November 11, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pretty good start, and now they're in Sweden for a
couple of games. Joining me now to talk Penguins. He
played for the team. He's the original Pittsburgh Penguin, the
guy born and raised in Upper Saint Clair. You now
see him on sports at Pittsburgh. He is Bugsy Ryan
Malone bugs. We gonna talk shootout because the Penguins aren't very.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good at it.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
When you played, what was your team's shootout routine? How'd
a different from team to team? What did you guys
do to prepare?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Usually? Well, first, thanks for having me and happy Veterans
date all of our heroes out there. Of course it's
being off the dating awesome. Yeah, thanks for our freedom
with shootout for us. I think usually kind of had
your go to guys and then usually maybe a third
guy would be maybe who you know. We in practice,
you practice the shootout and the guy maybe won a
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few times and just has whatever special movement in his
bag of tricks that usually works. So I think the
biggest thing is you need to stop right the goal.
Yeah you got they let you have Shiloh that has
been playing great, but in the shootouts, for whatever reason,
he has been you know, getting beat I don't know
what his percentages, but I know it's probably below average.
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But you know, they're battling and hopefully they continue to
get themselves in those situations and just finish them over
time instead.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, it has been below average for Shiittoffs in the
shootout bugs he's a lot seven goals on eight attempts,
and you're right, I think he's played real good, you know,
up till that point, up till the shootout starts. But
given his struggles, would you sub him out for the shootout?
Would you put in Jari or morrish Off or whoever
the other goal he is when the shootout starts.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Geez, it's so hard because those guys are so cold
coming off the bed, sitting there unless you know, for
whatever reason, they feel like even in practice, he's not
able to, you know, stop the consistent breakaways. You know,
we might see that otherwise.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I think he's got to.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Roll with the guy in there and hopefully, you know,
he stops the next one.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
What were your impressions at Morrishoff, the Russian goalie who
made his NHL debut on Sunday at home in the
lost to LA.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I thought he looked great, honestly, I thought he was
just very kind of controlled and you know, really quick
and powerful with his kind of movements and cutting down
the angles. And I really kind of liked just his attitude.
Or someone I think asked him a question if he's
like thrown in the fire, how he react, and he
was just kind of like, I prepare to be thrown
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in the fire. That's my job to be in the fire.
So I think looking at Vassilevski, I'm down here in
Tampa seeing how he trains repairs and how many hours
he really puts in at the rink at his craft. Again,
those guys are well prepared before they step into that
game night, and so that they did all they can do.
And I think there he had a great mindset, and
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then even some of the goals he did lit up.
He always saw him take a few, you know, big
deep breasts and get some water and kind of reset after.
But I really liked his attitude and his movement. So
I think we definitely got a good one there.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Did the pengwins deserve better than one point? Out of
the weekends games against Jersey in LA? I thought they
definitely all played Jersey at Jersey and they're a pretty
good team off to a great start.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yes, I think definitely they probably could have had a
few more points. But I think that's where we really
notice just how hard it is to win in the NHL.
And if you have, you know, five ten minute laps.
The other team has so many skilled guys, you know,
it doesn't matter if you know everybody's name or the
All Stars and not. Everyone is so skilled. If they're
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getting these great opportunities, usually you know it might go in.
But I think you know they're playing the right way.
They're not giving up a thousand grade opportunities. I love
their their special teams. Everyone's doing it. Takes on the
penalty kill working together, and it's been a lot of
fun watching the power play snapping around and move the
puck and support each other. So it's been I think
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a great buy in from everyone. I think none of
us really should be surprised with the leadership in that room,
and you know, with the coaching staff as well, getting
everyone prepared on the same page. So kudos to everyone
so far at the early part of the season.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Eric Carson's playing really well, isn't he. I wasn't impressed
his first two seasons in Pittsburgh. But these couple months,
I think he's been terrific.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yes, I agree, I think he They put him kind
of as the obviously go to guy in the first
power play. They're given him the reins there, and I
think sometimes I think, as these elite players, making that
simple pass is like boring to them. So you know,
maybe the coaching staffage like, hey, just make that first pass,
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make that easy, high percentage play, and you know good
things are going to happen. And I think consistently, through
him and all the defenseman there, they are just trying
to make that simple play and not try to do
too much, you know, back there and force it as much.
I think everyone's just been you know, a simple, simple
game and good puck support working together.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I haven't talked to you since Ben Kendall kind it
came on strong as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What's your take on him?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I think I think he's obviously very smart player,
and he's been putting themselves in these situations to uh,
you know, find some school. But just watching him play
and you know, the coach even in those early, you know,
first five games, he was still out there last you know,
three minutes of the game, and I think that was
just those kind of like little tests to see how
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he would respond. And I was really impressed more with
his patience with the puck. Usually, like I'm thinking back
when I was even twenty some years old, it's like
off the glass and out, get rid of it real fast.
But he's really seemed composed and you know, making the
right decision and then you know, as unfortunately the injury
bug has kind of hit us a little bit, these
other opportunities have happened, and he stepped up and and showed,
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you know, he can think and play with the big
boys as well. So it's a great, uh, great future
for him.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
What would you do with Brunette?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He's been scratched a few games, he struggled a few
before that. If he plays one more, his work he
contract kicks in. I think they're thinking about keeping him
because if they were gonna send it back, I think
they would have buy now.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
But what's your call?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, I mean personally, I guess if I was put
on a GM hat, I would probably send them back.
I think the game with Pickering, they played twice, it showed,
you know, to myself, both are young, good defenseman and
they didn't. I think without having Dunba or Clifton or
you know, a veteran presence out there with him, it
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kind of showed maybe some weaknesses that maybe just a
little stronger, you know, battling in front a little maybe
quicker decisions only because we I think right now, if
they're keeping all the defensemen they have Clifton, Dumba and
now Graves up, you know they have enough guys I
think back there that can play and play that five
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to six role where if he goes back to junior,
you know he can be the stud playing twenty five
thirty minutes a night and then he really has a
good of what it takes. And then coming into camp
next year, you know, whole summer training. You know, it's
a whole different animal and player would be looking at.
So my take would be, uh to send them back.
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But I love his upside and what he brings. I
just think with the players that have now obviously not
knowing if they're playing on moving, these older guys are
not UH for to make space for him. But I would
say with the decore they have now, I would send
them back to junior, let them rip it up, build
some confidence and bring them back to.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Camp next year.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
What's your take on the coaching change over.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
What do you see Mews doing differently than Sellivan did,
because obviously Selly had a great run here, But sometimes
fresh is better and different is better.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And I think we're seeing the fruits to that, don't you.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
One hundred percent? I think you hear a lot of
time is just kind of you know, puck support and
putting pucks in places where we're going to get it back.
We're not just ringing around the boards for no reason
and giving them to their goalie, even on the and
I think it's more of thinking defense or getting on
the defense the side of the pucks, even in the ozone,
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getting up kind of in between you and your player,
and just not giving up these odd man rushes and
so many turnovers in the neutral zone when you're making
the team go two hundred feet down the ice to
earn their goal, the chances of you, you know, breaking
it up by the time because you're in are pretty
good compared to some East West plays in turnovers where
they shorten the ice and take advantage of the games.
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We kind of lost. Guys were just getting a little
sloppy with the puck or not supporting each other well,
so I think he really is keeping it simple for
the guys again, keep everyone on the same page, so
everyone's kind of on their toes and know what's happening.
And I think offensively, he's letting guys be creative. And
it's actually been great to watch the puck support. You know,
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four or five sixsses are getting snapped around the ozone
sometimes before a shot, and they're really maintaining that ozone control.
So I think it's some news. And then all the
assistant coaches have their little part right to play and
help the team, and you know, keeping I heard the
practices and lots of energy and gu some competition and
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they're keeping it light and fun and enjoying it. And
I think all around is just a great mix. And
everyone understand how hard is to win. But you know,
again we have the leadership as we.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Do and.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
The coaching now just kind of I guess, reassuring the
players that you know, if we play this way, we
can't have success. And again, these little things have added
up so far at the end of the season for
a great start for the Black and Gold.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Bugsy, you mentioned Veterans Day, which is today. Thanks to
all the veterans out there for everything they've done and
in that vein. What do we got going on with
the Malone Family Foundation. What's up next? You've had some
great events.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, thanks. We were very fortunate again to just honor
our heroes in the community with the game of hockey
and actually were Our next event is down here in
Tampa November twenty six at Benchmark Arena. We'll have close
to eighty veterans and first responders. We have all four
Warriors teams from the state of Florida participating along with
the fire and police teams here of Tampa, and we
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just got some alumni involved and we kind of do
our thing there with our Warrior Hockey Academy that you know,
we're really trying to run this program not only in Tampa,
but other NHL cities as well. So we're very fortunate
for the Lightning to open up their doors and really
help us with the ice time and sponsorships to get
on board and celebrate our heroes. And we're happy to
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announce the NHL actually has stepped in as well to
be the presenting sponsor at our academy, So we're very
excited to have the NHL on board now supporting our
mission and celebrating our heroes in the community.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well that is great news.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And let's look even further ahead, Bugsy, because in twenty
twenty six, welcially, we got the celebrity game like last year.
This year made thirteenth at RMU and the gala May
fifteenth at River's Casino, which I attended last year, and boy,
what a night that was.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, and that's we're all the support and lovely got
from that, Gal, we'd be able to roll into these
different academies in Pittsburgh, Minnesota and Tampa now, so we're
gonna bring that back and again I think even during
the day. We're gonna have a veterans kind of tournament
on that Wednesday, and we'll end the evening kind of
with a celebrity game there. So then Friday will be
at Rivers Casino again. We can't thank them enough for
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their hospitality for hosting us again this year. So we're
very excited again to be back in Pittsburgh and breaking
the mold with the block and gold Bugsy.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Great stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
We'll see as soon, I hope my best of the
boys and the big Bugsy of course, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yes, sir, all right, I'll talk to you Elier.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's why I'm alone. Check him out on sports Net Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
And of course the work he does with the Malone
Family Foundation in their Warriors Hockey Academy is just unparalleled.
We got Mike to favor at the bottom of the hour.
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kind of feel that way. I also want your thoughts
on Tomlin's saying that the Steelers have to convert more
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on third down to get Jalen War and more touches. No,
the only way to get the best way to get
Jalen War more touches is to just give him more touches.
And he's keeping Ramsey and uh Dugger as the starting safeties,
which I totally agree with. So we do got a
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Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay, So this is a great story I just heard
about on a ninety degree day in we have breaking
news with the Steelers. They have signed a Sante Samuel Junior,
the cornerback, to the practice squad. He had a spinal
fusion procedure that ended his season last year. Spinal fusion. Well,
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these go to eleven. I hope listen, this guy's not
gonna help it all. Nobody can sign as a free
agent after you've already played nine games. Is gonna help
it all? Then again, he might help more than one
Thornhill who they caught. There's a train of thought that
Marquez Valdez Scantling, the receiver, the thirty one year old,
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the old timey crony of Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay
that he's gonna get a helmet against Cincinnati Sundy at ACRESSHRU,
and I think we can agree that that would solve
all the Steelers' problems. Speaking of Rogers, I spoke at
the Talk of the show. Have I overestimated overrated how
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well Rodgers has played so far this year? He ranks
third interception percentage that means too many, not hardly any.
He ranks twenty second and completed air yards not a
lot of touchdowns, but his passer rating completion percentage, those
are man. He's not had a three hundred yard game
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passing yet this year. He was beyond awful at LA
and looked extremely rattled. So, like I said earlier on
the year, I'd maybe give him a C plus, which
would still make him the Steelers team MVP. And I've
heard further I hate to talk about this, but I'm
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gonna I.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Don't know him.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I've heard further that Rogers is bothered by that storing
the New Yor post that suggests his wife is a
phantom and might not exist, and quote Steelers wives and
girlfriends anonymously of course, who say they haven't seen her
or met her, and I'm told that bothers Rogers not
because of the story that his wife's fake, but because
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the wives and girlfriends of his teammate appear to have
cooperated with the story, however anonymously.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Also, the new.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Narrative is that Tomlin could be the coach of the
New York Giants at some point in the not through
distant future, because they just fired their coach. Rich Eisen
on the NFL Networks that it would be a great fit.
Mike Greenberg on the ESPN said it would be a
great fit. And now that has evolved locally too. The
Steelers should trade Tomlin to the New York Giants for
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their first round pick.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Ay, that's going to be a pretty good pick. Why
would they do that?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Why would they bring in a defensive coach whose offense
operates in the Paleozoic era. Why would they bring him
in to inflict that on their promising young quarterback Jackson
Darts three? Why would anybody think Tomlin would do well there?
Tomlin inherited the dog's bollocks for the situation here in Pittsburgh.
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Inherited a team two years off winning a Super Bowl
that already had great players, leaders and a culture in place.
He's going to go some place like New York and
he would just fail miserably like he has for most
of the final half of his resume here in Pittsburgh.
And fourth, and most importantly, the Steelers just aren't going
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to do that. They're just not going to trade Mike
Tomlin or fire make Tomlin, or make Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Leave by any method. He will coach as long as
he wants to.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
How could you possibly be stupid enough as to conclude
otherwise or imagine that he might be traded. But it's
a long four hours for me and for anybody else
who does this. I would just never babble about stuff
I know isn't going to happen, and that isn't going
to happen one hundred percent isn't going to happen. Anybody
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Speaker 5 (18:52):
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
Skins gets to cy Young tomorrow. Kind of anticlimactic when
you know, but we know. Joining me now to talk Steelers.
He covers the team for the athletic key is Mike
de Febo. Mike, the Steelers picked up as sante Samuel Junior,
the cornerback who just had spinal fusion about a year ago.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
How ready will he be to come in and contribute?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And boy, if you're lying a guy like that after
you've already played nine games, that says a lot about
your roster at defensive back.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yeah. I think that that's the biggest thing is there's
an opportunity there. They believe that they had turned the
cornerback position into a strength. Now they have to move
Jalen Ramsey to safety full time. At times, he's looked
like he's thirty one years old. Darius Slay looks like
he's thirty four years old, and not to mention that
move to safety by Jalen Ramsey has diminished or depleted
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their cornerback room to some degree. So you know, he's
on the practice odd to start. I don't expect he'll
stay there very long, just because he had other options
and he wanted to come to Pittsburgh recognizing that there
was an opportunity here. He primarily is an outside corner,
but he also has played in the slot, and I
think the Steelers could use bodies in both of those positions.
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So I would expect to see him. You know, I
don't know if we'll be up to speed for this week,
but sooner than later, I think he's going to be
a meaningful contributor to that defense.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I hear that Valdez Scantling is likely to get a
helmet for Sunday against Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
What do you hear? What kind of role might he
step into?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Yeah, his participation is picked up with each practice, and
you know that Aaron Rodgers behind the scenes is surely
doing some lobbying. He likes Valdez Scantling. You know, at
one point in his career he had four to three
speed and could stress a defense vertically. You know now,
I don't know that he still has that top end speed,
and I also don't know that the Steelers offense is
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that kind of offense. But he's a pretty willing blocker.
I would expect him to take some snaps from Ben Scoronick,
who kind of has that role currently a little bit.
And just because the fact that Rogers trusts MBS, I
think he's going to get opportunities because how could you
gain trust when you throw the ball to Calvin Austin,
hits him in the hands and turns into an interception.
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You know, how can you trust Roman Wilson when it's
been this long. So I think for all those reasons,
you know, I would expect him to start playing sooner
than later, and I would expect Rogers to be targeted
him sooner than later.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Today, at his press briefing, Mike Tomlins said that Jalen
Warren can't play more because the Steelers don't convert third downs.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Okay, so play him on third down.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It seems to me the simplest way to get warn
more touches, Mike is to just give him more touches.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Yeah, I would agree. I think that he's earned the
opportunity to be a real lead back, and also he's
just so good in past protection situations. I mean, I
remember sitting there watching the game live and they had
Caleb Johnson in when they were down by the goal line,
and I'm thinking, man, this is going to go really
poorly because he's just not good in pass protection. And
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you know, they gave it to him a couple of
times and then a few plays later, ultimately he took
the sack for the safety. But I just think that
Jalen he earned his It's interesting because most backs like
Caleb Johnson, you say, are they going to be hold up?
Be able to hold up in pass protection? But that's
how Jalen Warren earned his opportunity into this league. And
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just because he now has ascended to the top of
the depth chart, I think you don't want to take
away something that he was so good at, and that
was being a throwd down back in order to, you know,
help you in other areas. So I think it definitely
makes sense to play Jalen Moore more and more, to
give him the ball more, and to feature him in
all his many talents.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That Los Angeles seemed damaging. Mike like it left the Mark,
Am I reading too much into that?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
No, I think you're right, Mark, and it was significant
because you know, I'm not overseeing it when I say
there's a non zero chance that they could have missed
their chance to make the playoffs because of that loss,
Because you know, when you look at it right now,
there's a real possibility that three teams from the AFC
West could make the playoffs, and there's a real possibility
that comes down to a tiebreaker between the Chargers and
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the Steelers for which of those teams makes the wild cards.
And there's a real chance that head to head could
be that tiebreaker that keeps the Steelers out. So you know,
we have some nerd that has some model with computers
and analytics and stuff, and he claims that the Steelers'
chances of making the playoffs went from like fifty eight
percent before that game to now like thirty two percent
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after that game. So I think that that accurately reflects
how damaging that loss was. Not to mention, I think
that some of the warning signs about Aaron Rodgers play
or some of the concerns that we had, even though
I want to be clear, he's played at a much
higher level than I anticipated. Some of the concerns about
can't he throw the ball down field?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Still?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
You know, what's it going to happen when he is
he going to be willing to take the hits necessary
to make those types of plays. You know, a lot
of the concerns that I had before the year, I
didn't really see them through the first couple of games.
A lot of those concerns reared their ugly head in
this one. And so you have to ask, is this
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just a blip on the radar and a hiccup, or
is this an early warning sign of things to come?
Because in Pittsburgh we have seen this story before. We
have seen an old and aging quarterback look pretty good
through the first half or three quarters of the season,
only to see the whole thing collapse upon itself as
the season continues. And you know, in part of my brain,
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I'm sitting here thinking, is this going to be like
the eleven zero start with Ben Roethlisberger that fell apart
down the end? Is this going to be like last
year when we were talking about the Steelers maybe using
the transition to tag to retain Russell Wilson, only to
see his career basically go up in flames over the end.
You know, how is Aaron Rodgers going to respond after
his first poor performance as a Steeler?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
No, I think that's worth asking.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And one thing that people overlook, not just with Rogers,
but with the older players on the roster. Mic older
players don't rally and get better in the second half
of the season. They just get older and more tired.
But Rogers specifically, he was so bad at LA it
made me wonder if I've overrated how he's played to
this point. It made me kind of do the report
cards thing, and I grated him a C plus on
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the year, and beyond the bad stats. On Sunday, I
thought he looked sloppy and rattled. I thought he looked
bad in ways that could easily be seen to likely
carry forward.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Yeah, I think one of the biggest things that stuck
out to me is it didn't look like he wanted
to be hit. You know, a lot of those throws
that were inaccurate. I felt like if he stepped up
in the pocket threw off of two feet, it might
have been a more accurate pass. But when you're worried
about getting hit and you're throwing off of your back foot,
you're going to have ball sale on you, You're gonna
have inaccuracy issues, and so yeah, I think that, you know,
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for the more large part of the season, I think
he's done basically anything you could have asked out of
a forty one year old quarterback. But he looked like
a forty one year old quarterback that didn't really want
to be hit and didn't feel confident in anyone not
named DK Metcalf to throw the football too.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
We're talking to Mike the fable of the athletic. He's
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did the offensive line take a step backwards at LA
because Rogers was under siege and the Chargers never blitzed once?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
They say, I think the guy.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Who took the biggest step back was Broderick Jones. You know,
he allowed three sacks in the first game against the Jets.
He had allowed three sacks since then, but he really
had a rough game overall. And I'm you know, as
I watched back through it, they talked so much about
their failures on third down. On both of their first
two third downs, Broderick Jones got beat early and inside,
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and that's where you can't get beaten. If you get
beat wide and you give your quarterback a chance to
step up in the pocket or you know you you
fight through it, you're giving your quarterback a chance. But
Rogers had no chance when when Broderick was beaten early
and inside, and fellow Tanu has continued to develop with
each game that he gets, I'm gaining more and more
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confidence in him, and I think he's going to be
a solid right tackle. You know, before too long, he's
he's been solid or better than that through most of
the season. He had a rare, uncharacteristically up and down performance.
You know, specifically, he was responsible to some degree for
that that safety. So those are really the two guys
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that had the toughest outings in that game. And Broderick
in particular was the one that really you know, he
had a poor game overall. For sure.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Why are the tight ends not bigger factors? After all
that talk before the season about what a diverse room
it was that they had a lot of guys who
can do a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
They are all minor factors.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I agree with you, Mark, I mean right now, they
have two of the ten highest paid tight ends in
Pat fryar Muth and Johnny Smith, And right now they're
receiving stats in terms of like receptions, receiving yards, they're
between twenty and thirty in the league, and they're just
you can't justify paying two top ten tight ends if
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you're not getting them in the football And part of
it is Pat Frarmuth and john who have somewhat overlapping
skill sets. So Pat Frymuth snaps are down because our
this Smith is going to favor his guy, Johnny Smith,
and that just begs the question are they redundant? Do
you really need two guys who have such similar skill
sets that you're paying too much if you're not going
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to build an offense that highlights them in the passing game?
And right now, I just I just feel like what
they're trying to do is trick people by putting this
big personnel on the field and get a tight end
against the linebacker, whereas the rest of the league says,
we'll just put a wide receiver out there who can
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beat a nickel corner. And so they've taken this approach
and at this point, you know, it's producing the results
that you see on the field.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Is DK Metcalf a bust so far what's happened there,
His impact has been absolutely minimal.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
You know, I don't think he's a total bust. I
think he's still a pretty good player. But I think
there's one thing that works, and that's throwing quick slants
to DK and letting him create after the catch. And
the problem is Rogers isn't attacking downfield. The offensive line
isn't protecting well enough to do it, he's not buying
enough time to do it, he's not willing to take
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the hits, and he's not accurate enough to attack downfield.
And that's one half of what DK Metcalf does well.
Is he was, at one poin in his career one
of the better or one of the best go ball
receivers in the NFL. But when you take one half
of that away, and then the other part is he
does have a history of drops and those drops have
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been a problem, and his hands have been inconsistent, and
so you know they're asking a lot out of him.
There's also in the most recent game, it also seemed
like the Chargers really had a good plan. Their plan
was in a lot of instances they were either doubling
him in man coverage or in zone coverage they had
a safety over top of him. And so when when
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you're getting that much dedicated to him to take him
out of the game, you're counting upon some of these
other guys to step up. And that's where the lack
of depth at that position is really showing up and
really becoming a problem. So I agree with you that
DK hasn't been as impactful as you would have hoped.
And I also think that the lack of talent around
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him is also hurting his chances.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
That the defense play well at LA because it's being
made out that the offense let down the defense, and
the offense was terrible. I'm not sure how great the
defense really was with no takeaways.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Yeah, they were fine. They weren't the reason why the
Steelers lost, but they also weren't the reason why the
Steelers won. And it seems like they're just so turnover
dependent and this is such a jeckal and high defense
where they can play the number one offense in the
NFL and produce five turnovers and look really good, but
they can also give up thirty plus points to you know,
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a sixty five year old Joe Flacco who's dinner by himself,
and it seems like it's one or the other. It's
either five turnovers or thirty points and you're getting nothing
really in between. So you know, in the most recent game,
I felt like that the defense for the first half
kept them in it. And you know, it was five
to three when Rogers threw the interception. It gave the
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Chargers of the ball at the thirty eight yard line.
Fifteen of those yards in the scoring draft team when
Brandon Eckles was burned. So the problem with defense is
it's a weak link unit. And right now they've identified
the link in that game was Brandon Eckles, and they
targeted him and they exposed him. So you could spend
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as much money as you want on defense, but if
there's one guy who's susceptible on your defense, they're going
to target that guy and they're going to expose him.
And I think that that's what's happening time and time
against his defense.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Why is Flaco such a problem for the Steelers with
this game at home against since he coming up in
him at quarterback, he's their boge quarterback.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Yeah, well, in the last game, he had the quickest
time to throw of any quarterback to Steelers' face, and
really a lot of it was just getting the ball
out of his hands and getting it to Jamar Chase,
who set a franchise record with sixteen receptions. So when
you're an old guy who can't move very well, the
one thing you have his experience, and in this case
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of Joe Flacco, a lot of experience with the Pittsburgh
Steelers defense that hasn't changed much since Joe Flacco won
a Super Bowl in Baltimore. He's been facing Mike Tomlin's defense,
which hasn't changed a lot for years. He knows the
soft spots in the zones, he knows what coverages to
anticipate and to expect, and he's just taking full advantage
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and just picking them apart. And so in this game,
you know, I think it very much could be another
shootout where you're you're asking Aaron Rodgers to put up
thirty five points, and even that might not get the
job done. Because as talented as Key Higgins and Jamar
Chase are, even a guy like Joe Flacco in his
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advanced age is experienced enough and still has enough left
to get those guys the football. And because those guys
are so dynamic, you know, it makes it absolute nightmare
for teams, especially like the Steelers, to slow them down.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, and in that vein, Mike, this game is a trap,
I mean in every sense of the word. Since he's
kind of still in the race. Burrow thinks they are
and he's practicing, and that Bengals defense sucks. But the
Steelers offense could stop itself. It wouldn't shock me if
the Bengals scored thirty points and the Steelers scored ten
and their failure on offense had nothing to do with
the Bengals defense.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Yeah. In recent years, this Bengals defense has been the
cure all for whatever has ailed the Steelers offense. But
in this one, you know, how do you restart things
after such a dismal performance? And it is that performance
versus the Chargers going to carry over. And so I
think that I agree with you, Mark, I think that
this could be a disappointing day for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Finally, is Tomlin doing a good job, bad job or
in different job, Mike? And will he be traded to
the New York Giants like everybody wants now in national media.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
I think Tom's doing the same job that he has
for the last decade, which is just enough to get
the team ten and seven and preserve the non losing
season streak, but maybe not much more. I mean I
think that considering he has his fingerprints all over this defense,
and largely if you look at the entire sample size,
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the defense has been what's let them down more often
than not, I think he has to shoulder a considerable
amount of the blame. That said, the Pittsburgh Steelers do
things their way, and I just feel like, even though
it might make a tremendous amount of sense for the
Giants to trade for Tomlin, and a lot of fans
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in Pittsburgh would probably love the idea of moving on
and having a fresh start, I feel like the Steelers
aren't going to want to conduct a search to find
their next coach for the next twenty five years, and
I think they're gonna view it just like that that
they have to find a guy for the next twenty years,
and for that reason, I think they'll take the risk
adverse and the conservative approach and keep Tomlin and keep
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doing the same on things.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Same as it ever was Mike, great stuff. Thank you
for taking the time.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Absolutely, Mark, thank you for having me.
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Steelers served in World War Two, including Aaron Rodgers and
Darius Slay.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
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Speaker 6 (37:37):
What up? What up?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Mark? Talk?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
I was wondering what's uh?
Speaker 9 (37:42):
Hey, I was wondering what your opinion was on the
penalty called on the Kudos in the last game of
your Mark Medden tournament on Sunday, The rocking call in overtime.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, obvious call. Obvious check. Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, a penalty in overtime is the same as call
it a penalty any other time.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Let's go to Dick in Churchill, Dick, what's up?
Speaker 10 (38:04):
So you know, I'm sure we all remember a few
games ago when I think it was Warren didn't get
the memo with the fleef liquor or whatever, and he
gave it back to Rogers, and Rogers like threw it
on the turf.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
In disgust, it seemed.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
And that brings me to Sunday night where that fourth
and sixth to DK metcalf It seemed like it had
absolutely no chance, and I just wonder if Rogers it
was almost his way of saying, you know what, this
is all you're gonna give me.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
No, that's not his way of subtly suggesting he's unhappy.
He's trying to throw a touchdown to get the Steelers
back in the game. However, if you injected Rogers with
sodium pentathal truth serum, I would love to ask him
if playing for the Steelers is anything like he thought
it would be, because I doubted it is. I adopted
it's lift up to the expectations he had before he
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signed with the Steelers. Let's go to Dave.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Ask Mark anything, Hey, Mark, check it out.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Do you hear about that Antonio bron thing where he
grabbed the security guards guards Guy's gune, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I think that's the case. He got extradited for correct
brought back to America.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
I believe so, I believe it is.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I mean, does anything goofy that ab does really surprise
you at this point.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
No, he's a piece of work.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I said back when he played for the Steelers, said
wind up in jail. That may yet happen. Let's go
to Dave Dave ass Mark anything him.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Mark Hey, next week in Greensburg is Queen's Reich and
accept and I just want to getr opinion on those
bands or if that's to show you at its.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Tenth, no interest whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I like a couple accept songs like Fast as a
Shark and of course Balls to the Wall. But no,
I'm especially not a big fan of Queen's Reich. I've
met Todd Dlatori, their new singer, a bunch of times.
He's an okay, I hated what was the Jeff Tate
I interviewed him on a dink.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I don't much like their song, so I'm not gonna go.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Let's go to a talkback, Mark, what will it take
for coach t to regain your trust?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
It can't happen. He's been too bad for too long.
I think he's a phony. I think he's a horseman
or artist. I don't like him, and I wouldn't let
trust him to wash my car let alone coach my
football team.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
He is the single most.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Overrated coach in sports history, not just football sports history.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
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Speaker 4 (40:43):
Hey.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
I was wondering if Edmonton misses the playoffs, which doesn't
seem all that unlikely right now. Do you think McDavid
would force his way out of there, Well.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
He signed a two year contract, you know, to give
them a chance to defecate or get off the pot.
But you know he's been in the last two Stanley
Cup finals. He slumped at the end of both of
those series. I think he has to take X amount
of blame. But I don't think this year would hasten
his exit. But I think I don't know. I think
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if they don't win a Cup by the end of
next season, I think at that point they have to
trade him unless he signs another extension.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
Yeah, yeah, I know you talked about how they need
a goalie, but they're just no one.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
To get nobody to get correct. Let's go to a.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Talkback super genius Eric and Toledo. Who was the better
number fifty five Sergei Gonchar or Larry Murphy?
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Thanks, Wow, that's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
If you made me pick one at pick Murph.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Just a little bit better all around, a little bigger,
slightly more physical, not much. Both go to the power play.
Gons better than the power play. Murph's in the Hall
of fame gunch should be. That is a really tough question.
If you make me pick one, I'll go with Murph,
but I have mad love and respect for Gaunch as well.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Let's go to a talkback.
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Whemy, I'm Mark Man and getting ready to go to
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One O five ninety x on our website, deposit that's
Pretty good start, and now they're in Sweden for a
couple of games. Joining me now to talk Penguins. He
played for the team. He's the original Pittsburgh Penguin, the
guy born and raised in Upper Saint Clair. You now
see him on sports at Pittsburgh. He is Bugsy Ryan
Malone bugs. We gonna talk shootout because the Penguins aren't very.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good at it.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
When you played, what was your team's shootout routine? How'd
a different from team to team? What did you guys
do to prepare?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Usually? Well, first, thanks for having me and happy Veterans
date all of our heroes out there. Of course it's
being off the dating awesome. Yeah, thanks for our freedom
with shootout for us. I think usually kind of had
your go to guys and then usually maybe a third
guy would be maybe who you know. We in practice,
you practice the shootout and the guy maybe won a
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few times and just has whatever special movement in his
bag of tricks that usually works. So I think the
biggest thing is you need to stop right the goal.
Yeah you got they let you have Shiloh that has
been playing great, but in the shootouts, for whatever reason,
he has been you know, getting beat I don't know
what his percentages, but I know it's probably below average.
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But you know, they're battling and hopefully they continue to
get themselves in those situations and just finish them over
time instead.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, it has been below average for Shiittoffs in the
shootout bugs he's a lot seven goals on eight attempts,
and you're right, I think he's played real good, you know,
up till that point, up till the shootout starts. But
given his struggles, would you sub him out for the shootout?
Would you put in Jari or morrish Off or whoever
the other goal he is when the shootout starts.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Geez, it's so hard because those guys are so cold
coming off the bed, sitting there unless you know, for
whatever reason, they feel like even in practice, he's not
able to, you know, stop the consistent breakaways. You know,
we might see that otherwise.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I think he's got to.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Roll with the guy in there and hopefully, you know,
he stops the next one.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
What were your impressions at Morrishoff, the Russian goalie who
made his NHL debut on Sunday at home in the
lost to LA.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I thought he looked great, honestly, I thought he was
just very kind of controlled and you know, really quick
and powerful with his kind of movements and cutting down
the angles. And I really kind of liked just his attitude.
Or someone I think asked him a question if he's
like thrown in the fire, how he react, and he
was just kind of like, I prepare to be thrown
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in the fire. That's my job to be in the fire.
So I think looking at Vassilevski, I'm down here in
Tampa seeing how he trains repairs and how many hours
he really puts in at the rink at his craft. Again,
those guys are well prepared before they step into that
game night, and so that they did all they can do.
And I think there he had a great mindset, and
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then even some of the goals he did lit up.
He always saw him take a few, you know, big
deep breasts and get some water and kind of reset after.
But I really liked his attitude and his movement. So
I think we definitely got a good one there.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Did the pengwins deserve better than one point? Out of
the weekends games against Jersey in LA? I thought they
definitely all played Jersey at Jersey and they're a pretty
good team off to a great start.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yes, I think definitely they probably could have had a
few more points. But I think that's where we really
notice just how hard it is to win in the NHL.
And if you have, you know, five ten minute laps.
The other team has so many skilled guys, you know,
it doesn't matter if you know everybody's name or the
All Stars and not. Everyone is so skilled. If they're
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getting these great opportunities, usually you know it might go in.
But I think you know they're playing the right way.
They're not giving up a thousand grade opportunities. I love
their their special teams. Everyone's doing it. Takes on the
penalty kill working together, and it's been a lot of
fun watching the power play snapping around and move the
puck and support each other. So it's been I think
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a great buy in from everyone. I think none of
us really should be surprised with the leadership in that room,
and you know, with the coaching staff as well, getting
everyone prepared on the same page. So kudos to everyone
so far at the early part of the season.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Eric Carson's playing really well, isn't he. I wasn't impressed
his first two seasons in Pittsburgh. But these couple months,
I think he's been terrific.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yes, I agree, I think he They put him kind
of as the obviously go to guy in the first
power play. They're given him the reins there, and I
think sometimes I think, as these elite players, making that
simple pass is like boring to them. So you know,
maybe the coaching staffage like, hey, just make that first pass,
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make that easy, high percentage play, and you know good
things are going to happen. And I think consistently, through
him and all the defenseman there, they are just trying
to make that simple play and not try to do
too much, you know, back there and force it as much.
I think everyone's just been you know, a simple, simple
game and good puck support working together.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I haven't talked to you since Ben Kendall kind it
came on strong as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What's your take on him?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I think I think he's obviously very smart player,
and he's been putting themselves in these situations to uh,
you know, find some school. But just watching him play
and you know, the coach even in those early, you know,
first five games, he was still out there last you know,
three minutes of the game, and I think that was
just those kind of like little tests to see how
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he would respond. And I was really impressed more with
his patience with the puck. Usually, like I'm thinking back
when I was even twenty some years old, it's like
off the glass and out, get rid of it real fast.
But he's really seemed composed and you know, making the
right decision and then you know, as unfortunately the injury
bug has kind of hit us a little bit, these
other opportunities have happened, and he stepped up and and showed,
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you know, he can think and play with the big
boys as well. So it's a great, uh, great future
for him.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
What would you do with Brunette?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He's been scratched a few games, he struggled a few
before that. If he plays one more, his work he
contract kicks in. I think they're thinking about keeping him
because if they were gonna send it back, I think
they would have buy now.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
But what's your call?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, I mean personally, I guess if I was put
on a GM hat, I would probably send them back.
I think the game with Pickering, they played twice, it showed,
you know, to myself, both are young, good defenseman and
they didn't. I think without having Dunba or Clifton or
you know, a veteran presence out there with him, it
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kind of showed maybe some weaknesses that maybe just a
little stronger, you know, battling in front a little maybe
quicker decisions only because we I think right now, if
they're keeping all the defensemen they have Clifton, Dumba and
now Graves up, you know they have enough guys I
think back there that can play and play that five
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to six role where if he goes back to junior,
you know he can be the stud playing twenty five
thirty minutes a night and then he really has a
good of what it takes. And then coming into camp
next year, you know, whole summer training. You know, it's
a whole different animal and player would be looking at.
So my take would be, uh to send them back.
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But I love his upside and what he brings. I
just think with the players that have now obviously not
knowing if they're playing on moving, these older guys are
not UH for to make space for him. But I would
say with the decore they have now, I would send
them back to junior, let them rip it up, build
some confidence and bring them back to.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Camp next year.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
What's your take on the coaching change over.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
What do you see Mews doing differently than Sellivan did,
because obviously Selly had a great run here, But sometimes
fresh is better and different is better.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And I think we're seeing the fruits to that, don't you.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
One hundred percent? I think you hear a lot of
time is just kind of you know, puck support and
putting pucks in places where we're going to get it back.
We're not just ringing around the boards for no reason
and giving them to their goalie, even on the and
I think it's more of thinking defense or getting on
the defense the side of the pucks, even in the ozone,
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getting up kind of in between you and your player,
and just not giving up these odd man rushes and
so many turnovers in the neutral zone when you're making
the team go two hundred feet down the ice to
earn their goal, the chances of you, you know, breaking
it up by the time because you're in are pretty
good compared to some East West plays in turnovers where
they shorten the ice and take advantage of the games.
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We kind of lost. Guys were just getting a little
sloppy with the puck or not supporting each other well,
so I think he really is keeping it simple for
the guys again, keep everyone on the same page, so
everyone's kind of on their toes and know what's happening.
And I think offensively, he's letting guys be creative. And
it's actually been great to watch the puck support. You know,
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four or five sixsses are getting snapped around the ozone
sometimes before a shot, and they're really maintaining that ozone control.
So I think it's some news. And then all the
assistant coaches have their little part right to play and
help the team, and you know, keeping I heard the
practices and lots of energy and gu some competition and
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they're keeping it light and fun and enjoying it. And
I think all around is just a great mix. And
everyone understand how hard is to win. But you know,
again we have the leadership as we.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Do and.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
The coaching now just kind of I guess, reassuring the
players that you know, if we play this way, we
can't have success. And again, these little things have added
up so far at the end of the season for
a great start for the Black and Gold.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Bugsy, you mentioned Veterans Day, which is today. Thanks to
all the veterans out there for everything they've done and
in that vein. What do we got going on with
the Malone Family Foundation. What's up next? You've had some
great events.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, thanks. We were very fortunate again to just honor
our heroes in the community with the game of hockey
and actually were Our next event is down here in
Tampa November twenty six at Benchmark Arena. We'll have close
to eighty veterans and first responders. We have all four
Warriors teams from the state of Florida participating along with
the fire and police teams here of Tampa, and we
(10:09):
just got some alumni involved and we kind of do
our thing there with our Warrior Hockey Academy that you know,
we're really trying to run this program not only in Tampa,
but other NHL cities as well. So we're very fortunate
for the Lightning to open up their doors and really
help us with the ice time and sponsorships to get
on board and celebrate our heroes. And we're happy to
(10:31):
announce the NHL actually has stepped in as well to
be the presenting sponsor at our academy, So we're very
excited to have the NHL on board now supporting our
mission and celebrating our heroes in the community.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well that is great news.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And let's look even further ahead, Bugsy, because in twenty
twenty six, welcially, we got the celebrity game like last year.
This year made thirteenth at RMU and the gala May
fifteenth at River's Casino, which I attended last year, and boy,
what a night that was.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, and that's we're all the support and lovely got
from that, Gal, we'd be able to roll into these
different academies in Pittsburgh, Minnesota and Tampa now, so we're
gonna bring that back and again I think even during
the day. We're gonna have a veterans kind of tournament
on that Wednesday, and we'll end the evening kind of
with a celebrity game there. So then Friday will be
at Rivers Casino again. We can't thank them enough for
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their hospitality for hosting us again this year. So we're
very excited again to be back in Pittsburgh and breaking
the mold with the block and gold Bugsy.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Great stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
We'll see as soon, I hope my best of the
boys and the big Bugsy of course, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yes, sir, all right, I'll talk to you Elier.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's why I'm alone. Check him out on sports Net Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
And of course the work he does with the Malone
Family Foundation in their Warriors Hockey Academy is just unparalleled.
We got Mike to favor at the bottom of the hour.
Get your calls in now. I love that SoundBite from
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kind of feel that way. I also want your thoughts
on Tomlin's saying that the Steelers have to convert more
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the only way to get the best way to get
Jalen War more touches is to just give him more touches.
And he's keeping Ramsey and uh Dugger as the starting safeties,
which I totally agree with. So we do got a
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Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay, So this is a great story I just heard
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news with the Steelers. They have signed a Sante Samuel Junior,
the cornerback, to the practice squad. He had a spinal
fusion procedure that ended his season last year. Spinal fusion. Well,
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these go to eleven. I hope listen, this guy's not
gonna help it all. Nobody can sign as a free
agent after you've already played nine games. Is gonna help
it all? Then again, he might help more than one
Thornhill who they caught. There's a train of thought that
Marquez Valdez Scantling, the receiver, the thirty one year old,
(13:52):
the old timey crony of Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay
that he's gonna get a helmet against Cincinnati Sundy at ACRESSHRU,
and I think we can agree that that would solve
all the Steelers' problems. Speaking of Rogers, I spoke at
the Talk of the show. Have I overestimated overrated how
(14:12):
well Rodgers has played so far this year? He ranks
third interception percentage that means too many, not hardly any.
He ranks twenty second and completed air yards not a
lot of touchdowns, but his passer rating completion percentage, those
are man. He's not had a three hundred yard game
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passing yet this year. He was beyond awful at LA
and looked extremely rattled. So, like I said earlier on
the year, I'd maybe give him a C plus, which
would still make him the Steelers team MVP. And I've
heard further I hate to talk about this, but I'm
(14:54):
gonna I.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Don't know him.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I've heard further that Rogers is bothered by that storing
the New Yor post that suggests his wife is a
phantom and might not exist, and quote Steelers wives and
girlfriends anonymously of course, who say they haven't seen her
or met her, and I'm told that bothers Rogers not
because of the story that his wife's fake, but because
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the wives and girlfriends of his teammate appear to have
cooperated with the story, however anonymously.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Also, the new.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Narrative is that Tomlin could be the coach of the
New York Giants at some point in the not through
distant future, because they just fired their coach. Rich Eisen
on the NFL Networks that it would be a great fit.
Mike Greenberg on the ESPN said it would be a
great fit. And now that has evolved locally too. The
Steelers should trade Tomlin to the New York Giants for
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their first round pick.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Ay, that's going to be a pretty good pick. Why
would they do that?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Why would they bring in a defensive coach whose offense
operates in the Paleozoic era. Why would they bring him
in to inflict that on their promising young quarterback Jackson
Darts three? Why would anybody think Tomlin would do well there?
Tomlin inherited the dog's bollocks for the situation here in Pittsburgh.
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Inherited a team two years off winning a Super Bowl
that already had great players, leaders and a culture in place.
He's going to go some place like New York and
he would just fail miserably like he has for most
of the final half of his resume here in Pittsburgh.
And fourth, and most importantly, the Steelers just aren't going
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to do that. They're just not going to trade Mike
Tomlin or fire make Tomlin, or make Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Leave by any method. He will coach as long as
he wants to.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
How could you possibly be stupid enough as to conclude
otherwise or imagine that he might be traded. But it's
a long four hours for me and for anybody else
who does this. I would just never babble about stuff
I know isn't going to happen, and that isn't going
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
Skins gets to cy Young tomorrow. Kind of anticlimactic when
you know, but we know. Joining me now to talk Steelers.
He covers the team for the athletic key is Mike
de Febo. Mike, the Steelers picked up as sante Samuel Junior,
the cornerback who just had spinal fusion about a year ago.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
How ready will he be to come in and contribute?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And boy, if you're lying a guy like that after
you've already played nine games, that says a lot about
your roster at defensive back.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yeah. I think that that's the biggest thing is there's
an opportunity there. They believe that they had turned the
cornerback position into a strength. Now they have to move
Jalen Ramsey to safety full time. At times, he's looked
like he's thirty one years old. Darius Slay looks like
he's thirty four years old, and not to mention that
move to safety by Jalen Ramsey has diminished or depleted
(19:56):
their cornerback room to some degree. So you know, he's
on the practice odd to start. I don't expect he'll
stay there very long, just because he had other options
and he wanted to come to Pittsburgh recognizing that there
was an opportunity here. He primarily is an outside corner,
but he also has played in the slot, and I
think the Steelers could use bodies in both of those positions.
(20:19):
So I would expect to see him. You know, I
don't know if we'll be up to speed for this week,
but sooner than later, I think he's going to be
a meaningful contributor to that defense.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I hear that Valdez Scantling is likely to get a
helmet for Sunday against Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
What do you hear? What kind of role might he
step into?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Yeah, his participation is picked up with each practice, and
you know that Aaron Rodgers behind the scenes is surely
doing some lobbying. He likes Valdez Scantling. You know, at
one point in his career he had four to three
speed and could stress a defense vertically. You know now,
I don't know that he still has that top end speed,
and I also don't know that the Steelers offense is
(20:57):
that kind of offense. But he's a pretty willing blocker.
I would expect him to take some snaps from Ben Scoronick,
who kind of has that role currently a little bit.
And just because the fact that Rogers trusts MBS, I
think he's going to get opportunities because how could you
gain trust when you throw the ball to Calvin Austin,
hits him in the hands and turns into an interception.
(21:19):
You know, how can you trust Roman Wilson when it's
been this long. So I think for all those reasons,
you know, I would expect him to start playing sooner
than later, and I would expect Rogers to be targeted
him sooner than later.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Today, at his press briefing, Mike Tomlins said that Jalen
Warren can't play more because the Steelers don't convert third downs.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Okay, so play him on third down.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It seems to me the simplest way to get warn
more touches, Mike is to just give him more touches.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Yeah, I would agree. I think that he's earned the
opportunity to be a real lead back, and also he's
just so good in past protection situations. I mean, I
remember sitting there watching the game live and they had
Caleb Johnson in when they were down by the goal line,
and I'm thinking, man, this is going to go really
poorly because he's just not good in pass protection. And
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you know, they gave it to him a couple of
times and then a few plays later, ultimately he took
the sack for the safety. But I just think that
Jalen he earned his It's interesting because most backs like
Caleb Johnson, you say, are they going to be hold up?
Be able to hold up in pass protection? But that's
how Jalen Warren earned his opportunity into this league. And
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just because he now has ascended to the top of
the depth chart, I think you don't want to take
away something that he was so good at, and that
was being a throwd down back in order to, you know,
help you in other areas. So I think it definitely
makes sense to play Jalen Moore more and more, to
give him the ball more, and to feature him in
all his many talents.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That Los Angeles seemed damaging. Mike like it left the Mark,
Am I reading too much into that?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
No, I think you're right, Mark, and it was significant
because you know, I'm not overseeing it when I say
there's a non zero chance that they could have missed
their chance to make the playoffs because of that loss,
Because you know, when you look at it right now,
there's a real possibility that three teams from the AFC
West could make the playoffs, and there's a real possibility
that comes down to a tiebreaker between the Chargers and
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the Steelers for which of those teams makes the wild cards.
And there's a real chance that head to head could
be that tiebreaker that keeps the Steelers out. So you know,
we have some nerd that has some model with computers
and analytics and stuff, and he claims that the Steelers'
chances of making the playoffs went from like fifty eight
percent before that game to now like thirty two percent
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after that game. So I think that that accurately reflects
how damaging that loss was. Not to mention, I think
that some of the warning signs about Aaron Rodgers play
or some of the concerns that we had, even though
I want to be clear, he's played at a much
higher level than I anticipated. Some of the concerns about
can't he throw the ball down field?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Still?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
You know, what's it going to happen when he is
he going to be willing to take the hits necessary
to make those types of plays. You know, a lot
of the concerns that I had before the year, I
didn't really see them through the first couple of games.
A lot of those concerns reared their ugly head in
this one. And so you have to ask, is this
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just a blip on the radar and a hiccup, or
is this an early warning sign of things to come?
Because in Pittsburgh we have seen this story before. We
have seen an old and aging quarterback look pretty good
through the first half or three quarters of the season,
only to see the whole thing collapse upon itself as
the season continues. And you know, in part of my brain,
(24:44):
I'm sitting here thinking, is this going to be like
the eleven zero start with Ben Roethlisberger that fell apart
down the end? Is this going to be like last
year when we were talking about the Steelers maybe using
the transition to tag to retain Russell Wilson, only to
see his career basically go up in flames over the end.
You know, how is Aaron Rodgers going to respond after
his first poor performance as a Steeler?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
No, I think that's worth asking.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And one thing that people overlook, not just with Rogers,
but with the older players on the roster. Mic older
players don't rally and get better in the second half
of the season. They just get older and more tired.
But Rogers specifically, he was so bad at LA it
made me wonder if I've overrated how he's played to
this point. It made me kind of do the report
cards thing, and I grated him a C plus on
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the year, and beyond the bad stats. On Sunday, I
thought he looked sloppy and rattled. I thought he looked
bad in ways that could easily be seen to likely
carry forward.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Yeah, I think one of the biggest things that stuck
out to me is it didn't look like he wanted
to be hit. You know, a lot of those throws
that were inaccurate. I felt like if he stepped up
in the pocket threw off of two feet, it might
have been a more accurate pass. But when you're worried
about getting hit and you're throwing off of your back foot,
you're going to have ball sale on you, You're gonna
have inaccuracy issues, and so yeah, I think that, you know,
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for the more large part of the season, I think
he's done basically anything you could have asked out of
a forty one year old quarterback. But he looked like
a forty one year old quarterback that didn't really want
to be hit and didn't feel confident in anyone not
named DK Metcalf to throw the football too.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
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did the offensive line take a step backwards at LA
because Rogers was under siege and the Chargers never blitzed once?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
They say, I think the guy.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Who took the biggest step back was Broderick Jones. You know,
he allowed three sacks in the first game against the Jets.
He had allowed three sacks since then, but he really
had a rough game overall. And I'm you know, as
I watched back through it, they talked so much about
their failures on third down. On both of their first
two third downs, Broderick Jones got beat early and inside,
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and that's where you can't get beaten. If you get
beat wide and you give your quarterback a chance to
step up in the pocket or you know you you
fight through it, you're giving your quarterback a chance. But
Rogers had no chance when when Broderick was beaten early
and inside, and fellow Tanu has continued to develop with
each game that he gets, I'm gaining more and more
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confidence in him, and I think he's going to be
a solid right tackle. You know, before too long, he's
he's been solid or better than that through most of
the season. He had a rare, uncharacteristically up and down performance.
You know, specifically, he was responsible to some degree for
that that safety. So those are really the two guys
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that had the toughest outings in that game. And Broderick
in particular was the one that really you know, he
had a poor game overall. For sure.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Why are the tight ends not bigger factors? After all
that talk before the season about what a diverse room
it was that they had a lot of guys who
can do a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
They are all minor factors.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I agree with you, Mark, I mean right now, they
have two of the ten highest paid tight ends in
Pat fryar Muth and Johnny Smith, And right now they're
receiving stats in terms of like receptions, receiving yards, they're
between twenty and thirty in the league, and they're just
you can't justify paying two top ten tight ends if
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you're not getting them in the football And part of
it is Pat Frarmuth and john who have somewhat overlapping
skill sets. So Pat Frymuth snaps are down because our
this Smith is going to favor his guy, Johnny Smith,
and that just begs the question are they redundant? Do
you really need two guys who have such similar skill
sets that you're paying too much if you're not going
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to build an offense that highlights them in the passing game?
And right now, I just I just feel like what
they're trying to do is trick people by putting this
big personnel on the field and get a tight end
against the linebacker, whereas the rest of the league says,
we'll just put a wide receiver out there who can
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beat a nickel corner. And so they've taken this approach
and at this point, you know, it's producing the results
that you see on the field.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Is DK Metcalf a bust so far what's happened there,
His impact has been absolutely minimal.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
You know, I don't think he's a total bust. I
think he's still a pretty good player. But I think
there's one thing that works, and that's throwing quick slants
to DK and letting him create after the catch. And
the problem is Rogers isn't attacking downfield. The offensive line
isn't protecting well enough to do it, he's not buying
enough time to do it, he's not willing to take
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the hits, and he's not accurate enough to attack downfield.
And that's one half of what DK Metcalf does well.
Is he was, at one poin in his career one
of the better or one of the best go ball
receivers in the NFL. But when you take one half
of that away, and then the other part is he
does have a history of drops and those drops have
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been a problem, and his hands have been inconsistent, and
so you know they're asking a lot out of him.
There's also in the most recent game, it also seemed
like the Chargers really had a good plan. Their plan
was in a lot of instances they were either doubling
him in man coverage or in zone coverage they had
a safety over top of him. And so when when
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you're getting that much dedicated to him to take him
out of the game, you're counting upon some of these
other guys to step up. And that's where the lack
of depth at that position is really showing up and
really becoming a problem. So I agree with you that
DK hasn't been as impactful as you would have hoped.
And I also think that the lack of talent around
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him is also hurting his chances.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
That the defense play well at LA because it's being
made out that the offense let down the defense, and
the offense was terrible. I'm not sure how great the
defense really was with no takeaways.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Yeah, they were fine. They weren't the reason why the
Steelers lost, but they also weren't the reason why the
Steelers won. And it seems like they're just so turnover
dependent and this is such a jeckal and high defense
where they can play the number one offense in the
NFL and produce five turnovers and look really good, but
they can also give up thirty plus points to you know,
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a sixty five year old Joe Flacco who's dinner by himself,
and it seems like it's one or the other. It's
either five turnovers or thirty points and you're getting nothing
really in between. So you know, in the most recent game,
I felt like that the defense for the first half
kept them in it. And you know, it was five
to three when Rogers threw the interception. It gave the
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Chargers of the ball at the thirty eight yard line.
Fifteen of those yards in the scoring draft team when
Brandon Eckles was burned. So the problem with defense is
it's a weak link unit. And right now they've identified
the link in that game was Brandon Eckles, and they
targeted him and they exposed him. So you could spend
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as much money as you want on defense, but if
there's one guy who's susceptible on your defense, they're going
to target that guy and they're going to expose him.
And I think that that's what's happening time and time
against his defense.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Why is Flaco such a problem for the Steelers with
this game at home against since he coming up in
him at quarterback, he's their boge quarterback.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Yeah, well, in the last game, he had the quickest
time to throw of any quarterback to Steelers' face, and
really a lot of it was just getting the ball
out of his hands and getting it to Jamar Chase,
who set a franchise record with sixteen receptions. So when
you're an old guy who can't move very well, the
one thing you have his experience, and in this case
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of Joe Flacco, a lot of experience with the Pittsburgh
Steelers defense that hasn't changed much since Joe Flacco won
a Super Bowl in Baltimore. He's been facing Mike Tomlin's defense,
which hasn't changed a lot for years. He knows the
soft spots in the zones, he knows what coverages to
anticipate and to expect, and he's just taking full advantage
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and just picking them apart. And so in this game,
you know, I think it very much could be another
shootout where you're you're asking Aaron Rodgers to put up
thirty five points, and even that might not get the
job done. Because as talented as Key Higgins and Jamar
Chase are, even a guy like Joe Flacco in his
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advanced age is experienced enough and still has enough left
to get those guys the football. And because those guys
are so dynamic, you know, it makes it absolute nightmare
for teams, especially like the Steelers, to slow them down.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, and in that vein, Mike, this game is a trap,
I mean in every sense of the word. Since he's
kind of still in the race. Burrow thinks they are
and he's practicing, and that Bengals defense sucks. But the
Steelers offense could stop itself. It wouldn't shock me if
the Bengals scored thirty points and the Steelers scored ten
and their failure on offense had nothing to do with
the Bengals defense.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Yeah. In recent years, this Bengals defense has been the
cure all for whatever has ailed the Steelers offense. But
in this one, you know, how do you restart things
after such a dismal performance? And it is that performance
versus the Chargers going to carry over. And so I
think that I agree with you, Mark, I think that
this could be a disappointing day for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Finally, is Tomlin doing a good job, bad job or
in different job, Mike? And will he be traded to
the New York Giants like everybody wants now in national media.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
I think Tom's doing the same job that he has
for the last decade, which is just enough to get
the team ten and seven and preserve the non losing
season streak, but maybe not much more. I mean I
think that considering he has his fingerprints all over this defense,
and largely if you look at the entire sample size,
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the defense has been what's let them down more often
than not, I think he has to shoulder a considerable
amount of the blame. That said, the Pittsburgh Steelers do
things their way, and I just feel like, even though
it might make a tremendous amount of sense for the
Giants to trade for Tomlin, and a lot of fans
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in Pittsburgh would probably love the idea of moving on
and having a fresh start, I feel like the Steelers
aren't going to want to conduct a search to find
their next coach for the next twenty five years, and
I think they're gonna view it just like that that
they have to find a guy for the next twenty years,
and for that reason, I think they'll take the risk
adverse and the conservative approach and keep Tomlin and keep
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doing the same on things.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Same as it ever was Mike, great stuff. Thank you
for taking the time.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Absolutely, Mark, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 2 (37:00):
Bud Like easy to Drink, Easy Doing June.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Now it's time to ask Mark Anything. Brought to us
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I just read it's Veterans Day. Thanks to all the
veterans out there. Fifty guys who played for the Steelers
served in World War Two. Wow, over fifty over fifty
(37:30):
Steelers served in World War Two, including Aaron Rodgers and
Darius Slay.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Uh. Let's go to Greg, Greg.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
What up? What up?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Mark? Talk?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
I was wondering what's uh?
Speaker 9 (37:42):
Hey, I was wondering what your opinion was on the
penalty called on the Kudos in the last game of
your Mark Medden tournament on Sunday, The rocking call in overtime.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, obvious call. Obvious check. Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, a penalty in overtime is the same as call
it a penalty any other time.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Let's go to Dick in Churchill, Dick, what's up?
Speaker 10 (38:04):
So you know, I'm sure we all remember a few
games ago when I think it was Warren didn't get
the memo with the fleef liquor or whatever, and he
gave it back to Rogers, and Rogers like threw it
on the turf.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
In disgust, it seemed.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
And that brings me to Sunday night where that fourth
and sixth to DK metcalf It seemed like it had
absolutely no chance, and I just wonder if Rogers it
was almost his way of saying, you know what, this
is all you're gonna give me.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
No, that's not his way of subtly suggesting he's unhappy.
He's trying to throw a touchdown to get the Steelers
back in the game. However, if you injected Rogers with
sodium pentathal truth serum, I would love to ask him
if playing for the Steelers is anything like he thought
it would be, because I doubted it is. I adopted
it's lift up to the expectations he had before he
(38:57):
signed with the Steelers. Let's go to Dave.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Ask Mark anything, Hey, Mark, check it out.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Do you hear about that Antonio bron thing where he
grabbed the security guards guards Guy's gune, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I think that's the case. He got extradited for correct
brought back to America.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
I believe so, I believe it is.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I mean, does anything goofy that ab does really surprise
you at this point.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
No, he's a piece of work.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I said back when he played for the Steelers, said
wind up in jail. That may yet happen. Let's go
to Dave Dave ass Mark anything him.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Mark Hey, next week in Greensburg is Queen's Reich and
accept and I just want to getr opinion on those
bands or if that's to show you at its.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Tenth, no interest whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I like a couple accept songs like Fast as a
Shark and of course Balls to the Wall. But no,
I'm especially not a big fan of Queen's Reich. I've
met Todd Dlatori, their new singer, a bunch of times.
He's an okay, I hated what was the Jeff Tate
I interviewed him on a dink.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I don't much like their song, so I'm not gonna go.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Let's go to a talkback, Mark, what will it take
for coach t to regain your trust?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
It can't happen. He's been too bad for too long.
I think he's a phony. I think he's a horseman
or artist. I don't like him, and I wouldn't let
trust him to wash my car let alone coach my
football team.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
He is the single most.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Overrated coach in sports history, not just football sports history.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Let's go to David David Eskmark anything.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Hey.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
I was wondering if Edmonton misses the playoffs, which doesn't
seem all that unlikely right now. Do you think McDavid
would force his way out of there, Well.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
He signed a two year contract, you know, to give
them a chance to defecate or get off the pot.
But you know he's been in the last two Stanley
Cup finals. He slumped at the end of both of
those series. I think he has to take X amount
of blame. But I don't think this year would hasten
his exit. But I think I don't know. I think
(41:13):
if they don't win a Cup by the end of
next season, I think at that point they have to
trade him unless he signs another extension.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
Yeah, yeah, I know you talked about how they need
a goalie, but they're just no one.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
To get nobody to get correct. Let's go to a.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Talkback super genius Eric and Toledo. Who was the better
number fifty five Sergei Gonchar or Larry Murphy?
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Thanks, Wow, that's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
If you made me pick one at pick Murph.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Just a little bit better all around, a little bigger,
slightly more physical, not much. Both go to the power play.
Gons better than the power play. Murph's in the Hall
of fame gunch should be. That is a really tough question.
If you make me pick one, I'll go with Murph,
but I have mad love and respect for Gaunch as well.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Let's go to a talkback.
Speaker 11 (42:11):
Super genius Bob from Brookline. I can say nothing with
zero words. Why does it take Mike Tomlin ten thousand words?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Whemy, I'm Mark Man and getting ready to go to
McCartney in an hour or so.
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