August 16, 2024 • 9 mins
Craig Kerr takes a look at the Canterbury golf scene with Jay Carter, thanks to the Elmwood Trading Company.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time to talk Golf Now and an association with the
Elmwood Trading Company. We welcome to the program, Jay Carter
Jay as the Golf New Zealand's National coach. Jay, good morning,
welcome to christ Church.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, thanks for having me. It's great to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
No worries. Hot on the heels of the Cannary Golf
Awards last night. Let's start there. You were there the
guest speaker and Gee was mate the game of golf.
Good heart here in christ Church and Canbury. As the
national coach. What are you seeing?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, it has been for a number of years now.
I think it was awesome night last night. Plenty of support,
way bigger than I thought it was going to be.
But yeah, in terms of the players, I mean, there's
so much going for golf down here. I think you've
got some of the best courses in the country and
they're all in a really close radius. Some of the
best training facilities, even before the one at Clearwater, which
(00:51):
is world class and probably the best I've seen anywhere
in the world. But even before that, you know, here
would Pegasus, clear Water, Shirley, Russeley all got amazing facilities,
are amazing golf courses, So I think that lends itself
to producing some good talent and Canterbury's been doing it
for years, so it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You are involved with New Zealand's top players in one
form or another as the national coach for New Zealand Golf,
Lydia co What does that gold medal mean to golf
in this country in your opinion?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I think it's huge And I think if we looked
at Lydia's record, and if Lydia was a man, dare
I say it, her record would beat all of our
men put together their records for their careers. But what
she's achieved is in her whole career is amazing. She's
still only twenty seven. But the Olympic gold, I think
is pretty special. You know, she started the year she
(01:48):
had a win in January and then she was one
went away from getting a Hall of Fame, which I
know is important to her. She lost a playoff. I'm
not sure if you remember, but Nellie Carter came back
and caught her on the last hole and then won
the playoff. And you know, I guess in Lydia's mind
it may be have some doubt going, oh, maybe I'm
going to come up one short of the Hall of
(02:10):
Fame target and then to go to and so I
hadn't played that well. I think since then, I think
that noted her confidence. I don't know that that would
be my assumption.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Tell us something about Lydia Cooe that we can tell
us that we probably don't know. I mean, you and
I had a good chat last night about a couple
of things. Tell us something that we don't know about
lydi Eco.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah. I think one thing that people don't know is
now much she gives back to golf in New Zealand's obviously,
you know, she inspires players. So what she does is
why we want golfers on the international stage, because they
inspire people to play golf. And so she certainly did
that when she broke out, and she will have done
that after the Olympic gold. But so she gives back
in that way, which is by virtue of how good
(02:54):
she is. But also she gives back to our young players.
She hosts a lot of our young players. She brings
them over to the States and they stay with her
and train with her and hang out with her. But
she doesn't do that, she doesn't do that for her Oh,
she doesn't do it for her, but she doesn't make
a big song and dance about it. She just does
it under the radar. She's a massive, hugely patriotic to
(03:17):
New Zealand and a massive fan of golf New Zealand.
So but she does a lot of it under the radar.
And yeah, I think she's amazing athlete. She's a generational athlete.
We'll never see anybody like Lydia again. So we're blessed
in golf. I think to have Tiger in the men's
game and this generation and also Lydia and so pretty special. Time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Tell us a little about yourself, Jay, how did you
end up becoming the national coach of New Zealand golf?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, well, so I guess a failed playing career, like yeah, yeah,
pretty much you can't What is it those who can't
teach or something like that. Yeah, so it was I
wanted to be a player. As I mentioned last night,
I had unless you on the first here, then you
set an open where I couldn't move, chrozen with fear
(04:08):
and that always fascinated me, not in a good way
at the time. It frustrated me and broke me at
the time, but it always stuck with me as to
what happened there, and understand, you know, how come I
could do it on a practice fairway or on a
casual hit with my mates. But as soon as that
crucial came on, and it didn't even mean that I
played Paulie, I literally couldn't move. And so I guess
(04:30):
I was always fascinated by what was the difference between
what I could do? Because physically on the range, if
you lined all of us up at the time, hard
to separate us on the driving range or the practice area.
But as soon as we went on the course, the
same guys won every time, and a lot of the time,
like Mark Brown was probably the best player in New
Setlim at the time, amateur wise, and I worked harder
(04:54):
than him, and I went to the gym more, and
I was fitter than him, and you know, like there's
so many of the the so called boxes that were tacked,
but he beat me every single time we played. And
so it always fascinated me, I think from a playing
point of view, because people say, oh, you know, if
you work hard enough and you see your goals, you'll
get there. But go off the complex game and it's
(05:15):
not that simple. So I guess the fascination with that
is probably what drove me into coach and just trying
to find out my own issues and demons. So and
I'm still on that search.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Before he asked me, no, I won't answer that question.
So what do you do? What does a national coach do?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Really good question. So we've got four, We've got five
phases to our national talent development plan, and I guess
Phase one is the young Canterbury players that I'll spend
some time with this afternoon, and normally that's District run
and District lad and we just support where we can.
And then Phase five at the other end of the
(05:49):
spectrum is Foxy at Lidia and Dan Hillier. So in
between that, it's probably where I's been most of my time.
In Phase two, which is our national junior team, and
then more so in Phase three, which is our national
senior team like our Iidenhower Rep players, and then Phase
four is our rookie pros like Kazumikabori. So I spent
time probably mainly with that level of three and four
(06:12):
and it can be overseeing. So nowadays that players have
teams of physios and strength conditioning coaches, mental skills they'll
have a most of them will have a swing coach,
so I'll often be the glue between those service providers
and help out with the player in terms of their
long term development plan. Sometimes I'll step in and do
(06:35):
technical work as in swing coaching if they don't have
a swing coach. So it varies, really, but I guess
probably a little bit more holistic approach to development and
long term development than it was traditionally the case when
I was younger.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I can't let you go, Jay without a quickly touching
on live golf. There's some talk around that live golf
coming to christ which in next year, and I like
to sort of get your thoughts on that. What are
you thinking?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, well, controversially, it turns out I think it's good.
I think it's done a lot for the game. It's
grown that I know, it's brought a new audience of
younger people who enjoy watching golf or who enjoy watching
live golf. I think the coverage, the way they're doing
it is fantastic. It's an opportunity for players to play
(07:24):
around the world. I think I like the global aspect
of it, and that you know, we've seen the best
players in the world in Australia, which we haven't seen
since probably the nineties. And if they come here, I
mean when have we ever had that? And if we
did have a PGA Tour event here, I guarantee you
that we wouldn't have a Scottie Scheffler wouldn't be coming
down Xander Schoffley, so you would have which and there're
(07:45):
still great players than players that would come down, but
they're not the top ones, whereas would Live Golf. The
top players play everywhere, they play all around the world,
So it's global growth for the game. In terms of
the politics, I'm not I don't know much about that,
so I stay out of that and look at it
from a goalf point of view and go, what do
we all want? We all want more people playing the game,
enjoying the game, and if this is a way for
(08:07):
players to be exposed to golf, to excite a new crowd,
exciting new generation, and give the PGA Tour a shakeup
as well, because you know it's not I think they've
made some good shifts since Live Golf, so I think
it's been positive for them, not just in terms of
the money and more money, but they're coverages and needs
to get better. I think they were probably they had
(08:30):
a bit of a monopoly on the market of golf coverage,
and I think now with social media and live golf,
they're going to have to up there a game. So
we'll see some really cool stuff I think coming out
of it, and if it comes across Church, I'll be here.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Indeed, Jake, really appreciate your time here on the All
Sports BRIEFCAS. Thanks so much, and thanks for coming to
christ and being the guest speaker of the Canary Golf
Awards last night, and enjoy your time down here and
teach our young people as much as you possibly can.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Thanks great tears me.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Jake Carter, the Golf New Zealand's national coach and yeah,
some really some really good things coming out of his area.
And just on those golf wars last night. Congratulations to
sah Kashida and Cooper Moore, the women's and men's Kennary
golfers of the air. We've been together a breakaway real quick.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Right For more from News Talks at b listen live
on air or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
Time to talk Golf Now and an association with the
Elmwood Trading Company. We welcome to the program, Jay Carter
Jay as the Golf New Zealand's National coach. Jay, good morning,
welcome to christ Church.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, thanks for having me. It's great to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
No worries. Hot on the heels of the Cannary Golf
Awards last night. Let's start there. You were there the
guest speaker and Gee was mate the game of golf.
Good heart here in christ Church and Canbury. As the
national coach. What are you seeing?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, it has been for a number of years now.
I think it was awesome night last night. Plenty of support,
way bigger than I thought it was going to be.
But yeah, in terms of the players, I mean, there's
so much going for golf down here. I think you've
got some of the best courses in the country and
they're all in a really close radius. Some of the
best training facilities, even before the one at Clearwater, which
(00:51):
is world class and probably the best I've seen anywhere
in the world. But even before that, you know, here
would Pegasus, clear Water, Shirley, Russeley all got amazing facilities,
are amazing golf courses, So I think that lends itself
to producing some good talent and Canterbury's been doing it
for years, so it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You are involved with New Zealand's top players in one
form or another as the national coach for New Zealand Golf,
Lydia co What does that gold medal mean to golf
in this country in your opinion?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I think it's huge And I think if we looked
at Lydia's record, and if Lydia was a man, dare
I say it, her record would beat all of our
men put together their records for their careers. But what
she's achieved is in her whole career is amazing. She's
still only twenty seven. But the Olympic gold, I think
is pretty special. You know, she started the year she
(01:48):
had a win in January and then she was one
went away from getting a Hall of Fame, which I
know is important to her. She lost a playoff. I'm
not sure if you remember, but Nellie Carter came back
and caught her on the last hole and then won
the playoff. And you know, I guess in Lydia's mind
it may be have some doubt going, oh, maybe I'm
going to come up one short of the Hall of
(02:10):
Fame target and then to go to and so I
hadn't played that well. I think since then, I think
that noted her confidence. I don't know that that would
be my assumption.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Tell us something about Lydia Cooe that we can tell
us that we probably don't know. I mean, you and
I had a good chat last night about a couple
of things. Tell us something that we don't know about
lydi Eco.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah. I think one thing that people don't know is
now much she gives back to golf in New Zealand's obviously,
you know, she inspires players. So what she does is
why we want golfers on the international stage, because they
inspire people to play golf. And so she certainly did
that when she broke out, and she will have done
that after the Olympic gold. But so she gives back
in that way, which is by virtue of how good
(02:54):
she is. But also she gives back to our young players.
She hosts a lot of our young players. She brings
them over to the States and they stay with her
and train with her and hang out with her. But
she doesn't do that, she doesn't do that for her Oh,
she doesn't do it for her, but she doesn't make
a big song and dance about it. She just does
it under the radar. She's a massive, hugely patriotic to
(03:17):
New Zealand and a massive fan of golf New Zealand.
So but she does a lot of it under the radar.
And yeah, I think she's amazing athlete. She's a generational athlete.
We'll never see anybody like Lydia again. So we're blessed
in golf. I think to have Tiger in the men's
game and this generation and also Lydia and so pretty special. Time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Tell us a little about yourself, Jay, how did you
end up becoming the national coach of New Zealand golf?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, well, so I guess a failed playing career, like yeah, yeah,
pretty much you can't What is it those who can't
teach or something like that. Yeah, so it was I
wanted to be a player. As I mentioned last night,
I had unless you on the first here, then you
set an open where I couldn't move, chrozen with fear
(04:08):
and that always fascinated me, not in a good way
at the time. It frustrated me and broke me at
the time, but it always stuck with me as to
what happened there, and understand, you know, how come I
could do it on a practice fairway or on a
casual hit with my mates. But as soon as that
crucial came on, and it didn't even mean that I
played Paulie, I literally couldn't move. And so I guess
(04:30):
I was always fascinated by what was the difference between
what I could do? Because physically on the range, if
you lined all of us up at the time, hard
to separate us on the driving range or the practice area.
But as soon as we went on the course, the
same guys won every time, and a lot of the time,
like Mark Brown was probably the best player in New
Setlim at the time, amateur wise, and I worked harder
(04:54):
than him, and I went to the gym more, and
I was fitter than him, and you know, like there's
so many of the the so called boxes that were tacked,
but he beat me every single time we played. And
so it always fascinated me, I think from a playing
point of view, because people say, oh, you know, if
you work hard enough and you see your goals, you'll
get there. But go off the complex game and it's
(05:15):
not that simple. So I guess the fascination with that
is probably what drove me into coach and just trying
to find out my own issues and demons. So and
I'm still on that search.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Before he asked me, no, I won't answer that question.
So what do you do? What does a national coach do?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Really good question. So we've got four, We've got five
phases to our national talent development plan, and I guess
Phase one is the young Canterbury players that I'll spend
some time with this afternoon, and normally that's District run
and District lad and we just support where we can.
And then Phase five at the other end of the
(05:49):
spectrum is Foxy at Lidia and Dan Hillier. So in
between that, it's probably where I's been most of my time.
In Phase two, which is our national junior team, and
then more so in Phase three, which is our national
senior team like our Iidenhower Rep players, and then Phase
four is our rookie pros like Kazumikabori. So I spent
time probably mainly with that level of three and four
(06:12):
and it can be overseeing. So nowadays that players have
teams of physios and strength conditioning coaches, mental skills they'll
have a most of them will have a swing coach,
so I'll often be the glue between those service providers
and help out with the player in terms of their
long term development plan. Sometimes I'll step in and do
(06:35):
technical work as in swing coaching if they don't have
a swing coach. So it varies, really, but I guess
probably a little bit more holistic approach to development and
long term development than it was traditionally the case when
I was younger.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I can't let you go, Jay without a quickly touching
on live golf. There's some talk around that live golf
coming to christ which in next year, and I like
to sort of get your thoughts on that. What are
you thinking?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, well, controversially, it turns out I think it's good.
I think it's done a lot for the game. It's
grown that I know, it's brought a new audience of
younger people who enjoy watching golf or who enjoy watching
live golf. I think the coverage, the way they're doing
it is fantastic. It's an opportunity for players to play
(07:24):
around the world. I think I like the global aspect
of it, and that you know, we've seen the best
players in the world in Australia, which we haven't seen
since probably the nineties. And if they come here, I
mean when have we ever had that? And if we
did have a PGA Tour event here, I guarantee you
that we wouldn't have a Scottie Scheffler wouldn't be coming
down Xander Schoffley, so you would have which and there're
(07:45):
still great players than players that would come down, but
they're not the top ones, whereas would Live Golf. The
top players play everywhere, they play all around the world,
So it's global growth for the game. In terms of
the politics, I'm not I don't know much about that,
so I stay out of that and look at it
from a goalf point of view and go, what do
we all want? We all want more people playing the game,
enjoying the game, and if this is a way for
(08:07):
players to be exposed to golf, to excite a new crowd,
exciting new generation, and give the PGA Tour a shakeup
as well, because you know it's not I think they've
made some good shifts since Live Golf, so I think
it's been positive for them, not just in terms of
the money and more money, but they're coverages and needs
to get better. I think they were probably they had
(08:30):
a bit of a monopoly on the market of golf coverage,
and I think now with social media and live golf,
they're going to have to up there a game. So
we'll see some really cool stuff I think coming out
of it, and if it comes across Church, I'll be here.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Indeed, Jake, really appreciate your time here on the All
Sports BRIEFCAS. Thanks so much, and thanks for coming to
christ and being the guest speaker of the Canary Golf
Awards last night, and enjoy your time down here and
teach our young people as much as you possibly can.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Thanks great tears me.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Jake Carter, the Golf New Zealand's national coach and yeah,
some really some really good things coming out of his area.
And just on those golf wars last night. Congratulations to
sah Kashida and Cooper Moore, the women's and men's Kennary
golfers of the air. We've been together a breakaway real quick.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Right For more from News Talks at b listen live
on air or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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