July 18, 2024 • 43 mins
Chris Key joins Manaia Stewart for another episode of Mad Monday!
In this episode, the fellas go over State Of Origin Game 3 and the Blues taking the series with a 14-4 victory (0:00), before discussing the Warriors team for this week's match against the Raiders with several changes after a bunch of injuries (16:06).
Lastly, the guys whip around the SuperCoach Buys/Sells/Holds and unleash another 'TAB Good Hunch' (27:22).
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
I can know the regular league fans and welcome back
into the Mad Monday Podcast, brought to you as always
by four and twenty pies, the perfect at home snack
for watching rugby league until midnight on a Wednesday. My
name is Tino. I saw a Monday AOI. I'm joined
by Adam Vanua Kezy this morning, Kezy? How you How
did you pull up this morning after Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Origin? Yeah, I was all good.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I actually on the way home stopped at Wendy's Oh
and got some nuggies and a little chicken Berger there.
Even after all those Mad Traveler pies that we had. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
I was still hungry. Yeah, and so I ate that
watched something, went to sleep at like one am. Yeah,
and then because I do afternoon radio, I just set
my arm for eight thirty. Oh goodness, goal luxurious. Yeah yeah, sleeper.
(00:50):
How did you pull up? I did the same thing.
Oh really yeah, one hundred percent. But yeah, no, it
was like it was a hell of a game last night.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Origin three.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The when I was saying this this morning on the
Agenda podcast, we were watching it last night right on
my place and the bottom right hand corner because it
was nine not fox no, no, no, yeah, And they had
the clock but it just said one h for the
start of the game. It was funny. Ages were like,
what the hell has scored? Then eventually it flicked over
and it was counting down. Then they switched it and
it was counting back up. Anyway, long short of that
(01:21):
was when I finally found out how long the game
had been going for. It only said eight minutes, and
I was like, yeah, I've been watching this since I
was about ten years old. This game has gone on
forever in a good way. It wasn't dragging, no, it
was just frantic.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It was so much action. Man, it was hictic from
the get go, and.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It was obviously that origin intensity that everyone talks about.
And then the dudes that were leading the charge like
Pat Carrigan, I've never seen him that rived up before.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, and I reckon.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
There are about six high shots in the first sort
of ten minutes that the Rift did not give a
shit about. Whereas when your regular season NRL a slight
slap to the face, these days they're sitting you off
for an HIA and it's just because that's the rules.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Hi A.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Speaking of hs Angus Crichton past and Hi A, it
wasn't as it wasn't his head that got knocked. He
had a horizontal scorpion where he bend his head backwards.
It was a neckershoe. I don't think it was that
is it was a head knock.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, I mean I saw that it was with Reese
Walsh's hip. I believe it was. It was a spinal injury.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But they showed it, and they showed like, let's get
one thing straight. Yes, that was terrible for his spine
and his neck, and he will be in a wheelchair
at some stage, that's right. But also watching that in
slow motion, his eyes rolled back into his head. He
was con cast. But because it's origin, there was an
origin style, hi A, And then just let him come back.
I don't know if you've seen have you ever seen
(02:41):
the picture of the human nervous system and it's been
pulled out of the body and you can see where
all the nerves go. No, the eyes are connected to
the to the brain are looking at That sounds real
messed up because I'm a Rugby League fan and I
need to understand the machinations of the human body.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Chris right, So the eyes, yes.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Are connected to the brain connected to the theme of
the spinal cord, which is what he hit. And it's
basically like remember those toys we pull a little string
and the arms come up and the leagues come out. Yeah,
basically he did that with his spinal cord. As I reckon,
his spinal cord got pulled so hard that it rolled
his eyes into the back of his head right, making
it look like he was concussed. But actually it was
(03:18):
just that his spinal cord had been ripped out, which
is fine, yea. And it came right and he played on.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Rust not only play on, but then get the Man
of the series. He was excellent.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
He was excellent, And I can't believe at the start
of the season there were all these like whispers around
the roosters, you know, wanting to sign David Forfeeda to
replace him and blah blah blah. Meanwhile, towards the end
of the season, Dave Forafete is not even in the
Queensland side and Angus Crichton is Man of the Series.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah. I don't know. I wouldn't. I can't believe it
because at the time he wasn't playing that well.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
He was playing terrible and all those rumors going around
at him and Amsterdam taking mushies, and I.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Saw a good interview with him. Actually, it's worth going
and listen to. I haven't seen that one, you know,
the one you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
It because I thought when I tuned into it, I
was like, Oh, here we go. This is going to
be the straight bat. He's going to bullshit his way
through all this stuff. He didn't, didn't he hasn't he
got bipolar or something.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, he does.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, I don't think that means he didn't go with
the rails at episode right, so he yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know what I mean. I don't think that one
excludes the other. Yeah, but anyway, that's all slander.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You're on it.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
He had an absolutely outstanding season, series, season and season.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, but a biff.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I was saying before the game, we were placing our bets,
and I was like, if there was a way that
I could get on a sin bedding, I would I
couldn't find the market for it. Sure enough, it happened.
Both teams a bit of a brew haha between Daily
Cheer Evans and Jerome Lewe aka both team's most annoying players. Yeah, well,
Daily Cheery Evans was into everything last night. He's like,
(04:52):
I have so much respect and rightly so for Daily
Cheer Evans. He's a phenomenal player who's like his career
is insane. I'd just still be playing Origin at forty
three years old exactly. He's actually forty four. And he's
such a shit stirer though, but not to the extent
that Jerome Luay is. No, he's smart about it, whereas
(05:12):
Jerome Lewie, who's and by the way, I'm a New
South Wales fan, he's just a cock.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well he is. I love New south Wales. I like
it if Jerome Lewis as a play.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
He's such a good player. He literally sit up there
try for Bradman Beers. Yeah, he just blew the game
wide open, little wide open. That he's the main reason
that New South Wales won that game. You know, I
would argue that he was almost man of the match.
By the way, Dylan Eddwood's got that I got paid
out sweet. Oh yes, But I just don't like him.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
No, he is intensely unlikable.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I know, I like and you don't have to be loved,
but he almost goes out of his way to make
people hate his guards. Some people need it. I think
he could be one of those people who needs to
be racked up.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's just yeah, okaya vibe.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, and he's like, look maybe if I grow my
hero out real long, it'll make people hate me and
I need that fuel. Yeah right, okay to carry on.
So yeah, that sparked a bit of an all in
brew haha. No punches thrown, but it was a real
chippy game and I've just seen this afternoon that there's
been two suspensions handed out for that. One was for
Cam Murray because he comes streaking down the sideline to
(06:15):
get involved, and the other one was for Hamali Lakwasu,
who was in a suit on the weekend on the
bench by the way.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Ola quit. It's a great game from him.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
We were cracking up twice because first of all, they
are in the Harddle New South Wales and Hudle like
geeting themselves up. He's just in the background eating a
bray burd yeah in a suit, yeah, with a big
grit on his face. If you're not playing, I'd probably
cut the snacks out, you know, someone else might need that.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Just hands in his pockets eating it at apple. Yeah.
So funny and Mitch Barnett a tremendous game. We'll get
into his.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Stats and that later on. In fact, we won't. I
haven't pulled any stats, but he played really well.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Just gonna say, shit, it was was I supposed to
bring no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Oh, you didn't know, but he was. And we've been
saying this for the longest time. He's a State of
Origin player. He was going around the lock geeing everyone up.
He made a point of going over to Homoliolokuatu and
geing him up while he was standing in a suit
with one hand in his pocket and the other one
eating a free burn. Shout out to all onus, Morris
set and I think that that just showed the mana
(07:15):
of Mitch. But that Mitch Monner. And this is remember
when he was away and we got do you remember
this an historic l chucked on us by the Titans? Yes,
sixty sixty six. He wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, we were saying the man, yeah he is, so
the guy that fires us all up.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, so he is crucial and will he turn it
around tomorrow night against the Raiders, that's the big question. Well,
he's named, we were saying, we were just saying this
before the podcast. We're like I said, will neither him
nor Capeal have been named, despite the fact that I
copied and pasted the team listening to our rundown and
they're both on there. They're both on there. They've both
been named, But I mean, do you think that they'll start.
(07:54):
They've both been named to start, but they both played
massive minutes and I don't know if you saw Mitch
Barnett out there, he was holding back. No, no, he
was being a psycho, which I absolutely loved. My theor
in we'll get into the Warriors shortly is that this
is do or die for the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
We have to win this game. It's the Raiders. Like.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
If he doesn't play this game, yeah, I think he'll
just play. He'll play fifty minutes in the front row.
He's named it PROP, but usually he goes from Prop
to back row and then Ford like they do some
weird stuff there. I think he'll just play the prop
rotation minutes hopefully and hopefully a few lighter a bit
of a lighter load. Yeah, you're right, we'll get to it.
He's not a guy though that can do a lighter load.
He'll say, yeah, yeah, I'll do a lighter load.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Then he won't. Yeah, he'll go helpful with it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Ridiculous pace we mentioned the final score line was actually
fourteen to four, and at halftime it was two all,
which I don't think.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Anyone had in their in their malties.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You tell me that it's going to be two all
at halftime, then I'll say, oh, that sounds boring. It
wasn't boring, No, it was so great. It was just
high intensity. The scuffles that were breaking out were ridiculous.
It was like eight in the first half. The ref
was in the middle of one. As we said, one
was on the sideline. But by the way, just on
that sideline one. Both Cam Murray and all the quiet
too are facing two games on the sideline bass they
(09:02):
can challenge it, and then got three and they probably
would end up being three. So yeah, i'd reckon it
will be two games. But anytime you're facing a charge
and you weren't playing, just copy it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Getting sent from the field with a suit on that
you weren't on.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, But to be honest and daily, Cherry Errands was
all fired up about some shit, you know, towards the
end there about how he came off the field. That
should have been a penal about KM Murray, I think, yeah,
but I don't think that would have made much of
a difference. I mean, if Bradman Best's first two breaks
even into it in one try, and if Stephen Crichton
(09:38):
didn't drop the ball over the trail and it would
have been an absolute hiding, it.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Could have been worse. And then fourteen points to four
to the Blues.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And I think basically what happened was it was so
hectic for an hour of that match that in the
last twenty minutes it was going to blow open one
way or the other. Yeah, And unfortunately for the Maroons
it was all one way traffic. For the Blues, it
happened to coincide with Kaylee and Ponger coming onto the field. Yeah,
that was wasn't his fault. I don't think it's Kaylen
(10:04):
pong as well. I think if you're gonna have him
the hammer and Reese Walsh out there, like those guys
all are attacking phenomenons. Yeah, defensively the okay, you know,
like it said, three small bodies that you're bringing on
and you're anticipating out offensing.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, but to be honest, and the first half showed
it. It was all about Deet.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
There was no offense that gave me. Reese Welsh just
showed why he wasn't the fullback that we needed at
the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
It was because, yeah, he's mean. He's a flat track bully.
When you're up by forty points, he carving dudes up.
He's throwing skucky harbor Bridge passes. He's slicing dudes up
out of nowhere. That's right when you're down in the shit.
In game three Origin Sun Gorp made against mate, State
against State, He's probably not what you needed back there
because that much that last Mitch Moses try, he sort
(10:51):
of jagged back on the inside and then it was
just a little swerve past Reese Walsh who's just.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Clutching his shadow.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It was a ship try, Like, yeah, it was cool
because and Mitch Moses's running game is awesome, but that's cool.
It wasn't a State of Origin decider at Suncrp. No.
The Bradman best one was that was sick and he
watching him and he's been playing excellent for the Knights,
but watching him, I was like, this guy's going to
be I reckon next year. He's going to be like
one of those guys in Super Coach you have to have.
(11:19):
He is running so fast and he is so big
and strong.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, massive meat.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
He had tremendous got legged at it, amazing cut on
his lip that reminded me of I don't know if
you're familiar with Robbie Lawler from the UFC, but he
had a similar thing where he won a fight but
had a split in his lip and when he celebrated
and like let out a row, it's split all the
way out to his nose. That's basically what was happening
to Bradman Best last night. And I think he liked it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I think he was like, these photos are going to
live forever. I'll have these printed, you know, Yeah, They'll
be on posters on my wall. And I think that
he's bought himself another three years of origin. But just
by not only scoring that try, but even if he hadn't,
just bullocking runs and a ripped lip for the state
that I think that locks him in. So I agree,
(12:10):
or Who's who's the other center for Chrichton shit? Because
I'm like, but you've gotta have a trail in there.
I think you figure it out with Bredman mess. Maybe
he hadn't, And like you're right about that photo, Like
his photo of him with the split lip is the
same as Trump with the cut here with the shot ere. Yeah,
that's going to be on his poster for years and
that yeah, because he just looked insane.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, it was badass.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It also is going to massively shift the power dynamics
in the changing rooms at Newcastle because the two defenders
that he beat with Kayln Ponger and also Origin Gags,
Origin Gags who got skinned a couple of times. And
just let him let him just play for Newcastle, That's
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I reckon other way, let him just play.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
For He's like, he's not Origin Gags anymore. He's he's
getting older, you know what I mean? See this and
this is the thing. Looking back at the game now,
I'm like, of course they lost Harry Grant's got a
sternam injury. There was no months even like Xavier Coats
wasn't there. Felice Caafusi started, They had a platoon swap
at their front row.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That was weird.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
All of the Beach players came on to start and
I I read that at the time as I think
this is Billy Slater trying to play mind games where
he's named a different front row to try and fuck with. Yeah,
New South Wales, I reckon, that's what he was doing.
And I think anytime you're resorting to that kind of stuff,
that's some New South Wales shit. Yeah, you're already on
the you're already on the back foot.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Queensland are just like usually like, oh, we don't care
what you're doing. We're just going to do about what
we're doing.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, whereas Billy quite Yeah, it was so weird by
the way, and CAFUSI had a mean game and he's
definitely an origin player, oh for sure. But yeah, that
was it was really random.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Are we watching the descent of a man into madness?
After one game? A game?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The first game he came in and he was so calm,
coockture of himself. He's like, yeah, no, we're gonna work.
Second game, he starts argue with the media. No, I
didn't say that. I didn't say this, that this should
have been a head eye, this shouldn't have been a
send off. Blah blah blah blah blah. Game three, he's
fucking mad manning at mad Max and with all the
different players and switching dudes around as he's like that
(14:13):
always sunny Philadelphia meme. Yeah of Pepper silver or whatever
it's called, with all the strings and things in the corkboard.
Well he's lost it. What I think he has lost
is well, just the state of origin. State of origin
by a massive margin. And that's only the thirdy of
a decider in sun Corp. The New South Wales is
(14:34):
once so that's bloody excellent. But I think that whole hoodoo,
at least for a week while of winning a decider
in sun Corp and going to sun Corp New South
Wales with the team that they've put together and the
way they've been playing and the points they left out there,
I think it's unpredicting and I'm a New South Wales
fan that for the next few years it's.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh shit, yeah, like the next three years three.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Years, get on the futures markets on the TV. I'm
going to.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
But other other than it was it was well worth
staying up on a Wednesday night to watch that. There
was a tremendous game of State of Origin fortball. It
was tight right up until about the last ten to
fifteen minutes. It was frantic, like you said, two all
at halftime, but at entertaining, Yeah, entertaining to all.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Most all of my bits. But it was well worth it.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, so mine I put I think I put ten
bucks on New South Wales to when, which they did,
and then I put three bucks or something on Dylan
Edwards to get mad of the match. And because it
was a tight game. This is a good thing to
keep in mind going forward. Whenever you can think there's
going to be a tight game, whoever gets the most
meters is just gonna get mad of the match.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, and it was Dylan Edwards. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So I didn't even realize he got mad of the
match until this morning. I woke up and checked it.
I was like, oh shit, he got mad at the match. Yeah,
two hundred and eighty three meters or something. It would
have been Bradman best if he didn't drop those two
balls because he was insane.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
But yeah, so that's the f and doubt just the
guy with the most meters man of the match. That's
a great fitting strategy.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, I quite like that. All right. We talked about
whether Cape I was gonna play.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
We talked about whether Mitch Barnett is going to play,
where we're going to take a quick break, come back
and digest an interesting Warriors teamless or I will get
to the Mitch Barnett and the Kirk cape well of
it all in just a sec.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But I wanted to start with tor Who Harris.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It came out earlier this week that he's out for
the rest of the season after electing to take risk surgery.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He's got a bug risk. I think it's been plaguing
him for a while.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
He's been out and out and now he's going to
be out for the rest of the season. He is
our captain. How big a blow is it losing tor
Who Harris for the rest of the season. Well, it's
a huge blow, isn't it. I mean, tour Who's been
that one constant throughout years of turmoil at the Warriors.
You can always rely on him. I don't think it's
as much of a loss as it was at the beginning.
It would have been at the beginning of the season. Yeah,
(16:45):
I almost feel like Mitch Barnett's the captain now. Yeah,
oh yeah, he's Whether they name him as the captain
or not Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
He's like, look at me, look at me. I'm the
captain now.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So I still I loved the way we had Mitch
Barnett and add for Noil Blake and then or even
Jackson Ford and then Toyho would come on after twenty
minutes and just play like a solid forty five in
the middle there.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I loved that.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I think his sort of his play at first receiver there,
in his distribution and stuff is earliant. So that's going
to be a huge loss, and to be honest, at
this point in the season where it's must win footy
for us, it is a bit of a loss. But
I'm not as depressed as I would have been if
it happened at the start of the season. If I'm
thinking silver Linings, I think we've all really enjoyed the
impact that Dylan Walker's had around being much quicker off
(17:31):
the line, Like he's a very different player. He's high
energies and absolutely everything. So now all of a sudden,
you go from Sean Johnson to mighty Martin Tory who Harris,
So now you've got Chanell Harris Tavita there and they've
got Dylan Walker in there. I think it could potentially
speed our team up quite a bit. The other big
change that we've made obviously, Charms is still out, so
(17:53):
that means Tane Tupick he comes in at fallback. And
then also Marcelo Montoya has a groin complaint, so he's out.
He's sort of week to week, which brings Ali Laa
Taua and to center and Roger two of us a
check onto the wing. We've been calling for him to
be swapped out of center for.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Quite a while. We all wanted him to go back
to fullback. I love this. He's now on the wing.
Yet I love Leer Tower. He's a beast, you know,
just on layer towel quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
They love him too because every piece of media that
came out before the season, he was in it. So
I think they thought he was going to be a
bigger part of the season than he has been. And
then yeah, and because he was injured, I think, but
also like they need the goal kicking of Adam Pompey
and stuff as well, So there's been these things like
that that has like forced their hands. But I'm just
(18:43):
going I think the club really like him. Yeah, absolutely,
he's the goods. He's one of those dudes we don't
want to let go because he'll go to the Cowboys
or the Panthers or something and become great. I love
Roger on the left side and to Mighty Martin at seven.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Lock it in the rest of the season. You don't
think Sean will come back? Nah, he will.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
And if we're going to do some real damage in
the postseason, we need Sean Johnson. But I just love
the way to Mighty Martin's playing.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I just yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And his whole storyline of having to retire because of
a brain bleed, playing back home and Tao Mutsu or
wherever from the White Cut he's from.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, And then now he's back at the Warriors replacing
Sean Johnson and just having an absolute barnstorming season. And
the photo that he posted on his Instagram last week
of even on the back of a horse that he's
bringing a peg out of the bush. And I've been
saying this all week, and I assume I don't think
I've ever believed in something as strongly as I believe
(19:38):
in this. So Mighty Martin is the man every key
he bloke thinks he is. He's who I think I am.
I don't even think i'm him. I wish I thought
I was him. You know, when your confidence meter is full,
and you're like, you know what, I'll make sure all
right that he is who you think you are when
your confidence meter is full, because the annoying thing about
(19:59):
that is like he can ride a horse, which is just
taps into like, yeah, rear, something deep within every human. Yes,
that's that freedom, mastery of beasts, the mastery of a beast.
He did right, and he uses it to claim the
lives of other beasts.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's right. He killed the boar.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
He's now put that on the horse, his mastery over
that beast. He's getting food for his family.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And on Saturday he's going to go play half back
for the Warriors, and Maniah, he's a fucking smoke show,
and he's a smoke show. It's bad running. It's bad running. Shit.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
But there was a movie character, yeah, and it lived
the life that to Mighty Martin lives.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
You'd be like, that's bullshit. Yeah, no one has all
of that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
It's like everyone looks normal and everyone's just like peasants.
And then this one main character walks down and he
looks like Jason mamore. Yeah, they spent the casting budget
on one dude. Everyone else is just from the town
and they're getting paid in sandwiches or whatever, and they
spent they splashed out on bread pet for the starring
role in this movie.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
That's why everyone else just looks like way Digger and Lass.
And then he comes through and you're like, oh, fuck off, you.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Killed that massive airs bore and then rode it out
on the back of your horse.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You're a you're a huge omen bit guy.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, that's a great omen He went out over the
weekend over the by.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Did that took that photo? Yeah? Where is that in place? Okay,
I don't mind. It's Mighty Martin anytime? Is that what you? Yeah,
I'm thinking that were running into that.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
He's going to go in and get a going to
bring a pig back for the family. Anything else on
the team list obviously Cape War and Mitch Barnett named
I think you have to name them.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, I'm questionable about Cape War.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I mean, he's been kind of not shit, but he's
just been middle of the road all season. He was
middle of the road for Queensland and now two days
later he has to come and start in the back row.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I feel like he might go to the bench or
something like. Yeah, this is initially what I thought as well.
It's actually short and it's the worst time for a turnaround.
I've talked to White A corporate about this, about backing
up from Origin's you'd rather do it the day after
straight away or like five days later. But that second day, yeah,
(22:15):
is the toughest, like getting out of bed, Like getting
out of bed in the morning on tomorrow morning for
these warriors, for Cape and Barnet, they're gonna wake up.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh fuck it out.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
What am I going to do now between now and
the first whistle? Crying well, putting on his warriors? Yeah,
I mean, look, don't get up for it, because this
is what they do. This is who they are. They
are State of Origin players. But like, but you'd still
be like as shit. It was hard getting up out
of bed after Game three for me, just purely based
on how frantic it was to watch. But you backed
(22:46):
up because you're a State of Origin broadcast that's right.
And I'm here doing a pod for the backbones out
there like that the turn backbone, my wife. Look, that's
my only sort of issue with the teams. Great that
to see matat start as well, also having Liqua Hala
Siema on the bench again, I just love this and
tag into a picky static feelback. I just love these
(23:07):
young fellas. When they're given opportunities, they shine. Yeah, so
I want to see more of that. Look at Halo
seem a dear friend of the podcast. He's been on
the Mad Monday podcast before.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Turning down to Helenstein's with us him and Tennis Stoles
Smith and Chance Nickel clock Stead, I've got a flaming
hot take about our matchup this weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
It is against the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Look at the teamless fogey back which is huge for them, huge, huge, huge,
And for the Raiders that's huge, huge, just properly Starling
he's huge, that's the who. Jenny Levo, he's huge. Rapunner,
Zach Asking huge, k Weeks, Jordan up on a team more. Anyway,
my flaming hot take is last week last year, rather
(23:50):
when the Warriors the turning point in their season from
when it was just like, oh, they've won a couple
of games, So I hang on, the Warriors are legit here,
I can pinpoint it. I can as well I'm not
what you gonna say. It is when Ricky Stewart rested
Jared Kroker ahead of his three hundredth game so that
he could play him at home against the Warriors to
win the three hundredth game, and we humped them into
(24:14):
the core of the earth. We smashed the Raiders at home,
happy three hundredth game, Jared Krokers.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
They took on, they drawn the extra zero on the
thirty meter line.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Fuck off. We wasted them. We wasted them. I think
we then wasted the Sharks after that. Only a few
weeks later we wasted the Raiders again and that was
the start of our run home into the finals. It
was when the turning point in our season when people
are like, oh shit, these Warriors are for real. Yeah,
I think it happens again. Yeah, I think it'll be closer.
I don't think it's going to be Jared Croker's three
(24:44):
hundred pumping. No, I think it'll be a close game.
But I and historically watching Raiders v. Warriors the last
few years, I've always been such great matchups, you know,
like Sewann Johnson dropped goals to win, or like them
with a Ford part try to win that shouldn't have
been allowed. Yeah, it's been great, and we beat I
think in christ Church earlier this year.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I think I was gonna get it done.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But I know that both teams are in a very
similar situation where they've had kind of middle of the
road seasons. Yeah, and they are now fighting for that
sort of number eight spot on the ladder. Yeah, whoever
loses this game's done for the season.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Wow. I mean that's actually not that mathematically. Mathematically sure,
that's the case.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I generally like in the NBA, I always say bet
on the team that's facing elimination if the other team isn't.
I'm just going to try and bring up the NRL
table right now to see how screwed they are, because
I'm well aware of our screwed we are.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, they're directly above us on twenty points. We're on nineteen. Yeah,
see they have a worse point differential.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
So whoever wins this we can leap frog then, but
only into like tenth spot. See how annoying is it
that draw against Manly that we're on nineteen.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
We should be on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That is so annoying, Yeah, which would put us in
tenth with a chance to crack the eight with this weekend.
That's right, a little bit, nigli. It has come back
to bite us and the ass. I think we win
this one. I think Mitch and Kpe well play, and
I think that Arts on.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
The wing will be an absolute revelation.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
That I agree he's gonna I reckon like Arts because
every set we start our sets with the wingers and
the outside backs hitting it up.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
He's going to get twice as much ball as he
was at center. Well, Webster said that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think someone asked him about it and he goes, well,
the wingers get their hands on the ball more than
the centers do these.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Days, so that correct, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, so he's going to have like twenty something head
ups over two hundred meters.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
We're kicking for him.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
He's going to have the end of the season that
Zach Lomax has had to start the season huge switching
from center to.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Wing to wing. And also we give him the goal kicking.
I'm really excited. I'm really excited for it. By the way,
shout out to Zach Lomax's goal kicking instead of origin.
It was great. He was excellence. All Right, We're gonna
take one more quick break.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
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So text Pie to three two three six and you
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a super coach Chris for your Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Were your ass? For your ass?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
There's only get a couple of hours before I inevitably
forget that I've undone my changes and then leave my
team screwed for the week, which I've done a couple
of weeks. We all sort of fell off for me
a couple of weeks ago by bringing Hines in a
week early. I use my last boost to doctor my
books to bring him in, so of course he immediately
broke his league. The buys the holds the sales this week?
(27:54):
Is it too early to buy? Nathan Cleary. I think
it depends on your trades and how many warm bodies you've.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Got this week. Decent big thing, decent warm bodies. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Just finding out today that Homoloola Kuatu's out, that's changed
my plans completely. I now have Yeah, I've got like
I have Luke Brook. Still, I didn't want to play them,
but now I'm going to have to. And so if
I don't bring in Nathan Cleary this week for me,
then I'm going to have a pretty shocking team this week.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You mean this week? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Right, because the big thing about Nathan Cleary obviously has
just come back from a second injury spell this year
with a hamstring injury.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I'm sure they've been very cautious about it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
They have.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
They've given him an extra I think three weeks they
were saying.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, and there's every chance that he could get an
early shower this this weekend. You know, they mainly play
in fifty sixty minutes if the Panthers are up big.
Oh it's the Dolphins too. I think it's the Dolphins. Oh,
the internet here is so shit. Internet, it is shit.
I can tell you that it is the Dolphins on Sunday.
So I mean they could get up, although defensively at
the moment the Dolphins, I can see the Panthers really
(29:01):
doing a number on them. It depends also how many
origin players are named for Panthers.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, and also for Dolphins. Yeah, Pelice Cafusi's name for
the Dolphins, it's all on Hammer as well. Yeah. True.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I mean not that Trey follow hasn't got the job
done for them so far, but yeah, I just think
the other part of it, for clear is his break
even is at one hundred and eighty one. He's not
going to get that. So even if he scores one hundred,
I think I heard someone who knows more about Supercoach
to me say that he's still going to lose one
hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, that's right. So you're better off if you can
afford it to wait till next week.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
It depends though, because he might not get one hundred
and eighty, right, but he might score a hundred, that's right,
And then that's one hundred points. Well, let's say you've
got your current halfback scores fifty. That's fifty points you've
missed out on with what's seven weeks ago in the
Super Coach or sex if you're doing a head.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
To head league.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
So there's one clear cut situation I think that you
bring clearly in, and it's if you're low on trade,
so you don't have any boots, which I think is
most people around this. I'm low on trades, but I
had a boost. Do you have Nico Hines? Yes, I
had him.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It had him.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I had him this week and I have already made
my trades. I've gone straight from him to Nathan Cleary
because I don't have the trades all the time to
miss around here and wait for people to drop cash. Yeah,
And so what I was gonna do was like I
was thinking about, do I try to do like a
Jaden Campbell thing and then swap Dylan Brown to him
next week? Blah blah blah. I don't have the trades
for that shit. I need to be bringing in dudes.
(30:29):
I was staying in my team for the rest of
the season.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
It's rocks and diamonds time. It's yeah, knough out.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, middle of the road guys drop them down to
bottom dollar or not even playing failers, bring in your
Nathan Cleary's. Like I was at your place last night
when I actually made I used my last boost a
sneaky because when I was giving you all those tips
about supercoach, yeah you did actually mention Reid Marni and
then I looked at him. I was like, actually, he's
super cheap, super cheap water. And so I had the
(30:56):
last two weeks, I've had Jeremy Marshall King injured, Dune
Heines injured, done for the season, so it's almost yeah
and a half a metal sitting on your bench exactly.
So I had to get a hooker, and I had
to get a halfback. So I've gone Nathan Cleary, He's
locked in for the rest of the season and Read
Money as my hooker because Harry Grant, who's about the
same price as he's got the Stirnam injury. He didn't
look that great in Origin. I'm just like Nap, so
(31:19):
Read Money. I brought in Nathan Cleary, and I had
enough money left over to finally upgrade my stupid Newcastle
fullback Flitcher sharp if if Sharp minor, and I didn't
have enough money to go to Turbo. I didn't have
enough money or time to wait for pomer till probably
probably next week. But next week he plays the Panthers
(31:40):
and then there's a buy or something like the Knights
have got a kind of a shit yeah that is
next few games. So I was like, I could wait
for pomer in a few games and just sort of
like set it out, but I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I'm going to with the money I had available.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Ryan Pappenhausen, Yeah, was the guy I could afford to
bring in. He's kind of a pod at the stage
as well a point of difference. I don't think too
many people have got him, so I just locked him
and for the rest of the season. He's the fullback
for one of the best teams in the NRL. You know,
I'll do you one better. He's the fullback for the
best team in the NRL, brus Storm Pebby. Oh that
(32:15):
top of the table, top of the table. Yeah, yeah, true,
So I like it. I think Peppy's a great pod play.
At worst, he's about ninety percent of what you were
going to get from Kaylen Ponger or yeah, and I
don't have to trade and muck around and wait, you know,
it's the time to just get the guns now. And yeah,
so I'm some of that. I still had Trel and
I had Nico Hines. It's a lot of cash. It's
(32:37):
a lot of cash. So I've been Nico Heines to
Nathan Cleary. I don't care that he's going to lose
one hundred K this weekend because I'm not trading him out.
You have traded in Nathan Cleary. I don't care what
numbers next to him. You've got the best player in
the NRL on the best team. Yeah, it's not like
I'm going to trade them for Joey John's in a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
No, exactly. Yeah. And then at fullback, it's basically fullback roulette.
Who do you want to go with? I looked that Treboyevitch,
I looked at Ponger. I looked at Ponger.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I looked at Trabovich, stared them both in the eye,
and I said, I can't trust your hammies.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Tom. I'm sorry. I'm going Ponger. So you you've brought
in Ponger. I've brought in Ponger.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
He's playing the Broncos, who I just saw Pat Gerrigan
in a moonboot by the way after Origin three, So
they that's real trouble for them.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So then he's got the buy. Then the Panther.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Sorry I got that wrong, but KP last season was
the best player in Super Coach when he was healthy.
Like Necho overall was, KP was a freak. I would
have gone Ponger if I could somehow how have swung it,
but I couldn't, so like it's just forced my hand
to go Pappenhausen. But I think Ponger is the best option.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So then the other.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Question that I have for you is, since homoi Olikwatz
is out for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Is that enough for you to drop him? Nah? You
have Crichton. No, you don't consider that. Do you know
who I've got? I've got for.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Feeder cuts O and Coloma Tungi, who's my guy from
the Rabbit O's and a front row slash to our
if God named Mitch Barnett sitting up at front row.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah right.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
So, to be honest, the only guy I would bring
in because I've got two nuffs and two r ref
and I need to make one of them a player.
The only guy I would bring in, And I can't
believe I'm saying his name to beat a Punky Jr.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I was just gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Allow me a few would just a couple of moments
to blow my own horn. But I brought him in
about a month ago when he was first named. That
is such a mania play. That is such a mania play.
He is the exact kind of player on one of
my fantasy team. Yeah, he skipped out on this team
last year to go and fight Trad's and the boxing ring. Yeah,
got dusted up and then came back to the NRLs.
(34:43):
I'll have him, thinks, But mate, Wayne Bennett, he gets
the bess out of it.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
He does get the best out of there.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
And he looked great and the week ninety he scored
a try, but he was offloading, he was busting tackles.
He looks like someone's turned the size fader up while
creating a character. He's way bigger than all the other characters.
Looks like a guy I used to play in the
NRL by the name of Tavita Pugay Junior. True, and
he is absolutely tremendous. Yeah, I'm the same my halves.
(35:08):
I think halves everyone's but it's just been so squarely
because for the last like four or five years, it's
just been God Niko Hines and very clear and never
think about it again, you go Munster in the halves.
Have you got on five eight Brown and Galvin? Oh,
you've got to Mighty I've got Tomurdy Martin.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Allow me to take another five minutes here just to
blow my own horn. But I brought to Mighty Martin
and months ago when he was like three hundred, or
he was about three hundred, when everyone was getting Galvin. Yeah,
and I've got Galvin. When they take the low road,
we go high.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And I went to Mighty Martin.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I see him riding around town with the girl I love,
and I'm like, fuck, you get him my super coach day.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
But if back then someone had said Dereck and to
Mighty Martin or average like ninety every time he plays
halfback for the Wars, only one person on God's Green Earth,
he would have said, yes, you're sitting across from him.
I thought he would have said yes man. He wouldn't
have even thought there that No, probably not bro. So
that is a huge plan. I wish i'd done it
(36:08):
as well, because I've just got Dylan Brown, who's just
tuning out fifties and sixties.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I got him that he's boring. The's a mighty Martin thing.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'm gonna be honest, I tried to trade him out
that three weeks, like, surely he can't keep this up. Yeah,
it's like this is going to be the top. This
is going to be the top. This is going to
be the top. I'm like a crypto trader in the halves.
They're so funny. But yeah, so, I think at this
point in the season, I so, I've made my trades
for this week.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I now have eight remaining no boosts. Where are you at?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I used my last boost read Marney, Nathan Cleary and Pappenhausen.
I have got six remaining.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
So, I think at this point of the season, basically
you kind of have to make your picks for the
rest of the season. You are shaping your team into
what it's going to look like for the rest of
the season. Now, I think you don't have any unless
you've got like sixteen trades left. You don't have time
to be chopping and changing dudes to try and make
cash anymore. That's right, those days are over. I also
(37:06):
with six trades, if you like me, with six trades,
can I actually justify bringing in ta Vita pun I
Junior With one of my last six trades, because what's
going to happen is if you get into the finals
of your head to head, which I still can't wrap
my head around how this works.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Someone's going to get injured.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
You're going to be fucked and Taveta punk I Junior
is going to be sitting on your beit.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Why did I use that trade? That's right, so I
wouldn't know. The time to get on TPJA was month
about a month ago, which is just so stupid.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, so I think with the six and with the
what's seven weeks of the Narl left, I am not
making any trades unless I'm forced too.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
From here on out. This is my team.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
You don't really have a choice, so I am The
one other thing that I had jotted down here is
Moses came out this morning. Mitch Moses did his bicep
last night. Oh yes, so he will be done. So
I don't know how many people got on Mitch Moses.
I'm sure a few did when he came back. He
looked insane. When he came back did he looked excellent?
So he's a clear drop. Yeah, that might be how
(38:06):
you get to cleary. What impact that hairs on Dylan Brown.
I don't know, but they've got to buy this week,
so and that done for the season, so who gives
a shit? Also huge one Dylan Edwards pc allen jury
after Origin, so he could have also been a pod
fallback to have for the run home best fullback, one
of the pretty has been the best fullback in one
of the best.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Players this season.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, so he could be out for two to four
weeks if it's a moderate sprain. That's according to the
nar ol physio. All right, Yeah, I think the my
key takeaway from this week is you've just got to
get your team sussed for the rest of it and
then keep five or six trades up your sleeve just
for injuries. Don't touch them, don't jump on someone with
a low brake, even there's no point at this point
(38:48):
in the season. Just you know, you're just got to
cover your own ass. Yeah, and oh notugh, he's just quickly.
I don't want to go too long in this podcast,
but to explain how enough he works, because I know
there's a lot of first season on here. How it
works is when people say Nafi and enough he is
a player that doesn't play and bottom dollar, bottom dollar
and Basically, what you're doing is you are trading. Say
(39:11):
you've got a dude who's worth like four hundred or
three hundred K, and he's going to get you like
twenty points. Trade him out to a player that doesn't play.
Save that one hundred k for to upgrade one of
your other dudes into a into a good player.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
And just so you're aware, I've got three enoughs on
my team right now, I.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Have one two, I've got two, yeah, so two three nups.
That's about right.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
And later in the season, if you like, if someone
gets injured, you need to free up some cash to upgrade.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Just knoff someone out, someone else out. But you don't
want too many because you'll get screwed over at the end.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
And the one trick that I have for you for
enough is look for dual position. There's not a whole
lot of them. You've probably got them in your team.
Villiami Fafita is one of the most owned players in Super.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Coach hasn't touched the fucking park this year. I've got
him in my team. Everyone does.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
It's because he's second front row eligible, so you can
use him to swap your players around and the other
one is Jid Cartwright, who everyone else has got from
the Nights because he's second row cinder. Yes, Miles Martin
another one from the Knights front row, second row as well.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
It's quite a popular one.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
But yeah, so I'll probably end up having Jim cart
right at some stage though, Just quickly, captains, are you
just gonna lock in Titty?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
So the Roosters are great matchup. By the way, Saturday night,
the Roosters are playing the Melbourne Storm. Where is the
oh there, it is there nine point thirty Amy Parks.
So that's Saturday night, and then the Panthers are playing
Sunday four in the afternoon. So I'm going to vice
Captain Teddy and then Captain Nathan Cleary fully intending. Because
(40:43):
it's like a small buy around and there are few
teams out, I've got pretty much a free shot at
the loop anyway. Yeah, which you probably won't is which
I'll probably won't use and we'll forget about.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
But yeah, so Titty and Clear, even though it's his
first game.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Back, I'm stilling Clear Loop, sit and forget with Titty
go well this weekend. Make sure sure if you're listening
to this podcast on the Thursday. Make sure you sit
your team, because the amount of times people sit their
team then reverse their trades and blah blah blah, you
could fuck yourself. Just before we go, we need to
put together the Mad Monday hunch. Now, as someone who
had a couple of bits last night, I've handed the
(41:16):
reins over to you for the hunch this weekend.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Chris, what have you come up with?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
One thing I've read and I was even saying to
you last night, I've never had a three game multi before,
three league multi before. I always hit the two leagues
and end up with the bonus cash. Yeah, because when
you're betting on the n RL, if you do a
three league same game multi, you can get it back,
get your money back of two of them come in.
I have put some serious research into this. Firstly, anytime
try score Roger to a vasask on the left wing, Chanell,
(41:48):
sorry not Chanew. Tomighty Martin has opened up that left side.
They send more down that way. Now it's not right
side dominant anymore. Roger out there getting his hands on
the ball. I can see him scoring a try. I think,
I think the Warriors. So that's the first league, Second League,
New Zealand Warriors to win the first half.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
The Raiders struggle to generate points in the first half. Okay,
and I think they've scored one try in the last
four games in the first half.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Oh, huge, huge insight.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's just like, okay, they suck Aten bor though Fogg
and his back but still yeah, you know, and the
Warriors quite often come out firing. Adam Fanula Blake scores
under the post and then does the foldser's arms and
then we ship the bit and then.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
We sub him off and just go real quiet for
ten minutes. That's right.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
So I reckon the Warriors will get out to an
early lead. Yeap, okay, so Roger to score. We're our
New Zealand Warriors to win the first half, and I
think it'll be under forty seven point five points.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah. I usually hate going unders. Yeah, you're bidding against excitement,
but I.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Can just see this one being a real close, low
scoring like slug Fast.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
There's just so much on the line for both teams.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's paying seven dollars, So you put one hundred dollars
on that, you'll get six hundred back with the old
bonus bit there Yeah, beautiful, I like it. Follow that
one along responsibily. It'll be up on our social media's
later on. Thank you very much for joining us for
another episode of the Med Monday Podcast. Do join us
on Friday to ten pm the two of us commentating
(43:09):
the Warriors Verse the Raiders enjoy weekend.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Bye Skysport nine. By the way,
I can know the regular league fans and welcome back
into the Mad Monday Podcast, brought to you as always
by four and twenty pies, the perfect at home snack
for watching rugby league until midnight on a Wednesday. My
name is Tino. I saw a Monday AOI. I'm joined
by Adam Vanua Kezy this morning, Kezy? How you How
did you pull up this morning after Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Origin? Yeah, I was all good.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I actually on the way home stopped at Wendy's Oh
and got some nuggies and a little chicken Berger there.
Even after all those Mad Traveler pies that we had. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
I was still hungry. Yeah, and so I ate that
watched something, went to sleep at like one am. Yeah,
and then because I do afternoon radio, I just set
my arm for eight thirty. Oh goodness, goal luxurious. Yeah yeah, sleeper.
(00:50):
How did you pull up? I did the same thing.
Oh really yeah, one hundred percent. But yeah, no, it
was like it was a hell of a game last night.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Origin three.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The when I was saying this this morning on the
Agenda podcast, we were watching it last night right on
my place and the bottom right hand corner because it
was nine not fox no, no, no, yeah, And they had
the clock but it just said one h for the
start of the game. It was funny. Ages were like,
what the hell has scored? Then eventually it flicked over
and it was counting down. Then they switched it and
it was counting back up. Anyway, long short of that
(01:21):
was when I finally found out how long the game
had been going for. It only said eight minutes, and
I was like, yeah, I've been watching this since I
was about ten years old. This game has gone on
forever in a good way. It wasn't dragging, no, it
was just frantic.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It was so much action. Man, it was hictic from
the get go, and.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It was obviously that origin intensity that everyone talks about.
And then the dudes that were leading the charge like
Pat Carrigan, I've never seen him that rived up before.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, and I reckon.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
There are about six high shots in the first sort
of ten minutes that the Rift did not give a
shit about. Whereas when your regular season NRL a slight
slap to the face, these days they're sitting you off
for an HIA and it's just because that's the rules.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Hi A.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Speaking of hs Angus Crichton past and Hi A, it
wasn't as it wasn't his head that got knocked. He
had a horizontal scorpion where he bend his head backwards.
It was a neckershoe. I don't think it was that
is it was a head knock.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, I mean I saw that it was with Reese
Walsh's hip. I believe it was. It was a spinal injury.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But they showed it, and they showed like, let's get
one thing straight. Yes, that was terrible for his spine
and his neck, and he will be in a wheelchair
at some stage, that's right. But also watching that in
slow motion, his eyes rolled back into his head. He
was con cast. But because it's origin, there was an
origin style, hi A, And then just let him come back.
I don't know if you've seen have you ever seen
(02:41):
the picture of the human nervous system and it's been
pulled out of the body and you can see where
all the nerves go. No, the eyes are connected to
the to the brain are looking at That sounds real
messed up because I'm a Rugby League fan and I
need to understand the machinations of the human body.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Chris right, So the eyes, yes.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Are connected to the brain connected to the theme of
the spinal cord, which is what he hit. And it's
basically like remember those toys we pull a little string
and the arms come up and the leagues come out. Yeah,
basically he did that with his spinal cord. As I reckon,
his spinal cord got pulled so hard that it rolled
his eyes into the back of his head right, making
it look like he was concussed. But actually it was
(03:18):
just that his spinal cord had been ripped out, which
is fine, yea. And it came right and he played on.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Rust not only play on, but then get the Man
of the series. He was excellent.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
He was excellent, And I can't believe at the start
of the season there were all these like whispers around
the roosters, you know, wanting to sign David Forfeeda to
replace him and blah blah blah. Meanwhile, towards the end
of the season, Dave Forafete is not even in the
Queensland side and Angus Crichton is Man of the Series.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah. I don't know. I wouldn't. I can't believe it
because at the time he wasn't playing that well.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
He was playing terrible and all those rumors going around
at him and Amsterdam taking mushies, and I.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Saw a good interview with him. Actually, it's worth going
and listen to. I haven't seen that one, you know,
the one you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
It because I thought when I tuned into it, I
was like, Oh, here we go. This is going to
be the straight bat. He's going to bullshit his way
through all this stuff. He didn't, didn't he hasn't he
got bipolar or something.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, he does.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, I don't think that means he didn't go with
the rails at episode right, so he yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know what I mean. I don't think that one
excludes the other. Yeah, but anyway, that's all slander.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You're on it.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
He had an absolutely outstanding season, series, season and season.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, but a biff.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I was saying before the game, we were placing our bets,
and I was like, if there was a way that
I could get on a sin bedding, I would I
couldn't find the market for it. Sure enough, it happened.
Both teams a bit of a brew haha between Daily
Cheer Evans and Jerome Lewe aka both team's most annoying players. Yeah, well,
Daily Cheery Evans was into everything last night. He's like,
(04:52):
I have so much respect and rightly so for Daily
Cheer Evans. He's a phenomenal player who's like his career
is insane. I'd just still be playing Origin at forty
three years old exactly. He's actually forty four. And he's
such a shit stirer though, but not to the extent
that Jerome Luay is. No, he's smart about it, whereas
(05:12):
Jerome Lewie, who's and by the way, I'm a New
South Wales fan, he's just a cock.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well he is. I love New south Wales. I like
it if Jerome Lewis as a play.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
He's such a good player. He literally sit up there
try for Bradman Beers. Yeah, he just blew the game
wide open, little wide open. That he's the main reason
that New South Wales won that game. You know, I
would argue that he was almost man of the match.
By the way, Dylan Eddwood's got that I got paid
out sweet. Oh yes, But I just don't like him.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
No, he is intensely unlikable.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I know, I like and you don't have to be loved,
but he almost goes out of his way to make
people hate his guards. Some people need it. I think
he could be one of those people who needs to
be racked up.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's just yeah, okaya vibe.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, and he's like, look maybe if I grow my
hero out real long, it'll make people hate me and
I need that fuel. Yeah right, okay to carry on.
So yeah, that sparked a bit of an all in
brew haha. No punches thrown, but it was a real
chippy game and I've just seen this afternoon that there's
been two suspensions handed out for that. One was for
Cam Murray because he comes streaking down the sideline to
(06:15):
get involved, and the other one was for Hamali Lakwasu,
who was in a suit on the weekend on the
bench by the way.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Ola quit. It's a great game from him.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
We were cracking up twice because first of all, they
are in the Harddle New South Wales and Hudle like
geeting themselves up. He's just in the background eating a
bray burd yeah in a suit, yeah, with a big
grit on his face. If you're not playing, I'd probably
cut the snacks out, you know, someone else might need that.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Just hands in his pockets eating it at apple. Yeah.
So funny and Mitch Barnett a tremendous game. We'll get
into his.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Stats and that later on. In fact, we won't. I
haven't pulled any stats, but he played really well.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Just gonna say, shit, it was was I supposed to
bring no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Oh, you didn't know, but he was. And we've been
saying this for the longest time. He's a State of
Origin player. He was going around the lock geeing everyone up.
He made a point of going over to Homoliolokuatu and
geing him up while he was standing in a suit
with one hand in his pocket and the other one
eating a free burn. Shout out to all onus, Morris
set and I think that that just showed the mana
(07:15):
of Mitch. But that Mitch Monner. And this is remember
when he was away and we got do you remember
this an historic l chucked on us by the Titans? Yes,
sixty sixty six. He wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, we were saying the man, yeah he is, so
the guy that fires us all up.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, so he is crucial and will he turn it
around tomorrow night against the Raiders, that's the big question. Well,
he's named, we were saying, we were just saying this
before the podcast. We're like I said, will neither him
nor Capeal have been named, despite the fact that I
copied and pasted the team listening to our rundown and
they're both on there. They're both on there. They've both
been named, But I mean, do you think that they'll start.
(07:54):
They've both been named to start, but they both played
massive minutes and I don't know if you saw Mitch
Barnett out there, he was holding back. No, no, he
was being a psycho, which I absolutely loved. My theor
in we'll get into the Warriors shortly is that this
is do or die for the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
We have to win this game. It's the Raiders. Like.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
If he doesn't play this game, yeah, I think he'll
just play. He'll play fifty minutes in the front row.
He's named it PROP, but usually he goes from Prop
to back row and then Ford like they do some
weird stuff there. I think he'll just play the prop
rotation minutes hopefully and hopefully a few lighter a bit
of a lighter load. Yeah, you're right, we'll get to it.
He's not a guy though that can do a lighter load.
He'll say, yeah, yeah, I'll do a lighter load.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Then he won't. Yeah, he'll go helpful with it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Ridiculous pace we mentioned the final score line was actually
fourteen to four, and at halftime it was two all,
which I don't think.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Anyone had in their in their malties.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You tell me that it's going to be two all
at halftime, then I'll say, oh, that sounds boring. It
wasn't boring, No, it was so great. It was just
high intensity. The scuffles that were breaking out were ridiculous.
It was like eight in the first half. The ref
was in the middle of one. As we said, one
was on the sideline. But by the way, just on
that sideline one. Both Cam Murray and all the quiet
too are facing two games on the sideline bass they
(09:02):
can challenge it, and then got three and they probably
would end up being three. So yeah, i'd reckon it
will be two games. But anytime you're facing a charge
and you weren't playing, just copy it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Getting sent from the field with a suit on that
you weren't on.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, But to be honest and daily, Cherry Errands was
all fired up about some shit, you know, towards the
end there about how he came off the field. That
should have been a penal about KM Murray, I think, yeah,
but I don't think that would have made much of
a difference. I mean, if Bradman Best's first two breaks
even into it in one try, and if Stephen Crichton
(09:38):
didn't drop the ball over the trail and it would
have been an absolute hiding, it.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Could have been worse. And then fourteen points to four
to the Blues.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And I think basically what happened was it was so
hectic for an hour of that match that in the
last twenty minutes it was going to blow open one
way or the other. Yeah, And unfortunately for the Maroons
it was all one way traffic. For the Blues, it
happened to coincide with Kaylee and Ponger coming onto the field. Yeah,
that was wasn't his fault. I don't think it's Kaylen
(10:04):
pong as well. I think if you're gonna have him
the hammer and Reese Walsh out there, like those guys
all are attacking phenomenons. Yeah, defensively the okay, you know,
like it said, three small bodies that you're bringing on
and you're anticipating out offensing.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, but to be honest, and the first half showed
it. It was all about Deet.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
There was no offense that gave me. Reese Welsh just
showed why he wasn't the fullback that we needed at
the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
It was because, yeah, he's mean. He's a flat track bully.
When you're up by forty points, he carving dudes up.
He's throwing skucky harbor Bridge passes. He's slicing dudes up
out of nowhere. That's right when you're down in the shit.
In game three Origin Sun Gorp made against mate, State
against State, He's probably not what you needed back there
because that much that last Mitch Moses try, he sort
(10:51):
of jagged back on the inside and then it was
just a little swerve past Reese Walsh who's just.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Clutching his shadow.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It was a ship try, Like, yeah, it was cool
because and Mitch Moses's running game is awesome, but that's cool.
It wasn't a State of Origin decider at Suncrp. No.
The Bradman best one was that was sick and he
watching him and he's been playing excellent for the Knights,
but watching him, I was like, this guy's going to
be I reckon next year. He's going to be like
one of those guys in Super Coach you have to have.
(11:19):
He is running so fast and he is so big
and strong.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, massive meat.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
He had tremendous got legged at it, amazing cut on
his lip that reminded me of I don't know if
you're familiar with Robbie Lawler from the UFC, but he
had a similar thing where he won a fight but
had a split in his lip and when he celebrated
and like let out a row, it's split all the
way out to his nose. That's basically what was happening
to Bradman Best last night. And I think he liked it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I think he was like, these photos are going to
live forever. I'll have these printed, you know, Yeah, They'll
be on posters on my wall. And I think that
he's bought himself another three years of origin. But just
by not only scoring that try, but even if he hadn't,
just bullocking runs and a ripped lip for the state
that I think that locks him in. So I agree,
(12:10):
or Who's who's the other center for Chrichton shit? Because
I'm like, but you've gotta have a trail in there.
I think you figure it out with Bredman mess. Maybe
he hadn't, And like you're right about that photo, Like
his photo of him with the split lip is the
same as Trump with the cut here with the shot ere. Yeah,
that's going to be on his poster for years and
that yeah, because he just looked insane.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, it was badass.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It also is going to massively shift the power dynamics
in the changing rooms at Newcastle because the two defenders
that he beat with Kayln Ponger and also Origin Gags,
Origin Gags who got skinned a couple of times. And
just let him let him just play for Newcastle, That's
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I reckon other way, let him just play.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
For He's like, he's not Origin Gags anymore. He's he's
getting older, you know what I mean? See this and
this is the thing. Looking back at the game now,
I'm like, of course they lost Harry Grant's got a
sternam injury. There was no months even like Xavier Coats
wasn't there. Felice Caafusi started, They had a platoon swap
at their front row.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That was weird.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
All of the Beach players came on to start and
I I read that at the time as I think
this is Billy Slater trying to play mind games where
he's named a different front row to try and fuck with. Yeah,
New South Wales, I reckon, that's what he was doing.
And I think anytime you're resorting to that kind of stuff,
that's some New South Wales shit. Yeah, you're already on
the you're already on the back foot.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Queensland are just like usually like, oh, we don't care
what you're doing. We're just going to do about what
we're doing.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, whereas Billy quite Yeah, it was so weird by
the way, and CAFUSI had a mean game and he's
definitely an origin player, oh for sure. But yeah, that
was it was really random.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Are we watching the descent of a man into madness?
After one game? A game?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The first game he came in and he was so calm,
coockture of himself. He's like, yeah, no, we're gonna work.
Second game, he starts argue with the media. No, I
didn't say that. I didn't say this, that this should
have been a head eye, this shouldn't have been a
send off. Blah blah blah blah blah. Game three, he's
fucking mad manning at mad Max and with all the
different players and switching dudes around as he's like that
(14:13):
always sunny Philadelphia meme. Yeah of Pepper silver or whatever
it's called, with all the strings and things in the corkboard.
Well he's lost it. What I think he has lost
is well, just the state of origin. State of origin
by a massive margin. And that's only the thirdy of
a decider in sun Corp. The New South Wales is
(14:34):
once so that's bloody excellent. But I think that whole hoodoo,
at least for a week while of winning a decider
in sun Corp and going to sun Corp New South
Wales with the team that they've put together and the
way they've been playing and the points they left out there,
I think it's unpredicting and I'm a New South Wales
fan that for the next few years it's.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh shit, yeah, like the next three years three.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Years, get on the futures markets on the TV. I'm
going to.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
But other other than it was it was well worth
staying up on a Wednesday night to watch that. There
was a tremendous game of State of Origin fortball. It
was tight right up until about the last ten to
fifteen minutes. It was frantic, like you said, two all
at halftime, but at entertaining, Yeah, entertaining to all.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Most all of my bits. But it was well worth it.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, so mine I put I think I put ten
bucks on New South Wales to when, which they did,
and then I put three bucks or something on Dylan
Edwards to get mad of the match. And because it
was a tight game. This is a good thing to
keep in mind going forward. Whenever you can think there's
going to be a tight game, whoever gets the most
meters is just gonna get mad of the match.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, and it was Dylan Edwards. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So I didn't even realize he got mad of the
match until this morning. I woke up and checked it.
I was like, oh shit, he got mad at the match. Yeah,
two hundred and eighty three meters or something. It would
have been Bradman best if he didn't drop those two
balls because he was insane.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
But yeah, so that's the f and doubt just the
guy with the most meters man of the match. That's
a great fitting strategy.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, I quite like that. All right. We talked about
whether Cape I was gonna play.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
We talked about whether Mitch Barnett is going to play,
where we're going to take a quick break, come back
and digest an interesting Warriors teamless or I will get
to the Mitch Barnett and the Kirk cape well of
it all in just a sec.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But I wanted to start with tor Who Harris.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It came out earlier this week that he's out for
the rest of the season after electing to take risk surgery.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He's got a bug risk. I think it's been plaguing
him for a while.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
He's been out and out and now he's going to
be out for the rest of the season. He is
our captain. How big a blow is it losing tor
Who Harris for the rest of the season. Well, it's
a huge blow, isn't it. I mean, tour Who's been
that one constant throughout years of turmoil at the Warriors.
You can always rely on him. I don't think it's
as much of a loss as it was at the beginning.
It would have been at the beginning of the season. Yeah,
(16:45):
I almost feel like Mitch Barnett's the captain now. Yeah,
oh yeah, he's Whether they name him as the captain
or not Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
He's like, look at me, look at me. I'm the
captain now.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So I still I loved the way we had Mitch
Barnett and add for Noil Blake and then or even
Jackson Ford and then Toyho would come on after twenty
minutes and just play like a solid forty five in
the middle there.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I loved that.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I think his sort of his play at first receiver there,
in his distribution and stuff is earliant. So that's going
to be a huge loss, and to be honest, at
this point in the season where it's must win footy
for us, it is a bit of a loss. But
I'm not as depressed as I would have been if
it happened at the start of the season. If I'm
thinking silver Linings, I think we've all really enjoyed the
impact that Dylan Walker's had around being much quicker off
(17:31):
the line, Like he's a very different player. He's high
energies and absolutely everything. So now all of a sudden,
you go from Sean Johnson to mighty Martin Tory who Harris,
So now you've got Chanell Harris Tavita there and they've
got Dylan Walker in there. I think it could potentially
speed our team up quite a bit. The other big
change that we've made obviously, Charms is still out, so
(17:53):
that means Tane Tupick he comes in at fallback. And
then also Marcelo Montoya has a groin complaint, so he's out.
He's sort of week to week, which brings Ali Laa
Taua and to center and Roger two of us a
check onto the wing. We've been calling for him to
be swapped out of center for.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Quite a while. We all wanted him to go back
to fullback. I love this. He's now on the wing.
Yet I love Leer Tower. He's a beast, you know,
just on layer towel quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
They love him too because every piece of media that
came out before the season, he was in it. So
I think they thought he was going to be a
bigger part of the season than he has been. And
then yeah, and because he was injured, I think, but
also like they need the goal kicking of Adam Pompey
and stuff as well, So there's been these things like
that that has like forced their hands. But I'm just
(18:43):
going I think the club really like him. Yeah, absolutely,
he's the goods. He's one of those dudes we don't
want to let go because he'll go to the Cowboys
or the Panthers or something and become great. I love
Roger on the left side and to Mighty Martin at seven.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Lock it in the rest of the season. You don't
think Sean will come back? Nah, he will.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
And if we're going to do some real damage in
the postseason, we need Sean Johnson. But I just love
the way to Mighty Martin's playing.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I just yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And his whole storyline of having to retire because of
a brain bleed, playing back home and Tao Mutsu or
wherever from the White Cut he's from.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, And then now he's back at the Warriors replacing
Sean Johnson and just having an absolute barnstorming season. And
the photo that he posted on his Instagram last week
of even on the back of a horse that he's
bringing a peg out of the bush. And I've been
saying this all week, and I assume I don't think
I've ever believed in something as strongly as I believe
(19:38):
in this. So Mighty Martin is the man every key
he bloke thinks he is. He's who I think I am.
I don't even think i'm him. I wish I thought
I was him. You know, when your confidence meter is full,
and you're like, you know what, I'll make sure all
right that he is who you think you are when
your confidence meter is full, because the annoying thing about
(19:59):
that is like he can ride a horse, which is just
taps into like, yeah, rear, something deep within every human. Yes,
that's that freedom, mastery of beasts, the mastery of a beast.
He did right, and he uses it to claim the
lives of other beasts.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's right. He killed the boar.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
He's now put that on the horse, his mastery over
that beast. He's getting food for his family.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And on Saturday he's going to go play half back
for the Warriors, and Maniah, he's a fucking smoke show,
and he's a smoke show. It's bad running. It's bad running. Shit.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
But there was a movie character, yeah, and it lived
the life that to Mighty Martin lives.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
You'd be like, that's bullshit. Yeah, no one has all
of that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
It's like everyone looks normal and everyone's just like peasants.
And then this one main character walks down and he
looks like Jason mamore. Yeah, they spent the casting budget
on one dude. Everyone else is just from the town
and they're getting paid in sandwiches or whatever, and they
spent they splashed out on bread pet for the starring
role in this movie.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
That's why everyone else just looks like way Digger and Lass.
And then he comes through and you're like, oh, fuck off, you.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Killed that massive airs bore and then rode it out
on the back of your horse.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You're a you're a huge omen bit guy.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, that's a great omen He went out over the
weekend over the by.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Did that took that photo? Yeah? Where is that in place? Okay,
I don't mind. It's Mighty Martin anytime? Is that what you? Yeah,
I'm thinking that were running into that.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
He's going to go in and get a going to
bring a pig back for the family. Anything else on
the team list obviously Cape War and Mitch Barnett named
I think you have to name them.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, I'm questionable about Cape War.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I mean, he's been kind of not shit, but he's
just been middle of the road all season. He was
middle of the road for Queensland and now two days
later he has to come and start in the back row.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I feel like he might go to the bench or
something like. Yeah, this is initially what I thought as well.
It's actually short and it's the worst time for a turnaround.
I've talked to White A corporate about this, about backing
up from Origin's you'd rather do it the day after
straight away or like five days later. But that second day, yeah,
(22:15):
is the toughest, like getting out of bed, Like getting
out of bed in the morning on tomorrow morning for
these warriors, for Cape and Barnet, they're gonna wake up.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh fuck it out.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
What am I going to do now between now and
the first whistle? Crying well, putting on his warriors? Yeah,
I mean, look, don't get up for it, because this
is what they do. This is who they are. They
are State of Origin players. But like, but you'd still
be like as shit. It was hard getting up out
of bed after Game three for me, just purely based
on how frantic it was to watch. But you backed
(22:46):
up because you're a State of Origin broadcast that's right.
And I'm here doing a pod for the backbones out
there like that the turn backbone, my wife. Look, that's
my only sort of issue with the teams. Great that
to see matat start as well, also having Liqua Hala
Siema on the bench again, I just love this and
tag into a picky static feelback. I just love these
(23:07):
young fellas. When they're given opportunities, they shine. Yeah, so
I want to see more of that. Look at Halo
seem a dear friend of the podcast. He's been on
the Mad Monday podcast before.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Turning down to Helenstein's with us him and Tennis Stoles
Smith and Chance Nickel clock Stead, I've got a flaming
hot take about our matchup this weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
It is against the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Look at the teamless fogey back which is huge for them, huge, huge, huge,
And for the Raiders that's huge, huge, just properly Starling
he's huge, that's the who. Jenny Levo, he's huge. Rapunner,
Zach Asking huge, k Weeks, Jordan up on a team more. Anyway,
my flaming hot take is last week last year, rather
(23:50):
when the Warriors the turning point in their season from
when it was just like, oh, they've won a couple
of games, So I hang on, the Warriors are legit here,
I can pinpoint it. I can as well I'm not
what you gonna say. It is when Ricky Stewart rested
Jared Kroker ahead of his three hundredth game so that
he could play him at home against the Warriors to
win the three hundredth game, and we humped them into
(24:14):
the core of the earth. We smashed the Raiders at home,
happy three hundredth game, Jared Krokers.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
They took on, they drawn the extra zero on the
thirty meter line.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Fuck off. We wasted them. We wasted them. I think
we then wasted the Sharks after that. Only a few
weeks later we wasted the Raiders again and that was
the start of our run home into the finals. It
was when the turning point in our season when people
are like, oh shit, these Warriors are for real. Yeah,
I think it happens again. Yeah, I think it'll be closer.
I don't think it's going to be Jared Croker's three
(24:44):
hundred pumping. No, I think it'll be a close game.
But I and historically watching Raiders v. Warriors the last
few years, I've always been such great matchups, you know,
like Sewann Johnson dropped goals to win, or like them
with a Ford part try to win that shouldn't have
been allowed. Yeah, it's been great, and we beat I
think in christ Church earlier this year.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I think I was gonna get it done.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But I know that both teams are in a very
similar situation where they've had kind of middle of the
road seasons. Yeah, and they are now fighting for that
sort of number eight spot on the ladder. Yeah, whoever
loses this game's done for the season.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Wow. I mean that's actually not that mathematically. Mathematically sure,
that's the case.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I generally like in the NBA, I always say bet
on the team that's facing elimination if the other team isn't.
I'm just going to try and bring up the NRL
table right now to see how screwed they are, because
I'm well aware of our screwed we are.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, they're directly above us on twenty points. We're on nineteen. Yeah,
see they have a worse point differential.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
So whoever wins this we can leap frog then, but
only into like tenth spot. See how annoying is it
that draw against Manly that we're on nineteen.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
We should be on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That is so annoying, Yeah, which would put us in
tenth with a chance to crack the eight with this weekend.
That's right, a little bit, nigli. It has come back
to bite us and the ass. I think we win
this one. I think Mitch and Kpe well play, and
I think that Arts on.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
The wing will be an absolute revelation.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
That I agree he's gonna I reckon like Arts because
every set we start our sets with the wingers and
the outside backs hitting it up.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
He's going to get twice as much ball as he
was at center. Well, Webster said that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think someone asked him about it and he goes, well,
the wingers get their hands on the ball more than
the centers do these.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Days, so that correct, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, so he's going to have like twenty something head
ups over two hundred meters.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
We're kicking for him.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
He's going to have the end of the season that
Zach Lomax has had to start the season huge switching
from center to.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Wing to wing. And also we give him the goal kicking.
I'm really excited. I'm really excited for it. By the way,
shout out to Zach Lomax's goal kicking instead of origin.
It was great. He was excellence. All Right, We're gonna
take one more quick break.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
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So text Pie to three two three six and you
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a super coach Chris for your Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Were your ass? For your ass?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
There's only get a couple of hours before I inevitably
forget that I've undone my changes and then leave my
team screwed for the week, which I've done a couple
of weeks. We all sort of fell off for me
a couple of weeks ago by bringing Hines in a
week early. I use my last boost to doctor my
books to bring him in, so of course he immediately
broke his league. The buys the holds the sales this week?
(27:54):
Is it too early to buy? Nathan Cleary. I think
it depends on your trades and how many warm bodies you've.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Got this week. Decent big thing, decent warm bodies. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Just finding out today that Homoloola Kuatu's out, that's changed
my plans completely. I now have Yeah, I've got like
I have Luke Brook. Still, I didn't want to play them,
but now I'm going to have to. And so if
I don't bring in Nathan Cleary this week for me,
then I'm going to have a pretty shocking team this week.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You mean this week? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Right, because the big thing about Nathan Cleary obviously has
just come back from a second injury spell this year
with a hamstring injury.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I'm sure they've been very cautious about it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
They have.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
They've given him an extra I think three weeks they
were saying.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, and there's every chance that he could get an
early shower this this weekend. You know, they mainly play
in fifty sixty minutes if the Panthers are up big.
Oh it's the Dolphins too. I think it's the Dolphins. Oh,
the internet here is so shit. Internet, it is shit.
I can tell you that it is the Dolphins on Sunday.
So I mean they could get up, although defensively at
the moment the Dolphins, I can see the Panthers really
(29:01):
doing a number on them. It depends also how many
origin players are named for Panthers.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, and also for Dolphins. Yeah, Pelice Cafusi's name for
the Dolphins, it's all on Hammer as well. Yeah. True.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I mean not that Trey follow hasn't got the job
done for them so far, but yeah, I just think
the other part of it, for clear is his break
even is at one hundred and eighty one. He's not
going to get that. So even if he scores one hundred,
I think I heard someone who knows more about Supercoach
to me say that he's still going to lose one
hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, that's right. So you're better off if you can
afford it to wait till next week.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
It depends though, because he might not get one hundred
and eighty, right, but he might score a hundred, that's right,
And then that's one hundred points. Well, let's say you've
got your current halfback scores fifty. That's fifty points you've
missed out on with what's seven weeks ago in the
Super Coach or sex if you're doing a head.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
To head league.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
So there's one clear cut situation I think that you
bring clearly in, and it's if you're low on trade,
so you don't have any boots, which I think is
most people around this. I'm low on trades, but I
had a boost. Do you have Nico Hines? Yes, I
had him.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It had him.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I had him this week and I have already made
my trades. I've gone straight from him to Nathan Cleary
because I don't have the trades all the time to
miss around here and wait for people to drop cash. Yeah,
And so what I was gonna do was like I
was thinking about, do I try to do like a
Jaden Campbell thing and then swap Dylan Brown to him
next week? Blah blah blah. I don't have the trades
for that shit. I need to be bringing in dudes.
(30:29):
I was staying in my team for the rest of
the season.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
It's rocks and diamonds time. It's yeah, knough out.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, middle of the road guys drop them down to
bottom dollar or not even playing failers, bring in your
Nathan Cleary's. Like I was at your place last night
when I actually made I used my last boost a
sneaky because when I was giving you all those tips
about supercoach, yeah you did actually mention Reid Marni and
then I looked at him. I was like, actually, he's
super cheap, super cheap water. And so I had the
(30:56):
last two weeks, I've had Jeremy Marshall King injured, Dune
Heines injured, done for the season, so it's almost yeah
and a half a metal sitting on your bench exactly.
So I had to get a hooker, and I had
to get a halfback. So I've gone Nathan Cleary, He's
locked in for the rest of the season and Read
Money as my hooker because Harry Grant, who's about the
same price as he's got the Stirnam injury. He didn't
look that great in Origin. I'm just like Nap, so
(31:19):
Read Money. I brought in Nathan Cleary, and I had
enough money left over to finally upgrade my stupid Newcastle
fullback Flitcher sharp if if Sharp minor, and I didn't
have enough money to go to Turbo. I didn't have
enough money or time to wait for pomer till probably
probably next week. But next week he plays the Panthers
(31:40):
and then there's a buy or something like the Knights
have got a kind of a shit yeah that is
next few games. So I was like, I could wait
for pomer in a few games and just sort of
like set it out, but I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I'm going to with the money I had available.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Ryan Pappenhausen, Yeah, was the guy I could afford to
bring in. He's kind of a pod at the stage
as well a point of difference. I don't think too
many people have got him, so I just locked him
and for the rest of the season. He's the fullback
for one of the best teams in the NRL. You know,
I'll do you one better. He's the fullback for the
best team in the NRL, brus Storm Pebby. Oh that
(32:15):
top of the table, top of the table. Yeah, yeah, true,
So I like it. I think Peppy's a great pod play.
At worst, he's about ninety percent of what you were
going to get from Kaylen Ponger or yeah, and I
don't have to trade and muck around and wait, you know,
it's the time to just get the guns now. And yeah,
so I'm some of that. I still had Trel and
I had Nico Hines. It's a lot of cash. It's
(32:37):
a lot of cash. So I've been Nico Heines to
Nathan Cleary. I don't care that he's going to lose
one hundred K this weekend because I'm not trading him out.
You have traded in Nathan Cleary. I don't care what
numbers next to him. You've got the best player in
the NRL on the best team. Yeah, it's not like
I'm going to trade them for Joey John's in a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
No, exactly. Yeah. And then at fullback, it's basically fullback roulette.
Who do you want to go with? I looked that Treboyevitch,
I looked at Ponger. I looked at Ponger.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I looked at Trabovich, stared them both in the eye,
and I said, I can't trust your hammies.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Tom. I'm sorry. I'm going Ponger. So you you've brought
in Ponger. I've brought in Ponger.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
He's playing the Broncos, who I just saw Pat Gerrigan
in a moonboot by the way after Origin three, So
they that's real trouble for them.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So then he's got the buy. Then the Panther.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Sorry I got that wrong, but KP last season was
the best player in Super Coach when he was healthy.
Like Necho overall was, KP was a freak. I would
have gone Ponger if I could somehow how have swung it,
but I couldn't, so like it's just forced my hand
to go Pappenhausen. But I think Ponger is the best option.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So then the other.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Question that I have for you is, since homoi Olikwatz
is out for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Is that enough for you to drop him? Nah? You
have Crichton. No, you don't consider that. Do you know
who I've got? I've got for.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Feeder cuts O and Coloma Tungi, who's my guy from
the Rabbit O's and a front row slash to our
if God named Mitch Barnett sitting up at front row.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah right.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
So, to be honest, the only guy I would bring
in because I've got two nuffs and two r ref
and I need to make one of them a player.
The only guy I would bring in, And I can't
believe I'm saying his name to beat a Punky Jr.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I was just gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Allow me a few would just a couple of moments
to blow my own horn. But I brought him in
about a month ago when he was first named. That
is such a mania play. That is such a mania play.
He is the exact kind of player on one of
my fantasy team. Yeah, he skipped out on this team
last year to go and fight Trad's and the boxing ring. Yeah,
got dusted up and then came back to the NRLs.
(34:43):
I'll have him, thinks, But mate, Wayne Bennett, he gets
the bess out of it.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
He does get the best out of there.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
And he looked great and the week ninety he scored
a try, but he was offloading, he was busting tackles.
He looks like someone's turned the size fader up while
creating a character. He's way bigger than all the other characters.
Looks like a guy I used to play in the
NRL by the name of Tavita Pugay Junior. True, and
he is absolutely tremendous. Yeah, I'm the same my halves.
(35:08):
I think halves everyone's but it's just been so squarely
because for the last like four or five years, it's
just been God Niko Hines and very clear and never
think about it again, you go Munster in the halves.
Have you got on five eight Brown and Galvin? Oh,
you've got to Mighty I've got Tomurdy Martin.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Allow me to take another five minutes here just to
blow my own horn. But I brought to Mighty Martin
and months ago when he was like three hundred, or
he was about three hundred, when everyone was getting Galvin. Yeah,
and I've got Galvin. When they take the low road,
we go high.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And I went to Mighty Martin.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I see him riding around town with the girl I love,
and I'm like, fuck, you get him my super coach day.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
But if back then someone had said Dereck and to
Mighty Martin or average like ninety every time he plays
halfback for the Wars, only one person on God's Green Earth,
he would have said, yes, you're sitting across from him.
I thought he would have said yes man. He wouldn't
have even thought there that No, probably not bro. So
that is a huge plan. I wish i'd done it
(36:08):
as well, because I've just got Dylan Brown, who's just
tuning out fifties and sixties.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I got him that he's boring. The's a mighty Martin thing.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'm gonna be honest, I tried to trade him out
that three weeks, like, surely he can't keep this up. Yeah,
it's like this is going to be the top. This
is going to be the top. This is going to
be the top. I'm like a crypto trader in the halves.
They're so funny. But yeah, so, I think at this
point in the season, I so, I've made my trades
for this week.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I now have eight remaining no boosts. Where are you at?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I used my last boost read Marney, Nathan Cleary and Pappenhausen.
I have got six remaining.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
So, I think at this point of the season, basically
you kind of have to make your picks for the
rest of the season. You are shaping your team into
what it's going to look like for the rest of
the season. Now, I think you don't have any unless
you've got like sixteen trades left. You don't have time
to be chopping and changing dudes to try and make
cash anymore. That's right, those days are over. I also
(37:06):
with six trades, if you like me, with six trades,
can I actually justify bringing in ta Vita pun I
Junior With one of my last six trades, because what's
going to happen is if you get into the finals
of your head to head, which I still can't wrap
my head around how this works.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Someone's going to get injured.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
You're going to be fucked and Taveta punk I Junior
is going to be sitting on your beit.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Why did I use that trade? That's right, so I
wouldn't know. The time to get on TPJA was month
about a month ago, which is just so stupid.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, so I think with the six and with the
what's seven weeks of the Narl left, I am not
making any trades unless I'm forced too.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
From here on out. This is my team.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
You don't really have a choice, so I am The
one other thing that I had jotted down here is
Moses came out this morning. Mitch Moses did his bicep
last night. Oh yes, so he will be done. So
I don't know how many people got on Mitch Moses.
I'm sure a few did when he came back. He
looked insane. When he came back did he looked excellent?
So he's a clear drop. Yeah, that might be how
(38:06):
you get to cleary. What impact that hairs on Dylan Brown.
I don't know, but they've got to buy this week,
so and that done for the season, so who gives
a shit? Also huge one Dylan Edwards pc allen jury
after Origin, so he could have also been a pod
fallback to have for the run home best fullback, one
of the pretty has been the best fullback in one
of the best.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Players this season.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, so he could be out for two to four
weeks if it's a moderate sprain. That's according to the
nar ol physio. All right, Yeah, I think the my
key takeaway from this week is you've just got to
get your team sussed for the rest of it and
then keep five or six trades up your sleeve just
for injuries. Don't touch them, don't jump on someone with
a low brake, even there's no point at this point
(38:48):
in the season. Just you know, you're just got to
cover your own ass. Yeah, and oh notugh, he's just quickly.
I don't want to go too long in this podcast,
but to explain how enough he works, because I know
there's a lot of first season on here. How it
works is when people say Nafi and enough he is
a player that doesn't play and bottom dollar, bottom dollar
and Basically, what you're doing is you are trading. Say
(39:11):
you've got a dude who's worth like four hundred or
three hundred K, and he's going to get you like
twenty points. Trade him out to a player that doesn't play.
Save that one hundred k for to upgrade one of
your other dudes into a into a good player.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
And just so you're aware, I've got three enoughs on
my team right now, I.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Have one two, I've got two, yeah, so two three nups.
That's about right.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
And later in the season, if you like, if someone
gets injured, you need to free up some cash to upgrade.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Just knoff someone out, someone else out. But you don't
want too many because you'll get screwed over at the end.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
And the one trick that I have for you for
enough is look for dual position. There's not a whole
lot of them. You've probably got them in your team.
Villiami Fafita is one of the most owned players in Super.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Coach hasn't touched the fucking park this year. I've got
him in my team. Everyone does.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
It's because he's second front row eligible, so you can
use him to swap your players around and the other
one is Jid Cartwright, who everyone else has got from
the Nights because he's second row cinder. Yes, Miles Martin
another one from the Knights front row, second row as well.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
It's quite a popular one.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
But yeah, so I'll probably end up having Jim cart
right at some stage though, Just quickly, captains, are you
just gonna lock in Titty?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
So the Roosters are great matchup. By the way, Saturday night,
the Roosters are playing the Melbourne Storm. Where is the
oh there, it is there nine point thirty Amy Parks.
So that's Saturday night, and then the Panthers are playing
Sunday four in the afternoon. So I'm going to vice
Captain Teddy and then Captain Nathan Cleary fully intending. Because
(40:43):
it's like a small buy around and there are few
teams out, I've got pretty much a free shot at
the loop anyway. Yeah, which you probably won't is which
I'll probably won't use and we'll forget about.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
But yeah, so Titty and Clear, even though it's his
first game.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Back, I'm stilling Clear Loop, sit and forget with Titty
go well this weekend. Make sure sure if you're listening
to this podcast on the Thursday. Make sure you sit
your team, because the amount of times people sit their
team then reverse their trades and blah blah blah, you
could fuck yourself. Just before we go, we need to
put together the Mad Monday hunch. Now, as someone who
had a couple of bits last night, I've handed the
(41:16):
reins over to you for the hunch this weekend.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Chris, what have you come up with?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
One thing I've read and I was even saying to
you last night, I've never had a three game multi before,
three league multi before. I always hit the two leagues
and end up with the bonus cash. Yeah, because when
you're betting on the n RL, if you do a
three league same game multi, you can get it back,
get your money back of two of them come in.
I have put some serious research into this. Firstly, anytime
try score Roger to a vasask on the left wing, Chanell,
(41:48):
sorry not Chanew. Tomighty Martin has opened up that left side.
They send more down that way. Now it's not right
side dominant anymore. Roger out there getting his hands on
the ball. I can see him scoring a try. I think,
I think the Warriors. So that's the first league, Second League,
New Zealand Warriors to win the first half.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
The Raiders struggle to generate points in the first half. Okay,
and I think they've scored one try in the last
four games in the first half.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Oh, huge, huge insight.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It's just like, okay, they suck Aten bor though Fogg
and his back but still yeah, you know, and the
Warriors quite often come out firing. Adam Fanula Blake scores
under the post and then does the foldser's arms and
then we ship the bit and then.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
We sub him off and just go real quiet for
ten minutes. That's right.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
So I reckon the Warriors will get out to an
early lead. Yeap, okay, so Roger to score. We're our
New Zealand Warriors to win the first half, and I
think it'll be under forty seven point five points.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah. I usually hate going unders. Yeah, you're bidding against excitement,
but I.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Can just see this one being a real close, low
scoring like slug Fast.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
There's just so much on the line for both teams.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's paying seven dollars, So you put one hundred dollars
on that, you'll get six hundred back with the old
bonus bit there Yeah, beautiful, I like it. Follow that
one along responsibily. It'll be up on our social media's
later on. Thank you very much for joining us for
another episode of the Med Monday Podcast. Do join us
on Friday to ten pm the two of us commentating
(43:09):
the Warriors Verse the Raiders enjoy weekend.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Bye Skysport nine. By the way,
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