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July 25, 2024 • 32 mins

Chris Key joins Manaia Stewart for another episode of Mad Monday!

In this episode, the fellas go over the Warriors team list to face the Tigers in ANOTHER must-win game this Friday (02:46)!

Lastly, the guys whip around the SuperCoach Buys/Sells/Holds (16:29) and unleash another 'TAB Good Hunch' (31:30).

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
And welcome back to the Mad Monday podcast, brought to
you by four and twenty five. It's a perfect at
home snack for watching rugby league. You'd be surprised to
hear me a lot of you listen to the podcast.
I had admitted and accepted taking an early plea to
kill less podcasting and accepted a one week ban from
the podcast. Chris the fellow you in and what happened?

(00:31):
We went out to talk to them, the fellas.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Out at about Smart. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
The other day on Monday, Jess Tavanger, we talked to
Marcela Montour, we talked to look Mitcalff and I asked
Jess Tavunger how the rehab was going, and he said,
I'm not doing rehab and I said, oh great.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
And he played really well at the weekend as well.
He's played for the last ten weeks to go out
for about a month. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
The most confusing part about the whole thing is that
I have commentated a lot of those games.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, well, to be fair, the state you're in the
last commentary, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I didn't remember the Friday one, but yeah, he has
been in the lineup for quite some time now.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
How did he handle it, because there's two ways in
my experience, and this has happened to be a lot
this sort of shit. When I was looking at sky
is they either like, go, yeah, well no, I haven't
actually been doing rehab, but I'm feeling really good since
the injury, and they was just like quickly, or he
would just like like, I haven't been doing rehab.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, that one. That one.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
That one, there's a full I think there's a full
video of that going up today of that podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
You can go and watch it on YouTube. Shit.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, is that you asking the question and then him
saying I don't do rehab and then you quickly being like,
how do I stop bowling a stock wrong? And then
just quickly switched subject and then playing five starter over
the top of it. Yeah, that's exactly what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Basically him, he was seen in the video, he just
like steered me down and then goes, I'm not doing rehab.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Then he turned to die and he goes because this
guy done any research? Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Okay, so shit, And the worst part is you don't
even need to research that because you've been watching the
games and this is what went wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
In my defense, if I could It was that we
were actually interviewing someone else and they were injured and
they got swapped out of the last minute, right, and
you're right over prepped.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I don't need to prep for talking about the Warriors.
To the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I've watched and commentated every single one of the games,
and so I got nervous, looked down at my piece
of paper. First question, were you injured? That question was
for Luck Metcalffe. Yeah, how's your rehab? Gune and did.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
You try and justify it? Afterwards?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
To Jazz, No, that was done. What was the justification
going to be? I did go no, no, but how
is the Hammitt? And he goes, yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
That's like someone heading you up about that flu you
had like a month ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's well
and truly gone. I was like, yeah, that was like
over a month ago, so it's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
So yeah, anyway, we are back for the Thursday episode.
This is generally where we look through the team Less,
give you a couple of super coach tips going into
the end of your season, as well as our mad
Monday hunch your team. The Teamless are on the back there, Creston,
as I cast my eye down a myriad of changes,
a raft of changes. Most surprisingly to me, just Vunger's back.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
He's a quick recovery far out. Wasn't it a handy?
But he's back in there.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I think the biggest thing for me is something that
we've all been calling for, maybe too little, too late,
because we have to go and defeated from here on out.
But the first name on your team sheet for this
weekend Roger to us a sheck, he's at full back.
It's going to be for one week, yeah, and then
Tames he'll be back. It was a head knock last
week for Tang. Yeah yeah, pretty nasty had knock. But
he'll be back in a week. So you're fizzed up.

(03:37):
What are you expecting from Roger? Because obviously save our season.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Just classic scenario's back to the Warriors just to save
the season again. Yeah, but I was thinking about it
on the way and no Tall, who Harris, no Shawn Johnson,
no chance a clock start. Those are like our three guys, right,
those are our three leaders and now much Barnett, Roger
comes in at fullback. He's a completely different player to
Chance to kol clock star. He doesn't really unlock that right,

(04:03):
side a. He's like when you put Joey Marno at
fullback and he just hummus it hard out but it's sick,
you know what I mean? Maybe yeah, So it's going
to have to be individual brilliance from Roger with him
at fullback.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
But have you seen the Tigers team. I think he's
going to get a hat trick.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, I know they are. They are tough to look.
I mean Dream Bullock, great fallback. He's is a good
try scorer, so as the Forbes Ferrari Charlie Stains. But
it's quite a young and inexperienced team on the other
side of the Leger Dream Bullet what is he like
twenty two? Yeah, he's a young fellow. He's the future
of the club. Luke low Lily, yep. If he walked
into the room right now, would you be able to

(04:39):
point him out of three?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Luke Lie absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Never heard of the bloke he's starting on the wing
for them, tap It Solomona and the centers.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
He in a shocker last week.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Stafford Tula is probably the most experienced and then you've
got like, I think this has to be one of
the youngest pairings in the history of the NRL. La'tso
Finer and Lachland Gavin we're both eighteen.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
If they're not seventeen. Yeah, I think that that was
a bit of an issue this week though. Did you
see that Baitman had a blow up with mate Benji?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Is that what happened. He's gone back to the Super Lege.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
So what happened, allegedly according to those NRL three sixty wounds,
is that he came into the changing sheds afterwards Angie
gave him a spray for playing a shit game, and
he said, you never spray the young fellows. You just
put you know, big them up and then you shot
on all the older players. It should all be back
with blah blah blah. They had it out in front
of the whole team and then the very next day

(05:31):
he's signed to the Wigan the WO Wolverhampton Wolves or
the Wigan Warriors or whoever the fuck he's going to
play for. Right over there, he's out of here.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I think John Bateman, this is the second time he's
like packed to sand and gone back to the UK
and now I'm back.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I don't think he's the kind of guy you want
at your club, Like you want a guy like Mitch Barnett.
You don't want a guy who just throws his toys
heart out in front of everyone and signs to the
Super League and dropped the hat.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, but it.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Just continues like a long list of just terrible, terrible
shit that happens at the West targets.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well because who are there and the reason their backline
this week? So shit is because I was so inexperienced,
I should say, is because I think Dewey recently came
back and unresting him.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
It's the seventeenth a c Ellenury or whatever it is. Yeah,
he three.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I think Adam Caesar who was retired at dead and
buried and they dug him up and they chucked the
half back jersey on them. He's serving his second suspension
of the season somehow. And then there was someone else
in the backs as well who's out for whatever reason
it might be, which just means it's just the school
kids are all playing.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
So it's gonna be ready, to be honest, if we
don't run an absolute mark against this team, it's going
to just be well, it will be season over. It
will be we have to win every game we have
to win every game from here on out to guarantee
a spot in the playoffs. But I'll tell you what,
even then, absolutely, it's like the amount of teams that
are sort of vying for those last couple of spots.

(06:56):
But if we don't run out to put fifty on
the Tigers just to undo some of the damage and
that points differential from that Titans.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Game, just to make just for us to feel good.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Just exactly just a little palette cleanser, like, Okay, we've
washed our hands of that. We've absolutely keeped the Tigers ass. Yeah,
let's just shift attention away from us.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, we were talking about because I asked him, like,
obviously you can't look too far ahead in the season
or you'll lose the game directly in front of you.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
But like, what do they do? They do a post
training sessions with it.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I'm sure this is nothing new to anyone who's followed
league for a long time. With a new South Wales
cup boys coming and they try and play as the
wist Tigers give the Warriors something to defend against.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
You're right, And I was like I really wanted to.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Ask, but how back on it, because you know, I
had a tough run of us and questions already, and
I wanted to ask, like, did you blow them out
like when they were playing like the Tigers, did they
just shiit the bed the whole time? Ah?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I reckon, God, that's like you look at imagine being
uppy cottage seal right. He is the only dude of
some decency on the side. Even Isaiah Papale who's got
on there, has just been like just an average back rower.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Now, I would say that the other the only other.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
You know, blue blood, blue chip player in there is
Stefano zoy Kamanu, who at the moment is in a
contract battle.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
That's right, and he's not even playing the great So
it's like they are in all sorts.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
They are in disarray. I'm trying to talk myself into
Warriors third and plus, but I just can't get there
because our back line. I mean I was. I was
talking to Angree on Readiojodaki today. I said, if this
is the first time you've turned into the Warriors for
a few weeks, you may not recognize the back line
at all. Yeah, that's right, Ali Moila, Graham Telfa. And

(08:38):
then you've got Lekajalasima off the bench as well. Once again,
only two forwards on the bench.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Does my head in just Jazz and Jackson Ford Lussex
in there at hockey We barely used him last week.
I just don't understand this. Just put some big fellers
on there. Oh man, the injury awards. Just so, this
is one thing we have to also keep in mind
is we have been decimated by Andrey. Yeah yeah, yeah
the whole season. Yeah, we've just like our combinations are completely.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Wrecked from it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
But to be fair, our run home is decent and
a little cherry on top round twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
But night we got the buy. Yeah, well that's right.
We may not even win that.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
But do you think that Chandelle Harris Tavita kicks this weekend?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yes? You do? Yeah, I agree with you. I think
he does.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
He's a footy player, this kid like he's a he's
a first grade footy player, right. Yeah, he's also a
really good kicker. There was a stat that Minogue found
on our show. He was saying that he probably just
took it from another podcast. I don't know, yeah, I
don't know how much he's pouring through the stats of
the world NRL players. But if the twenty NURL players
have kicked fifty or more all time only sorry, of

(09:47):
all the players, only twenty of them have kicked over
eighty percent, and Chanel Harris Tavita is in that for
his all time goalkicking.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I don't know if he's still in there.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, after the weekend, it's a tough week to get
the Harris Davida is a good kicker.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Take off. Wow, to be fair, after the damage I
determined the weekend. Yeah, well that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
And you really copped it on that video that went
out on ACC's Instagram. It's just great though, because it
was people looking for someone to blame.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Absolutely don't want to blame Chanel.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
And this is the great thing about this sew has
Taveta having an absolute howler is it was so bad
that everyone's just like, I feel sorry for him.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't think it's his fault. I need someone else
to blame.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
And then into me making a lame joke which I
had like a ninety nine percent I was nine nine
percent sure he was going to kick the goal, so
I was like, I can I can get away with this,
and then he didn't and it was one of the
worst things I've ever done.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
It was an all time comment out his curse.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, and it was really it was the first time
I've really had like a barrage of hate on all
these different platforms, but not full hate for anything personal.
Just like, how dare you screw the Warriors over hate?
And I'd like to apologize, but to be fair going
if I.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Went back and did it again, it's pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
That's every piece of like if you keasy that came through,
and every joke about wanting to be on a slope
roof with a gun.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Shooting me, I just cracked. It's just like, I love
the Warriors fans, but it's so good, Well, I hate you. Yeah,
I think he kicks as well. I think Shanell Harris
Deveta to me seems like when he's at his best,
he is like a proper game breaker.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
The first you would have heard of him was he
was the guy who in the I think it was
the key he's under twenties, under nineteens or something. He
did the scorpion kicked oh my god, scored a try
where he dropped the ball behind his back, healed it
over his head and scored a try in a game
of consequence. I so forgot about that. He is a
player that runs off confidence.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Back in his first stint with the Warriors, he's putting
shots on dudes, comes screaming out of the line and
killed dudes on defense.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Who Yeah, I hope he will be kicking. But if
he's not kicking right, and we have to rule Mitch
Barnett out because you interviewed him, he got groin surgery right,
and now he can't kick anymore.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
He said, I got the snipper, Now I can't kick right,
which I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Someone screwed that up at the time.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I thought it. At the time, I thought it was
the sick to me. But it's just giving birth to
a second kit. Well he hasn't you know, he hasn't
added VI sect me. Is what I'm saying, Who do
you think is kicking behind?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I think? Is it not so mighty?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
What?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I assume? So right now? What can't you do? Yeah?
I assume so, But just looking down, I can wait,
he can kick.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I wouldn't have thought so. He'd say about four posts
when he looked up. That's a really good point. I
feel like Dylan Walker could probably kick as well. Yeah,
I Dylan Walker seems like the guy who grabbed the
tea at the end of practice and just drill them.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, like what don't you do it in the game,
just missing around?

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, so that's who I Yeah, I reckon to Mindy
Martin or Dylan Walker. And the reason we're even spitballing
this is because at the weekend we were down to
our fourth choice kicker.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, so things happen. Yeah, I come with the man.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
But look long and short of that, looking at those
two teams as they line up, what do you think
is going to happen here? How do you think this
game plays out? Would you like to know who's the
favorite at the at the tab? Sure, I mean I
know who it is, but sure it is the Warriors. Yeah,
a dollar twenty six?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Correct? What are the Tigers playing? Paying three dollars ninety?
It's good eating?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
No, Look the issue with the lines thirteen and a
half as well. The issue with that's a tricky line.
But to be fair, the Warriors could blow that open
or it could be one of those annoying, really close
games where it shouldn't be. I feel like the Warrior
is going to absolutely do a number on the Tigers
and just reignite everyone's hopes for the rest of the season,
hopefully start up of a win streak, and if Dyllan

(13:41):
and Roger don't combine for three or more tries, I
will eat my hat.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Okay, we might have to look into that for the
med Monday hunch later on in the podcast. I agree
with you as well, the dollar eighty eight for them
to win thirteen plus. I think, yes, we're in a
tough spot. I think the Tigers are in even worse spot. Yeah,
they've got nothing to play for. And like I was
saying Angie earlier on today, I was like, look, if
we can just hunt the Tigers this weekend, then we

(14:09):
just get a week of being like you know, we
get a week of everything's right in the world.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Absolutely, and then we're going into the yep which which
will be tough, but I mean, funk, we could win
two and imagine the fever pitch here in New Zealand.
If we beat the Tigers, then beat the Eels, It'll
be do we dare to dream?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well?

Speaker 3 (14:27):
The good thing about the two teams were about to
play is that both the Wooden spoon contenders. Yeah, whereas
the Tigers have no issue getting wooden spoon because they're
used to it. The Eels, however, were in the Grand
Final two years ago. Yeah, they are playing to not
get the spoon. We then hit the Dolphins, who are humming.
We hit the Seagulls, who are humming. We hit the Bulldogs.
To be fair, Dolphins and Seagulls are sort of humming,

(14:49):
but they are beatable. Their defense, both those teams, their
defense is pretty shoddy, but their attack is awesome.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Shark's beatable.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, and then a buye surely, mate, Like, there's no
roosters in this run.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
There's no Melbourne, there's no Penrith. Yep, there is nothing like,
to be honest. What I'm worried the most about is
the Bulldogs, just because of the defense. But we almost
beat them the other day, you know that, very very close.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah. Yeah, so we should be able to go on it.
And we've said this so many times. Sit for about
six weeks now, but we should be able to go
to a bit of a wind streak here, yeah, and
just get things hessing for the end of the season.
I agree with you. Look the four and twenty four
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(15:34):
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Speaker 2 (15:50):
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Speaker 1 (15:53):
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Speaker 3 (15:58):
Just had a thought, Yeah, and the hell's justin olum
and like David Klemmer and all those kind of guys
at the Tigers have they just completely dropped all their
old boys now and they're just giving up because that's
what it seems like.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Look, a bit of podcast would probably have known that.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, And that.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Wasn't a question to you without preempting it. It's just
I thought, I just had I was like, surely they
have some older players here. What the hell's happened to
them all. But yeah we should pants them. We better
we were.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Pants them all. Right, take quick break. When we come back,
we're going to talk a little bit of super coach. Uh. Look, Chris,
I don't know who to bring in this week. I
want to be completely honest with you.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
And you got Cleary. We're getting down to the point
hered year. So this is the thing.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
The only guaranteed blue chip must buy this week, I
think is Nathan Cleary.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
That's right. So you and I, I think we both brought
him in. I was on your couch when I brought
him in last week. Yeah, so we brought him in
and it was like, shit, he's coming back from the hammy,
but he's had extra time off.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I also had Nico Heines, so I was like, I
don't want to have that money sitting on the bench.
Same here, we did the exact same trade. Heine's out.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Finally Cleary and that is locked in unless he gets
in for the rest of the season. The Panthers, I
think have the easiest or the second easiest run home
for the rest of the season. Panthers Knights, Warriors and
like Sharks.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
So the Panthers play the Dragons this weekend. I think
they might have a buy somewhere, then the Knights, then
the Eels. They do play the Storm at one point.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
What a great game.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
That's going to be going to be an absolute banger. But
I think they play every game as well. Yeah they do, ye, So.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Getting Nathan Clarion is excellent.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
It's a shame Dylan Edwards is out because, to be honest,
if you don't have turbo and I've actually got a
note here that says don't bring turbo and oh really
yeah is it a hot take?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Oh, just just we'll get to that hot take. Just
on the Dylan Edwards thing. They tend to cannibalize each
other's numbers a little bit. That's why Dylan Edwards has
been the highest scoring player this season because Cleary has
been out.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
And yeah, and he does more and he was also
I think the goalkicker. Dylan Edwards.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I don't think it's a I don't think it's a
good thing that he's out for Cleary's numbers, but it's
it's yeah, why don't you want to get turber? He
has had two massive scores in the last couple of weeks.
I believe he is playing this weekend. Then next week
they've got to buy. He's playing the Panthers. This weekend,

(18:12):
he will score fifty and then he has a BUYE
is why you wouldn't bring him in right the following
week after that, you look at him, and then I
think that's when Kaylen pomers because Kaylen Ponger is obviously back.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
He's on the buy this week.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
He's on the buy this week, and then Kaylen Ponger,
I believe plays. He might be playing our team, but
the Panthers, as wow, let me just double chairs playing
the Panthers yet. So you've got this interesting situation where
two of the best fullbacks that aren't Teddy have got
Panthers and a bye wait two weeks for both, and
then just have a geeze at the rest of the
run home as to which one of those two you want,

(18:46):
because I think kp is actually going to be like
six hundred and something thousand, and Tom Turbo is going
to be so expensive. If you don't have Turbo, it's
gonna be hard to get him. It's gonna be hard
to get him. But don't bring him in this week
because he's playing the Panthers. And then there's a buye. Yeah,
if you have to wait, And I've got Pam who's
just found out his feet are broken and has to
have daily injections twenty something needles in the last few days.
It's just like, I can't wish I knew that news

(19:08):
before I brought him in. I mean, cry for me,
but also I've got extremely sorry for him. Just wait
a couple of weeks and have a geeze because then
you've got Ponger to look at. He'll be way cheaper
than Turbo and I will be bringing in Ponger. Yeah,
and just that Turbo against the Panthers and then a
break and then who what happens when Cooler comes back?

(19:29):
It's Cooler going to go back to fullback. And like
there's just so many question marks. Man, No, I think
Turbo is back to fullback full time. But that's a gamble, right,
whereas with Ponger there is no gamble. He is the fullback.
I guess the gamble is Tyson gamble.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
The Tyson gamble here is And I had this Tyson
gamble last week was what if pong is a little
bit flat, his team's not as good, so what if
he struggles and he did last week, I was gutted.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I made the call.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I was like, I'm going Pongo, I'm not going Turbo
and scored forty nine points. Did they play Turbo scored
like fifty something. If I'm scrolling back the Knights they
took on.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
They took on the Broncos and they lost thirty points
to fourteen.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
That's sorry.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
They had a bit of a shitter, but they're run
home the Bronco. Other Knights is really good. The Knights play, yeah, Panthers,
then Tigers, Sharks, Rabbit, Os, Titans, Dolphins, and after their buye,
which is this week, they don't miss another game for
the rest of the season. So it's just it's just
one of those flip of the coin things. Last year,
Ponger was the best player in Super Coach when he

(20:36):
was healthy. Two years before that, Tom Turbo was. So
I'm just saying, don't bring Turbo. And yet wait till
he's had that buy and played the Panthers, and then have.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
A look at way Out too, and then I think, decide,
who's your who do you like watching play more?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Absolutely, that's what I said.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Absolutely, And do you have heaps of Knights in which case,
maybe don't bring Ponger and maybe go for Turbo and
vice versa, and also see which one's got the highest ownership,
because if like, let's say, seventy percent of super coaches
had Turbo, what's the point in bringing him and you're
just joining everyone. You may as well take a punt, yeah,
and bring in the other fellow that, like I may
be only ten percent of people, that's.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right, try and get a word instead of betting for
a draw exactly the other player that's on my radar,
and I've tried to shuffle him around, and I think
it's quite a confusing spot for him as Angus Crichton,
because if you got rid of him over that origin period,
you're probably going to want to get him back.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
But there's no shortage of massive second row options. Well,
that's the thing is. I've looked at mine because I
was like, shit, I need to get critened back. And
then I was like, well do I because I've got
Forefeeda or look and Cator, Well yeah, the big three. Yeah,
I've also got Mitch Barney into my front row, who's
too second row eligible. Yeah, and kam klum a toungy.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
See this is the thing that is stacked. So it's
a massive luxury trade. You would have to have so
many trades up your sleeve to be able to pull
that off. I've got six, I've got eight, and even
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
So even I reckon if you've got ten, then maybe
like downgrade some get some extra cash, bring Criding in
because he will be mean for the rest of the season.
I think they've got one will buy though, But to
be honest, if you've got like any of those five
dudes we just said, there's a couple of other Fellers too,
then you might not need to.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's a very like sideways trade almost. Yeah. I know
Josh Curn's in my second row thing as well.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Now that Max King's gone down, But few more minutes
for him front row.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
You brought him in a while ago. It has paid
dividends for you.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
And that is Mitch Barnett's now one of the highest
paid or Jesus most expensive players and super coach, and
deservedly so, has run and form over the last few games.
They've just been a ton ton, ton, ton ton. He's
taken over from Adam Vanola Blake.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Having said that, Adam Fanil Blake's five hundred and something
at the moment, so you could sneak him back in,
But then you have to keep in mind Round twenty seven,
the final round, the Warriors have a buy, so Mitch
won't be playing and Adam won't be playing, a guy
I was seriously considering because I've still got tire Or
May who just seems to hang in there. He's coming
off the bench this week. He's six hundred and sixty
nine thousand dollars, which is a shitload. I was thinking
about paying aass, so was I. But he's just he

(23:07):
didn't train today, He's got an injury. So it's just
all these things like that, and it's but also I'm like, shit,
with six trades left, do I give a shit about
front row that. I think you save those six trades
for like gun sine wings, fullbacks, second rowers.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I think so too.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I also think, like each week I treat super coach
like what is my opportunity, Like what's my advantage this week?
My advantage of this week is I have a full
team and I even get to pick between kale Or
and Burbo off the bench, Like I've got enough players.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I don't need dudes.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
In My advantage this week is I don't have to trade, bro,
So if I can sit on those, Yeah, and then
next week Nathan Cleary does his hemmy again or something like.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
That, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
And the other good thing too, is if you can
go to round twenty because the season finishes, the overall
season finishes in round twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
But I think he had to head leagues finish up
in round twenty six. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
But if you are going over all, which I am,
I'm kind of trying to do both, Sam, if you
go into those two last weeks with four trades up
your sleep so you can make two trades per week,
there are going to be restings. There are gonna be
all sorts of shenanigans going on. Yeah, so you kind
of want four for the last two weeks, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
So if you think about that and then look at
your trades and you've got enough players to field a
healthy decent and you're just sort of netpecking, it's not
even worth it.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, That's sort of where I'm at the moment. So
I'm not bringing anyone in. So hey, neither of I,
neither of you. I've talked to a couple of people
around the office. Adam and Joel have both told me
that they're not bringing anyone in, but they're also playing
each other in the head to head match up.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
But Adam has got like seventy trades.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
He's going to liven. Yeah, he just doesn't trade, and
he still I admire him. I think they're both foxing, right.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I think they don't want to tell anyone yeah, or
what they're doing, so the other one doesn't find out.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Who do you captain this weekend?

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Then if you're looking down there, I mean, I think
I'm one of a million people who kept in.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Teddy last week and he scored thirty three.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Avoided that just because I was like, oh, everyone's captaining him,
and then like that's sort of where you can take
pot shots and try and catch people up. And I
lost because of it. Yeah, obviously Turbo was the god.
I captain Garrick, who got eighty. I should have captained Cleary,
but first came back. I'm gonna learn my lesson and captainhim.
This week, they're playing the Dragons. Sorry Turbo Cleary Cleary. Yes,

(25:20):
so Nathan Clary Penrith playing the Dragons on Saturday nights,
so I think they might be on Sunday, which means
you've got a free shot at Yeah, so four pm
Sunday they're playing the Dragons. So vice captaining you could
to be fair. Yeah, if you've got Art, yes, he'd
be a good one.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
But the one I'm going for is and he's got
a foot with twenty one needles hanging out of it.
I am going to vice captain Ryan Papenhausen against the
Eels just because the Stormer in such great form. Surely
he can limp over for a hat trick against a
terrible Eels outfit.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
And that's the sort of thing where like one percent
of people might be doing that captain, and so if
it comes off, it's like a pod.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah. But I'm probably gonna be Nathan Cleary for captain. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I was undone last week by uh the person I
was playing in the head to head captain Hammer. Oh.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
I scored one hundred and forty eight points.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
It's such a great game, exactly how many points I
lost by I am with you as well. I think
if you've got nothing clearly in your team, put the
captain on him.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
If you lose, you lose Yeah, put the captain on
him and then chuck a cheeky vice captain on one
of your favorite players he's playing earlier, whether it is
Mitch Barnett or just someone.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
You could feel might have a good game. Ed Blake
Reeks of two tries this weekend.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Absolutely, the forward pack is pathetic for the Tigers. I
love saying all this and then.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
And then we get shirt on probably yeah, but yeah,
put it in on the Warriors there, that could be
a good option.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Just quickly we mentioned the Dolphins are Hammer. Would you
be keen to bring him in?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I did look at it, and basically I can do
like Vowel Holmes because I feel like the Cowboys have
come off the boil quite a bit. Yeah, I could
do Vlle Holmes to Hammer.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
I could, can I before you decide the Dolphins, Yeah,
play the Titans this weekend, Roosters, Warriors, Bulldogs, Melbourne Broncos
Nights to finish. One of the worst finishes to the
season is the Dolphins. I've got one of the hardest paths.
That makes me want to have been a circle bro.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Same And so here's here's what I'm hiring up for
next week. All right? Yeah, it Suckle.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
He's playing the Titans this week. Defensive shit, leave him
in there. Hopefully he scores a double and converts all
the tries and gets a hundred. Trade has asked down
to Isaac Tummel. Oh, yeah, he's three hundred and ninety something. Yeah,
he was around eight hundred thousand at the start of
the season because Nathan Cleary was playing with him and
opening up that right side. Since then, once Nathan Cleary

(27:52):
went down, his scores went down, the toilet fell off
the cliff. He's now back and the Panthers have got
a beautiful run home and he's just like your sixth
option or whatever, and it frees up three hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, I like that similar option, Ronaldo Molly tulleor for
a very similar reason, down to him. Down to him,
you're not going to clear up as much cash. No,
But with Braden Trendle dominating that team, and then the
one last option that was rattling around in my head
is the McLean fellow who's on the wing for the
Panthers at the moment, he is bargain basement. If you
really need to clear clear up some I've already got

(28:24):
I've got Jake is a Jacob tongue, Jake tung or
for the Eels.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
He's bottom dollar, but he sucks, and the Eels suck.
I wish I had held off and gone for him
for McLean. Yeah, because he's a genuine Sure, if you've
got a guy who's worth six hundred thousand, you can
clear up a whole lot of cash and just absolutely
bring in a game like Angus Crichton or something. Yeah
that he looks to have decent like decent jobs. Ish
he should play at least half of the games moving forward.
So I think we're in a grants bring clearian. Figure

(28:50):
out how you can do that with your team. Captain
him as well, don't ever think it.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Don't bother with a massive high rolling prop if you
don't know if one already.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
If you've got a couple of guys punching out fifties,
just leave them.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Probably steer clear of the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Steer clear of the Dolphins hardest after this week, Yeah,
after they play the Titans and.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Then mcleans your cash out option. That's right, and little
tongue all there. If you want an actual playable cash
a little tongue in action God four and twenty. It's
giving you the opportunity to see the Warriors versus the
Bulldogs on August twenty third. We will remain undefeated between
now and then, so you're going to want to go.
Thanks to the Mad Traveler, this includes flights, accommodation, five
hundred dollars cash.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Cash cash to win.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
That takes pie to three two, three six and you
will be in to win all thanks to the four
and twenty Traveler.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Pie.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
You can eat that with one hand or the knife
and Fork's entirely up to you.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
We're going to take one more quick break.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
When we come back, we're going to put together today's
Mad Monday Hunch.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
All right, Chris, you put this one.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Together last week and you mentioned that you had never
in your life hit a three league multi before in
a game.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Fortunately you were still undone.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
You did hit two leagues, which is the most agonizing
way to miss one.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, so it's classic.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
And the worst part was I put so much research
into that multi, but the raid has not being able
to score points in the first half and we always
come out firing, and then we did that thing where
we don't come out firing. Yeah, so that was the
one that led us down was the Warriors to just
win the first half. I didn't even have her who
was going to win overall, because I just don't want
to bet on that anymore. With the Warriors, Yeah, I'm
just done with those, not because I don't believe in them,

(30:26):
because whatever I bet the opposite seems to happen.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Well, this is the problem of betting on or against
the Warriors is you're already so emotionally invested.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
That's right, So bet on try scorer is bit on
fun stuff. Yeah, that's what I like to do. Now,
So you've seen something before and I've immediately forgotten. Oh,
Dellan and Roger are combined for three or more?

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Three or more. I don't think you can do three
or more. Let me, I'm just scrolling through now.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I don't. Oh, maybe you can't. One two, three.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Combined tries duos Dellan and Roger two of us as shiit.
That was paying four dollars fifty not much, but looking
at that team all right, because they think it's going
to happen.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Now, do we multi that up with something else or
do we just leave it? I think we leave We
just leave that, right, and we leave it. See, this
is where they get you. Otherwise it gets too convoluted. Yeah,
and it's just leave that because you've now got two
guys that need to score three tries plus two other things.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
It's just going to be too hard to yeh.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Whereas what we're what we're betting on now is just
a bloody exciting game where our experienced backs are going
to tear through their extremely young and experienced backs.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yes, and am placing their bit right now.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
So for those of immutants at home like to follow
us along, that is dw z or Roger two of
us as shick to score three plus tries between the
two of them, and that is four dollars fifty. If
you want to find that on the TB app go
down to try score a combo markets. It's actually quite
a fun way to bet. There's a million different options
down there. It'll be myself and Hurly tomorrow night commentating

(31:53):
that one. Yeah, I was supposed to be maybe up
and stood down. You've been, stops commentry curs. Oh, of
course I had been and stood down, but due to
insufficient numbers, we've been given a grant from the league.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, that's right to allow me to still play, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Enjoy that, Enjoy the commentary tomorrow live on Skysport nine.
Enjoy your weekend of rugby league and we will be
back on Monday for another episode of the Mad Monday Podcast.
See uh, Australia without Australia without rugby league, He's not Australia.
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