They tied the Constellation Cup series against the Diamonds and pushed it to extra time.
Despite two tough losses in Australia and chaos behind the scenes, the Ferns showed incredible fight.
Interim coach Yvette McCausland-Durie juggled coaching and running her business — and still led a gutsy campaign.
Hear her story in a candid chat with Lesley Murdoch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, I am so much admiring of what the Silver
Funds have achieved in the Constellation Cup. They were down
two nil coming into New Zealand and the New Zealand
leg of the two matches and tied it up. They
did that final match in christ Church. What a treat
for me to be sitting in the crowd to watch
the team as it went through the four quarters to
eventually win the match. And albeit we didn't get the Cup,
(00:22):
but we won that match to tie up the series
and the interim Silver Funds coach Elett McCausland jury joins us.
First of all, I want to say congratulations. I know
you wanted to keep the Cup, but you tied the
series two. All that is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, it was. It's funny because we ended up obviously
going straight into that series decider. It was just the
knowledge that we had to win the game in order
to get to that point was brushed over, and of
course the disappointment of losing in the last minute. Yeah,
we didn't probably reflect on that as well as we
probably could have. It was, but it is lots to
(00:57):
be proud of. It was a huge comeback from where
we've been into one and two and great to have competed,
but you know, you always want to win the whole thing,
don't you.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh absolutely, I get that what the team did from
match one to match four. You only have to stand
up and respect what the work that has been done
and bringing the team to players a team, and the
growth as I mentioned before, the growth of the players,
especially the young people like Kevin Hall and Georgia Heffernan.
I have got renewed respect for Grayson Wiki in the
(01:28):
way that she was able to out Courtney Bruce every
time that ball went in there. But also I just
thought that the team looked happy and they played really
good netball.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Event Yeah, look they did, And I think that was
one of the pieces that they've worked really hard on
is despite all of the noise and lots of background
pieces that are going on that are completely out of
almost everyone's control at the moment inside our space anyway.
So there was a real commitment to say, we're going
to be about performance. So I was really proud of
the growth of all of them, whether it was as
(02:02):
a player what they did on court, but as much
about leadership and how they evolved as young people and
developing and evolving leaders off the court. It's been a
lot of work, but it's a real privilege. I always
think it's such a privilege to be in those spaces,
and I'm certainly really grateful for the group that's there.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Look, I remember one of the quotes coming from Martin
Sneedon actually about the high performance environment, how it is
highly volatile, so many components in there to put together.
But you look purely from a performance point of view.
So you had two games in Australia, You've traveled back
to New Zealand, played in Hamilton, you then came down
to christ Church in the space of four days and
(02:41):
put two big performances together, and then you had to
go into extra time. There was a lot of being
asked of both teams, wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, it was, and I think in some ways, you know,
you can take it and think, oh gosh, it's not
enough time, but I guess for us it was. Well,
you knew that it was the time frame, but you
don't have a a lot of time to dwell on it.
You've got to be really focused on a few little
things that are going to make that shift, and so
that in some ways made it really easy to transition
from one to the next. Yeah, I thought we made
(03:10):
the most of the time we had together and the
opportunities that we got to either physically do something or
use analysis in a way that allowed us to share
and think and then reassess where we were heading next.
And hence the reason. You know, I can't say enough
about the Plain group and their openness and willingness to learn,
And they've had lots of new people come into the
(03:32):
environment and offering support and offering new strategies, whether it
be around cognitive you know how they're breathing all sorts
of things, and they've just taken it all on and
been completely willing to go. If this is going to help,
we're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Looking at those younger players who haven't had much opportunity
to international level, certainly not against the world champions and
the team that's ranked number one too, in that hot cauldron,
the intensity and competitiveness of those matches, Honestly, that who
quarter on Wednesday night, it was like a pinball. Players
were bumping off each other on that Who's half, and
(04:06):
I don't know how they get up and keep playing.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I know it's severely physical, isn't it, and I think
the format itself could probably only be described as brutal
in lots of ways. To have to go into that
extra time after you've played to such a high intensity,
maybe there's an opportunity to think about whether a fifth
Test match would be a better decider. We say that
and we sink, oh my goodness, going again another two
(04:28):
days later it would be another tough task. But as
it was, it was certainly impressive to see the way
they could hold their attention to task and we talked
a lot about that and Test one and two that
clearly we showed in three quarters we could compete, but
we just couldn't hold the task for long enough. And
so that was a really big piece for us around that.
(04:48):
The whole cognitive space is you don't all of a
sudden become a poor player, and you don't all of
a sudden lose your skill set. And we certainly were
confident that they had the strength and conditioning based to say,
to see Catherine Hall and Georgia stand up, we're at
least two hundred Test caps less than the Australian diamonds
and it didn't show.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
No, I totally agree, and I just found it extremely encouraging, inspiring,
exciting to see what they actually brought to the game.
I know everyone's talking about Catherine Haul and I hadn't,
to be fair, really looked very hard at her performances
in the A and Z Premiership. She's got elevation, hasn't.
She don't underestimate her my goodness, and obviously her match
(05:31):
decision making is exquisite.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, and I think you know she's a bright, bright
young lady. She's studying to be a doctor, and so
she's incredibly sharp in terms of lots of areas. But
one of the things that I've sound really really important
with all of the growth of them is that the
senior players, the Calli's gardens and all of that defensive unit,
(05:54):
they just get around each other and equally are given
and that whole adage that if you is and you
raise somebody else's performance, you've got to raise your own
in order to keep competing. And they've really taken that
on board and push each other in a really collegial way.
So three new goal attacked, two of them predominantly goal shoots,
(06:15):
have really worked hard to learn the craft of what
that looks like. And for me, I guess it's about
saying everyone comes with their strengths and it's about playing
to what those strengths are rather than trying to get
them to be something that they're not so very impressed with.
Grace and the middies who have worked really hard just
to understand what those differences look like and to make,
(06:36):
you know, to make each other shine. And like you say,
Grace is athleticism. She has court ball that shouldn't have
gone to her. She has called it in and made
it look like it was always meant to be. She
gets up and really takes strong ball, whether it be rebounds,
she gets one hundred percent rebounds. He's just really settled
a lot more squared up to the hoop. So all
of those little things make a difference.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
What do we learn out of it? That puts some
pressure on the Australians. They get rattled just like anybody else.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, they're not easy to rattle. But eventually you
get there and it's a quality competition and that sort
of means such a privilege for this group. This international
campaign's really tight. While we see go away on Tuesdays
in the Northern Tour, and just to have that many
games against that varied amount of opponents. I think you know,
they're really lucky as fantastic preparation for them going into
(07:24):
Commonwealth games. Leave on Tuesday, so I've just got a
few days at home, add a few more sicker clothing
itcense to the bag and ready to go again. And
that's five tests. So two against Scotland and then travel
to London play London Manchester. Two of those games are
back to back, so play one test one day and
play them again the next day. Yeah, this Constellation Cup
(07:47):
has been grueling, but it's set us up well for
what's ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We just want to wish you all the very best.
I mean, the big pluses are the growth of the players,
the fact that we've got coaching depth. We always knew that.
I think you've done a magnificent job with Liana Liota
with you as well, and just wish you all the
very best on the Northern Tour. Yvette mccauslon jury than
brilliant stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
N my heat. For more from News Talk st B, listen.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Live on air or online, and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
Well, I am so much admiring of what the Silver
Funds have achieved in the Constellation Cup. They were down
two nil coming into New Zealand and the New Zealand
leg of the two matches and tied it up. They
did that final match in christ Church. What a treat
for me to be sitting in the crowd to watch
the team as it went through the four quarters to
eventually win the match. And albeit we didn't get the Cup,
(00:22):
but we won that match to tie up the series
and the interim Silver Funds coach Elett McCausland jury joins us.
First of all, I want to say congratulations. I know
you wanted to keep the Cup, but you tied the
series two. All that is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, it was. It's funny because we ended up obviously
going straight into that series decider. It was just the
knowledge that we had to win the game in order
to get to that point was brushed over, and of
course the disappointment of losing in the last minute. Yeah,
we didn't probably reflect on that as well as we
probably could have. It was, but it is lots to
(00:57):
be proud of. It was a huge comeback from where
we've been into one and two and great to have competed,
but you know, you always want to win the whole thing,
don't you.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh absolutely, I get that what the team did from
match one to match four. You only have to stand
up and respect what the work that has been done
and bringing the team to players a team, and the
growth as I mentioned before, the growth of the players,
especially the young people like Kevin Hall and Georgia Heffernan.
I have got renewed respect for Grayson Wiki in the
(01:28):
way that she was able to out Courtney Bruce every
time that ball went in there. But also I just
thought that the team looked happy and they played really
good netball.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Event Yeah, look they did, And I think that was
one of the pieces that they've worked really hard on
is despite all of the noise and lots of background
pieces that are going on that are completely out of
almost everyone's control at the moment inside our space anyway.
So there was a real commitment to say, we're going
to be about performance. So I was really proud of
the growth of all of them, whether it was as
(02:02):
a player what they did on court, but as much
about leadership and how they evolved as young people and
developing and evolving leaders off the court. It's been a
lot of work, but it's a real privilege. I always
think it's such a privilege to be in those spaces,
and I'm certainly really grateful for the group that's there.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Look, I remember one of the quotes coming from Martin
Sneedon actually about the high performance environment, how it is
highly volatile, so many components in there to put together.
But you look purely from a performance point of view.
So you had two games in Australia, You've traveled back
to New Zealand, played in Hamilton, you then came down
to christ Church in the space of four days and
(02:41):
put two big performances together, and then you had to
go into extra time. There was a lot of being
asked of both teams, wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, it was, and I think in some ways, you know,
you can take it and think, oh gosh, it's not
enough time, but I guess for us it was. Well,
you knew that it was the time frame, but you
don't have a a lot of time to dwell on it.
You've got to be really focused on a few little
things that are going to make that shift, and so
that in some ways made it really easy to transition
from one to the next. Yeah, I thought we made
(03:10):
the most of the time we had together and the
opportunities that we got to either physically do something or
use analysis in a way that allowed us to share
and think and then reassess where we were heading next.
And hence the reason. You know, I can't say enough
about the Plain group and their openness and willingness to learn,
And they've had lots of new people come into the
(03:32):
environment and offering support and offering new strategies, whether it
be around cognitive you know how they're breathing all sorts
of things, and they've just taken it all on and
been completely willing to go. If this is going to help,
we're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Looking at those younger players who haven't had much opportunity
to international level, certainly not against the world champions and
the team that's ranked number one too, in that hot cauldron,
the intensity and competitiveness of those matches, Honestly, that who
quarter on Wednesday night, it was like a pinball. Players
were bumping off each other on that Who's half, and
(04:06):
I don't know how they get up and keep playing.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I know it's severely physical, isn't it, and I think
the format itself could probably only be described as brutal
in lots of ways. To have to go into that
extra time after you've played to such a high intensity,
maybe there's an opportunity to think about whether a fifth
Test match would be a better decider. We say that
and we sink, oh my goodness, going again another two
(04:28):
days later it would be another tough task. But as
it was, it was certainly impressive to see the way
they could hold their attention to task and we talked
a lot about that and Test one and two that
clearly we showed in three quarters we could compete, but
we just couldn't hold the task for long enough. And
so that was a really big piece for us around that.
(04:48):
The whole cognitive space is you don't all of a
sudden become a poor player, and you don't all of
a sudden lose your skill set. And we certainly were
confident that they had the strength and conditioning based to say,
to see Catherine Hall and Georgia stand up, we're at
least two hundred Test caps less than the Australian diamonds
and it didn't show.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
No, I totally agree, and I just found it extremely encouraging, inspiring,
exciting to see what they actually brought to the game.
I know everyone's talking about Catherine Haul and I hadn't,
to be fair, really looked very hard at her performances
in the A and Z Premiership. She's got elevation, hasn't.
She don't underestimate her my goodness, and obviously her match
(05:31):
decision making is exquisite.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, and I think you know she's a bright, bright
young lady. She's studying to be a doctor, and so
she's incredibly sharp in terms of lots of areas. But
one of the things that I've sound really really important
with all of the growth of them is that the
senior players, the Calli's gardens and all of that defensive unit,
(05:54):
they just get around each other and equally are given
and that whole adage that if you is and you
raise somebody else's performance, you've got to raise your own
in order to keep competing. And they've really taken that
on board and push each other in a really collegial way.
So three new goal attacked, two of them predominantly goal shoots,
(06:15):
have really worked hard to learn the craft of what
that looks like. And for me, I guess it's about
saying everyone comes with their strengths and it's about playing
to what those strengths are rather than trying to get
them to be something that they're not so very impressed with.
Grace and the middies who have worked really hard just
to understand what those differences look like and to make,
(06:36):
you know, to make each other shine. And like you say,
Grace is athleticism. She has court ball that shouldn't have
gone to her. She has called it in and made
it look like it was always meant to be. She
gets up and really takes strong ball, whether it be rebounds,
she gets one hundred percent rebounds. He's just really settled
a lot more squared up to the hoop. So all
of those little things make a difference.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
What do we learn out of it? That puts some
pressure on the Australians. They get rattled just like anybody else.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, they're not easy to rattle. But eventually you
get there and it's a quality competition and that sort
of means such a privilege for this group. This international
campaign's really tight. While we see go away on Tuesdays
in the Northern Tour, and just to have that many
games against that varied amount of opponents. I think you know,
they're really lucky as fantastic preparation for them going into
(07:24):
Commonwealth games. Leave on Tuesday, so I've just got a
few days at home, add a few more sicker clothing
itcense to the bag and ready to go again. And
that's five tests. So two against Scotland and then travel
to London play London Manchester. Two of those games are
back to back, so play one test one day and
play them again the next day. Yeah, this Constellation Cup
(07:47):
has been grueling, but it's set us up well for
what's ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We just want to wish you all the very best.
I mean, the big pluses are the growth of the players,
the fact that we've got coaching depth. We always knew that.
I think you've done a magnificent job with Liana Liota
with you as well, and just wish you all the
very best on the Northern Tour. Yvette mccauslon jury than
brilliant stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
N my heat. For more from News Talk st B, listen.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Live on air or online, and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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