August 7, 2024 • 36 mins
Chris Key joins Manaia Stewart to discuss the Wahs side to play the Dolphins this Sunday in another... MUST WIN game (04:02).
Then the fellas rip into the buys/sells/holds for your Supercoach team (20:47).
Finally, they compose a TAB Hunch completely based on the emotional news of the week (34:09).
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm good afternoon, and welcome back to the Mad Monday Podcast,
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It's the perfect at home snack for watching rugby league.
My name is Tin Monnayawi. I'm joined by Edin Fanua
Kezy this afternoon afternoon crsshagging on Matte really good, really
good man. I I mean I have just looked down
at our schedule and seen that you and I are
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commentating this Sunday, Yeah, the Dolphins. I've also looked at
our record and that we've never commentated a loss all season.
We've never commentated a work. Sorry there was another loss
right there. And I've also looked at hundreds of comments
and texts over the last couple of months saying ban
those two from doing commentaries together. Yes, completely, Yeah, unfortunately
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been and Diana available. He's stuck with us. If anyone's
did the illusions how this works? If they aren't available,
we come on. That's one hundred see how it We're Yeah,
and did you hear that people were saying talking about
the axis of Evil at the game on Friday night?
So when we took on the Eels, Yeah, you were
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commentating that's right, which was a massive commentator's curse. Yes.
Plus Matt Heath was in attendance and drinking red wine. Yes,
and he did a post about the penon WI did
a post about the Pens from the ground. Yes, and
G Lane was an atendant. So the g Lane curse.
The Warriors never had a chance. Why Why Like I
am fully prepared to just be like I am a curse. Yeah.
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But however, last season we commentated allmost a shitload of
games and we will win it. Yeah. But do I
just stand down from the commentary and just you just
do them all? No? Because I also have commentated eight games,
seven losses, one win, so there's no win there either.
It was extra deflating driving out to Mount Smart, walking
in there, going up to the thing, seeing Trent Barrett
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going in a photo on the field. But join us
for tonight's game and then just boom, another huge commentator's curse.
Game lost massively. Yeah. I just I know that it's
a fan base that's hurting, and so they're looking for
anything to blame it on. The Other thing is I
hate when the Warriors, like up until last year, they
would always be like, oh, Warriors have a dismal record,
against this team. It's like, yeah, we have a dismal
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record against most teams, every single team, Yeah, pretty much.
So it's not like a massive particularly during that COVID
era that we've already digested the Friday game. I just
wanted to bring up the old the curse thing there.
We're here to break down the team list that is
going to get us back on track, because not even
just not even just mathematically, I think I've been too
down on the team, thinking we cannot make the eight. Yeah,
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but that's because people are be doing in correct maths. Yeah,
because we can't. We have the buy at the end,
your bloody tack those points on. Now. The long and
short of it is, we do need to win every
single game from here on out. Four games so far
plus to buy. If you look at the table which
I'm bringing up right now, we're thirteenth on twenty one points.
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So you tack the buy onto this. I know we
do this every week. We're up to twenty three, which
puts us in eleventh place. We win, we are on
twenty five and that is good enough for ninth. Yeah, right, okay,
so we're just knocking on the door there. Yeah, And
that's after this week, mind you. So I don't think
it's ridiculous. And I have already seen a few Ossie
pundits who actually know rugby league say not only could
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they make the eight, I think the Warriors will still
make the eighth. Wow, which I think could be clickbait
absolutely because they know that Kiwis will click on that. Absolutely.
But these are the same like do you remember the
start of the season, Aussie pundits were all about the Warriors. Yeah,
they were predicting massive things for them. So and I
think we are all still predicting. But until we are
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running out of back line that isn't I don't know. Well,
this is the back line that has been run out
against Wayne Bennett's Dolphins, which I would like to remind
you are ninth so and they're on a downward slide.
But they scored thirty whatever points against the Roosters at
the weekend. They are just so hard to be on
any given day they could score so many points against us.
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Oh yeah, And so the Warriors teamless reads Dusty Shanes,
Nicol Klushta, He's going to be in number one, Dell
and Wa Tennis Lesnia will be and the number two
Jersey ali Leta attains his center spot, but Moeler Graham
Toolfer has been dropped, so Roger's in there, and then
the Kazi club comes back on the other wing, Roger
back to center. This is obviously I wouldn't say a
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vote of no confidence in Mayler Graham Toolf for but
I just think, I mean, he's he's been dropped in there. Well,
he's had two games for the what maybe three, and
from what I remember, his debut was excellent, as a
lot of those players who have come on for us
this year has been been excellent. And his next game
against the Eels was one of the worst games I've
seen a Warrior playing a long time. He just missed
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so many tackles, dropped the ball so much, and it
was just a clear example of a young Fewler not
quite being ready yet pas needed and like all of
a sudden he's playing center in a game where it's
must win and it's a pack stadium, you know what
I mean, Like he just wasn't quite ready so and
leaked a couple I feel like one of those tries,
uh just comes straight through his channel and they were
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just through. I was saying on the Monday podcast. When
we went down by like two three tries very quickly,
I basically tourn my back on the game and hit
the buffet. We were in the corporate box. Yeah, I
was gonna come with you guys in the corporate box
as well, but I was just too down, like with
the realization with thirty minutes to go that we weren't
coming back. And then all of a sudden, you've got
thirty minutes of trying to like simultaneously make the audience
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laugh and also make because Die is gutted. Die his
emotions are one hundred percent reliant on how the Warriors go. Yeah,
I'm just saying he drops the lip when you two
commentate that. He's very proficional obviously, but I know how
much it means to him, you know what I mean.
And so thirty minutes of trying to like, you know,
read out deck jokes on three two three sects or whatever,
and yeah, you know, have some fun. You did get
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like an eight minute street right at the end. Yes,
but it was sort of like, it's so hard to
get excited for that when you know, well I got angry.
It was like, oh, so now we're scoring points. Oh,
just quickly while we were on here as well. I
didn't talk about it Die. What was the light situation
going on in in the box? I've never seen Die
that worried before what was happening. So I showed up
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to that little commentary cupboard and the lights were off
and I was like why and I turned the lights on.
Oh that's bitter. And then two minutes later, a guy
in full eels uniform comes down and goes, hey, can
we turn those lights off? And I was like, oh, yeah,
no worries because your light switch controls our coaches box
and Trent Barrett doesn't want the lights on because when
the camera cuts to them, they want the lights off
so you can't see them because they've been hounding him
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obviously because hes given the sack and they're playing like shit.
And then all of a sudden, it was just like
this amazing opportunity to if they and we've got the
live feed, if they cut to the coach's box, I
could flick the lights on and off a few times
and it would be hilarious. Die was not for it
at all, yeah, because I think he was picturing all
this hard work we've gone through to finally been commentating
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a Warriors game at Mount Smart and then me ruining
it with a light gag. So were the lights? The
lights were off for your commentary? Off the commentary because
they want when they cut to the coach's box, they
wanted it to be dark in this he couldn't really
see them to like to not encourage the cameras to
keep cutting back and then but imagine they cut to
Trent Barrett and just one light on light off. That
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would have been hilarious. I reckon on off, then just
when he loses the plot, back on again. As soon
as he goes the fuckers going hold of these lights,
that's when you flick them back on. But the good
thing about this light switches, it's gonna be like that
for every game. Yeah, So at some point, Craig Belly,
we flecked the lights. If he comes back next season,
I'm not sure what he's doing, but or we just
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peck a moment, recky Stuart. He sits on the sideline,
he does see because he's had the lights. He's had
the lights before and he's not about that. But next
time there's a coach and maybe we're pumping them. Yeah,
little light switch with have sandstorm ready to go on
our commentary or if we know that we're about to
get kicked out of there again. Wow, exactly, and for
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some reason the relationship between us and then gets really bad. Yeah,
Chanelle Harris to will be in the number six jersey.
And actually, because the news came out after we recorded
the podcast on Monday, we haven't talked about this. Sean
the fourth last game for the Warriors, fourth last game
for Sean Johnson. How instant reaction from you? Well, were
you surprised that? My first gut reaction was absolutely heartbroken
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for myself because I'd just spent forty minutes on the
podcast and I don't think he's going to retire because
because I was on Mad Monday straight afterwards, Oh, right
straight after, I was like, he's been he's had contracts
thrown at him from other teams, so presumably he's been
given a contract and we've found out since that yea
he had from the Warriors. Yeah, And I was like,
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when someone puts a contract with hundreds of thousands of
dollars in front of you, you don't turn it down.
Wells walked out of that podca, boy was it? We
don't turn it down. Yeah, that's right. Sean Johnson doesn't care.
I said this the lane on the Gender podcast. I
was like, it's a ordering amount of money. He's like, oh,
it's not that much. I said, if I walked in
here and asked you for they just paid Seawan Johnson,
your eyes would water. It's not that much. What kind
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of a bullshit? Commented, that's a huge amount of money. Yeah,
that's a huge amount of money. And then what I
realized actually was there's something I've known for a long time.
How rich you are isn't how much money you have,
it's how much money you can say no to. That's
a really good point. And he can say no to
a lot of money. Evidently there's such a good point.
Has done. He's also got other options as well, so
God bliss him. I think athletes don't often get a
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chance to decide when they want to retire, So if
you do, then you should. Yeah. And also all time
great Hall of Fame warrior. He's one of those like
Benji Marshall types of saying this. I think I was
on Hadaki I was saying he's one of those guys like, yeah,
Benji Marshall, I can't even think of Stacey or but
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you type in Skucks into YouTube and a half an
hour highlights package is going to come up. Or sunny Bill.
You're at a party and someone doesn't know about league,
and you go, have you seen Shaw Johnson? Go? Nah,
you fire up a twenty minute highlights but he have
Sewan Johnson. Yeah, he's one of those guys that you
show highlights of to really showcase how fucking amazing the game,
the game campaign awesome it can be. So he's one
of the coolest players that's ever but he also hasn't really,
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in my opinion, lived up to that potential yet, which
last season was awesome. Yeah, and I think it's his injury.
He must be injured this year. Yeah, he must be.
And knowing that next year it'll be similar to this year,
you do. This is how every athlete's career ends, that
all of a sudden start getting injuries that they used
to bounce back from and that don't anymore. But you're right,
he's been involved in every incredible Warriors moment for the
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last decade, and you know, all of the highlights have
been played around you know, him steping dudes and scoring
tries for the Kiwis for the Warriors. I think was
it him that put the kick in for a man
that caught it and did a backflip and then through
the I think it probably was, Yeah, I think it
was so. Yeah. He has left a massive mark on
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on the Warriors organization, the Warriors club. It's it's a
weird one because Tomodie Martin's now been dropped. But you
would presume that he's going to be the halfback for
the Warriors next year. How no, no, how early? It
is too early to just give a teenage of the
keys to the entire franchise. Oh, Jet Cleary, weel then
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and say you see this, this is yours now fucking
save us? Or do we give it to Luke Metcalf
and say yeah he's that. Yeah, definitely. He said he's
always wanted to play half back. Oh really yeah. So
I don't know. I think there's a few options. It's
not like we're short on anything. Well, no, we're not
short on options. What we're short on is having a
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chance to play these options together for an extended period
of time. There's so many interruptions with injuries. How do
you think it plays out for the next four weeks.
Do you think that him announcing his retirement at Bolsters
the Boys? Do you think it's a distraction. I like
to think I just called him the boys by the way.
Yeah it's a good Yeah, you know, I'm part of
the Boys as West Sweet. We can do it. How
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do you think we go for the next four weeks?
I reckon, Well, certainly, the impact it had on me
and I think I can speak on behalf of the
rest of the team was I was like, Fuck, we're
gonna start winning. I feel like, all of a sudden,
Shawn Johnson's stepping down four games left a chance to
really end his career and like with a high, not
that he hasn't finished on a high last I mean
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last year was amazing. He's and to go from pretty
much the Delian when and Kadam pong Is stealing it
and retiring a year later is pretty crazy. Well yeah,
but people were calling for him to retire the year
before that. Oh and I was probably part of for
a wee bit there when we were going horrifically. Yeah,
that's just the stuff you do when you're emotional after
another Warriors lost. But I feel like, hopefully it does
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make our players stand up and at least just play
with some heart and like make those tackles that we've
been sort of half aass on and yeah, just things
like that. It makes us play a bit better. And yeah,
it's a theme for the rest of the seasons. Send
Sja off in style, absolutely, because you want to be
part of those highlights in that last game and those
last few games, you know, they are all I mean,
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there's only one more home game left, but that's a sellout,
I reckon. The other ones are going to draw massive
crowds because we travel well. But yeah, I think that
Shawn Johnson is going to go well over these next
four weeks. I hope he stays healthy for these four weeks.
You're saying you're gonna bring him into your Super Coach
Team final send off. I wouldn't. I would think about it. Yeah,
I've thought about it, but that would mean dropping Nathan Cleary.
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Ah nah, you know so anyway, we're still naming the teamless. Yeah,
the Ford Packs unchanged Adam Wadegan Barnett MA to Kurt
Dylan Walker at thirteen and then the bench fretty lastic,
Tom Aley, Jess Tevanga. Good to see him back. From
that hamstring injury and Liquor Hala Sema is going to
be on the bench as well, which I think is great.
He's had a great season so far. Liquor, Yeah, he's
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been great. They're just the three games that he's played, well,
the three games for eight minutes that he's played, Like,
just use them. We've got these fellows. Just freaking use them,
you know. Yeah, for sure still does my head. But anyway,
he won't get on the field, soorry about it. Eighteenth
man is not on your sheet, but eighteenth man is
to mighty Mutton. Interesting, do again, what does that tell you? Well,
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to be on nothing? Yeah, there's absolutely nothing to be
read to that. He's just a utility player, isn't He
can play a cover a lot of cars. Ever tells
me anything? Is that? Maybe? Is it a way of
being like, hey, you're still one of the most important
players to us, and light of the news that Shawan
Johnson's retiring is with he's just like keeping him on
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the hook. Yeah, keeping him as we say, you know, like, hey,
you're so important to us that when me and the
missus on the rocks, right, I have a feeling next
year she's not going to be around, all right, trust me,
trust me. Now, I can't have you in the changing kids.
Obviously you understand that it's going to be too political,
but I still want you on the team. So just
hang around, stay in the corner, and all it's going
to take is two hit injuries and then boom you're back.
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That's right. You could be back this week. I don't know,
but you could be, if you know, depending on how
things go. So yeah, I think to Mighty Martin, I
don't know if you're gonna have a side piece. You
could do worse than oh, absolutely, And both on the
field and in the sheets. The thing that worries me is, sorry,
that was disrespectful the Dolphins. Sorry, it was really disable
to carry on. Is the Dolphins team? Just I know
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they've been on a bit of a slide. I'll be honest.
I was surprised to see them outside of the top
eight when I check the standings just then. But they,
like the Sharks, real hot start and then they've just
slowly tapering, but not fully tapering off. They are still
putting up a massive fight against these sides. No, in
this team that I'm about to read you, it's not
missing any massive players, so the hammer at full wack.
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Who when I look at that, I have visions already
of him tearing us to bits and him just doing
the scoring and then doing the arm thing that he does,
which is so cool. By the way, Jemina Suckle is
going to be on the wing if he plays. If
he plays, he what did he ankle? Really nasty ankle.
But I think he has to get through training literally
today and then should know by tonight whether or not
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he's playing. Jake Evarillo, who's been going well, he's probably
our weak point to run through. He lets in a
lot of tries. Herbsley Farnslington Worth the third he will
be in the fourth Jersey. And Jack Bostock, who's been
going very well this year. A little whipp it that dude,
that whole left side. Isaiah Katara, who's still very young,
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is such a gun. He's got that left side clicking man. Yeah.
And Jack Bostock has been scoring so many tries things
to that. I reckon he's gonna be a gun next year. Yeah,
I think so too. Cody Niicarrima is in at the
sixth Jersey. The forward pack is Jesse Brominch, Max Plath,
who's starting at hooker. He started the season when he
first came in at five eighth. He's been playing in
the second row. He's been playing lock. He played a lot. Yeah,
and this is for a Wayne Bennett coach team. I
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love that. So that tells you Max Plath is a
rugby league player one hundred percent. I don't care what
Jersey's got on. Just get him out there. And the
funny thing, he played in the halves his entire like
junior age group and everything. He's a half back in
five eight. He's just a big bastards as the thing,
he's a rectangle, but he's also really skilled and he
can tackle really well, so he's just the full package.
Shawn rugby league player retired professional boxer Tavita punk I
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Junior will be starting in the number ten Jersey and
like I'm going to take another victory lap. He had
brought him in as soon as he came back out
of retirement and he's gone great guns for me. He's
injured now, isn't he, Tavenda? Yeah? Is he not playing
this week? Did he play last week? I don't think
he did. I think he had an injury. We'll double
check this after the ad break, we'll fact check, fact
check right now. Fell Connelly, Limouelu and Kenny Bromich is
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going to be in the thirteen Jersey. I've got a
hell of a bench. Aaron Keeley, Mark Nichols, Ray Stone
who I don't think I could tell a part if
they're standing next to each other. And then Shaan O'Sullivan,
the teacher's bet is going to be in there as well. Manaia.
Who the hell is Aarn Keeley? I don't know. I
bet he's a gun though? What if Old Bennett likes him.
Tavita punk I Jr. Did not play last week. He
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has been named to start this week. I think he
just had a one week off situation. So yeah, that
is the teamless as I look at it. I am
gonna be one hundred percent honest with you and you
at home. I think we're gonna lose this week. I
think we I think we're going to as well. And
can I just say I really and we both do
we really hope that we're proven wrong, but just based
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on how the Warriors played against the Eels, based on
like Cossi coming in on the wing and Roger's shifting
back to center. Like, I don't feel super positive, but
if the boys can step up and really, you know,
step up to the streets, step up to the streets,
and honor of Seann Johnson in his final four games,
yeah shit, it would really just get And also honor
the on the treaty. But honor the treaty first of
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all on the jersey, yeah. Second of all, honor your
fucking put it. And then finally after that, honor the
fans who have broken the record for the first time
an entire season has been sold out like that is incredible,
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We need to take a quick break and we come back.
We're going to try and make heads and tales of
what to do in the waning stages of Supercoach season. Chris,
I know you're keen to join the ACC team for
a massive rugby league weekend in March of twenty twenty five.
And it's the first weekend of March and twenty twenty
five as well in Nevada. Yeah, in Nevada. Yeah, Okay,
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there's a massive, yeah, massive weekend of league going on
in Nevada, first weekend of March. Not the big city
there with all the neons of the yeah, yeah, yeah,
is it there? That's the one. Yeah. I don't know
if New Zealand rugby league teams ever played there. Oh look,
I don't think so. No, not in recent memory. No,
not certainly, not last year. But they are next year.
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You joke it and if you can be, if you
want to be there, you can takes Vegas to three
two three six to book your spot. There's a spear
spot going because I'm not going who's so to be
Healley and Dy are already going out they yeah, right,
sounds like, oh, Kizy's going to Vegas. I meant Nevada.
Wait are we potentially avoiding the words Las Vegas? Is
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it one of those situations where we can't say, yeah,
the thing like the Olympics. Is it like that? Yeah,
although I just said Olympics. So Warriors in Las Vegas? Anyway,
Vegas three two three six. So we got this week, Chris.
If you're playing in a hit the Head league, you
will most likely be into your finals now. And I
know that's true for us. I think most people at
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this sort of time of the season, probably even a
couple of weeks ago, switch their attention from overall to
head to head when they realize they cannot win the overall. Well,
that's exactly where I am, yeah, one hundred percent. The
funny thing about overall, like, if I look at overall,
I'm ten thousand, three hundredth of the world, you know,
which isn't too bad out of one hundred and something
thousand people, But I almost I want to finish higher
(21:20):
in the Mad Monday Monters group. Yeah, because you see
these people every day no, I never do. Oh the
mad Monday Month mounts the open group that all the
listeners can join and we'll fire it up again next year.
I just want to be like top ten in that
for some reason. But I think I'm thirty fourth. But
the issue is thirty fifth. Sorry. The issue is you
can't play overall and head to head and do a
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good job of both. I found I've been half passing
either all season. Yeah, and like doing things due to matchups,
like I'll be watching playing you, for example, and I'll
make a stupid captain decision because you're captaining the same
guy and I need to win and just like take
a chance. Was overall that Rexia? Yeah, and so I've
and that out in the office. Who was on the
coverage pulling the fingers in an Eels jersey. He was
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because I'm playing him this week. He was giving me shits.
And also he was saying he might have an overall
team next year and a head to head team, which
is way too much number management for me, although great
news for his girlfriend, because that's right. Yeah. My theory
is any man who has more than one fantasy team
is not cheating on his misses because it's just too
much to manage. I should get another one, Missus, just
another messas. Yeah, because nobody doing one fantasy team. You're
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only doing one missus. Head to hear missus. I needed
overall Missus. I've already got the overall. But actually, so anyway,
each week we generally try to go through your buys sells,
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your drops in your buyers, et cetera. I think the
drops are clear this week that this the buys of
the hard ones. Well, this is where it's sort of
going to be the difference maker, isn't it Because a
lot of people have a lot of the players, like
a lot of people had pain hearts. Did you have them?
I literally brought him in last week? Yeah, and like
shit literally literally yeah. I think fifty percent of all
super coaches had pain hearts. Yeah, and so he's now gone.
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How are you going to replace him? Because this is
the biggest thing people are toying with here. Are you
thinking Adam fanoa blake or are you thinking go safe
Joey Tarpini? Yeah, well I think Jay Taps is the
most broadened just plug a mid man. I know the
thing is, I, as I said, I've switched to head
to hit. I'm facing up against our producer Adam Pulmono,
who's not in here right now. And is this like
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a low key super Coach gun without really meaning to
be Yeah, he his pendulum swinging up and I'd say
mind swinging down. But I so I have edin fanoa
blake and I need to fire a shot this week
or this could be my last week if he had
to hit super Coach And do you have where do
you have like a if you lose this week, you've
got another chance? Don't think so? Right? So it's all nothing,
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So what are you thinking? Well, I have so I
have six trades, great position to be and i'ven't got
three and I have two hundred and sixty nine thousand
dollars up my sleep because I was aiming to get
Christen in next week. I'm gonna predict you're gonna get
Okay Mitch Barnett, Yes, because he's expensive. He's eight hundred
and some that he is eight hundred and twenty six.
But I just was looking at them and I was like, yeah,
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Joey Tappane, he scored ninety eight last week. This week
just been I think he scored well the week before
that too, but I need guaranteed high numbers, and that's
Mitch Barnett. Yes, it doesn't matter what who you're playing against,
doesn't matter, you know, Mitch Barnett just shows up and
does a job. So his like three or five round
average is about ninety or something. He's playing out of
his skill. Oh yeah, might even been more than that.
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It's it is ridiculous. So yeah, I'm gonna bring Mitch Barnett.
And but I do think if you've got haus nine
times out of ten, just brings up in. That's that's
a clear difference between overall and head to head right there,
because if you're going overall, don't bring Mitch Barney. I've
already got him, which is great, but don't bring him
in because they don't play around twenty seven. Yeah, so
you're getting a guy for four out of what it
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might be five four games, whereas any play four. Whereas
you could get Joey Tarpini for five. Yeah, or if
you didn't have him, to be honest, like you could
get Ponger, you could get to disco like you could
get Yeah, well this is this is the next this
is the next thing. So everyone's got pain hearts. So
you're going your throat, going all in with Mitch Barnett. Yeah.
The next thing that's happened is Dom Young's gone down,
but the roosters are on a by Yeah, so I'm
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gonna leave Dom Young because he could be back next week.
Anything could happen. And the amount of times I fucked
myself this year by being like I'm gonna get ahead
of the curve, yeah, because my team was doing well
and I tried to snowball that win the winning into
like getting even further ahead, and he turned a winner
to a loss. I was doing things like jumping on
Cleary that first time when he came back from the hammer,
then he was out again. I jumped on Nico Hines
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when he came back Beauty broke his leak. Yeah, you know.
So I've been doing shit like that and it has
really come back to bite me in these last few weeks.
So you go full conservative. So I'm going conservative. Having
said that, I'm gonna follow my own advice from last week,
where I said, if you want to fire a shot
this week, try bringing cam Munster and see how he goes.
Now he went sixty three him in last week. Yeah, fine,
sixty three is about part of the course for a
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five eighth. Yeah, I was hoping he would really fire
a proper shot, and then I wouldn't because what I
did is brought him in when he was sixty grand
more expensive than he is now, because he had a
huge break even. I reckon he can get over one
hundred against the dragons, and then they lost to the dragon. Yeah,
and so I'm going to bring him in now. Yeah,
I reckon. I saw some he looked good. I saw
some stats about liftedges, the rabbit os and blah blah blah.
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It's all hard. Who cares? I still think that's firing
a shot to bring munster And what's upside, guys, isn't it. Yeah,
Dylan Brown's my other half, so I'm not too worried
about that. Ali Cartore's are the worrying news. Yeah, and
he's out. So he's out. Obviously a lot of people
have Angus Crichton, so he's on the by the good
news is people that had all a kwaisu that he's
(26:46):
now playing again. He was suspended. However, a lot of
people also had both Firmore, who's now injured. Yeah, so
a lot of people are probably gonna have to bring
in a back row this week. I would say, though,
that most teams have an abundance of back rowers because
there have been some great back rows the second half
of the season. So there is a chance that you've
been absolutely ravaged. But you know, like for me, I've
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got forfeeda Burbo. You've still got Burber, I've got Colin
the tonguey. Yeah, but yeah, that's good. I do have
Josh Curran, who has been named but apparently injured. Yeah,
that he was. He went down holding his shoulder right,
So he seems like the kind of guy that would
just strap himself up, take a couple of panadole and
(27:28):
get out there. Though. Yeah, that's right, and that's sort
of what I'm banking on because if he doesn't time
and deep shit, well, the good thing about Josh Curran is,
and this is something people should consider, is for the
run home, I think the Cowboys might have one more buy,
which is a bit of a risk. But someone like
Ruben Cotter, who can play front row and back row,
he's injured as well. Is he not playing this week?
I don't. I think he's back this week. Oh okay,
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I mean Fortunately, we've had plenty of times to prepare.
He's in at thirteen. So and the reason I suggest
Ruben Cotter is because there's no origin or anything. He
has to play that play for like where they're going
to stop in the eight, where where they're going to set,
and he can be front row or second row. So
if any injuries happened and you're low on trades and
you need to bring someone in, bringing in a dual
position to play it safe can be a good option.
(28:11):
Or fire a shot and bring in a big gun. Yeah,
they go Cowboys play Broncos Raiders who suck at the moment.
The Broncos they do suck at the moment, and then
they've got the buy, then they've got the storm, and
then they round out the season with the Bulldogs. So yeah,
I don't know. I was The other option I had
was Tommy Dirden as well. But yeah, I don't think
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there are any clear buyers. I think if you can't
be asked thinking about front row of wood and you
got hars, just goes happen there and then other than that,
patch it up where you can Ali Caarto. I if
you I thought about just going cart or to Crichton
because I need Crichton as well, but I don't know
if I will get him because who knows what's going
to happen over the next week. You know, Crichton could
(28:53):
break his neck and training. You just don't know. But
also we might also find out that Ali Carto it
is just the saying he's been rested because of his knee. Yeah,
we don't know if it is arresting, or it could
come out that actually he's out for six weeks, you know,
like we don't know what the story is yet. No,
we don't. So any other clear buys for you, KAYLM
pong Oh, Yes, So here's my strategy for the rest
of the season. I have Kalyn Ponger. I am all in.
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Oh when did you bring him in last week against
It was a few weeks ago now, right, Okay? So
I am officially all in on the Knights from here
on out. So if the Knights go well, they're playing
the Tigers this week. By the way, they have got
the best stretch of games They've got. Three of those
games are at home, and they're all pretty easy with
teams to play against that allow a lot of points.
Knights Sharks. They then play the rabbit Os. They then
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turn around and play the Tits, and they finished this
season against the Dolphins. That's right. So these are teams
that all are allowing like quite high scoring games. I
am all in on them. I am all in on
Ponger hopefully having another tier like at the end of
last season. I've got I've got Origin Gags who's definitely
not Origin Gags at the moment. Have you got Ma,
I've got Greg, Marju and I' It was even toying
(30:00):
up bringing in like another night just to go really
all in on them. But those are my three boys
and I need them. I've also got Jaden Brayley as
my rezeve hooker. But if the nights go well, I'm
gonna go well, and I should be able to get
through this hit to head finals stage, hitching your wag
into the night. But also I had I had Pappenhausen,
who scored eleven against the Dragons. Yeah, has been tough
this season. Like when you watch him, when you watch
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a game of rugby league and you see a player
and you go far out he looks great. I have
to have him in my team. The opposite of that,
is what's happening with Pappenhausen. I watch him and I
go he's not getting involved. He's passing the ball a lot.
When he does get the ball in space, he tries
to run but isn't as fast anymore because of his injuries. Granted,
and he gets five injections on his foot before every game.
I think, if you've got Pappy, even though they've got
(30:43):
a good run home, get off them to Pomo. It's
not it's only one hundred thousand more. I think pong
is cheap. Yeah, and chances they're going to need someone
to cover the like you probably have to disco as well,
so Teddy and Pommer. Yeah, captain c Now. All seasons
I've been saying, look, if you've got clear and he's going,
captain him, but you may need to try and win
your league. Well, this is the thing. Week he's playing
(31:05):
like the third game of the round, maybe Friday night
or something, So chuck a v on him and just
sit a reminder or something to double check and make
sure you do the loop properly because he's playing so
early and everyone's going to captain Cleary, right, I don't know.
Here's my other shot that I'm prepared to fire, right,
I think you, I think you might agree with me.
(31:26):
Pong is playing the Tigers. Oh yeah, he's my captain
and Clari's my vice captain. Yeah. I think that's probably
the way I'm going to do it, and I will
fuck up the VC loop. What okay, what does clearly
have to score for you to not captain Ponger? Because
I saw I had this last week. I like to
think over one hundred and twenty, I'd be like, oh, yeah, okay,
(31:47):
I had this exact problem last week with vale Home
scored one hundred and thirty six and he was my
vice kept That was on Thursday night game. Yeah, and
you stuck with Cleary though who got ninety? Who got ninety?
But then whoever you brought in, if you'd done the
VC loop probably would have scored. Your lowest scoring player
would have got hardly anything. So it comes kind of
comes out in the wash. I think about one thirty
is sort of the Yeah, if it's over one thirty,
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you should do it. So you vice captain Cleary and
if he goes for one of those like one fifty
one eighty games, that's right. Yeah, Okay, that's the way.
That's the way I think everyone should play it. And
if you don't have either of those dudes, you probably
not listen to this podcast. And also if you don't
know how to do it, just bring one of your
roosters and it's on the by, yeah, after Cleary's game,
and captain him, and then your lowest scoring person on
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the bench who isn't reserved, their points will count instead
of the guy on the by, which last week for
me would have been I think for me it was
David Moaly for the rabbit Os. He's scored forty three
or something. Oh, none of my other dudes scored. Sweet,
so you've got a free VC loop potentially, yeah, because
your lowest scoring would have been the guy that you
(32:50):
took out, oh which would have stayed, which would have
been Dom Young just thirty. So yeah, yeah, so it
is anyway. Yeah, so that's how I'm going to play it.
I think Vice Captain Cleary kept in punger or if
you're feeling a bit nervous, just kept in clear and
don't worry about it. The issue you've got with VC
loops is that your VC is always on a Saturday night. Yep,
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And like traditionally looking back at the calendar Saturday nights,
and I fit into this mold as well. You're usually
quite steamed, and so you're in a position where you
all of a sudden have to do some advanced mathematics
and do a VC loop hungover, all hung over the
next day, you can't even be bothered looking at the
app until the game started, and then you realize, Yeah,
so it's a real dangerous thing to play with. That
genuinely had it where I've been out for dinner and
(33:32):
I'm like, oh fuck, I don't I didn't VC loop.
Actually you and I was somewhere it might have even
been in Bali. We're in Balley on a boat, almost dying,
and I was like, oh fuck. And you go, you
forgot to do the VCS because you're on your phone
looking at something. You went, oh fuck, I did. Yeah, yeah,
I did the same thing. Yeah. That's why it's so risky.
(33:53):
It's not because it's hard to do. You just forget.
It's because it's hard to hear you get a factor
in real life anyway. Okay, that's how we're going to
play it this week. Good luck to all of you
who are competing in the Supercoach. This weekend, we are
going to take one last break and when we come back,
we're going to put our hunch together. Well, welcome back
into the podcast. I'm just scrolling back through the the
(34:14):
bet slip on the tab account because I think that
we were you put together one of the all time hunches,
one of the all time five parts last week. I
loved it and it's something I think we need to
do more of. Last week, Chris's hunch was every player
who had been linked to leaving their club at the
end of the season to score in the game. So
(34:37):
it was Blade the Lungy, Dylan Walker, and Jessavanger. Now
two of those players will come off the bench or
at least play reduced minutes. Yeah, and Dylan Walker got
injured pretty early doors. Yeah, and Jesseevunger did not score.
Blaster Lungion did he scored? Yeah. I was a big
fan of that. Fifteen thousand dollars. So if that had
(34:57):
come in with one hundred dollars bonus bet, that would
have been all time. But it didn't happen. It didn't
even look like happening. No, is there anything Jeez is
sewn Johnson The Vibe this week, Seawan Johnson retiring. I
think Sean Johnson two or more tries, Shawn Johnson two
or more. I love it to score two or more tries.
(35:18):
But I've just pulled that out of my ass right now.
I want you to know. Everyone pulls all of their
beds right out of their ass. Sewan Johnson, they have
two or more tries at fourteen dollars. Yeah, he'll be
brimming Fuck it, we're on. He'll be AJ Brimson, He'll
be AJ Brimming's son. And I am gonna place this
bit before we even walk out of the studio. That's
going on right now. That is our heart, Sewan Johnson.
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To score two or more tries that is fourteen dollars
if you want them at any time, that will knit
you three dollars forty five, which I don't mind either.
I see it when I close my eyes, I can
see it. I can see him right foot step dotting
down under the post and like doing the big arm,
the Tiger Woods arms and all of the boys jumping
all over him as the Warriors go down forty two
(36:01):
to sixteen against the Dolphins. I'm just joking. I can't
see it happening. I can picture it now. It has
to happen twice. So that's our thank you very much
for joining us for the Mad Monday podcast. Myself and
CAZy the Cursed commentary crew will be on four pm
to watch Shawn Johnson score those two tries against the
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Dolphins on Sunday. Yeah, Sunday game on Sunday. We'll see
you there. By Australia without rugby league. He's not Australia, right,
I'm good afternoon, and welcome back to the Mad Monday Podcast,
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My name is Tin Monnayawi. I'm joined by Edin Fanua
Kezy this afternoon afternoon crsshagging on Matte really good, really
good man. I I mean I have just looked down
at our schedule and seen that you and I are
(00:29):
commentating this Sunday, Yeah, the Dolphins. I've also looked at
our record and that we've never commentated a loss all season.
We've never commentated a work. Sorry there was another loss
right there. And I've also looked at hundreds of comments
and texts over the last couple of months saying ban
those two from doing commentaries together. Yes, completely, Yeah, unfortunately
(00:51):
been and Diana available. He's stuck with us. If anyone's
did the illusions how this works? If they aren't available,
we come on. That's one hundred see how it We're Yeah,
and did you hear that people were saying talking about
the axis of Evil at the game on Friday night?
So when we took on the Eels, Yeah, you were
(01:11):
commentating that's right, which was a massive commentator's curse. Yes.
Plus Matt Heath was in attendance and drinking red wine. Yes,
and he did a post about the penon WI did
a post about the Pens from the ground. Yes, and
G Lane was an atendant. So the g Lane curse.
The Warriors never had a chance. Why Why Like I
am fully prepared to just be like I am a curse. Yeah.
(01:35):
But however, last season we commentated allmost a shitload of
games and we will win it. Yeah. But do I
just stand down from the commentary and just you just
do them all? No? Because I also have commentated eight games,
seven losses, one win, so there's no win there either.
It was extra deflating driving out to Mount Smart, walking
in there, going up to the thing, seeing Trent Barrett
(01:55):
going in a photo on the field. But join us
for tonight's game and then just boom, another huge commentator's curse.
Game lost massively. Yeah. I just I know that it's
a fan base that's hurting, and so they're looking for
anything to blame it on. The Other thing is I
hate when the Warriors, like up until last year, they
would always be like, oh, Warriors have a dismal record,
against this team. It's like, yeah, we have a dismal
(02:16):
record against most teams, every single team, Yeah, pretty much.
So it's not like a massive particularly during that COVID
era that we've already digested the Friday game. I just
wanted to bring up the old the curse thing there.
We're here to break down the team list that is
going to get us back on track, because not even
just not even just mathematically, I think I've been too
down on the team, thinking we cannot make the eight. Yeah,
(02:38):
but that's because people are be doing in correct maths. Yeah,
because we can't. We have the buy at the end,
your bloody tack those points on. Now. The long and
short of it is, we do need to win every
single game from here on out. Four games so far
plus to buy. If you look at the table which
I'm bringing up right now, we're thirteenth on twenty one points.
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So you tack the buy onto this. I know we
do this every week. We're up to twenty three, which
puts us in eleventh place. We win, we are on
twenty five and that is good enough for ninth. Yeah, right, okay,
so we're just knocking on the door there. Yeah, And
that's after this week, mind you. So I don't think
it's ridiculous. And I have already seen a few Ossie
pundits who actually know rugby league say not only could
(03:19):
they make the eight, I think the Warriors will still
make the eighth. Wow, which I think could be clickbait
absolutely because they know that Kiwis will click on that. Absolutely.
But these are the same like do you remember the
start of the season, Aussie pundits were all about the Warriors. Yeah,
they were predicting massive things for them. So and I
think we are all still predicting. But until we are
(03:40):
running out of back line that isn't I don't know. Well,
this is the back line that has been run out
against Wayne Bennett's Dolphins, which I would like to remind
you are ninth so and they're on a downward slide.
But they scored thirty whatever points against the Roosters at
the weekend. They are just so hard to be on
any given day they could score so many points against us.
(04:02):
Oh yeah, And so the Warriors teamless reads Dusty Shanes,
Nicol Klushta, He's going to be in number one, Dell
and Wa Tennis Lesnia will be and the number two
Jersey ali Leta attains his center spot, but Moeler Graham
Toolfer has been dropped, so Roger's in there, and then
the Kazi club comes back on the other wing, Roger
back to center. This is obviously I wouldn't say a
(04:25):
vote of no confidence in Mayler Graham Toolf for but
I just think, I mean, he's he's been dropped in there. Well,
he's had two games for the what maybe three, and
from what I remember, his debut was excellent, as a
lot of those players who have come on for us
this year has been been excellent. And his next game
against the Eels was one of the worst games I've
seen a Warrior playing a long time. He just missed
(04:45):
so many tackles, dropped the ball so much, and it
was just a clear example of a young Fewler not
quite being ready yet pas needed and like all of
a sudden he's playing center in a game where it's
must win and it's a pack stadium, you know what
I mean, Like he just wasn't quite ready so and
leaked a couple I feel like one of those tries,
uh just comes straight through his channel and they were
(05:06):
just through. I was saying on the Monday podcast. When
we went down by like two three tries very quickly,
I basically tourn my back on the game and hit
the buffet. We were in the corporate box. Yeah, I
was gonna come with you guys in the corporate box
as well, but I was just too down, like with
the realization with thirty minutes to go that we weren't
coming back. And then all of a sudden, you've got
thirty minutes of trying to like simultaneously make the audience
(05:26):
laugh and also make because Die is gutted. Die his
emotions are one hundred percent reliant on how the Warriors go. Yeah,
I'm just saying he drops the lip when you two
commentate that. He's very proficional obviously, but I know how
much it means to him, you know what I mean.
And so thirty minutes of trying to like, you know,
read out deck jokes on three two three sects or whatever,
and yeah, you know, have some fun. You did get
(05:48):
like an eight minute street right at the end. Yes,
but it was sort of like, it's so hard to
get excited for that when you know, well I got angry.
It was like, oh, so now we're scoring points. Oh,
just quickly while we were on here as well. I
didn't talk about it Die. What was the light situation
going on in in the box? I've never seen Die
that worried before what was happening. So I showed up
(06:08):
to that little commentary cupboard and the lights were off
and I was like why and I turned the lights on.
Oh that's bitter. And then two minutes later, a guy
in full eels uniform comes down and goes, hey, can
we turn those lights off? And I was like, oh, yeah,
no worries because your light switch controls our coaches box
and Trent Barrett doesn't want the lights on because when
the camera cuts to them, they want the lights off
so you can't see them because they've been hounding him
(06:30):
obviously because hes given the sack and they're playing like shit.
And then all of a sudden, it was just like
this amazing opportunity to if they and we've got the
live feed, if they cut to the coach's box, I
could flick the lights on and off a few times
and it would be hilarious. Die was not for it
at all, yeah, because I think he was picturing all
this hard work we've gone through to finally been commentating
(06:51):
a Warriors game at Mount Smart and then me ruining
it with a light gag. So were the lights? The
lights were off for your commentary? Off the commentary because
they want when they cut to the coach's box, they
wanted it to be dark in this he couldn't really
see them to like to not encourage the cameras to
keep cutting back and then but imagine they cut to
Trent Barrett and just one light on light off. That
(07:14):
would have been hilarious. I reckon on off, then just
when he loses the plot, back on again. As soon
as he goes the fuckers going hold of these lights,
that's when you flick them back on. But the good
thing about this light switches, it's gonna be like that
for every game. Yeah, So at some point, Craig Belly,
we flecked the lights. If he comes back next season,
I'm not sure what he's doing, but or we just
(07:35):
peck a moment, recky Stuart. He sits on the sideline,
he does see because he's had the lights. He's had
the lights before and he's not about that. But next
time there's a coach and maybe we're pumping them. Yeah,
little light switch with have sandstorm ready to go on
our commentary or if we know that we're about to
get kicked out of there again. Wow, exactly, and for
(07:55):
some reason the relationship between us and then gets really bad. Yeah,
Chanelle Harris to will be in the number six jersey.
And actually, because the news came out after we recorded
the podcast on Monday, we haven't talked about this. Sean
the fourth last game for the Warriors, fourth last game
for Sean Johnson. How instant reaction from you? Well, were
you surprised that? My first gut reaction was absolutely heartbroken
(08:20):
for myself because I'd just spent forty minutes on the
podcast and I don't think he's going to retire because
because I was on Mad Monday straight afterwards, Oh, right
straight after, I was like, he's been he's had contracts
thrown at him from other teams, so presumably he's been
given a contract and we've found out since that yea
he had from the Warriors. Yeah, And I was like,
(08:41):
when someone puts a contract with hundreds of thousands of
dollars in front of you, you don't turn it down.
Wells walked out of that podca, boy was it? We
don't turn it down. Yeah, that's right. Sean Johnson doesn't care.
I said this the lane on the Gender podcast. I
was like, it's a ordering amount of money. He's like, oh,
it's not that much. I said, if I walked in
here and asked you for they just paid Seawan Johnson,
your eyes would water. It's not that much. What kind
(09:04):
of a bullshit? Commented, that's a huge amount of money. Yeah,
that's a huge amount of money. And then what I
realized actually was there's something I've known for a long time.
How rich you are isn't how much money you have,
it's how much money you can say no to. That's
a really good point. And he can say no to
a lot of money. Evidently there's such a good point.
Has done. He's also got other options as well, so
God bliss him. I think athletes don't often get a
(09:27):
chance to decide when they want to retire, So if
you do, then you should. Yeah. And also all time
great Hall of Fame warrior. He's one of those like
Benji Marshall types of saying this. I think I was
on Hadaki I was saying he's one of those guys like, yeah,
Benji Marshall, I can't even think of Stacey or but
(09:47):
you type in Skucks into YouTube and a half an
hour highlights package is going to come up. Or sunny Bill.
You're at a party and someone doesn't know about league,
and you go, have you seen Shaw Johnson? Go? Nah,
you fire up a twenty minute highlights but he have
Sewan Johnson. Yeah, he's one of those guys that you
show highlights of to really showcase how fucking amazing the game,
the game campaign awesome it can be. So he's one
of the coolest players that's ever but he also hasn't really,
(10:09):
in my opinion, lived up to that potential yet, which
last season was awesome. Yeah, and I think it's his injury.
He must be injured this year. Yeah, he must be.
And knowing that next year it'll be similar to this year,
you do. This is how every athlete's career ends, that
all of a sudden start getting injuries that they used
to bounce back from and that don't anymore. But you're right,
he's been involved in every incredible Warriors moment for the
(10:34):
last decade, and you know, all of the highlights have
been played around you know, him steping dudes and scoring
tries for the Kiwis for the Warriors. I think was
it him that put the kick in for a man
that caught it and did a backflip and then through
the I think it probably was, Yeah, I think it
was so. Yeah. He has left a massive mark on
(10:58):
on the Warriors organization, the Warriors club. It's it's a
weird one because Tomodie Martin's now been dropped. But you
would presume that he's going to be the halfback for
the Warriors next year. How no, no, how early? It
is too early to just give a teenage of the
keys to the entire franchise. Oh, Jet Cleary, weel then
(11:19):
and say you see this, this is yours now fucking
save us? Or do we give it to Luke Metcalf
and say yeah he's that. Yeah, definitely. He said he's
always wanted to play half back. Oh really yeah. So
I don't know. I think there's a few options. It's
not like we're short on anything. Well, no, we're not
short on options. What we're short on is having a
(11:40):
chance to play these options together for an extended period
of time. There's so many interruptions with injuries. How do
you think it plays out for the next four weeks.
Do you think that him announcing his retirement at Bolsters
the Boys? Do you think it's a distraction. I like
to think I just called him the boys by the way.
Yeah it's a good Yeah, you know, I'm part of
the Boys as West Sweet. We can do it. How
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do you think we go for the next four weeks?
I reckon, Well, certainly, the impact it had on me
and I think I can speak on behalf of the
rest of the team was I was like, Fuck, we're
gonna start winning. I feel like, all of a sudden,
Shawn Johnson's stepping down four games left a chance to
really end his career and like with a high, not
that he hasn't finished on a high last I mean
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last year was amazing. He's and to go from pretty
much the Delian when and Kadam pong Is stealing it
and retiring a year later is pretty crazy. Well yeah,
but people were calling for him to retire the year
before that. Oh and I was probably part of for
a wee bit there when we were going horrifically. Yeah,
that's just the stuff you do when you're emotional after
another Warriors lost. But I feel like, hopefully it does
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make our players stand up and at least just play
with some heart and like make those tackles that we've
been sort of half aass on and yeah, just things
like that. It makes us play a bit better. And yeah,
it's a theme for the rest of the seasons. Send
Sja off in style, absolutely, because you want to be
part of those highlights in that last game and those
last few games, you know, they are all I mean,
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there's only one more home game left, but that's a sellout,
I reckon. The other ones are going to draw massive
crowds because we travel well. But yeah, I think that
Shawn Johnson is going to go well over these next
four weeks. I hope he stays healthy for these four weeks.
You're saying you're gonna bring him into your Super Coach
Team final send off. I wouldn't. I would think about it. Yeah,
I've thought about it, but that would mean dropping Nathan Cleary.
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Ah nah, you know so anyway, we're still naming the teamless. Yeah,
the Ford Packs unchanged Adam Wadegan Barnett MA to Kurt
Dylan Walker at thirteen and then the bench fretty lastic,
Tom Aley, Jess Tevanga. Good to see him back. From
that hamstring injury and Liquor Hala Sema is going to
be on the bench as well, which I think is great.
He's had a great season so far. Liquor, Yeah, he's
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been great. They're just the three games that he's played, well,
the three games for eight minutes that he's played, Like,
just use them. We've got these fellows. Just freaking use them,
you know. Yeah, for sure still does my head. But anyway,
he won't get on the field, soorry about it. Eighteenth
man is not on your sheet, but eighteenth man is
to mighty Mutton. Interesting, do again, what does that tell you? Well,
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to be on nothing? Yeah, there's absolutely nothing to be
read to that. He's just a utility player, isn't He
can play a cover a lot of cars. Ever tells
me anything? Is that? Maybe? Is it a way of
being like, hey, you're still one of the most important
players to us, and light of the news that Shawan
Johnson's retiring is with he's just like keeping him on
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the hook. Yeah, keeping him as we say, you know, like, hey,
you're so important to us that when me and the
missus on the rocks, right, I have a feeling next
year she's not going to be around, all right, trust me,
trust me. Now, I can't have you in the changing kids.
Obviously you understand that it's going to be too political,
but I still want you on the team. So just
hang around, stay in the corner, and all it's going
to take is two hit injuries and then boom you're back.
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That's right. You could be back this week. I don't know,
but you could be, if you know, depending on how
things go. So yeah, I think to Mighty Martin, I
don't know if you're gonna have a side piece. You
could do worse than oh, absolutely, And both on the
field and in the sheets. The thing that worries me is, sorry,
that was disrespectful the Dolphins. Sorry, it was really disable
to carry on. Is the Dolphins team? Just I know
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they've been on a bit of a slide. I'll be honest.
I was surprised to see them outside of the top
eight when I check the standings just then. But they,
like the Sharks, real hot start and then they've just
slowly tapering, but not fully tapering off. They are still
putting up a massive fight against these sides. No, in
this team that I'm about to read you, it's not
missing any massive players, so the hammer at full wack.
(15:40):
Who when I look at that, I have visions already
of him tearing us to bits and him just doing
the scoring and then doing the arm thing that he does,
which is so cool. By the way, Jemina Suckle is
going to be on the wing if he plays. If
he plays, he what did he ankle? Really nasty ankle.
But I think he has to get through training literally
today and then should know by tonight whether or not
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he's playing. Jake Evarillo, who's been going well, he's probably
our weak point to run through. He lets in a
lot of tries. Herbsley Farnslington Worth the third he will
be in the fourth Jersey. And Jack Bostock, who's been
going very well this year. A little whipp it that dude,
that whole left side. Isaiah Katara, who's still very young,
(16:24):
is such a gun. He's got that left side clicking man. Yeah.
And Jack Bostock has been scoring so many tries things
to that. I reckon he's gonna be a gun next year. Yeah,
I think so too. Cody Niicarrima is in at the
sixth Jersey. The forward pack is Jesse Brominch, Max Plath,
who's starting at hooker. He started the season when he
first came in at five eighth. He's been playing in
the second row. He's been playing lock. He played a lot. Yeah,
and this is for a Wayne Bennett coach team. I
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love that. So that tells you Max Plath is a
rugby league player one hundred percent. I don't care what
Jersey's got on. Just get him out there. And the
funny thing, he played in the halves his entire like
junior age group and everything. He's a half back in
five eight. He's just a big bastards as the thing,
he's a rectangle, but he's also really skilled and he
can tackle really well, so he's just the full package.
Shawn rugby league player retired professional boxer Tavita punk I
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Junior will be starting in the number ten Jersey and
like I'm going to take another victory lap. He had
brought him in as soon as he came back out
of retirement and he's gone great guns for me. He's
injured now, isn't he, Tavenda? Yeah? Is he not playing
this week? Did he play last week? I don't think
he did. I think he had an injury. We'll double
check this after the ad break, we'll fact check, fact
check right now. Fell Connelly, Limouelu and Kenny Bromich is
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going to be in the thirteen Jersey. I've got a
hell of a bench. Aaron Keeley, Mark Nichols, Ray Stone
who I don't think I could tell a part if
they're standing next to each other. And then Shaan O'Sullivan,
the teacher's bet is going to be in there as well. Manaia.
Who the hell is Aarn Keeley? I don't know. I
bet he's a gun though? What if Old Bennett likes him.
Tavita punk I Jr. Did not play last week. He
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has been named to start this week. I think he
just had a one week off situation. So yeah, that
is the teamless as I look at it. I am
gonna be one hundred percent honest with you and you
at home. I think we're gonna lose this week. I
think we I think we're going to as well. And
can I just say I really and we both do
we really hope that we're proven wrong, but just based
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on how the Warriors played against the Eels, based on
like Cossi coming in on the wing and Roger's shifting
back to center. Like, I don't feel super positive, but
if the boys can step up and really, you know,
step up to the streets, step up to the streets,
and honor of Seann Johnson in his final four games,
yeah shit, it would really just get And also honor
the on the treaty. But honor the treaty first of
(18:42):
all on the jersey, yeah. Second of all, honor your
fucking put it. And then finally after that, honor the
fans who have broken the record for the first time
an entire season has been sold out like that is incredible,
is incredible. It also means that you can't buy tickets anymore.
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We need to take a quick break and we come back.
We're going to try and make heads and tales of
what to do in the waning stages of Supercoach season. Chris,
I know you're keen to join the ACC team for
a massive rugby league weekend in March of twenty twenty five.
And it's the first weekend of March and twenty twenty
five as well in Nevada. Yeah, in Nevada. Yeah, Okay,
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there's a massive, yeah, massive weekend of league going on
in Nevada, first weekend of March. Not the big city
there with all the neons of the yeah, yeah, yeah,
is it there? That's the one. Yeah. I don't know
if New Zealand rugby league teams ever played there. Oh look,
I don't think so. No, not in recent memory. No,
not certainly, not last year. But they are next year.
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You joke it and if you can be, if you
want to be there, you can takes Vegas to three
two three six to book your spot. There's a spear
spot going because I'm not going who's so to be
Healley and Dy are already going out they yeah, right,
sounds like, oh, Kizy's going to Vegas. I meant Nevada.
Wait are we potentially avoiding the words Las Vegas? Is
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it one of those situations where we can't say, yeah,
the thing like the Olympics. Is it like that? Yeah,
although I just said Olympics. So Warriors in Las Vegas? Anyway,
Vegas three two three six. So we got this week, Chris.
If you're playing in a hit the Head league, you
will most likely be into your finals now. And I
know that's true for us. I think most people at
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this sort of time of the season, probably even a
couple of weeks ago, switch their attention from overall to
head to head when they realize they cannot win the overall. Well,
that's exactly where I am, yeah, one hundred percent. The
funny thing about overall, like, if I look at overall,
I'm ten thousand, three hundredth of the world, you know,
which isn't too bad out of one hundred and something
thousand people, But I almost I want to finish higher
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in the Mad Monday Monters group. Yeah, because you see
these people every day no, I never do. Oh the
mad Monday Month mounts the open group that all the
listeners can join and we'll fire it up again next year.
I just want to be like top ten in that
for some reason. But I think I'm thirty fourth. But
the issue is thirty fifth. Sorry. The issue is you
can't play overall and head to head and do a
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good job of both. I found I've been half passing
either all season. Yeah, and like doing things due to matchups,
like I'll be watching playing you, for example, and I'll
make a stupid captain decision because you're captaining the same
guy and I need to win and just like take
a chance. Was overall that Rexia? Yeah, and so I've
and that out in the office. Who was on the
coverage pulling the fingers in an Eels jersey. He was
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because I'm playing him this week. He was giving me shits.
And also he was saying he might have an overall
team next year and a head to head team, which
is way too much number management for me, although great
news for his girlfriend, because that's right. Yeah. My theory
is any man who has more than one fantasy team
is not cheating on his misses because it's just too
much to manage. I should get another one, Missus, just
another messas. Yeah, because nobody doing one fantasy team. You're
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only doing one missus. Head to hear missus. I needed
overall Missus. I've already got the overall. But actually, so anyway,
each week we generally try to go through your buys sells,
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your drops in your buyers, et cetera. I think the
drops are clear this week that this the buys of
the hard ones. Well, this is where it's sort of
going to be the difference maker, isn't it Because a
lot of people have a lot of the players, like
a lot of people had pain hearts. Did you have them?
I literally brought him in last week? Yeah, and like
shit literally literally yeah. I think fifty percent of all
super coaches had pain hearts. Yeah, and so he's now gone.
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How are you going to replace him? Because this is
the biggest thing people are toying with here. Are you
thinking Adam fanoa blake or are you thinking go safe
Joey Tarpini? Yeah, well I think Jay Taps is the
most broadened just plug a mid man. I know the
thing is, I, as I said, I've switched to head
to hit. I'm facing up against our producer Adam Pulmono,
who's not in here right now. And is this like
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a low key super Coach gun without really meaning to
be Yeah, he his pendulum swinging up and I'd say
mind swinging down. But I so I have edin fanoa
blake and I need to fire a shot this week
or this could be my last week if he had
to hit super Coach And do you have where do
you have like a if you lose this week, you've
got another chance? Don't think so? Right? So it's all nothing,
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So what are you thinking? Well, I have so I
have six trades, great position to be and i'ven't got
three and I have two hundred and sixty nine thousand
dollars up my sleep because I was aiming to get
Christen in next week. I'm gonna predict you're gonna get
Okay Mitch Barnett, Yes, because he's expensive. He's eight hundred
and some that he is eight hundred and twenty six.
But I just was looking at them and I was like, yeah,
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Joey Tappane, he scored ninety eight last week. This week
just been I think he scored well the week before
that too, but I need guaranteed high numbers, and that's
Mitch Barnett. Yes, it doesn't matter what who you're playing against,
doesn't matter, you know, Mitch Barnett just shows up and
does a job. So his like three or five round
average is about ninety or something. He's playing out of
his skill. Oh yeah, might even been more than that.
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It's it is ridiculous. So yeah, I'm gonna bring Mitch Barnett.
And but I do think if you've got haus nine
times out of ten, just brings up in. That's that's
a clear difference between overall and head to head right there,
because if you're going overall, don't bring Mitch Barney. I've
already got him, which is great, but don't bring him
in because they don't play around twenty seven. Yeah, so
you're getting a guy for four out of what it
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might be five four games, whereas any play four. Whereas
you could get Joey Tarpini for five. Yeah, or if
you didn't have him, to be honest, like you could
get Ponger, you could get to disco like you could
get Yeah, well this is this is the next this
is the next thing. So everyone's got pain hearts. So
you're going your throat, going all in with Mitch Barnett. Yeah.
The next thing that's happened is Dom Young's gone down,
but the roosters are on a by Yeah, so I'm
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gonna leave Dom Young because he could be back next week.
Anything could happen. And the amount of times I fucked
myself this year by being like I'm gonna get ahead
of the curve, yeah, because my team was doing well
and I tried to snowball that win the winning into
like getting even further ahead, and he turned a winner
to a loss. I was doing things like jumping on
Cleary that first time when he came back from the hammer,
then he was out again. I jumped on Nico Hines
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when he came back Beauty broke his leak. Yeah, you know.
So I've been doing shit like that and it has
really come back to bite me in these last few weeks.
So you go full conservative. So I'm going conservative. Having
said that, I'm gonna follow my own advice from last week,
where I said, if you want to fire a shot
this week, try bringing cam Munster and see how he goes.
Now he went sixty three him in last week. Yeah, fine,
sixty three is about part of the course for a
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five eighth. Yeah, I was hoping he would really fire
a proper shot, and then I wouldn't because what I
did is brought him in when he was sixty grand
more expensive than he is now, because he had a
huge break even. I reckon he can get over one
hundred against the dragons, and then they lost to the dragon. Yeah,
and so I'm going to bring him in now. Yeah,
I reckon. I saw some he looked good. I saw
some stats about liftedges, the rabbit os and blah blah blah.
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It's all hard. Who cares? I still think that's firing
a shot to bring munster And what's upside, guys, isn't it. Yeah,
Dylan Brown's my other half, so I'm not too worried
about that. Ali Cartore's are the worrying news. Yeah, and
he's out. So he's out. Obviously a lot of people
have Angus Crichton, so he's on the by the good
news is people that had all a kwaisu that he's
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now playing again. He was suspended. However, a lot of
people also had both Firmore, who's now injured. Yeah, so
a lot of people are probably gonna have to bring
in a back row this week. I would say, though,
that most teams have an abundance of back rowers because
there have been some great back rows the second half
of the season. So there is a chance that you've
been absolutely ravaged. But you know, like for me, I've
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got forfeeda Burbo. You've still got Burber, I've got Colin
the tonguey. Yeah, but yeah, that's good. I do have
Josh Curran, who has been named but apparently injured. Yeah,
that he was. He went down holding his shoulder right,
So he seems like the kind of guy that would
just strap himself up, take a couple of panadole and
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get out there. Though. Yeah, that's right, and that's sort
of what I'm banking on because if he doesn't time
and deep shit, well, the good thing about Josh Curran is,
and this is something people should consider, is for the
run home, I think the Cowboys might have one more buy,
which is a bit of a risk. But someone like
Ruben Cotter, who can play front row and back row,
he's injured as well. Is he not playing this week?
I don't. I think he's back this week. Oh okay,
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I mean Fortunately, we've had plenty of times to prepare.
He's in at thirteen. So and the reason I suggest
Ruben Cotter is because there's no origin or anything. He
has to play that play for like where they're going
to stop in the eight, where where they're going to set,
and he can be front row or second row. So
if any injuries happened and you're low on trades and
you need to bring someone in, bringing in a dual
position to play it safe can be a good option.
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Or fire a shot and bring in a big gun. Yeah,
they go Cowboys play Broncos Raiders who suck at the moment.
The Broncos they do suck at the moment, and then
they've got the buy, then they've got the storm, and
then they round out the season with the Bulldogs. So yeah,
I don't know. I was The other option I had
was Tommy Dirden as well. But yeah, I don't think
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there are any clear buyers. I think if you can't
be asked thinking about front row of wood and you
got hars, just goes happen there and then other than that,
patch it up where you can Ali Caarto. I if
you I thought about just going cart or to Crichton
because I need Crichton as well, but I don't know
if I will get him because who knows what's going
to happen over the next week. You know, Crichton could
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break his neck and training. You just don't know. But
also we might also find out that Ali Carto it
is just the saying he's been rested because of his knee. Yeah,
we don't know if it is arresting, or it could
come out that actually he's out for six weeks, you know,
like we don't know what the story is yet. No,
we don't. So any other clear buys for you, KAYLM
pong Oh, Yes, So here's my strategy for the rest
of the season. I have Kalyn Ponger. I am all in.
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Oh when did you bring him in last week against
It was a few weeks ago now, right, Okay? So
I am officially all in on the Knights from here
on out. So if the Knights go well, they're playing
the Tigers this week. By the way, they have got
the best stretch of games They've got. Three of those
games are at home, and they're all pretty easy with
teams to play against that allow a lot of points.
Knights Sharks. They then play the rabbit Os. They then
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turn around and play the Tits, and they finished this
season against the Dolphins. That's right. So these are teams
that all are allowing like quite high scoring games. I
am all in on them. I am all in on
Ponger hopefully having another tier like at the end of
last season. I've got I've got Origin Gags who's definitely
not Origin Gags at the moment. Have you got Ma,
I've got Greg, Marju and I' It was even toying
(30:00):
up bringing in like another night just to go really
all in on them. But those are my three boys
and I need them. I've also got Jaden Brayley as
my rezeve hooker. But if the nights go well, I'm
gonna go well, and I should be able to get
through this hit to head finals stage, hitching your wag
into the night. But also I had I had Pappenhausen,
who scored eleven against the Dragons. Yeah, has been tough
this season. Like when you watch him, when you watch
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a game of rugby league and you see a player
and you go far out he looks great. I have
to have him in my team. The opposite of that,
is what's happening with Pappenhausen. I watch him and I
go he's not getting involved. He's passing the ball a lot.
When he does get the ball in space, he tries
to run but isn't as fast anymore because of his injuries. Granted,
and he gets five injections on his foot before every game.
I think, if you've got Pappy, even though they've got
(30:43):
a good run home, get off them to Pomo. It's
not it's only one hundred thousand more. I think pong
is cheap. Yeah, and chances they're going to need someone
to cover the like you probably have to disco as well,
so Teddy and Pommer. Yeah, captain c Now. All seasons
I've been saying, look, if you've got clear and he's going,
captain him, but you may need to try and win
your league. Well, this is the thing. Week he's playing
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like the third game of the round, maybe Friday night
or something, So chuck a v on him and just
sit a reminder or something to double check and make
sure you do the loop properly because he's playing so
early and everyone's going to captain Cleary, right, I don't know.
Here's my other shot that I'm prepared to fire, right,
I think you, I think you might agree with me.
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Pong is playing the Tigers. Oh yeah, he's my captain
and Clari's my vice captain. Yeah. I think that's probably
the way I'm going to do it, and I will
fuck up the VC loop. What okay, what does clearly
have to score for you to not captain Ponger? Because
I saw I had this last week. I like to
think over one hundred and twenty, I'd be like, oh, yeah, okay,
(31:47):
I had this exact problem last week with vale Home
scored one hundred and thirty six and he was my
vice kept That was on Thursday night game. Yeah, and
you stuck with Cleary though who got ninety? Who got ninety?
But then whoever you brought in, if you'd done the
VC loop probably would have scored. Your lowest scoring player
would have got hardly anything. So it comes kind of
comes out in the wash. I think about one thirty
is sort of the Yeah, if it's over one thirty,
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you should do it. So you vice captain Cleary and
if he goes for one of those like one fifty
one eighty games, that's right. Yeah, Okay, that's the way.
That's the way I think everyone should play it. And
if you don't have either of those dudes, you probably
not listen to this podcast. And also if you don't
know how to do it, just bring one of your
roosters and it's on the by, yeah, after Cleary's game,
and captain him, and then your lowest scoring person on
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the bench who isn't reserved, their points will count instead
of the guy on the by, which last week for
me would have been I think for me it was
David Moaly for the rabbit Os. He's scored forty three
or something. Oh, none of my other dudes scored. Sweet,
so you've got a free VC loop potentially, yeah, because
your lowest scoring would have been the guy that you
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took out, oh which would have stayed, which would have
been Dom Young just thirty. So yeah, yeah, so it
is anyway. Yeah, so that's how I'm going to play it.
I think Vice Captain Cleary kept in punger or if
you're feeling a bit nervous, just kept in clear and
don't worry about it. The issue you've got with VC
loops is that your VC is always on a Saturday night. Yep,
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And like traditionally looking back at the calendar Saturday nights,
and I fit into this mold as well. You're usually
quite steamed, and so you're in a position where you
all of a sudden have to do some advanced mathematics
and do a VC loop hungover, all hung over the
next day, you can't even be bothered looking at the
app until the game started, and then you realize, Yeah,
so it's a real dangerous thing to play with. That
genuinely had it where I've been out for dinner and
(33:32):
I'm like, oh fuck, I don't I didn't VC loop.
Actually you and I was somewhere it might have even
been in Bali. We're in Balley on a boat, almost dying,
and I was like, oh fuck. And you go, you
forgot to do the VCS because you're on your phone
looking at something. You went, oh fuck, I did. Yeah, yeah,
I did the same thing. Yeah. That's why it's so risky.
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It's not because it's hard to do. You just forget.
It's because it's hard to hear you get a factor
in real life anyway. Okay, that's how we're going to
play it this week. Good luck to all of you
who are competing in the Supercoach. This weekend, we are
going to take one last break and when we come back,
we're going to put our hunch together. Well, welcome back
into the podcast. I'm just scrolling back through the the
(34:14):
bet slip on the tab account because I think that
we were you put together one of the all time hunches,
one of the all time five parts last week. I
loved it and it's something I think we need to
do more of. Last week, Chris's hunch was every player
who had been linked to leaving their club at the
end of the season to score in the game. So
(34:37):
it was Blade the Lungy, Dylan Walker, and Jessavanger. Now
two of those players will come off the bench or
at least play reduced minutes. Yeah, and Dylan Walker got
injured pretty early doors. Yeah, and Jesseevunger did not score.
Blaster Lungion did he scored? Yeah. I was a big
fan of that. Fifteen thousand dollars. So if that had
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come in with one hundred dollars bonus bet, that would
have been all time. But it didn't happen. It didn't
even look like happening. No, is there anything Jeez is
sewn Johnson The Vibe this week, Seawan Johnson retiring. I
think Sean Johnson two or more tries, Shawn Johnson two
or more. I love it to score two or more tries.
(35:18):
But I've just pulled that out of my ass right now.
I want you to know. Everyone pulls all of their
beds right out of their ass. Sewan Johnson, they have
two or more tries at fourteen dollars. Yeah, he'll be
brimming Fuck it, we're on. He'll be AJ Brimson, He'll
be AJ Brimming's son. And I am gonna place this
bit before we even walk out of the studio. That's
going on right now. That is our heart, Sewan Johnson.
(35:40):
To score two or more tries that is fourteen dollars
if you want them at any time, that will knit
you three dollars forty five, which I don't mind either.
I see it when I close my eyes, I can
see it. I can see him right foot step dotting
down under the post and like doing the big arm,
the Tiger Woods arms and all of the boys jumping
all over him as the Warriors go down forty two
(36:01):
to sixteen against the Dolphins. I'm just joking. I can't
see it happening. I can picture it now. It has
to happen twice. So that's our thank you very much
for joining us for the Mad Monday podcast. Myself and
CAZy the Cursed commentary crew will be on four pm
to watch Shawn Johnson score those two tries against the
(36:21):
Dolphins on Sunday. Yeah, Sunday game on Sunday. We'll see
you there. By Australia without rugby league. He's not Australia, right,
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