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November 13, 2025 44 mins
Mark is joined by comedian Jim Florentine before his shows in town this weekend. Gerry Dulac calls in to talk Steelers before the Bengals game Sunday. Ask Mark Anything! Riverhound Luke Biasi joins the show ahead of the Hounds Eastern Conference Final Match.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
I guess right now is in time to do comedy
Tomorrow night at the Squirrel Hills Sports Bar and Saturday
night at Alter Genius Brewing and Imperial from that Metal Show.
Always a pleasure to talk to my buddy, Jim Florentine. Jim,
I happened to see last night a clip on YouTube.
I'm glad to hear you've joined the Live Love Laugh brigade.
It's never too late, is it.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah? Well, you know, I think that's a requirement for
every house. When you move in, you got to get
that Live Love Laugh signed you go over anyone, any
house warming party has to have that on the wall.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Does it actually require living, loving and laughing?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Though?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's kind of where I would would feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's the problem. I remember when I was married, my
wife got that hung in the house, and then one
day she got mad that I left a dirty fork
in the sink overnight and she's screaming at mem I'm
just pointing a sign, honey, Live Love Laugh. I mean,
it's just a dirty four I'll clean it.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
She didn't buy it, though, did she?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
No, We've got divorced a week later.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well, there you go. I find comedy now really intriguing
because everybody has chosen the side, and I guess the
key is to not care, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I don't care. I never care what anybody's doing. Everybody
could do whatever they want. I don't care your political views.
I don't care what kind of material you do. I
just do my own thing. I've always been like that.
I root for every comedian. I want them to do
all well. Always. I've always been like that.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
You root for the Miami Dolphins too. That's not going
so good, is it.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's unbelievable, Like the worst time. I need Mike McDaniel
out of there. I just want a coach that wears
pants that reaches ankles. That's all I'm asking. My grandmother
wears the same capri pants he does. And now you're
playing at Washington on Sunday, No Jadon Daniels. You know,
mclaurin's out, the whole team. Half the team's on McConkie.

(01:54):
So they're going to win another game. And then they
got the Saints after that. So I'm gonna be stuck
with this guy another year.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know, I thought of this. I thought of you
when I saw this SoundBite. I heard it played it
today from Terry Bradshaw talking about how we shouldn't assume
Brady's the best quarterback ever. I agree with that, and
I know you're a big fan as am I of
Dan Marino, Miami quarterback. Pittsburgh guy. Is he the best
quarterback ever despite not having won a Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know, I don't know, you know, Brady was Marino.
Marino definitely had a better arm, is more exciting to watch.
But I gotta go with Brady over him, even though
I'm a Miami fan. You know, I just think over
the years, the clutchiness of Brady, not that Marino didn't
have it either, you know, the pressure situations and always
bringing him back, and I'd have to get Brady the

(02:42):
nudge over Marino. But Marino phenomenal. I mean, I watched
my kid watch as the highlights. Who watch him on YouTube?
He's like, that's unbel go. Yeah, this was every week
for frigging seventeen years.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
He threw like this and the dart right from the
ear just an incredible, incredible delivery. Bradshaw pointed out, did
he Bradshaw is four to oh and Super Bowls Montana
four to oh and Super Bowls Brady seven and three.
Given that, who would you pick to win a big
game out of those three? Or would you go off
the board for somebody else?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Maybe Montana. Montana was unbelievably clutch two, so I'd probably
taken Montana over over Brady. But Brady never threw that
big pick in the Super Bowl. Not two minute drive,
you know. Peyton Manning did it as first Colts, you know,
the Super Bowl, like late early in the fourth corner
and blew it, you know, and they ran all the
way back. So I don't know Between Montana, I didn't watch,

(03:33):
you know, I was watching football as a kid, but
they weren't on every week, so I couldn't see all
the Montana forty nine ers games. But I don't know
him and Brady. I'd say a ty Bradshaw had an
unbelievable defense and an unbelievable offense and great receivers, so
that was easy to win them.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
We're talking to Jim Florentine. He's at the Squirrel Hills
Sports Bark tomorrow night and an alter Genius brewing in
Imperial on Saturday. Jim, we got to talk to the
metal like we always do. We had John five on
the show earlier he's in time for solo show Monday Night.
Where's he ranked among today's guitar players and how do
you think he fits with Motley?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
No, he's great. I mean, you know, you don't want
to get another Mick Marris that you know, he has
to look like Mick Marris, which a lot of bands
do to' get like a guy that kind of looks
like I'm oh, my cutest priest will get another guy
with blonde hair to fill in for KK Downing. It's
like KK Downing son, It's like but no, I mean,
he's amazing and if you go to like one of
his solo shows, just what he could do on the guitar.

(04:30):
He's phenomenal him And what's his face from? Why am
I thinking of? From Extreme Nun? Those two are my
favorite current guitar players.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, they're both dynamite. Nuna was so good at the
Azzy Thing. And here's another one you called a while back,
Kiss is playing again in Vegas without makeup. That didn't
take long, did it? No?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Of course? You know, I really think it based in
and Die that they would have tried to get at
least get Ace back in the bank, and maybe Peter
would come out and do five songs, and that's how
it would do the next tour after they retired. That's
the only way they could sell it. And I really
think that they're you know, that was going to be
their plan. I don't know the Ace and Peter didn't
know it, but that's what Gene and Paul were doing.

(05:15):
Geene and Paul are sitting home and watching all these
bands sell all these you know, stadiums out and arenas
and making all this money, and they're like, what are
we doing? So of course they're going to be back.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
What do you make of the rush? Comeback? Good, bad
and different?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I love it. I love it. Look, Neil's not around
any but what are you gonna do? And if people
want to see it? And you got that girl. I
watched some videos on her. She's unbelievable. It's tough to
you know, fill Neil's you know, shoes. But I think
it's great. I think it's great for the fans and
good for them to do it.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I saw McCartney here on Tuesday and Robert playing a
couple weeks agoing Wheeling, and both were incredible. Both have
maintained their dignity. I mean, I don't blame anybody who
keeps doing it, but I give credit to guys that
age a little bit older even to do it as
well as those two.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
There's another one, John Fogerty eighty years old. Phenomenal, phenomenal too.
I know, it's amazing that they could still do it.
Paul McCartney, isn't there like a three hour show or something.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
About two hours and twenty minutes. He does thirty five songs.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Wow, that's incredible. I mean, now, Robert Plant, I haven't
seen him in years. Can he still hit the notes?
Is he doing he Zeppelin?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
He does like like six Zeppelin songs, but it's all
like the acoustic e stuff like Gallows Pole, ramble on
the Rain song. It's really good though he chooses the
material well, here was the best. Here was not the
best part, but a big pop the encourse, gallows Pole,
and in the middle they do like about two verses

(06:43):
acoustically of Black Dog, and the crowd goes insane.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
See I'll tell you, man, I gotta be honest. I
never was a big fan of Black Dog or the
song rock and Roll. I thought they were way overplayed
and that it's almost like Black Sabbath the song Paranoid.
I don't like that song. I don't think it's good.
They got so many other great songs and saying with Zeppelin.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
No, I agree, there are some songs I don't need
to ever hear again. Does that make sense? Like like
if I never heard Stairway to Heaven the Freebird again,
I'd be.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, absolutely absolutely, But yeah, I don't know. But that's
great that Robert Plants. It's amazing though that they were
going to do that. You know, that concert in the
Desert a couple of years ago with all the old
bands and Zeppelin got off with fourteen million dollars to
do two shows over a course of two weekends, and
Robert Plant turned it down.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Dude, I heard they got offered something like that to
do like two or three shows at the Sphere in Vegas,
because imagine the graphics you could do on that wall
with them. But I heard not only did Plant not
want to, but Page just thinks that he Page can't
do it.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Now. Yeah, it's probably true, but but you know two
three years ago when they did that, look all Robert
Plant has to do and goes, hey, listen man, when
I sang those songs. I was in my young twenties,
I was singing on a different level and stuff like that.
I'm old now. I'm gonna try my best, and I
hope you guys are cool with it. I'm going to
give him one hundred percent, but I'm not going to
be able to hit that stuff. And that's and everyone

(08:06):
to understand. Everyone's getting old. Everyone they're watching them is
getting older. So we understand now.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
In that vein, I don't think we've ever talked about
Greta van Fleet. What do you think of them?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I love him, you know. I saw him in the
club in New York City when the first EP came out.
It was phenomenal, even though it was you know, Verry
led zeppelet it. You know, I haven't been found them
as much, but I saw him from Metallic. I was
at that show at this deal where Panca Pacy.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Park, right. I remember that, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, and they were great. That was the last time
I seen them. And you know what's great about them,
They're bringing young people into to rock, to hard rock,
which you needed a band to do that. They're almost
like what Dane Cook did the comedy. He brought young
people in the comedy and then they discovered other comedians
and that's what's happening. I couldn't believe all the young
girls and young kids that were they are to see
Greta van Fleet. It was really cool to see they

(08:52):
knew every word and stuff. I'm like, that's good for music.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, they're good kids too. I've had the guitar player
Jake on the show. I hate when some of the
old bands, like even Plant kind of criticized him. I
want kids to do it. Kids are supposed to do it.
And uh, I think the funny part is the lead
singer Josh came out as gay and just eavesdropping at
the last show I saw them at. It makes the
girls want him even more.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
It's correct. I'm gonna try that because I'm single, I'm gay.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well there you go, Jim Fuarantine gay ladies, come come,
try to come, try to come, try to talk to
him at the Squirrel Hill Sports Bar tomorrow night. Now,
one thing I know you're pissed about, and me too,
and the Osborne family too, because you know you were
at the final show at Villa Park in Birmingham. How
about what Roger Waters said about Ozzie, like like keep

(09:40):
it to yourself. Even if you feel that way, why
would you do that at that moment? And plus which
he's totally wrong.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, Roger, you know he's such a bitter man and
you know everybody hates him. You know when he just
says stupid stuff and it's like, yeah, you keep that
to yourself. Maybe when Ozzie was alive, when the Osbourne
was on, you go, hey, I think he's making a
fool of himself bumbling around. You know. I guess you
could critique it then, but you know, the guy just
passed away, he's a music legend. I think he got

(10:07):
jealous all the love that Ozzie got. I really do,
because I've never seen anything like it. I mean, we'll
get that when McCartney passes away and like Mick Jagger
or Keith Richards. But I could not believe worldwide, like
everywhere was the Azzie stuffing every stadium playing Ossie songs
and Black Sabbath and something. It went on. It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'll be honest, though, I think, with all due respect
to the names you just mentioned, I don't think they'll
get quite the same. And I underlined the word love
that Ozzie did because Ozzy was that kind of guy.
You felt like you knew him, And even though I
wasn't the biggest fan of the Osbourne's reality show, maybe
that helped with what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
True, You're right, because it really did humanize Ozzie and
you saw him like this rock star trying to figure
out how to work the remote, and you know, you
never would think you'd see that size of them, and
then you know, doing all the commercials and all that stuff.
So yeah, maybe it did. But I could not believe.
I didn't think it was going to be that big
that the love that he got.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Jim is always a pleasure to talk to you. What
do we going on store for tomorrow night at the
Squirrel Hill Sports Bar?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's gonna be great, man. I'm looking forward to them
into Pittsburgh probably in like the year and a half
two years. I got a whole new comedy set and
I'm working on I'm going to film a special in
a few weeks or so, I think. So it's ready
and I think it's it's gonna be a good set
I'm looking for. I always love coming to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
And you want me to reemphasize to the girls that
you're gay.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Correct yes, and see if they show up and see
if he could turn me.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
That's Jim Florantine. Jim, We'll see it tomorrow night. Thanks
a lot.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I appreciate it. Mark.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's Jim Florentine. See him tomorrow night at the Squirrel
Hills Sports Club and Saturday night at Altered Genius Brewing
Imperial One. Funny guy at True Metal had great guy,
known Jim for years. Get some calls in. I could
use some calls. We have Dulac talking Steelers at the
bottom of the hour. I'm Mark Madden. One oh five
nine Friday afternoon.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
The Pen's face off against the Predators. Game time is two.
Our coverage starts at one. Listen to every game and
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Penguins what L five nine d X.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
This takes too long to get to the chorus, which
is rare for an Aba song, But today's an Abba
tribute all day because the Penguins are in Sweden. That
movie Mama Mia. Meryl Streep was in that, but I
never watched it. Even though I love Abba. That just
would have been an overdose of Abba. I think there
are certain things I love, but in small doses. Abba
is one of those. We got Jerry Dulac talking Steelers

(12:30):
at the bottom of the hour. I love how today's
show's gone quarantined a little bit ago. John five from
Botley Crue in the two o'clock hour he's gonna be
at Jurgles Monday night. I'll be there for that. I
like shows like this, and maybe it's not the formula,
but I'm sixty four, I've made my money, I've got

(12:50):
my listeners. I'm long since past the formula. Some of
the topics today drive me crazy, too, like Paul Skeen's
and what he said after he won the cy Young
giving people the notion that he's gonna stay in Pittsburgh
and win in Pittsburgh. There's just no chance of that happening.
John Gruden saying that Will Howard has what it takes
to start in the NFL, and Steeler fans latching onto

(13:12):
that thinking he might be the future. There's no chance
of that happening. The Steelers losing to the Bengals Sunday,
there is a chance of that happening. I think the
game's losable. Steelers favored by five and a half, bit
flat goes to boge quarterback, he beats the Steelers. Nobody
can cover Chasin Higgins. Rogers looks like he's in a funk.

(13:33):
May stay there, and might I add, even though Aaron
Rodgers is much more the quarterback on his career over
Joe Flacco. Flaco's won a Super Bowl. Like I said,
he's the Steelers bogey quarterback. And one thing Flaco's done
in Sincy that Rogers ain't done in Pittsburgh. Flacco gets

(13:53):
the ball with consistency to their primary weapon, Jamar Chase,
whereas Rogers can't do that. Now, whose fault was that
in Pittsburgh? Is it Rogers? Is it DK? Is it
Arthur Smith? I don't know, I don't care, But that's
the big money combination. Rogers the Metcalf. It ain't working,
but it is working in Cincinnati for Flaco and Chase

(14:16):
Higgins too. And don't forget that's with Flacco deputizing for
the injured Joe Burrow. I think the Steelers probably will
win on uh Sunday, but I am sure come watch
the game with me at Carson's. Carson's Tavern and Scottdale
great place. They make pecha with Cheddar cheese and sounds
like you wouldn't like that, you would, it's unbelievably good.

(14:40):
And also, oh, mister Friday Afternoon, we're off tomorrow, no
show for me and Tom because the Penguins play, We're preempted,
So we want to have mister Friday Afternoon on. So
I have his picks. He went five and one last week,
and he will say that we didn't have him on
because he went five to one, and there's some truth
in that. Now twenty four and twenty on this he
avoided getting fired by finishing over five hundred these past

(15:03):
two weeks. His picks are Bengals plus five and a half,
San Francisco minus three that is the daily double. Miami
minus two and a half is his game of the week.
And let's see what should I pick for the Super Collider.

(15:26):
I'm gonna go with the Bengals. The Bengals is the
super Collider because honestly, I think the Bengals plus five
and a half is a lock. Bengal's gonna score points.
And people say repeatedly that that Bengals defense can't stop
the Steelers offense. Yeah, the Bengals defense can't stop nobody,

(15:47):
but the Steelers offense can stop itself like it did
at La. Let's go to Doug Doug real quick.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Hey, good evening, mister Madden. I had a question for
you as far as what mister Yoi said earlier. He
was saying that the Penguins had an op day on
Saturday and that.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Probably be at the Abba Museum.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
I was tooling around Stockholm today and I ran into
Russ and Matha at the band at the Vasa Museum
where they have the sixteen thirty seven ship date failed
one thousand feet thousand yards.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
You're in Sweden.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
You're calling from Sweden.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
I am in Sweden.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
What to see the Penguin game?

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:26):
I have prot road tickets for the fourteenth and the sixteenth,
and I also have tickets for an open practice on
the fifteenth.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I should have gone. So so who'd you see out
russells uh Mantha And they were what what kind of
museum at.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
The Vasa Vasa Museum? What the hell was the big
sixteenth Vasa.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
A screw that they should at the Abba museum? Ab
inverted b a wait, I think the first bes inverted.
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The Talk Steelers. Nobody better to talk it with than
our man with the Post Gazette. He is Jerry Dulac.
Jerry up. This Cincinnati game, people are assuming a win,
but they did lose at Cincinnati, and this game two
feels kind of losable, doesn't it?

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Well, Mark, Any game with them appears losable, and most
games appear possibly winnable. But yeah, I mean you saw
what happened last time. It was a Cincinnati team that
no business running with football, ran it worse than anybody
in the league, and come in and guards the Steelers
and then of course Joe Flacco just torturing them with

(19:24):
Jamar Chase twenty three targets, sixteen catches, you know, got
wide open pretty much the entire game. I still go
back to that last series when after the Steelers get
one stop, one defensive stuff. The Bengals scored seven their
last eight times, but the Steelers get one important stuff,
get the ball back and Aaron Rodgers throws that sixty
eight yard touchdown the Pat Fryarmouth and then the Bengals

(19:47):
get the ball with two minutes to go, and it's
fifteen yard thirteen yard, fifteen yard completions wide open to
the sideline. Did Jamar Chase? Nobody can test it. And
that was just kind of, you know, symptomatic of what
happened the entire game. And now their secondary is reconfigured.
So this secondary that they brought in to quote run
and cover with anybody's now has now disappeared. Jalen Ramsey's

(20:12):
playing safety, Darius Slay has a you know's in concussion protocol.
I'm going to assume he's not going to play, and
you know he's kind of struggled anyhow. And so the
five guys that they brought in, Juan Thornhill has been waived. Yeah,
I know, they got a couple of new guys. Sante
Samuel's not playing for a couple of weeks. But you know,

(20:33):
it's it's an entire it's a revamped secondary from from
the one that they thought was going to, you know,
come in and handle Jamar Chase and t Higgins and
it just blew up in their face. And so now
what and so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well, staying with that, who do you think is going
to cover Chase on Sunday because he towarched Ramsey the
last time? What's the plan going to be?

Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah, Mark, I'm not exactly sure. I mean, it's not
like Brandon Eckles is a shut, shutdown guy. He's a
nice slot corner. You know, I tell you the guy
who stood out the other day to me was James Pierre.
You know this guy, you know, he's like the defense's
Mason Rudolph. You know, they they never make him a
starter whenever he's played, he's been solid, but they always

(21:17):
look for somebody better. And yet the other night in
LA I don't want to say he was their best
defensive back, but he might have been their best defensive back.
So I think you're going to see him play a
little bit more. But Mark they you know, if they
think they're going to go and play man coverage again,
if they're going to play man coverage, they better get
up on the line of scrimmage and bump these guys

(21:39):
because if Joe Flacco wants to get rid of the
ball quickly, why you would give them soft man coverage
is beyond me, because that's exactly what happens. They go
the three yards, they make a cut, he gets them
the ball, and off they go. And so if you're
not going to play press man coverage and disrupt their
timing and these guys at the line of scrimmage, then
you might as well play some kind of you know,

(22:00):
zone coverage, you know, with some man underneath or whatever
it is they want to do and try and stop
them that way.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Why does Joe Flackehof's the success against the Steelers, Jerry
especially recently in kind of his journeyman phase you.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Know, Mark guy's looking up today. He's twelve and thirteen
against the Steelers, and that's he has more wins than
any other quarterback in the league than against Mike Tomlins.
And that probably shouldn't be surprising because of all those
years he's with the Baltimore Ravens. So and when you
talk about recently, I mean, he knows how the Steelers play,

(22:37):
and he sees what they're doing almost before they do it.
And so if you want to try and trick them,
he's going to make you pay. If you want to
blitz them, he's going to throw where you where you
now aren't. And if you're going to sit back and
not pressure them, then he's going to sit there and
wait for his guys to come open. You know, he's
very much like Aaron Rodgers in that regard. But Mark,

(22:58):
he was always a great a great deep throw of
the football. Is the best deep throw of the football
that I have seen in terms of being around and
covering guys. Now, maybe not that anymore, but he was
the best with the Ravens. And he's he's just he's
very smart, he's very accurate, and he still has a
great throwing motion and he still can throw it deep
and he can still throw it with some with some

(23:19):
powder to it. So yeah, he's he He's had a
lot of success against the Steelers, but the Steelers have
beaten him a number of times too.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Did Aaron Rodgers just have a bad game in l
A Or is it maybe worse than that? Because he
looked rattled from the get go, didn't he?

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yeah, he did, Mark, and he looked discombobulated, rattled, whatever
you want to call it.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
And he even said he you know, he you know,
it was obvious he did not play well. You know,
it was this uh lowest passer rat six, the second
lowest passer rating he's had in the in the last
six years. You know, his completion percentage was like the
worst in thirteen years or whatever the heck it was.
It just it just wasn't a good game for him.
But you know, the people who as think it well

(24:00):
automatically starts. He's looking like he's a forty two year
older soon to be forty two year old. It was
just two weeks earlier, Mark that the rest of the
league was amazed that this guy, after the Cincinnati game
still had so much left in his tank and that
the Steelers were talking to him about coming back next year,
which is a bunch of malarkey. But you know, so
then one game, three weeks later, one game later, everybody's wondering,

(24:24):
Oh it was Aaron Rodgers washed up. So it was
one game Mark, he did not play.

Speaker 9 (24:27):
Well.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
We'll see how We'll see how he responds. Certainly, the
opportunity to have a big response, just like the last
Cincinnati game should be there. You know, they've allowed I think,
what is it, mark, thirty nine points and four hundred
and ninety yards on average in their last three games.
And you know their defense is just is horrible and

(24:49):
against the run too. I mean they've you know, Mark,
when you think about they've allowed five hundred and forty
yards roughly rushing the last two games. So Jalen Warren
had one hundred twenty seven first game, he could he
might have that at halftime if they want to. They
should be able to run the ball with needs against
the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I think Aaron Rodgers has mostly done pretty good up
until the LA game. Jerry the only failing. I really
I don't know who to pin it on, but Flaco's
gotten the ball to Chase all the time. Why can't
Rogers get at the Metcalf? Who's that on?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Well?

Speaker 5 (25:20):
I think part of it is because well, you know, look,
I'm not gonna sit here and say the teams are
single covering Jamar Chase, because you know they're they're you know,
you're running their defense around where number one is. But
they also have T Higgins and that's the that's the difference.
And so if you want to spend all your time
making sure Jamar Chase doesn't catch the ball, then T

(25:41):
Higgins is going to kill you as well. And so
that's the difference. But mark to your point, though, they're
going to have to start doing things to get DK Metcalf,
you know, more more catches, more targets, and more catches.
Now we've seen him have some issues dropping the ball.
That's always been the case with him, and he certainly

(26:03):
is doing it again. But if he's your number one guy,
you're going to have to make sure he gets more
than four or five targets a game. You have to
start making sure he gets ten to twelve targets a
game and find some way to have that happen. The
other way that's going to happen is by having other
capable receivers who you have to worry about. And you

(26:23):
can see that these teams are saying, okay, if we're
going to make sure dk Metcalf doesn't catch the ball,
and if you want to throw it to your other guys,
you go right ahead, because we I'm not too worried
about them. And that's part of the problem.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
We're talking to Jerry Doulac of the PG brought to
us by bud Light, Easy to Drink, Easy to Enjoy.
The thing that scares me the most about this game, Jerry,
is I know that Bengals defense is really bad, I
mean really bad, but I also know the Steelers offense
can stop itself.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Well, Mark, we say, well, we've seen that at the
last two games. And despite the fact that Aaron Rodgers
threw four touchdowns against the Colts, you know he had
a lot of short fields because of those that overs
and he made most importantly, he made the Colts pay
for those mistakes. But you look at their offensive totals,
Mark from that game, two hundred and twenty five yards.
What did they have against the Chargers two hundred and
twenty one yards. So that two game total is the

(27:14):
second lowest two game total since twenty nineteen. That's going
back to when Randy Fittner was the coordinator. So that's
been the problem with the offense. Jalen Mooren ran well
last week, mark seventy yards the average five yards of
carry two catches twenty one yards.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
But he's not.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
Getting the ball. He's not getting the ball enough, he's
not touching enough. And Aaron Rodgers said that after the
game he needs to touch the ball more. And so
you look, so the Steelers want to point up. Mike
Tomlins said this, Arthur Smith says this, and it's true.
They don't have enough. They're not running enough offensive plays
to get those kinds of touches. And so you look

(27:51):
at what's happening. The Chargers ran sixty nine plays mark
the Steelers ran fifty. That's a nineteen play disparity. But
that's the way it's been the entire season. The Steelers
are running the few or averaging the fewest plays in
the league fifty five. The average for the league is
sixty six. They're running fifty five and their opponents are
getting sixty nine. That's a fourteen play disparity. Every game

(28:15):
they haven't had more offensive plays than the opponent in
any game this season. And there's a number of reasons
why the defense can't get off the field, the offense
can't convert third downs, but whatever the case may be, running,
they're not having enough offensive plays to get more targets
for DK Metcalf, to get more carries or touches for
Jalen Warren. And so that's happening. When Mike Thomas said

(28:39):
this the other day, why that's happening is more concerning
than the fact that's happening. They're trying to figure out
why it's happening or addressing the issues that are making
it happen. And that's you know, to me, that's where
a large fault of the offense lies, but also the
defense that can't get up the field.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Jar one thing that's confined me, Well, why are the
tight ends so pedestrian when that was supposed to be
the strength of the offense that group and its diversity.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Well, it's because, you know, I think the biggest surprise,
and I say that more like the biggest disappointment is
johnning Smith, the guy who had eighty five catches or
whatever it was last year for nine hundred yards whatever
the number was, and he looks nothing more than pedestrian.
For the most part, has not been a big factor
in the offense. The fact that they haven't involved Pat

(29:30):
Freyermuth more other than the first Bengal game is surprising
to me. Whatever his totals are, they should be double
by now. And so the position itself gets a lot
of attention. You know that position. I think Mark as
of a couple of weeks ago, it had the second
most catches the position among any other team, any other

(29:52):
team's tight end group in the league. But none of
it is dynamic, right, So the most dynamic is the
guy that they're not using enough, and that's Pat Framan.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
How does the offensive line shake down this week, assuming
Roderick Jones does not play, how will Spencer Anderson be
at left tackle? And how confident are they to Siamalu
can can survive this game?

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Well, you know, Mark, obviously it can be very iffy
with ciam Allow because we saw what happened last time
when he tried to play and then all he did
was basically realize he couldn't play, if not even aggravate
the injury, and so you know, there's no way like
his injury is going to heal in that amount of time.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
It just doesn't.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
But if you're without Broderick Jones now all of a sudden,
you know, the good news is it's the Cincinnati Bengals
who don't pressure the quarterback very much and you might
be able to get away with it. But they you know,
when I look at that defense, it still shouldn't affect
their offense. But obviously, you know, I'm Spencer Anderson, is

(30:59):
you know that's the case? Is not you know, it's
not Broderick Jones, but Mark, we see this all over
the National Football League. Teams lose their tackles and the guards.
And the Steelers have been actually for the last three
years have been very fortunate, Yes, other than a ton
of last year with injuries on their offensive line.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Jerry, how's it going to play out? I? Like I said,
I see this game as losable. I think the Steelers
should probably win, But it says a lot about where
the Steelers are at that were what kind of this
game is a question mark at home Mark, I.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Don't think they want to play it like last time
because they know with a new you know, with a
revamped secondary, now you know, guys in different positions. You know,
not that they wanted to play it last the way
they did last time, but knowing the way they had
to play it last time, I don't think they want
to get in that kind of game. I think they
realized that, you know, they can run the ball. They

(31:52):
look at how few offensive offensive plays they've had, and
let's try and change that script and control the ball
it away from Joe Flacco. And you know, I think
it's going to be thirteen to ten. It's not going
to be an old Ravens game, but I think that's
going to try and be the plan. You know, they
got no pressure on Flaco last time, and if they try,

(32:14):
he just he just goes right where they're not and
he makes plays. So I think you're going to see
them try to run the ball, mark play a little
bit more zone defense, defensively, take away those underneath routes,
those crossing routes that just killed them last game. Guys
wide open, and I think that's kind of the way
the game is going to unfold. Yes, do I think

(32:37):
the Stevels will win, I sure do because of that
Bengals defense. But I think it's going to take I
think it's just going to have a different complexity to
it this time.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Jerry, great stuff as always, Thank you for taking the time.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
Enjoy the game, Mark always good chat with you, my friend.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's Jerry dol like breakast by bud Light, easy to drink,
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Conference Final. How about that they haven't scored a goal
in the playoffs, but they're two to zero in the
Eastern Conference Final. Football could be a funny game.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Uh.

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Speaker 6 (34:00):
Mark to let me take your money, but you won't
let me take your picture.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Those are two different kinds of trust. Hey, real quick.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Yesterday you're talking about the Chief play. I think that
was tom Akins, Pittsburgh's own tom Akins who played.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
And it was great. I just think we've overplayed what
a romantic figure art. The Chief was in Steeler's lore,
but he did found the team.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
Yeah, I mean, he wasn't in Lethal Weapon like tom
Atkins was.

Speaker 9 (34:25):
I mean I can tell you that.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Oh what was tom Akins in Lethal Weapon?

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (34:30):
Yeah, Danny Glover the original He was the one that
tried to get you know, uh Rigs to find his
daughter who was mixed up in the adult.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Try to get Danny Glover to do it, tried to
get Mark Dodt to do it.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
Yeah, right, that was tom Akins.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Wow, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
But anyway, I was calling, you know, Johnny five mentioned
you know, Mick Marr's retired from Bley Crewe. Is that
kind of like Bruce arians retiring from the Steelers. I mean,
you know, wink wink.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
There was certainly something different stories told, weren't there?

Speaker 6 (35:03):
Hey killed the machine, killed them all.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
No need to debate five. He's a good guy and
he can play. Let's go to Mike and Bridginal Mike
ass Mark anything.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Him? Mark, No, you're a tested super genius, as you've
told us.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
If you had not chosen to go into broadcasting, where
else could you have seen your life going as a career.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Well, in many respects, I feel like I've wasted my
test at IQ working in sports media. But I think
I probably would have been a haberdasher maybe selling men's hats,
like like what size do you wear? Sir?

Speaker 7 (35:37):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (35:37):
Seven and a quarter?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
See, I could do that, don't you think.

Speaker 10 (35:42):
I'm probably sure you could have done anything you wanted
to do with with an IQ out of that.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
That's that's why I was.

Speaker 10 (35:47):
Curious if there was if there was something that interest
you in in in other fields?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Oh, for sure, for sure, for sure haberdashery. Let's go
to Mic in the car, Hey.

Speaker 10 (35:57):
Mark, I was at the McCartney show on two well,
and it was phenomenal. I mean, better than I could
have imagined just in playing all the going back and
forth between the instruments. But anyway, I know, so my
question is the sound system the DPG paints. And I
know he brought McCartney. That's probably not a good example
because he brought a lot of his own equipment. We

(36:18):
were sitting in the two hundred section, and I've been
other concerts there. I've been the comedy shows, and it
just seems like the speakers there are just not great.
I don't notice it as much as penguin the game,
but I just wanted to know if maybe I'm crazy,
or if you noticed that, or anybody you've heard grape
about it.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I thought the sound for McCartney was bell clear, some
of the best sounds I've heard at a Pittsburgh concert
in years. So, honestly, sir, I don't know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 10 (36:44):
No, again, McCartney's a bad example. I think he brought
a lot of his own equipment. We were sitting, you know,
back in the two hundred.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
I just don't care what you're talking about. Let's go
to a talk back.

Speaker 8 (36:56):
Hey, Mark, do you think pitt has a chance to
ups set Notre Dame on Saturday?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Thanks I'm gonna say yeah. I mean, I'm not predicting that,
but it's gonna be a packed house. Aaron Donald's gonna
be there to get his number retired. I wonder why
Tony Dorset's not gonna be there. He I know he's
had some physical ailments, but it's fifty years ago since

(37:25):
he broke the whole deal open for pit football en
route to that national championship with three hundred yards against
Notre Dame. And Notre Dame now is a big deal.
Notre Dame then was college football incarnates. So I'm giving
pit a chance, but it's probably a coin flip. What

(37:45):
I really hope happens is that it's supposed to rain
a little bit on Saturday. I hope they destroyed the
field for the Steelers on Sunday because that would be
funny and might even benefit the Steelers. A bad field
would hurt the Bengals with Jamar Chase more than it
hurts these Steelers without a number two wide receiver. Let's
go to a talkback, Hey, Mark, I was a big

(38:06):
fan of Warren Moon growing up. Where do you rank him?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
How good was he?

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Is?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
He?

Speaker 9 (38:11):
Top fifteen, top twenty? What are your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
He ain't top fifteen or top twenty, but he was
very good. I mean, who he ever beats had some
good seasons played in the CFL. I like his story
more than I do. His legacy is, like you say,
a top fifteen or twenty, people forget, like Terry Bradshaw
said in that SoundBite a little earlier, people forget guys

(38:35):
like Auto Graham from the Browns in the fifties, forties
and fifties who won seven championships. It was a different
way to play quarterback. But he was a quarterback too.
Let's go to a talkback. Okay, we lost that guy. Okay,
up next, then we're gonna talk to Luke Biassi of
the River Hounds. They are in the USL quarterfinals, excuse me,

(39:01):
Eastern Conference Final tomorrow night at high Mark one oh
five ninety X. Joining me now from the Hunts. It's
defender Luke Bassi. Luke, you guys haven't scored a goal
in the playoffs, but two penalty kick shootouts later, you're
in the Eastern Conference Final and at home. Soccer gonna
be a funny game, can't it.

Speaker 9 (39:21):
I mean, I sure can.

Speaker 11 (39:23):
I think we've been creating chances. But you know, as
long as we're not getting scored on, and if we
have to go to pks for every single game, we'll
do what we gotta do.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, Neil Neil can lead to a good result, and
it has two times in a row for you guys,
and the defense has been stalwarts zero bowls against him. Really,
I don't think you guys have a lot of many
chances in these two games. What are you guys doing
right back there?

Speaker 11 (39:45):
I mean we've been doing the same thing all season,
just communicating with each other, being on the same page.
It's a team effort from front to back. We like
to suffocate teams and make it difficult for them to play,
and then when we're playing at high mark, it's always
for hard and difficult for teams to come in and
find a groove.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
One thing I've observed in both these playoff games, Lucas,
the opposition has been trying to go long ball, root
one over you guys to forwards, getting behind your defense.
What do you have to do to stop that? Because
really that's what I'm talking about. Not many opportunities off
that strategy.

Speaker 11 (40:18):
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of our system is to
squeeze up the field and make it hard for them
to play. So maybe the space is open, but if
we're in their face and they can't get their head
up and have the space to hit that long ball, then.

Speaker 9 (40:31):
It makes it difficult for them. And then if they.

Speaker 11 (40:33):
Do get it off, you know, it's all just about
having each other's back and knowing where the space is
and being able to recover.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Now, you had to move to center back from full
back because of injuries for these playoffs. What's that adjustment
been like for you? And how experienced are you in
the middle.

Speaker 11 (40:48):
I'm pretty experienced there last year. I actually played there
all year, so it's nothing new to me. I'm a
pretty versatile player to begin with. And you know, I
got good guys around me helping me out, and we
just a good system and everyone puts some no work
is on the same page, So I mean, it's not
too hard to jump in and try to try to
get the job done.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
What are those PK shootouts like the nerves involved? Because boy,
I mean it's not really soccer, but it determines a
winner and really for each guy taking the kick, it's
just like you know, game on.

Speaker 11 (41:21):
Yeah, I mean it all comes down to the straight
nerves when we're sitting there at the halfway line rooting
each other on if if someone doesn't go our way
or someone misses I keep telling everyone just keep thinking positive.
It's all about positive energy, you know. Or if we
miss a shot, Okay, our keepers got our back, erics
got our back. So yeah, I mean, it really does
come down to kind of a fifty to fifty sudden
death type thing, and we've been fortunate enough to end

(41:43):
up on the right side both times.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
We'll talk about Eric Dick in the back because I
think in goal he's just had a marvelous campaign.

Speaker 11 (41:51):
Yeah, I mean, this guy is unbelievable. There's so many
times in practice where we will rip a shot or
have an amazing opportunity and he saved it and we're
just like, how is that possible. Everyone's just looking around
each other, jaw dropped, and a lot of times you're like, you.

Speaker 9 (42:05):
Know what, we can't even get confidence because this guy.
You'll have a good play and he just destroyed it
right there.

Speaker 11 (42:10):
But it's an awesome guy to have on your team,
and when it comes down to situations like this and
big time moments, sudden death that's when it all matters.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
What's Rhode Island gonna be like because the top seeds,
like you know, Louisville only lost the one game all
year and they went down right away, So you're unexpected
in the final, but so were they.

Speaker 11 (42:29):
Yeah, I mean, I think we match up well against them.
We played them three times this year home in a
way and then the cup game, so I'm confident in
the matchup.

Speaker 9 (42:39):
But they're they're a difficult team. And they did the
exact same thing last year.

Speaker 11 (42:42):
They had a lower seed and they made a run
all the way to the finals and they lost in
the finals. But it's all about kind of finding that
hot streak at the right time.

Speaker 9 (42:49):
And they're running hot.

Speaker 11 (42:50):
I don't think they've been scored on like six games either.
So it's gonna be one of those tight ones where
it's who can get the big chance and to take
it away.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Now, you guys have had two selloffs at at high
Mark for both playoff games. The crowd suppeens to be
bigger than ever. They're selling standing room for Saturday. What
have the crowds been like at home for this postseason?

Speaker 11 (43:10):
Oh, it's been out of this world, I can say
that I've been here for four years now and just
seeing the growth and attention that this team and this
club and the sport have gained is insane.

Speaker 9 (43:23):
I never thought I would get to these.

Speaker 11 (43:25):
Levels, and with the new stadium, expansion and moving to
the potential League one, it's going to be huge. And
just these past two games, I've never experienced anything like
that at high Mark, and I know this game is
going to be even better, So I cannot wait. We're
making history each and every week and I hope we
can continue to do so well.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Great stuff. Thank you so much for taking a time.
We'll see you Saturday night.

Speaker 9 (43:47):
Yeah all be good hearing your voice. Mark, thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
That's look be Auesi. Don't forget River Hunts against Rhode Island.
The Eastern Conference Final six thirty kickoff an odd time
because of TV, so get there early and get tickets
now because there's only standing room left.
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