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October 23, 2024 14 mins

Get the most from your whites and neutrals as Resene Colour Expert Madison McLeod unpacks the formula for some of our favourite shades and explains how to use them to best showcase the decor in your home.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, and welcome to If These Walls Could Talk, the
Razine podcast where we discuss ideas on decorating color and
all things paint. Join us as we welcome guests from
across the world of design. If there's something you'd love
to hear about, email the team editor at habitat by
Razine dot co dot nz.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey, Madison, thanks for coming back to join us on
If These Walls Could Talk.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Now, tell me about.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Some of the Razine colors that you really loved when
you first started, and then what's floating your boat?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Now?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
When I started, it was actually a lot of quarter
white pointer and actually just white.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I played with a lot quarter white pointer. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Quarter white pointer is actually, I mean, it's a great
color because it does have a little bit of everything
in it instead of got the four main components.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Just talking just so people can understand when you say components,
So Razine quarter white pointer, Yeah, what are the components
that are?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
So quarterwait pointer has four different tints in it. We've
sort of got a green, yellow, and a pink and
a black, a little bit of everything, if you will,
So that really helps with mixing it with basically anything
that's in your home. It's a really great starting point,
and I think that's why I loved it at the beginning.
It was such an easy color to recommend because it

(01:21):
did go with anything, which was so good.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
A great base color. Yeah, is that the same thing
as tints.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
They're pretty similar. Yeap. So tints can change the undertone
because they do mix together and sort of cause it's
obviously a different undertone on top of that, but it
is sort of a great way for us to have
a look at those tints to understand where to really
go with tones. So quarterwait pointer, the undertone of that

(01:48):
is really neutral. It doesn't have much of a yellow
or green or blue. It's really neutral, really cool. So
that is why I think it's such a good color
to really start with, because it does go anywhere and
match anything. It's a chameleon if you will.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yes, Well, I mean it is a chameleon because it's
got a lot of those tents as you're talking about
in there, but none of them is dominant.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah. Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
So your favorite color was razine quarter white pointer. What's
your favorite color now?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
My thing now is a lot of the Thornton creams.
I do love the Thornton creams, and I think they
can be utilized much more than they are currently. My
favorite to use is the half Thornton cream because it's
got a little bit of color and it's got a
beautiful undertone to it that just brings a lot of
nature inside. Because it is a lot of that sort

(02:40):
of green and a bit of warmth, bit of color.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
It's lovely and as you say, with Razine Thornton cream,
the natural aspect of that, like with that slight green undertone.
Would you recommend that to somebody who has, say a
vast garden that is open to their living room, would
you say, hey, I think you should go for razine
thorn and cream because then you're actually inviting nature in
and they will sit harmoniously together.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Oh, definitely. What's great about it is that it does
have that especially if someone has a lot of greenery
outside that will get reflected inside with I mean any
sort of sun and window that's going to come in.
So razine half Thornt and cream, being that it's already
got the green undertone, you won't get that really glory
sort of green finish, but it will be already said

(03:29):
harmonious with inside and outside and go together.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Really well, that's great.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
It's interesting that you're talking about that reflection, because sometimes
you can get a reflection, perhaps say from a carpet
or the outside world coming in the sun can reflect
on your walls and it can change the look and
it can pick up the undertones and enhance them. Is
there any color that you've found that you go, Okay,
this will work better for my clients that have, say

(03:56):
a bright red couch, or say an orange carpet something
like that.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
When they've got a really strong set of brown carpet
or a red couch or anything like that, I do
look in colors that already have a little bit of
that tone in it, because it's not going to soak
up any If you go for something like a razine
black white, it's going to soak up any of those surroundings.
So it is going to soak up that red couch
and you wils will look red, or it's going to

(04:21):
soak up the brown carpet. It wants look brown. So
I go with something that already has a little bit
of that undertone. For example, if it was a red couch,
I'll go with something like raisine truffle or rasine tea.
That way, it will have a bit of that color,
so it's not going to soak in too much of that.
And in turn, because the undertone is red, it's going
to go really nicely with the couch.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, it sort of neutralizes it, so you're getting the
reflection of the dominant color, whereas with a cooler white
you risk reflecting that color back. As opposed to razine
truffle placing that with a deep red couch, those undertones
are going to work really well and soften the whole room.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, so your current favorite in the neutrals, you've gone
for razine Thornton cream. I would love to know what
your current favorite color of any colors, and razine is
now my favorite.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I have two, you're allowed to. One of them's a
bit selfish because it's razine. Madison is a good name.
I know, I can't complain it was around before me,
so that's fine. It's a beautiful blue. It's a really
deep blue and it has a little bit of almost
a green to it as well, and I think it's

(05:35):
such a stunning color. My other favorite color, which definitely
is a bit of fun, is razine adrenaline it's very
bright orange. Yes it is, And personally I love those
two together. I put them together quite often in my
own personal designing of things. I think it's just such
a cool poper color, and it's almost got a little

(05:55):
bit of deepness to it, so it's not that sort
of primary orange. It's got almost a bit of burnt
color to it. So I really love it.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, and with razine Madison so well named with Razine
Medisine because it's a deeper blue. It's interesting that you
were just talking about putting together razine adrenaline and razine
Medisine because when you look at them side by side,
they can look like they're almost clashing, and yet they're
complementary colors. How do you introduce those sorts of colors
to your clients? Obviously you're confident using them, how do

(06:24):
you do that with your clients?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Those colors go well together, but people wouldn't think they
would because it's a cool and a warm I tend
to try and tie them back to a neutral in
sort of the home. So both of those have obviously
one's got a really strong orange undertone and one's got
a very strong blue undertone. I'll try to find a
color that has a little bit of those in the middle.
So something like razine marino is a great one to

(06:49):
come back to because that's got a lot of the
bit of that orange, but it's enough of a neutral
that the blue is not going to clash with it either,
so that works really well together.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Those undertones in tents that you were talking about before,
they are the key to finding the right color for people,
aren't they Definitely?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yep, definitely, it's sort of those undertones are really important
because they are what make up the color. So looking
at those undertones and that's what we will find when
people looking in the sort of a wide variety of things,
there'll be that similar undertone coming through. So yeah, it's
the best way to have a look at it.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, the range is so accessible and there's so many
options that you really can go nuts.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, definitely. At the end of day, neutral is a neutral.
It goes with anything, So it's just don't be afraid
that you're going to clash anything together. It's all neutral.
It's all pretty easy to work with. The deep neutrals
are being introduced a lot on doors and frames now
cool just to reshape the room pretty much. They've gone
with a neutral on the wall, and they're wanting something

(07:50):
really deep and something just to frame off that room again,
really create a border around the room. I'm finding a
lot of like razine iron sand being used a lot
of the scene porter as well. Basically it's like a
really neutral gray or black, but it's just got a
bit of color in it, so it's something a bit
of a point of difference.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Like the door in our studio right here.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, exactly like that.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, but it's an interesting thing because it's not a
huge feature. It draws your attention a little bit as
a darker color, but it doesn't dominate the room.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
It's just got a little bit of difference, which is
always nice.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, that's great. Tell me about front doors.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Have you seen people, yes, pressing your personality in that way?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah. I think that's been around for quite a while
and I don't see it going away. The front door
is basically the feature wall of an exterior of a house.
All exteriors now tend to be pretty neutral unless you've
got someone really confident, So that front door is definitely
a way to just add a poper color and they
can go as bold or as sort of dark as

(08:53):
they want, So it's definitely something that's not going away anytime.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, I'm pleased to hear that. I love them. Fun.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, tell me if you're dealing with a client who
has perhaps a very timber based home, so all wooden interior,
because some of the wooden undertones are a little bit yellow,
so yeah, a little bit red.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
A lot of the time, I recommend Razine Thornton cream
and any of those shades of it because it does
have that green undertone to it, and that goes really
beautifully with any timber finishes because it is the green
with the brown. So again the same with if you say,
use razine Spanish white that's got a bit of that
yellow undertone, so it's again like autumn, bit of the

(09:34):
yellow with the brown.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
And when you're dealing with a client who has, say
a predominantly timber house, what do you recommend?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Is it paint or stain or a combination of the two.
Where do you start?

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, So when it comes to staining, I usually would
go with something a bit more neutral. When it comes
to staining on the inside, what I personally really like
is Raisine Bark because it's got a really nice deep
tone to it. And yeah, it's just really bringing out
that natural timber color that I think everyone loves.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh it's gorgeous. I'm just looking at the stains here.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
They're beautiful and razine Bark's got quite a deep reddish
tone to it as well, hasn't it. Yes, yeah, yeah,
it's very pretty. And within this range. There's a number
of finishes for concrete as well. Can you took me
through a few of those.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, it comes in our non skit and sort of
walk on finishes. That's for exterior concrete. We're needing a
little bit of gritch. See you don't fall over in
the rain, good plan. So yeah, they come in some
beautiful off whites and grays that really tie in the exterior.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Beautiful and quite grounding as well.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yes, yeah, And you were talking earlier about neutrals on
the exterior of homes.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Are we seeing a swing back.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
To very very pale or are we getting a little bit,
you know, with that beautiful bold pop of a front door,
or are we seeing a little bit of deeper homes
coming in.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
What do you think the trends are at the moment.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I definitely think a lot of deeper colors people wanting
their house to I think stand out a little bit now. Yeah,
and a lot of those darker colors tend to bring
in a bit of depth and shaping again of the home.
A lot of dark roof, a lot of dark joinery,
and yeah, sort of those two tones. So some nice
almost dark feature wall of the exterior or feature section

(11:19):
and then sort of that neutral whites just are really tired.
And what sort of dark colors do you think will
feature again? A lot of that razine iron sand in
a rasine porter. I am recommending a lot of those,
definitely when it comes to exterior sort of the off whites,
a lot of rasine rice cake. I see a lot
that's got a little bit of yellow undertone again to it.

(11:40):
I think people are starting to lean a little bit
more into that sort of cream tones again, which are
quite beautiful and quite timeless as well. We sort of
see them everywhere.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
How do you actually narrow down which white there's a few,
let's be honest, how do you.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Narrow down which white and get them the white that's
right for them?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, so a lot of people just want white. I
think when they see how many different whites we have,
they realize pretty quickly it's not going to be that simple.
So actually I almost do the opposite way. I go
to all the bright colors on one site and kind
of get them to tell me their favorite colors and

(12:18):
what's on there, and then from there I go back
to the undertones of the white. And then that way
I know naturally it's going to work in their home,
especially if it's an in store and I'm not in
their actual house. Yeah, and then I can go back
to the neutrals that have that little undertone to it.
So if they go to the yellows, I can go
to those sort of creamy ones. So they have the reds,
I could go to those brown ones. It's sort of

(12:39):
making sure that I know what they're going to peck
out if they were to pick a bright color.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, what can you recommend that they bring in to
make your job and their process easier.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean, the first thing that I always start with
is when they come through I or give me a
call to basically I need help, I always make sure
or that they've looked at some inspiration first, so gone
through even into our color shops, gone through our palettes,
so they have a bit more knowledge on what colors
we have and where they think they want to go.

(13:11):
We've got great options in there, like a Habitat plus
book and our big Habitat magazine, and also online, We've
got a whole website and everything as well that they
can really get good inspiration that have the actual colors
on there as well, or the Razine colors always showcase,
so that's always the best place for them to start.
Then when they come in and meet with me, I
just tell them to bring a few images of their

(13:32):
homes so know a little bit about their style. And
also things that are permanent, so if they're doing a
new build they have to already chosen their carpet and
things like that. If they've got featured window frames and
featured areas that they don't want to change, that's important
to sort of bring a photo of that or bring
in something like that. Or if they've got this art

(13:53):
piece that they love, I always tell them to bring
either bring the piece in if you can, because then
we can rarely work with it, or just bring a
photo over and we can really go off that as well.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
That sounds wonderful.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I want to come and see you anytime, Madison. Thank
you so much for coming to join us on If
These Walls Could Talk, and we will look forward.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
To seeing you again very soon.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Hi, look forward to it, and thank you for joining
us on If These Walls Could Talk. Remember to send
those questions through to editor at Habitat by Razine dot
co dot nz.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
See you next time.
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