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Speaker 3 (01:07):
Good afternoon, You welcome into Tuesday seven past one. Well,
the half yearly Economic and Fiscal update has just been released.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, and the Treasury has confirmed the government's expected surplus
has been pushed out from twenty twenty seven to twenty
thirty at the earliest as New Zealand's economic conditions deteriorate.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
We knew it was going to be bad, but that
is bad, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Twenty thirty?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, jeez. So we're going to dig into more of
that half yearly economic update with Jason Wolves very shortly,
but it's a quick preview on the rest of the show.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah. After three, our Great New Zealanders of Christmas series
continues with Nadia Limb. She's going to join us from
the farm down in Central Otago. Looking forward to that.
Or so, we're giving away a couple of copies of
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of that's great book.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And after two o'clock or maybe even a little bit earlier,
we want to talk about what's a name when it
comes to a business. This is on the Bank of
s bq R. It was taken over by sisters Bronwin
and Jessica Payne, and they've now got a new name
for that business, Jacuzzi.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
If you're not from Auckland, s PQR might not mean
a lot to you. It was, i would say, considered
a kind of pretentious Alfrisco dining outfit on Ponsonby Road.
A great food, but there was a lot of who's
who of Auckland sitting on the street dining there. Certainly
was so for a number of years. So s PQR
is now called Jacuzzi. I don't like the name.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's a bold, moved name.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't like it, but I don't have any skin
in the game, but I don't like it. It sounds
like you're going to be sitting in a spar pool.
So we want to talk about naming your companies. How
hard is it to pick the business name for your company?
Have you got it wrong? Have you had to change
the name of your business? And what is a brilliant
name you have come up for your business? If you
had As I was saying before, I have a three
(03:05):
D motion graphics company and it was called effective aff
And we used to say if it's not an effective effect.
If you see an effect and it's not an effective effect,
it's not an effective effects effect.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, clever, clever.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, but by having a comedy kind of name for
your company, you kind of rule out some of your business. Yeah,
So we eventually changed it. Now it's called Vinewood Motion Graphics,
just because it sounds a little bit the same company,
nearly all the same employees, but it has a more
sort of upper echelon sound to it.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And Dad when he was creating his electrical company, and
he spent six months trying to think, you know, he's
thinking about puns in clever ways that he could name
this this company to stand out from the competition. But
wide he landed with I'll tell you a little bit
later on plain and simple and did the job. I wait,
one hundred eighty ten eighty open up those phone lines
very shortly. But after we play some messages, we're going
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to catch up with Jason Wilves to dig into this
half yearly economic and fiscal update. And it looks like
there's a bit of bad news, so stand by. It
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Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yes, so just release the half yearly economic and fiscal update.
Our political editor, Jason Wolves has been in the lockup.
Get a, Jason, get a.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
They've released me from the lock up and here I be.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Better than the locker. No, much worse than a locker.
Think about my days back in England. So, Jason, how
bad is our nation's fiscal situation?
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Look, you know Nikola Willis and the Finance and the
Prime Minister. Rather, we're holding true to their downbeag beat
forecast of what the economy was going to be looking
like when Treasury opened its books. It is, it is
grim reading and that was forecast. But I don't think
we fall cast anything like this. I mean, the main
headline figure here is the expected surplus. That is how
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much extra money the government has after it's got its
taxes and it's paid for all of the things such
as healthcare, superannuation and or everything that a government does.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Right.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
That was supposed to come into effect in twenty twenty seven,
That's when the surplus was supposed to be happening. That's
now being pushed out to beyond twenty thirty. Now, the
budget cycles only go in these sort of one, two, three, four, five, six,
sort of six yearly or really five yearly forecasts. When
you're looking forward, I mean, we can see the twenty
twenty five FORCAS here, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight,
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twenty nine. It goes out to twenty twenty nine on
the obigal, which is essentially the measure of the surplus,
surplus or the deficit, and it's at a deficit at
the twenty twenty nine financial year. We can't see beyond that,
so we technically don't know if it's going to be worse.
So we can say at least twenty thirty is when
the government is going to be sniffing a surplus. But
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there is a big butt here. You know that word
that I just mentioned, Obergel. I won't give you the
technical definition of this outside that is all you need
to know. It's a surplus or a deficit. The government has,
as I signaled, about forty five minutes ago or an
hour ago, changed the way that it measures this, so
it's taking out ACC's liabilities essentially ACC's deficit. At the
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moment ACC has a four point one billion dollar deficit. Now,
what the government has done is they've essentially isolated that.
They've ring fenced this deficit so it doesn't sit alongside
the government surplus or deficit, which means that it's come
up with a completely new measure that is four point
one billion dollars better off. So by this new measure,
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and get this, this is what they're calling it. They're
calling it. So the measure we have right now is
called Obergel. What they're calling it is Obergel X, like
it's the new iPhone.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
They've just last they've slapped.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
An X on the end of it, and everything's gonna
be hunky dory. But by the twenty twenty nine financial
year they're anticipating a one point nine billion dollar surplus
by the OLBI girl X measure. So in terms of
the fiscals, you know, things are looking bad. Things are
looking worse than the government expected. But hey, they've done
a little bit of swanky pr here.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I would say, yeah, sounds like it. So obviously the
opposition are going to push back on that. What about
economist Jason, do you think they'll look at that new
way of calculating the operating balance and say, hang on
a minute, that's a bit of trickery.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
To be honest, the economists might even agree with something
like this. I mean, if you look at actually what
ACC is. The argument that Nikola Willis was making in
there is that ACC is as an institution, it's set
up to handle large deficits and then large as large surpluses.
So if it's a bit down one year and a
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bit up the other year, this fluctuation shouldn't be included
in the surplus or the deficit measure because it's not
something that politicians or lawmakers need to be across when
it comes to making various different policies. For example, I mean,
ACC sort of has its liabilities to some degree ring
fenced than there, so it doesn't really mean that this
is Nikola Willis's argument that it should be part of
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the government's surplus or deficit and measure. But you know
the opposition are going to stand at the rooftops and
they're going to cry, you've shifted the goal posts. You've
shifted the goalposts, You've done something that makes your books
look better than they are by some creative accounting. Doesn't
matter if it's technically correct, or if it is actually
a more prudent way of measuring the ober gel in
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the first place, it just looks a little bit naff
from the government, will be the opposition's argument.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And what does this worsen expect result mean for every
day in New Zealanders over the next few years.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Well, it's the million dollar question, isn't it. But at
the end of the day, I mean we did have
the Treasury in front of the Select the Finance and
Expenditure Select Committee a few weeks ago, and one of
their top brass was saying, essentially, when you boil it
down to it, when you push out a surplus, that
essentially means that the Reserve Bank has to make further
different decisions based on its official cash rate, and it
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might not be able to loosen that, ie, bring it
down as quick as it might have liked in the past.
And as we know, the ocr is directly correlated to
people's mortgage rates, so you can take about five steps
from the government surplus to your own mortgage and technically
there is some link there. In fact, it is probably
quite a strong link, but we'll have to be quite
down the track to realize that. The other thing Nikola
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Willis was at pains to point out today during the
lockup was just how much worse things were than she
expected in the budget. We talked earlier today about how
we're expecting to see the New Zealand economy go back
into a technical recession when we see those GDP numbers
later this week, and that was top of her mind
when she was talking about the New Zealand economy today.
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I mean she was talking about there are some good
news here. I mean anybody that is invested in housing,
or somebody there's got a house that they are running
a loss on. I mean the house prices are expected
to fall zero point one percentage points next year, then
going up to five point three, then five point eight
and then five point one by twenty twenty eight. Some
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good news on the housing market. And there's some other
good news and employment. They're expecting unemployment to peek at
five point four percent in June next year, in inflation
to four below that two percent mark at some point
next year because of lower oil prices.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Also note that Nichola Willis ruled out selling state owned
assets in this term of government. Was that a surprise
that she put that line in the stand today not
really a surprise.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I mean, it was a good line of questioning from
one of the reporters in there, but it's just not nationals,
you know, for lack of a better term vibe. I mean,
if she would have come out and say this is
what we're doing in terms of looking to sell the
silverware to pay for the mortgage, then I think it
would have raised a few eyebrows. But what she did
is she was at a is she was at pains
to point out the operating the operating allowance, which is
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essentially how much an extra new money the government has
to play with every single budget will remain at very
low levels traditionally a lot lower than the Grant Robertson
era of fiscal prudency. I would say, but a lot
of listeners are we push back on that of Grant
Robertson's time in the Treasury Office in the Treasury benches.
(11:14):
But she's essentially saying that when we look at that number,
it doesn't take into account the massive amounts of savings
the government will have to do when it's putting together
the budget. She's really really really playing down any expectations
of anything new and shiny when it comes to the
budget next year, essentially saying you will only be able
to get new budget initiatives for your departments if it's
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an emergency. Anything else, don't count on it. Nikola Willis
is not having any of it.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I know the answer to this question, Jason, But as
the previous government taking any responsibility for their contribution to
the nation's fiscal problems, or are they just putting the
boat in for political gain.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Listen, we're going to hear from the opposition in about
twenty minutes before they go into the house. But I
would imagine that's exactly what they're going to do. I
mean they will, we will ask them. We'll hang on
a second. Nikola Willis has been very candid here about
your participation in what the books like look like.
Speaker 8 (12:06):
Now.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I mean, the thing is, and I will say this
in the previous government's defense, and it's something like that.
This government seems to have abnesia over is COVID nineteen.
They never seem to mention it. It's just like everything
is really bad and they don't go into the detail.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Why.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yes, the previous government did make a lot of alarming
spending decisions. Yes, things absolutely got out of control on
a lot of levels. But we can't forget the sheer
economic hit that COVID had on not just the New
Zealand economy but the government books as well, and that's
going to take a long time to fix. And I
don't think it's all necessarily the last government's problem. I
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do think that they for sure deserve a lot of
blame and scrutiny for the way that they handled it.
But let's remember that it was a pretty big, unprecedented
economic event.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeahs, Sir Nichola Willis previously signaled she was looking at
requiring charities that are really businesses to pay more tax.
Was more said about there when she hopes to bring
that legislation in how much they can expect to get
from that, Well, she was.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Hinting that that was coming on budget day. I mean
she's talked about this charities tax for some time now.
And another number that was quite baffling to somebody that
isn't a millionaire like myself, is that New Zealand between
the budget and between today's update, there has been thirteen
billion dollars less of tax revenue over that time. So
that's less money that the finance minister has to play
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with or to fund new initiatives, and what she was
talking about was a number of new initiatives, whether they
be on the quote revenue gathering side of things. Now,
revenue gathering is just an economic way of saying tax increases.
She was very clear it wasn't anything along the lines
of a capital gains tax, and it certainly wouldn't be
an increase in income tax or anything to that degree,
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given the fact that the government has just pulled that down.
But she said she'd be looking at a charity's tax.
She's talked about value capture. When you have a new
highway built in the house, prices around the new highway
subsequently go up. She's talked about that, and she was
very candid about a foreign buyers tax. Now this has
been ruled out by one Winston Raymond Peters in the
coalition goociations, but she said, you know, if Winston's willing
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to change his mind this government or with her nash,
she was very specific to take off her finance minister
hat have put on her National Party spokesperson hat. She
was very specific in saying if Winston wanted to reverse
the way that he was looking at that, she would
be very open to looking into a foreign bayers tax.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Very interesting, Jason, well done. We will certainly chat about
this more over the next couple of days. But thank
you very much.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Thanks back. I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
That is news Talks. He'd be political editor Jason Will's
right after the ad break, we're going to catch up
with Brad Olsen, Infometric's chief executive, to break this down
from an economic point of view. It is twenty three
past one.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic asking
breakfast with us?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Is the Prime Minister Chris luxon the phone in school's band.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
I was very passionate about I'd seen it in other
parts of the world. We'd seen the advice actually from
schools already had it and we got that through, which
is great, and we got it done fast.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Why did you care so much about it?
Speaker 9 (15:07):
Basically, Sybul's teachers, parents, kids filed out of control about it.
The reality was at a massive distraction in the classroom.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
We've got serious.
Speaker 9 (15:14):
Issues around literacy and numeracies. We've talked before in small attendance.
Those are the three things we've got to focus on,
and it's been cool because actually, yes, we took a
bit of grief from the media in the beginning and
the opposition, but the point is the principles of saying rugbyople.
We are going through windows again, kids are actually talking
to each other, cyber bullying is down, and kids are
less distracted. So all that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Hither Duplessyen on the mic asking breakfast back tomorrow at
six am with Bailey's Real Estate on Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Twenty six past one. We're talking about the half yearly
economic and fiscal update to get an economics point of
view on it. We're joined by Brad Olsen Infometrics, chief
executive and friend of the show, Get a bred, good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Any big surprises for you in today's announcement in.
Speaker 10 (15:57):
A sense, not really.
Speaker 11 (15:58):
I mean, most of the economic indicators were going to
be better, but they're not going to be quite as
good as we expected when they were forecast at the budget.
With the big surprise with a new fiscal indicator the
old obigal X, which a talking to a collague before
we think sounds like either a new edition of the
iPhone or maybe a new Pokemon game. But apart from that,
(16:19):
I mean, I think the big challenge though for the
government we knew it was coming, we probably didn't have
as good of a handle.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
On how bad it was.
Speaker 11 (16:25):
It was just how much less money the government is
going to bring in despite the economy recovering. I mean,
over the forecast period over the four years to mid
twenty twenty eight, the government's now expecting to bring in
thirteen billion dollars less in tax but also still spend
nearly six billion dollars more on government services and similar
That's a big gap that you have to borrow in
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the middle to pay for and that does make the
government accounts look a whole.
Speaker 12 (16:50):
Lot worse than it might have been.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Expecting any nervousness from you for next year, brad Olsen,
it was long indicated survived till twenty twenty five, but
that looks like it might be pushed out a bit
further than that now.
Speaker 11 (17:02):
Well, I think the big challenge in the Treasury did
highlight this as well. It was survived till twenty five.
No one said it was survived till the first of
January twenty twenty five, and then everything picks up immediately.
It is going to be a bit of a slower burn,
and even Treasury is highlighted that yes, there are better
things to come, but no they won't be quite as
upbeat or as fast to recover as might have all expected.
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Productivity hasn't been growing, In fact, it's sort of been
reversing back in some areas, and the expectations are for
pretty subdued still growth next year.
Speaker 12 (17:31):
It's growth.
Speaker 11 (17:32):
The Treasury now expects twenty twenty five GP to be
up zero point five percent. That's again the turnaround front
of the zero point two percent four or contraction we've
seen twenty and this year, but then a bit of
a strong attack up in the year after twenty twenty
sixth they think is when the economy really gets going.
So maybe it's survived twenty five that thrive and twenty
(17:52):
six three point three percent growth though, guys, I mean
that is that is pretty substantial. The challenge, of course
for the government is that you know, it won't be
able to contribute a lot to that, and even with
strong growth doesn't get a lot of money. So you know,
i'd be if I'm them, I'm looking at the numbers
and going better for the economy, but is not reflected
in my books, and that means that I'm still going
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to be spending a lot to service provide those services
out to kiwis, but I'm not getting nearly as much
as I want, and that's a problem for them.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So survive to twenty five, then get your cacks in
twenty six. Maybe that works.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
That's a better one.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Now, in your opinion, how much is this the world
economy's fault with things that we can't control. How much
is it this current government's fault, and how much is
it the previous government's fault.
Speaker 11 (18:36):
I only look, everyone likes to clout politics with it,
and and sure there's elements there. I mean, certainly you
look at the level of government spending and where it
will be into the future is still sort of unstainably
higher than what it's been in the past. It was
understandable during the pandemic and even to point during the
high inflation period, but coming out the other side when
we try and find where the new sort of economic
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normal is, having that much spending really does suggest that
we are still not sort of cutting out our coth properly.
You're right as well, the global conditions aren't fantastic.
Speaker 12 (19:07):
I see, you know, with it.
Speaker 11 (19:07):
German that lost their government overnight, Canada is in a
bit of disarray. France has done the same thing recently.
Long story short, Treasury did say that they expected that
our trading partners will be growing, but still themselves not
as fast as everyone wants, and so won't be sort
of growing our exports as quickly as might have liked.
It does I think just set the tone for a
more difficult couple of years. And the challenge for the
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government is that they've got these conditions in front of them,
some of which they can't do a whole lot about,
which means I've got a very narrow number of choices.
Speaker 12 (19:39):
To make that have some pretty big implications.
Speaker 11 (19:42):
It is going to be a very difficult period, I
think for the government to figure out what it spends on,
what it tries to save on, and what it actually
wants to do. Because it doesn't have a lot of
options it can spend a lot more. That's got to
make a lot of other cuts in other areas to
offset that. It's a narrow playing field that they've got
in front of them.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Brad, thank you very much for the expertise. As always,
thank you catch up soon. That is brand Olson Infometrics
Chief executive and economist. Headlines coming up is bang on
one thirty.
Speaker 13 (20:14):
Use talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's
no trouble with a blue bubble. Treasury has confirmed the
expected government surplus has been pushed out from twenty twenty
seven to twenty thirty at the earliest as economic conditions
to terior rate, but the government's change the official measure
of surplus to no longer consider the four point one
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billion dollar acc deficit and upgraded its name from obigal
to obigal x that metric would put the books in
the black in mid twenty twenty nine. The PSA says
patients will die if the government pushes ahead on axing
more than one thousand healthcare it rolls christ churches or
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We'll premium Back to Matteathan Tyler Adams.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Very thank you, very much, railing tun you, Mike On
Tyler Wright. We're going to change tech over the next
week while we want to talk about business names on
the back of a very popular restaurant in Auckland changing
its name.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's right, Tyler spq R. If you're from Auckland, you'll
know who that is. They're on Pons Toby Road. They've
got new management and they've changed their name too. Are
you ready for it? Jacuzzie, they ask key resort. I
don't know how they're running it. I don't know if
there's going to be a lot of sparkles in there.
I'm not sure how the whole thing's going to work.
(22:00):
But it's called Jacuzzi. And my natural response to that is,
I don't think that's a great name for a restaurant.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So we want to talk about naming companies and naming
your business because a lot of people out there have
to do it. We're a nation that starts a lot
of little companies and a lot of the businesses, and
and if you've got a business. You need a name
for it. So how do you pick the business name?
And have you got it wrong before? And have you
had to change the name of your business because you've
got it wrong like I have on a couple of occasions.
And what is a brilliant name you have for you
(22:31):
for your business. I used to have a business called
Video Nasties and reproduced television shows and it was a
reference to a type of show. But there used to
be it was a song by the band The Damned
Video Nasty catch Catch the Horror Taxi. Anyway, but then
(22:51):
it just sounded like we're making adult movies. So really
we were making stunt based TV shows and movies and souff.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I'd be intrigued if I saw a business in Video nastis,
Oh what do these guys do? Yeah, just so you
change the name in the end.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, we changed the name we had to to anyway,
the name that we change it two wasn't there much better.
It was Back of the Way Limited. But anyway, that
that and I had another company that was called Effective
Effects and we had to change that because it just
sounded too amateur. So we changed it to Vinewood Motion Graphics.
But the thing is getting your business name rights as key.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I mentioned before Dad he's an electrician
or was. He's semi retired now and since sold the business.
But he was trying to think of the name when
he went and started up his business, and he thought
about all these electrical puns like souge electrical or shockingly good, sparky,
you know, all that sort of say yeah, it's not bad,
is it. But then after about six months of going
through this process and talking to marketing people and brand people,
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and then someone said to him, what about just the
electric company? So he just looked at that and thought, yeah,
this is it all the electric company. You know what
you're getting with the electric company.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But people of a certain age think that's a great
name because it was that TV show The Electric Company.
But otherwise, and that's a brilliant one because for certain people,
the electric company, it's a great it's kind of a
pun on a TV show. It also describes exactly what
it is.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, one percent, And that was in the of the
Yellow Pages where if you needed the electric company or
a electric company boom. He was right there. But oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty there's some great Texs coming through.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, have you have you got it wrong before with
your company name and had to change it? Or have
you got it right? And what is your brilliant company name?
Or if there's a brilliant company name out there, then
give us a l eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine
to two, nineteen ninety two. A Darcy Watergrave was just
telling me about a company called Transfer, which takes pets
between countries.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I like that. It's good for if you are very clever.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That's clever.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Now give us a buzz. It is twenty three to two.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Walk you're new home of Afternoon Talk and Taylor Adams
Afternoon Call. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Say'd be good afternoon? It is twenty to two.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Maybe we should talk to the people that have calling there.
They're changing them well bought SPQR and calling it JACUZZI.
We do wish them well, yeah, I do feel bad
for putting the boot in. You know they're starting, but
the least there there's that hospo. I support it, and
you know I wish them all the best. And how
much difference can the name of your company make?
Speaker 14 (25:19):
Really?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Like they if they serve great food and it's a
great time, and they have the fantastic Alfrisco dining situation.
Then Jacuzzie may absolutely go off and they may know
something I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Well, Bronwyn and Jessica Payne, if you're listening right now,
give us a buzz. You know we we wish you
all the best with Jacuzzi.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
We just want to know why you called your restaurant Jacuzzi.
It sounds like you're gonna be sitting in sparpalls. You
must have a reason.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty, there's plenty
of great teas coming through.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
My last name is Baker. I'm in a digital recruitment
into in digital recruitment and called my company the Digital Bakery.
A bit of a laugh. People remember at actual bakery
you can get a pie or a sandwich. At the
digital Bakery, you can get the likes of a software
developer or user experience designer. Cheers. I've just a little
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bonus for people that ring up on this subject and
text in, is that we're just gonna say the name
of their company.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, yeah, well, well not a bit of simp of
self promotion, but nothing wrong with it absolutely.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But also I'd like to hear people that had a
name for their company and realized it wasn't working and
changed it and why and with the change actually worked,
Because what's in a name? As they say, the Rose
by any other what's the Shakespeare line, which still.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Rose by any other name will still be a rose
something like that. Yeah, I've completely butchered Shakespeare.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
S PQR or any other name will still be Jacuzzi.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Craig, how are you this afternoon?
Speaker 15 (26:52):
The good top of people are really clear. In London
years ago there was a furniture store and are called
Sofa Keen. Yeah, okay, it's a king and their slogan
was our sweets are sofar king. It's comfortable.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That's clever.
Speaker 12 (27:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (27:13):
It was really well done. And there was a good
good store and they still I don't know this was
this was.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
The eighte Yeah, did you buy a sofa from them?
Speaker 16 (27:24):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
No, no, that's very clever though. Yeah, good on your Craig,
thank you. Our sofas are so be careful twilight, Yeah no,
don't go down the tracks time, Richard? How are you?
Speaker 14 (27:38):
I'm radiance today?
Speaker 8 (27:39):
How are you going?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Radiance?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Like that?
Speaker 14 (27:44):
So business name is a subject very close to my heart.
I'll give you a couple of three because I've been
in various businesses over my life, but currently my business
is it is called manage my property.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Manage my property.
Speaker 14 (27:59):
And I have had people go so what do you do?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (28:04):
Read the car. I also used to have a business
in this country called More Balls than Most, and we
supplied juggling equipment and kites and stuff like that. It
was moderately successful and still moderately well known.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
More more Balls than Most that's the one. Yep, yep, yep. Okay,
that's that sort of describes it.
Speaker 14 (28:28):
It does describe it. Yeah, it did. And I had
a vending machine business and we called it stuff You.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
That's good. Yeah.
Speaker 14 (28:38):
Answering the phone. Answering the phone was tricky because you
used to see good morning, stuff you.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
So have you ever had a company that you've called something, say,
for example, stuff You, and thought, hang on it, this
isn't working and my business isn't going. Well, maybe it's
the name and changed it.
Speaker 14 (28:53):
Oh, I wish I could think of an example. I've
seen a few company names and you just look at
it and you go, what were they thinking? And I
think Jacuzzi might be sliding into that arena a little bit,
but yeah, I think you have to put a lot
of thought into your your name to make it see
what you do. A lot of companies don't actually say
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what they do. They say they're good all pursuing excellence.
But yeah, that's pretty unimaginative.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So yeah, wells was manage my company? Is one of
your companies? Is that right?
Speaker 14 (29:27):
Manage my manage my property?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah? Sorry, sorry, manage my property, so you can. I
guess there can only be one manage my property though.
But that describes exactly what you're doing. I kind of
think of that with movies. I think of that with movies.
Sometimes there's a movie and it doesn't describe what it is.
I blame that for its failure late. I think Kung
Fu Panda is a very good name for the movie.
Kung Fu Panda.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You know what you're going to get describes, describes exactly
what it is.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
It does.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Richard, thank you, thank you very much. There's a business
down in price he did seem radiant. He did, he
did very radiant. A business down in Christchurch and it's
called Pooh Man Rain Layers. And I've just always loved
that name when I first saw it, and I'm giving
you a shout out, pooh Man, if you're listening. But
when I saw that driving our great round Christis, I thought, yeah,
that's a great name.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I think it's great disgusting.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I will ring pooh man if my drains need need unclogging.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, but sometimes your drains aren't for that. There's all
different types of drains. I don't want to yuck.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Well, pooh Man, if you're listening, give us a buzz
as well. Defend your name.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, I'm the guy that made the TV show poo Man.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
And we so I can talk James, how are you?
Speaker 12 (30:29):
How are we doing?
Speaker 17 (30:30):
God?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You got some business names for us?
Speaker 12 (30:33):
Well, my partner and I were setting up a new
company and we knew the business name, but we didn't
know what company we were going to use. And so
my parents used to have a batch on the West
Coast and they affectionately called it Camp David, named after
the presidential retreat. So we we went with Camp David Limited.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And what did Camp David Limited do?
Speaker 12 (30:57):
So we've got the four square over a beautiful diamond harbor.
But every time we fell out an account form, people
would say, are you any relation to that camp David,
the religious cult from North Canterbury from the back from
the eighties, So a lesson there, just yeah, use your
brain and some research.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Google search, do it for Google. How much is how
much is a bachelor's handbag? Are you selling baches bachelor's
handbags at your four square?
Speaker 12 (31:26):
I think they are about sixteen bucks and they just
keep going, just keep going.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Bachelor's hand the pre cooked checking it's the best food,
the food of summer and coultsla and rolls, Yeah, Bachelor's
Hamburg Coultre and rolls.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, that's that's that's that's the go to. Yeah. And
how's Diamond Harbor looking over summer? Is it going to
be Choco block love Diamond Harbor?
Speaker 12 (31:46):
It's beautiful every day? Yeah, every day.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, you're a lucky man.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
We'll nip into the full square for a bachelor's handbag.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Put aside for us James ers mates, we'll get Steven
before we've got to take a break into Steve Hi
you Yeah, very good.
Speaker 18 (32:05):
Battles of Steve from random coromp stations and Pullman's ballroom
doorways from above and until so back.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
How are you mate?
Speaker 19 (32:15):
Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 18 (32:17):
When I started my video production company in nineteen ninety seven,
I came up with a completely nerdy name called Electronic
Media Communications Company, which I shortened to EMC squared, thinking.
Speaker 19 (32:27):
I was quite clever.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, that is quite clever.
Speaker 18 (32:30):
It is quite clever, until I got a letter from
the big American corporation called EMC squared, right, asking me
not to use that name because our businesses were apparently
similar because I used hard drives and editing right manufactured
hard drives.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So you trademark eindsigns, you know, very famous mathematical equation.
That seems a bit dirty.
Speaker 18 (32:52):
Well, yeah, that's probably a question for trademark lawyers. Then
I wasn't prepared to go there, so I just changed it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah yeah, Well, and that's that's a bit of a
that's a bit of a stretch because you're not manufacturing
hard drives. You're just saving some of your videos footage
onto hard drives. You're using them exactly. But to argue, no,
and what did you change the name of e MC squared.
Two Steve films synergy Synergy for last Yeah, synergy.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 18 (33:23):
It's all about teamwork with clients.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that's a nice name actually, but yeah,
you gotta you gotta yeah, I mean EMC squad is
a good, good one as well. But I think you're
actually doing better with Synergy Films. It actually sort of
describes what you're doing a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Yes, So thanks. Then I promised I would fall.
Speaker 18 (33:40):
In at some point, So.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Thank you for that. You're a man of your words, Steve,
And it was not. It was lovely to meet.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
You you too, mate, Thank you, Steve, one hundred eighty
ten eighty. Love to hear your business name. And if
you have had to change your business name, why there
will be a lot of people out there that thought
they were being they had the perfect brand name and
then turned out maybe they've got a little bit joking.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well, I've I named a business and new business last
year and I'll share the name of it after in
just a few minutes. All right, it's gonna be well
worth it.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
This is gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Maybe you can guess what it is. On nineteen nineteens.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
It is eleven minutes to two back in the mom.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Mad Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight and
Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks'd be good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
It is eight to two.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And my exciting tease was I incorporated a company just
about a year ago. And the exciting name I gave it. Yeah,
you'll hear it.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, it's just gonna well, it's going to be good, good,
it's going to do.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
This is huge, this is clever, it's going to be good.
Describes what it is.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, all right, okay, here we.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Go mad Heath Limited. I thought, how did you come
up with that? It's my company, it's my name, mad
Heath Limited.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
You know what you're getting. You know what you're getting,
old man.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Actually I'm undernard over that for quite some time.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Now, you this afternoon.
Speaker 20 (35:07):
I I hate good good. Hey, Charlie, you won't remember
the name of this company that came up in the
New a few years going christ Hit and it was
a lady head of business about sunglasses and it was
called happy to Sit on your Face.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Actually, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'm going to risk gurgling that on the work gurgle
and see if they're still going here we go great. Yeah, yeah,
it's got some great sunglasses here.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 20 (35:39):
People complained about it. They didn't like it. They thought
it was too you know. Yeah, but she she she
put it on and she won and they know she
didn't get stopped for using it, so it was business.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
These are some cool sunnies right here.
Speaker 20 (35:57):
Yeah, yeah here. But she's still going, yeah, happy to
sit on your phone.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
The discernment olive sunglasses of very stylist. So she's got a.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Look at the risk paid off obviously Liberty Noir.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I'd read the Liberty Noir, you know, and I'm going
to order.
Speaker 21 (36:17):
A pair of that.
Speaker 20 (36:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
But she got here from memory jam was she set
up in a wi She had a kind of a
weak kiosk at maybe the art gallery or something. And
that's what people were a bit upset about because she
was out in public that they thought that's a bit much.
Speaker 18 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 20 (36:32):
Yeah, And she was really out there, like with her
advertising and everything, and that's sort of that's when it
blew out to the public. I actually knew her. I
think she came from Sumner but and she's quite a
riskue for the lady she's I mean, she suits her
business name right, and but yeah, she thought to keep
her and she kept it.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, it's a long business name, it's a six D name.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
And I thought ted and I thought, oh, when I
hear you talking about it, and I thought, hopefully no
one had mentioned it, but anyway they would have bring
me to start with. But I thought that was quite
with me.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Jan thank you for your call. And look classy name
and classy specs as well. I'm just looking through here.
I'll tell you what the Yeah, dolls have eyes glasses.
I'd we a Liberty Cognac.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Glasses. Yeah, yes, But what do you say when you
buy a set of those glasses and say where'd you
get your glasses from? And you say happy to sign
your face?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah? And when they say where did they say? Yeah, sure,
where did you get your glasses from?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah? Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty. We're going to
carry this on after two o'clock. A couple of texts
in the meantime, ghetto guys, we are called your Daily Grind.
We are drive through a coffee trailer in Auckland. People
love the name. That's a great name. And this one
get a guy's successful building company in the UK called
Bodge and Scraper from Mary. Yeah, I love that. Oh
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eight hundred eighty ten eight.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Bodget and Scarper.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Okay, that's even better.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Budget and scar I don't think i'd get a company
called Budget and Scarper to deal with.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
What about this one? I call my company upset as
I sow home decor Vibe trade me. But I'm not
GST registered. Upsy Daisy. Okay, that's say confession time.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
And you're good to know you're not GST register.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll keep you anonymous. Okay, right, we're
gonna pick this back cup. Quick update on the cricket.
I just think they've got another wicket mare. I think yeah,
it was there.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
They just bowled Pope and he attempted a humiliating ramp
shot and then met Henry took out his off stump.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You beauty two hundred and fifteen for six New Sport
and Weather on its way. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.
Speaker 22 (38:43):
Very very good afternoon to you.
Speaker 23 (39:02):
To close, we can love of things that we know.
We can go forever till you at sit it.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Out talking with you all afternoon.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons you for twenty
twenty four News Talk.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
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Speaker 2 (39:35):
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We had dieing with yesterday and today we have Nadia Lynn.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, fantastic New Zealander Nadia. Looking forward to that and
a reminder. We're also giving away two copies of a
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Love the Life You've Got by one Matt Heath, which
is a great Christmas gift.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Is that the number one best selling book?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Oh yeah, that's what it sees here right at the
top of the box. Looking forward to giving that away.
It's good before we wrap up. It is good before
we wrap up at four o'clock. But right now we
have been chatting about a name change for SPQR and
Ponts and b oh.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Another wicket went down, so it's eight down. So I
mean they're just going to give up now, the English,
aren't they Sorry to interrupt you there, Tyler, that's all right.
So they've got Ben Stokes and Baser to come out now,
and why would England continue betting? Like Ben Stokes he's
slightly and jed he's not going to care. They just
want to get to the wine. They want to go
and play golf. They can't win the series. It's into
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twenty twenty four, so that game, that that cricket match
is going to be over in Hamilton very very soon. Anyway,
sorry to interrupt you, Tyler goodbeite, Buddy good Buddy, go go, go,
go go.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
We are chatting about brand names or company names. This
is on the back of course of s p q
R and pons and Be, a very well known restaurant
and bar in Auckland. It was purchased by new owners,
sisters Bromwin and Jessica Pain and they have now changed
the name too. Do we want a drum roll for this?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Juckuzair as in the sapa pou so the jacuzzi. The
sparpa was invented by the Jacuzi brothers, wasn't it, And
then that was why it was called a jacuzzi. Is
that right? I think that's why. I think that's why
sparpas are sometimes called jiacozzis. But that doesn't seem like
a great name. But I feel bad saying this because
I you know, HOSPO is the best of us. They
build things, they employ people. We've got to support our
(41:28):
HOSPO in this country. We've got to get out spend
time with people. But and I wish them all the best. Yes, Jacuzzi.
But when I heard that the name of this famous
Auckland establishment s PQR was now going to be Jacuzzi,
I thought, bad name.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, it's a bold move unless you've got Jacuzzis inside
and you've just moved.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Up from Canterbury of course, Tyler. And are you thinking
when like Alfrisco dining and summer dining at a place
called Jacuzzi, it seems warm?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, maybe it is very warm up here. I mean
maybe I was in the French Alps and it was
a nice ski shell as Chaguzi sounds very nice. But
we've had some great tics come through on serious business names.
This one, guys, my little landscaping business in oh Man.
There's a whole bunch that just came through, and Tartanaki
is called my Escape Solutions. However, fifty percent of my
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client's informing that they misread the name to Manscape Solutions,
which will be a very very different industry. Still trying
to figure out if this is a good thing or not. Cheers,
guys will love your show from Killian.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, I don't know. Manscape solutions that could be another company.
Why don't you do both?
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, just a wee side hustle.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, you do landscape and your manscape? Yeah, I mean,
is there a lot of there's a lot of business
for man there's anyone, I do know. There's a whole
different question. But does anyone out there go out and
get manscaped by a professional? I know that I know
that ladies go and get that kind of stuff done,
But are there any dudes out there that do that?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
You've never thought about it, You never looked at it
and thinking maybe like.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I am master of my own domain. But it's anyway,
have you It's hard to pick a business name, isn't it?
Speaker 12 (43:02):
It is?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
And it's important, and you have your company and you
started and you want it to work, and there's a
lot of pressure to get the name right. And if
the company's not going wrong, do you start thinking that
it's the name that there's a problem. Would like to
hear from people in our eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty if you've got the name wrong and had to
change it, or you've got it right and you're proud
and you think that the name of your company is
one of the reasons why it's succeeding. And if you've
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just got a brilliant name for your company, then I
guess we're willing to just give you a free plug.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Absolutely. Now is the time. It's Christmas, so on one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Glenn.
How are you this afternoon?
Speaker 19 (43:37):
How are you boys?
Speaker 8 (43:37):
All right?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Good?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
What's your business name?
Speaker 19 (43:41):
So twenty nearly twenty five years ago, I started up
a decorating business and the driving micropolis of Kapoki, and
it was Glenn Phillips Wallpapering. Just sort of yeah, morched along,
morched along. Theyre doing not really good at all, And
I was trying to figure out a way to boost
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things along a bit and jokingly come up with the
name well Hung Wallpaper.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Services, Well hung okay, yeah as a.
Speaker 19 (44:10):
Doke and talked to a few people about it and
they said, yeah, you should just run run with that,
and I did, called it Well Hung wall Paper Services,
and we're all over the side of the van, and
a few years later moved down to christ But since
changing the name of just ye transformed the company overnight.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
So so Glenn Phillips was going okay, but well hung
just went gangbusters. Yeah, yes, and you credit that you
didn't change anything else in the business. It just got
a dungeon.
Speaker 19 (44:38):
No, just that.
Speaker 12 (44:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 19 (44:40):
People, you sort of used advertising the papers and everywhere,
and it was just another head like everyone else. But
as soon as someone read that that's quite funny, we're
better get hold of them.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
And is it accurate personally?
Speaker 19 (44:51):
Oh, false advertising of course.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Now, Glenn Phillips wallpaping would sound like it was something
to do with the you know, the black cap.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Yeah, fine, cricketer.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah and so and well hung wall paping still going strong.
Speaker 19 (45:05):
Yeah, we're down here in christ just now and yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Had to can't teach out about it. They still like
the well hung yea yeah, yeah, yeah, good people.
Speaker 19 (45:13):
Down there, and yeah it goes well.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Well, good on you look him up if you need
some wallpaper hung by a well hung hallpaper.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeah, Glenn Phillips as well. Great name. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call, love to
hear from you. It is thirteen past.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Two, your new home of Afternoon Talk Taylor Adams Afternoon
Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
ZB News TALKSZB Well and Update on the cricket.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, it is all over. Ben Stokes is going to
bat New Zealand win by I believe four hundred and
twenty four runs. And that's all all she wrote for
Tim Saudi. One hundred and six text matches he's played.
He got three hundred and eighty nine wickets in his time.
Absolute great New Zealand servant of the game. And he's
currently walking off with the stump for a memorabiliya and
(46:09):
sad times because he's been in the in the game
for a very very long time. And actually heard his
dad talking the other day.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Have we got that audio.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
We had that audio of Tim Southie's dad talking about
Tim and he just said, I'm not sure what he's
going to do after the game. He just really loves
playing cricket.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Be a proud dad, a proud dad, the sexy camel.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
And I remember when I first sort of heard of
Tim Saudi when he was coming through as a young
lad and they had an interview with him and his
parents all the way back then, way way back then,
when he was starting. The guy's been in the team
his whole life, but half his life, and I were
talking to his dad and his mum, and she was
just saying all he did when they were growing up
is he'd have one stump in the backyard and he
(46:54):
would just bowl at it over and over and over
and over and over and over again. And you know
that's how he got so good.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
I look at him now.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
But hell of a career. And New Zealand prevent the
whitewash against England and there go. They're all off, probably
to have quite a few drink agin both things because
that's the end of the season for them.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
World done, boys, fantastic. Right back to the topic at hand.
We have been talking about your business names. On the
back of sbq R changing their name to Jacuzzi, which
is a bit of a bold move for some people,
but having plenty of great texts coming through about various
business names, this one. Gooday, guys, I just bloody lost it.
(47:35):
I'll get back to it when I there's so many
texts that'll just come through. I'll get back to that
very shortly. Let's go to Glenn. In the meantime, get
a Glenn.
Speaker 24 (47:42):
It's good afternoon, and gentlemen, how we all?
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Good? What's your company name?
Speaker 16 (47:46):
Well?
Speaker 24 (47:46):
I started a business over in the beautiful wayaky. I
live over here now, and I've got a major monopoly
company over here that I wanted to punch against, and
I wanted to bring standards, hardware and fixings to the
island and supply the builders directly, and so I called
it screw it Fastenings, screw.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
It fast fast names.
Speaker 13 (48:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
And have you been successful?
Speaker 24 (48:12):
Very successful, because generally what people do is when they
go to the other monopoly and they give them a
price to go screw it, I'll go to screw it.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
And the same question I asked Glenn Philip from where
Hope from well hung the Hall papers. Do you think
do you think that the name has been a big
part of your success?
Speaker 12 (48:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Definitely.
Speaker 24 (48:34):
And you know, you've got to have a point of difference.
I mean, there's another fantastic gentleman over here called the
Mad Butcher, of course, and I always took part of
what he did with that man Butcher, and I thought,
you know, that's that's the You've got to have something
that stands out as a name. I've got to written
on over my van and I get people yelling out
to me all the time, and it's a point of difference.
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You've got to get that punch and point of difference.
There is one little bad thing will not bad actually,
But one of the things that came from it was
it was actually my birthday very recently, and grandson got
up a little speech. He only was only eight at
the time, but he said, told everybody that I was
the best screw it man on the.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Island getting around.
Speaker 24 (49:21):
If it went wrong, I was going to call it
screw up.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Well, I guess if you called screw it, you've got
to get it right as well. So you know, get
people in with with the name they're interested, and then
good service and word of mouth, especially over there.
Speaker 24 (49:33):
Right, it's a beautiful community over here, and we want
to give them a very best service you can. And
you know, some of these big corporates come here and
or have been here and they just take everybody for granted.
And I wanted to. I want to give some excellent
service and provide provide something on the way. So that's
what I've done.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Good man, Good on you, Glenn, well done. Screw it
all right, Thank you mate, Cheers. Look them up, Tony.
Speaker 21 (49:57):
How are you Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 25 (49:59):
How are you doing?
Speaker 8 (50:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Good?
Speaker 8 (50:01):
Good?
Speaker 3 (50:02):
What's your company? Name.
Speaker 25 (50:04):
Yeah, look at our company names Benn Tour and we're
a little New Zealand company. We liked the little guy
that's that's fighting against the big mono, monopolistic international company
that we're from in the cargo and we manufacture quality
ventilation and atrustic lovers, their mechanical lovers, the big buildings, right,
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data centers and stuff. And we decided to call it Ventur,
which is Latin for air protect. But the funny thing
is is all the professionals that we deal with, architects
and mechanical and fire engineers, et cetera, many of them
often say, we always thought that you were from Germany,
so we didn't want to deal with you. We have
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to explain it upfront, and it is a good point
of difference. But sometimes you just got to do a
little bit of explaining.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Yeah, And so even when you found out that there
was a little bit of explaining to do, you didn't think,
I'm we're going to change the name of our company.
You're happy with it. You think it's working.
Speaker 15 (51:06):
Absolutely.
Speaker 25 (51:07):
I mean, you know, we have very very loyal professionals
out there in the marketplace who make very high quality
product and when they find out that all the profits
stay in New Zealand and we use New Zealand aluminium
and all those sorts of things. They suddenly that they
clicked to it, you know.
Speaker 15 (51:22):
But yeah, just.
Speaker 25 (51:23):
Because it's a it's a sort of foreign name. Yeah,
it's probably had some negative effect over the years, but
now it's turning it into a positive once once they understand.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Yeah, well, I mean, the Germans don't have the worst
reputation in terms of products, do they efficient, So you
know the fact that they thought it was German, they
might thought it was high level.
Speaker 25 (51:43):
Yeah, high kick and it is high level. But I
guess we're all trying to protect the loyalty of New
Zealand businesses, aren't we.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Yeah, house of the cargo today, Tony, I'm not.
Speaker 25 (51:53):
I'm actually from our Silverdale Unment office and down in
the the cargo. I understand it was nudging into pretty
high temperatures the other day. So the heat heat seems
to hit them first.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
Yeah, it certainly does.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
So what's the name of the company again, Tony.
Speaker 15 (52:08):
It's then two of the in t u n look
them up.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Great stuff, Tony, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Hey, Speaking of which Latin words and such, the other day,
I was just thinking, where does the word parachute come from?
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah, well i'll tell you in a bit.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
I feel that this is kind to be good.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Just yesterday actually, I was going, what parachute? Where does
the word parachute come from? I was watching that movie
Jason Bateman movie. Have you seen it called carry On?
Speaker 3 (52:32):
I haven't yet. That's on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, it's Christmas almost die hard to like movie about
the TSA in America. It's a good movie.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
But anyway, parachute, where does it come from?
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Coming next, It'll probably underwhelm you when you're here. Twenty
three Parts two.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons Call Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on yous talk ZEDB.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Twenty five past two. Now before the break, you mentioned
the origin of the word parachute.
Speaker 21 (53:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
I only mentioned this because it came up in a movie,
and I suddenly thought, you know, as you sometimes do,
you hear say the word parachute your whole life? You know,
where does the word parachute come from?
Speaker 3 (53:12):
I love doing those deep dives. There's just something that
gets in your brain and I wonder where they came from.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
And I've got to say when I found out, it
was disappointing, and it'll probably disappoint you now if you
waited after before. But it's it comes from the Latin
root power, meaning against and the French word shoot meaning full,
so it just means against four.
Speaker 3 (53:33):
Thank god it works, doesn't and yeah, very crypto, but
it works well.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
I mean it's a pretty classy name that whover named
it back in the day, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
Yeah, hickeya, Chris, how are you this afternoon?
Speaker 8 (53:46):
Hey?
Speaker 16 (53:46):
Good things? Guys? Good, I hope you can hear me
okay while I'm.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Driving, got you loud and clear?
Speaker 16 (53:53):
Good, very good. Not such an entertaining story about brand name,
but it's it's interesting. And Hi, Matt's good to meet
you a couple of weeks ago at the family Christmas party.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Good ay, Chris, how are your mate?
Speaker 8 (54:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (54:06):
Good good? Yeah, I was listening as delivering and going.
You know what, our name, which is kind Faith, kind Faith,
came about thanks to just in the art urn.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
If I'm allowed to say that out loud, might rile
up the text machine a little bit here.
Speaker 16 (54:25):
Yeah, yeah, well with Our business is a commercial sewing
and upholstery business in Avondale by old school makers of
product and COVID killed it, stuff us in our tracks
and drank a little bit of whiskey, talked to a
mate within the branding game. Realized that be kind, be kind,
be kind was becoming a thing, and so we decided
(54:45):
to make face mask to keep ourselves in business during
COVID times. And Kind Faith was basically be kind face
mark and went well. We stayed in business, We created
a website, we grew a great community of people that
love new Zilla made products. But these days we don't
make face Mark, and it's time to maybe change the brand.
(55:08):
So we're actually going through that process. Do we start
again under a different brand name or do we keep
kind Faith? And we sort of yees s buck in
the middle, but we are going to launch a new
brand in March next year because these days we make
products that help people sleep.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah. Well, well, going back to that Christmas party situation, Chris,
we were involved in a secret Santa situation and one
of your sleeping masks, your woolen sleeping mask, was one
of the secret Sanders. I was trying to run the
whole thing so I could get at but but it
was it was it was stolen off me from a
(55:42):
German exchange script student.
Speaker 15 (55:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 16 (55:45):
That went quite well. Here earned ten dollars and he
got a free mark from that first movie. So so
thank you for buying a couple of mattes. Actually those
were those are the weighted eye marked so the wall
sleep masks are a different things these days. Were actually
making sort of the very best pillows Doves sleep mask
featuring New Zealand's wall. So time to sort of I'm
(56:07):
curious to know if you know out there says what
a done name kinding space is for Hello.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Sleep.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Do you think there's a there's a sort of a
negative residue hanging over from the whole be kind thing
in COVID.
Speaker 25 (56:22):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 16 (56:23):
I've had a few people pick on that once they
sort of, you know, learn where it came from. But
also it gets in the world of branding and business,
you usually try and have a link like you're well
hung wallpaper and it Yeah, you know what you're doing,
what you're selling. That will save you a bit of
time and money and education trying to tell people what
you do. So I can I can share now that
(56:45):
we're going to launch do not disturb and March, which
is going to be sleep focused products that are basically
the best sleep products in the world. And then we're
making the New Zealand from the Well and Well.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
Yeah, because will is will is a very very sleepy substance.
Isn't that it's very good for sleeping?
Speaker 16 (57:04):
That's honestly so good. And we've we've evolved into this.
I'm going of my farming background. We just love making
things there in our workroom and Avondale and learn that
Will behaves performs better than any of the synthetics that
we are making for other customers. And we have good
friends that are becoming good Wise wool and they're they're
the ones supplying this incredible pure and New Zealin wool
(57:24):
that gets engineered into to be like a synthetic like product,
but no no chemicals, no nasties, and the farmers are
getting paid above the costs for their will. So it's
like a win win story. We just need more people
to know about it and more people to support support
New Zellan made and at the moment it's kind face
otherwise it could be or should be do not disturb
(57:46):
in March next year.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Well, I'm given away six, Well, I can, I can,
I can recommend your product fantastic. I'm a big fan
of sleeping and these these kind faces they are fantastic
and having the wool on your face and you can
put them through the microwave. You can cool them down,
depending what the season is. Yeah, so kind face about
to be do not deserve so buy them now and
(58:08):
then by them again when the name changes.
Speaker 16 (58:13):
Already.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
Yeah, share and share are like yougaver Chris, thank you
all the best. Right, what a great discussion. Just one
more text here. There's a company in christ Church guys
called Knobs and Knockers. They do door hardware like that,
Knobs and knocks.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Robbers and Knockers. Okay, yeah, I get it. I feel
like there's a new Zealand. Maybe that says something about us,
but it seems like names with a slight double entendre,
a slight sexual nature. It seemed to go really well in.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
This Costeah exactly right. That is where we'll leave it.
Headlines coming up, and then we've got another topic on
the table for you. Stand by. It's twenty nine to three.
Speaker 13 (58:52):
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Now back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Thank you very much, Rayleen. It's twenty six to three, so.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
New Zealand has won the third test against England. Comprehensively
by over four hundred runs. But that's the end for
Tim Souey and what a great New Zealand he is
and what a fantastic bowler and servant he has been
for New Zealand. Cricket debuted when he was nineteen years old. Wow,
he's retiring now at thirty six, So that's basically all
he's nine because you consider the amount of cricket he
(01:00:26):
would have had to play before he could get into
the Black Caps. So an entire life spent into cricket.
And it was interesting because the other day his father
was being interviewed about his retirement and had this to say.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
He just loves cricket. He can't imagine life without cricket.
Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
So he's going to have a whole life without cricket.
It's going to be an interesting situation. Before him, his
dad bought him a set of stumps when he was
ten and basically Tim Southy's just been bowling at stumps
ever since. And it's a really interesting thing being a
professional sports person because I've talked to a number of
them when they retire and their life is very different
(01:01:02):
because every day when you're on tour, it's like staying
in school the whole time, or staying in an institution,
you've become institutionalized. Every day you get a turnery of
what you're doing that day slipped under your door. And
then suddenly you retire and you've got to You've got
to look after your home, your whole life. You've got
to build your life back here at home. It's an
age transition, interesting transition. I mean, I'm sure he won't
be wanting for money, but I had a bit of
(01:01:25):
a rare insight into what it was like for Tim
Saudi when they went over to India to follow the
Royal Challenges Bangalore when he was playing for them and
stayed in the same hotel as the team. Bass McCullum
was in the team, then Daniel Ltroru is coaching, there
were a few other New Zealanders there and they were
just stuck in that hotel because they couldn't really go
(01:01:46):
outside of the Royal the ritz Ban Bangalore incredibly flash hotel,
so they were just entrenched in there, lived in there,
and Bass mcallum and so there's such big stars they
couldn't even really go down to the restaurant without being
massively hassled and then they'd be picked up in their
buses and taken to the ground to practice or taken
to the grounds to play, and so it's it's quite
(01:02:09):
a really fun life obviously, but quite an institutionalized a life.
So you know, all the best to him, Southy're going forties.
He's such a great guy. He's really really funny, fun
human being, and he's just been so great for New Zealand,
especially those glory years with him and Trent Bolt bowling
from each end. Absolutely fantastic. So sad day, but absolute
(01:02:34):
great New Zealander and all the best for him for
the future.
Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Yep, go down as one of the greatest, nicely said.
Right onto our next topic. So, as school holidays start
around the country, thousands of parents are trying to work
out how to juggle work in school holidays when kids
get at least twelve weeks off during the year and
adults only four. So Alan Ford, she is author and
founder of the hashtag workschool hours movement, said it was
a major problem. She said the hours of work roughly
(01:02:58):
forty hours a week nine to five forty eight ish
weeks of the year. All that was cemented more than
a century ago with the henry Ford, Carmen Fetching area.
This was amazing social progress on its time, but it
assumed every household had one worker and one caregiver of
the child. That is very much changed in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yeah. Absolutely. Another thing has changed is that we've decided
that kids can't look after themselves at home. And so
if you look at the rules according to the government
here leaving children by themselves, you can leave a child
under fourteen at home or in another place if you
have made reasonable provisions to have them supervised and cared
for safely, and if they're not left alone for if
(01:03:41):
they're not left for a long time. So these are
the government regulations, so they're pretty pretty vague. Parents, guardians
and caregivers can be fined a maximum two thousand dollars
under the if they do not make safe care arrangements
for their child.
Speaker 21 (01:03:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
So maybe the solution is, and this could be controversial,
is kids need to be looking after themselves at home.
A ten year old can look after themselves at home. Yeah,
that used to be the way. That is part of
the problem. People are rushing across town to look after
a ten year old, a ten year old and I
read this fantastic book by Jonathan Hyde called The Coddling
(01:04:18):
of America, and he was basically saying, if you want
to bring up competent children that are emotionally strong, then
you leave them to look after themselves as much as
you can. You get them to walk to the shops
with themselves. You need to walk home from school by themselves.
You leave them in the house as much as you can.
So are we just helicoptering our parents into stress for
(01:04:38):
ourselves when it comes around our jobs. Surely you can
go to work and leave a ten year old at
home by themselves for the day. Especially now in these phones,
they can get hold of you.
Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
There's a lot of options there. If anything goes wrong,
you can get a hold of parents or a key
giver really fast. But just going back on the old
school pickup, most kids get picked up by the parents
outside of the school gates. There's no walking to and
from school, there's no cycling. My mum would never think
about picking me up from school, not one iota. You said,
you can walk back back to the house and the
(01:05:11):
door will be unlocked. I'm going to finish work in
a couple of hours. Make yourself a cheese toasty, and
we'll have tea when I get home.
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, I mean, I used to love getting home and
my parents. You know, my mum was a teacher and
my dad would be at work. I'd get home, there'd
be no one home. I would make so much food.
I would have basically an entire loaf of white bread
was turned into peanut butter sandwiches, the glass of milk
at every biscuit in the house that I could find,
and I'd sit down and watch TV. Happy days.
Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Loads were the best hours of my life. If my
older bro was at sport and I had the house
to myself, that was such good time.
Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Surely that's better than my parents having to race across
town to be home to what sit in another room? Yeah,
I mean, I mean, are we just? I mean, kids
used to go to work. And the interesting thing about
school holidays and why they're so long is when they
were working out those school holidays back in the day,
it was because families needed their kids to help on
(01:06:03):
the farm over the summer break. Yeah, and so that's
why they had long holidays.
Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Right, Yeah. And the more kids you had, the more
workers you had. It was our word word situation it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
So I understand what she's saying that the system is
an old system that hasn't changed, but we haven't helped
ourselves by freaking out too much about our kids.
Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Yep. In my opinion, oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty,
have we got a little bit too precious with kids
staying at home by themselves or walking to and from
school by themselves. Loves to hear from you on this one.
Nine two ninety two is the text number. It is
nineteen to three.
Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way.
Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty
four youth talks.
Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
They'd be good afternoon sixteen to three.
Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
We're talking about the enormous mismatch there is between the
four weeks holiday that most New Zealand parents get and
the twelve weeks holiday that their kids get. And it
doesn't really work out if you're trying to work a
forty hour week but you have to also be at
home with your kids, and there is some pressure on
employers to be flexible around that. But that's some issues
(01:07:12):
now in a tough you know, a tough employment market.
If you're looking for that kind of flexibility and your
employee is not, then And also, you know people have
been complaining before, and you were complaining to me earlier today, Tyler,
about how you've been in workplaces where there's been you
don't have kids, and there's been people that have kids,
and you've had to take up the slack because people
(01:07:33):
with kids have got to rush off and do their
kid thing.
Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Yeah, which can be controversial in a workplace. And I
feel for a lot of parents out there. And the
fact of the matter is that most young parents both
have to work right after they get off opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
I mean, that's how our economy is now. It used
to be a time when one working parent could make
enough money to run a family, but now our economy
is geared such that both both mum and dad generally speaking,
have to work either full time or one full time
one part time. But yeah, it just doesn't work between
the four weeks holiday and the twelve weeks holiday.
Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
And you've asked the question, what is wrong with leaving
kids under fourteen at home just for a couple of
hours while you finish the working day. The kids can
get in there have a nice feed, get the two
minute noodles on and they'll be fine. They put on
the telly. It's a good time.
Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
It's bloody good for them. I disagree with this idea
that you shouldn't leave kids under fourteen at home alone.
Like why fourteen kids? Ten?
Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
I say ten thirteen? They should be out working.
Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
I think at five they used to be down the
bloody chimneys back in the day, and now they can't
look after themselves at ten.
Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Yeah, come on, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Love to hear from you on this one, Joe, how
are you dahn?
Speaker 26 (01:08:49):
Good?
Speaker 12 (01:08:50):
Mate?
Speaker 6 (01:08:50):
Good?
Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Hey?
Speaker 27 (01:08:51):
Yeah, I reckon. These people that drive their kids to school,
they're just over the top. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 24 (01:08:57):
You know.
Speaker 27 (01:08:57):
We have all this problem of the roads of cars
clogging up the roads in the morning and in the afternoon,
and it's all due mostly two people take their kids
cool and picking them up. Just ridiculous. I drive a
school bus and I use it about forty forty children
(01:09:18):
on my bus getting to the school gate, which is
probably about just about two ks and it's something a
bumper and it stop go stop, go, stop go. And
one morning I had a girl who was walking on
the poop path and she beat us to the gates.
Speaker 8 (01:09:37):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 27 (01:09:38):
Yeah, it's just ridiculous, mate.
Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I think what happens is it becomes a group mentality
as well. Is because everyone's dropping their kids off, there
seems like there's less kids walking to school. But if
everyone stopped dropping their kids off, and of course there's
some people that do there further away and it's more
difficult in big cities than it is in small towns
and whatever, But if there was just a general general
(01:10:01):
movement towards kids walking to school and walking home from school,
a would take the pressure off the parents and there
would just be more kids out and about, so it
would appear to be safe.
Speaker 27 (01:10:10):
It's appearance, Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Do you think a big part of it, I mean,
I'm just sorry to jump in there is a big
part of it as their appearance, particularly younger Pearans, they
don't think it's safe for their kids to walk to school.
Speaker 27 (01:10:25):
Well, what's wrong with a walking bus? You know?
Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
I mean.
Speaker 27 (01:10:30):
It must be a good pens that come from the
same area and they could all walk together, which would
be safer. Yeah, yeah, I mean I can understand that
side of the story as well.
Speaker 8 (01:10:41):
But I don't know.
Speaker 27 (01:10:43):
I mean, we had the same problems. It's not in
such the largest scale. When I went to school, you know,
it was stranger, danger and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 8 (01:10:52):
So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 27 (01:10:55):
I think you can just be too protective of the kids,
you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
I thank you so much for you called Joe. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Plenty of teach coming through. On nine two, niney two, crikey,
I left my twelve year old nephew alone for one hour.
He put a metal dish in the microwave and boiled
the jugg Right, great idea, regards Donald Omaru.
Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Yeah, well he learned. That's that doesn't sound like that
was bad. That was wasn't that bad? Yeah? So is
that the worst story you've got there? That's a great idea.
Put a metal dish in the microwave. It's fine. I've
done that before.
Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Yeah, it doesn't end well, but you know, quickly learned
a lesson.
Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
That's a kid learning a lesson.
Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Josie, how are you this afternoon?
Speaker 13 (01:11:33):
Hi?
Speaker 17 (01:11:33):
Good, thank you.
Speaker 20 (01:11:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 17 (01:11:35):
I had an incident where I finished we get three
thirty and my kids would walk home and I set
up the shed, so then they went in the house
in case the chuches stave and blah blah blah. One
was intermediate, one was Standard four. And I got a
knock at the door and it was Child, Youth and Family.
I'm believing my kids at home for half an hour
(01:11:58):
to forty five minutes. I wasn't allowed to do that.
But the funniest thing is my kids were left to
pay down the park alone.
Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Yeah yeah, well also also well also allowed to walk home.
Was also allowed to walk home to the shed. So
I mean were they more danger walking home or in
the shed?
Speaker 13 (01:12:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 17 (01:12:18):
Yeah, yeah, So you know that was a bit of
a thing that you can leave your kids at the
past and supervised, but you can't leave them at your
house in because there was nothing in there, just the
TV and that for them. But also I think we
just watched too much American staff. People don't want to
steal kids there. They can't even look after the young
(01:12:39):
kids little go and steal some Yeah, yeah, I think
it's a bit ridiculous. Actually, well, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
It's interesting if you if you read that that the
coddling of America by Jonathan Hyde. It's fantastic, but he he.
His theory is that there was there was a kid
that went missing in New York and his father went
on this big campaign to to help missing kids, and
so what that was. What happened then was they started
putting a face on it milk cartons of missing kids.
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So that became a thing across all of America. So
every morning people would get up and see a picture
of a missing kid. Never mind the fact that most
of the missing kids were by far ninety five percent
of them were just being picked up by a different
parent or whatever they were. There wasn't really the level
of stranger danger that they thought out there. But there
was a huge panic that came across all It came
across all American parents because every day they saw this
(01:13:31):
picture of a missing kid and they went, oh, no,
kids are getting stolen everywhere. They started driving their kids
to school. And where America goes, the world follows. So
England followed, and then we followed, and now we've got
this whole situation where we're picking out kids of and
dropping off.
Speaker 17 (01:13:45):
Yeah, it takes out because independence away, you know, they're
not allowed to like kids are nothing like they used
to they when I grew up, you know, you could
get a grade knee and you can get all these
sorts of stuff, climb trees and stuff. Now they don't
know how to do half for that, you know, entertainment
is you've got to take them somewhere. They can't figure
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it out the main south. So all that stuff is
just added to Wow, our kids are so not independent.
Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Yeah, thank you very much, Josie. I mean that is
an interesting fact there. It's almost like a contagian, isn't it.
That fear as you say constantly, I've seen that kid
on the back of the milk carton. But there's been
all of those various skies over the last even thirty years,
you know, there was the Satanic panic. I mean, there's
just these social contagians that take a hold.
Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Well, the thing is that you want the knowledge that
your kids can survive on their own without you. I mean,
that's the whole point of being a parent. Right as
quickly as you can, you can make them independent. And
until they can do things on their own, then they
will never be independent. And if you're ever present, and
they're only safe when you're ever present, you're not really
bringing up a safe kid. You're bringing up a kid
when you teach them independence and they're proud that they
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look after themselves and they are competent to go out
into the world. But if you just look after them,
pick them up, drop them off, you say that they
can't be on their own, then when they're nineteen eighteen
or whenever they leave the house, they're still freaking useless.
Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Yeah, that's why they struggle when they get into the
university halls and don't know how to cook.
Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
An egg, and then they're asking for safe space.
Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Love to hear
your thoughts on this one. It is eight minutes to.
Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Three the issues that affect you and a bit of
fun along the way. Matt Heaton, Taylor Adams Afternoons you
for twenty twenty four you talk SEDB News.
Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Talk said B. It is five to three. Plenty of
texts coming through on this one. As an employer in hospitality,
how do parents expect to be able to take time
off during school holidays? In our and a majority of businesses,
childcare is the responsibility of the parents, not the employer,
which is a fair point, and that was on the
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original story about this campaign, which was hashtag works school
hours movement. I mean, that's a big push on employers.
Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
But we feels like employers have to take on quite
a lot. Yeah really, but we do want more kids.
I mean, obviously, with the population decline, one thing New
Zealand does need is more more kids. So we have
to make it possible for that to happen. But we
currently live in an economy where both parents have to
work basically and most families to stay above water. So
(01:16:27):
it's a complex situation.
Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
I don't think it's the business owners responsibility. Yea, society
is changing, but there's not a business owner's fault. You know,
this whole idea of four day work weeks and I
only want to work school hours because my kid's tiny
and I want to spend time with them. We get
all that, but they's not down to the boss. The
Bossu's got to make a profit.
Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Is it time for the country just to make the
school year longer instead of twelve weeks holiday? You just
put school holidays in line with parent holidays.
Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Do them well? Eight hours a day kids?
Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Yeah, you get them a nine till five point thirty
just like their parents, and they are at school as
much as their parents are at work.
Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Yep, sounds good to me right new Sport and where
they're coming up we will catch it. On the other
side of that, you're listening to Matt and Tail Hope
you having a great afternoon. We'll catch us soon.
Speaker 8 (01:17:14):
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Speaker 26 (01:17:15):
Sweet silver bells seem to say Christmas is here and
bringing Engod here too young, and don't think the boat.
Speaker 18 (01:17:24):
Song with joyful Currently one seems to hear words a
good cheer from everywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
For insightful and entertaining talk, It's Maddie and Tyler Adams
afternoons on news Talks Hebby.
Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
News Talks Ebby seven past three. Well, as you heard
in the news with Railing, a seven point four magnitude
earthquake has struck near Vanawatu. Had a depth of ten kilometers.
There may be some tidal movements, but will keep you
updated as the afternoon progresses to stay tuned, but very
shortly we will be chatting to Nadia Limb. She is
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part of our great New Zealanders of Christmas series.
Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Yes started off yesterday with Diehindward and we've got Jude
Dobson tomorrow she read a fantastic book this year called
The Secret Agent.
Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Yep. Absolutely, And speaking of fantastic books, we're going to
give away two copies of a Life lest Punishing Thirteen
Ways to Love the Life. You've got the number one
best seller by Matt Heath. So looking forward to giving
that away.
Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Matt Heath. You Mad Heath from Matt and Tyler Afternoons
on news Talks.
Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
He'd be He's still on a right these days, isn't
he Yes, I'm looking forward to that at the end
of the show.
Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
But right now we're talking about this issue. The hours
of work roughly forty hours a week, nine to five
forty eight weeks of the year. That's the situation we're
in now. As school holidays start around the country, thousands
of parents are trying to work out how to juggle
work and school holidays. When kids get at least twelve
weeks off during the year and adults only get fought
the math on, it doesn't seem great. No, And as
(01:18:59):
this Texas says, why don't we change it so the
kids get four weeks instead of changing what the parents do? Yeah,
And that is interesting because in some countries like Japan,
the kids go to school all day, so you talk
about the nine to five part of it. So kids
in Japan are going to school from nine to five thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
And it kind of makes sense. I mean, and I
don't know if those Japanese kids are boarding, but I
know there are some countries where they stay at school
over the Christmas period because they're in the boarding house
and they can't go home because their parents aren't there
to look after them. I mean, why can't we just
have that around the clock.
Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Or as I'm suggesting, why can't we get rid of
this rubbish? This is from GUFT dot Nz. So these
are the laws. You can leave a children under fourteen
at home or another place if you've made reasonable provisions
to have them supervised and cared for safely, and they're
not left for a long time, so you've made reasonable provisions.
(01:19:49):
So that seems to me reasonable provisions for someone under fourteen,
as they've got a cell phone that they can ring
mum and dad or a neighbor if there's a problem.
This can mean if the child is under fourteen and
left alone without reasonable provision for their supervisional care for
an unreasonable length of time. What's an unreasonable length of
time or an unreasonable circumstances. A parents, guardians, or caregivers
(01:20:10):
can be fined a maximum of two thousand dollars. I reckon,
we need to shell out and let ten year old
kids be at home by themselves.
Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Yeah, that was the case when I was ten years old.
Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
It certainly was the case when I was ten years
old as well. And look at you and me, Tyler,
We've turned out fantastically, says, have hundreds of textas through
or nine two nine two. So when did we become
so freaked out about it? And that's an interesting theory,
And maybe i'll share this writing from American social psychologist
and author Jonathan Hite. You might have read his book
(01:20:44):
Coddling of America. It's a great read if you're thinking
about this. And he's also got a new book out
called The Anxious Generation. He's looking into and the two
things are tired. He believes that the anxiety that a
lot of young people are feeling now, the gen z's
and younger and a little bit of millennial millennial losers
like you, Tyler and I offense is maybe the overcoddling
of these children. And there's nothing like the independence that
(01:21:07):
can be learned by being a ten eleven year old
at home. Sow you mail confidence r, making your own sandwiches, yeah,
knives and forks in the microwave, and seeing what happens
getting the noodles on er minute noodles. Oh, one hundred
eighty ten eighty loved to hear from you on this one.
Welly sticks from Mars, don't throw stones and glasshouses. You
two work four hours a day?
Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Yeah, well we worked hard to get your mate, Tony.
How are you?
Speaker 21 (01:21:32):
I'm good, mate?
Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 21 (01:21:33):
Good. This in relation to that last call you had
the bus driver. Yeah, I've got this about this school
holiday time. The roads are fantastic, right, they're pretty good? Yeah?
Why don't tweet? This is just my idea. Make school
buses free to all children that use them, and if
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their parents insist on having to drop them at the
gate of the school, they pay a levy which pays
for the buses for their cads to go. Then they
have a sticker on their card to so that they're permitted,
and if they get caught having to dropping kids off
out without the sticker on their car, they get a
hefty fine which.
Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Is sort of a bucket, sort of a coddling tax,
a helicopter parent tax.
Speaker 21 (01:22:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just my idea.
Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
I like, I like your thinking.
Speaker 21 (01:22:24):
Yeah yeah, so there. So I actually put it in
an AA survey once when they asked about different things
on traffic. But I never got to a stop.
Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Well in the in the in the States, they have
the school buses, don't they. Nearly every kid has a
school bus that that they make, the yellow ones.
Speaker 21 (01:22:42):
I read the score on a school bus, you know,
from a very early age, and I was walking to
school when I was eight nine ten, easy yea yeah,
problem at all.
Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
And the independence you get as a kid walking to
school is it's, you know, taking charge of your life
and you'll learn some lessons on the way. You know,
you might get into the odd.
Speaker 21 (01:23:04):
The other thing is that gives you a really good
break between the school and getting home. So you've got
that sort of maybe half hour or twenty minutes or
whatever and limbo really were you're sort of shaking off
the school day and then you're going into another type
of your life. It's a nice sort of break between
the two. That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
I remember when I was I remember when I was
a kid, we lived quite a way away from school,
so my dad had to drop us off at school,
and he'd often have like sheep or something in the trailer,
and one of my sisters would be humiliated by that,
so she'd ask him to drop her.
Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Off a down the road.
Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Yes, so she shouldn't be seen me drop off school
with the sheep. And the still can't work out why
that was embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Thank you, Tony, Yeah, very good. Oh eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number call. I mean,
there's got to be something. And I know you're going
to read their piece out from Jonathan Hight very shortly.
But when kids are told that it is no longer
safe for you to walk to school and mummy, mummy
and daddy have to drop you off because it's scary
out there and there's that may hit you and these
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bad people who may take you, that doesn't do good
things to the kid's brain.
Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
No it doesn't. But also I think, and this is
just talking for myself, but I remember when our kids
were little, there was a certain amount of I think
I call it bad parenting on my behalf. I couldn't
be bothered waiting for them to put their shoes and
put their clothes on and working out what they were
going to do. So I just dress them, put their
shoes on, put them in the car, and drop them
off to school. And it was like bundling it up
(01:24:34):
and just getting it done so I could get on
with my day, as opposed to the slight admin around
you independently get ready, you learn how to do your
shoelaces up, and you walk to school, you know. And
so there was even though it seems like more effort
to do that, it was a kind of a laziness
in it because you just got it done. And I
remember one a grandparent, a mother in law, she said
(01:24:56):
to me that you've got to let the kids sort
themselves out, or else they'll never learn. You know, You've
got to get You've just got to stand there while
it's punishing, while they're trying to do up their shoelacers,
and you've just got to let them walk out the
door and go to school. And that was once I
realized that was good for them. That was a big
change for us.
Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
What about if you just said, look, I don't have time,
I got to get to work. If you can't get
your shoes on and get yourself to work. Well, tough pickies,
you're going to get in trouble with the principal. Yeah,
well yeah, it's effectively it, right, yeah, saying look you
got to go to school. Oh eight one hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number call. There's a good text here, guys.
I was born in nineteen sixty nine. Back then, you
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were encouraged to give your babies fresh air. My mum
went to pick my brother's up from school and left
me as a baby asleep on the porch. When she
got home, there was a note pinned to my best
In it it said called in to check on baby
doing well from Plunket.
Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Is that that says it's from Paula Bennett? Is that
from Paula Bennett?
Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Paula Benett, I think she's listening well.
Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
So she was sleeping out on the best in it
and she did pretty well for herself, very well. She
rose to the top of politics in New Zealand on
the back of that. Exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Didn't do you hear any harm? It is a quarter
past three. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. Good afternoon, eighteen past three, Bowen,
How are you this afternoon.
Speaker 10 (01:26:13):
Yeah, good mate, So, yeah, good.
Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
What's your take on this?
Speaker 12 (01:26:16):
Hey, I just.
Speaker 10 (01:26:17):
Listening earlier and I heard the lady call up and
said that she had CPS come to her house because
her sons or her kids were in the garage after school.
Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Yes, I just I thought.
Speaker 10 (01:26:32):
That absolutely ridiculous. I feel like I feel like I'm
like an old man right now. But it's just, you know,
it's flabbergasting, really, like, well, we all know that there's
thousands of kids around there that don't get looked after
at all.
Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
And then you know, yeah, I think she I think
she was setting up it was in the shed and
she was setting up a little TV for them. So
they were coming home, and it was the gap between
when they came walked home from school when she got home,
and she was worried that they'll be in the house
and there was too many things in the house. So
in a way, in my opinion, she was being overly
protective because I think the kids will be fine in
the house. So good strategy, one hundred percent. It sounds
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a bit rough to come and give her a hassle
about that.
Speaker 10 (01:27:12):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Well, I'll tell you what my
parents would have got to smack over the back of
the hand because I was probably you know, ten. We
were out on the farm, so it was a bit different.
Speaker 16 (01:27:23):
But you know, i'd be.
Speaker 10 (01:27:24):
Out there for a couple hours. My dad would go
milk or whatever. And you know, like you said earlier,
you make a mistake once and you don't do it
again and you just learn from it. And like what
you guys were saying even earlier than that, you know,
you come home, make a massive feed, you know, watch TV,
do whatever you want to do. That is the best
time in your life.
Speaker 12 (01:27:42):
Really.
Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
I still look back so fondly on the massive feeds
that i'd make when I got home. In fact, I
was so stoked when I got home and there was
no parents there, which was every day afterward, but for
a while there, Yeah, so stoked with the feeds you
could make.
Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Yeah, because of it. You'd have the whole chunk of
cheese to yourself and you get into the bread and
Mum had two minute noodles there. Man, it was a
good time.
Speaker 16 (01:28:03):
It was.
Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
If it was after shopping day, which was on Thursday
for us, you just have a whole packet of tim Tam.
Good times.
Speaker 10 (01:28:09):
Yeah, yeah, mylon was I went through the whole whole
packet of bacon and eggs.
Speaker 15 (01:28:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:28:18):
Yeah, but that's all I wanted to say. I was
just a bit surprised that, you know, they put the
time of money into coming and pustling someone who you
know does that work, and then you know, not out
all night or anything like that. We all know that
there's people out there that will leave their kids home
for days or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Yeah, well, thanks so much for you call bowen and
Merry Christmas. So I just want to work out there
because this is what it says. This is this, this
is the government. You know, this is from the government website.
GUFT said you can leave a child under fourteen at
home or in another place if they've made reasonable provisions
to have them supervised and cared for safely, and they're
not left for a long time. So what what are
(01:28:57):
reasonable provisions and what's not too long?
Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
It's super vague, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
So I'd say if if a ten year old walks
home from school and they're there at home from three
point fifteen to when parents get home at five thirty,
I'm going to say that's not too long. Come and
reasonable provisions as they know how to use a cell
phone exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
I think we've sold this for the governments. Oh, one
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 9 (01:29:21):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
I was talking about Jonathan Height before, and I've read
a couple of his books, and I rate the guy,
an American social psychologist, and he was writing this about
that this is the general thinking in Western countries. He says,
it's not worth it to take my eyes off my
kids ever, because if they are abducted, I will be breefed.
It will it be all my fault. And he says
this is worst worst first thinking, thinking about the very
(01:29:45):
worst case scenario first and proceeding as if that is
likely to happen. It feels natural, But actually it's only
a recent cultural habit. It's not innate. Worrying is innate. Yes,
love and caring are innate, but worrying constantly about abduction
and death is not innate. As we can see from
our own parents, who weren't obsessed with these thoughts, and
from people in other countries where this kind of catastrophizing
(01:30:07):
was not has not become routine. There's never been a
safer time to be a kid in America. The UK, Canada,
Australia and New Zealand dimensions. But that doesn't matter people.
People won't take that on. So he says, how can
you deal with this fact? Like how can you get
parents to change? And he says parents have to be
(01:30:27):
persuaded to let their kids go do something on their own.
When the kids return home glowing with pride or simply
excited that their parents trusted them, that changes the parents
because what is innate is the knowledge that someday our
children will have to survive when we are no longer here.
Until they do something on their own, all we know
is that they are safe because we are ever present
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protecting them. To finally see that your kids have what
it takes to make it as independent humans to carry
on when you are gone, that is the real game changer.
And I think that you can reach that level of
independence under fourteen.
Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Absolutely you got to build resilience, and I think that's
good for kids.
Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
And I think that this would solve this problem here
of it's having twelve weeks holiday and us only having.
Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Four exactly oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call will wrap this up very shortly. It
is twenty three past three.
Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
News Talk zed B. It is twenty five past three.
Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
We're talking about the discrepancy between kids who get twelve
weeks holiday and they're all on holiday now and parents who,
some of them, only get four weeks holiday. It's a
bit complicated. Someone here is texta and on to the
kids could fix the potholes in the roads in their holidays. Well,
it certainly used to be the case that that's.
Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
What the kids.
Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Kids were working now a lot younger than fourteen. I
don't know if we want to send the kids back
up the chimneys though.
Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
Well, the nation's in trouble. We need all the we
need all the help we can get right now, all.
Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Hands on the palm and the holidays. If they're doing
nothing for twelve weeks, let's get them out there doing
something productive.
Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
Exactly, Andrew, how are you? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:32:08):
Yeah, good, thanks guys. I think Tyler already answered my
question around ages and things fourteen and under. But I've
been little, you know, I've been living abroad, and yeah,
I just I couldn't sometimes I didn't see my kids
(01:32:31):
for all day or even Well, you go and look
for them at nighttime and then you go, oh, they're over,
they're over a friend's place, you know, blah blah blah.
So I mean that's really good. But I think yeah,
for me, I mean, my parents made me. Oh, we
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had a one hour bus trip into into school and
then it was a four mile uphill walked home and
then they went home then and often they weren't home
on weekend. But you do get I think you've got
(01:33:13):
to lay down some rules of the road, which my
parents actually didn't do very well for us. So me
and my brother just you know, locked the car and
tried to learn how to drive down the road. Yeah,
sorts of things.
Speaker 9 (01:33:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
Yeah, what part of the country when you're living in Andrew,
you're pretty rural, I take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, no,
thank you very much, Andrew. There used to be a
PSA I think it was an America what would play
at about eight o'clock at night and would say do
you know where your children are? But that was what
it used to be like, right is, by the time
it got dark, if your kids weren't home, there might
(01:33:49):
be something going on, But most parents in New Zealand
and in America would be okay as long as the
kids came home before it got too dark.
Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Yeah, and then and if you grew up in Eden
like I did, when it got too dark in summer,
that's pretty late at night. Yeah, it's ten o'clock. But
someone here said, Matt, when did you mean to say
a whole packet of Tim tan or did you mean
to say Tim Tams, which is grammatically correct? Bless blessed, blessed.
You've seen Busy says as text. This is an issue
that I'll go on a lot.
Speaker 11 (01:34:15):
I was.
Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
I was briefly the voice of Tim Tam in New Zealand,
and the good people at Aren't It would say to me,
it's one Tim Tam, it's five Tim Tam. It's not
five Tim Tam. It's not Tim TAM's love for Tim Tam.
And I'll eat multiple Tim Tam. Yeah, I'll have five
Tim Tam. And you're going to upsets the texts here.
But if you listen to a Tim Tam, ad that's
(01:34:38):
that they said, there's no paral of it. They're all
that's Tim Tam.
Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
That's a good pier say for Tim tam right. That
is where we'll leave it because we've got Nadi Limbs
standing by as part of our Great New Zealanders of
Christmas series. It is twenty eight to three headlines with
Rayling coming up.
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Back to Matteathan Tyler attam.
Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Well, it was another huge year for chef, author, entrepreneur,
farmer and TV star Nadia Limb. The second season of
Nadia's Farm had our screens showcasing the raw realities of
her and husband Carlos Beggary's farming. There one thy two
hundred acre royal burn station. It is a delight to
have Nadia Limb on to have a chat, a hit
of Christmas. Here you Nadia today, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 25 (01:36:33):
You.
Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Yeah, you're the second of our great New Zealanders of
Christmas series. So yeah, problem. So let's get stuck in.
How how has the farm gone this year? What were
the big challenges?
Speaker 28 (01:36:46):
Oh, everything is such a hard game, honestly, not for
the faint hearted. Carlos and I feel like this is
the hardest, trickiest, biggest challenge that we've ever taken on.
And we've done a lot of different things in our careers,
but it's just really really hard to make it make
(01:37:07):
financial sense farming is I mean, you hear it that
you've got to do it for the love of it
and for the lifestyle, they say, But there I say
it. It is kind of true, like you wouldn't do it
unless you really really loved it.
Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Yeah, and you're still really and you still really really
love it.
Speaker 6 (01:37:24):
I do.
Speaker 28 (01:37:24):
It's kind of well, it's kind of like this love
hate relationship. It's like all good relationships, right, Yeah, what's
I mean?
Speaker 29 (01:37:32):
So it's stunning whenever you know, we're like I'm just
looking outside now, looking at We're surrounded by the mountains
and very lush green parties at the moment because it's
been a very wet spring, but we've had some good heat.
Speaker 28 (01:37:44):
And it's just beyond breathtaking stunning, and nothing beats that,
Like yeah, sure, sure it doesn't. It isn't the best
financial investment really, but it's stunning. I wouldn't. I wouldn't
change it for anything else.
Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
It's the beauty of Nadia's farm. And I mean both seasons,
but particularly seasons. So it's warts and all, isn't it.
And I use the word raws specifically because it is
it shows all the challenge that you're going through and
the things that aren't working right. I mean, you must
get some good feedback from other farmers to say, yeah,
this is farming in a nutshell.
Speaker 28 (01:38:17):
Yeah. Absolutely. I Mean when we first agreed to do
the show, we were a little bit apprehensive and nervous
as to how it would be perceived. I mean, we
talk with a production company and we said, look, we
don't want this to be an entertainment show. The reason
we're doing this and the reason we've said yes, is
because we want to show real farming. We want to
show everything, you know, the good and the bad, and
(01:38:40):
it has to be real because I feel like there's
a lot of misinformation and miscommunication and misunderstanding between you know,
what goes on on a farm and people that don't
that aren't aren't involved in farming, and there has been
a lot of that stuff happening in the media, and
that's what we wanted to do. We wanted to kind
of help bridge that gap and actually show what it
(01:39:02):
is really like on a farm and the challenges.
Speaker 25 (01:39:03):
That you really do face.
Speaker 28 (01:39:05):
And I mean, if you've watched this show, you would
have just challenge, challenge, challenge, everything going wrong after everything,
you know, with some good winds along the way. Like,
I'm really proud of our on site farm avatar. I
know it sounds really gory. It's a very strange thing
to be proud of, and a lot of people will
(01:39:26):
have trouble maybe underd I mean I never even ever,
ever in my life, thought wow, I was going to
one day have like basically you know, a killing shares
avatar on our property. But the reason we did that
was to kind of try and change up the meat
game where instead of animals having to go on trucks
(01:39:47):
and travel long distances you know, to the works, and
it's it's a stressful time, like can we do it
in the best possible way that we can? And so
these animals they live an incredible life, you know, while
they're alive, they really truly live betteralized in most people
around the world that their free range out on open grass,
you know. And then but when it comes to the
(01:40:07):
d day, it's not that pleasant. But we're our being
on the farm. They never have to travel, they're always
at home. You know, it's done so quickly, there's a
little little stress as possible. So I know it sounds
awful and golry talking about this, but I'm just being
real and honest about it.
Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
But that's funny that you say that, because awful and
glory some much of us. Nearly everyone eats meat, but
everyone hides from the actuality of what happens.
Speaker 15 (01:40:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 28 (01:40:33):
Yeah, and that's you know, that's what Carlos and I,
I guess, have always been about, is you know, let's
just let's face the realness and let's show things for
what they are and how food actually gets to your plate.
Speaker 15 (01:40:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
Yeah, So ahead of Christmas, as a farmer of a
very big high country station, do you get a bit
of a Christmas. I suppose you'll get some time with
a family, but then there'll be farming on the other
side of those days as well.
Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Now to you.
Speaker 28 (01:40:59):
Yeah, so the tricky with us, I mean a farmer's
twenty four to seven. There's not really any day off,
especially with our farm because we are so diversified. Oh
so I'm just looking out the doing there's pet sheets
walking across the lawn with the dog following them. But
because we've got so we do you know, we do
crops which kind of seasonal, but the harvest will be
(01:41:21):
on in the middle of summer. So that's Carlos out
on the combine harvester full time twenty four to seven
for three or four weeks. The sheep we do all
throughout the year. And then the chickens they lay eggs
every day. Of course, we've got nine thousand chickens. So
I mean, you know, you'll tell them to take a break,
take a little holiday. They don't have to lay eggs
(01:41:43):
on Christmas Day, but listen, they just keep doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
Yeah, arrogant. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
And so what about are you in charge of the
cooking over Christmas? On Christmas Day? Do you take charge
of that or would you allow someone else to do that?
Speaker 18 (01:41:58):
Oh?
Speaker 28 (01:41:59):
I kind of well, I would allow someone else to
do it because I get the Christmas My Food backs,
which is genius. So I've got we've got twenty people
in total, and I've bought two Christmas My Food bags.
Well actually like my mum bought them. That was her
contribution to save the Christmas. And it's great because you
can trust anyone to take the recipes and make them
(01:42:20):
up because they're easypsy all the instructions are there, all
the ingredients are there. You don't have to go shopping yeah,
so I'm we're guaranteed to have an amazing Christmas beast
with very little effort, which is good.
Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Well, that's good to know because I've just thought in
my food Bad Christmas.
Speaker 28 (01:42:34):
That I've tried the menu a few times and it
is so good. It's really really delicious.
Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
Here's I'm alo beautiful. How old's arlo? Now, Nadia, it's
going to be too stress Oh gorgeous?
Speaker 12 (01:42:49):
Yeah, little wrap bag.
Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
I've got a Chris, I've got a question for you,
and this is going into your expertise, nadialim as as
a as a chef. How do you stop a turkey
from drying out?
Speaker 28 (01:43:03):
Brianett really good idea to brain it just I mean,
if you google Rusty for Brian, you know it's just salt,
sugar water and you could put some spices in it
if you like, like all spice or anything, clothes, whatever
you like, and then soak it in the brine overnight
and that will stop it from drying out.
Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
That I did that last year. It's still dried out.
I don't know what I did wrong. I bind it
for two days. Actually, yeah, I think cooked it. I
think I got arrogant with the over brining and then
overcooked it.
Speaker 28 (01:43:37):
It's I mean, it's just like chicken, no matter what
you do, if you overcooked the chicken.
Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
Yeah yeah, but there's nothing wor sin seeing your family
pretending that you've that they're enjoying the turkey and then
you just go, I know it's.
Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Dry and you hear the crunches are biting.
Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
Down so much.
Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
Cramber, exactly, exactly, Nadia. We're loving the chatty. You're right
to hang with us for another few moments. We'll just
take a quick break and come back with some more questions. Yep, brilliant.
We are chatting to Nadi lerm chef, author, entrepreneur, farm brand,
TV star. You're listening to News talk ed B.
Speaker 4 (01:44:16):
This is a news talk saied B developing story.
Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
Yes, in developing news, National Emergency Management Agency says there
is no tsunami threat to New Zealand after a magnitude
seven point three earthquake off the coast of Vanawatu. So
good news. Just repeating that National Emergency Management Agency says
there is no tsunami threat to New Zealand after a
magnitude seven point three earthquake off the coast of van
(01:44:40):
awa Tu it is nineteen minutes to four back very
shortly with Nadia Limb.
Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
Maddie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on
madd Even Tyler Adams Afternoon News Talk sed B.
Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
We are chatting to Nadia Limb as part of our
great New Zealanders of Christmas series. Thanks again, we're gonna
chat with us. Nadia all good.
Speaker 28 (01:45:03):
I'm so I apologize about the screaming baby.
Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
It's lovely.
Speaker 29 (01:45:07):
We love on the door.
Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Two years old is never going to leave momblong.
Speaker 28 (01:45:15):
Outside with the dogs and the pet.
Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
Lamb, what a life.
Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
Yeah. Hey, I've got another cooking related question, and this
is quite a punishing question. So beer with me, and
I'm actually going to use this against people. But I'm
a big fan of cleaning as I go. Well I'm cooking.
In fact, I've been accused of being more more focused
on cleaning than the actual cooking. What what are your
views on making a mess in the kitchen? How important
it is to clean up? And can a wonderful meal
(01:45:40):
and a good time at Christmas be ruined by a
massive mess by a punisher in your family that uses
every pot in the in the cupboard.
Speaker 28 (01:45:48):
Well, that's that's the answer is very dependent.
Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
On lots of seconds.
Speaker 28 (01:45:52):
Controversial decides to clean it all up and it's not
going to ruin the meal. But as the purse, if
the easter has to clean it all up there, it
would definitely ruin the meal. Yes, it were.
Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
Yeah, that's the thing, isn't it, Because because the you
can't if you're cooking and someone else's cleaning, you have
to have beg for the cleaner.
Speaker 29 (01:46:09):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 28 (01:46:12):
But I think I reckon you've cooked better if you
keep your bench space clean as you go. It's kind
of like, you know, if you've got a messy desk,
you're just not going to do great work. Same kind
of thing.
Speaker 3 (01:46:24):
I noticed it when you're on master Chief. Actually, Nadia,
you're one of the better ones that you cleaned as
you went along and it was noticed. I just say that,
wouldn't yeah saying that, I don't know if I was.
Speaker 28 (01:46:35):
I got told off a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
Who was edited around to make you look better?
Speaker 28 (01:46:40):
Maybe? But I think I think I've gotten better as
I've gotten older. You know, being a mum, it's all
about efficiency and you don't want to get to the
end of I don't have a big pile of dishes.
So I've definitely gotten better.
Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
But equally, you can end up at the other end
of you can end at the other end of things,
which I get accused of just having a very clean
kitchen and a very poor meal, and then you get
a close to being more of a cleaner than.
Speaker 28 (01:47:06):
Okay, you can come live at my house exactly. Coming
at my house would be a good team.
Speaker 9 (01:47:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
Hey, ahead of Christmas, Nadia, do you have a favorite
Christmas song and a favorite Christmas movie?
Speaker 28 (01:47:19):
My favorite Christmas song has always been Jingle Bell Rocks
because it's the real lively, upbeat one that's fund a
dancer with the kids. Favorite Christmas movie probably something that
I can watch with the kids, like The Grinch.
Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Yes, well do you go You're you're you're in keeping
with die Heindwood from Yesterday. He was a big fan
of the Grinch, like the animated Grinch as opposed to the.
Speaker 28 (01:47:42):
The animated one.
Speaker 3 (01:47:43):
The animated one, Yeah, not the.
Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Not the Jim Carrey one with the freaking face work.
Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Yeah. And have you got a message for New Zealand
for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 8 (01:47:54):
Nadia four?
Speaker 28 (01:47:58):
That's putting me on the spot.
Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Message it's going to be very meaningful and it's going
to no PreCure, bring back productivity to the country and
just the general spirit and bring everyone together. If you
could just rustle that up on the spot, that'd be amazing. Nadia.
Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Keep it real. Yeah, it's very key. We yeah, no, no, no,
that's good. Has this deeper meaning in that, yeah, just
keep it really, there's a lot of layers in there. Well, Nadia,
we've absolutely loved chatting with you. Have a fantastic Christmas
and hopefully all goes well on the farm over summer
(01:48:35):
and we'll catch up again soon.
Speaker 28 (01:48:37):
Thank you. Yeah, you go too, have a great one.
Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
Thank you very much. That is Nadia Lem part of
our great New Zealander of Christmas series. You're listening to
news talks there Be Good Afternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
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Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Hey, Tyler, have you read it?
Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
I've read most of them. Yes, that's good read. Could
put it down.
Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
As I said yesterday, obviously incredibly potentious to read from
my own book, but yeah, you know, it was written
by me to help myself, and it seems to have
been enjoyed by other people. Nadi Elim just said off
here that she read it and absolutely loved it.
Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
She did, she loved it, and her husband Carlos, is
halfway through it now.
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neuroscience and history of some emotions that were causing me problems,
including dissatisfaction with life, stress, worry, taking offense, and a
bunch of others. So what I was going to share
this bit of the book today, which is about dissatisfaction,
because it's a bit of a bummer. Over the holidays,
we are at the beach or somewhere, and we still
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don't feel happy as we should. We're on our little
bit of a holiday and we think we've only got
this much time off, and we're still hassling ourselves. Yep.
And one thing I discovered my book that it isn't
something wrong with us, that is just the state of
being human. And I talk to Professor William b Irvine
from Wright State University in Ohio, and he explained the
condition of being human and this might help people over
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the summer break. He said, you're wired never to be
satisfied because your ancestors who were satisfied didn't make it.
The guy who said I'm going to sit out here
on the savannah and appreciate what I have alionate that guy.
The ones who are constantly incrementally looking to improve this
situation did better. Our civilization has outgrown the need for
(01:50:57):
some over ring. We're wiring. The problem is that we
still have it. So we have to do our best
to learn to deal with our dissatisfaction, acknowledge those feelings
when they pop up, and do something about it. So
the suggestion in my book is, if you're feeling dissatisfied
on a holiday, because you know, it's not because there's
something wrong with you. It's because because you're human. And
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what you do about that is just to remind yourself
for every now and then that things could be worse,
that things are good. Negative visualization is a way you
can do that. So while you're on holiday, you can
imagine a terrible situation you could be in, like a
war zone or starving or back at work. And if
you do that, you trick your brain and to be
satisfied for a bit, but then you'll be dissatisfied again.
You'll be at the beach and you go, oh, it's
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the weather's not perfect, or the accommodation is not perfect.
We're just wanted to be dissatisfied. You just have to
visualize something terrible and you'll feel better.
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I love that. I feel better already. Nine nine two
just takes punishing to go in the draw. But what
a great show we've had today, I've got to.
Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Say, yeah, absolutely, it was fantastic talking to Nadia Limb.
It was great to hear everyone's business names. And we'll
be back tomorrow with the Great New Zealand as a
Christmas series with Jude Dobson.
Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
Yeah, fantastic New Zealander.
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Speaking of books, you wrote a fantastic book this year,
and anyway, we'll see you tomorrow Text Punishing to nine
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Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
Absolutely, we've got a few more copies of that book
to give away across the week. And just a reminder
on Friday, we are gonna have a topical tune. It's
going to be a special topical tune because it is Christmas,
and we also will have the New Zealander of the
Week and potentially even the New Zealander of the Year. Now,
(01:52:43):
Ryan will bring you up to date with all the
latest in the HIFU, which is a fantastic name, but
that is the half year economic fiscal Report, and he
also will be bringing you the latest on the earthquake
in Vanawatu. But thank you very much for joining us
again today. We'll do it all again tomorrow. Have a
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great afternoon and juke Dobson on the show tomorrow. Have
a good one.
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Speaker 26 (01:53:46):
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To go right in a one wom sleigh Okay, jingle dingles, Jingle.
Speaker 25 (01:54:06):
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Man's dangling jingle.
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That's jingle bell, jingle bell shine, jingle.
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Then dingle dingle, that's the jingle bell.
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That's the jangle bell.
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Mm hmm.
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