September 11, 2024 • 21 mins
We love having Katy Perry on the show! She discusses her new album, 143, meditation, and a certain viral photo of her husband Orlando Bloom.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hit it.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Let's go live from the Mercedes Benz interview lounge.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Here she is a standing ovulation for Katie Perry.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Turning the lights down, turning the lights down?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
What are you doing? She's messing with.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
You.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
What are you doing turning down my light? My lighting
to be that way? Listen.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
We try to do that every day and our digital
team comes in.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Were lied by the way.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Are you smell good? L cool J was here earlier?
He smell good to everyone?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Smells good today, Smell good, look good, make love.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Good to Are we were leaving the lights down? She
walks in herself the entire house.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
No, I'm you know.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I know you can't tell, but I will be forty
in a month, and I don't need to. This is
my gum. I'm gonna chew it later.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Are your hands clean?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Who cares? Germs are good for the microbiomes? Hi knew
YUK and other places.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Don't start about this. I'm almost forty thing, you know,
I just turned sixty.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I can't tell.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
At all, But that didn't sound convincing, Katie.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I think I think we both are in love with
our doctors, aren't we?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Andre vitamins. Oh, come on, yes, four, Thank you very much.
You're welcome. You know what I do.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I do a lot of swimming you great, thanks, and
a lot of working out and a lot of rehearsing
for this Vanguard Ward.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, so what are you doing? Can you tell us
what you're doing on stage during the Vanguardward?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I am shoving so many songs into over ten minutes. Okay, yes,
and I'm and I'm flying, and I'm there's drones, there's
a mountain I have to climb.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Is there a magician in a bouncy house?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm the magician, babe.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I talked about the last time we saw each other.
It was on a ship.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And okay, I'll tell you the godmother Cheat Yeah you
were Cheat Codes was doing a set in their big
dance hall or whatever. Do you remember this? And our
friends we all got together and I think we did
some chocolate mushrooms or something. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Wait, I thought this was live.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
We're dancing. Okay, we were dancing. Go there, We're dancing
your asses off and this this figure comes out looks
like to you and a bomber in a in a hoodie.
I went, I bet that's Katie and it was. And
we danced a couple of dances.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, if there's a rave, I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's on a ship, so random.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know. I like to pop up. I like to dance.
Didn't you hear that with the last song that you
just played?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I love that song.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Do you like it?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah? It's fun and we need more fun in our lives. Yes,
she just wrote, just played lifetime. So Nate's writing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Thanks Nate case.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
He forgot so sweet? Would you like to put your
gum here? No, you just played this song. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's very important today. Hey so one four three?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yes, I love you too.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Do we have to wait? Can we just play some
of it? Why do they gotta be there?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I mean your elvis freaking duran.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So I know they didn't give it to me because
they because I do. We had lawsuits in the past
when I played things early.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Oh yeah, oh really that was back in the day
when everything was so analog.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
No was recent.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Well, those people are too offended. You are right, but
you know they're too precious. It's just pop music. Touch
grass everyone she's freaking was.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Can I show the latest clickbait? That just came over
my TMZ. Have you seen this? Literally, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
No, it's you.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Taking a photo with Kim Kardashian and Orlando is staring
at her butt. Wait, hold on, I mean, how could
you not?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
She's got I approve.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Meanwhile, Orlando and Katie also hit the red carpet where
the couple post for pictures. The images captured Orlando with
this hand right above Katie's but.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Their places. Sorry to tell you, my daughter is four.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
There is that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So wait, what's the controversy.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
There is no controversy. My whole point count that click.
Do you need more controversy?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Oh? Just seventeen years? Oh please, seventeen years.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I can tell you I sent you. I sent her
a text. I don't know if you were offended or not.
Do you remember this? Hold on?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Which one should I be?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Now? I got to find it? Kate, Kate, what do
I have? Have you listened to her?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Kate kp Maybe Katy with an ID after freaking fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I was listening to a Woman's World and I sent you.
I sent you a text, and I said, I love
it so much. I'm spotting my blouse. I'm lactating and
you and what.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Did I say? I was the best text I had received.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I think you said you're a little offended.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
No, the best response I've received. It was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I mean, if someone's music makes someone spot their blouse.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Especially you, my lactating love. I don't know you lactated.
I'm so proud of you. You must be really in
touch with your feminine devine.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I am as much as I can.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm just thinking how insane it is, how ole we
really have known you. I remember doing an interview with
you when I was pregnant with one of my kids.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Are they in college at nineteen?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And look he's going to college.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
He's in the UK in college. That one.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And they were in your belly.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
They were in my belly.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Time is a thief and it gives faster.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
We turned off those overheads.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You look awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You look great.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Talk about the excitement of this album.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I'm so excited because it's an album I always wanted
to make. It's somewhat of a dance album. It's like
three different parts, somewhat rhythmic, somewhat quintessential MOI. And then
there's that dance type of flavor like Lifetimes.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
And there's another song called Crush.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And then there's a song feature twenty one Savage that's
coming that's called Gimme, Gimme and it's kind of dark
Horse esque.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So there's so.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Many flavors to come, and it's a party and everyone's invited,
and it's the fall. It's where you know, the fault
During the fall, sometimes the seasonal sads come. So I
wanted to give a little serotonut.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We need it always and you always deliver.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That electioneer fall.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Who knows what could happen? The world is Come on, guys.
The world is a crazy place, is it not.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's a beautiful place. You just have to find the good.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well look, well get what the good?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
The good and everyone and everything. There's a positive and
a negative to everything, so find the positive.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
But what happens when you find yourself and this is
just general. You find yourself like, oh my god, I'm
in the debt right now? What do you do yourself?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Reach out to a friend, you hold on to your family,
and you try and communicate.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Best as possible.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That's hard, and you look for tools. Tools have gotten
me through everything. Quieting all the noise, finding the stillness,
finding that center, that balance. I mean for seventeen years
from the moment I first started, people like one hit
Wonder and I was like, okay, well, it's just like
when they say she's pregnant.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well I'm not. I'm just it's Taco Bell. So I
just keep on keeping on.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Was any of this from I read that you and
Orlando went through the Hoffmann process? Yes, I've read so
much about it. Which parts of that were the most
life changing or altering? Because I read that you said
it changed your entire life. You would be dead without it?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I wouldn't be on this planet
without it.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It was incredible. Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Orlando went first, and he came back, and then I
broke up with him because he wouldn't play into any
my old games. I was a real game player, pushing pool,
pushing pull, Cat and Mouse capt'n Mouse. And then he
kind of changed all of his patterns and I was like, Ugh,
this is boring.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Let's go, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And then I had a really tough year and I
decided to go because I didn't have very minute options left.
And it changed my life and it rewired the way
I think about myself. You know, like there's two voices
in your head. They call it two wolves, which wolful
you choose? Are you going to choose the negative or
the positive? And so it really quieted that negative and
I think, I don't know, I'm gonna paraphrase this.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I heard this.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
We have like over ninety thousand thoughts every single day,
and like seventy thousand of them are negative. So you
really have to keep that under control. And someone is
gonna catch that and tell me what it actually is.
But it's really those types of numbers.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
But do they teach you like how to do that,
how to quiet it all?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yes, little course, there's all kinds of different exercises. It's
some are physical, some are writing, some are just nature connected.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It's wonderful. It's not for the faint of heart. But
you know, everything great, isn't.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah. As a mother, you know, I know you have
to push through, baby, Yes, you keep on ticking, gotta.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Push through, and then your blessing comes.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And then we go through these moments in our lives
and during them you're like, God, this sucks. But when
you're out of here, like, well, thank God that happened
to me.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Peaks and valleys. Where do you sow the seeds in
the valleys in the valleys? Where do you enjoy the
fruit in the peaks.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I've been known to eat in the valley from.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Time to well.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But you said, okay, so one, you said, this is
the album.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Three that means I love you in like a digital language.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It was a number that I started receiving when I
was going through a really tough time. The angels, the angels,
the guides, your highest self, whatever you believe in, something
other than your self, you narcissists. Sorry, let's hope at
least science you could believe in science. I mean, what
it takes to create a flower is pretty magical.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But there's always a little magic everywhere, sir, in with
the science, I do believe.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, the science is the magic.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But you said this is the album you always wanted
to make.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
One of them.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I always have a little bit of a kind of
a list in my head of the next ten years
and the things that I would like to accomplish, and
this was in my immediate kind of vision.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You'll beat the MTV mid Video Music Words tomorrow night,
receiving your Vanguard Award. We had ll cool j In earlier.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, we're sharing my dressing room.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You should hello.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I mean not that kind where there's a living room
that divides us all dam but not think can keep
us away.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
He's a really cool guy, you know what. I love said.
He's very positive. He's like this album, which is out now.
He said, I needed to release this to show everyone
that I'm in my fortieth year in hip hop. I
want to show everyone I can still do it. What
is your message? My message is love is love?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Okay, that's it.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
It's I think, you know, for everything I was always
looking for. When I had my daughter, I received all
that love that I was looking for. And when the
Beatles said all you need is love, I thought it
was the biggest cliche and then I got to experience
that profoundly.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And I was like, oh my gosh, they weren't wrong.
They weren't just high. Maybe they were high on love. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Are you still seeing this angel number everywhere?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Or was it just a time?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I see it in the times I needed the most.
It definitely comes to me. But when I was going
through a lot, that's when I saw it. I mean
it was wild and we still see it like it
still comes to us.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's crazy. My whole team sees it, and it's like, well,
once you believe, they start telling you it happened.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
It's it's eleven's. They're everywhere I look. I try not
to focus on it, and then they just pop up.
So I guess I have to write album now.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, well you can write anything. They just want to communicate,
you know.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I love that being in New York. What does it
do to you? It makes you want to leave as
fast as possible.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
No, no, I mean the only thing I do think
is that, like I want to take my shoes off
when I walk in the door and leave them.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Next Yeah, that is that something you do?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Oh absolutely, walks in, I'm like take them off please.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
So it was like we are not rolling around on
this floor with our shoes everywhere. But it's full of life.
It's full of like long time. Like I see some
people that I've grown up with that are fans and
I've loved them a lifetime, They've loved me a lifetime.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
They're still showing up.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
There's still out there waiting and it's wonderful and I
get to hug them and do a picture and sign
or whatever. It's it's it's been a lifetime of coming
to New York and just loving the energy. The energy
is super intense, so you got to stay super grounded.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
It's easy to like enjoy and lean in here. It's
like you really have to find balance. But it's like
the spice of life New York City.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You. I think you gave me this very lengthy text
about all your favorite restaurants in what city? Wow? Absolutely,
did you do any of it? Yes, we have. Well
a lot of the stuff is a great place to
take your kids. I'm like, wow, well.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Maybe I didn't do an edit for you. I don't
think you can enjoy that playfulness.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh yes, of course a week past a park that
you loved. Anyway, thank you. We went to a couple
of restaurants, this and that and so. Traveling, yes, when
you're in your line of business, you've got to do
a lot of travel. But you work, but you're working
a lot when you're traveling. I mean when I go.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
On tour, it's like I get it's the greatest time
of my life and I'm hoping to do that possibly
next year, and I get to see my fans, give back,
seeing connect and also.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Go through my restaurant list.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It was great a restaurant list and also see the
sites and like learn the history and the culture and
then have something to stay while I'm on stage. I'd
be like, you know, when I went to Saint Louis,
I went to Ted Drew's was just like this fro
Yo place that is like only there, and I.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Was like, I was there and people love it because
it's their place. They're so proud of it.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
And so I feel like it's unless, you know, if
I get to go out and see the world and
then go on stage, then I'm super connected. And they're like, Oh,
she's not just phone it in. She knows what day
of the week it is, she knows exactly where she is.
She's not on script, and we're here for something bespoke,
which is really cool.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
What has changed, like in you like traveling and performing
the Katie before you had your daughter and the Katie now.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well, I haven't ever been on a tour with her,
so that remains to be seen. But I'm sure I
will be at every playground and or maybe a zoo
here and there, every children's museum.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I will be doing all that.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
But I think what will change is that you know,
I just almost forty. It's really it's one cocktail.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Is this number really bothering you? The forty thing? Are
you embracing it? Are you?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I'm talking about metabolism is everything, and you know, yeah,
it's just it's equanimity, it's balance, it's all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
So just you know, and.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Also like I don't know if you know, but if
you've been hungover with a toddler, they.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Will slap you away over.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
They don't care that you're hungover, you're getting up anywhere,
you're getting up anyway, that you're.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Making fast over with a toddler. Are you are you still?
Are you not drinking anymore?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's no, it's it's sparingly. I picked my moments.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Did you Was there really some obvious, obvious clarity after
you slowed down on drinking a little bit? Oh yeah,
of course, talk about it because a lot of people listening,
maybe me included.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Like what what you can text me? Elvin?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Are you a sponsor?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I mean everybody's going through something. Everybody has a journey,
everybody has a karma to.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Clear or figure out.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
And you know, it's it's not always peachy keen jelly bean,
and and you just have to you just have to
keep great people around you. Think about the next day,
think about you know what you want to accomplish in life,
and know that like there are there are things that
get in your way if.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You don't keep it in balance.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
There you go and being a mom. Yeah, they will
slap you.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
They will slap you away, they will jump on you.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's one wonderful It's like it's what you've always been
looking for.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
One day you wake up and you have this life
you're living. You're living outside of Los Angeles, living near
the right, you live near the beach. You're living.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I take my daughter to school sometimes on a bicycle,
and so you know, it's only everything is only five
minutes away. Well, in New York they kind of do that,
They walk their kids to school and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's just it's picture picturesque. Maybe shocked. Well, but look
at look at where you are and what you're doing,
you know, and then look back to the day where
you had no clue this would ever be a part
of your plan, It would never be a part of
their life, or this was the part of the plan
all along.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I never put limits on my dreams, and I think
your thoughts are you know, your thoughts are tough to
manage sometimes, but they are the most important things because
it's thoughts are energy, then your words, then your deeds.
It all translates from top to bottom.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So I always had these.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Dreams and I they've always been larger than life. And
then when I was able to accomplish some of them,
I was like, Okay, well, time to take the barriers
off of those. Anything could happen, let's you know. And
whenever there's a negative thought that comes into my mind,
I literally say, few, you're not real, You're a liar.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Ge Vergi says the exercise world. This negative thought is
in my head. Why is it in my head? Let
me investigate why and kind of lean into it, or
would you rather just eradicate it?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, that's what a place like Hoffman Process is for.
It helps you kind of get to the bottom of
why you're.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Thinking that way. And some of that, you know, isn't you.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
It's just patterns from it is something that happened to
you maybe, or patterns from past.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't know. I kind of at sixty the grand
dam of the room. Yeah, I actually welcome in the
negative thoughts sometimes because I've really I.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Had friends with your shadows.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well, I feel like they really tell us a lot
about us. I blame myself for the negative thoughts. I
allow them in.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
That's fine, but you don't want them to. I'm just
picking off little hairs. That's fine, but you don't want
them to you know, and own you. They can pass.
Aren't the dark thoughts kind of important?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Though? Because then you realize how happy you are during
the happy moments. If you never had these dark moments,
you would never feel it.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Sure, light cannot exist without the darkness. How would we
know light was if darkness didn't exist?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
You know all that's why you came in. It's just
not the lights, it's just exactly. It's all balance, It's
all balance.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So was it Stephen Colbert talking to Anderson Cooper about grief.
Did you see this interview? It's fascinating. Stephen Colbert was
once quoted as saying, you have to love the awful
things as much as you love the great things in
your life. When it comes turned time for grieving, like
losing a friend or losing and going to a really
dark spot, you owe it. You owe that grief as
(18:43):
much love as you give love to the things that
are great in your life. And he puts it much
better than I do.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I mean, I heard something beautiful, like when someone passes
on and you have that grief, it's just all the
love that you wanted to give them. So there's something
positive in that as well. It's all the love that
you couldn't give a more care I give them.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Now?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Can I play a gay damn song? Now? Please?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Well?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yes, this is too. Why are we in therapy all
of a.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Sudden, I'm trying to pull a gay dance song.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
A guy? They of course, I'm I'm gonna play it again.
I'm gonna play over and over and over. Fine, okay,
So the album one four three not dropping until September twentieth,
which isn't that far from now minutes and then, you know,
I can't imagine, you know. The first recipient of the
Vanguard Award at the MTV Video Music Words was Michael Jackson,
and now it's Katie Perry. Does that blow your mind
at all? Or you're like, yeah, I'm on a van,
(19:32):
I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
No, no, no, of course it blows my mind.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
And of course I take it very seriously, and of
course I'm so grateful. It's the first thing out.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Of my mouth. Even when I'm like in a mood
or whatever, I'm just.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Like, I'm so grateful. Yeah, you know, all all of it.
Of course, it's incredible. It's an amazing opportunity that MTV
has given me. I have, like, dan freaking minutes. That's
a big deal. I started with twenty seconds a bumper
for commercial singing like a Virgin, which I sang wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Don't look it up. Everybody looks it up.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
And I kissed a girl and then and now it's
just like a whole deal. So and there's lots of
other people in the audience, and and and maybe artists
that listened to me when they were twelve and now
they're there, and or.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Artists that you listened to when you were twelve.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
How are you not nervous beta blockers? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I remember when we first met you and you were
borrowing clothes from people. You were like, yeah, I have
a designer friend, she let me borrow this, and blah
blah blah.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I'm still borrowing clothes, buddy.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But it's just crazy, like it's you know, people probably
beg to dry.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
But it's not look you know, it's not always like that.
There's there's always little not little, but there's things behind
the scenes that people don't know. There is still a hustle,
there is sometimes still a struggle in a specific department.
I am so blessed beyond belief. I am so grateful.
But like we all know what Instagram versus reality is.
(20:57):
We all know we are all in this human experiens.
Like nobody gets out of here without going through their thing.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Amen, I gotta play it.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I gotta play.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I'm gonna play a few minutes. We have to take
a break first, but let's go. Lifetimes will be the
next song I do play.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Are we still live?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
If you're listening in your.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Car, I love you have a great day.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
If you're on foot, I love you have a great day.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
One for three baby, car, automobile drivers, and pedestrians are
love the same. Katie. Thank you for coming in. It's
always great.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
To have you here.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It was only four minutes late this time.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
We made it. We made it work. We made it work.
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
They call me Lady Perry.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Katy. No, I'm done. In the morning show,
Hit it.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Let's go live from the Mercedes Benz interview lounge.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Here she is a standing ovulation for Katie Perry.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Turning the lights down, turning the lights down?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
What are you doing? She's messing with.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
You.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
What are you doing turning down my light? My lighting
to be that way? Listen.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
We try to do that every day and our digital
team comes in.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Were lied by the way.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Are you smell good? L cool J was here earlier?
He smell good to everyone?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Smells good today, Smell good, look good, make love.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Good to Are we were leaving the lights down? She
walks in herself the entire house.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
No, I'm you know.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I know you can't tell, but I will be forty
in a month, and I don't need to. This is
my gum. I'm gonna chew it later.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Are your hands clean?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Who cares? Germs are good for the microbiomes? Hi knew
YUK and other places.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Don't start about this. I'm almost forty thing, you know,
I just turned sixty.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I can't tell.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
At all, But that didn't sound convincing, Katie.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I think I think we both are in love with
our doctors, aren't we?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Andre vitamins. Oh, come on, yes, four, Thank you very much.
You're welcome. You know what I do.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I do a lot of swimming you great, thanks, and
a lot of working out and a lot of rehearsing
for this Vanguard Ward.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, so what are you doing? Can you tell us
what you're doing on stage during the Vanguardward?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I am shoving so many songs into over ten minutes. Okay, yes,
and I'm and I'm flying, and I'm there's drones, there's
a mountain I have to climb.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Is there a magician in a bouncy house?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm the magician, babe.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I talked about the last time we saw each other.
It was on a ship.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And okay, I'll tell you the godmother Cheat Yeah you
were Cheat Codes was doing a set in their big
dance hall or whatever. Do you remember this? And our
friends we all got together and I think we did
some chocolate mushrooms or something. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Wait, I thought this was live.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
We're dancing. Okay, we were dancing. Go there, We're dancing
your asses off and this this figure comes out looks
like to you and a bomber in a in a hoodie.
I went, I bet that's Katie and it was. And
we danced a couple of dances.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, if there's a rave, I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's on a ship, so random.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know. I like to pop up. I like to dance.
Didn't you hear that with the last song that you
just played?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I love that song.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Do you like it?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah? It's fun and we need more fun in our lives. Yes,
she just wrote, just played lifetime. So Nate's writing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Thanks Nate case.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
He forgot so sweet? Would you like to put your
gum here? No, you just played this song. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It's very important today. Hey so one four three?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yes, I love you too.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Do we have to wait? Can we just play some
of it? Why do they gotta be there?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I mean your elvis freaking duran.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So I know they didn't give it to me because
they because I do. We had lawsuits in the past
when I played things early.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Oh yeah, oh really that was back in the day
when everything was so analog.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
No was recent.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Well, those people are too offended. You are right, but
you know they're too precious. It's just pop music. Touch
grass everyone she's freaking was.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Can I show the latest clickbait? That just came over
my TMZ. Have you seen this? Literally, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
No, it's you.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Taking a photo with Kim Kardashian and Orlando is staring
at her butt. Wait, hold on, I mean, how could
you not?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
She's got I approve.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Meanwhile, Orlando and Katie also hit the red carpet where
the couple post for pictures. The images captured Orlando with
this hand right above Katie's but.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Their places. Sorry to tell you, my daughter is four.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
There is that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So wait, what's the controversy.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
There is no controversy. My whole point count that click.
Do you need more controversy?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Oh? Just seventeen years? Oh please, seventeen years.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I can tell you I sent you. I sent her
a text. I don't know if you were offended or not.
Do you remember this? Hold on?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Which one should I be?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Now? I got to find it? Kate, Kate, what do
I have? Have you listened to her?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Kate kp Maybe Katy with an ID after freaking fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I was listening to a Woman's World and I sent you.
I sent you a text, and I said, I love
it so much. I'm spotting my blouse. I'm lactating and
you and what.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Did I say? I was the best text I had received.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I think you said you're a little offended.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
No, the best response I've received. It was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I mean, if someone's music makes someone spot their blouse.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Especially you, my lactating love. I don't know you lactated.
I'm so proud of you. You must be really in
touch with your feminine devine.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I am as much as I can.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm just thinking how insane it is, how ole we
really have known you. I remember doing an interview with
you when I was pregnant with one of my kids.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Are they in college at nineteen?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And look he's going to college.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
He's in the UK in college. That one.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And they were in your belly.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
They were in my belly.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Time is a thief and it gives faster.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
We turned off those overheads.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You look awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You look great.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Talk about the excitement of this album.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I'm so excited because it's an album I always wanted
to make. It's somewhat of a dance album. It's like
three different parts, somewhat rhythmic, somewhat quintessential MOI. And then
there's that dance type of flavor like Lifetimes.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
And there's another song called Crush.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And then there's a song feature twenty one Savage that's
coming that's called Gimme, Gimme and it's kind of dark
Horse esque.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So there's so.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Many flavors to come, and it's a party and everyone's invited,
and it's the fall. It's where you know, the fault
During the fall, sometimes the seasonal sads come. So I
wanted to give a little serotonut.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We need it always and you always deliver.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
That electioneer fall.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Who knows what could happen? The world is Come on, guys.
The world is a crazy place, is it not.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's a beautiful place. You just have to find the good.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well look, well get what the good?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
The good and everyone and everything. There's a positive and
a negative to everything, so find the positive.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
But what happens when you find yourself and this is
just general. You find yourself like, oh my god, I'm
in the debt right now? What do you do yourself?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Reach out to a friend, you hold on to your family,
and you try and communicate.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Best as possible.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That's hard, and you look for tools. Tools have gotten
me through everything. Quieting all the noise, finding the stillness,
finding that center, that balance. I mean for seventeen years
from the moment I first started, people like one hit
Wonder and I was like, okay, well, it's just like
when they say she's pregnant.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well I'm not. I'm just it's Taco Bell. So I
just keep on keeping on.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Was any of this from I read that you and
Orlando went through the Hoffmann process? Yes, I've read so
much about it. Which parts of that were the most
life changing or altering? Because I read that you said
it changed your entire life. You would be dead without it?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I wouldn't be on this planet
without it.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It was incredible. Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Orlando went first, and he came back, and then I
broke up with him because he wouldn't play into any
my old games. I was a real game player, pushing pool,
pushing pull, Cat and Mouse capt'n Mouse. And then he
kind of changed all of his patterns and I was like, Ugh,
this is boring.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Let's go, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
And then I had a really tough year and I
decided to go because I didn't have very minute options left.
And it changed my life and it rewired the way
I think about myself. You know, like there's two voices
in your head. They call it two wolves, which wolful
you choose? Are you going to choose the negative or
the positive? And so it really quieted that negative and
I think, I don't know, I'm gonna paraphrase this.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I heard this.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
We have like over ninety thousand thoughts every single day,
and like seventy thousand of them are negative. So you
really have to keep that under control. And someone is
gonna catch that and tell me what it actually is.
But it's really those types of numbers.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
But do they teach you like how to do that,
how to quiet it all?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yes, little course, there's all kinds of different exercises. It's
some are physical, some are writing, some are just nature connected.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It's wonderful. It's not for the faint of heart. But
you know, everything great, isn't.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah. As a mother, you know, I know you have
to push through, baby, Yes, you keep on ticking, gotta.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Push through, and then your blessing comes.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And then we go through these moments in our lives
and during them you're like, God, this sucks. But when
you're out of here, like, well, thank God that happened
to me.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Peaks and valleys. Where do you sow the seeds in
the valleys in the valleys? Where do you enjoy the
fruit in the peaks.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I've been known to eat in the valley from.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Time to well.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But you said, okay, so one, you said, this is
the album.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Three that means I love you in like a digital language.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It was a number that I started receiving when I
was going through a really tough time. The angels, the angels,
the guides, your highest self, whatever you believe in, something
other than your self, you narcissists. Sorry, let's hope at
least science you could believe in science. I mean, what
it takes to create a flower is pretty magical.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But there's always a little magic everywhere, sir, in with
the science, I do believe.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, the science is the magic.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But you said this is the album you always wanted
to make.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
One of them.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I always have a little bit of a kind of
a list in my head of the next ten years
and the things that I would like to accomplish, and
this was in my immediate kind of vision.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You'll beat the MTV mid Video Music Words tomorrow night,
receiving your Vanguard Award. We had ll cool j In earlier.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, we're sharing my dressing room.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You should hello.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I mean not that kind where there's a living room
that divides us all dam but not think can keep
us away.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
He's a really cool guy, you know what. I love said.
He's very positive. He's like this album, which is out now.
He said, I needed to release this to show everyone
that I'm in my fortieth year in hip hop. I
want to show everyone I can still do it. What
is your message? My message is love is love?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Okay, that's it.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
It's I think, you know, for everything I was always
looking for. When I had my daughter, I received all
that love that I was looking for. And when the
Beatles said all you need is love, I thought it
was the biggest cliche and then I got to experience
that profoundly.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And I was like, oh my gosh, they weren't wrong.
They weren't just high. Maybe they were high on love. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Are you still seeing this angel number everywhere?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Or was it just a time?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I see it in the times I needed the most.
It definitely comes to me. But when I was going
through a lot, that's when I saw it. I mean
it was wild and we still see it like it
still comes to us.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's crazy. My whole team sees it, and it's like, well,
once you believe, they start telling you it happened.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
It's it's eleven's. They're everywhere I look. I try not
to focus on it, and then they just pop up.
So I guess I have to write album now.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, well you can write anything. They just want to communicate,
you know.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I love that being in New York. What does it
do to you? It makes you want to leave as
fast as possible.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
No, no, I mean the only thing I do think
is that, like I want to take my shoes off
when I walk in the door and leave them.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Next Yeah, that is that something you do?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Oh absolutely, walks in, I'm like take them off please.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
So it was like we are not rolling around on
this floor with our shoes everywhere. But it's full of life.
It's full of like long time. Like I see some
people that I've grown up with that are fans and
I've loved them a lifetime, They've loved me a lifetime.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
They're still showing up.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
There's still out there waiting and it's wonderful and I
get to hug them and do a picture and sign
or whatever. It's it's it's been a lifetime of coming
to New York and just loving the energy. The energy
is super intense, so you got to stay super grounded.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
It's easy to like enjoy and lean in here. It's
like you really have to find balance. But it's like
the spice of life New York City.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You. I think you gave me this very lengthy text
about all your favorite restaurants in what city? Wow? Absolutely,
did you do any of it? Yes, we have. Well
a lot of the stuff is a great place to
take your kids. I'm like, wow, well.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Maybe I didn't do an edit for you. I don't
think you can enjoy that playfulness.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh yes, of course a week past a park that
you loved. Anyway, thank you. We went to a couple
of restaurants, this and that and so. Traveling, yes, when
you're in your line of business, you've got to do
a lot of travel. But you work, but you're working
a lot when you're traveling. I mean when I go.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
On tour, it's like I get it's the greatest time
of my life and I'm hoping to do that possibly
next year, and I get to see my fans, give back,
seeing connect and also.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Go through my restaurant list.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It was great a restaurant list and also see the
sites and like learn the history and the culture and
then have something to stay while I'm on stage. I'd
be like, you know, when I went to Saint Louis,
I went to Ted Drew's was just like this fro
Yo place that is like only there, and I.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Was like, I was there and people love it because
it's their place. They're so proud of it.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
And so I feel like it's unless, you know, if
I get to go out and see the world and
then go on stage, then I'm super connected. And they're like, Oh,
she's not just phone it in. She knows what day
of the week it is, she knows exactly where she is.
She's not on script, and we're here for something bespoke,
which is really cool.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
What has changed, like in you like traveling and performing
the Katie before you had your daughter and the Katie now.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well, I haven't ever been on a tour with her,
so that remains to be seen. But I'm sure I
will be at every playground and or maybe a zoo
here and there, every children's museum.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I will be doing all that.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
But I think what will change is that you know,
I just almost forty. It's really it's one cocktail.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Is this number really bothering you? The forty thing? Are
you embracing it? Are you?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I'm talking about metabolism is everything, and you know, yeah,
it's just it's equanimity, it's balance, it's all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
So just you know, and.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Also like I don't know if you know, but if
you've been hungover with a toddler, they.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Will slap you away over.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
They don't care that you're hungover, you're getting up anywhere,
you're getting up anyway, that you're.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Making fast over with a toddler. Are you are you still?
Are you not drinking anymore?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's no, it's it's sparingly. I picked my moments.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Did you Was there really some obvious, obvious clarity after
you slowed down on drinking a little bit? Oh yeah,
of course, talk about it because a lot of people listening,
maybe me included.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Like what what you can text me? Elvin?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Are you a sponsor?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I mean everybody's going through something. Everybody has a journey,
everybody has a karma to.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Clear or figure out.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
And you know, it's it's not always peachy keen jelly bean,
and and you just have to you just have to
keep great people around you. Think about the next day,
think about you know what you want to accomplish in life,
and know that like there are there are things that
get in your way if.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You don't keep it in balance.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
There you go and being a mom. Yeah, they will
slap you.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
They will slap you away, they will jump on you.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's one wonderful It's like it's what you've always been
looking for.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
One day you wake up and you have this life
you're living. You're living outside of Los Angeles, living near
the right, you live near the beach. You're living.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I take my daughter to school sometimes on a bicycle,
and so you know, it's only everything is only five
minutes away. Well, in New York they kind of do that,
They walk their kids to school and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's just it's picture picturesque. Maybe shocked. Well, but look
at look at where you are and what you're doing,
you know, and then look back to the day where
you had no clue this would ever be a part
of your plan, It would never be a part of
their life, or this was the part of the plan
all along.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I never put limits on my dreams, and I think
your thoughts are you know, your thoughts are tough to
manage sometimes, but they are the most important things because
it's thoughts are energy, then your words, then your deeds.
It all translates from top to bottom.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So I always had these.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Dreams and I they've always been larger than life. And
then when I was able to accomplish some of them,
I was like, Okay, well, time to take the barriers
off of those. Anything could happen, let's you know. And
whenever there's a negative thought that comes into my mind,
I literally say, few, you're not real, You're a liar.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Ge Vergi says the exercise world. This negative thought is
in my head. Why is it in my head? Let
me investigate why and kind of lean into it, or
would you rather just eradicate it?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, that's what a place like Hoffman Process is for.
It helps you kind of get to the bottom of
why you're.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Thinking that way. And some of that, you know, isn't you.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
It's just patterns from it is something that happened to
you maybe, or patterns from past.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't know. I kind of at sixty the grand
dam of the room. Yeah, I actually welcome in the
negative thoughts sometimes because I've really I.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Had friends with your shadows.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well, I feel like they really tell us a lot
about us. I blame myself for the negative thoughts. I
allow them in.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
That's fine, but you don't want them to. I'm just
picking off little hairs. That's fine, but you don't want
them to you know, and own you. They can pass.
Aren't the dark thoughts kind of important?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Though? Because then you realize how happy you are during
the happy moments. If you never had these dark moments,
you would never feel it.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Sure, light cannot exist without the darkness. How would we
know light was if darkness didn't exist?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
You know all that's why you came in. It's just
not the lights, it's just exactly. It's all balance, It's
all balance.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So was it Stephen Colbert talking to Anderson Cooper about grief.
Did you see this interview? It's fascinating. Stephen Colbert was
once quoted as saying, you have to love the awful
things as much as you love the great things in
your life. When it comes turned time for grieving, like
losing a friend or losing and going to a really
dark spot, you owe it. You owe that grief as
(18:43):
much love as you give love to the things that
are great in your life. And he puts it much
better than I do.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I mean, I heard something beautiful, like when someone passes
on and you have that grief, it's just all the
love that you wanted to give them. So there's something
positive in that as well. It's all the love that
you couldn't give a more care I give them.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Now?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Can I play a gay damn song? Now? Please?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Well?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yes, this is too. Why are we in therapy all
of a.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Sudden, I'm trying to pull a gay dance song.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
A guy? They of course, I'm I'm gonna play it again.
I'm gonna play over and over and over. Fine, okay,
So the album one four three not dropping until September twentieth,
which isn't that far from now minutes and then, you know,
I can't imagine, you know. The first recipient of the
Vanguard Award at the MTV Video Music Words was Michael Jackson,
and now it's Katie Perry. Does that blow your mind
at all? Or you're like, yeah, I'm on a van,
(19:32):
I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
No, no, no, of course it blows my mind.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
And of course I take it very seriously, and of
course I'm so grateful. It's the first thing out.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Of my mouth. Even when I'm like in a mood
or whatever, I'm just.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Like, I'm so grateful. Yeah, you know, all all of it.
Of course, it's incredible. It's an amazing opportunity that MTV
has given me. I have, like, dan freaking minutes. That's
a big deal. I started with twenty seconds a bumper
for commercial singing like a Virgin, which I sang wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Don't look it up. Everybody looks it up.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
And I kissed a girl and then and now it's
just like a whole deal. So and there's lots of
other people in the audience, and and and maybe artists
that listened to me when they were twelve and now
they're there, and or.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Artists that you listened to when you were twelve.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
How are you not nervous beta blockers? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I remember when we first met you and you were
borrowing clothes from people. You were like, yeah, I have
a designer friend, she let me borrow this, and blah
blah blah.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I'm still borrowing clothes, buddy.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But it's just crazy, like it's you know, people probably
beg to dry.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
But it's not look you know, it's not always like that.
There's there's always little not little, but there's things behind
the scenes that people don't know. There is still a hustle,
there is sometimes still a struggle in a specific department.
I am so blessed beyond belief. I am so grateful.
But like we all know what Instagram versus reality is.
(20:57):
We all know we are all in this human experiens.
Like nobody gets out of here without going through their thing.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Amen, I gotta play it.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I gotta play.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I'm gonna play a few minutes. We have to take
a break first, but let's go. Lifetimes will be the
next song I do play.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Are we still live?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
If you're listening in your.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Car, I love you have a great day.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
If you're on foot, I love you have a great day.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
One for three baby, car, automobile drivers, and pedestrians are
love the same. Katie. Thank you for coming in. It's
always great.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
To have you here.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It was only four minutes late this time.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
We made it. We made it work. We made it work.
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
They call me Lady Perry.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Katy. No, I'm done. In the morning show,
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