November 17, 2025 • 38 mins
Mark and Tommy Radio recap the Steelers and the Bengals, talk a little Pitt embarrassment and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Steelers still aren't very good. They just made a
few plays against a bad team. The game was fun well,
the second half was the two defensive touchdowns brought the fun,
the injury to Rogers to war and two that brought
the drama. Gainwell did just fine in place of Warren.
Maybe better, definitely better as a pass receiver. And I'm
(00:23):
a Rudolph guy.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Mason.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Rudolph should have.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Been the starting quarterback for the Steelers from when Ben
retired until now, and I bet the Steelers for sure
would have done better. I mean, look at what I
talked about a minute ago twenty nineteen, Rudolph starting. Ben's hurt,
the elbow popped, You should have tanked, but you traded
for Micam Mason's rolling along at five and three, and
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you decide Duck should play because Tom was an idiot,
and he loses the last three games and the Steelers
don't make the playoffs, so you might get your wish.
I can see Tom Win being just dumb enough to
use Will Howard if Rudolph stumbles. Why does he not
respect Rudolph? I don't know, but he doesn't. Maybe it's
(01:10):
because Rudolph supposed to be a trumper. I mean, hey,
if Aerosmith can kick out a finding member Joey Kramer
the drummer because he's a trumper, Tom Win could bench
Rudolph because he's a trumper. Oh and by the way,
good for James Pierre with the defensive touchdown. He deserved it.
He's been playing very good in a role that's now expanding.
(01:32):
So what a bunch of fun Owen Baltimore barely beat Cleveland.
But Baltimore did beat Cleveland. Shador played, he sucked. I'm
Mark Madden, blah blah blah. Follow me on Twitter at
Mark Madden x. Right now, let's go to Tommy Radio.
Tom what was your take on the Steelers win and
how Mason Rudolph played upon entering the game at halftime.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I thought Mason Rudolph did exactly what we thought he
could do. He was and when we all thought he
would need to be called upon in that manner. Finish
off a game for Aaron Rodgers, potentially start a game
for Aaron Rodgers because he's injured, which I think we're
gonna see this Sunday. I'm leaning towards Rudolph is probably
gonna get the start against Chicago He's a very good backup,
a top tier backup when it comes to this league.
(02:18):
And I really just don't understand how people want to
even toy with the notion of Will Howard right now.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Which they are. I know they are in your six
and four and it's.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
A vocal to I think a small group of idiots,
But boy, they won't shut up.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You're six and four and in first place, still in
the AFC North, and you want to hand the keys
off to a rookie. Hell no, I want to hand
the keys off to an accomplished backup like Rudolph to
keep us afloat.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But are you just counting the possibility that Rudolph struggles
tom Win pulls another duck six years later and goes
to Will Howard.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I would hope he would learn from that mistake, I
would hope.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
So he's not learned from anything ever, Mike Doblin, come
on right, So there is a chance that if Rudolph
has a bad game, why not try Will Howard roll
him out there and see what the rookie can do.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Okay, sure I could see it half him.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
If him he's a six round pick, you don't do it.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I want to ride Rudolph for as long as you
have to until Rogers coffee.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
He has earned playing until Rogers comes back. At what
point do we acknowledge this guy's always come through when
he's been deputized and he deserves to play while Rogers
is injured.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
If Rogers told the Steelers to screw this offseason and
they were just stuck with Rudolph to start the year,
are they.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Five and five, like one game worse?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Maybe they're six and four still, who knows, But I
don't think they're that drastically worse.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, I think my point's well made about rod about
Rudolph being better less antsy in the pocket than Rogers.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Oh, without a question. I mean he's what is he
just thirty years old or just about to turn thirty
years old? Yeah, of course he's less antsy in the pocket,
and he is I think, willing to push the ball
downfield more because of that, because he's willing to take
a hit. He'll let And Rudolph's arm always had talent
like that was the thing that was the big draw
is he could sling it if you give him time
and if he has confidence to do so.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
My thing with Rogers is I think the last couple
of weeks, especially at LA he was making business decisions.
I think he's figured out this teammate't that good. He's
not gonna sit in there and take a big hit.
Maybe he'll feel different after he since out a bit
and rejuvenates.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I didn't even think of it from that angle.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
That could be the best thing going for the Steelers
if Rudolph can play these next couple of times.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I said that before the season. I said that when
they signed Rogers.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, if he could take over for this game against Chicago,
get the win, then play Buffalo. Not gonna say he
beat Buffalo, but you know, make it respectable looking, and
then Rogers can come back after a few weeks off
against the Ravens. I don't hate that scenario at all.
That might be the best case scenario for the Steelers.
What's your take on Ramsey's ejection. I understand him being upset,
but you've got to be smarter.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, I see, honestly both sides of the arguments. I
don't you just got to be smarter. You got to
spit on though.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
That's not a big deal. It's not it's.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Not a big deal. I think it is a little
bit of a big deal. I don't want to get
spit on.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Nobody wants to get spin on.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
People saying it's the most violent disgusting thing I could
think up, Like, does this I mean somebody defecating on
my front porch.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I I'd rather be spit on than deal with that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
There's much worse, violent, disgusting things that could be done
to your face even than getting spit on. But I
do think it's a little bit of a joke that
the refs didn't take both, right, isn't that usually what
happens there? We just grab both of these guys.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They just didn't see it. Sometimes you're so close to something, Tom,
you don't just.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Miss it, even just right in front of your face.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
If they would have taken both, though, that might have
been Jaylen Ramsey's best defensive player of the entire afternoon,
just grabbing Chase out of the game. So I think
that the refs should have grabbed them both, and we
would have looked at it from a different light. You
need Ramsey in the fourth quarter of a game, though,
you just do. There's no way of avoiding that argument.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well, by that time, they had shut down Chase, they
had shut Don Flacco. The game wasn't quite in hand
score wise, but I felt like they were well on
their way and they knew it and Cincinnati knew it.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It did still make you nervous though, that, oh, there's
still a fourth quarter to play here, and what if
this is the moment where Chase, you know, gets loose
over the top for a big sixty yard time.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
What do you think they did to shut down Chase.
I think Ramsey helped for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I think they played two safeties high and the corners
played more aggressive.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yes, And I think his physical presence at the safety
spot was a factor.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
He hit Chase hard early in that game and don't
know that he was there.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I loved the game Ramsey played, hence me wanting him
to stay in his conclusion.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And I think James Pierre, I think you have to
give a lot of credit to James Pierre. They didn't go,
you know, Porter take Higgins, Pierre take Chase. They were
flipped them back and forth for the most part of
the game. But I think Pierre played an outstanding game
when he did find himself on Chase, and he deserves
to be the starting outside corner.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Now you know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Now that I've said getting spit on is no big deal,
Somebody's gonna spit on me at one of my appearances,
and then you know what I'll do, tom I'll hit
him in the head with a hammer because I ain't
got no team.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
There's no fourth quarter for you to stay in.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Right, exactly. I don't have to cover. I don't have
to help cover Jamar. They're not kicking you out of
your viewing party. They'll throw you a parade for doing that.
To somebody who does that to you.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, I'd just assume it not happened. But I just
don't see it. Like I said, it's not not battery acid.
You gotta like Dugger. I mean, normally Tom Win and
his prattle about the is just nonsense. But he does
have stability at safety now, and I think Dougger is
maybe even a bigger reason than Jayalen Ramsey.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, but it is hard for me to get past
the fact that you traded away from stability at the
safety position by moving on from Minka Fitzpatrick, and then
you almost had to fix your own problem.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That you know what, what what makes me angry about
about that?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And you're right, but they're not getting anything out of
John US Smith, who should have made a difference maker
in the trade.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That would make me feel a lot better about it
for sure. And to be fair, O Ramsey hasn't had
a pick in a while, but Douger has a pick
six yesterday. So you're getting the splash from the safety
playing good though, right, But you're saying he didn't what
he had to cover chase Man up, but he just
can't do that no more. The splash just dried up
completely with Minca. So yeah, it was great that he was,
you know, keeping things stable as far as that is concerned.
(07:48):
But you need splash from that position now, and you're
getting it from Dougger and I think you'll get it
from Ramsey soon too.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I don't like the offensive line. I think it's going backwards.
I think both quarterbacks are under too much press yesterday.
But I gotta say one thing. Darnell Washington just rumbling, stumbling, bumbling.
He's sheer bulk baby. I mean, I still don't think
he's the best tight end on the team, But what
they do get out of him, I mean, Farmouth can't
do that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
JOHNU.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Smith can't do that. Then again, we don't know because
I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
There were a couple series where those guys didn't play
at all, neither of them.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I don't think he's the best tight end on the
team either, but it's under in love with him though, Tom.
But I think it's undeniable that that wrinkle is so valuable.
They're in love with them.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's hard not to be when you see that play.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
They use the extra offensive line, but I think a
dozen times, which is actually a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Oh the jump up pet and they're in thirteen personnel
more than any team in the NFL by a wide margin.
Matt usually puts that in most of his stat packs know.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
It's funny though, when they're in thirteen, Washington doesn't play.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
He comes off the field for that, and with Anderson
in there as the tackle eligible John neu Smith is
so disappointing.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I mean, you want to.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Talk about somebody that was supposed to stand on him.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You don't think, so he's hardly targeted. They make a.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Million excuses for DK.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Why not for John Hu I don't know, And honestly,
they just have no rhyme or reason with the usage
of their players.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Same thing with the running back position.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Although they were kind of proven right for playing game
well as much as they have in this past game.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, Gain was more of a pass receiver than a runner.
I feel bad for Warrant because he was on a
roll when he got hurt. One thing, there were so
many things in this game to laugh at though, top
like Orlando bron Junior for Baltimore, he commits movement every
single snap. He's going back into his pass blocking stance
like a split second before the ball snap, but every time.
(09:34):
And also the roughing the passers under the context.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Of the rules, they were all correct.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I just hate the rules.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And then DK with the opis, I mean they were a.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Little bit sketchy.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
The pick wasn't the pick was OPI, but the one
where he pushed off that was nothing most receivers don't do.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
DK commits OPI almost every snap and they're looking for it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, I think I agree with you on that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
The roughing the passers, You're absolutely right about it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Like TJ.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Watt used the force of his body to slam Flacco
into the ground and there's nothing he can really do
to avoid that, but it is against the rule. And
then whoever it was for the Bengals went low on Rogers.
I'm kind of more of a fan of avoiding the
you know, going low on a quarterback. I think that
can help keep quarterbacks in the game. And you want
to keep starting quarterbacks in the game if you're the NFL.
But the stuff with like Watt landing on the quarterback,
(10:26):
I mean, how do you avoid that? You have to
fix that rule. That's tom Mark boy. We got a
lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I mean, the opis the roughing the passers, the spitting
Mason in the game, shad door, screw it up.
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I got three passing touchdowns and three rushing touchdowns in
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quarterback in the league, not Lamar, not Mahomes. Especially with
Kansas City losing to Denver, Kansas City ain't gonna make
the playoffs. I don't hate that Steelers win for yesterday.
(12:13):
I don't love it, but I don't hate it either.
It's just a win. It's against Cincinnati. I know you
lost to them earlier in the year. I know Flacco
ripped you apart. Then you should have won then. Winning
now it's pedestrian. But if you're happy, I'm happy. Cleveland
almost beat Baltimore, almost but didn't. Chador played and he sucks.
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I'll talk more about that at length later. So the
Steelers still lead the AFC North by one game. Baltimore
is five and five, has won four in a row,
figuring out ways to win when it's tight, which is
to their favor. Steelers at Baltimore December seventh, a day
that will live in infamy. Kansas City lost to Denver
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and are now three losses back in the AFE West.
Kansas City's won that division for a decade, but not
no more. In fact, right now, the Chiefs are out
of the playoffs. They're gassed. They're not gonna make it.
I told you so before the season even started. Penguins
got three points out of four against Nashville and Sweden
and should have got all four. Blew a late lead
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on Friday and lost in overtime. But the Penguins played
a smart game on Sunday. They got the puck in
deep and let Nashville suck like Nashville does three zero
end to one. Managed to lead. Some stupid by the Penguins,
not too much. PK has been great empty net goal
to wrap it up. Drink some glog on the flight home.
(13:39):
That's a good trip to Sweden. And now off till
Minnesota gets here on Friday. I should have gone. I
should have gone to see the Abba Museum. Anyway, Morishoff
got his first win and his first shutout yesterday, and
that's good. But he didn't have to do a lot
twenty one saves. It's a win, and the Penguins needed one.
Kindle back at center by the way him once Did's
(14:00):
was worth a try, but it just didn't work. Let's
talk some more Steelers now with Tommy Radio. Tom the
spinning thing. It's catching fire on Twitter. It's like, what
if he spin on you? Well, if I'm Ramsey, I
finish winning the game, because that's what matters.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, I know you think that way, but I'm right
about this period. It would be so hard for.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Me to put myself in those shoes and to not,
you know, at least push him back, at least shove
him back respond in some way.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You know what I do. You know what I'd have done.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'd have wait until the last Cincinnati series when the
Hayes in the barn and taken a big cheap.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Shot like in the replacements, like Clifford Franklin right at
the end of the What doesn't he just punch the
guy right at the snap or no, I'm thinking of
the longest yard when they go on the kickoff and
they just go and obliterate the guards in the A. Yeah,
when they kick off the opening kickoff and they're like
drop kicking them down the field.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That's what he should have done.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I would have said that you could always get one
thing that's been lost on a lot of today's athletes.
You can get retribution later, like revenge a dish best
serf cold, and the dish surf smarter.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's a very good point. I will definitely see to
that point. He should have waited till later and then
gotten his revere.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Like say he lines up Manda Man on the last
Syerari Cincinnati's hopelessly out of the game, yes, and Ramsey
just punches him in the nuts. I'd have been all
for that. I didn't glamorize that glorified it.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I just celebrated because the big hang up that you
have with this is you lost arguably your best defensive
player for an entire quarter of a football.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Got to win the game that comes first.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Now, do you think you lose him for longer than
a game?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Do you think Ramsey is potentially going to get suspended
because he threw a punch and there is precedent.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I think they will take into a content he got
spat on.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You know what, though, if they suspend Chase, it's tough
to not suspend Ramsey.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I bet they both get a game.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I think they have to suspend Chase too, right, because
they suspended Jalen Carter at the beginning. Remember they suspended
him quote unquote because they kicked him out before the opener.
They kicked him out the first play. Yeah, so they
gave him like time served. They're like, that was his suspension.
He was suspended in the game. That's why I think
they're going to have to give it to Chase at
least one game.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
What what did you think of that win in general? Tom,
I'm not sure that win was his convincing as to score.
It was a one score game late and I'm not
sure the Steelers are a good six and four. I'm
not sure the Steelers are very good still.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I just don't know if I found out anything about
them with this win. You know, I found out that
Rudolph is a very good backup and that they're resilient
when he came into the game. But like, the defense
got a ton of splash, and more so than they
have all year because they got two defensive scores. But
like when the defense gets splashed, the team wins. Like
I knew that already.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Well, I love Duggar. I mean, he's played very well.
The pick sixtal. He noted he's a physical force, which
is something they needed back there. He's a good Connor
point to Ramsey, the other safety. When they have Deshaun
Elliott back, they'll have an embarrassment of riches. They'll be
able to really do some different things with Nickel and
Dime that I think will serve them well. But I
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got to give a lot of credit to James Pierre.
He got the pick six as well, and he's looked
brilliant these last two weeks. Now, I will say and
Brandon Eckles had a good game two. But I will
say you when a backup has a few good games
in a row, you can't contin he'll keep doing it.
Although Eccles, who did play good then played bad, did
regroup yesterday.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah, but I think it's because Echol's got to go
back to kind of his role, right, That's truck backrole
that he's supposed to be, and because true Pierre usurped
him and was playing on the outside a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I feel what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I mean, Pierre is probably not going to be a
long term answer, but I would keep putting him out
there in that spot, even if Slagh clears concussion protocol.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I would go Pierre first for as long as it works.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Joe Lion's going backwards?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Ain't it going backwards?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The big package duely noted well.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I thought I thought Rogers and Rudolph were both under
too much pressure going.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Backwards, probably with Proderick Jones.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I think Fatana is pretty good though, like I feel
like Fetano and a lot of people are pointing out
that he's playing really well.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well. He's in the fact though, rookie after being hurt
all of last year, and he has his ups and downs.
But I think he's moving in the right direction. I
don't think Jones is. But the problem is they ruined Jones.
He should have been left tackle from day one. And
if I say that too much, it's not because it's wrong,
it's because it's right.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Now, are you in a spot where you need a
left tackle when you look forward with this team, you know,
as early as next year, and that's terrible to be.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And when you've we'll find out what they think if
they don't pick up the fifty year option on his contract,
if they will decide, I don't think they will either.
But boy, what an indictment that is of them. We're
trading up and failing to develop.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
No question, it's an indictment on their drafting ability, and
their drafting ability should come under the fire.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
They don't draft.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Think this organization has the Vegas clue of what it's doing,
and yet it's still how stumbles the records like six
and four.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Right now, I don't understand it either.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
It has to be a combination of the incompetence of
other NFL franchises meeting them too, right Like, it's not
like all these other franchises are run perfectly.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It ain't a league full of Einstein's. I think it's
safe to say what kind of challenge will Chicago post
next week? Just just a quick look ahead, there's seven
and three, just beat Minnesota, and Minnesota made a mistake
in quarterback understandably, you know, going with McCarthy the kid.
They should have franchised Arnold, and I think they'll live
and learn from that. Maybe Rogers is their quarterback now
(19:00):
next year, or maybe Mason Rudolph. But I'm not sure
what to think of Chicago or where Caleb Williams is at.
I'm sure he's gonna be a good quarterback, and some
weeks he is. Most weeks he is, some weeks not
so much.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I think Ben Johnson's a really good coach. I think
they nailed it. I think they nailed it with him.
I think he's clearly the OC as well as head coach. Yeah,
but I think he's making good head coaching decisions too.
I think the Bears are really fake though as far
as leading the NFC North is concerned, they have.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
No fake faker than the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
At six and four, I think these two teams are
pretty comparent.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I mean, the Bears are seven and three, tom in
a really tough division.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, but you're leading a really tough division.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Okay, but here they're wins Cowboys, Raiders, Commander, Saints, Bengals, Giants, Vikings.
None of that jumps out of the page to you.
They lost fifty two to twenty one to the Lions earlier.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, but the Steelers beat New England in Indy because
New England and into the Indy fed up.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I mean, I mean, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I think these are even teams, but some, but some
big wins unquote are fool's goal. I think these are
very even teams.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
And the Bears defense this is very similar to the Steelers,
where they stink and give up a lot of yardage,
but they take the ball away a ton.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It was great that Mason came in because at least
it livened up the game yesterday.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That game was a doll first half.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
So many Steelers games are just so boring and dull,
and honestly, that's why I think it's hard for me
to get excited about this game. The first half offense
just looks so against one of the worst defenses in
league history. I needed the offense with Rogers to look
good for a change, and it didn't other than the
first drive.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
When I was at Carson's Tavern and Scott Deale yesterday
for my viewing party, you know what I said at
halftime to lead off my halftime talk, Well, that's ninety
minutes of our lives. We'll never get back. And I've
had to say that more often than not with Steeler
games this year. I couldn't eat their famous cheddar Chiefs
pizza Tom because I want to waken one eighty know
what I could eat though they had a buffet in
the in the opposite room. The dining room made to
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order omlets, pinach, mushroom, Jalapano's bell peppers not bell peppers?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
What's the banana ring peppers? Oh? Tomato?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Just unbelievable. So thanks to everyone out there at Carson.
I got a river Hus viewing party this coming Saturday,
tom for the usl L Championship game. I'll talk about
that a little bit later. River Hus in the final
Tom three playoff games. They scored one goal and they're
in the final, which shows you that soccer is not
a sport for playoffs.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
One oh five ninety X. It's the Woody Show weekday
mornings at six. Pretty cool. It is super cool the
X at one five nine.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
We're gonna talk a whole lot of Steelers all day long.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
But right now on the pregame show brought to you
by Shandorovich, Shandrovich and Fisherman, I want to talk about
it bout Pitt because Pitt cattlamb basted by Notre Dame
at Akraschuur on Saturday thirty seven to fifteen, and it
wasn't even that close.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Pitt's offense didn't get a touchdown till garbage time.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
In fact, Nardoozy, who said the game didn't matter, called
a timeout with five seconds left to get the garbage
time touchdown, which shows what a petty jackass he is.
I'm gonna talk a lot more about him later, but
I think the I should be fired. I think he's
a terrible representative for Pitt. And that's saying a lot
because I've always seen Pitt is kind of a high
school with Ashtrace not a lot better. But Pitt embarrassed
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itself in front of a sellout and Aaron Donald and
Tony Dorr said, who ripped no tore name apart fifty
years to the very day, over three hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
He's Pitt's best player ever.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And Tony Dor said, had to see that in a
week where the coach said the game wasn't that important.
Heinschel was terrible, Holstein through the only touchdown. Well, Heinschel
threw a touchdown, but it was to Notre Dame. Maybe
He's not the next Marino, just like Holstein isn't. Just
like Pikett wasn't. I mean, no, tore Name got two
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touchdowns in ten seconds. That sounds like a Motley Cruz song.
Pitt wasn't competitive, got badly manhandled in the trenches, and
now seems poised for its annual late season collapse under Nardoozi.
Pitt is clearly a class legit teams, just like the
ACC is a class below legit conferences. It was a
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disappointing afternoon. We all hope to see better, and Desmond
Reid got hurt. On top of everything, Tom, you're a
pit guy. You went to the game. What was the
atmosphere like before the game?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Oh, the atmosphere was awesome, I mean yeah, and the
build up was perfect, and then the team just went
out there and laid a complete egg.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It was so embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
You mentioned a couple of the pick greats that were back,
but Darryl Reeves was there too, Hugh Green was on
the field because of Aaron Donald going up in the rafters.
I mean, it was just the perfect kind of pit
game until the game actually started to be played. The
thing that you said about the trenches was the most
obvious thing. Yeah, I mean Notre Dame just on the
defensive side of the ball, were just pushing stronger, better
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a single time that tomably on both sides of the trenches.
I thought, Tom, that team could win the national championship.
I think that that is very clear. They have arguably
the best player in the country with Jeremiah Love, who,
by the way, that spin move, Oh my god, he's
currently better than any Steeler running back right now on
the roster.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Jeremiah I Love's freak of nature, no question.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
But that's the difference between a pit and no question, Pitt.
Don't get a guy like that.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
No, And you know what, you got to be the
team that gets a pick six, which ironically Pitt did
later in the game, But you got to be the
team that gets a pick six early to pull an
up set like that. And Mark, I don't know if
you watched the beginning of the game, Pitt's first drive,
they're moving the ball, they're getting some momentum. They try
the big shot. Number five just drops it right through
his hands. Would have been on the doorstep of the
Notre Dame end zone. At that point, you just kind
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of get deflated and it all goes downhill.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Well, it was easy to get deflated after the coach
said the game one.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Day doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, that pick six was game over, two touchdowns and
ten seconds. Now does that loss at all shake your
faith in hein Schilick quarterback? Or did it just remind
us that he's a true freshman?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, I didn't shake my faith. People were getting way
too ridiculous when it came.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
No, I don't tell you hate. I think he's gonna go. Still.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
I think there's still not a good chance that pick
keeps him. I still think people are going to heavily
come after him in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Do you think the fact that they gave Holstein a
million bucks and he turned out to be that good
will deter Pitt for making a similar offer to Heinschel.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I think there's a chance it will. But it can't
allow that to They can't allow that to happen because
this is the game now, right. You gotta pay money
for quarterbacks. You can't worry about a bad deal like
the pirates so often do, because it's a waste of money.
You can't view it through that. Lens Pitt just can't
help it. Look foolish Tom like, nope, Like the replayover
turns to Pitt touchdown. Pitt then gets a pick six immediately,
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but Notre Dame gets a pick two on the two
point conversion. Just an excrements show and Donald's there and Dorset,
my god, and then the time out with five seconds
left to get a meaningless touchdown, so petty, like, I
can I can go go through that game and find
like five or six embarrassing moments, Yes, and you could
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overlook them except for what Nardoozy said. What Nardoozy said
about the game not being important seemed a harbinger for
the way it turned out. Yeah, I don't think we
would have been focusing on the time out late in
the game if he didn't say that at the beginning
of the week.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And I also think we.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Wouldn't have been hammering him and the team for losing
like they did to a team the caliber of Notre
Dame if he didn't set the table by saying this
is basically an exhibition game.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Who really cares what happens when we go out? He's
just a freakin' a hole. I hate him. I hate him.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
There's very few instances where because I don't believe in
swearing on the air. I think it shows your lack
of intellect. But I wish I could call him an
fing a hole and not bleep myself. I just I
there's not enough bleeps to to block out on the air.
The contempt I have for that guy, I always have
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that he just doesn't get it, and he never has.
When they lay eggs against West Virginia, it's the same
kind of talk. He's like, well, that's not a conference game,
it doesn't really matter. It matters everything. He thinks he's
in East Lands and he thinks he's great ten. He
kind of looks down at even Pitt like about the ACC.
If you would have said to the average pit fan,
you're gonna go one and one in the last two games,
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not being the ACC final, but beat Notre Dame a
home in front of Tony dor Set, they would have
picked beating Notre Dame at home and a Tony dor
Set mark.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I would trade all three of those games, lose to
Notre Dame Georgia Tech in Miami, just to go back
and beat freaking West Virginia and Morgantown.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
That's all I really cared about this year, and.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
That's the one thing that can't get erased. Now, where
does pitch Sason go from here?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Tom, Because now it's at Georgia Tech and at home
against Miami, A two ranked teams. But again, they're good
only within the context of the ACC Correct. This isn't
the count Georgia Tech should have lost this week.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I agreed.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
This is not the caliber of team that Notre Dame is,
So I don't think Pitt's going to get completely bullied
off the field in either game. Although Miami did beat
Notre Dame in Week one of the season, but that
might have been just a Week one fluke kind of thing.
I think they'll give Georgia Tech a good fight this weekend.
I feel like they'll go down there and lose, though,
and then they'll end up losing to Miami to just
to complete the pat and ardoozy prophecy of collapsing and
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finishing seven to five.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I saw the remake of The Running Man. It was
very good, better than the original and more faithful to
the novel by Stephen King. I know the people out
there don't read, but I do, and again, I think
it benefited by sticking closer to the plot of the
novel way over the top with violence and blood and action,
but still very good. Glenn Powell, who's kind of the
(28:11):
flavored du jour among actors. He was this angry guy.
Josh Brolin was a great heel, and he was a
great heel because he acted like a real TV executive,
because they're all heels.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Radio two.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I love the idea of a dystopian America, which we're not.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Far from, No, we are not. Would you participate in
The Running Man if you could, or would you be
the host?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I couldn't even be the Walking Man. I would be
the host.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
The host was great. And you said they split the
character right, Like the host wasn't the main.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I forget the actor's name, but he was.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Bobby t was the host, Like yeah, you know, like
like they split the Richard Dawson character in half and
Josh brol and they even called him Killian like like
Dawson's character in the original. But it was good because
you know what, it made me realize the first Running
Man wasn't very good. It was just a vehicle for
Schwartz Nigger to be witty and toss out one liners
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in a situation that didn't call for Witt and one liners.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Glenn Powell played the character like you would.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Play if you were literally running for your life, and
I can't wait to see I can't wait to see it.
I'm definitely going to Michael Sarah though, and the trailer
stole the show for me, so I'm sure he's great
in the movie.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
He is real good. H William H.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Macy in a very short role appearance. Yeah, but it's
really good.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Uh. Sarah's the main character, right, Michael Sarah?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
No, no, he They don't forget the guys.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
On the run, okay, so there's people he's meeting throughout
the movie. Yeah, but Sarah's in on trying to help him, okay.
And and does is Macy or is Macy an enemy?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Macy also went on but both do not prosper by
the attempt uh?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I also UH on Cable.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I also rewatched because I saw it on one of
my transatlantic flights. I also watched the remake of Roadhouse
with Jake Gillen Hollis Dalton deceptively very good. A different take,
but but on a I mean, the original Roadhouse with
Swayzey is just so ingrained into people's minds and mine too,
the one with Chillenholme might actually be a better movie.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Better movie wasn't The Hang Up for You? Though, McGregor
as the heel.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Way over act it's too bad, way over.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I should have gone a real actor for that.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Like when I say he was over the top, I
mean he was over the top being over the top.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Get an accomplished actor in there.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I mean, Josh Brolin is one of the greatest actors
we have going to play the heel in The Running Man,
that's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Early the Dalton character is a little more quirky.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Early on, seven guys show up to beat up Dalton,
and Dalton says to the one guy goes, well, you
know I'm a former Ultimate Fighter. You're not gonna kick
my ass. He goes, no, We're all gonna kick your ass.
He goes, oh, seven of you. Well that's not even fair.
It's it's like again there's humor where you wouldn't look
for youmor and with Connor McGregor unintentionally so, but it's
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a real good movie.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Which Dalton kicks more ass? The Swayze or the Jillen
Hawkway the swayzey one?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Which Running Man six? More ass Swartzenegger or Powell. Oh,
it's a tough one there, Schwartznigger shorts. Snigger is more physical.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Powell's smarter, okay, Pow and like and like there's stuff
in in the in this Running Man, like you have
to send in tapes every day that they broadcast, but
they doctor the tapes to turn you into a heel.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You know. There's like it like so it chourage the
country to kill you.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Really the movie is an indictment of media, as is
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Speaker 1 (31:57):
The Pittsburgh Riverhounds made the USL Championship game beat Rhode
Island on Saturday at High Mark at Station Square one nil.
Of course, river Huns got to the league final, scoring
one goal in three games, which is why soccer probably
shouldn't have a playoff, but you got to love those
penalty kicks even though they weren't needed. On Saturday, Robbie
Martin scored the only goal, a great cut and strike.
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The Upper Saint Clair Kid totally packed sixty seven hundred
plus beyond the sellout, great atmosphere, really big time. So
congrats to my buddy Tuffy Shallenberger, the owner and the
river Hounds. The USL Final is at Tulsa on Saturday
at noon.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
There's going to be a viewing party. I'll smarten you
up on that later in the week.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Tulsa.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I like the women there just spelled the city backwards. Tom,
what do we got for the trifecta?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
For today's trifecta, Mark, I have three people that were
memorably spit on in honor of Jalen Ramsey being spit
on by Jamar Chase in honor of great Number three
for me is the gus Bus plus several others. The
movie The bench Warmers at the hands of Sammy the Sprinkler.
You remember Sammy the Sprinkler and the bench warm.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
That was intentional spitting. He just had he just had.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
A speech for a lift. He's still getting the spit
on though, like I just did.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Advertly, it seemed to develop.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Number two is Jonah Hill's character set at the beginning
of the movie Super Bad, when the bully just hawks
a mean lugi right on his shirt after saying he's
not invited to his party at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And he has just stand there and he kay stands there.
He's in fact, I think he says thank.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
You, but he got revenge by dating Emma stone By
movies end yes correct.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Number one, though, of course, is Kramer and Newman By.
They thought Keith Hernandez, but it turned out to be
Roger McDowell.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
That is one of the best sine fold episodes ever
because it's so cunningly parodies the Kennedy assassination and the
Zappruder film. And you don't even realize that it's a
parody of that until about halfway through it, and then
you're like, wow, is this great.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
And it was the breakdown that Jerry does in his
apartment with the like the pointer that he extends and
closes to prove that they were the second Spinner. That's
flawless stuff right there. No, it's the Zapruder film. It's
amazing and it shows.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
The craziness of like the Jalen Ramsey incident that was
like the Zapruder film too, Like people showed every possible angle,
who gives.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
A frig and then if you weren't getting in at
that point, they put it right on your nose when
they just did the footage of it, and it looked
like the old Supruter film, like clipped footage of Kramer
going backwards back into the right.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
It was.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
It was just tremendous, the mimicry of the Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I wonder how the Kennedy's like seeing it, because I
have some history with them.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
We remember the Trifector brought to us by Danny's Peas
and Hogies, Pittsburgh's original oven baked hogy.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Since nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
That's Danny's en Route eighty eight and methyl Park tom
athletes today are so soft, they're so spoiled. An incident
in the NBA where Draymond Green missed a bunch of
buckets and rebonded his own miss a few times, and
the fan that courtside was calling him Angel Reese because
she does that all the time the me bond in
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Draymond Green, who's an ass, got all worked up and
got in the fan's face.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
When did athletes get so soft?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I have no idea. I'm watching it right now. It
was in New Orleans. I gotta give credit to this fan.
I mean he kind of stood up in Draymond's face,
right like he didn't, you know, turtle or go back
to his seat, and he's like, I'm sorry. He put
his arms up and put his chest out, like what
are you gonna do? Because that's a dream scenario, right mark,
a multimillion dollar athlete comes barreling towards you angry. I'm
(35:32):
just saying, please hit me, Please, for the love of God,
hit me, because this is a lawsuit that I cannot
wait to file. Lawyers are gonna be lining up for
this thing. But Draymond Green, I mean, yeah, the soft
nature of athletes, the soft nature of him, It's it's
very unbecoming in today's athletic world.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Which group of athletes? What sport do you think of
the softest. I think it's basketball. I think very exemplary
of how basketball players are. Like Lebron's had guys thrown
off for heckling him.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I mean, like you can't, like with hockey and football,
part of the game, with part of the game as
long as I'm deeply personal or you know, you.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Know, like family.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
But if you're just teching a guy for something like that,
for for rebinding missus, that's just funny.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Like when I was a kid, I sat behind.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
First base when the Powers were playing the Phillies when
Pete Rose played for the Phillies, and I me and
my friends heckled him the whole game.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Okay, not anything personal.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I mean, we didn't know he was a gambling junkie
and potentially fixing games back then.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But but just stuff you say when you're a kid.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Right at the end of the game, Pete made it
out at first to end the game and win it
for the Phillies, and he just turned and laughed at us,
and we started laughing too.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
It was great. It was give and take.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
We all know the power of heckling Mark. We know
about the quato Chan and what it did to the city.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Well, back then, athletes had a sense of humor and
they weren't so far removed from the fans. Because they
weren't so far removed from the money the fans made,
although Pete rose at that point. That was like that
first wave of athletes when baseball free agency hit in
the seventies that just started to make over the top
money by the standard.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Of the day.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I feel like there are athletes today that have a
great sense of humor too. I just feel like you
get to the top of that food chain. The megastars,
the Lebrons, the Draymonds, they're so consumed with their own
ego they don't allow themselves to have this. I bet
they were players on that Warriors team though Draymond teammates
that were like that was pretty funny calling him Ajores.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
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The Steelers still aren't very good. They just made a
few plays against a bad team. The game was fun well,
the second half was the two defensive touchdowns brought the fun,
the injury to Rogers to war and two that brought
the drama. Gainwell did just fine in place of Warren.
Maybe better, definitely better as a pass receiver. And I'm
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a Rudolph guy.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Mason.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Rudolph should have.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Been the starting quarterback for the Steelers from when Ben
retired until now, and I bet the Steelers for sure
would have done better. I mean, look at what I
talked about a minute ago twenty nineteen, Rudolph starting. Ben's hurt,
the elbow popped, You should have tanked, but you traded
for Micam Mason's rolling along at five and three, and
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you decide Duck should play because Tom was an idiot,
and he loses the last three games and the Steelers
don't make the playoffs, so you might get your wish.
I can see Tom Win being just dumb enough to
use Will Howard if Rudolph stumbles. Why does he not
respect Rudolph? I don't know, but he doesn't. Maybe it's
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because Rudolph supposed to be a trumper. I mean, hey,
if Aerosmith can kick out a finding member Joey Kramer
the drummer because he's a trumper, Tom Win could bench
Rudolph because he's a trumper. Oh and by the way,
good for James Pierre with the defensive touchdown. He deserved it.
He's been playing very good in a role that's now expanding.
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So what a bunch of fun Owen Baltimore barely beat Cleveland.
But Baltimore did beat Cleveland. Shador played, he sucked. I'm
Mark Madden, blah blah blah. Follow me on Twitter at
Mark Madden x. Right now, let's go to Tommy Radio.
Tom what was your take on the Steelers win and
how Mason Rudolph played upon entering the game at halftime.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I thought Mason Rudolph did exactly what we thought he
could do. He was and when we all thought he
would need to be called upon in that manner. Finish
off a game for Aaron Rodgers, potentially start a game
for Aaron Rodgers because he's injured, which I think we're
gonna see this Sunday. I'm leaning towards Rudolph is probably
gonna get the start against Chicago He's a very good backup,
a top tier backup when it comes to this league.
(02:18):
And I really just don't understand how people want to
even toy with the notion of Will Howard right now.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Which they are. I know they are in your six
and four and it's.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
A vocal to I think a small group of idiots,
But boy, they won't shut up.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You're six and four and in first place, still in
the AFC North, and you want to hand the keys
off to a rookie. Hell no, I want to hand
the keys off to an accomplished backup like Rudolph to
keep us afloat.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But are you just counting the possibility that Rudolph struggles
tom Win pulls another duck six years later and goes
to Will Howard.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I would hope he would learn from that mistake, I
would hope.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
So he's not learned from anything ever, Mike Doblin, come
on right, So there is a chance that if Rudolph
has a bad game, why not try Will Howard roll
him out there and see what the rookie can do.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Okay, sure I could see it half him.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
If him he's a six round pick, you don't do it.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I want to ride Rudolph for as long as you
have to until Rogers coffee.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
He has earned playing until Rogers comes back. At what
point do we acknowledge this guy's always come through when
he's been deputized and he deserves to play while Rogers
is injured.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
If Rogers told the Steelers to screw this offseason and
they were just stuck with Rudolph to start the year,
are they.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Five and five, like one game worse?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Maybe they're six and four still, who knows, But I
don't think they're that drastically worse.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, I think my point's well made about rod about
Rudolph being better less antsy in the pocket than Rogers.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Oh, without a question. I mean he's what is he
just thirty years old or just about to turn thirty
years old? Yeah, of course he's less antsy in the pocket,
and he is I think, willing to push the ball
downfield more because of that, because he's willing to take
a hit. He'll let And Rudolph's arm always had talent
like that was the thing that was the big draw
is he could sling it if you give him time
and if he has confidence to do so.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
My thing with Rogers is I think the last couple
of weeks, especially at LA he was making business decisions.
I think he's figured out this teammate't that good. He's
not gonna sit in there and take a big hit.
Maybe he'll feel different after he since out a bit
and rejuvenates.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I didn't even think of it from that angle.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
That could be the best thing going for the Steelers
if Rudolph can play these next couple of times.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I said that before the season. I said that when
they signed Rogers.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, if he could take over for this game against Chicago,
get the win, then play Buffalo. Not gonna say he
beat Buffalo, but you know, make it respectable looking, and
then Rogers can come back after a few weeks off
against the Ravens. I don't hate that scenario at all.
That might be the best case scenario for the Steelers.
What's your take on Ramsey's ejection. I understand him being upset,
but you've got to be smarter.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, I see, honestly both sides of the arguments. I
don't you just got to be smarter. You got to
spit on though.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
That's not a big deal. It's not it's.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Not a big deal. I think it is a little
bit of a big deal. I don't want to get
spit on.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Nobody wants to get spin on.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
People saying it's the most violent disgusting thing I could
think up, Like, does this I mean somebody defecating on
my front porch.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I I'd rather be spit on than deal with that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
There's much worse, violent, disgusting things that could be done
to your face even than getting spit on. But I
do think it's a little bit of a joke that
the refs didn't take both, right, isn't that usually what
happens there? We just grab both of these guys.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They just didn't see it. Sometimes you're so close to something, Tom,
you don't just.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Miss it, even just right in front of your face.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
If they would have taken both, though, that might have
been Jaylen Ramsey's best defensive player of the entire afternoon,
just grabbing Chase out of the game. So I think
that the refs should have grabbed them both, and we
would have looked at it from a different light. You
need Ramsey in the fourth quarter of a game, though,
you just do. There's no way of avoiding that argument.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well, by that time, they had shut down Chase, they
had shut Don Flacco. The game wasn't quite in hand
score wise, but I felt like they were well on
their way and they knew it and Cincinnati knew it.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It did still make you nervous though, that, oh, there's
still a fourth quarter to play here, and what if
this is the moment where Chase, you know, gets loose
over the top for a big sixty yard time.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
What do you think they did to shut down Chase.
I think Ramsey helped for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I think they played two safeties high and the corners
played more aggressive.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yes, And I think his physical presence at the safety
spot was a factor.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
He hit Chase hard early in that game and don't
know that he was there.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I loved the game Ramsey played, hence me wanting him
to stay in his conclusion.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And I think James Pierre, I think you have to
give a lot of credit to James Pierre. They didn't go,
you know, Porter take Higgins, Pierre take Chase. They were
flipped them back and forth for the most part of
the game. But I think Pierre played an outstanding game
when he did find himself on Chase, and he deserves
to be the starting outside corner.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Now you know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Now that I've said getting spit on is no big deal,
Somebody's gonna spit on me at one of my appearances,
and then you know what I'll do, tom I'll hit
him in the head with a hammer because I ain't
got no team.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
There's no fourth quarter for you to stay in.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Right, exactly. I don't have to cover. I don't have
to help cover Jamar. They're not kicking you out of
your viewing party. They'll throw you a parade for doing that.
To somebody who does that to you.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, I'd just assume it not happened. But I just
don't see it. Like I said, it's not not battery acid.
You gotta like Dugger. I mean, normally Tom Win and
his prattle about the is just nonsense. But he does
have stability at safety now, and I think Dougger is
maybe even a bigger reason than Jayalen Ramsey.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, but it is hard for me to get past
the fact that you traded away from stability at the
safety position by moving on from Minka Fitzpatrick, and then
you almost had to fix your own problem.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That you know what, what what makes me angry about
about that?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And you're right, but they're not getting anything out of
John US Smith, who should have made a difference maker
in the trade.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That would make me feel a lot better about it
for sure. And to be fair, O Ramsey hasn't had
a pick in a while, but Douger has a pick
six yesterday. So you're getting the splash from the safety
playing good though, right, But you're saying he didn't what
he had to cover chase Man up, but he just
can't do that no more. The splash just dried up
completely with Minca. So yeah, it was great that he was,
you know, keeping things stable as far as that is concerned.
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But you need splash from that position now, and you're
getting it from Dougger and I think you'll get it
from Ramsey soon too.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I don't like the offensive line. I think it's going backwards.
I think both quarterbacks are under too much press yesterday.
But I gotta say one thing. Darnell Washington just rumbling, stumbling, bumbling.
He's sheer bulk baby. I mean, I still don't think
he's the best tight end on the team, But what
they do get out of him, I mean, Farmouth can't
do that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
JOHNU.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Smith can't do that. Then again, we don't know because
I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
There were a couple series where those guys didn't play
at all, neither of them.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I don't think he's the best tight end on the
team either, but it's under in love with him though, Tom.
But I think it's undeniable that that wrinkle is so valuable.
They're in love with them.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's hard not to be when you see that play.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
They use the extra offensive line, but I think a
dozen times, which is actually a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Oh the jump up pet and they're in thirteen personnel
more than any team in the NFL by a wide margin.
Matt usually puts that in most of his stat packs know.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
It's funny though, when they're in thirteen, Washington doesn't play.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
He comes off the field for that, and with Anderson
in there as the tackle eligible John neu Smith is
so disappointing.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I mean, you want to.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Talk about somebody that was supposed to stand on him.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You don't think, so he's hardly targeted. They make a.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Million excuses for DK.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Why not for John Hu I don't know, And honestly,
they just have no rhyme or reason with the usage
of their players.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Same thing with the running back position.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Although they were kind of proven right for playing game
well as much as they have in this past game.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, Gain was more of a pass receiver than a runner.
I feel bad for Warrant because he was on a
roll when he got hurt. One thing, there were so
many things in this game to laugh at though, top
like Orlando bron Junior for Baltimore, he commits movement every
single snap. He's going back into his pass blocking stance
like a split second before the ball snap, but every time.
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And also the roughing the passers under the context.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Of the rules, they were all correct.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I just hate the rules.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And then DK with the opis, I mean they were a.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Little bit sketchy.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
The pick wasn't the pick was OPI, but the one
where he pushed off that was nothing most receivers don't do.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
DK commits OPI almost every snap and they're looking for it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, I think I agree with you on that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
The roughing the passers, You're absolutely right about it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Like TJ.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Watt used the force of his body to slam Flacco
into the ground and there's nothing he can really do
to avoid that, but it is against the rule. And
then whoever it was for the Bengals went low on Rogers.
I'm kind of more of a fan of avoiding the
you know, going low on a quarterback. I think that
can help keep quarterbacks in the game. And you want
to keep starting quarterbacks in the game if you're the NFL.
But the stuff with like Watt landing on the quarterback,
(10:26):
I mean, how do you avoid that? You have to
fix that rule. That's tom Mark boy. We got a
lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I mean, the opis the roughing the passers, the spitting
Mason in the game, shad door, screw it up.
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I got three passing touchdowns and three rushing touchdowns in
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first time. He's a unicorn right now. He's the best
quarterback in the league, not Lamar, not Mahomes. Especially with
Kansas City losing to Denver, Kansas City ain't gonna make
the playoffs. I don't hate that Steelers win for yesterday.
(12:13):
I don't love it, but I don't hate it either.
It's just a win. It's against Cincinnati. I know you
lost to them earlier in the year. I know Flacco
ripped you apart. Then you should have won then. Winning
now it's pedestrian. But if you're happy, I'm happy. Cleveland
almost beat Baltimore, almost but didn't. Chador played and he sucks.
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I'll talk more about that at length later. So the
Steelers still lead the AFC North by one game. Baltimore
is five and five, has won four in a row,
figuring out ways to win when it's tight, which is
to their favor. Steelers at Baltimore December seventh, a day
that will live in infamy. Kansas City lost to Denver
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and are now three losses back in the AFE West.
Kansas City's won that division for a decade, but not
no more. In fact, right now, the Chiefs are out
of the playoffs. They're gassed. They're not gonna make it.
I told you so before the season even started. Penguins
got three points out of four against Nashville and Sweden
and should have got all four. Blew a late lead
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on Friday and lost in overtime. But the Penguins played
a smart game on Sunday. They got the puck in
deep and let Nashville suck like Nashville does three zero
end to one. Managed to lead. Some stupid by the Penguins,
not too much. PK has been great empty net goal
to wrap it up. Drink some glog on the flight home.
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That's a good trip to Sweden. And now off till
Minnesota gets here on Friday. I should have gone. I
should have gone to see the Abba Museum. Anyway, Morishoff
got his first win and his first shutout yesterday, and
that's good. But he didn't have to do a lot
twenty one saves. It's a win, and the Penguins needed one.
Kindle back at center by the way him once Did's
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was worth a try, but it just didn't work. Let's
talk some more Steelers now with Tommy Radio. Tom the
spinning thing. It's catching fire on Twitter. It's like, what
if he spin on you? Well, if I'm Ramsey, I
finish winning the game, because that's what matters.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, I know you think that way, but I'm right
about this period. It would be so hard for.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Me to put myself in those shoes and to not,
you know, at least push him back, at least shove
him back respond in some way.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You know what I do. You know what I'd have done.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'd have wait until the last Cincinnati series when the
Hayes in the barn and taken a big cheap.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Shot like in the replacements, like Clifford Franklin right at
the end of the What doesn't he just punch the
guy right at the snap or no, I'm thinking of
the longest yard when they go on the kickoff and
they just go and obliterate the guards in the A. Yeah,
when they kick off the opening kickoff and they're like
drop kicking them down the field.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That's what he should have done.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I would have said that you could always get one
thing that's been lost on a lot of today's athletes.
You can get retribution later, like revenge a dish best
serf cold, and the dish surf smarter.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's a very good point. I will definitely see to
that point. He should have waited till later and then
gotten his revere.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Like say he lines up Manda Man on the last
Syerari Cincinnati's hopelessly out of the game, yes, and Ramsey
just punches him in the nuts. I'd have been all
for that. I didn't glamorize that glorified it.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I just celebrated because the big hang up that you
have with this is you lost arguably your best defensive
player for an entire quarter of a football.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Got to win the game that comes first.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Now, do you think you lose him for longer than
a game?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Do you think Ramsey is potentially going to get suspended
because he threw a punch and there is precedent.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I think they will take into a content he got
spat on.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You know what, though, if they suspend Chase, it's tough
to not suspend Ramsey.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I bet they both get a game.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I think they have to suspend Chase too, right, because
they suspended Jalen Carter at the beginning. Remember they suspended
him quote unquote because they kicked him out before the opener.
They kicked him out the first play. Yeah, so they
gave him like time served. They're like, that was his suspension.
He was suspended in the game. That's why I think
they're going to have to give it to Chase at
least one game.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
What what did you think of that win in general? Tom,
I'm not sure that win was his convincing as to score.
It was a one score game late and I'm not
sure the Steelers are a good six and four. I'm
not sure the Steelers are very good still.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I just don't know if I found out anything about
them with this win. You know, I found out that
Rudolph is a very good backup and that they're resilient
when he came into the game. But like, the defense
got a ton of splash, and more so than they
have all year because they got two defensive scores. But
like when the defense gets splashed, the team wins. Like
I knew that already.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Well, I love Duggar. I mean, he's played very well.
The pick sixtal. He noted he's a physical force, which
is something they needed back there. He's a good Connor
point to Ramsey, the other safety. When they have Deshaun
Elliott back, they'll have an embarrassment of riches. They'll be
able to really do some different things with Nickel and
Dime that I think will serve them well. But I
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got to give a lot of credit to James Pierre.
He got the pick six as well, and he's looked
brilliant these last two weeks. Now, I will say and
Brandon Eckles had a good game two. But I will
say you when a backup has a few good games
in a row, you can't contin he'll keep doing it.
Although Eccles, who did play good then played bad, did
regroup yesterday.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah, but I think it's because Echol's got to go
back to kind of his role, right, That's truck backrole
that he's supposed to be, and because true Pierre usurped
him and was playing on the outside a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I feel what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I mean, Pierre is probably not going to be a
long term answer, but I would keep putting him out
there in that spot, even if Slagh clears concussion protocol.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I would go Pierre first for as long as it works.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Joe Lion's going backwards?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Ain't it going backwards?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The big package duely noted well.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I thought I thought Rogers and Rudolph were both under
too much pressure going.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Backwards, probably with Proderick Jones.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I think Fatana is pretty good though, like I feel
like Fetano and a lot of people are pointing out
that he's playing really well.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well. He's in the fact though, rookie after being hurt
all of last year, and he has his ups and downs.
But I think he's moving in the right direction. I
don't think Jones is. But the problem is they ruined Jones.
He should have been left tackle from day one. And
if I say that too much, it's not because it's wrong,
it's because it's right.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Now, are you in a spot where you need a
left tackle when you look forward with this team, you know,
as early as next year, and that's terrible to be.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And when you've we'll find out what they think if
they don't pick up the fifty year option on his contract,
if they will decide, I don't think they will either.
But boy, what an indictment that is of them. We're
trading up and failing to develop.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
No question, it's an indictment on their drafting ability, and
their drafting ability should come under the fire.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
They don't draft.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Think this organization has the Vegas clue of what it's doing,
and yet it's still how stumbles the records like six
and four.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Right now, I don't understand it either.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
It has to be a combination of the incompetence of
other NFL franchises meeting them too, right Like, it's not
like all these other franchises are run perfectly.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It ain't a league full of Einstein's. I think it's
safe to say what kind of challenge will Chicago post
next week? Just just a quick look ahead, there's seven
and three, just beat Minnesota, and Minnesota made a mistake
in quarterback understandably, you know, going with McCarthy the kid.
They should have franchised Arnold, and I think they'll live
and learn from that. Maybe Rogers is their quarterback now
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next year, or maybe Mason Rudolph. But I'm not sure
what to think of Chicago or where Caleb Williams is at.
I'm sure he's gonna be a good quarterback, and some
weeks he is. Most weeks he is, some weeks not
so much.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I think Ben Johnson's a really good coach. I think
they nailed it. I think they nailed it with him.
I think he's clearly the OC as well as head coach. Yeah,
but I think he's making good head coaching decisions too.
I think the Bears are really fake though as far
as leading the NFC North is concerned, they have.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
No fake faker than the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
At six and four, I think these two teams are
pretty comparent.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I mean, the Bears are seven and three, tom in
a really tough division.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, but you're leading a really tough division.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Okay, but here they're wins Cowboys, Raiders, Commander, Saints, Bengals, Giants, Vikings.
None of that jumps out of the page to you.
They lost fifty two to twenty one to the Lions earlier.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, but the Steelers beat New England in Indy because
New England and into the Indy fed up.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I mean, I mean, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I think these are even teams, but some, but some
big wins unquote are fool's goal. I think these are
very even teams.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
And the Bears defense this is very similar to the Steelers,
where they stink and give up a lot of yardage,
but they take the ball away a ton.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It was great that Mason came in because at least
it livened up the game yesterday.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That game was a doll first half.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
So many Steelers games are just so boring and dull,
and honestly, that's why I think it's hard for me
to get excited about this game. The first half offense
just looks so against one of the worst defenses in
league history. I needed the offense with Rogers to look
good for a change, and it didn't other than the
first drive.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
When I was at Carson's Tavern and Scott Deale yesterday
for my viewing party, you know what I said at
halftime to lead off my halftime talk, Well, that's ninety
minutes of our lives. We'll never get back. And I've
had to say that more often than not with Steeler
games this year. I couldn't eat their famous cheddar Chiefs
pizza Tom because I want to waken one eighty know
what I could eat though they had a buffet in
the in the opposite room. The dining room made to
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order omlets, pinach, mushroom, Jalapano's bell peppers not bell peppers?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
What's the banana ring peppers? Oh? Tomato?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Just unbelievable. So thanks to everyone out there at Carson.
I got a river Hus viewing party this coming Saturday,
tom for the usl L Championship game. I'll talk about
that a little bit later. River Hus in the final
Tom three playoff games. They scored one goal and they're
in the final, which shows you that soccer is not
a sport for playoffs.
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Speaker 3 (21:26):
We're gonna talk a whole lot of Steelers all day long.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
But right now on the pregame show brought to you
by Shandorovich, Shandrovich and Fisherman, I want to talk about
it bout Pitt because Pitt cattlamb basted by Notre Dame
at Akraschuur on Saturday thirty seven to fifteen, and it
wasn't even that close.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Pitt's offense didn't get a touchdown till garbage time.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
In fact, Nardoozy, who said the game didn't matter, called
a timeout with five seconds left to get the garbage
time touchdown, which shows what a petty jackass he is.
I'm gonna talk a lot more about him later, but
I think the I should be fired. I think he's
a terrible representative for Pitt. And that's saying a lot
because I've always seen Pitt is kind of a high
school with Ashtrace not a lot better. But Pitt embarrassed
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itself in front of a sellout and Aaron Donald and
Tony Dorr said, who ripped no tore name apart fifty
years to the very day, over three hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
He's Pitt's best player ever.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And Tony Dor said, had to see that in a
week where the coach said the game wasn't that important.
Heinschel was terrible, Holstein through the only touchdown. Well, Heinschel
threw a touchdown, but it was to Notre Dame. Maybe
He's not the next Marino, just like Holstein isn't. Just
like Pikett wasn't. I mean, no, tore Name got two
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touchdowns in ten seconds. That sounds like a Motley Cruz song.
Pitt wasn't competitive, got badly manhandled in the trenches, and
now seems poised for its annual late season collapse under Nardoozi.
Pitt is clearly a class legit teams, just like the
ACC is a class below legit conferences. It was a
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disappointing afternoon. We all hope to see better, and Desmond
Reid got hurt. On top of everything, Tom, you're a
pit guy. You went to the game. What was the
atmosphere like before the game?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Oh, the atmosphere was awesome, I mean yeah, and the
build up was perfect, and then the team just went
out there and laid a complete egg.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It was so embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
You mentioned a couple of the pick greats that were back,
but Darryl Reeves was there too, Hugh Green was on
the field because of Aaron Donald going up in the rafters.
I mean, it was just the perfect kind of pit
game until the game actually started to be played. The
thing that you said about the trenches was the most
obvious thing. Yeah, I mean Notre Dame just on the
defensive side of the ball, were just pushing stronger, better
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a single time that tomably on both sides of the trenches.
I thought, Tom, that team could win the national championship.
I think that that is very clear. They have arguably
the best player in the country with Jeremiah Love, who,
by the way, that spin move, Oh my god, he's
currently better than any Steeler running back right now on
the roster.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Jeremiah I Love's freak of nature, no question.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
But that's the difference between a pit and no question, Pitt.
Don't get a guy like that.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
No, And you know what, you got to be the
team that gets a pick six, which ironically Pitt did
later in the game, But you got to be the
team that gets a pick six early to pull an
up set like that. And Mark, I don't know if
you watched the beginning of the game, Pitt's first drive,
they're moving the ball, they're getting some momentum. They try
the big shot. Number five just drops it right through
his hands. Would have been on the doorstep of the
Notre Dame end zone. At that point, you just kind
(24:27):
of get deflated and it all goes downhill.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Well, it was easy to get deflated after the coach
said the game one.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Day doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, that pick six was game over, two touchdowns and
ten seconds. Now does that loss at all shake your
faith in hein Schilick quarterback? Or did it just remind
us that he's a true freshman?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, I didn't shake my faith. People were getting way
too ridiculous when it came.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
No, I don't tell you hate. I think he's gonna go. Still.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
I think there's still not a good chance that pick
keeps him. I still think people are going to heavily
come after him in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Do you think the fact that they gave Holstein a
million bucks and he turned out to be that good
will deter Pitt for making a similar offer to Heinschel.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I think there's a chance it will. But it can't
allow that to They can't allow that to happen because
this is the game now, right. You gotta pay money
for quarterbacks. You can't worry about a bad deal like
the pirates so often do, because it's a waste of money.
You can't view it through that. Lens Pitt just can't
help it. Look foolish Tom like, nope, Like the replayover
turns to Pitt touchdown. Pitt then gets a pick six immediately,
(25:24):
but Notre Dame gets a pick two on the two
point conversion. Just an excrements show and Donald's there and Dorset,
my god, and then the time out with five seconds
left to get a meaningless touchdown, so petty, like, I
can I can go go through that game and find
like five or six embarrassing moments, Yes, and you could
(25:45):
overlook them except for what Nardoozy said. What Nardoozy said
about the game not being important seemed a harbinger for
the way it turned out. Yeah, I don't think we
would have been focusing on the time out late in
the game if he didn't say that at the beginning
of the week.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And I also think we.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Wouldn't have been hammering him and the team for losing
like they did to a team the caliber of Notre
Dame if he didn't set the table by saying this
is basically an exhibition game.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Who really cares what happens when we go out? He's
just a freakin' a hole. I hate him. I hate him.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
There's very few instances where because I don't believe in
swearing on the air. I think it shows your lack
of intellect. But I wish I could call him an
fing a hole and not bleep myself. I just I
there's not enough bleeps to to block out on the air.
The contempt I have for that guy, I always have
(26:33):
that he just doesn't get it, and he never has.
When they lay eggs against West Virginia, it's the same
kind of talk. He's like, well, that's not a conference game,
it doesn't really matter. It matters everything. He thinks he's
in East Lands and he thinks he's great ten. He
kind of looks down at even Pitt like about the ACC.
If you would have said to the average pit fan,
you're gonna go one and one in the last two games,
(26:53):
not being the ACC final, but beat Notre Dame a
home in front of Tony dor Set, they would have
picked beating Notre Dame at home and a Tony dor
Set mark.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I would trade all three of those games, lose to
Notre Dame Georgia Tech in Miami, just to go back
and beat freaking West Virginia and Morgantown.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
That's all I really cared about this year, and.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
That's the one thing that can't get erased. Now, where
does pitch Sason go from here?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Tom, Because now it's at Georgia Tech and at home
against Miami, A two ranked teams. But again, they're good
only within the context of the ACC Correct. This isn't
the count Georgia Tech should have lost this week.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I agreed.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
This is not the caliber of team that Notre Dame is,
So I don't think Pitt's going to get completely bullied
off the field in either game. Although Miami did beat
Notre Dame in Week one of the season, but that
might have been just a Week one fluke kind of thing.
I think they'll give Georgia Tech a good fight this weekend.
I feel like they'll go down there and lose, though,
and then they'll end up losing to Miami to just
to complete the pat and ardoozy prophecy of collapsing and
(27:47):
finishing seven to five.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I saw the remake of The Running Man. It was
very good, better than the original and more faithful to
the novel by Stephen King. I know the people out
there don't read, but I do, and again, I think
it benefited by sticking closer to the plot of the
novel way over the top with violence and blood and action,
but still very good. Glenn Powell, who's kind of the
(28:11):
flavored du jour among actors. He was this angry guy.
Josh Brolin was a great heel, and he was a
great heel because he acted like a real TV executive,
because they're all heels.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Radio two.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I love the idea of a dystopian America, which we're not.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Far from, No, we are not. Would you participate in
The Running Man if you could, or would you be
the host?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I couldn't even be the Walking Man. I would be
the host.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
The host was great. And you said they split the
character right, Like the host wasn't the main.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I forget the actor's name, but he was.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Bobby t was the host, Like yeah, you know, like
like they split the Richard Dawson character in half and
Josh brol and they even called him Killian like like
Dawson's character in the original. But it was good because
you know what, it made me realize the first Running
Man wasn't very good. It was just a vehicle for
Schwartz Nigger to be witty and toss out one liners
(29:02):
in a situation that didn't call for Witt and one liners.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Glenn Powell played the character like you would.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Play if you were literally running for your life, and
I can't wait to see I can't wait to see it.
I'm definitely going to Michael Sarah though, and the trailer
stole the show for me, so I'm sure he's great
in the movie.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
He is real good. H William H.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Macy in a very short role appearance. Yeah, but it's
really good.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Uh. Sarah's the main character, right, Michael Sarah?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
No, no, he They don't forget the guys.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
On the run, okay, so there's people he's meeting throughout
the movie. Yeah, but Sarah's in on trying to help him, okay.
And and does is Macy or is Macy an enemy?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Macy also went on but both do not prosper by
the attempt uh?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I also UH on Cable.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I also rewatched because I saw it on one of
my transatlantic flights. I also watched the remake of Roadhouse
with Jake Gillen Hollis Dalton deceptively very good. A different take,
but but on a I mean, the original Roadhouse with
Swayzey is just so ingrained into people's minds and mine too,
the one with Chillenholme might actually be a better movie.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Better movie wasn't The Hang Up for You? Though, McGregor
as the heel.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Way over act it's too bad, way over.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I should have gone a real actor for that.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Like when I say he was over the top, I
mean he was over the top being over the top.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Get an accomplished actor in there.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I mean, Josh Brolin is one of the greatest actors
we have going to play the heel in The Running Man,
that's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Early the Dalton character is a little more quirky.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Early on, seven guys show up to beat up Dalton,
and Dalton says to the one guy goes, well, you
know I'm a former Ultimate Fighter. You're not gonna kick
my ass. He goes, no, We're all gonna kick your ass.
He goes, oh, seven of you. Well that's not even fair.
It's it's like again there's humor where you wouldn't look
for youmor and with Connor McGregor unintentionally so, but it's
(30:54):
a real good movie.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Which Dalton kicks more ass? The Swayze or the Jillen
Hawkway the swayzey one?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Which Running Man six? More ass Swartzenegger or Powell. Oh,
it's a tough one there, Schwartznigger shorts. Snigger is more physical.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Powell's smarter, okay, Pow and like and like there's stuff
in in the in this Running Man, like you have
to send in tapes every day that they broadcast, but
they doctor the tapes to turn you into a heel.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You know. There's like it like so it chourage the
country to kill you.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Really the movie is an indictment of media, as is
this show one oh five ninety X.
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Speaker 1 (31:57):
The Pittsburgh Riverhounds made the USL Championship game beat Rhode
Island on Saturday at High Mark at Station Square one nil.
Of course, river Huns got to the league final, scoring
one goal in three games, which is why soccer probably
shouldn't have a playoff, but you got to love those
penalty kicks even though they weren't needed. On Saturday, Robbie
Martin scored the only goal, a great cut and strike.
(32:21):
The Upper Saint Clair Kid totally packed sixty seven hundred
plus beyond the sellout, great atmosphere, really big time. So
congrats to my buddy Tuffy Shallenberger, the owner and the
river Hounds. The USL Final is at Tulsa on Saturday
at noon.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
There's going to be a viewing party. I'll smarten you
up on that later in the week.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Tulsa.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I like the women there just spelled the city backwards. Tom,
what do we got for the trifecta?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
For today's trifecta, Mark, I have three people that were
memorably spit on in honor of Jalen Ramsey being spit
on by Jamar Chase in honor of great Number three
for me is the gus Bus plus several others. The
movie The bench Warmers at the hands of Sammy the Sprinkler.
You remember Sammy the Sprinkler and the bench warm.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
That was intentional spitting. He just had he just had.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
A speech for a lift. He's still getting the spit
on though, like I just did.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Advertly, it seemed to develop.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Number two is Jonah Hill's character set at the beginning
of the movie Super Bad, when the bully just hawks
a mean lugi right on his shirt after saying he's
not invited to his party at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And he has just stand there and he kay stands there.
He's in fact, I think he says thank.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
You, but he got revenge by dating Emma stone By
movies end yes correct.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Number one, though, of course, is Kramer and Newman By.
They thought Keith Hernandez, but it turned out to be
Roger McDowell.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
That is one of the best sine fold episodes ever
because it's so cunningly parodies the Kennedy assassination and the
Zappruder film. And you don't even realize that it's a
parody of that until about halfway through it, and then
you're like, wow, is this great.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
And it was the breakdown that Jerry does in his
apartment with the like the pointer that he extends and
closes to prove that they were the second Spinner. That's
flawless stuff right there. No, it's the Zapruder film. It's
amazing and it shows.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
The craziness of like the Jalen Ramsey incident that was
like the Zapruder film too, Like people showed every possible angle,
who gives.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
A frig and then if you weren't getting in at
that point, they put it right on your nose when
they just did the footage of it, and it looked
like the old Supruter film, like clipped footage of Kramer
going backwards back into the right.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
It was.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
It was just tremendous, the mimicry of the Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I wonder how the Kennedy's like seeing it, because I
have some history with them.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
We remember the Trifector brought to us by Danny's Peas
and Hogies, Pittsburgh's original oven baked hogy.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
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Speaker 1 (34:42):
That's Danny's en Route eighty eight and methyl Park tom
athletes today are so soft, they're so spoiled. An incident
in the NBA where Draymond Green missed a bunch of
buckets and rebonded his own miss a few times, and
the fan that courtside was calling him Angel Reese because
she does that all the time the me bond in
(35:06):
Draymond Green, who's an ass, got all worked up and
got in the fan's face.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
When did athletes get so soft?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I have no idea. I'm watching it right now. It
was in New Orleans. I gotta give credit to this fan.
I mean he kind of stood up in Draymond's face,
right like he didn't, you know, turtle or go back
to his seat, and he's like, I'm sorry. He put
his arms up and put his chest out, like what
are you gonna do? Because that's a dream scenario, right mark,
a multimillion dollar athlete comes barreling towards you angry. I'm
(35:32):
just saying, please hit me, Please, for the love of God,
hit me, because this is a lawsuit that I cannot
wait to file. Lawyers are gonna be lining up for
this thing. But Draymond Green, I mean, yeah, the soft
nature of athletes, the soft nature of him, It's it's
very unbecoming in today's athletic world.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Which group of athletes? What sport do you think of
the softest. I think it's basketball. I think very exemplary
of how basketball players are. Like Lebron's had guys thrown
off for heckling him.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I mean, like you can't, like with hockey and football,
part of the game, with part of the game as
long as I'm deeply personal or you know, you.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Know, like family.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
But if you're just teching a guy for something like that,
for for rebinding missus, that's just funny.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Like when I was a kid, I sat behind.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
First base when the Powers were playing the Phillies when
Pete Rose played for the Phillies, and I me and
my friends heckled him the whole game.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Okay, not anything personal.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I mean, we didn't know he was a gambling junkie
and potentially fixing games back then.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But but just stuff you say when you're a kid.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Right at the end of the game, Pete made it
out at first to end the game and win it
for the Phillies, and he just turned and laughed at us,
and we started laughing too.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
It was great. It was give and take.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
We all know the power of heckling Mark. We know
about the quato Chan and what it did to the city.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Well, back then, athletes had a sense of humor and
they weren't so far removed from the fans. Because they
weren't so far removed from the money the fans made,
although Pete rose at that point. That was like that
first wave of athletes when baseball free agency hit in
the seventies that just started to make over the top
money by the standard.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Of the day.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I feel like there are athletes today that have a
great sense of humor too. I just feel like you
get to the top of that food chain. The megastars,
the Lebrons, the Draymonds, they're so consumed with their own
ego they don't allow themselves to have this. I bet
they were players on that Warriors team though Draymond teammates
that were like that was pretty funny calling him Ajores.
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