November 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Mark and Tommy Radio talk about who should start Sunday at Quarterback, some Pirates BS being put out there by the national media, and more
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Mark Madden Show. All killer, no filler,
all stuff, and no bluff. Follow me on Twitter at
Mark Madden X. Let's talk to Tommy Radio. Tom Rogers
will not practice tomorrow. He's got a broken bone in
his left wrist. Should he play at Chicago? And who
should make that call?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I think it comes down to if you think Rudolph
can beat the Bears, and you just said that you
do believe Rudolph can beat the Bears. I too believe
Rudolf can beat the Bears.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I believe Rudolph one hundred percent has a better chance
to beat the Bears than Rudolph with a broken risk,
freshly broken risk Rogers with a freshly broken wrist.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Right, yeah, I completely agree, So I would start Rudolph
as far as who makes this decision obviously should be
the head coach, right, But are you implying that the
quarterback QB one might have something more to say about this?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I mean, what about the doctors making the decision? What
about them saying Okay, he should play or shouldn't play,
and then the coaching quarterback.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Can decide.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But like like Kendroll Well, who was the Steelers who
was the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year way back
when he did a weekly radio show with me, and
as he said, because they always rushed him back to
play when he was still hurt and his career suffered
because of it, he should always remember when they say
team doctor, team comes from four doctor.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, so I bet the team doctors are gonna say
it's gonna hurt a lot. He probably won't hurt it
that much worse, though, So it's just amount of.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Tough point all that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It would seem that having that ball jammed into your
wrist under center, and I.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Don't think the snaps under center. Shotgun snaps would be
tricky too, But I don't think you can do under
center very much if you're really so every snap's going
to be out of the shotgun. I would guess it
just makes no sense to start Rogers. If we're getting
into this scenario, you should start Rudolph. He can beat
the Bears, and then Mark, is it greedy of me
to think if he beats the Bears, start Rudolph against
the Bills at home. Give Rogers another week off, and
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he's completely fresh and healthy for that Ravens game on
December seventh.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It would depend on the status of his wrist.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But but yeah, I mean there's a lot of scenarios
that I would examine, which they absolutely will not. If
Rogers wants to play and he practices Friday, he's gonna
play on Sunday, for better or for worse. And it's
not like Rudolph played bad against Cincinnati. He did fine.
And I feel like Rogers is struggling, hurt and needs
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a break. But again, the Steelers never think past the
next game, never look a big picture like you and
I were just doing. The slay thing is even crazier.
Sleigh stinks he's washed up. He shouldn't get a helmet,
let alone get the start. Pierre played maybe the best
game of his career on Sunday, and Tom Win's like, well, almost,
Sleigh's ready, He's in there. We'll find something for Pierre
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to do. That was almost condescending you. He'll have a role,
we'll let him, We'll let him dress.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Paint Pierre in this light of a young player ascending,
because he's twenty nine years old going on thirty. But
he is for sure ascending and deserves to play more
Snaps at that outside corner position. But furthermore, the first
thing you said is the most true.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Sleigh sucks now.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
He's washed up and a major liability when he's on
the field, attacked by opposing quarterbacks constantly.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Pierre has been showing you something.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And Mike Tomlin gave you the line in the press
conference to today where he was like, well, when you're
a backup, you get targeted a lot. That's why you
have a lot of passes defense.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Okay, but he's still getting the passes defense.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Tom Went is such an ass. He is just such
an ass. Every word that tumbles out of his mouth,
his horseman ure. If he told me the sun was
in the sky, I'd grab an umbrella on my way
out the door. He is just such a con artist.
Not the con artist, that's the bean Connor who shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Be the GM. I'm just so down on the way
the Steelers are run.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
These are just bad decisions, an exemplary of the Steelers
flawed process. It's man up or next man up or
veteran respect and blah blah blah, empty platitudes and Tom.
On Sunday, Tom Wain said Ramsey needed to be smarter
today tom Wins said it was okay, implied it was
okay to hit Chase.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Which is it?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Do you think Ramsey called Mike Tomlin into his office
and said, hey, listen, coach, I got spit on this
goes Ramsey have an office. No, I was just kidding around.
Wouldn't be surprised though maybe he does.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Oh No, I think for sure. I mean, Tomin was
a bum as a player, didn't play a snap in
the league. I bet after he said Ramsey wasn't smart,
he read the room, namely the dressing room, and realized
the players disagreed, so he backpedaled.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, but I think that the coach should have stood
firm there and said, hey, I get it, you'd react
in the moment, but you got to react smarter there.
We need our starting safety to be out there for
the entire fourth quarter of a game.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The Rogers thing has me insane.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I mean, and I know most coaches would play the
veteran quarterback or let the veter quarterback decide, But it's
not all blood and guts. Football left blood and guts
behind a long time ago. Look at those three roughing
the passer calls. This past Sunday blud and guts. You know,
the trains left the station. It's not coming back. The
question is can he take this, can he be effective?
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Can there be further damage? And logistics?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And I have to wonder if there's a little bit
of a selfish nature to Rogers wanting to maybe rush
himself back to play in this game, go against the
Bears again. He's oh no, I don't know, Mark. He
loves playing the Bears. He dominates the Bears, especially there.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I just think it's every football player's nature to want
to play hurt and they gotta be real deal.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I think if this was a different game, a non
division game, like if this was the Seahawks, I don't know,
maybe Rogers would be a little bit cooler on this
and be like, I need a week.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It just I get Toma should have been fired years ago,
and every so often he reminds us why and in
a big way. And then again at the end of
the season where it doesn't quite add up to what
you expect.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well, when the players just are begging him to play
them more, with Nick Herbig on the defensive side of
the ball, James Pierre, and he just keeps going back
to the big paychecks, the guys who are the more
veteran players. With high Smith and Sleigh. It's just it's
insufferable because that's a gift for a coach to see
a young player like her big ascend above a high
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played player like Highsmith, to see player like Pierre step
up and fill a role that you didn't expect he
could ever fill. Like, these are gifts that's on your.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Laugh And if you're Pierre, You're like, oh f I mean,
could you point? You don't think James Pierre knows that
Darius Slay stinks. Now, you don't think that whole dressing
room knows the Darius Slay snaks not.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Come on, they do.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
They all do, absolutely so, And again I don't know
what else you could do if you're James Pierre. So yeah,
at this point you're probably putting your hands up and say,
what more could I do to become a starter on
this defense? I've been arguably your best corner for the
past two games.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And don't get me wrong, he could play Peter out
and then you know, whoever goes back, and I'd still
find a better option to slay. That's number one at
least let Pierre do that. At least let him prove
he can't or can't sustain.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
But the number one point is Slay stinks. Slay is
a problem, a huge liability. Can't have him out there.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Darius shouldn't play Slay ever again, some some bucco news,
well some planted bucco news.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We'll get to that in a moment here.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
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Speaker 1 (07:18):
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great line. He said, Pitton Virginia Tech should be a
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Speaker 3 (07:59):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Franklin, like I just said, got hired at Virginia Tech yesterday.
With his recruiting, Virginia Tech will be an acc power
and it won't take long. We always say Mike Tomlin
would have a job right away if he was available.
I'm not so sure that's the case anymore. But it
turns out that description did apply to James Franklin. As
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we found out late yesterday's program, Jamar Chase got suspended
a game for spitting on Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey did
not get suspended for punching Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I'm glad Ramsey didn't get suspended, But would you rather
be punched or spit at?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Chase? Is appealing?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
He says, if he meant to spit, did I hit
Ramsey in the face?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yo, dude, you did it. Own it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's about action and not accuracy. One thing good about
Aaron Rodgers maybe being available for Sunday is the will
Howard should play. Talk is quiet at a bit, but
if Rudolph has to play and he throws an incompletion
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one incompletion, it'll ratchet up again, and God forbid Rudolph
would throw a pick, It'll be the Spanish Inquisition. The
Penguins don't play till Friday, but we got Ryan Shape,
one of their defensemen, on the show at four thirty.
What I'm wondering is, do you think they're kind of
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legit or does their record flatter to deceive? They beat
Nashville four nil at Sweden on Sunday, but they have
lost six out of their last nine. But they have
the third most points in the Eastern Conference, and the
Eastern Conference may be the worst any conference in the
NHL has been since the old Western Division from nineteen
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sixty seven through nineteen seventy, which had all a expansion teams,
including the Penguins. First three years of expansion, they put
all the expansion teams in the West Division, all the
original six in the East, and then the three Stanley
Cup finals were all sweeps. Saint Louis made the final
every year and got swept every year. Montreal for ZIP,
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Montreal for ZIP, Boston for ZIP.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
One.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Thing really in the Penguins favor. We have Peerre McGuire
on at three thirty. The Penguins have the number one
power playing in the league right now in the number
four p K in the league. Right now, you keep
that up, you're gonna go places. Let's bring Tommy Radio
back in. Tom Were you surprised Chase got suspended in
not Ramsey? I figured both would get one game.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, I am pretty surprised that that happened, because there's
precedent for both of them. Jalen Carter spitting earlier in
this year, got a game because he got ejected before
that first game, and then.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Well he got suspended after the first snap.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I thought, like, he got ejected before that game, and
then they said, hey, that counts as his game suspension,
which is nonsense, but that's what they said. So there's
the precedent there. And then I think there was a
Commander player. I think a Commander player threw a punch
a couple of weeks ago and got a game suspension.
And then there's more precedent because there's more instances of
players throwing punches throughout the NFL's history than there is
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people spitting on another player. So you've seen it almost
automatically warn a one game suspension.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think it's lucky that Ramsey didn't get tagged.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Is this a mandate against spitting, but approving physical violence
because both are technically assault.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And by the way it seems like I'm done on Ramsey,
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I think he's mostly been very good, and I give
him credit for switching the safety and doing well there
so far.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But getting ejected in a one score game is just done.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You know what else, I'm really surprised that too. And
maybe I'm wrong here and this has come down. I
haven't seen Ramsey get fined even and I think that
would just be automatic, right. I mean, the league loves
handing fines out like candy, and they could hit him
with a pretty big one there, especially if they come
from the angle of like, hey, we didn't even give
you a suspension for this, so we're going to docu
like one hund two hundred thousand dollars for throwing a fist.
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That's the way to send a message, too. I'm surprised
they didn't even do that.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
We talked about the Will Howard mania dying dine a
little bit with with Rogers. Now, looking I would say
he's likely to play just the way it was said.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Don't you think it feels like he's gonna play this game?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And I think it's going to be a mistake. He's
just not gonna be comfortable enough to take a snap
from under center like he needs to.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
He loves operating from under center. It's crucial to this
offense at time.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Don't you think that he'll start and eventually leave the game,
which is the worst case scenario, I think.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, because then you don't have Rudolph prepping the entire
week to beat the Bears. Well, he'll be prepping, you know,
he'll be tomorrow and Thursday, you think.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, Then maybe it won't be that big of a
deal if Rogers does have to leave, and now it
would be because you want Rudolph, if he's going to start, you.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Want him out there in that rhythm as the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I'm telling you, if if Rudolph, do you know, get
a run of games with Rogers hurt, eventually will Howard
will get in the game and might even start. Even
though that's the stupidest thing Tomlin could possibly do. When
it comes to stupid, I can cont on Mike Tomlin.
And don't forget he pulled Rudolph for Duck. That's it
for Duck in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
He pulled him for a quarterback that played at D
three Samford, and this is Will Howard. I mean, people
are over hyping Will Howard, but at least he comes
from Ohio State and has some pedigree attached to his name.
So if he was so willing to bench Rudolph for Duck, yeah,
he could do it for someone like that how old,
My god.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I mean, Duck makes Will Howard look like auto.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Quaint exactly, So yeah, could it could definitely happen. Rudolph
could get hurt too. I mean we talked yesterday that
offensive line regressed. That's probably part of the reason why
Rogers got his ass kicked so much.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Have the Steelers ever had a worse quarterback than Duck, who,
don't forget is now a suitcase pimp?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
No, I don't think they've had a worse quarterback than Duck.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Kenny Pickett statistically kind of gives him a run for
the money.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But I can't say that about my pitman, Kenny Pikett.
I can't say he's worst, and Duck I can't stand either.
And I can't say Pickt's worse than Duck. How bad?
Who's the country start? Did he marry her? Lady Wilson,
and I think they're married. Yep, suitcase Pittman. That's a
hell of a job if you can get it. By
the way, how bad is can he? Pickett?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Gino Smith sucked on Monday Night football? I keep picking
a kick it in the game for the Raiders like Pete.
Carrol won't even throw him out there, apparently if his
life depended on it.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I gotta get this in there, Tom, Jeff, Uh is
it passing or Poissan?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I think it's passing, Jeff passing? He looks funny? Should
he go back? Pissan?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Don't he look funny? Looks like a wax figure. Oh
that's a good call. Yeah, very wax stick out, very waxy.
But he's probably got a lot of makeup on every
time you see him, right, That's probably why he looks waxy.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Uh. Anyway, he said, however, you pronounced Dave that Connor
Griffin will be given every chance to make the opening
day roster at spring training after finishing at double A
last year. That's the Pirates leaking to pass in to
drive off season hype.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So you ignore that they don't increase payroll. That's all
that is.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Sherrington told him that, and you know, Passon's gonna go
with it because it beats having to research the worst
franchise in sports. You know, just take what you're giving
and you wrote something about the Pirates or said something
and beat him bucks. But let's say Griffin does make
the team Tom and let's say he wins Rookie of
the Year.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Do the Pirates make the playoffs? I say no. I'm
gonna say no too. Why would you not bet on?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Our odds are so in our favor. So they get
one bat then, and it's a rookie bat. What's that breakout?
Your look like too? Some guy who has like an
eight hundred Ops. I'm not gonna expect Connor Griffin to
come up here and be Juan Soto on the Nationals
carrying us to a World Series.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I think it would be a mistake to promote him.
It would be very hasty to bring him from Double
A to the Bigs. He'd still be nineteen years old.
And what if he flops? What if heat stinks? I mean,
I'm not saying it would scar him, but it wouldn't
help him do what's best for his development.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Plus, it's not what's best for the Pirates and their
selling of hope to fast track him to the league.
They want to keep that hope down there in the
minors because he is their silver bullet for weathering the schemes.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Like I said, I don't think he's going to make
the big league team, but I think the possibility of
him doing it, as planted by the Pirates with passing,
gets the hype they want out there. It's about it's
about the offseason.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Hype, and they'll dangle it in spring training too, like Connor,
Griffin will play with the big squad for a good
portion of spring training, maybe make it all the way
to the end before they finally send him down to
tripa a mark. Don't you think the national media, though,
is derelict of their duty here by advancing this BS
by the Pirates, the Passes, the Rosenthals earlier in this offseason.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
But you get something out there about the Pirates a
team you really don't want to get anything out there about,
And even if it is just hype and BS, at
least it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Can't you at least attach that to it though, and
be like, I know this is all hype and BS.
This is what I was told by the team, I'm
not buying it until I see the.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Actually, even the best baseball writers, whether you know national
or whatever, or stooges, they stooge for the.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Game, for baseball in particular. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I
see what you're saying there.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Even though I like him, I like passing, I like them.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I've gotta be honest almost every sport. Now, that's the
direction it's headed, is to kind of carry water for you.
Name a national football writer who's really tough on football,
like Doctor Z used to be and Peter King win
the situation called I don't think there is.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
One national writer.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's tough for me because all the people that I
think of, I'm not looking at writers anymore. You know,
my lenses through like talk show hosts calling cowards of
the world, and they are tough on the league and
tough on.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Coward can be. Yeah, and he's in the minority. But
there's still more of those in this.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You look at all the ESPN debate shows, who among
them is tough on the NFL?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
None, none of them. Stephen A. Smith I can kind
of toe that line. He can get there. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, I don't watch I don't know, but yeah, but writer,
nothing's coming to mind right now.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Peter King was gonna be the one I said. He
just retired though.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
We got a SoundBite from Matt Hasselbeck where he compares
Rogers playing with an injured risk to him back when
playing with injured risk. And it's actually insightful because he
talked about the process. But I'm thinking while Matt Hasselbeck
is kind of making it about himself and comparing himself
to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And his best quality is a quarterback was handing it
off to Sean Alexander, right, I don't remember he was
the quarterback who played the Steelers in that Super Bowl
Mark for the Seahawks matts back.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, there was in the other half.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Now ten Tim's of bomb. Tim would never get a
team to a Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
What what a what a super Bowl? Lacking in star
power and memories?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I remember is uh, we had Ben and Bettis on
our side of you hat. Bett's had a bad super
Bowl though, and bended too, and Bettis was kind of
you know, no, I said, I said Ben, or didn't know?
You said Bettis?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, well they both did. Bet just didn't really do anything.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
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thrown to touchdown past to Hines Ward and Parker's round
and Heinese and Parker right hind because I have a
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Speaker 2 (19:04):
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Speaker 1 (19:08):
I keep getting told that I'm gonna vast minority because
anybody who would get spin on would beat the crap
out of whoever did it.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
First of most you couldn't. I know, I couldn't at
this point.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
All what happened to most of you is somebody would
spit on you. You'd smack him and then then beat the
crap out of you. You'd be over too and covered
in spit and blood. But the point isn't the reaction
to being spin on. The point is your reaction to
being spin on when you're in the middle of a
one score game. That's the point. I wouldn't get thrown
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out of a one score game and hurt my team's
chances of winning for the sake of avenging saliva.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
A little bit later, you're up big late, then take.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
His knee out, beats the heck out of a punch
to the gin, which didn't seem to hurt Chase.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
By the way up.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Dallas killed Vegas last night on Monday Night football and
George Picktts formally of this parish, had a monster game
at wide out, nine catches, one hundred and forty four
yards in a touchdown and the touch that was insane.
He made a catch and a couple cuts and boom afterwards.
Jerry Jones, the Dallas owner slash GM slash fanboy slash,
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perhaps he needs to trying to think of a nice
way to say that he could be experiencing dementia symptoms.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I am.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
He compared Pickett's touchdown to ballet, which is pretty good call,
and of course this reignited the discussion locally that the
stealer should have kept Pickens and hey, look at the numbers.
Fifty eight catches, nine hundred and eight yards, fifteen point
seven yards per catch, and seven touchdowns. Pretty impressive. Those
are better numbers than DK and Austin have combined. Add
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up their stats for all four categories catches, yards, yards
per in, touchdowns, and DK and Austin combined trel George Pickens.
But I still think the Steelers did the right thing
trading him because A. Dallas's offense gets him the ball
and makes plays. They're not stuck in prehistory. B. Piketts
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is protected by CDEE lamb a legit number one. Why
not and see you don't win with guys like Pickens Dallas?
Ain't They're four five and one? How many times here Pittsburgh?
Do you stupid yokels, have to see your team not
win with guys like that to understand that you don't
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win with guys like that. I would have let the
ab levey on bell era, which wasted Ben Roethlisberger and
where Tom Win lost the team's culture permanently. I would
have figured you might have learned from that. But the
keyword there was learned, So no, I'm not surprised it didn't.
By the way, ab update, he is facing thirty years
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in prison, is out on bail charged with attempted murder
with a gun. Apparently he grabbed a gun from a
security guard in Miami after attending a celebrity boxing match,
and he fired two shots. Fired two shots that a
guy had been in a fistfight with earlier. I believe
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ab produced the Paul Stanley defense and plead that's no shotgun.
That's my love gun. And by the way, that would
be in keeping with some texts he sent to some women.
I know, I got him in pretty impressive machinery. People
show me everything. There's a girl who got a bunch
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of nude texts from a member of the two thousand
and nine Penguin Stanley Cup champions that she showed me.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I mean, well, she showed me one. I didn't want
to see no more after that.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But and you're gonna say, well, Madden, why won't you
say that as you say if it was a B.
You just said it was a B. Is it because
you like the Penguin? Yes it is, Yes, it is.
Tom Uh. When you were in the dating period with
your wife, did you exchange any sexting?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's none of your basiness.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Mark, come on, oh, come on, you can tell me, Okay,
we're private right now? Yeah, yeah, we did really of course,
are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Pictures too? No, pictures come on now, like like like
your pictures.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Pictures can really expose you, that can really get you
in a lot of trouble. But dirt if you get
what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
If you get caught with pictures on your phone, though, Mark,
you're cooked big time. Well if I mean, that's child
pornography right there? What do you mean if you're a
miners passing around pictures to each other when your wife
when you started to date high school?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
My man, Oh, let's cut this conversation off right now.
I feel like Jeffreys, you're a little weird right now. Yes,
you didn't know that. I didn't. You've only been working
with me for five years. I'm not how old are you?
Thirty one? How long have you been you've been taking
your wife for like fifteen years? That's right.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I'm not sure that they congratulate you or or like
not feel bad.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I mean, you're you're happier than me. You're bad. I'm
having a great time.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
No, No, I mean well, I mean one, I mean, like,
how old were you? How old were you when you
started dating.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Probably around fourteen fifteen years old. Are you serious sophomore
year high school?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah? Are you serious? High school? Did you ever break
up in that time?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
We made it through college long distance. Never cheated. You know,
we're cheated. I don't believe it. As far as I know,
she didn't cheat. I don't believe that. I can see
in your eyes that you're lying.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, okay, I'm lying. Does she listen every day? I
don't know if she listens every day.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Well, she's not right now, so you can tell me.
Never cheated. Where'd you go to college? I went to
du Cane. That's believable. The women, No, that's not well.
Women there aren't attempting, No, they are. They just shut
me down all the time. I mean, why would you
be different?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
What about the Pickings game? I mean he was great,
but like, you just don't win with that guy.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, I think what was so funny too, Mark was
did you notice at the beginning of the game a
little discipline handed down from head coach Schottenheimer for the Cowboys.
Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens had to sit out the
first drive of the game.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
For the Cowboy that showed them the drive well, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
What, it's more than a coach t ever did to
George Pickens? What was his what was his discipline?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Showed up like ten minutes before a game and he
tried to write out here what.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Was his discipline?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
He can't run out of the tunnel and hear the
pop of the crowd like that was his big blow
to him, like you won't get introduced with the offense.
There's a little bit of shame to what Schottenheimer did.
The camera was focused and everybody was saying, what the
hell's going on with Pickens and Lamb, why aren't they playing?
And then Schttenheimer after the game says, they missed some things.
I'm not going to go into any more detail, but
that's what we decided on Monday to do.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
You were fourteen. I feel I feel awful.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
How why because that's a weird thing to feel bad
about it? Like Jeffstein, Oh, you didn't know that part
I'm talking about about. You thought we met probably like
after college or something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
You met like once she became famous from the show.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, right, Well that's the problem is me having to
stiff farm all these chicks.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
After this, after working on this show. Absolutely that's never
been a problem for me.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well that's not true, because, well, like Chris Jericho said that,
when I go into strip joints, I show we're a
baseball captain, says sucker. So I want I have been
stampeded by strippers, been for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I think just a giant kneeon sign that says I'm
your mark, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
No, that was.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, yeah, actually I got ah. The bottle shop used
to be the World Capitol hot waitresses. I saw a
girl who used to work there at the River Hunts game.
She's hanging the national anthem. Her name is Liz. She
was really good at the national anthem. She's still really beautiful.
But she had red hair. Then I thought it was
natural red hair, but now it's black and I'm not
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sure what color her hair is for real?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
You forgot no, No, I mean maybe I don't know
if it was died now or died down. I see
what you're saying. She was a cop to shequit. She
quit being a cop too.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Now she's works for UPMC and I sings national anthems.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I guess a cop a hot cop Yep, that'd be
tough to get pulled over by be a little alarming.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I feel like I stumbled into a movie or an
episode of that seventies show. Remember that's how Kelso was
in Cop because he saw the hot cop.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
He got pulled over by a hot cop and then
he saw out a uniform and said, wait, you're an ugo.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It was the uniform that made you hot. I'm getting old.
I could maintain my good looks by being a cop.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
And that's who was he dating at that point in
the show. He had a kid with her, right, who's
the actress, crazy hot actress.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Shannon Elizabeth from American Pop Y Great late casting to
bring her aboard? Yeah she was. She was on for
two years. I think she was. She was a recurring Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And you know who her mother was when when Kelso
met her mother was Morgan Fairchild.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I didn't know that. It was like a latter day Shannon,
you know, a long time ago? Yes? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Do you know where kel she was the valedictorian of
the class. You know where Kelser knocked her up at?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Oh? I do know?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
This is in a bathroom somewhere right in the bathroom
with the Bali hatchet concert.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I won Schler Valedictorian nod. She might have won oh
five ninety X from the Dollar Energy Fund Weather Center.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
This report, it's sponsored by Joe Ball GMC. It's gotta
be clouding today with showers developing. Look for a high
of forty one steady rain tonight with Patchi Fogg overnight
dropping to thirty six bearable cloudiness.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
There's a few.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
More twists to the tail when it comes to Sdor Sanders.
While he was making his NFL debut Sunday, somebody broke
into his home and stole two hundred K worth of belongings.
And Jason Wentlock, who who is one of those right
wing sports guys. And I'm not sure I liked that
combination anymore than I like left wing sports guys. I
mean sports and sports leave politics out of it. But
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what Luck made a good point about Shador Sanders, who
looked totally unprepared when he came into the game Sunday.
And you saw the stats, four out of sixteen, a
couple of long sacks, a pick, quarterback rating a thirteen
point five. Sanders has never had to compete for job.
He's always had the quarterback job handed to him his
whole career. You know high school, both of his colleges
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got coached by his dad. Why would do you think
he has to work hard and prepare and he clearly
wasn't prepared.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Good point made by Whitlock.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
What do we got today for the trifecta?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
For today's trifecta, Mark, I have a trifecta of college
football takes for you that I want to throw by you.
We're getting into the stretch runner of the college football
season here, only two weeks left. My first take, only
two weeks left. In the two weeks left, it's the best.
But then the playoffs too long now my numbers to
make it. No, they're not gonna make it. They're gonna
lose the Georgia Tech this week and be eliminated for good.
Number three my take college football. It feels to me
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like the Heisman Trophy has never meant less than it
does right now, Like the luster of it has just
completely gone. And at one point I feel like, at
its type, market was the greatest individual trophy and maybe
all of sports to win.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I haven't cared about it since day wrongly took it
away from OJ. Number two.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
It's a little weird to me, right now that Notre
Dame is ranked so much higher than Miami and all
of these polls when they lost to Miami in Week
one of this season. That just tells me that the
committee doesn't care about head to head stuff. It's about
who you lost to.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I saw somewhere a member of the committee said to
somebody off the record, but got out there without his
name attached, that we should not even look at the standings.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
We should just pick the teams.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
There should be no guaranteed burst and I hear they're
thinking about there not being any guaranteed spots based on
conference champions because they just want the brand names. They
don't care about finding the best team in college football.
They just want the brand names to get the ratings,
to get the crowds, to get the money.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And this supports that what you heard someone else may
have heard from a committee member, because there's just no
reason they should be ranked ahead of a team that
beat them. There's just no way you can justify it.
But it's going to happen. Number one, though, I think
that this is a very chaotic college football season, but
it's a chaotic race for second place. I think Ohio
State's just going to run away with this thing. And
because back to back champs and it could be a
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very boring playoff mark as they just beat teams by
two touchdowns plus every time.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'm not going to watch it, you watch a little
bit of it a little bit accidentally.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I usually watched the championship game because a few times
I've happened to be in Vegas when the championship game
was contested.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That'd be cool.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, And like you know, a sports book or a
big sports bar a place like that. It really is
like an occasion. Oh with that question, you know where
Vegas is really fun? The first weekend of NCAA March madness.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I kind of prefer the semi final day before the
natural national championship game in football, you know you know
what I mean? You get the two games back to
back of each other, the weightiest games of the season,
have a good chance if one of the games is
a stinker, I get another shot at one being good.
I don't know, that might be my favorite day. That'd
be a goo day to be in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I prefer whatever day they're not playing college football. What
you know, have you ever thought about how and it
wasn't always this way Tom. I used to watch Pitt
Penn State. I used to watch every sporting event I
could to keep up for this show, and now I
barely watch any sports compared to back then.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Anyway, is it weird that a sports talk.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Coast is so pointed about what he won't watch because
it bores the piss out of him?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
No, I think it's refreshingly honest that you say that.
You're saying, No, I'm very serious about that, and I
love your take.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
You said, I think it's in your contract.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Do you One of the conditions for getting on Mike
was to call me refreshingly honest.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
That doesn't mean I don't mean it. At least twice
a week, I don't mean it even though if it
isn't writing.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
And as far as the contract goes, I mean, why
take a chance?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And something that you set off the air to me
so many times, and you said it on the air too,
is as you've gotten older, you just watch the things
that you like and the sports that you like. Or
Liverpool and the Penguins and in the NHL in general,
in soccer and.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Gen yeah, I watch.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I watch Liverpool and the Penguins first, NHL third behind
those two Premier League at Coast fourth Chimp, well, Premier
League Champions League.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Call that soccer, Yeah, all that soccer.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I don't watch. I don't watch Spain, Germany and Italy
much unless it's like like the classic er with with Lever,
with uh with Dortmund and and Munich. But yeah, I
just like and I never watched college sports at all.
I don't you know what really turned me off college
sports though. I think Nardoozi is a blow hard, and
I think Cape's a blow hard too, And I don't
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think either of him understands where he's at. I think
Nardoozi thinks he's still in the East Lansing. I think
he thinks that the program is more important here than
it is. And Capele's same thing with Dorham. He thinks
this program at the Pitt Basketball is more important. Like
he was the duke assistant, right, Yes, yeah, well I
got it right, dorm see, I remembered. But I just
I'm just I'm not interested in the first place. And
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then when you got guys that I don't like coaching
and you really haven't done.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Much now, it's arrogance without accomplishment, much accomplishment With him,
I know Nardoozi does have the a SEC.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Title in his back pocket, but that's as fluky as
it really. Can you pick it one?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Now?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh yeah, it's like ninth year. So what else?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Don't I like, you'll dip your tone into the water
when it's like a big NFL playoff game, like Alan Mahomes,
you know what I mean, Like you'll watch that.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And if Sunday Night football or a big matchup, I
watched that, Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Not the Steelers, Well you have to watch the Steelers.
You have to watch the Steelers. What else?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I'll watch the NBA if it's a matchup, I like,
if I'm flipping the dial, if I'm flipping the dial.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Not appointment team, no appointment TV. Ever.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
You know, I watch more baseball than people would believe
because I think it's a great game.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I think the Pirates have ruined it here in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Well, what baseball has always had going for him, too,
is in those summer nights. I mean there's just nothing
else on sometimes and like you know what I mean,
like late July, you just almost inevitably have to watch
a baseball game.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I just take the self righteousness know of baseball media
who think that it's still like America's past time when
it's way down the list of pastimes, behind the NFL,
behind third.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Place TV, behind Netflix.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I mean, if you include those into it and not
just sports, Yeah, it's way down the list, cooking shows.
NBA's probably passed it two, don't you think it's probably
closer than I'm giving a credit to.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And MLB maybe have gained some ground, obs.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Enough to remember when the three big sports, and I've
said this often last show, the three big sports were
in order of baseball, boxing, horse racing, and nothing else
mattered in a little bit, including the NFL until the
name of Super Bowl, until Super Bowl three, the AFL
NFL merger, Name It Guaranteed Victory. TV became a big
thing for football. Name it was America's hero name. It
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doesn't get enough credit. Never mind what a great quarterback
he was at Bama and with the Jets, he doesn't
get enough credit for bringing football to the absolute pinnacle
of American of American perception.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I would argue now that there's really only one big
sport in America, and it is football, because you know,
all the other sports just get blown out of the
water completely. You look at the networks like ratings for
the most watched shows every year, including other shows, not
just sports. It's always the NFL baseball.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
In ratings. Did you know there's gonna be pickleball movie?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
No?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Is it gonna be funny?
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Though?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I think I do a slant. Well, that's a good start.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
You know what The premise is A retired tennis champion
comes back to play pickleball to something like save the club,
like the tennis club from being you.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Know, shut down. This sounds good. It sounds like dodgeball
with pickleball. All right.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
If it's rated R we get Ben Stiller a couple
other great characters in there. I know there's a role
for Vince Vaughn in there somewhere. I just know it.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Jim Florentine when he was in town, he has a
pickleball riff in his routine. He burries pickleball and I
no offense to gym. My punchlines were better than his.
Like my punchline that pickleball is table tennis if they're
standing on the table. He's using that when moving forward.
I can tell you that one oh five ninety x
This is the Mark Madden Show. All killer, no filler,
all stuff, and no bluff. Follow me on Twitter at
Mark Madden X. Let's talk to Tommy Radio. Tom Rogers
will not practice tomorrow. He's got a broken bone in
his left wrist. Should he play at Chicago? And who
should make that call?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I think it comes down to if you think Rudolph
can beat the Bears, and you just said that you
do believe Rudolph can beat the Bears. I too believe
Rudolf can beat the Bears.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I believe Rudolph one hundred percent has a better chance
to beat the Bears than Rudolph with a broken risk,
freshly broken risk Rogers with a freshly broken wrist.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Right, yeah, I completely agree, So I would start Rudolph
as far as who makes this decision obviously should be
the head coach, right, But are you implying that the
quarterback QB one might have something more to say about this?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I mean, what about the doctors making the decision? What
about them saying Okay, he should play or shouldn't play,
and then the coaching quarterback.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Can decide.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
But like like Kendroll Well, who was the Steelers who
was the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year way back
when he did a weekly radio show with me, and
as he said, because they always rushed him back to
play when he was still hurt and his career suffered
because of it, he should always remember when they say
team doctor, team comes from four doctor.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, so I bet the team doctors are gonna say
it's gonna hurt a lot. He probably won't hurt it
that much worse, though, So it's just amount of.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Tough point all that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It would seem that having that ball jammed into your
wrist under center, and I.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Don't think the snaps under center. Shotgun snaps would be
tricky too, But I don't think you can do under
center very much if you're really so every snap's going
to be out of the shotgun. I would guess it
just makes no sense to start Rogers. If we're getting
into this scenario, you should start Rudolph. He can beat
the Bears, and then Mark, is it greedy of me
to think if he beats the Bears, start Rudolph against
the Bills at home. Give Rogers another week off, and
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he's completely fresh and healthy for that Ravens game on
December seventh.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It would depend on the status of his wrist.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But but yeah, I mean there's a lot of scenarios
that I would examine, which they absolutely will not. If
Rogers wants to play and he practices Friday, he's gonna
play on Sunday, for better or for worse. And it's
not like Rudolph played bad against Cincinnati. He did fine.
And I feel like Rogers is struggling, hurt and needs
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a break. But again, the Steelers never think past the
next game, never look a big picture like you and
I were just doing. The slay thing is even crazier.
Sleigh stinks he's washed up. He shouldn't get a helmet,
let alone get the start. Pierre played maybe the best
game of his career on Sunday, and Tom Win's like, well, almost,
Sleigh's ready, He's in there. We'll find something for Pierre
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to do. That was almost condescending you. He'll have a role,
we'll let him, We'll let him dress.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Paint Pierre in this light of a young player ascending,
because he's twenty nine years old going on thirty. But
he is for sure ascending and deserves to play more
Snaps at that outside corner position. But furthermore, the first
thing you said is the most true.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Sleigh sucks now.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
He's washed up and a major liability when he's on
the field, attacked by opposing quarterbacks constantly.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Pierre has been showing you something.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And Mike Tomlin gave you the line in the press
conference to today where he was like, well, when you're
a backup, you get targeted a lot. That's why you
have a lot of passes defense.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Okay, but he's still getting the passes defense.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Tom Went is such an ass. He is just such
an ass. Every word that tumbles out of his mouth,
his horseman ure. If he told me the sun was
in the sky, I'd grab an umbrella on my way
out the door. He is just such a con artist.
Not the con artist, that's the bean Connor who shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Be the GM. I'm just so down on the way
the Steelers are run.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
These are just bad decisions, an exemplary of the Steelers
flawed process. It's man up or next man up or
veteran respect and blah blah blah, empty platitudes and Tom.
On Sunday, Tom Wain said Ramsey needed to be smarter
today tom Wins said it was okay, implied it was
okay to hit Chase.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Which is it?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Do you think Ramsey called Mike Tomlin into his office
and said, hey, listen, coach, I got spit on this
goes Ramsey have an office. No, I was just kidding around.
Wouldn't be surprised though maybe he does.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Oh No, I think for sure. I mean, Tomin was
a bum as a player, didn't play a snap in
the league. I bet after he said Ramsey wasn't smart,
he read the room, namely the dressing room, and realized
the players disagreed, so he backpedaled.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, but I think that the coach should have stood
firm there and said, hey, I get it, you'd react
in the moment, but you got to react smarter there.
We need our starting safety to be out there for
the entire fourth quarter of a game.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The Rogers thing has me insane.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I mean, and I know most coaches would play the
veteran quarterback or let the veter quarterback decide, But it's
not all blood and guts. Football left blood and guts
behind a long time ago. Look at those three roughing
the passer calls. This past Sunday blud and guts. You know,
the trains left the station. It's not coming back. The
question is can he take this, can he be effective?
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Can there be further damage? And logistics?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And I have to wonder if there's a little bit
of a selfish nature to Rogers wanting to maybe rush
himself back to play in this game, go against the
Bears again. He's oh no, I don't know, Mark. He
loves playing the Bears. He dominates the Bears, especially there.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I just think it's every football player's nature to want
to play hurt and they gotta be real deal.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I think if this was a different game, a non
division game, like if this was the Seahawks, I don't know,
maybe Rogers would be a little bit cooler on this
and be like, I need a week.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It just I get Toma should have been fired years ago,
and every so often he reminds us why and in
a big way. And then again at the end of
the season where it doesn't quite add up to what
you expect.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well, when the players just are begging him to play
them more, with Nick Herbig on the defensive side of
the ball, James Pierre, and he just keeps going back
to the big paychecks, the guys who are the more
veteran players. With high Smith and Sleigh. It's just it's
insufferable because that's a gift for a coach to see
a young player like her big ascend above a high
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played player like Highsmith, to see player like Pierre step
up and fill a role that you didn't expect he
could ever fill. Like, these are gifts that's on your.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Laugh And if you're Pierre, You're like, oh f I mean,
could you point? You don't think James Pierre knows that
Darius Slay stinks. Now, you don't think that whole dressing
room knows the Darius Slay snaks not.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Come on, they do.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
They all do, absolutely so, And again I don't know
what else you could do if you're James Pierre. So yeah,
at this point you're probably putting your hands up and say,
what more could I do to become a starter on
this defense? I've been arguably your best corner for the
past two games.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And don't get me wrong, he could play Peter out
and then you know, whoever goes back, and I'd still
find a better option to slay. That's number one at
least let Pierre do that. At least let him prove
he can't or can't sustain.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
But the number one point is Slay stinks. Slay is
a problem, a huge liability. Can't have him out there.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Darius shouldn't play Slay ever again, some some bucco news,
well some planted bucco news.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We'll get to that in a moment here.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
On one O five to nine, it's the Woody Show,
Mark madhuon pregame show on d.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
X, doublem on the X.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The pregame show brought to our good friends at Shandorovich,
Shandrovich and Shandorovich and Shandrovitch and Shandorovich night I lose track,
Ahmedy of the rs. Sometimes no, it's Shandorovich, that's one,
Shandroovitch that's two. And Fishman, they got your back, not
your wallet. West, ruler of Steelers Nation Radio, had a
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great line. He said, Pitton Virginia Tech should be a
protected rivalry in the ACC now that James Franklin is
the new coach at Virginia Tech. Yeah, I'd love to
see Nardoozy versus Franklin every year. Like West said, call
it the insufferable whammy.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Franklin, like I just said, got hired at Virginia Tech yesterday.
With his recruiting, Virginia Tech will be an acc power
and it won't take long. We always say Mike Tomlin
would have a job right away if he was available.
I'm not so sure that's the case anymore. But it
turns out that description did apply to James Franklin. As
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we found out late yesterday's program, Jamar Chase got suspended
a game for spitting on Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey did
not get suspended for punching Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I'm glad Ramsey didn't get suspended, But would you rather
be punched or spit at?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Chase? Is appealing?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
He says, if he meant to spit, did I hit
Ramsey in the face?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yo, dude, you did it. Own it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's about action and not accuracy. One thing good about
Aaron Rodgers maybe being available for Sunday is the will
Howard should play. Talk is quiet at a bit, but
if Rudolph has to play and he throws an incompletion
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one incompletion, it'll ratchet up again, and God forbid Rudolph
would throw a pick, It'll be the Spanish Inquisition. The
Penguins don't play till Friday, but we got Ryan Shape,
one of their defensemen, on the show at four thirty.
What I'm wondering is, do you think they're kind of
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legit or does their record flatter to deceive? They beat
Nashville four nil at Sweden on Sunday, but they have
lost six out of their last nine. But they have
the third most points in the Eastern Conference, and the
Eastern Conference may be the worst any conference in the
NHL has been since the old Western Division from nineteen
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sixty seven through nineteen seventy, which had all a expansion teams,
including the Penguins. First three years of expansion, they put
all the expansion teams in the West Division, all the
original six in the East, and then the three Stanley
Cup finals were all sweeps. Saint Louis made the final
every year and got swept every year. Montreal for ZIP,
(10:20):
Montreal for ZIP, Boston for ZIP.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
One.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Thing really in the Penguins favor. We have Peerre McGuire
on at three thirty. The Penguins have the number one
power playing in the league right now in the number
four p K in the league. Right now, you keep
that up, you're gonna go places. Let's bring Tommy Radio
back in. Tom Were you surprised Chase got suspended in
not Ramsey? I figured both would get one game.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, I am pretty surprised that that happened, because there's
precedent for both of them. Jalen Carter spitting earlier in
this year, got a game because he got ejected before
that first game, and then.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Well he got suspended after the first snap.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I thought, like, he got ejected before that game, and
then they said, hey, that counts as his game suspension,
which is nonsense, but that's what they said. So there's
the precedent there. And then I think there was a
Commander player. I think a Commander player threw a punch
a couple of weeks ago and got a game suspension.
And then there's more precedent because there's more instances of
players throwing punches throughout the NFL's history than there is
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people spitting on another player. So you've seen it almost
automatically warn a one game suspension.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think it's lucky that Ramsey didn't get tagged.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Is this a mandate against spitting, but approving physical violence
because both are technically assault.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And by the way it seems like I'm done on Ramsey,
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I think he's mostly been very good, and I give
him credit for switching the safety and doing well there
so far.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But getting ejected in a one score game is just done.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You know what else, I'm really surprised that too. And
maybe I'm wrong here and this has come down. I
haven't seen Ramsey get fined even and I think that
would just be automatic, right. I mean, the league loves
handing fines out like candy, and they could hit him
with a pretty big one there, especially if they come
from the angle of like, hey, we didn't even give
you a suspension for this, so we're going to docu
like one hund two hundred thousand dollars for throwing a fist.
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That's the way to send a message, too. I'm surprised
they didn't even do that.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
We talked about the Will Howard mania dying dine a
little bit with with Rogers. Now, looking I would say
he's likely to play just the way it was said.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Don't you think it feels like he's gonna play this game?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And I think it's going to be a mistake. He's
just not gonna be comfortable enough to take a snap
from under center like he needs to.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
He loves operating from under center. It's crucial to this
offense at time.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Don't you think that he'll start and eventually leave the game,
which is the worst case scenario, I think.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, because then you don't have Rudolph prepping the entire
week to beat the Bears. Well, he'll be prepping, you know,
he'll be tomorrow and Thursday, you think.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, Then maybe it won't be that big of a
deal if Rogers does have to leave, and now it
would be because you want Rudolph, if he's going to start, you.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Want him out there in that rhythm as the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I'm telling you, if if Rudolph, do you know, get
a run of games with Rogers hurt, eventually will Howard
will get in the game and might even start. Even
though that's the stupidest thing Tomlin could possibly do. When
it comes to stupid, I can cont on Mike Tomlin.
And don't forget he pulled Rudolph for Duck. That's it
for Duck in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
He pulled him for a quarterback that played at D
three Samford, and this is Will Howard. I mean, people
are over hyping Will Howard, but at least he comes
from Ohio State and has some pedigree attached to his name.
So if he was so willing to bench Rudolph for Duck, yeah,
he could do it for someone like that how old,
My god.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I mean, Duck makes Will Howard look like auto.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Quaint exactly, So yeah, could it could definitely happen. Rudolph
could get hurt too. I mean we talked yesterday that
offensive line regressed. That's probably part of the reason why
Rogers got his ass kicked so much.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Have the Steelers ever had a worse quarterback than Duck, who,
don't forget is now a suitcase pimp?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
No, I don't think they've had a worse quarterback than Duck.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Kenny Pickett statistically kind of gives him a run for
the money.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But I can't say that about my pitman, Kenny Pikett.
I can't say he's worst, and Duck I can't stand either.
And I can't say Pickt's worse than Duck. How bad?
Who's the country start? Did he marry her? Lady Wilson,
and I think they're married. Yep, suitcase Pittman. That's a
hell of a job if you can get it. By
the way, how bad is can he? Pickett?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Gino Smith sucked on Monday Night football? I keep picking
a kick it in the game for the Raiders like Pete.
Carrol won't even throw him out there, apparently if his
life depended on it.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I gotta get this in there, Tom, Jeff, Uh is
it passing or Poissan?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I think it's passing, Jeff passing? He looks funny? Should
he go back? Pissan?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Don't he look funny? Looks like a wax figure. Oh
that's a good call. Yeah, very wax stick out, very waxy.
But he's probably got a lot of makeup on every
time you see him, right, That's probably why he looks waxy.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Uh. Anyway, he said, however, you pronounced Dave that Connor
Griffin will be given every chance to make the opening
day roster at spring training after finishing at double A
last year. That's the Pirates leaking to pass in to
drive off season hype.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So you ignore that they don't increase payroll. That's all
that is.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Sherrington told him that, and you know, Passon's gonna go
with it because it beats having to research the worst
franchise in sports. You know, just take what you're giving
and you wrote something about the Pirates or said something
and beat him bucks. But let's say Griffin does make
the team Tom and let's say he wins Rookie of
the Year.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Do the Pirates make the playoffs? I say no. I'm
gonna say no too. Why would you not bet on?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Our odds are so in our favor. So they get
one bat then, and it's a rookie bat. What's that breakout?
Your look like too? Some guy who has like an
eight hundred Ops. I'm not gonna expect Connor Griffin to
come up here and be Juan Soto on the Nationals
carrying us to a World Series.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I think it would be a mistake to promote him.
It would be very hasty to bring him from Double
A to the Bigs. He'd still be nineteen years old.
And what if he flops? What if heat stinks? I mean,
I'm not saying it would scar him, but it wouldn't
help him do what's best for his development.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Plus, it's not what's best for the Pirates and their
selling of hope to fast track him to the league.
They want to keep that hope down there in the
minors because he is their silver bullet for weathering the schemes.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Like I said, I don't think he's going to make
the big league team, but I think the possibility of
him doing it, as planted by the Pirates with passing,
gets the hype they want out there. It's about it's
about the offseason.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Hype, and they'll dangle it in spring training too, like Connor,
Griffin will play with the big squad for a good
portion of spring training, maybe make it all the way
to the end before they finally send him down to
tripa a mark. Don't you think the national media, though,
is derelict of their duty here by advancing this BS
by the Pirates, the Passes, the Rosenthals earlier in this offseason.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
But you get something out there about the Pirates a
team you really don't want to get anything out there about,
And even if it is just hype and BS, at
least it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Can't you at least attach that to it though, and
be like, I know this is all hype and BS.
This is what I was told by the team, I'm
not buying it until I see the.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Actually, even the best baseball writers, whether you know national
or whatever, or stooges, they stooge for the.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Game, for baseball in particular. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I
see what you're saying there.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Even though I like him, I like passing, I like them.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I've gotta be honest almost every sport. Now, that's the
direction it's headed, is to kind of carry water for you.
Name a national football writer who's really tough on football,
like Doctor Z used to be and Peter King win
the situation called I don't think there is.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
One national writer.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's tough for me because all the people that I
think of, I'm not looking at writers anymore. You know,
my lenses through like talk show hosts calling cowards of
the world, and they are tough on the league and
tough on.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Coward can be. Yeah, and he's in the minority. But
there's still more of those in this.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You look at all the ESPN debate shows, who among
them is tough on the NFL?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
None, none of them. Stephen A. Smith I can kind
of toe that line. He can get there. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, I don't watch I don't know, but yeah, but writer,
nothing's coming to mind right now.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Peter King was gonna be the one I said. He
just retired though.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
We got a SoundBite from Matt Hasselbeck where he compares
Rogers playing with an injured risk to him back when
playing with injured risk. And it's actually insightful because he
talked about the process. But I'm thinking while Matt Hasselbeck
is kind of making it about himself and comparing himself
to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And his best quality is a quarterback was handing it
off to Sean Alexander, right, I don't remember he was
the quarterback who played the Steelers in that Super Bowl
Mark for the Seahawks matts back.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, there was in the other half.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Now ten Tim's of bomb. Tim would never get a
team to a Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
What what a what a super Bowl? Lacking in star
power and memories?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I remember is uh, we had Ben and Bettis on
our side of you hat. Bett's had a bad super
Bowl though, and bended too, and Bettis was kind of
you know, no, I said, I said Ben, or didn't know?
You said Bettis?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, well they both did. Bet just didn't really do anything.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
The only thing I remember is is Antoine Randall el
thrown to touchdown past to Hines Ward and Parker's round
and Heinese and Parker right hind because I have a
good reason for it, though Tom I had a heart
attack the week before five nine the X.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
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Speaker 4 (18:52):
Think outing of Mercedes Benz is out of reach, Think
again exclusively of Mercedes Ben's with Pittsburgh on bomb.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Bulevard had Bobby Rayhall Motorcar Company in Wexford.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Show with Errick Madden and Tom Upperman on.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
X.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I keep getting told that I'm gonna vast minority because
anybody who would get spin on would beat the crap
out of whoever did it.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
First of most you couldn't. I know, I couldn't at
this point.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
All what happened to most of you is somebody would
spit on you. You'd smack him and then then beat the
crap out of you. You'd be over too and covered
in spit and blood. But the point isn't the reaction
to being spin on. The point is your reaction to
being spin on when you're in the middle of a
one score game. That's the point. I wouldn't get thrown
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out of a one score game and hurt my team's
chances of winning for the sake of avenging saliva.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
A little bit later, you're up big late, then take.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
His knee out, beats the heck out of a punch
to the gin, which didn't seem to hurt Chase.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
By the way up.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Dallas killed Vegas last night on Monday Night football and
George Picktts formally of this parish, had a monster game
at wide out, nine catches, one hundred and forty four
yards in a touchdown and the touch that was insane.
He made a catch and a couple cuts and boom afterwards.
Jerry Jones, the Dallas owner slash GM slash fanboy slash,
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perhaps he needs to trying to think of a nice
way to say that he could be experiencing dementia symptoms.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I am.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
He compared Pickett's touchdown to ballet, which is pretty good call,
and of course this reignited the discussion locally that the
stealer should have kept Pickens and hey, look at the numbers.
Fifty eight catches, nine hundred and eight yards, fifteen point
seven yards per catch, and seven touchdowns. Pretty impressive. Those
are better numbers than DK and Austin have combined. Add
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up their stats for all four categories catches, yards, yards
per in, touchdowns, and DK and Austin combined trel George Pickens.
But I still think the Steelers did the right thing
trading him because A. Dallas's offense gets him the ball
and makes plays. They're not stuck in prehistory. B. Piketts
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is protected by CDEE lamb a legit number one. Why
not and see you don't win with guys like Pickens Dallas?
Ain't They're four five and one? How many times here Pittsburgh?
Do you stupid yokels, have to see your team not
win with guys like that to understand that you don't
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win with guys like that. I would have let the
ab levey on bell era, which wasted Ben Roethlisberger and
where Tom Win lost the team's culture permanently. I would
have figured you might have learned from that. But the
keyword there was learned, So no, I'm not surprised it didn't.
By the way, ab update, he is facing thirty years
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in prison, is out on bail charged with attempted murder
with a gun. Apparently he grabbed a gun from a
security guard in Miami after attending a celebrity boxing match,
and he fired two shots. Fired two shots that a
guy had been in a fistfight with earlier. I believe
(22:31):
ab produced the Paul Stanley defense and plead that's no shotgun.
That's my love gun. And by the way, that would
be in keeping with some texts he sent to some women.
I know, I got him in pretty impressive machinery. People
show me everything. There's a girl who got a bunch
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of nude texts from a member of the two thousand
and nine Penguin Stanley Cup champions that she showed me.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I mean, well, she showed me one. I didn't want
to see no more after that.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But and you're gonna say, well, Madden, why won't you
say that as you say if it was a B.
You just said it was a B. Is it because
you like the Penguin? Yes it is, Yes, it is.
Tom Uh. When you were in the dating period with
your wife, did you exchange any sexting?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's none of your basiness.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Mark, come on, oh, come on, you can tell me, Okay,
we're private right now? Yeah, yeah, we did really of course,
are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Pictures too? No, pictures come on now, like like like
your pictures.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Pictures can really expose you, that can really get you
in a lot of trouble. But dirt if you get
what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
If you get caught with pictures on your phone, though, Mark,
you're cooked big time. Well if I mean, that's child
pornography right there? What do you mean if you're a
miners passing around pictures to each other when your wife
when you started to date high school?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
My man, Oh, let's cut this conversation off right now.
I feel like Jeffreys, you're a little weird right now. Yes,
you didn't know that. I didn't. You've only been working
with me for five years. I'm not how old are you?
Thirty one? How long have you been you've been taking
your wife for like fifteen years? That's right.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I'm not sure that they congratulate you or or like
not feel bad.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I mean, you're you're happier than me. You're bad. I'm
having a great time.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
No, No, I mean well, I mean one, I mean, like,
how old were you? How old were you when you
started dating.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Probably around fourteen fifteen years old. Are you serious sophomore
year high school?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah? Are you serious? High school? Did you ever break
up in that time?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
We made it through college long distance. Never cheated. You know,
we're cheated. I don't believe it. As far as I know,
she didn't cheat. I don't believe that. I can see
in your eyes that you're lying.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, okay, I'm lying. Does she listen every day? I
don't know if she listens every day.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Well, she's not right now, so you can tell me.
Never cheated. Where'd you go to college? I went to
du Cane. That's believable. The women, No, that's not well.
Women there aren't attempting, No, they are. They just shut
me down all the time. I mean, why would you
be different?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
What about the Pickings game? I mean he was great,
but like, you just don't win with that guy.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, I think what was so funny too, Mark was
did you notice at the beginning of the game a
little discipline handed down from head coach Schottenheimer for the Cowboys.
Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens had to sit out the
first drive of the game.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
For the Cowboy that showed them the drive well, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
What, it's more than a coach t ever did to
George Pickens? What was his what was his discipline?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Showed up like ten minutes before a game and he
tried to write out here what.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Was his discipline?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
He can't run out of the tunnel and hear the
pop of the crowd like that was his big blow
to him, like you won't get introduced with the offense.
There's a little bit of shame to what Schottenheimer did.
The camera was focused and everybody was saying, what the
hell's going on with Pickens and Lamb, why aren't they playing?
And then Schttenheimer after the game says, they missed some things.
I'm not going to go into any more detail, but
that's what we decided on Monday to do.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
You were fourteen. I feel I feel awful.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
How why because that's a weird thing to feel bad
about it? Like Jeffstein, Oh, you didn't know that part
I'm talking about about. You thought we met probably like
after college or something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
You met like once she became famous from the show.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, right, Well that's the problem is me having to
stiff farm all these chicks.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
After this, after working on this show. Absolutely that's never
been a problem for me.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well that's not true, because, well, like Chris Jericho said that,
when I go into strip joints, I show we're a
baseball captain, says sucker. So I want I have been
stampeded by strippers, been for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I think just a giant kneeon sign that says I'm
your mark, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
No, that was.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, yeah, actually I got ah. The bottle shop used
to be the World Capitol hot waitresses. I saw a
girl who used to work there at the River Hunts game.
She's hanging the national anthem. Her name is Liz. She
was really good at the national anthem. She's still really beautiful.
But she had red hair. Then I thought it was
natural red hair, but now it's black and I'm not
(26:54):
sure what color her hair is for real?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
You forgot no, No, I mean maybe I don't know
if it was died now or died down. I see
what you're saying. She was a cop to shequit. She
quit being a cop too.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Now she's works for UPMC and I sings national anthems.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I guess a cop a hot cop Yep, that'd be
tough to get pulled over by be a little alarming.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I feel like I stumbled into a movie or an
episode of that seventies show. Remember that's how Kelso was
in Cop because he saw the hot cop.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
He got pulled over by a hot cop and then
he saw out a uniform and said, wait, you're an ugo.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It was the uniform that made you hot. I'm getting old.
I could maintain my good looks by being a cop.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
And that's who was he dating at that point in
the show. He had a kid with her, right, who's
the actress, crazy hot actress.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Shannon Elizabeth from American Pop Y Great late casting to
bring her aboard? Yeah she was. She was on for
two years. I think she was. She was a recurring Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And you know who her mother was when when Kelso
met her mother was Morgan Fairchild.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I didn't know that. It was like a latter day Shannon,
you know, a long time ago? Yes? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Do you know where kel she was the valedictorian of
the class. You know where Kelser knocked her up at?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Oh? I do know?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
This is in a bathroom somewhere right in the bathroom
with the Bali hatchet concert.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I won Schler Valedictorian nod. She might have won oh
five ninety X from the Dollar Energy Fund Weather Center.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
This report, it's sponsored by Joe Ball GMC. It's gotta
be clouding today with showers developing. Look for a high
of forty one steady rain tonight with Patchi Fogg overnight
dropping to thirty six bearable cloudiness.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
There's a few.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
More twists to the tail when it comes to Sdor Sanders.
While he was making his NFL debut Sunday, somebody broke
into his home and stole two hundred K worth of belongings.
And Jason Wentlock, who who is one of those right
wing sports guys. And I'm not sure I liked that
combination anymore than I like left wing sports guys. I
mean sports and sports leave politics out of it. But
(28:51):
what Luck made a good point about Shador Sanders, who
looked totally unprepared when he came into the game Sunday.
And you saw the stats, four out of sixteen, a
couple of long sacks, a pick, quarterback rating a thirteen
point five. Sanders has never had to compete for job.
He's always had the quarterback job handed to him his
whole career. You know high school, both of his colleges
(29:13):
got coached by his dad. Why would do you think
he has to work hard and prepare and he clearly
wasn't prepared.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Good point made by Whitlock.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
What do we got today for the trifecta?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
For today's trifecta, Mark, I have a trifecta of college
football takes for you that I want to throw by you.
We're getting into the stretch runner of the college football
season here, only two weeks left. My first take, only
two weeks left. In the two weeks left, it's the best.
But then the playoffs too long now my numbers to
make it. No, they're not gonna make it. They're gonna
lose the Georgia Tech this week and be eliminated for good.
Number three my take college football. It feels to me
(29:45):
like the Heisman Trophy has never meant less than it
does right now, Like the luster of it has just
completely gone. And at one point I feel like, at
its type, market was the greatest individual trophy and maybe
all of sports to win.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I haven't cared about it since day wrongly took it
away from OJ. Number two.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
It's a little weird to me, right now that Notre
Dame is ranked so much higher than Miami and all
of these polls when they lost to Miami in Week
one of this season. That just tells me that the
committee doesn't care about head to head stuff. It's about
who you lost to.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I saw somewhere a member of the committee said to
somebody off the record, but got out there without his
name attached, that we should not even look at the standings.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
We should just pick the teams.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
There should be no guaranteed burst and I hear they're
thinking about there not being any guaranteed spots based on
conference champions because they just want the brand names. They
don't care about finding the best team in college football.
They just want the brand names to get the ratings,
to get the crowds, to get the money.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And this supports that what you heard someone else may
have heard from a committee member, because there's just no
reason they should be ranked ahead of a team that
beat them. There's just no way you can justify it.
But it's going to happen. Number one, though, I think
that this is a very chaotic college football season, but
it's a chaotic race for second place. I think Ohio
State's just going to run away with this thing. And
because back to back champs and it could be a
(31:01):
very boring playoff mark as they just beat teams by
two touchdowns plus every time.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'm not going to watch it, you watch a little
bit of it a little bit accidentally.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I usually watched the championship game because a few times
I've happened to be in Vegas when the championship game
was contested.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That'd be cool.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, And like you know, a sports book or a
big sports bar a place like that. It really is
like an occasion. Oh with that question, you know where
Vegas is really fun? The first weekend of NCAA March madness.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I kind of prefer the semi final day before the
natural national championship game in football, you know you know
what I mean? You get the two games back to
back of each other, the weightiest games of the season,
have a good chance if one of the games is
a stinker, I get another shot at one being good.
I don't know, that might be my favorite day. That'd
be a goo day to be in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I prefer whatever day they're not playing college football. What
you know, have you ever thought about how and it
wasn't always this way Tom. I used to watch Pitt
Penn State. I used to watch every sporting event I
could to keep up for this show, and now I
barely watch any sports compared to back then.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Anyway, is it weird that a sports talk.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Coast is so pointed about what he won't watch because
it bores the piss out of him?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
No, I think it's refreshingly honest that you say that.
You're saying, No, I'm very serious about that, and I
love your take.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
You said, I think it's in your contract.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Do you One of the conditions for getting on Mike
was to call me refreshingly honest.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
That doesn't mean I don't mean it. At least twice
a week, I don't mean it even though if it
isn't writing.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
And as far as the contract goes, I mean, why
take a chance?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And something that you set off the air to me
so many times, and you said it on the air too,
is as you've gotten older, you just watch the things
that you like and the sports that you like. Or
Liverpool and the Penguins and in the NHL in general,
in soccer and.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Gen yeah, I watch.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I watch Liverpool and the Penguins first, NHL third behind
those two Premier League at Coast fourth Chimp, well, Premier
League Champions League.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Call that soccer, Yeah, all that soccer.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I don't watch. I don't watch Spain, Germany and Italy
much unless it's like like the classic er with with Lever,
with uh with Dortmund and and Munich. But yeah, I
just like and I never watched college sports at all.
I don't you know what really turned me off college
sports though. I think Nardoozi is a blow hard, and
I think Cape's a blow hard too, And I don't
(33:05):
think either of him understands where he's at. I think
Nardoozi thinks he's still in the East Lansing. I think
he thinks that the program is more important here than
it is. And Capele's same thing with Dorham. He thinks
this program at the Pitt Basketball is more important. Like
he was the duke assistant, right, Yes, yeah, well I
got it right, dorm see, I remembered. But I just
I'm just I'm not interested in the first place. And
(33:27):
then when you got guys that I don't like coaching
and you really haven't done.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Much now, it's arrogance without accomplishment, much accomplishment With him,
I know Nardoozi does have the a SEC.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Title in his back pocket, but that's as fluky as
it really. Can you pick it one?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Now?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh yeah, it's like ninth year. So what else?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Don't I like, you'll dip your tone into the water
when it's like a big NFL playoff game, like Alan Mahomes,
you know what I mean, Like you'll watch that.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And if Sunday Night football or a big matchup, I
watched that, Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Not the Steelers, Well you have to watch the Steelers.
You have to watch the Steelers. What else?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I'll watch the NBA if it's a matchup, I like,
if I'm flipping the dial, if I'm flipping the dial.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Not appointment team, no appointment TV. Ever.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
You know, I watch more baseball than people would believe
because I think it's a great game.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I think the Pirates have ruined it here in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Well, what baseball has always had going for him, too,
is in those summer nights. I mean there's just nothing
else on sometimes and like you know what I mean,
like late July, you just almost inevitably have to watch
a baseball game.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I just take the self righteousness know of baseball media
who think that it's still like America's past time when
it's way down the list of pastimes, behind the NFL,
behind third.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Place TV, behind Netflix.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I mean, if you include those into it and not
just sports, Yeah, it's way down the list, cooking shows.
NBA's probably passed it two, don't you think it's probably
closer than I'm giving a credit to.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And MLB maybe have gained some ground, obs.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Enough to remember when the three big sports, and I've
said this often last show, the three big sports were
in order of baseball, boxing, horse racing, and nothing else
mattered in a little bit, including the NFL until the
name of Super Bowl, until Super Bowl three, the AFL
NFL merger, Name It Guaranteed Victory. TV became a big
thing for football. Name it was America's hero name. It
(35:12):
doesn't get enough credit. Never mind what a great quarterback
he was at Bama and with the Jets, he doesn't
get enough credit for bringing football to the absolute pinnacle
of American of American perception.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I would argue now that there's really only one big
sport in America, and it is football, because you know,
all the other sports just get blown out of the
water completely. You look at the networks like ratings for
the most watched shows every year, including other shows, not
just sports. It's always the NFL baseball.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
In ratings. Did you know there's gonna be pickleball movie?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
No?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Is it gonna be funny?
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Though?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I think I do a slant. Well, that's a good start.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
You know what The premise is A retired tennis champion
comes back to play pickleball to something like save the club,
like the tennis club from being you.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Know, shut down. This sounds good. It sounds like dodgeball
with pickleball. All right.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
If it's rated R we get Ben Stiller a couple
other great characters in there. I know there's a role
for Vince Vaughn in there somewhere. I just know it.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Jim Florentine when he was in town, he has a
pickleball riff in his routine. He burries pickleball and I
no offense to gym. My punchlines were better than his.
Like my punchline that pickleball is table tennis if they're
standing on the table. He's using that when moving forward.
I can tell you that one oh five ninety x
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