

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I'll tell you what. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
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Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Anyways, it is the DV morning show.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
You're Radio Home with the Pittsburgh Steelers one a two
point five d V E. Time for the top five
plays of the game. And let's start at number five
with the four mentioned kerfuffle between Ramsey and Chase. Mike,
This was interesting. The Steelers stop them on third and short.
I thought they got the first down. Joe Flacco takes

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them up to go for it on fourth and short
after Ramsey and Jamar Chase had already gone at it
once and I'm thinking in my head, all right, they're
trying to draw them off side here and then they'll
if they don't do that, then they'll throw the challenge flag.
Because you know, if you don't have to waste the

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challenge flag if you're wrong, because look to me and
Jean's territory agreed. They got the first down there, didn't
get called that way, and they didn't need to challenge
it because of what happened next.

Speaker 9 (01:16:47):
Always a good idea to challenge those plays, though, where
nobody has any idea where the freaking.

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
Ball is, well, it's like, give you to get that caller.
You don't.

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
They're not gonna change it, not always, not always, but
at any rate. Number five Spitgate, hard count.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
For Flacco, still waiting, touches both sides of the helmet again,
settles back under center. Crowd is roaring and act for
sure three two one and the Bengals will not snap it.
They'll call a time out instead, and the crowd roaring
its approval of the Steelers defense just only it's water
with all those different looks.

Speaker 24 (01:17:24):
All the different formations you saw Cup.

Speaker 13 (01:17:26):
And now.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
Again. Gotta be careful. I hope both of them don't
get this.

Speaker 24 (01:17:33):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
I don't need Jalen Ramsey sell I don't care if
Jim R. Chase does. But geez, this is.

Speaker 24 (01:17:38):
Another one on both Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Yeah Chase, Yeah, it doesn't have his helmet on.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Yeah, they're both.

Speaker 24 (01:17:48):
We're probably gonna lose both guys in this. Jaylen Ramsey
getting getting taken away by four different Steeler players and
Jamar Chase no helmet on his own side in this situation.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Cam Hey, we're trying to plead his case to the
referees as well.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
It's good to call here from Bill Vinovich, a very
important call. Now, hands on Hipsy doesn't appear as if
he's quite red.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
Hands On Hipster Defense number five.

Speaker 20 (01:18:19):
Number five has been disqualified for throwing a punch.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
In the official we are hearing a serenade by this
Steelers fans here.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
I guess we can call that the immacu spit ejection.
That's nice. There you go.

Speaker 19 (01:18:35):
The defense held its water and Jamar Chase expelled some moisture.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
That's the equilibrium of the universe. It's the saliva of
the fittest.

Speaker 10 (01:18:45):
And you know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
That was at number five.

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
At number four, of course that would matter, not because
the Steelers bring in Chuck Clark and then they end
up getting another defensive touchdown after that. I thought that
was advantage Bengal for sure, Mike. It didn't turn out
that way, by the way, No that was terrifying the
losing Ramsey. Yes, yes, I agree with you, But in
part it didn't end up mattering because James Pierre had

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himself a day at number four.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Now this was early in the game.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
A ball over the top Jamar Chase is open and
Flacco throws a perfect ball and but four James Pierre,
with this brilliant defensive effort, Steelers might have foud themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
In a lot of trouble early Al swirling as Flacco
gets the snap back to pass looking Goeta loft deep
intended for Chase, patted away. Beautiful play by James Pierre
right down the middle of the field. Pierre had it
judged all the way. Great coverage by.

Speaker 9 (01:19:45):
Pierre, textbook, teach tape. That's the guy they cut at
the end of training camp. It's had him around for
a number of years because he's a great special teams player.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:19:56):
Now they did bring him back quickly, and some of
that initial cut might have been you know, roster a.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Lot of times that's just a little moving the deck
chairs around.

Speaker 9 (01:20:02):
But nobody was ever talking about James Pier is the
guy who was going to really help the defensive.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Quarterback at number three.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
This would be in the fourth quarter, three point forty
left in the game. Macho Mason in for the ailing
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Kenneth Gainwell gets it done again.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Back to pass, looking left the game on the left flat,
game Well shrugs off a tackle and gets into the
end zone for a Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown that puts the
Steelers up twenty seven to twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
MIC and that was pretty much all she wrote. You know, the.

Speaker 9 (01:20:38):
Staff has t shirts with a lot of tomlinisms that
they like to wear, and one of them is dgb
TTF and it stands for don't get beat to the flat. Alright,
Kenneth game will beat the Bengals pappy linebackers to the
flat all day, all day.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
Two touchdowns, same kind of play.

Speaker 9 (01:20:56):
Although it is really interesting that after a week when
the coaching staff was being assaulted for playing Gainwell more
snaps than Warren against the Chargers, Gamewall becomes the.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Start Well out of necessity.

Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
Though Warren was playing great until the injury right at
number two.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Mount Washington erupted yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:21:17):
The Tiger Country was talking about Darnell Washington yesterday because
of this play.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Back to pass looking fires over the middle of the field,
complete the Darna wash Oh. He shut down a man
and then lowers his shoulder. You're rumbling down the left sideline.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
He shrugged him off.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
With a stiff arm and got down the left sideline
inside the thirty five yard line of the Bengals out of.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
The thirty one Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
We've been wondering why they don't use this guy more
often because he is impossible to bring down.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
BOI did yesterday prove that, you.

Speaker 9 (01:21:55):
Know, you can lob it to him and he can
go up and get it, and he can just throw it
to him conventionally, and he can just go al fat Albert.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
On these feb.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
Obviously fat avert. Yeah, he be on ozepic now.

Speaker 6 (01:22:08):
So no, he's taking souls with him wherever he goes.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
Even on that play where he was trying to hurdle,
imagine Darnell Washington jumping four feet in the air coming
at You also talk about nightmare fuel for middle linebackers.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Not good. We have to stop the hurdling though.

Speaker 5 (01:22:27):
Jalen Warren tried to hurtle early in the game and
he ended up jump kicking Turner, and I mean I
canna end up bad for everybody at all the number
one play of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
You know, if you were to wager early in the
game on a.

Speaker 5 (01:22:40):
Kyle Dugger interception, they didn't believe you'd see that because
it was plus seven hundred. You know, defensive touchdown for
the Steelers anytime TV plus six hundred, because that's unlikely
to guess what in one felt swoop. Kyle Duggar makes
both things happen. The newly acquired Steelers stalwart I like

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this guy now wearing number twenty nine, makes the play
of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Flacco gets a snap back to pass. Here there's bringing
five flack over the middle of field that's picked off.
It's Dugger. Dugger to the forty yard line, racing across
the fifty to the forty. Look at crook block from
Herbi gets a tricking down the left sideline Fissness and
waltz is into the end zone. Dougger a seventy two

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yard intercept in return for a touchdown for the Steeler.

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
As much as it's been going on at safety, for
the Steelers to have him come in and do that, Mike,
this is the stability that they've been craving.

Speaker 9 (01:23:40):
You know, I'll watched the little Dougger take when they
acquired him, and I didn't see anything that I thought
would leave me to believe he'd be a needle mover
or a different just just a guy playing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
A spot wrong. What a play and what a call
by Kinger.

Speaker 9 (01:23:55):
The way he is able to inject every detail into
a play and keep up with it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
I love it. He's the best.

Speaker 5 (01:24:02):
Steelers win thirty four to twelve, and now it's on
to Cincinnati to face the Bears this Sunday on the
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Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Down he goes, he is sacked by Nick Kervig back
at the to five yard line.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
Oh yeah, huge sack from Nick Herbig, who had a
great game yesterday. And uh, I believe that knocked them
out of Uh that put them back and made himself
for a fuel goal on that one. If I'm correct,
I think was that a third quarter sack? Was that
earlier in the game. I'm confusing everything now, but I'm
pretty sure it was. At any rate, it was a
big sack. Herbig looked good. We like Herbi. Will Heismith's

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be back next week? Who knows? Remains to be seen.
A big weekend for you here, it's the DV Morning Show.
Big weekend in Pittsburgh because not only was there the
Bengals Steelers game yesterday, but college game Day came down
to the North Shore.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
Abby. You saw videos of this. It was so much.

Speaker 6 (01:25:43):
It was all Pat McAfee red face screaming. Yin'splosion.

Speaker 5 (01:25:48):
See when he walked into the the the I think
it was when he walked into the game, someone handed
him a beer and he cracked it and shugged it
on into television and I'm like, see Lou Holtz never
did that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:05):
What we forgot to do.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
This is why Pat resonates with the people, and Rhys
Davis gave him the introduction over on the North Shore,
and Pat did a wonderful look at us here in Pittsburgh.
Open to ESPN's College Game Day broadcast.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
You McAfee, everybody.

Speaker 20 (01:26:30):
I think I can say this because I was born
and raised in the East Hills of this city, in Plumboro, Pennsylvania,
where the bawler's ball and the players playing we're all
Mustangs here and shout out to them. Welcome to beautiful Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
People. Now, when you.

Speaker 20 (01:26:51):
Hear the word Pittsburgh, there's probably numerous things that come
to your mind. Certainly one of them has to be
that this is a tough people time. Okay, that's because
we're a blue collar town, and everybody knows that we
birth basically every other city with the steel that we
created here. But right over our shoulders here is the

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Alleghany River, and then on the other side over.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
There is the Benonga Halo.

Speaker 13 (01:27:17):
They turned together to form the Ohio River, which is
the point and the most beautiful.

Speaker 20 (01:27:23):
Picture us sitting in the United States of America, I
will say, since the Alleghany and the mononga Halo come together.

Speaker 13 (01:27:31):
For the Ohio River, we birthed Ohio too.

Speaker 20 (01:27:34):
You're welcome for that in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. But you also
think to yourself, well, that's a damn good sports town.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
And you'd be right now, it's not just a sports town.

Speaker 20 (01:27:44):
Even though we got the history in abundance.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
We even have baseball history.

Speaker 13 (01:27:48):
Paul Skins just one to say young, he's the best
player in baseball. That's it.

Speaker 20 (01:27:52):
And although the team might be obsolute, yeah that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
Wow, Yeah, what's going on with that?

Speaker 13 (01:28:03):
Well, what's going on with the pirates is they don't
spend any money.

Speaker 20 (01:28:05):
So they never actually win, you see. And we got
Paul speed so we would like to go on in
historic run at PNC Park, the most beautiful ballpark in
all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
Now, I gotta say, so, how long was that? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:28:21):
Oh, he's not even halfway done, but that was two minutes.
Does he get around and mentioning pit everything? Well, they
talk a little more bass the Notre Dame game, Yeah,
they talk a little more baseball. And there was a
sell the team. Yeah, the banner being flown around.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
On the prop plane.

Speaker 5 (01:28:38):
Yeah, so nutting was just taken strays yesterday and I
loved it. But the funny thing was is that Pat
was talking about how beautiful it is.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
And look, we were all here on Saturday. You saw it.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
You saw what the weather was like. It was brown,
it was it was brown outside. It was a full
brown out. Looked like a Civil War photo on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (01:29:00):
Air and right colorized.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
Yes, I feel like I feel like the Game Day
camera like would have panned to the right and just
seen a farmer with hogs like that. That's just what
it seemed like. It would have would have been, Like,
that's what that's the vibe we were giving off on
National TV. Yeah, just a hog farmer with a lot
of tobacco, just wondering what the big deal was. It

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was not like southern California or Miami. It was most
decidedly western Pennsylvania in November.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
No one knew how to dress that day.

Speaker 19 (01:29:33):
It looked freezing out but it was like sixty six degrees.
So everyone's wearing like parkas but like tying them around
their waist.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
Right and everything. It was just bad, bad look over.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
So, I mean, I also don't know if it was
because of the way they set game day up, but
it didn't look like there are as many people that
they usually draw off for game day on college campuses.
And I'm guessing there were a lot of people down
there who went and they saw how it was set
up and you could only get so many people in

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that area, and they went, well, f it, We'll go
over to Tequila Cowboy, you know what I mean, right,
because what it was like right in front of like
the Al Dean's Bar used to be Vetic's.

Speaker 19 (01:30:11):
Like that's in that little kind of area between the
mister Rogers Studio and uh and the Veterans Bridge, and yeah,
they had to pack in like half of it, and
they were ship they were just let's be honest too.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Our rivers aren't picturesque rivers. They're they're they're they're little.

Speaker 5 (01:30:25):
Chocolatey yeah, simmer years. Yeah, not that they're ever like
Caribbean blue, right right exactly. So yeah, some people say
let's get the river in there. I'm saying, pan over,
get some foliage. What foliage is left, Let's get that dude,
coward didn't open for it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
Did you hear this?

Speaker 5 (01:30:42):
It was I know this is like propaganda, but I
love when they do these kinds of open because they're
using all these beautiful drone shots of Pittsburgh. This was
a much more flattering look at the Pittsburgh landscape, uh
than the actual what live footage was.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
We're on here. You want our football players to be
stronger than steel round here, right off the bat, with
a temper that burns hotter than cold cold.

Speaker 25 (01:31:12):
The quarterback that's gone off as unstoppable as a river, no,
make that three rivers, or from Friday night lights to
Saturday high noon to Monday night football. This is where
the steel curtains surrounds the NFL. From me and Joe Green,
Terry Bradshaw and Frank o'harris.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
Still not mention.

Speaker 25 (01:31:40):
To Jerome Bennis, Ben Roethlisberger, Hines Ward and Troy.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
Palm Out, none of whom.

Speaker 25 (01:31:47):
Meanwhile up the hill on four pit pan men seven
Marino Corino bat.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
And later the sticky fingers of Larry Fitzgerald. Oh for bet,
he's a double coverage.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (01:32:04):
You can't stop that.

Speaker 25 (01:32:07):
You're rocking doll Aaron Donald and the cancer stopping cleats
of James Connor.

Speaker 5 (01:32:13):
All right, So yeah, then they get into the thing
I think Cowers a strange choice for this one because
is he associated with Pittsburgh.

Speaker 19 (01:32:20):
Yes, but let's be honest, like he's just like I
love Pittsburgh. Everything about Pittsburgh. The people are great, everything's great.
And the second I wasn't financially obligated to be here,
I moved to North Carolina as soon as my contract
is out. You people are crazy. I can't see why
anyone stays here. I currently live in Manhattan. Not a

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lot of pitt talk, which was weird. And then pitt
showed why when they got smacked by Notre Dame. Unfortunately,
but their coach didn't do many favors leading up to
that game. When their dowsy going.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Hey, we can lose one hundred and ten to nothing,
and who cares, right, Well, okay, she did give them ten.

Speaker 9 (01:33:01):
They almost got half a hundred, so probably could have
effectually were interested in that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
Not an outstanding performance by the pitt Panthers on Saturday.

Speaker 21 (01:33:08):
That was.

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
That was a bad football game. A couple of drops
on the first possession picked six and they had a
touchdown got overturned.

Speaker 5 (01:33:15):
I saw that Heinzel had what's his name and he
dropped it and what was the attendance, like, was it
a sellout? He was a sellout, Okay, so that's probably
rare territory for Pitt two. It was. I mean, we
looked at ticket prices on Friday and it was two
hundred bucks to get good seats and you can sit
up in the five hundreds for like one hundred and
fifty or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
That's still doing pretty good.

Speaker 5 (01:33:38):
No. Yeah, they looked there was a big demand for
that game, but I felt like it was mostly Notre Dame.
My friends who were there said they were sickened by
all the Notre Dame chains that kind of dominated the.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
The That's why it was a sellout. Yeah, exactly, Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
I know you didn't watch this, but Jeff Conkle, who's
sitting in with us this morning, he and I both
saw the debut of the New Burns documentary American Revolution.
And you know, Jeff, I love anything that Ken Burns does.
I could watch just about anything that he has. Peter
Coyote nar rate you put some soft violin music. Peter
Coyote starts talking. I'm in I'm transfixed. I'm not even

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looking at my phone. I am just staring at it,
and I don't know what it is, but it lures
me in and I feel like I'm a part of
the world that he's talking about.

Speaker 19 (01:34:23):
I love ken Burns, and then I love that someone
in his life finally told him he needs to change
his haircut.

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
He four years had bangs as a man. Well, you
can't have bangs as.

Speaker 19 (01:34:34):
A fifty five year old man and be taken seriously.
So someone said, comb your hair, get your natural hake
hair color, quit the Grecian formula or the shoe polish
or whatever you got going on in there, and be
taken seriously. We had a long, long weekend and we
had to drive up to and back from Penn State
with my kids and in laws last night, and the
second that we got home, I made my children go

(01:34:57):
downstairs and watch the first hour of the ken Burns documentary.
I feel like, you know, I feel like there's a
lot of history that that just that they don't care about.

Speaker 5 (01:35:06):
Like kids don't know. I mean not that you when
you're in fourth grade, you don't care about history. But
I'm trying to make them do it. And the way
that they started muskets firing cannonballs, they immediately I've never
seen them be quiet for an hour and like not
have to fidget around or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
It did hold their attention.

Speaker 19 (01:35:22):
Now, when they started talking about the implications of the
agrarian southern farming system and it's uh in its relationship
with French taxation systems, then they got a little antsy,
but generally speaking it held their attention.

Speaker 5 (01:35:34):
I was surprised that the British general Pitt Cairn hated colonists.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
I'm like, we named a place after a meal.

Speaker 19 (01:35:42):
Well, there's a lot of people like like Braddock was
a famous loser, like he he lost, but they you know,
every everything's named after Braddock and you know, so that's
that's you start realizing how many names get the peppered
around there that that you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
McAfee didn't even bring that up. Yeah, right, yeah, where's
his sense of history?

Speaker 15 (01:36:01):
Right?

Speaker 19 (01:36:01):
Cawaren said nothing about it. There is nothing about Pittkaren
or Braddock or anybody.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
But the funny thing is in most ken Burns documentaries
there is some footage or pictures. At least even in
the Civil War one there are photographs. This is pre everything,
so all you have is paintings and settings.

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
Hey, I can't recreate the right, they didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:36:29):
So you're sitting there watching the ken Burns effect of
the camera panning over a painting and they're.

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
Talking and it somehow I am still in that world.

Speaker 5 (01:36:40):
I am in the painting, and it's not as effective
as when, like the Vietnam One, you're seeing footage and
it's really drawn you in. But this dude is like,
here's a chessboard and it's slowly going across the chess board.

Speaker 4 (01:36:52):
I'm like, I'm watching a chess board. I'm listening.

Speaker 19 (01:36:54):
But don't you think of the fact that there are
no hard images of that time allows you to lose
yourself in the narrative of the of the revolution and
of the ideals of it, because there's no there there's
really no reality that you can see perceived on it.
Like the best thing that we have from George Washington,
if him as a young man, is like an oil painting,

(01:37:15):
and so we have to imagine this person. You can
you can fill up that cup because it's empty.

Speaker 5 (01:37:20):
I kept seeing George Washington portraits and I kept thinking, like.

Speaker 4 (01:37:25):
It's just not how I picture him. I don't know,
it's just he doesn't look like the way in my
mind's eye.

Speaker 5 (01:37:29):
What he looked like is entirely. Did he look soft, Yeah,
he looks soft. He looks soft because he was kind
of both soft and hard. Yeah, well he was also
I forgot that he was in the British Army, Oh
very much so, and he.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
Was pissed they didn't give him a promotion.

Speaker 5 (01:37:42):
Yeah, and so really he's just the jaded guy who
didn't get paid and he took it out on the
British afterwards.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
But all of the agents, yes, he's the kirk Flood
of patriots.

Speaker 5 (01:37:53):
He had a lot of locker room material, a lot
a lot of bulletin board material there. But that's the
interesting thing, because I don't know, like the revolution is
the one thing where like my knowledge of the American
Revolution is restricted to schoolhouse. Rock Man shot her around
the world of the revolution. Yeah, that's about it. And
when you hear all of these the stamp back, the towns,

(01:38:15):
and now I couldn't have told you what those things are,
so to hear them spelled out, it's like, all right,
this is all making sense.

Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
Okay, I see why we were pissed.

Speaker 5 (01:38:22):
But the big revelation for me from the first episode
of it was the idea that everybody that lived in
this country, the colonists, not Native Americans, considered themselves British
and they loved it. At first, They're like, this is great,
We're part of Britain. Britain kicks ass. And then eventually
they're like, fire Tomlin, you know what I mean. Like

(01:38:43):
it was, it was that level of schizophrenic. And I
thought one historian was on there, and I thought she
had this great coat.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
Quote.

Speaker 19 (01:38:49):
She's like, we tend to sanitize the uh patriots and
like what they were impressed people and every and they
were just respond to British tyranny. And she was like,
let me put it this way, like they had to
pay a penny more for paper, and they started boiling
tar and dumping it on people. They're like that's a

(01:39:12):
teeny bit of an overreaction to that. They're like, you
ever have tar boiling hot tar?

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
And in grade school you'd hear about tar and feather
made it look like a chicken.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
Three skin grafts, and like, I mean, it was horrifying.

Speaker 5 (01:39:29):
They were burning tax collectors houses and like, you know,
pillaging these crazy neighbors. They're doing this with their neighbors,
and the tarn feather part is so funny because I
thought the exact same thing. The guy couldn't get out
of bed for eight weeks, Like I never thought about
the fact that it was boiling tar they were putting on.

Speaker 4 (01:39:46):
These people are like burning alive, and they're like, now
their feathers on them. Now their feathers on them.

Speaker 7 (01:39:51):
Ha ha.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
Like you were like a chicken. You were total psychopaths. Psychopaths.
It's like forefathers, that's where we come from. You want
to stage a revolution, you gotta break a few eggs.

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
Yeah, yeah, real make somebody look like a chicken. But
apparently you can watch that whole thing. Yeah, on the
PBS apps. So right, you guys said you only watched
the first episode, but you can.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
Binge, and you can binge it. I don't want to
do that.

Speaker 19 (01:40:17):
I need to take it in time and digest each
I feel like it's set up like that for you
to take it and synthesize in your mind and then
go back and watch it the next night. When you
dig a tall task to watch it five nights a week,
it's like an eight hour thing.

Speaker 5 (01:40:29):
I think when you think of Paul Revere, did you
think of it that he was one of two guys
or was it always in my mind's eye, it was
always just like Paul.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
Revere did it. It was all Paul Revere. He's the one.

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
You know, the British are coming, The British are coming.
It's like, actually they had two guys doing the exact
same thing.

Speaker 19 (01:40:44):
Yeah, And also like big deal, like how far can
you ride on a horse at night? Like fifteen miles?

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
It's like it's like if he notified all from Pittsburgh
to Cranberry, Like, wow, what.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
A what a service you did? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
Really, I don't know if it was that pig of
a robby already there. Yeah, but it's it's great and
you should watch it. And also I never think about
the fact that, like these Reds are like sitting there
with their neighbors and they're holding muskets and they're like, oh,
this is kind of scary, hilarry. And then he's like yeah, yeah,
you know, but you know, I mean, how bad could
it be? And then like a ball of lead goes
through his brain next to you, he's like, ah.

Speaker 19 (01:41:19):
Yeah, he's my grocer. You really not like paying for
stamps for that for that to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
Yeah, the Stamp Act. That was another one. I know
the name. I could not have told you what it was.

Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
Yeah, it was literally they had to have a stamp
from the British like government. This has approved for every
single piece of paper they used. Well, I thought it
was about mailing things. I didn't realize there wasn't a
post office. Don't be embarrassed about that. Everyone thought that
for probably there's like eight people that don't actually know it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
Everybody else is under the same uh great offices City
of Boston. One of the reasons I love it is
because it's steeped in.

Speaker 5 (01:41:57):
By the way episode one mic they just pick Boston
as full of psychopaths. Yeah, kind of like now, yes,
but they have the Freedom Trail. Massholes were around since
seventeen hundreds. They somehow they were still wearing red sox
hats back.

Speaker 9 (01:42:12):
Then you go on the Freedom Trails paint on the
street and you go to various points of interest where
the Boston massacre was, and different churches and state houses
and whatnot, and there's bars everywhere, and you just take
your own sweet time and oh there's a two hundred
year old cemetery. Yep, there's a bar. Yeah, there's where

(01:42:34):
the Boston massacar happened. There's a bar you just kill
a whole day and you look up history and get
looped up.

Speaker 5 (01:42:42):
You can go to the burial site of the first
five people killed by the British.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
I mean, that's that's pretty Also.

Speaker 9 (01:42:50):
Sam adams grave is it's in an old cemetery obviously,
and his headstone is right by the sidewalk. There's a
sidewalk and a fence, like an iron fence, and then
Sam adams Grave. And across the street is a bar
with a sign that says proudly serving Sam Adams. You know,
might be the epicenter of America.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Apparently he was a crappy brewer. Yeah you fail the
brewer that they said in the thing. Yeah, that's wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:43:17):
Maybe somebody took over for him. Obviously, we'll let ken
Burns know when we come back. Mike pursued and more.
On yesterday, Steelers win over the Bengals thirty four to twelve.
Jerry do Like joining us and Rob came with a
power hour of Steeler talk. Jeff Conkole hanging out with
us this morning, just you know everything that the changes
here on the show with Bill's departure came so quickly

(01:43:39):
for us. We're just gonna have some friends sit in
with us over the next couple of weeks. And yeah,
we'll figure out what to do next eventually. But thanks
for coming in today, dud.

Speaker 4 (01:43:46):
Yeah, I appreciate It's Monday, everybody, It's not Wednesday. Ken
Burns will be in tomorrow.

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Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
This report guy, you said, now, throw feathers on them.
It was probably like the chocolate peanut butter thing just
Happenstace torture. It was a wagon full of chickens driving
by it. Oh my god, what did we think of
this years ago? Jeez, Louise Nathaniel, you are a sicko.
You got feathers? Oh my talk.

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
Mike's got a sports update for you Steelers over the
Bengals yesterday at Akroscher Stadium thirty four to twelve.

Speaker 9 (01:44:47):
Sports I brought to you by Bridgeville Appliances and Steelers
were leading the Bengals when Mason Rudolph replaced Aaron Rodgers
in the third quarter yesterday, and as it turned out,
they never trailed.

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
So it's not as if Rudolph saved the day.

Speaker 9 (01:44:59):
But to Mike Tomlin, Rudolph did exactly what the Steelers
expect of.

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
Him in such situations. Mason's proven in the past what
he showed today.

Speaker 10 (01:45:11):
That's why we value him as a member of this
collective and appreciative of his play.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
Rogers has a left wrist issue.

Speaker 9 (01:45:20):
According to Adam Schefter, the initial concern was that Rogers
has a quote slight break in his left wrist. According
to Ian Rappaport, Rogers is indicated to people close to
him that he'll be back soon.

Speaker 19 (01:45:33):
When you're forty one, there's no slight break in your wrist,
like that's just shot.

Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
I think, I don't know.

Speaker 19 (01:45:40):
I have a hard time believing that that's gonna that's
gonna be a minimal injury.

Speaker 5 (01:45:44):
Can't he play with a light cast on it? He's
got to take snaps, Yeah, slam that ball.

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
Back up. They're pretty good when you're over center.

Speaker 9 (01:45:53):
Oh, running back Kenneth Gaywell another backup who took center
stage yesterday and helped lead the Steelers charge. They absolutely
got what they expected there.

Speaker 10 (01:46:09):
And again, Well may play affter play for us winning
in the flat and so forth, but a lot of
guys did. I thought our tight end run after we
moved in, and Darnell in.

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
Particular, was really good.

Speaker 10 (01:46:21):
You gotta be in a throw short and run long
sometimes win conversions in that fashion, flip fields in that fashion,
and so there was a lot of guys that contributed
to that.

Speaker 9 (01:46:33):
Yeah, the tight ends were particularly torn out Washington. I
think he had the crowd going every time he caught
the ball. People were anticipating a stiff farm or a
bowling ball type of move. Pat Farmer's got one target.
He turned it into a nineteen yard catch and never
went back to him. I don't understand this. I knew
what was going on there, being told Arthur Smith loves
tight ends in life. One newns Washington. As for Gainwell,

(01:46:59):
Tomlin and the offensive staff not surprised, but Mason Rudolph
acknowledged he's gotten a real Kenneth Gainwell education since the
two teamed up in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 11 (01:47:10):
I knew he was a Super Bowl champion last year,
and I knew his name, but I didn't know how
versail and how great of a pass catcher he was.
He is and runs the ball extremely hard like Jalen Warren.
But he did a great job today and you know,
the extra effort to get on the end zone on
that touchdown passing the flat was huge.

Speaker 9 (01:47:32):
Steelers next play the Bears in Chicago. Ravens beat the Browns,
so there's still just one game behind, but they were
not exactly impressive and beating Cleveland twenty three to sixteen.
Devin Bush had a pick six in that game.

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
I saw it. Yeah, yeah, not afraid of the dog anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:47:52):
Baltimore underwhelming, but Cleveland got reduced to Shador Sanders in
the second half at quarterback and he was hideous.

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
I just can't look.

Speaker 5 (01:48:01):
Dylan Gabriel is not good, but Shadoor Sanders clearly was
exactly what all of the detractors have said about him.
And Kevin Stefanski has been getting absolutely destroyed by the
Browns fan base for not playing Shadoor Sanders before this
point did they feel satisfied that he might know what

(01:48:22):
he's doing there.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
Last night so they watched that.

Speaker 9 (01:48:25):
I saw a tweet from somebody last night. I forget who,
but the tweet was worse, to the effect of I'm
starting to think maybe it wasn't a conspiracy with Sanders.

Speaker 5 (01:48:36):
Yeah, I mean, he just he has athletic ability, no doubt.
He's taller than Gabriel. So right away he's seeing over
the line, and you know, he was able to hit
somebody underneath, and I thought, like, all right, well that
alone makes him look better than Gabriel right there. I
would just use him in a real simple offense. The
problem is he can't read anything, and he turns around
and runs backwards twenty yards and just seeds so much grass.

Speaker 9 (01:48:58):
It's crazy. You can't understand why he's not a success.
I mean, the guy was good enough to make Colorado
mediocre and beat nobody again.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
Yeah, well we might be facing him. Yeah, Braat like it.
I like it bears first.

Speaker 9 (01:49:17):
That's a crazy I think they're seven to three now
after winning yesterday, and they gave up forty two to
Cincinnati on November the two and their quarterback Caleb Williams.
He will make some plays that make you think, holy cow,
is this guy good. And he will make some plays
that make you think this guy has no idea what
he's doing, all in the same game.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
Which is why what we were talking about earlier, the
fundamentals of defense for the Steelers paying off for them
against somebody like Flacco yesterday. You'd think, if you can
just stay discipline against Caleb Williams, he's going to gouge
you here or there, but you should be able to
stop them from doing anything significant.

Speaker 9 (01:49:57):
The podcast fundamentals, Yeah, keep him in the pocket. I
think he got a real good shot. It's funny the
way to steal season is progressing. You know, Aaron Rodgers
and others have said, don't ride the roller coaster, don't
ride the wave. But at the start of the year,
we thought it was gonna be real good defense and
just good enough offense was the blueprint, right, And then
that kind of flipped like, oh wow, the defense is

(01:50:17):
really bad, but this offense could be really good with Rogers,
And now it's kind of flipping back the other way.
I thought Rogers was okay and his two quarters didn't
didn't reassure me that he was gonna make the Chargers
game a blip and go back to being highly productive.
He wasn't terrible, but he wasn't great. He got one touchdown,

(01:50:37):
Rudolph got one touchdown. They both should have scored every
time they had the ball.

Speaker 19 (01:50:41):
I have to tell you, like I think I missed
when that Rogers went out for a second. I don't
know if I was out of the room or what happened,
but when Rudolph was back in there, I didn't notice
like it looked like kind of the same offense pretty
much regardless of who was in there.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
Took him right down for a field goal. Yeah, right, kudos.

Speaker 9 (01:50:59):
If their defense can do that to Cincinnati, they should
be able.

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
To do with the others. I agree.

Speaker 5 (01:51:05):
We'll have Rob Kin come in with a power hour
of Steeler talk for you in the nine o'clock hour.
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Look you left the game on the left black game
Well shrugs off the tackle and gets into the end
zone for Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:52:03):
A five yard touchdown reception from Mason Rudolph or Kenneth Gainwell.

Speaker 4 (01:52:07):
Mason after the game, I love playing here and this
is where I was drafted and this is home and yeah,
very very special.

Speaker 5 (01:52:18):
Yeah, it was all about the backups yesterday, not just
Mason Rudolph, but Kenneth Gainwell, James Pierre, everybody stepping up.

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Speaker 4 (01:52:37):
Jerry next man up standard was the standard.

Speaker 5 (01:52:41):
But is there any early word on whether or not
we're going to see number two behind center Sunday in Chicago,
or will Aaron Rodgers revisit a field he's all too
familiar with.

Speaker 15 (01:52:53):
Yeah, that's being determined this morning. Rand always going to
have an MRI or an X ray, and they you know,
have to wait for the swelling to go down. That's
why they wait till next day, you know, and then
they'll determine whether there's maybe a fracture in there, maybe
there's some ligament damage that would be the worst case
scenario I would imagine. But no, I haven't heard anything yet,

(01:53:17):
But you know, I think what we saw yesterday, obviously
it's a little different attack, a little different plan with
maxon Rudolph than it is with Aaron Rodgers. I like that,
not necessarily, Yeah, oh yeah. He was very productive and
more probably just as important, if not more important. He's
more efficient in this regard. And then they converted third downs.

(01:53:40):
He converted five to six, and three of those were
third and eleven or longer, and so you know, they've
been having problems converting third downs as we all know.
It was four of eighteen in a previous six quarters. So, yeah,
he came in and he was He was very efficient
and did a good job as he typically does.

Speaker 4 (01:54:00):
In there a little bit more.

Speaker 5 (01:54:02):
I think Aaron's been here in the footsteps, realizing that
you know, at his age, he can only take so
many hits. I actually think it's like a double edged
sword with him, because there are times where I think
that the thing he doesn't have that a forty one
year old Brady had is Brady was quick to live
another day if it wasn't there boom balls on the ground.

(01:54:23):
There are times where Aaron Rodgers I think is trying
to do too much and he can get himself into trouble.

Speaker 9 (01:54:28):
Yeah, except a couple third downs yesterday, he actually lived
to live another series. He threw a couple of checkdowns
that had no chance. I get that sometimes you have
to throw behind the sticks and hope the guy can run.
But there were a couple that the guy was all
over the receiver and you knew even if he caught it,
he wasn't going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (01:54:46):
But though that's what he used to not do. I
think his frustration has been evident. You see it in
his body language on the field. The difference with Mason
to me is well, okay, that first drive ended up
with the field goal too, But it seemed like with
his he's not Josh Allen, but you can roll him
out a little bit more and feel comfortable that when
the rush is on the thing that he did great

(01:55:07):
when we had him come in for those last three
games in the Mitch Trubisky, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph year,
was he stood tall when the pressure came in knowing
that someone was about to get open.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
I'm wondering if DK is not missing some opportunities with
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 15 (01:55:24):
Well, I think what you noticed and your point is well,
taking Randall, I think what you've noticed with the two
of them is that you know, because Aaron Rodgers is
so good at the line of scrimmage, yes, a lot
of what they do was predicated on what he is
doing at the line of scrimmage, whereas that is not
the case with Mason Rudolph. And if you notice they

(01:55:45):
play a little bit more up tempo with Mason Rudolph,
and the play is called and they go and try
and execute that play to the point where it actually
could be a little bit more simplistic that way, as
opposed to change routes, changing assignments, changing blocking schemes, whatever
up front, and what is Aaron Rodgers' strength. And I'm

(01:56:06):
not saying it's holding him back, because it's not. But
when all that's not on point, you know, it's not
as effective maybe as Okay, here's the play, let's go
out and execute it. This is what's designed, let's go
do it. And that's kind of what was working yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:56:22):
Jerry Dulac with us right now defensively. The Jalen Ramsey situation.
You know, when that first happened, I thought, well, there's
Ramsey being Ramsey again. But I think he was playing
up to the line before that. And once somebody spits
on you, well all bets are off. You know, it
seemed like everybody had Jalen Ramsey's back in the locker

(01:56:43):
room on that one.

Speaker 15 (01:56:45):
You know, Jalen Ramsey is always playing up to the line.
You know, he's just one play away from a fifteen
yard penalty. That's just the nature of who he is
and how he plays. The funny thing is is I'm
watching them stand there, you know, face mask to face mask, talking,
jawing whatever they're doing. But it was it was they

(01:57:05):
weren't kind of barking at each other as much as
they were just talking to each other. So I'm watching
them through the glasses, you know, and all of a sudden,
I see Ramsey react the way he didn't. I thought,
oh my god, what's that about. You know, now we
know what happened. He claims he was spit on After
the game, Jamar Chase said he didn't spit on anybody.
There's a video out there that certainly appears that that

(01:57:26):
was the case, and obviously the league's going to look
into it. But yeah, you know, back to back on
sportsman like that get you kicked out of the game,
and and you know he had to be you know,
as I don't know how much TV showed it or
if you were at the game, random you saw his
teammates repeatedly, several of them restraining him and pulling them
away and getting him out of there. And yeah, he

(01:57:48):
you know, the way he reacted, I think it was
more than then Jamar Chase saying something about his mom
or something.

Speaker 24 (01:57:55):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:57:55):
So I don't know, but obviously the league's going to
look into it, and we'll see what the repercussions are.
If Jamar Chase did do that. I'm sure he'll get
probably a one game suspension for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:58:07):
Yeah, he was amazing.

Speaker 9 (01:58:08):
Afterward, I saw a clip posted online Ramsey talking about
how that all occurred and we can't play it because
every third word is a curse. But he was, Yeah,
we were just talking bleep, and I like talking bleep
and that's part of the game, and just normal talking
bleep and then all of a sudden.

Speaker 4 (01:58:27):
It escalated. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:58:30):
Yeah, and that's what it looked like, Mike. Like I said,
as I'm watching them, you can see it wasn't like
they were just going back and forth. They were kind
of standing there. You knew they weren't exchanging pleasantries, but
it wasn't anything animated as we see sometimes, so like
it was the previous play. And then, like I said,
he just kind of erupted, and I thought, wow, how one,

(01:58:50):
how stupid not knowing what transpired, And then I thought, wow,
he must have said something that listen ad that reaction.
We know, or at least we think we know what
it was.

Speaker 5 (01:59:02):
Jerry, what's going on with Calvin Austin not getting as
many reps as Roman Wilson at number two yesterday?

Speaker 15 (01:59:08):
Yeah, I don't know. All I can say, and I'll
look into it, but all I can say is the
same thing that happened last week, you know, with Kenneth
Gainwell getting morsemats than Jalen Warren. You know, they go
into a game with certain players for certain packages and
the assistant coaches are the ones who rotate the players
into the game. Now, last week, because they got behind

(01:59:30):
in the third quarter and then they were going hurry
up in the fourth quarter in LA. You know, Kenneth
Gainwell was in on us, you know, was a guy
before the game designated for some of those packages, and
when they keep running him over and over, you know,
he ends up in the game more than Jalen Warren.
That's not a defense to me, it's a poor excuse

(01:59:51):
because you need to have Jalen Warren in the game
with no knock against Kenny Gamewell. And I'm sure I'm
guessing I'm guessing probably the same thing happened again. But
Roman Wilson has been he's been you know, he's you've
noticed him the last three or four games and he's
been productive for him. So I don't know that that's it,

(02:00:11):
but that's that's at least maybe some small explanation.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
For what happened.

Speaker 5 (02:00:15):
Well, I'm looking at it like this, going this weekend,
assuming Mason is going to have to play again, Let's
say midway through the second quarter, he sprains his mustache.
He's got to sit down. So then they have Will
Howard comes in. Okay, that's right, the people's champion comes in,
and then the Steelers get get they get the preview

(02:00:37):
of whether or not they got anything in Will Howard.

Speaker 4 (02:00:42):
This might be a gift in a weird way. He
would be so unprepared to go into a game if
he had to go into a game. That's not what
the Internet says. Mike Twitter believes that this guy. I
know what the Internet says.

Speaker 15 (02:00:53):
I think Internet thinks he could. He could take him
to the super Bowl.

Speaker 9 (02:00:57):
We got about three Will Howard calls out of about
twenty five or twenty six that we took last night.

Speaker 4 (02:01:02):
But do you think no, no, no, no, is he ready?

Speaker 5 (02:01:07):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:01:08):
Would be.

Speaker 15 (02:01:11):
The reality Randall with a situation is they will get
him prepared this week more so than he has, uh,
you know, pending Aaron Rodgers injury, which I don't think
Aaron Rodger's gonna play this week, but they will get
him ready as the number two quarterback, unlike what has
the least the last week or so, where he's just
kind of two weeks is where he's running the scout team.
So that that is one byproduct for this is they

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will get him more prepared at least to you know,
be the guy who could go see if something happens
to Mason. So I don't know that mustache is that
mustache is looking pretty good.

Speaker 4 (02:01:43):
Random.

Speaker 15 (02:01:44):
I can't see it getting injured at all.

Speaker 4 (02:01:46):
That is true. That is true. It does have girth.

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Speaker 5 (02:02:04):
As we look back at the Steelers thirty four Bengals
twelve yesterday, and I look ahead at that Chicago game
and what will end up happening there, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:02:12):
For I don't even know why I wasn't considering him
taking snaps. I'm like, it's his left rist, who cares?
That's a problem. Just put a cast on it.

Speaker 5 (02:02:19):
You'll be fine, But yeah, that would suck. I mean,
that's probably snap, you know, just asking for the exchange
to be fiffed. You could probably go gun all day,
but I don't think you want to do that now.
We just I mean severely limit yourself and as good
as he is at play action too, like really losing
a weapon there, all right?

Speaker 27 (02:02:37):
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the F one fifty, the official truck of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Well,
first things first, King and I sat together for Paul McCartney. Yeah,
this past week, I have not talked to you post.
We texted late, but I didn't get a full.

Speaker 4 (02:04:35):
Review from you.

Speaker 5 (02:04:36):
He's unbelievable your thoughts on eighty three year old Paul McCay.
I mean, he's unbelievable. So I saw him when he
opened up, uh Consaul, Yes, I was there too, twenty twelve, fourteen.
It was fifteen years ago, okay, So he his voice
sounded incredible then, like just like he hadn't had an
aged at all. Then I saw him again in Knoxville

(02:04:59):
in twenty twenty two with my wife and my daughter.
We got my son in this time, so you see, said.

Speaker 4 (02:05:04):
Yeah, see the guy. So we got the whole the
whole family has shared my sister.

Speaker 5 (02:05:07):
So so twenty twenty two, I was like, ooh, he's
you know, eight years later or whatever it was he'd
lost or twelve years later, he'd clearly lost some voice.
His voice isn't at its best. But the I mean,
the set list of this is crazy and when he
needed to hit some notes he did.

Speaker 4 (02:05:23):
He was smart.

Speaker 5 (02:05:24):
You know, you and I were discussing Elvis Costell, like
this is what Elvis Costeller should do. Bring in the
background vocals, right, just sing a little bit, let the
background vocals carry, and then when you need to slam
it out there, hopefully he got enough voice to do it,
and Paul McCartney had enough voice to do it.

Speaker 4 (02:05:38):
And it was and just one last thing.

Speaker 5 (02:05:40):
It was very It was It was emotional for me
and for my wife because my wife's sister was there
and my younger sister, Sue was there. A huge they're
both huge Beatles fans. And if you're our age old,
that's like the soundtrack of your life. It just is, man,
I mean, and you know it's there's been never been
a group like him, never will never been a person

(02:06:01):
like Paul McCartney, never will be.

Speaker 15 (02:06:02):
It was.

Speaker 5 (02:06:03):
I thought it was great and two hours and forty minutes.
Eric Clapton, I mean, this is this is a great show.

Speaker 4 (02:06:09):
You know, yeah, more than last week two.

Speaker 19 (02:06:11):
But like, don't you think that the fact that his
voice is sort of quavering and is sort of showing
his age, doesn't that make it more emotional in a
way and more.

Speaker 5 (02:06:20):
Meaning certain songs you see like like that kind of thing.
Certain songs it definitely did, I mean, give you more grep.
Well he's singing Blackbird and his voices breaking up. You're
just like, I can't tell you the amount of times
I'm like, am I about to cry? Because I like
it was it was emotional.

Speaker 4 (02:06:33):
Yeah, I I yeah, my eyes were.

Speaker 5 (02:06:35):
My eyes got a little wet a couple of times,
especially the videos in the background, and it really just
it's so much about the passing of time. You're there
to kiss the ring on a legend. Like you said,
there's nobody like him. It's not just that he has
a lot of hits. You're not watching the who you're
not watching even Mick Jagger, who has like a different
persona and relationship likes. There's something about McCartney because he

(02:06:56):
is the unicorn like there are not It's like Prince
and McCartney, you know, there aren't a lot of guys who.

Speaker 4 (02:07:02):
Did and can do as much as he has and
and still does.

Speaker 5 (02:07:06):
He played the bass, and Sang played the guitar, and
Sang he's playing the piano and Sang he played a
ukulele and sang and he's eighty three years old and
he did it for two hours and forty minutes, and
every song he sang was a classic that he wrote.
It's just unbelievable. Yeah, there's not a lot of people
like that in the history of music. He's like Mozart. Well,

(02:07:27):
when you think about the Beatles in general. And by
the way, the one guy whose voice did change, and
I think change for the better was Elton John. When
I saw him in contrad he changed for the Bely mackerel.

Speaker 4 (02:07:37):
Yeah, so does Elton John. He said that before. He
likes that his voice has changed, his voice being lower.

Speaker 5 (02:07:42):
Like I'm not a huge Elton John on the record fan,
I just you know, because that was the air of
the backup strings, like, you know, softening everything. There was
no soft in concert, man. He just I was like,
whoa man? Yeah, I saw the last one at Peach
he brought it. But you know, they the serious does
the top one hundred Beatles songs.

Speaker 4 (02:08:03):
I don't know what you're talking about. I know, I
know you've never heard of it. It is. I don't know.
I've never heard of it either, but but I've heard
tell of this. But they're finished.

Speaker 5 (02:08:11):
So this is a group that was around for what
eight years, and when the one hundred songs were over here,
like they missed some.

Speaker 4 (02:08:17):
It's it's it's incredible.

Speaker 5 (02:08:19):
They went from I want to hold your hand to
Strawberry Fields in three years. That's just yes, that will
never happen. It can't happen. It can't happen. Agreed, it
can't happen. Agreed, agreed. Okay, let's talk football. Steelers get
to win yesterday, and you know it was the tail
of the backup Mason coming in. Jalen Warn goes out

(02:08:41):
with the injury gain Well, gets more tots and really
gets it done through the air. He was their leading
receiver yesterday and James Pierre in the secondary with not
just the funnel recovery return for a touchdown, I mean
even bigger was he saved a touchdown early in the
game when Chase was wide open.

Speaker 4 (02:09:00):
Beautiful pass break up. Here is Rob King on the call, al.

Speaker 3 (02:09:03):
Swirling as Flacco gets the snap back to pass looking
gonna loft deep intended for.

Speaker 4 (02:09:08):
Chase, batted away.

Speaker 3 (02:09:09):
Beautiful play by James Pierre right down the middle of
the field. Pierre had it judged all the way. Great
coverage by Pierre Rogers goes down.

Speaker 5 (02:09:19):
Doesn't worry me to bring in Mason Rudolph, Jalen Warren
goes down. While I love Jalen, I am his biggest fan,
I think the offense needs to continue to go through him.
Gainwell has already proven he can do it. We saw
in Dublin James Pierre coming in. That makes me a
little bit nervous. He really stepped up yesterday. He's an
interesting guy, you know, proof that development for a player

(02:09:43):
isn't linear, right, asn't always linear.

Speaker 4 (02:09:45):
Sometimes it is.

Speaker 5 (02:09:46):
But when he was when they got him as an
undrafted free agent, Mike Tomlin talked about him during earlier
in the week. You know, he's a COVID guy, so
he didn't you know, it wasn't able to be around him.
But they really, they really felt like there was something
there and it's just taken him a while to get there,
you know, from Florida Atlantic to the NFL and you know,
he was not on the team, he was on the

(02:10:06):
practice squad earlier this year. To be able to have
that kind of assent is first of all, it's it's
a credit to him, but they you know, they they
kind of stuck with him, and I think that that
belief that he could be that kind of player is
starting to manifest itself in the field. Yeah, I mean
they really miss Corey Trice and his availability here. I
think signing a Sante Samuel, you think we see him

(02:10:29):
next week? I mean it was it would have been
a quick turnaround to put him back on the football
field again in such short order. But with another week,
do you think it's possible. I think I think it's possible.

Speaker 4 (02:10:44):
You know, there's a when.

Speaker 5 (02:10:47):
And by the way, all these guys you're mentioning Randy,
I mean, I think it's when coming out of camp.
Remember being in camp watching with Max and others and
being like, man, this team is super deep, really deep.
The one place they weren't really deep with safety and
what happened. They get injuries at safety. But when you
have a player like Jalen Ramsey, and some of this
is roster construction, some of this is the players. Of course,

(02:11:07):
you know, the players have to step forth no matter
who what kind of roster construction you have. But game well,
as we saw in Minnesota, that's a really good backup.
He never had the opportunity to play like that. He
showed in Minnesota that he can play like that. So
Jayalen Warren goes down.

Speaker 4 (02:11:22):
That's what you have. Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 5 (02:11:24):
Of course, we've seen him before, Pierre, you know, Kyle
Dugger going out and getting him in a trade. You know,
there's a lot of things that have happened along the way,
and a lot of the depth kind of coming to
the forefront here for the Steelers and some of that,
you know, like the pro scouting department, all these departments
coming together and putting the right guys in place. But
also you know, eventually and ultimately the players have to
go out and succeed. And the Steelers, I still think

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they have a deep roster. Jalen Ramsey being able to
play safety is huge, especially when a guy like Pierre
and a guy like Eccles who you know you brought
him in maybe to be the fourth corner. You know,
when those guys can urge for you. And then, like
you said, as Sante Samuel, this is a really good player.
You know, they need to get him up to speed.
I don't know how difficult it's going to be for

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him to kind of just jump in. He hasn't played
in what over a year, so I don't know. I
like the way that the backups had to come in
and perform, and that's exactly what they had to do.

Speaker 19 (02:12:19):
It's part of Gainwell's success, the fact that he is
second on the chart, that he's lurking in the shadows
that people are game planning for, you know, Jalen Warren,
and that gain Well's not getting enough attention from defensive coordinat.

Speaker 5 (02:12:33):
I would have said before the Vikings game, Yes, after that, No,
because he's been an integral he was getting touches before
the injury. He just became the primary focus after that.
I mean, he's a good so much so that I
don't think they should have gone to Gamewell on that
third down. They should have kept Warren in on the
one failed third down attempt they had, and we talked
about it with Tim Bens earlier. I would prefer that

(02:12:54):
when they spell Warren, they do it by series and
not mid series.

Speaker 4 (02:12:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:12:59):
I think that's I agree with you, because that's what
they've done in the past. That's you know, Warren was
a third down back, but he would also come in
and spell Naji Harris. Look, they really like gain, Well,
did I say Warren, I meant Warren. Did I say
Warren would come in for Naji for a series? Yes, yeah,
third time back, okay a committee. Yeah, So I agree

(02:13:21):
with you, and I thought that was maybe kind of
how they would use him. But they think he's a
really really good third down back. They think he's an
upper echelon third down type of back. It gives you
the opportunity to rest Jalen Warren, keep him fresh, you know. I,
like I said, I think we saw in Minnesota what
he can do. But you know, look around the league, like,
for example, the team they're playing this week, Chicago, DeAndre

(02:13:43):
Swift got hurt. They put in Kylemanung Guy, a seventh
round pick. He went crazy. Everyone's like, this is the
end of DeAndre Swift. Well, soon the Swift was healthy,
he got back in there. But Manan guy had a
massive game. There are good players around the league that
are just waiting for an opportunity. Game was really never
had the opportunity to be the guy. And he's had
a couple of opportunities this season, in certainly the one

(02:14:06):
in Dublin because Warren wasn't available, and then in the
second half of this game. What do you think was
the biggest difference between the first time they played they
faced Joe Flacco and now yesterday's thirty four to twelve win.
The defense was just so much better, you know, And
again I don't know how much the wind had to
do with that, because it was really windy, really windy.

(02:14:28):
And did you just watch any of the game last night,
the Eagles game?

Speaker 4 (02:14:31):
I did not. It picked up even more.

Speaker 5 (02:14:33):
I mean, guys, were they showed guys that they showed
the kickers in pregame warm ups, you know, aiming to
the left of the upright and it blowing all the
way across and wide right. I mean, just crazy win.
It was windy yesterday. I don't know if that helped,
but you know they were the Bengals just hit deep
out after deep out against the Steelers. I mean in

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the first game. Oh, I mean just you know, a
fifteen to seventy yard out just easy as could be
to Chase and Higgins.

Speaker 4 (02:15:03):
I don't remember see I think I saw one pass
completed like that yesterday.

Speaker 15 (02:15:06):
One.

Speaker 4 (02:15:07):
Yeah, they did a great job covering those guys.

Speaker 5 (02:15:10):
And whether you say the wind or the defense or
probably a combination of both, you know, getting some pressure
up the middle on Flacco and again you see the
difference between between you know, a pass rush and making
a team one dimensional. You know, at some point Flacco
had to hang onto the ball a split second longer.
When that happens against his team, you're in big trouble.

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Was yesterday game that made them further realize that they
need to invest more in this guy.

Speaker 3 (02:15:36):
Back to pass looking fires over the middle of the field,
complete to darn and wash oh. He shut down a
man and then lowers his shoulder, grumbling down the left sideline.

Speaker 4 (02:15:47):
He shrugged him off with a stiff arm and.

Speaker 3 (02:15:49):
Got down the left sideline inside the thirty five yard
line of the Bengals.

Speaker 5 (02:15:54):
Out of the thirty one I mean, a thirty one
yard gain and he, you know, as you point out there,
just shreds three guys for the Bengals. This is a
weapon that nobody else really has right now, Like, we've
got to utilize him more often. It seems like theyre's
they've been slow rolling him out of the gate for

(02:16:14):
so long. Are we finally ready to go?

Speaker 4 (02:16:17):
Okay? Time to throw it to mount worsh You know,
I love his game. I really do.

Speaker 5 (02:16:22):
And I know how his hands are, by the way,
I don't know if he's like the best catching hands.

Speaker 4 (02:16:26):
He has good hands.

Speaker 5 (02:16:27):
I don't remember too many, I mean, you know, except
for him not being ready, like if he's ready that
he wasn't ready. Yeah, but you know reminded me of
like if you had, say a senior in high school
playing King of the Hill against like the first range,
he's likeam.

Speaker 4 (02:16:45):
His ankle.

Speaker 5 (02:16:48):
Was?

Speaker 3 (02:16:48):
It was?

Speaker 5 (02:16:49):
It was actually well I laughed out loud because it
was actually humorous. It was, you know, so I understand
what you're saying. But then after after the first game
into to Naye, everyone's like, what we need more friar mouth, right,
you know, And I don't think we've seen the best
of John neu Smith yet. I just think, and I've
said this many times over the years. Over this year,

(02:17:10):
I think it's going to be a matchup oriented team.
In the passing game. You have DK Metcalf. He's a constant.
One week you'll look out there and be like, hey,
their second corner isn't up to snuff. This is Calvin
Austin's game. Okay, well they got two good corners. Now
we're gonna have. You know, we're gonna be able to
utilize the tight ends. So they have and Darning Washington's

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playing a lot. You know, they have the jumbo package.
He's playing a ton, and the tight ends are out
catching the receivers.

Speaker 4 (02:17:38):
Like all the time.

Speaker 5 (02:17:39):
I guess what I'm saying is, I know he's not
being put on the bench, But do they start scheming
him into the game plan a little bit more than
they have been.

Speaker 4 (02:17:47):
Well, I think he's been schemed in. I think he's
been just the right. He can't have too much Paprika.
It's hard.

Speaker 5 (02:17:55):
It's hard to say, like if a team just said,
you know, I don't know whether a team could take
him away.

Speaker 4 (02:18:01):
Is there something that hears him? Like who has the size?

Speaker 5 (02:18:05):
He literally can go eight yards out on a curl route,
hold his hand up and that's it.

Speaker 4 (02:18:09):
Like, what's anybody gonna do about it? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:18:11):
Yeah, I mean I don't know. I mean it would
be interesting. Okay, you got an assignment for me. I'm
going to go try to talk to so who would
normally cover him, a strong safety, maybe inside linebackers, Peyton Wilson,
Patrick Queen.

Speaker 4 (02:18:24):
Yeah, I'll I'll see what they have to say. I'll
see what they think. I'll see what they think about that.

Speaker 5 (02:18:28):
Rob King joining us with a power of Steeler talk
right now and big win over the division fox Cincinnati
Bengals yesterday. I think their coach thinks I think their
coach thinks I reckta. I think he's His clock management
is terrible. I think he makes bad decisions. I have
to say this, but the Steelers had won ten in
a row in the last ten games. The Bengals were

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seven and three against Steelers.

Speaker 4 (02:18:50):
I know which is.

Speaker 5 (02:18:51):
You know confounds me even more because I don't think
that guy's a good Chase Brown just under one hundred
yards yesterday ninety nine. That seemed to be thing they
let like. They didn't get flummixed like they did the
first game, and they seemed to be all over the
place over correcting. It was almost a tortoise and hair situation.
The first time they played Flacco. I liked the poise
on defense and on offense, that's okay, live to fight

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another day, and punk the ball away established the run.
I think they ended up with almost like a fifty
to fifty split in passing run yesterday, which is better
than what we'd been seeing where they were you know,
Aaron Rodgers is throwing at thirty five times and Jalen
Warren got you know, sixteen carriages.

Speaker 4 (02:19:29):
He ended up with ten before he was taken out
of the game yesterday. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:19:32):
Sometimes though that's dictated by the game, right, So you
get the lead and now you can run the football.

Speaker 4 (02:19:36):
I know, don't stump all over my now though, I
mean just because you're running. You know what they did.

Speaker 5 (02:19:42):
They won the time in possession maxis keep Max's clock.
We know we were in conversion breaking Max, Like, what's
the time in possession? Someone said thirty minutes. He's like, oh,
we got to get the ball back. So they got
it back for a kneel down I think at the
end of the game and that one time that yeah,
thirty minutes and five second second to twenty nine fifty five.

Speaker 4 (02:20:03):
Yep, win's a win. When to win.

Speaker 5 (02:20:06):
I am actually a little bit encouraged by that performance yesterday.
On a couple of fronts. I'm not worried about Aaron
Rodgers because I really don't think that Mason Rudolph is
a huge drop off at this point. I can see
that Aaron Rodgers does a whole lot more at the
line of scrimmage. But as you pointed out, maybe the
rest of the team is better suited to, uh just

(02:20:27):
engage in some simplicity there.

Speaker 4 (02:20:29):
Did I point that out? Did I say that?

Speaker 7 (02:20:32):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:20:33):
No, Jerry did? Jerry y?

Speaker 10 (02:20:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:20:34):
Yeah, all right, Sorry I'm confusing people. But here's my
one question for you. Rum and Wilson ended up with
more snaps yesterday than Calvin Austin. Now, Calvin Austin is
back to return punts, so it can't be because of injury.

Speaker 4 (02:20:50):
What do you think that's the day because Kishon got
hurt yesterday?

Speaker 5 (02:20:53):
I got a concussion that okay, So this actually, yeah,
that's relevant.

Speaker 4 (02:20:59):
That's why they moved Austin into back to returning punts. Okay,
So do you think it's because Austin is still like
nursing that injury. No, I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (02:21:08):
You know, again, maybe there's something they liked in the
matchup that got Roman Wilson more snaps. I saw him
running in emotional How many catches did he have? I
thought he had one? Yeah, he had he had one
for seventeen yards. Calvin had one for five yards.

Speaker 19 (02:21:21):
If we were skimming tight tight ends open and we're
doing sort of routes that are meant for checkdowns or
anything like that. Is there any reason like maybe Roman
Wilson's better blocking than teeny tiny Calvin.

Speaker 4 (02:21:32):
He's a pretty good blocker Roman. Yeah. Well they're both scrappy.
Neither one of them is a large human. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:21:37):
Roman Wilson's not a big guy either, but they are there.
Both of them are are scrappy. They know that they
have to be, kay. You know, I talked about that
with Calvin Austin last year. It's like he's always been small, right,
he knows that, he knows he's got to get in
somebody's face and get after him because he's never been
the biggest guy in the room. So he's I love
his heart and his scrappiness. Like I said, I just

(02:21:57):
think that for whatever reason, they either it's the flow
of the game or the game plan, that's what we're
gonna see. You know, one week it's going to be
a ton of Darnell Washington, next week it's going to
be Pat Fryarmuth. I'm still waiting for Johnny Smith to
have a breakout game because I think he's I think
he's due.

Speaker 4 (02:22:12):
One and is going to have one. Man he and
friar Mouth.

Speaker 5 (02:22:15):
I mean, friar Mouth had that game against the Bengals
last time, and you thought you would have seen more
of him yesterday. But I just thought we were going
to see the ball be be in front of the
tight ends much more often than we have this season. Well,
I mean it's been spread out, it's been distributed. The
one thing Johnni Smith hasn't done that I thought would
happen more because you know, because we've seen the both

(02:22:35):
running backs get a ton of catches, we have seen
the tight ends get a lot of catches. We haven't
seen a lot of DK Metcalf, especially lately, getting a
ton of catches. What did he have yesterday? Dk had
five for forty nine. You know, he was the last
four games he'd average under forty yards per game in
receiving arts.

Speaker 4 (02:22:53):
DK.

Speaker 5 (02:22:53):
Mason had him over the top on one yesterday and
he went underneath and we got the first down.

Speaker 4 (02:23:00):
So, I mean we still ended up getting the first down.
It was the drive we scored.

Speaker 5 (02:23:02):
But there's a few times I think where DK is
probably getting frustrated because he's not being seen. Well, I
don't remember both with Rogers and Mason, and I do
wonder if the wind had a factor. I don't remember
a single long one getting completed by either team. It
probably happened, but I don't remember like a long ball
down field that was completed yesterday?

Speaker 4 (02:23:22):
Do you for Metcalf specific Yeah, for anybody either team?
Was there a long and anybody aired it out? Yeah?
I'm trying to remember if they even threw it long
at any point. I think you're right.

Speaker 5 (02:23:33):
Well, Darnell's thirty one had that twenty eight yarder, but
that was for the touchdown. Yeah, I mean it was
almost like a wheel route thing that like. But even that,
I think I was only twenty or fifteen yards. Yeah,
that it wasn't even that much. Yeah, I think it
was hard to throw the ball down the field.

Speaker 4 (02:23:49):
Yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:23:50):
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Speaker 4 (02:24:05):
Well, what is this now?

Speaker 5 (02:24:06):
The I think they're in first, right, the Bears in
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and I want to bring back a segment that we
used to kind of do during the Power Hour, which
was the post game call of the day because oh nice, well,

(02:24:30):
Charlie Batch have.

Speaker 4 (02:24:31):
To deal with lots of fun calls after the game.

Speaker 5 (02:24:34):
So I just tapped Mike on the shoulder again and said, hey,
watch you, you know, let's bring that segmentry Nick and
I think there'll be a good one. Then we'll offer
it to a kinger to kick around here at nine
to forty five. So Michael joined us. Jeff Conkle's hanging
in studio with us this morning as well, right here
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Speaker 9 (02:25:23):
Fray Sports is that brought to you by Bridgeville Plans.
Let's just keep riffing on the game. I liked what
you guys were talking about before the break. The two
deep shots that stood out to me were the Flacco
to Jamar chase that James Spear made the phenomenal play
on the deep post, and the Mason Rudolph back shoulder

(02:25:43):
to metcalf, which I still can't believe that was called
offensive pass interference. I thought that was two guys hand fighting,
neither one restricting the other. They did not go to
Jeans Stare throw on that play for some reason, but
we'll get to it tomorrow. I thought that was a
bad call. Other than that, there weren't a lot of
shots taken Aaron Rodgers game. I don't want to say

(02:26:06):
I was down on it before his injury, but I
was expecting a significant bounce back from him, and I
didn't see that.

Speaker 5 (02:26:15):
He looked frustrated again. His body language suggests somebody's frustrated.
And I don't know if it's because, as we talked
about earlier, he's changing things up at the line that
they're not getting Or did DK on that one third
down throw where Rogers overthrew him in the second quarter?

(02:26:37):
Did he run the wrong route there? Did Aaron Rodgers
overthrow it? Did the wind take it?

Speaker 4 (02:26:41):
I don't know. Yeah, nothing noticeable to me. He was
wide open, he was one on one.

Speaker 9 (02:26:47):
And he was down the field and they didn't hit
it again, and now the Chargers won. Was pretty obvious
that something was amiss with the route versus the ball placement.
I didn't see anything that jumped out at me looking
at that one again, Rogers was frustrated afterward. I just
interpreted it as only missed. We had a shot there.

Speaker 5 (02:27:04):
Well, that's what I don't know, is he pissed it
himself or the circumstances. I actually think a lot of
the times he's pissed at the line because he is
having to worry so much about the lack of protection.

Speaker 9 (02:27:15):
Most other fault quarterbacks have to move a little bit
in the pocket. That's why they scout that skill I mean,
line was much better yesterday, and Max Starts, I thought,
did a great job on the pregame show pointing out
that Broderick Jones had a tough night against the Chargers
and it was not a coincidence that Isaac Samala was
not lined up next to him and they kept switching

(02:27:37):
the guard because they were doing that.

Speaker 4 (02:27:39):
Let's try to start Calvin aust Or. Let's try to have.

Speaker 9 (02:27:43):
Spencer Anderson play guard and the extra line extra tight
end thing. So they had to bring Pete in and
the guard position kept changing. It's not an excuse. I'm
not making an excuse for Broderick. He should have been better,
but he was much better yesterday. The play from Rodgers
that really bothered me because what I value with Aaron

(02:28:04):
Rodgers is his ability to see the field, break down
the defense, understand where the ball needs to go, and
get it there. Second quarter, right after Friar Moose's nineteen
yard reception his catch and run, Rogers ended up bootlegging
right and Friar Mouth was wide open in the middle
of the field.

Speaker 4 (02:28:20):
He's on the logo with.

Speaker 9 (02:28:21):
His hands up in the air, and the crowd reacted
because he broke open and you can hear, Oh, there
he is and he threw it to Jons Smith.

Speaker 4 (02:28:31):
You had a big play there. You missed it.

Speaker 9 (02:28:32):
He was uncovered. I don't expect that from Aaron Rodgers.
That's the kind of play I want to see him
make with regularity, as he was doing before that Chargers game.

Speaker 19 (02:28:43):
Has he always been known as like a you know,
Ben Roth because I always thought that was something that
Ben could do, is when the play broke down, he
could see the scramp make things happen. Rogers was always great,
arm great, you know, game manager, everything like that. Has
he been known to be able to pick that up.
And he's getting flushed out of the podcast. In the
old days, when he was a young man, he could

(02:29:04):
run and hurt you that way. And now he groans
when he sits in a car, But now he can.

Speaker 9 (02:29:09):
Still get out on the wing and make a play.
The Calvin Austin thing is perplexing to me, and it's
it's curious to me. The defense is getting better because
they're talking about stability at safety and they're not running guys.

Speaker 4 (02:29:20):
In and out from down to down as often. You
just talked about the offensive line benefiting from smoo I
think they're playing with their toys too much on offense.
And I made a comment earlier today, Rand, and you
reacted with great surprise.

Speaker 9 (02:29:34):
I talked about they're looking for a second receiver again,
and he said, well, they've been doing that since July.
Early in the season, they were in two wide receiver sets.
It was almost always Metcalf and Austin. And if you
go back to the New England game, it's ty game,
late fourth quarter and Rogers they're in cover two and
Rogers reads that the safety on the near hash is

(02:29:55):
going to come down and he's going to have a
one on one with Calvin, and he just looks at
Austin at the line of scrimmage and Austin looks back boom,
game winning touchdown. To me, that's the value of Calvin Austin.
Either he or Metcalf can take the top off the
defense because they're both deep threats. If you single cover them. Now,
how do you not single cover them? You play cover two.

(02:30:17):
If they're doing that, you run the ball. Roman Wilson
hasn't proven to me he can take the top off
the defense yet.

Speaker 4 (02:30:24):
No, I don't know why he's getting more snaps.

Speaker 9 (02:30:26):
Into I mean a small guy, and while the you know,
different guys for different game plans, for different opponents, for
different venues. It's a great theory. It's playing with your
toys too much. You're not getting enough out of them. Yeah,
just put you guys out there, let them make plays.

Speaker 4 (02:30:45):
Well.

Speaker 5 (02:30:46):
The lack of a helmet for MVS is also well,
not puzzling. He just must not be ready for prime
time anymore.

Speaker 4 (02:30:55):
I can't.

Speaker 9 (02:30:56):
He must to play this week. It's puzzling. I mean,
he was in sanfage Go while he was hurt. Yeah,
he has a history with Rodgers, but new to the Steelers.
Put him on a practice sweat, get him up to
speed in practice, get him some reps with the ones.

Speaker 4 (02:31:08):
Put him out there.

Speaker 5 (02:31:09):
I mean, other than he might have just been so
confounded by the playbook or you know, so early on
that they thought, let's get him another week. But I
have a hard time believing that since a lot of
that stuff for these guys is it's rote. It's like
it's all coming from the same bible.

Speaker 9 (02:31:23):
I'm surprised it didn't happen this week after uh, the
putt returner Keyshawn Williams had that screw up against the Chargers.
I thought that was a perfect opportunity to sit him,
move Austin back to the putt returner number three roll
and see what MVS has is the number two.

Speaker 5 (02:31:41):
I was curious as to what they were going to
do with Keishawn, but they gave Hi an opportunity because
he's shown some explosive ability in turn game. You know,
so I'm off late in the game and it didn't
matter they you know, listen to you could say they
showed some confidence in him by putting him back out there.

Speaker 4 (02:31:54):
But he left the game of an injury.

Speaker 5 (02:31:56):
If his availabilities in question, I could see, you know,
if they're going to carry the six wide receivers, that
could see him being called up. But listen, they may
you know, they just signed Sante Seamo too, so maybe
he gets an opportunity to play. I don't know how
much time he's gonna need. There's only so many roster
spots to go around. As far as elevating guys in

(02:32:16):
the practice squad, and then who would you, I mean,
as far as the regular rotation at guys, I mean,
I think it's going to be Metcalf, Austin Wilson.

Speaker 4 (02:32:23):
Still they love what Scoronic brings.

Speaker 5 (02:32:25):
Scottie Miller's a wonderful guy to have available on game
day because he can do so much for you.

Speaker 4 (02:32:29):
Great gunner yesterday. Yeah, I don't know who you. Somebody
else can gun Okay, you're not getting enough out of
this passing game. You're not.

Speaker 9 (02:32:39):
And Calvin Austin they told us in the spring, the
wide receivers coach, the offensive coordinator head. He's a number two,
and for the first three four weeks of the season
it was believable. Since he has come back last two games,
he's got three catches for nineteen yards combined.

Speaker 4 (02:32:57):
If it ain't him, it's got to be somebody else.

Speaker 9 (02:32:59):
And if it's not him, I want to see what
MVS looks like as opposed to Robert Wilson.

Speaker 4 (02:33:04):
Well, we'll see. I mean, he hasn't it's been a
while since he's put up big numbers.

Speaker 5 (02:33:08):
Do you want to hear Ian Rappaport on Good Morning
Football talking about Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (02:33:12):
I would love to hear Ian Rappaport on Good Morning
what's the deal with Rogers right now? Man?

Speaker 27 (02:33:18):
Well, Aaron Rodgers is going to have test this morning
just to determine how long he is going to miss
with his injured wrist. If he is going to miss time,
here is our understanding. This is something I've been reporting
with colleague Tom pellisera Aaron Rodgers does have a tiny
fracture in his left rich wrist. That is what the
X ray at the stadium revealed yesterday. The reason why

(02:33:39):
he's going to have more tests. After you mentioned a
player land on his wrist, it was torqued in a way.
There was just too much pressure at a boat ended
up breaking. Aaron Rodgers, to my understanding, has told people
close to him that he will be back very soon.
He has told more people close to him that he
does not want to miss a game. He is pushing
to play in this game. I know it seems crazy

(02:34:00):
because he broke a bone in his wrist, but it.

Speaker 4 (02:34:02):
Is a left wrist.

Speaker 27 (02:34:03):
If he's able to grip, if he's able to receive
the ball on the step, it is actually possible that
Rogers could play this week. I had someone tell me
that he was essentially fifty to fifty to play this week.
So it sounds bad, but Aaron Rodgers does want to
play and is trying to see how he could do it.

Speaker 6 (02:34:21):
For the Steelers.

Speaker 9 (02:34:23):
So we'll see how the practice week plays out. They
could beat to Bears with Mason Rudolph. To me, the
value of Rogers is when you get to the postseason.
I think they can finish the season with Rudolph and
be ten and seven, nine and eight and make the playoffs.
What happens after that, I don't know if with Mason
Rudolph the hope or what you wanted to find out.
I guess is what the Rogers would be that difference

(02:34:44):
making guy, which is what they brought him here to
be in the first place, A difference making guy. In
the postseason last six quarters, he hasn't been that guy.

Speaker 4 (02:34:53):
Were you able to snag a call for us from
the post game?

Speaker 9 (02:34:56):
For Tom, Well, we got Jake working on it. Let's see,
we'll do it after the break, but we'll we'll offer
a citizenry was not up in arms after a thirty
four to twelve n I no, Usually they're they're they're
quite good spirits.

Speaker 4 (02:35:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:35:10):
Oh, but I enjoyed the postgame and you definitely had
some calls to choose.

Speaker 4 (02:35:14):
From couple a couple. Mike just let him rant and goes,
thanks for the car.

Speaker 9 (02:35:23):
You know, what Johnny Smith one other thing, He's a
non factor, all right, Like they made that trade. I
thought it was a great trade initially, but now Ramsey's
back doing what Mincodn did and Jonas Smith isn't catching
any passes.

Speaker 4 (02:35:36):
Yeah, right, so what was the plicket?

Speaker 9 (02:35:40):
But that changing of the guard at tight end is
not serving Friarmouth and it's not serving Smith.

Speaker 5 (02:35:47):
But in defense of the Ramsey move that was necessitated
by injury, I mean Elliott being out, they also necessitated.

Speaker 9 (02:35:54):
But they didn't have a free safety. I mean Elliott
was a strong safety. They thought thorn Hill was going
to play free safety. They thought Chuck Clark was gonna play. Eh, Like,
what was the point?

Speaker 4 (02:36:05):
If John Smith is gonna get they got dolphined two
targets for zero yards, What was the point? What was
the point?

Speaker 19 (02:36:13):
Don't we always talk about Johnny Smith as though he's
a essentially a big wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (02:36:18):
Why can't they can they line him up at wide
receiver and.

Speaker 9 (02:36:20):
Thank you, Maybe that's an option for number two wide receiver,
but the whole let's keep having different tight ends in
the game. Every down is not working. Friarmuth had one
hundred and eleven yards against the Bengals. The last time
they played. They targeted him one time.

Speaker 5 (02:36:34):
Yesterday quick break, We'll come back one more with Rob King,
Voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers here on the flagship station
of the Black and Gold won on two point five
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WDV Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (02:36:48):
Our buddy Jeff Conkle has been hanging out with us
this morning.

Speaker 5 (02:36:50):
Rob King from the Steelers Audio Network, Voice of the
Steelers on their network for Steeler Nation. Each and every
Monday after a Steelers game, we do a power hour
of Steeler Talk. Today is no different, but I wanted
to bring back this segment that we used to put
in this hour. I think we did it with Stanley
when you Yeah, I did the postgames. We're doing the
postgame show now. Mike is in at the helm of

(02:37:13):
both the pregame and postgame show.

Speaker 4 (02:37:15):
I have on your Steelers Sandwich and uh.

Speaker 5 (02:37:19):
We always would grab one question from the postgame show
to kick it around ourselves and also because I like
to just you know, listen into the character of Steeler
fans post game, be it a win or a loss,
and get a sense of their demeanor. Well, with yesterday
being the emmackew spit ejection. This is their take on
the Jalen Ramsey situation.

Speaker 16 (02:37:40):
From a caller, Hey, how can you possibly say that
Kalen Ramsey has had a successful season this year with
the Steelers?

Speaker 15 (02:37:47):
What do you missed the entire fourth quarter for the
Steelers today?

Speaker 2 (02:37:51):
You got kicked out of the game.

Speaker 10 (02:37:53):
You can't get kicked out of the games.

Speaker 14 (02:37:54):
You want to be a leader.

Speaker 9 (02:37:57):
I just don't think that wipes out and a half
games of what he's brought to this team.

Speaker 28 (02:38:02):
Correct, And I understand the emotional ties and everybody say
you need to be cool, but the ultimate disrespect is
being spit on. And we didn't see the spit happened.
We all we saw was the rejection or ejection of
him from the game. But you go back right now,
social media is blowing up and people are zooming in
and you could see Jamar Chase. Even though he lied

(02:38:23):
about it in his postgame press conference and said I
did not spit on him, video evidence shows otherwise. And
right there, I can understand the reaction that Jalen had.
I don't I understand it. Yes, you need to have
cooler heads, need to prevail on the field. But the
ultimate disrespect is being spit on. This hard for a
man to now not do something about that. That's all

(02:38:45):
I'm gonna say about it. That things will be addressed.
And that's why Mike Tomland did not go overboard as
it relates to Jalen getting ejected from it, because he understood.

Speaker 14 (02:38:55):
Out of the fourth quarter of a game, we need
him in the game.

Speaker 28 (02:39:00):
All I'm saying is all I'm saying is man the man.
If somebody want to spit on you, you would not
sit there and say I'll take that. I'm in control
my emotions. I'm not gonna do anything. If you do
say that, you're lying.

Speaker 9 (02:39:13):
The only exception would be when you played for Coward.
He'd get in your face and he'd do it accidentally.

Speaker 28 (02:39:17):
Yes, But when you when you purposely spit on a man,
there's there's no man out here that's going to say that.
You're not going to stand there and just say, hey,
I take that, thanks for spitting on me. I'm not
going to do anything you want me to believe if
that's what you do.

Speaker 14 (02:39:32):
If you're between Dak Prescott and Jayalen Carter, we're.

Speaker 4 (02:39:35):
Talking about jam and Ramsey.

Speaker 28 (02:39:37):
We're not talking about anybody else, but again that that
when we're talking about Jalen Ramsey here.

Speaker 15 (02:39:44):
Yeah, and he got kicked out of the game.

Speaker 14 (02:39:46):
We need him in the fourth quarter of the game.

Speaker 15 (02:39:47):
Don't make excuses for it.

Speaker 28 (02:39:50):
I'm not I'm answering your question. I said, man, the man,
if somebody was to spit on you, you're not going
to stand there.

Speaker 14 (02:39:57):
No, you can walk away, anybody can you won't?

Speaker 28 (02:40:00):
You trust me, You're not going to walk away. There's
not You're getting emotional talking to me right now. So
there's no way in heck if I were to stand
here in front of you and spit on you, that
you're just going to stand there and take it.

Speaker 14 (02:40:12):
I'm not paid two million dollars to finish the game.

Speaker 15 (02:40:15):
Jalen Ramsey's paid.

Speaker 14 (02:40:16):
Two million dollars per game to play four quarters.

Speaker 9 (02:40:23):
They absolutely don't want him to get kicked out, Andrew,
But I think you know it's a big deal that
he got kicked out because of how well he has
done and because of how.

Speaker 4 (02:40:31):
Important he is to the team. Wouldn't you agree, Like, yeah,
it's it's a mistake.

Speaker 9 (02:40:36):
They don't want to see it happen again, but there
are extenuating circumstances. I think they'll uh, they'll live through it,
learn from it, and move on. But they definitely want
Jalen Ramsey out there. They're better with him than without him.
There's no question about that.

Speaker 14 (02:40:49):
Absolutely, And we're gonna bow out in the first round again.

Speaker 4 (02:40:52):
Thanks. Oh my god, Oh my god. I love Andrew
so great.

Speaker 11 (02:40:59):
I like this.

Speaker 4 (02:41:00):
Arley was getting fired, Charlie got hot. Yeah, And what
show like to me?

Speaker 19 (02:41:05):
If it's if you're supposed to be a leader of
the defense, if he's the one that's communicating to me,
that is like, maybe in an indirect way, but that's
a show of leadership. That's a that's a show of
like I'm not taking this from anybody, Like we're the
Steelers defense, Like what what We're not going to take that?

Speaker 9 (02:41:20):
I mean, it's it's nuanced. I get where Andrew was
coming from. The best players on the team should be
among the most disciplined, and.

Speaker 4 (02:41:29):
There was a lot of time. They need to be available.
There's a lot of time left. Thing it was an
eight two. He gave him a first down. I mean
it was a big deal there. That was fourth and one.

Speaker 9 (02:41:36):
But I think I went back a little later after
that to the Joey Porter thing, and you know, you
can't ask a guy to be emotionally charged and vicious
and violent, which is what they have described Ramsey as
as a as terms of environment, and then just say, okay,
go right up to that line, but never cross it.

Speaker 4 (02:41:56):
I mean, yeah, you can't be Matt Cook.

Speaker 9 (02:42:00):
And if well, and if you get spit on, that's
that's not a crackback block or a bleep talk or
something like. He felt he had to deal with that
right then and there the way he did, and I
can't say he was wrong. And I also took a
little bit of a cue from Mike Tomin just listening.
When the game ends, I go into the radio booth

(02:42:20):
and I hear Tomlin's press conference on the headset before
we start, and Tomalin didn't laugh at off, but he
wasn't livid about it. So I what I interpreted from
Tomlin's remarks was a level of understanding as to why
it happened, not an approval of it or a dismissal
of it, but an understanding.

Speaker 5 (02:42:39):
And Kinger, this is such a non football thing, you know,
it's sort of outside the lines and As Mike pointed out,
it's tough to ask these guys to be known for
being violent and give off that air of all you're
gonna run across the middle, You're gonna pay for it
and keep all those emotions in check. I mean, I
think Andrew in his call there is asking for this

(02:42:59):
perfect scenario of Jalen being able to assess the entire
situation and realize that even though he was spat upon,
it was fourth and one and you gave them a
first down and took yourself out of the game at
a time when we already have too many injuries in
the secondary to lose maybe our best player on defense
right now. Yeah, maybe you shouldn't have been john with

(02:43:19):
Chase to begin with. You know what I mean, if
you roll that back to play after you've to play,
after your one penalty away from being thrown out of
the game, maybe you should just avoid that situation.

Speaker 4 (02:43:31):
Though.

Speaker 5 (02:43:31):
That's Jalen Well I called him the best player on
the defense. I think he kind of has been for
the Steelers. Uh TJ Watt yesterday got called for roughing
the passer or you know whatever that is, abusing the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (02:43:45):
What do they call it?

Speaker 5 (02:43:46):
Now where he put all his weight on him or
something like that. The elder Flacco. I believe that is
the case. Personally, I'm not sure like Jean's territor whether
or not it constituted roughing the power sir by putting
his weight on him. But even if it did, I'm
okay with taking the chance to put a shot on
Joe Flaco and get you one play closer to Jake

(02:44:08):
Browning at quarterback.

Speaker 4 (02:44:09):
Max was beside himself on that call.

Speaker 5 (02:44:11):
And of course we can't hear when they go to
Jean's territor or whatever I mean, right, the only thing
I could think of was it certainly wasn't late was
and is that what they said that they he leaned
on him?

Speaker 4 (02:44:21):
He put the weight out, Yes, yeah he did.

Speaker 5 (02:44:25):
He could have done a better job of barrel rolling
off of him, yes, But I have no problem with it.

Speaker 9 (02:44:31):
That is a difficult spot that they put these defenders in,
but that is the protocol.

Speaker 4 (02:44:36):
Yes, you have to be able to hit the guy
and not land on him. If he land on him,
it's a penalty.

Speaker 5 (02:44:41):
I was okay with them landing on him even if
it was a penalty, because maybe they won't call it
and at that point in the game, knock him out.
Welcome mister Browning. By the way, I hope I don't
know who the Bengals are playing this week. They're not
playing the they're not putting. I think that the Ravens
at the Jets and then the Bengals, maybe because I

(02:45:03):
want to see if they're going to do something with Chase,
but I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (02:45:06):
I certainly would not want to see him get suspended
for the Ravens. Patriots. Keep him out there, Okay, okay, good, good,
all right.

Speaker 5 (02:45:12):
Yeah, the Ravens are the week after and that's a
Thursday night game that's right in Baltimore. That's Thanksgiving. Oh
yeah right, yeah, Thanksgiving night. We get Bengals Ravens. Nice
sweet play the over. Rob King with a power hour
of Steeler Talk this morning. This half hour was brought
to you by Clearview Federal Credit Unit. Thanks to Tim Benz,

(02:45:34):
Thanks to Jerry do you Lack, Thanks for our buddy
Jeff Conkle for hanging out with us this morning as well.

Speaker 4 (02:45:38):
You still going to do mister Wednesday this week?

Speaker 19 (02:45:40):
Yeah, well we got to see but yeah, not to
confuse people more, but yeah, we'll work that up.

Speaker 4 (02:45:46):
Well, I just wanted to give you a chance to
pimp something if you weren't coming on one.

Speaker 19 (02:45:50):
No pimping is going on right now. I pimped something
last week. We had a sellout show at Low Level. Yeah,
that was nice.

Speaker 4 (02:45:56):
How to go it went?

Speaker 19 (02:45:57):
It went phenomenally well, and I was like, going, I've
had like three bad gigs like sparsely attended beforehand, and
I'm looking around, I'm like wow, like like really, I'm
like surprised at it.

Speaker 4 (02:46:09):
And my one friend she goes, yeah, you promoted it.

Speaker 19 (02:46:13):
I was like, oh, yeah, I guess that is how
that if you tell people about it, someone might show
up to it.

Speaker 4 (02:46:19):
Woods and whatnot. Feel the Dreams is all about that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:46:24):
So yeah, in the wake of Bill's departure from the show, here, yeah,
we're just gonna try to figure out some stuff and
have some friends hang out with us here for the
next few weeks while we figure out what's next. Because
that all happened super quick, and none of us thought
it was going to go as quickly as it all did.
But I was really glad that we got to give
him such a sweet send off last week, and it
was nice. It was fun and that all the listeners

(02:46:45):
showed him as much love as they did, and he
was really feeling it and it was great. It was
great and he deserved it, so I was really and
we had awesome cake afterwards.

Speaker 6 (02:46:52):
We did have that oak On Bakery take.

Speaker 5 (02:46:56):
They brought us a cake. I told him it was really,
this is almost worth you leaving like it was that
good that in the fridge you can get on the
way out there. No, but there's some half eaten like
jalapeno pizza in there that if Johnny Hartwell didn't already
heat it up in the microwave.

Speaker 4 (02:47:12):
It's all yours.

Speaker 26 (02:47:14):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:47:14):
That's it for us for today.

Speaker 5 (02:47:15):
Tomorrow on the show, Charlie Batch, Jeans terrator, Billy Gardell,
and Joe Bartnik will be live in the studio with us.
Michelle's up next, Kinger. Thank you, you're the bests. Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (02:47:23):
That's it for us. Have a great day, everybuddy. You
stay classy, Pittsburgh. Don't touch your face.

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