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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the first Matt and Tyler
Afternoon's Full Show podcast for the twentieth of January in
the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five. Thank you
so much for tuning in. Make sure you subscribe and
check to download and such. Had a great show today,
did we, Tyler.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Great day back, lovely day to be back. We chatted about,
oh my god, student exchanges they're kicked off. That was
almost two hours of student exchange stories and the stories
coming through there to live an year old that went
to Thailand.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, you know, there's some great stuff there. There's quite
a shocking Irish joke at the end of the show
that we couldn't go to that we have this.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Dumb in time. I think we let that fly, didn't we.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, the Irish. It's funny because when I was growing up,
there was lots of Irish jokes, but now the Irish
I'd never understood them because I didn't know anything about
Irish and I've got Irish ancestory. I don't know, you know,
there are lots of jokes about Irish people being dumb. Yeah,
by a ject your seat and the helicopter and that
kind of thing. Right, No, I don't think they are. No, No,
I don't know. I don't know if they're not all
right or they just don't make any sense because Irish
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people are so successful. They're everywhere across the world. In fact,
like a country that's small to have that bigger effect
on the planet.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, the stereotyping doesn't work anymore anyway. Anyway, he had
a great joke.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Bono is a bit of a dick, but most Irish
people I meet are amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
He's quite successful though, Bonnet.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
He's done all right for himself. O Bono. Yeah, on
a Bono box.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So, and we did talk about something else as well
than me sal GP whether you want it in New
Zealand or not. And that was an interesting chat. So
listen to the podcast. I hope you enjoy it. And yeah,
good to be back for another year. Had a great holiday,
all right then, Okay, seem busy that you go give
a taste gewek talking with you all afternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
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Speaker 3 (01:58):
Be well, good afternoon to you. I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Geto Mets good a, Tyler good A, Bryan Great to
be back on Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on
news talk zed be for anohing is.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, what a summer break while I had anyway feeling
very relaxed.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, I've got a lot of sun, spend a lot
of time in beautiful topour. You've got a lovely tan
by the way, Oh thank you. You're a bit red. Yeah,
did you not slip slop slap?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I don't tan very well. No, you know, I thought
and the Molbra sounds where it was pretty gray most
of the time, I thought it'd be all right, What
a deckadre, What an amateur?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I've gone beautiful olive brown. No, I got one
of the worst sun burdens of my life this year
on the back of my neck.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
It was.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It was a shocker. Actually, I got it when I
was teaching my son to drive. Oh right, we'll talk
about this later on. But anyway, I set up this
whole road cone sort of testing thing, young driver of
the Year thing to teach me how to drive. But
just did it in a single and got the worst
sunburn it was. It was terrible. I was thinking, I've
been on this planet a long time to not know,
not remember about the horrific state of our sun.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
That gets you though in a car because you think
you're kind of pretected, but you forget about the old
right arm that's kind of resting on the window so
as you can tell see the tan on my right
arm get better on my left arm, yes, because you know,
I forget about the old slip slop and slap in
the car.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It was a great break, but great to be back
as well.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, you climbed a mountain. It was impressive.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
See you're going to Yeah, that's right. So I decided
to carp a DM the New Year, so I didn't
go out on New Year's Eve, And I got up
crack of dawn on the first day of twenty twenty
five and climbed mount to Harder and looked out over
the beautiful topour and then texted everyone I know to
make them feel bad because I knew they'd be waking
up hungover.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It was a great picture.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Text of them carp a dim just to rub it in.
Absolutely beautiful but that sounds virtuous. But what had actually
happened as I've been to the Topol Races the day
before on and God so hard there that I was
in no state to nose state to celebrate New Years.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
On the first Yeah, there it is there.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It is folks, yeats, lovely people, total races. What a
good time that is.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
We spent a night in Topor. Actually I went to
the Thermal Reserve, you know that reserve. First time I've
been there. That's phenomenal. There's a week you know, hot
pools there that a free for everybody right next.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
To the river.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Great time in one spot. And I was up north
as well and out on the doing a bit of fishing. Yeah,
and also down in beautiful christ Church over the weekend
for the Black Clash. So I went all over the country.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
To God, what a summer. But as you say, Matt,
nice to be back, and you mentioned it before, but
after three o'clock we're going to talk about driving lessons
for your kids.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, that's right, because I'm teaching my son at the moment,
and I've got to say it's a lot easier than
it used to be. Boy, oh boy, back when you
know you had to use the clutch change gears. Hell starts.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Hell starts with the worst.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
In the garden. My dad told me driving you had
to run the choke. There was so much there was
so much more to do before an intersection. But yeah,
teaching it it's a real right of passage for you
as a parent and for the child to teach them
how to drive, and it's a real test of your relationship.
But I think I might be the greatest ever parent driver, teacher,
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driving instructor, parental driving instructor of all time.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's a bold statement. I hope you have something to
back matter.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I have pictures, I've got the receipts. I've done such
a great job and I've been building up for a
long time. Slightly terrified when I took them on the motorway.
There's a few roundabouts in Auckland that will test even
the most seasoned driver. It's looking at you, Royal Ach
and the one out in green lane. But no fantastic
And look, I'm very proud of my work and very
proud of him too.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Just on that, I think they should go easier on
young drivers in Auckland than they do elsewhere in the country.
Just because if you're trying to learn how to drive
on that freaking motorway, that is scary for me as
a season a season driver, I've got Well.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well let's talk about this. Yeah, you do it because
I believe you just get straight on there and you
don't ever tell them anything's hard. You go, We're going
on the motorway right now. You test them.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It's actually fun, it's got rainbow's ind you're going to
have a ball of a time.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Wait, let's go. You're not going to hide you from anything.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's going to be a good chet after three o'clock.
After two o'clock student exchanges. You may have seen the
story about the poor teen who was stuck at lax
after her student exchange program was canceled at the last minute.
But we want to take it a bit broader than that. Is,
have you sent your own child on a student exchange?
Heck of a thing for parents to do in twenty
twenty five, scary for a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, Well, were talking about this before when we tyler
the idea that off here. We were talking about you
know parents today, helicopter parents, they're dropping their kids off,
They're worried about everything. They're picking them up from school.
And yet some parents go, sweet as you can, fang
over to Texas and go to school over there for
a bit. And I think it's a fantastic thing. But
I reckon I'd be quite concerned as a parent to
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send my kids off. And in this situation, she got
stuck in an airpril for twenty hours, but she got
home all right. Yeah, but did you go on one?
Is a good idea. How do you get them going?
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Do you get to meet the I'm sure you get
to meet the family who were going to look after
your child. Initially. I mean you'd have to meet them
via zoom, but you know, hey, at least technology plays
a bit more of a part than the old days
where you just pick up the phone. Yeah, I'm looking
after your child for three months. We're good.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I've got mates that we're not exchange students and have
stayed friends with the people and the family for life.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And I've had some mates who had a German. A
German guy came over and became part of their family
and his visitors on and off for years afterwards.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Love that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So it's a pretty cool thing to do to see
the world but yeah, I mean you certainly have to
be a brave parent who are allowed to happen.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yep, that's the chat after two o'clock because right now
we want to have a chat about sale GP. Clearly
by a lot of accounts at wild Auckland audiences as
Auckland of course, hosted its first sale GP regatta at
the weekend. Around twenty five thousand fans expected across the
two days on the weekend, and this was after a
purpose built eight thousand seat grandstand was erected on the
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waterfront at Wynyard Point for the event. So there are
calls now to for Auckland Council to look at spending
a bit ratepayer money to future proof that competition going
forward over the next five years.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It's such a cool event. I mean, you know the
way I went to it in Littleton. I was in
christ Church at the Black Clash over the weekend, so
I couldn't go to it up here in Auckland, but
I went to the one in Littleton, and just the
way it's run, the organization, how they ship everything there,
how close to the audience it is. So I'd love
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to hear from people that went in little and went
in Auckland over the weekend. What their thoughts of it were.
The reviews have been very good. I'm just looking at
this article here from Bonnie Jensen. She was down there,
and the reviews are just phenomenal. This person here saying
it was brilliant.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I put on a voice rip it was brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
SALGP belongs in Auckland for sure. It's one of the
best events we've been to. Magic We were so close
to the water and I think it's the best event
I've ever been to. Twenty five thousand people went down
to it.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
There's no doubt. It is a phenomenal event. And like you,
I went to the event in Littleton when I lived
in Church and I heard all these people saying how
amazing it was, and the party zone was amazing and
everything was done, you know, incredibly well, and I thought, oh, yeah, right,
how good can it be?
Speaker 8 (09:19):
It was.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It was phenomenal the way that they'd put it on. Look,
there was some stops and starts with the dolphins. I mean,
we don't want to go down the dolphin track again.
We all know what happened with the dolphins. Hate dolphins.
Hate the Dolphins. That's why it's up here in Auckland
at the moment. But I know christ Church's got a
bit of a discount, didn't they. I think they got
a discount because Jirkland cocked it up last time.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So my understanding that SALEGB event Liveton costs christ Church
rapaid is one million to host, attracted six thousand visitors
and so allegedly spent three point three million, So the
cost includes four hundred thousand cash host city payment was
made to SALGP and another five hundred and nineteen seven
hundred and eighty six dollars accord. There's very accurate caording
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this article and various costs associated with it. But I
understand christ Hitch got a sixty percent discount on that
because they had to jump in and take it from
Warkland and Auckland couldn't do it. But it's not the
most expensive thing in terms of events to host into
a city, and it definitely showcases Auckland that means the
city of sales. So you want to have these kind
of events here a lot cheaper than running an America's Cup,
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and I want to say more exciting the America's Cup.
I agree, I agree you got, you got the you've
got eleven teams. You've got out there, you've got them.
They've got multiple teams heading the markers that pace together.
It's an incredible event. So I know everyone's you know,
you know, we've got Mayor Wayne Brown's doing it. Got
great job raining and expenditure. But this looks like one
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that is going to make back more than you put
into it.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, And I think that's the important point. I can
you get a return from rate payer investment, and that's
what this is. If it's a million bucks a rate
that payer money, A lot of people be saying, hey,
that's a drop in the bucket for an event like this.
And I actually agree with spending this million bucks because yes,
you can pay money, good money to get a ticket
and be right there at the front and the party zone,
which is a great place to be. But also, if
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you can't afford their ticket in Auckland, you can drive
around the harbor and watch wherever you want.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You stand on the beach, you'd watch it exactly.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
No, and attendees agreed, according to this article from Bonnie Jansen,
that the racing spectacles well worth the hefty price of
one hundred and seventy nine for a baseline grandstand ticket
or two hundred and nineteen for a premium seat. Twenty
five thousand people went. Some of Texas said, meanwhile, ninety
five thousand people went to Luke Holmes. That's true, but
weekend in Auckland it was.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, but just on that because if we're spending a
million bucks of rate payer money on something like sale GP,
is that a bit of a slippery slope where you've
got events like Luke Holmes where Auckland pay nothing for
that event, right, it's all covered by the tickets and
by the event organizers themselves. I mean, is it there's
something about sailing right that it needs that council funding
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or in the government funding to prop it up? Is
that a bit far for you?
Speaker 9 (12:02):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
What do you think on that though?
Speaker 10 (12:05):
Man?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, and if you attended it, I'd love to see
I'd love to hear from as well and your thoughts
on it.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
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Be news talks. There'd be nineteen past one. Great to
have your company, and we are talking about sale GP
in Auckland. Should the council be paying a million bucks
a year to support this event?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I think it'd be more than that, Tyler. I think
it'd be more than a million bucks. I think it
would be maybe two million bucks. Yeah, we should find
out exactly how much that would be.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It was a million dollars this time, wasn't it. And
that doesn't take into account some of that infrastructure, the
work that was done around the window able.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
To see Littleton got a discount. Littleton got a discount,
four hundred thousand cash to host, the city, five hundred
and nineteen thousand favarious other costs. So anyway, we'll find
out exactly what the number is. But it's not one
of those astronoms. I know that's a lot of money,
but it's not one of those astronomical fees that blows
your mind, like how much it costs to do a
put up, a pedestrian costing crossing cost less than a
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pedestrian crossing and ponsanbe Okay, you're getting absolutely roomed here. Geez, guys,
there's no beach where you can sit and watch our GP.
If you know I've won, please share it Tony and
says this texter. I've never seen anyone text.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
You did that very well.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Facts, please, guys. There are no beaches to watch the
race from in the inner harbor and in a city.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, but you can have a you can park up
and watch it from your car, I think is my point.
In years, the experience is not as good in the
party zone, but that's why you pay what was it,
one hundred and seventy nine dollars a ticket and up
to two hundred and nineteen.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Buck Like I'm looking at some kids. You got out
on some of you people got out on a picnic
tail of flob floating picnic table.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Good on those people.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Where's that that story? Here's a story around here. The
photo floating a group of you may not be able
to watch it from the beach, but a group floating
on a picnic table power by an outboard motors to
call themselves a boozy front row seat for the sale
GP and Auckland's harbor over the weekend. So good a
policeman on a jet ski motor after to harangue the
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seven young men there you go, just let them do it.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I mean, that sort of ingenuity is what we love
in New Zealand's This text I think sums up quite
a few of the text of it coming through on
nine two ninety two. Guys, no to our rates go
into a bunch of rich sailors. Our local roads aren't
even safe. Sale GP has enough to fund itself. Bunch
of rich entitled so and sos from Rochelle.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Really, so you shouldn't do things because there's rich people involved.
That seems like a very how would you say, bitter
and jealous way to look at the world. Spend a
dollar and get five back in economic development to Auckland,
says this text. So that's pretty good return, even at
two return, that's pretty good. How much did labor waste
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of our taxes for absolutely no return?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
That's a good question. And when we remember that debacle
or the kerfuffle about the America's Cup, and I think
from memory the government we're looking at putting in five
million bucks to retain the America's Cup in New Zealand,
and if you remember which year, please text it through.
But there was all sorts of controversy over five million bucks.
Now we're looking at what roughly and we're going to
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find out the exact cost, but two two million bucks.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Let's say we have any support out there. Have we
got a producer that could find us how much the
cost would be. It's actually going to Auckland. And by
the way, we're going to have a chat with Coss
Auckland exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Professor Mark Orham's in about ten minutes, who I think
will have some more solid numbers for us. But when
we look at those sort of figures, I can understand
slightly where Rochelle was coming from that we fund an
event like sale GP, why don't we fund something like
Luke Comb's or fund a myriad of other events.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Luke Combs doesn't cost us any money. Run No, Luke
Coumbs turns up and he extracts a bunch of money
and that pays for itself. Right, Yeah, yeah, I mean
it's a it's a kind of a slightly different thing
because you know, Luke Holmb's management's books the stadium and
they come and play.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
The infrastructure has already been paid for the stadiums, they're
ready to go, whereas the infrastructure for sailing and sal
GP is not up there to the same standard.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah yeah, Oh one.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. Call Elie. How
are you this afternoon?
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Hi, you know, I've just actually just got back from
the gym. I live on downtown Aupen City, and I
know everything was happening last weekend. Now I'd like to
know how come rate payers did not know about this
money being put into the event? Gup weekend?
Speaker 11 (16:46):
Was that?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Will we let you know? They let people know that
that money is going to come out of ratepayers.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Oh yeah, I mean it's an advance. When they agree
to it, they have to sign.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
It off in advance.
Speaker 10 (16:58):
That was not publicize well.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I mean, I mean, well, well, you could have easily
found it out if you if you wanted to look
for it. I mean, it wasn't the you know, it
was pretty. It's pretty. I mean, we can see exactly
how much it costs Littleton, as I said before, one
million to host, but attracted six thousand visitors.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
So if the government's going to be putting, like the
council is going to be putn't say you say it
was a roughly a million, right, I think it'd be.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
More than I think it'd be more than that. We're
trying to get to the bottom of exactly how much
it is because I think Littleton got a sixty percent discount.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I mean that seating wasn't cheap as you say. And
what about the average show blogs that wants to go
and have a look. You know, not everyone can afford
to buy a ticket at that price, so you're really
only getting a select amount of people to be able
to actually watch it at the event. Because that's seating
took up the entire skate park. Because my grandchildren come
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and they skate there, and we went there last weekend
and they have put up all their infrastructure for the seating.
It's oh actually it's taken up all the recreation area
for people.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, just for a weekend and twenty five thousand people
went along and had a great time. You can watch
it on television. You can park up in different places
and watch it. And the argument would be that it
brings money into you know, as this text had said before, like,
you know, people come to the city to watch it,
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so it brings money into the economy.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
But my gripers, why don't they subsidize it a little
bit for like ratepayers, so we can get a discount.
Speaker 12 (18:32):
On the ticket.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, I'll hear what you're saying, Ellie. And look, I
get the argument that if they're selling tickets at this
premium price and if they can't support themselves, then maybe
they shouldn't be getting taxpayer money for this event. But exactly,
but and here's the big buck, because I actually support
this million dollars plus going to this event. Is it
is something that people in Auckland, primarily Littleton was a
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bit harder, but in Auckland it's far easier to drive
up somewhere and to have a wee. Look, yes, you're
not going to be in the party zone, and it
is a lot of money for a lot of people,
but at least you can experience that for you know,
someplace in the harbor, not a peach, but someplace in
the harbor. And the money that it brings into Auckland,
it's got to have that return.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Well, looking at this these steps here the regat I
brought ten thousand visitor nights to the city with about
twenty five thousand people going, and it's said to have
brought in and you know, everyone always questions this. It's
said to boord in five point two million dollars.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Don't don't get me wrong.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
It's great for the city and it's good to bring
and it brings read and I understand that. But what
I'm saying is just, you know, make it a little
bit you know, easier for local people to go and
watch it. So we've sort of you know, just left out.
You know, if you can't afford it, well you can't go.
Speaker 13 (19:51):
To it, can you.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, well that's true of a lot of things.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
That is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, allie, thank you very much. Really, I appreciate your
point of view. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Love your point of view
if you're listening. Plenty of tempts coming through on nine
two ninety two as well. It is twenty seven past
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Calvin your thoughts on the sale GP. Should the Aukland
City Council pump some money into it? A couple of
million million, something like that to keep it back here.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
Well, if they do, it doesn't affect me at all,
because I'm here in the tron now. On Saturday, when
I got home from watching an athletic meeting here in
the tron, I saw the last one hour on TV
one plus one of the yacht racing and it was
pretty good. And then yesterday Sunday I tended to watch
it all, you know, the whole hour and a half
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whatever it was on. And sometime before the race started
in that I heard an interview on news Talk ZB
and the person was chatting away to the capitano skipper
of the yacht about the damage, because the Australian yacht
yacht had been damaged earlier on and they asked him
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what caused the damage and they said, oh, it was
a shark. Now, immediately I thought, my goodness, because about
a week or ten days ago I read in the
newspaper here in the tron that in New Zealand there
were about six different species of sharks which are all protected.
And immediately when they said about this possible shark or
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the shark hitting the Aussie yacht yesterday or whatever, I
immediately thought it would hang on there. We can't have
rich shotsmen racing around the Auckland Harbor. It's not a
laughing matter. This is a serious we can't have them.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Problem. I can see where you go. Either love dolphins,
but we hate sharks.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I think I think ach ding a shark. It's pretty funny,
like a falling Australian yacht hitting a shark. It's pretty funy.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Good luck to the boat in there's that scenario.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
Well it's still there. Yeah, yeah, Well, the reality is
that these six species of sharks are protected. They're either
they're going to be protected or not. That'll be the
law of the law of the land. To me, it
doesn't bother me because the only water I tend to
get under is the mighty white Shadow.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, it's not so many shots in Hamilton Lake, is there?
Speaker 9 (23:01):
Well no, not in the lake, but they could come
up the wake at a river from from the sea,
but I haven't seen any for a while. No, So
if it was a shark damage it, well that could
put a ki wash on any future yachting in the GP.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Thank thank you, thank you for that, Calvin. That was
an angle. I didn't think we're going to get the shot.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
How far can a shark get up the White Cutter River?
There's a committed chart.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Have you seen that Netflix movie Under Paris where the
sharks come up to send just before the sounds like
a good watch, just before a triathlon. It's a great
movie on Netflix.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
It's good.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It's called I think it's called Under Paris, Under Paris,
so that could Under Hamilton could be the sequel.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Love it. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call sale GP. It was a
hit by all accounts and orphaned over the weekend. Is
it worth rate payer money going back into it? And
after the headlines we're going to have a chat with
Professor Mark Orham's. He's a man who knows a lot
about sailing in New Zealand and internationally. We'll get his
thoughts about whether rate payer money is worth that investment.
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Speaker 3 (25:31):
Thank you very much. Raylean, Now we do have an update.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yeah, we hold off.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I've got an update on Calvin's shark and that. Okay,
you don't need to worry. That wasn't It wasn't a
shark attack in the Sale GP and have the weekend.
I think you're as safe from shark attacks and Hamilton
for now. But we'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Twist to that story. We'll get to that very shortly
because on the line is Professor Mark Ormsy is a
former New Zealand and World Champion sailor Team New Zealand member, author,
environmentalist and professor of Sport and Recreation at the Auckland
University of Technology. Very great to have you on this afternoon, Mark.
So when it comes to sale GP and the future
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sure of that event in Auckland, are you a supporter
of ratepayer money going into supporting this event going forward?
Speaker 16 (26:15):
Well, certainly as a sailor, a lifelong sailor and sailing fan,
I am. But when I put my sort of academic,
more analytical hat on, I think a key thing is
and this is true for any event, irrespective of whether
it's a sporting event or other kind of entertainment special event,
when you're using rate payers or taxpayers money. It needs
to be really clear what the return on that investment is,
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and we know that an event's portfolio can be a
really positive thing for our economy. Certainly, the vibe over
the weekend in Auckland I don't think we've experienced since
pre COVID times. And yeah, we've got to remember that
Auckland was lockdown longer than anywhere else in the country,
and especially the hospitality industry really needed the shot in
the arm that this last weekend gave us with sale GP,
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with the Luke Combs concert, with the Auckland FC having
a home game, So we had this real sense of
vibrancy and energy and positivity and that's hard to put
some numbers on, but it's certainly part of the picture
of making an investment in special events like this.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, and as this Texas says here, we went to
the viaduct and watched SALGP on the big screen and
could screen and could see the boats as they went by.
It was awesome and free. So there is an experience
that people in Auckland can have. How profitable is the
sale GP enterprise across the world because it's traveling everywhere
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through that whole year. You got eleven teams in there.
Are they making a lot of money and know a
lot of money's being pumped into it, But is it
a successful undertaking?
Speaker 16 (27:47):
Well, yeah, I guess it depends on your perspective. It's
successful in terms of its growth. I mean it started
off as an idea hatched by Russell Coots and Larry
Allison off the back of the loss of the America's
Cup to New Zealand and twenty sixteen of coming up
with an alternative professional sailing circuit that in many ways
they looked at other successful models like Moto GP, Formula one,
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other professional sporting franchises, and went ahead and said, with
Larry Ellison's significant backing, let's give this five years and
see if we can turn it into a commercially viable
sports entertainment product. Now they're well on the way to
achieving that, and that's out of all of the teams
that they have, and remembering they've added teams over time,
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all but two of them are independently funded. They're numbers
internationally in terms of the viewership and therefore attracting sponsors
like Rolex we've seen on the Weekend and others and
other events as really growing, so they're doing the work
needed to create something that's commercially successful longer term. I
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think they're on the verge of that, but it has
really required a long term and substantive investment by Larry
Ellison to get to this point.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Is it easier to cater for in terms of setting
up from ratepayer funding and the event itself than the
likes of America's Cup. Clearly there's been a lot of
controversy over the hosting and not hosting of America's Cup
in Auckland, But for this event in particular, sale GP,
is this a lot easier to I suppose set up
as a long term event.
Speaker 16 (29:23):
I think it's easier in the sense that it's a
lot more regular. I'm one of the big challenges with
the America's Cup is that it only happens every three
or four years and for a couple of weeks, right,
So that from a commercial sponsorship point of view is
not a particularly attractive proposition, whereas sale GP now is
a year long, multi city, multi event franchise where if
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you buy in as a sponsor, you're guarantee to not
only get the exposure that you're looking for from that investment.
On a long term basis, you've also got multiple events
where you can leverridge off with your clients and your
supporters and your staff as well. So it's not just
about promotion of your brand, it's all the other things
that you can leverridge off it. So the sale GP
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from a commercial perspective, is a far more viable proposition
than the America's Cup that only happens every three or
four years and there's no guarantee of where it's going
to go depending on who wins it the next time.
So that's the beauty about the sale GP product. I
think it's just a more compelling commercial proposition for sponsors
and host cities, which.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Make Orans a ut sailing professor. So yeah, as you say,
is Auckland, Sydney. This year, the SALGP Los Angeles, San Francisco,
They're going to Brazil, they go to New York, They're
go to the UK, all over over the shop Geneva,
they are in the Middle East. It's a global thing.
It's happening all year that there's a huge excitement level.
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There's eleven teams. Is it sucking the life out of
the America's Cup.
Speaker 16 (30:53):
Yeah, that's a really good question, isn't it. I mean,
the people would say it, including Sir Russell Coots is
the CE of sal GP, says well, it's an alternative
and not a competitor to the America's Cup. But I
think in reality there is a competition going on for
what is the pre eminent competitive sailing product out there globally.
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The thing that sale GP doesn't have is the one
hundred and eighty year history that the America's Cup has.
But obviously it's a new product sale GP. But it's
growing in its success and you have to start somewhere,
and I from my perspective, I just see the growth.
I mean, I understand the viewership now has grown to
something like over two hundred and twenty million viewers internationally.
(31:38):
Now that's substantive for what is really a niche sport.
So you know, the vast majority of those viewers are
not sailings. The people who are entertained by what they're seeing,
the splash and the crash, the sort of the competition
where you don't know who's going to win from one
competition to the next, and that's really what sporting entertainment
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in the global marketplace is all about now. So sale
GPS making great inroads. You can never replace the it's
a little bit analogous quite frankly to the RAND for shield. Right,
you can't replace that history in rugby. But but the
super rugby kind of product arguably has become a more
high profile competitive professional rugby event than the ran fairly shield.
(32:21):
So perhaps there's an analogy there for where things might
go sal GP versus the America's Cup.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Oh, thank you so much for your time. Mark Aram's
a ut sailing professor. And look, we've got to go
back to the shark situation before Calvin was worried about
rare sharks and pique thee. Calvin has the story completely
wrong since the text of the boat that hit a
shark was a moth class sailing in the World Champs
off Funger poor, this is this is this person. We've
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also heard that there was an Australia, but anyway, there
was no There was no sale GP boats fullitting sharks
in the in the harbor.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, so we don't have to worry about that, and
certainly no sharks going up the White Cutou River as
far as I know anyway. Yeah, that dirty dolphin down, sir,
thank you very much, by the way, Calvin for that information.
And even though it was terribly wrong. And so you've
heard what Mark Rooms had to say, Sailing professor, and
he made the point there that as long as you
get the revenue back and the investment back into Auckland City,
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and I think for a million dollars or just over
a million bucks plus. And I know you can argue
about how many people are staying in hotels and ten
thousand visitor nights, etc. Et cetera, et cetera, but surely
you're getting that million bucks back.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Oh yeah, in the America's Cup was well over a
hundred million. Yeah, I think you're looking potentially two one
hundred million. But as this Texas says on nine two
nine two ten, as they're claiming ten thousand visitor knights,
they'd like to see the receipts on that, because.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
They do make big claims like that, it's hard to prove. Yeah,
what do they have someone at the door saying are
you here for sale? GP? Okay, that's one.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Are you sure this isn't a staycation from Mount Roscool?
You're definitely from out of town?
Speaker 11 (33:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Had one hundred eighty ten eighty as the number to call.
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Speaker 3 (34:17):
Afternoon twelve minutes to two. We're talking about the sale
GP in the future of it in Auckland City. It's
going to take some investment from the council through rate
pay money.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well, Auckland Unlimited committed one million to host this weekend's
sale GP Reghetta according to this article here, and it
claims ten thousand visitor nights and to twenty five thousand
people went down there and a forecast a return of
five point two million in GDP contribution. So we're asking
the question, do you think rate payer money should go
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towards this kind of thing?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yep, Jimmy, you went along. How was it?
Speaker 12 (34:51):
Oh, mate, Stanie? I got two parts. I don't know
about the financial side, mate, I'm not one of those bottoms.
But the place was just puzzling now there and we
were big screens. The boats are right in front there.
Even if you've got no money. It was a wonderful day. Yeah,
I took my thirteen year old daughter. We're in the
stands and absolutely wonderful show. I mean it's not much
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different than taking my boy with the All Blacks. I
mean it costs a bit of money, but just the
shit enjoyment and the professionalism and how it went, it
was wonderful.
Speaker 14 (35:25):
You know.
Speaker 12 (35:26):
It was really probably one of the top experiences the
last twelve months from me at least. So there's also
a sailing will get her on their encouraging children to sail,
and they had some kids on the stage and the
course that's relatable and my daughter was loving it. So
there was an IRS i think it was, and they
had kids there from all over New Zealand and the
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top couple got to get on the stage and we're
on TV and we're just an amazing event. And as
he's got kids that got any kind of interesting soiling
at all, they would have loved it. My little daughter
was tapping her legs and shouting, made the flags and
shared the greatest time. And as a father, you know, yeah,
it was expensive, yep, by god, she had a great
time and can we go again next year there. Yeah, yeah,
(36:12):
well if they come back, we'll go. And there was
a highlight, you know, she said, look that there's my
birthday prison dad. If you want that's all good swear
to you might have to be. But she loved it
that much. And they they were saying these guys from
RS the kids sailing that they came across for. They
were saying that they had Tom the American skipper was
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there talking the kids and love Makay the key we female.
I thought she was there. And afterwards they had they
were signing autographs for all the kids and then the
kids didn't realize that the wine was in the middle
of the GP and on TV and all that. And
then afterwards they had a woman Inspire thing where they
had the honing female skipper from Brazil something like my team.
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She was there having to talk to the kids and
you know, trying to encourage girls into it was so professional,
so well run. Look, I don't know how the financial
side sticks up, but as a as an event, I'm
a long time right and seeing mate, but I'd say
it was good of going to the All Blacks on
my son.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
It was just that's awesome, professional well run.
Speaker 12 (37:18):
It was just gold.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
So how old's your daughter? Howl's your daughter? Jimmy thirteen? Right,
and she loved it. So did you buy did you
buy the stand seats? But that's about one hundred and
eighty bucks eat, is that right?
Speaker 12 (37:29):
And yeah, it was about one hundred and hundred each
year worth every seat, mate. I mean, you know we're
not rich people and get to save my money. But yeah,
it's something my daughter will never forget.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
She'll remember that for those moments when you take your
kids to sporting events, especially novel ones that they you
know they're not going to see a lot. They remember.
I remember being taken to sporting events when I was
a kid, and you remember them for you for your
whole life. That that that's fantas that's fantastic. Yeah, And
they do it so well, to say GP, because they
ship everything over so that village, they build the media thing,
(38:00):
they stands, everything, they've honed that around the world and
so they ship it and they rebuild it there so
they just know what's the perfect experience and how good
is it when those boats are racing straight towards the
stands Jimmy.
Speaker 12 (38:12):
And yeah, and it was a bit bit loose and
you know, I got a some big splash down and
it's terrify.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It's actually scary to watch when when I'm in Littleton,
I was watching it going and you're watching it and
it is exhilarating. You cannot believe what's happening in front
of you. It's so incredibly awesome to watch. Irrespective, as
you say, Jimmy, of the rate pass situation or whatever
it takes to get into Auckland, or whether we agree
with it or not, the actual product is phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, absolutely, Jimmy. Thank you very much. Mate. We've got
to take a break, but awesome to have you on.
Go well, Jimmy, it is seven minutes to two beck
very shortly. You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Oh, one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call
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Speaker 3 (39:07):
News, DOORGSB five too. We're talking about sale GP and
or cland is it worth the investment from rate payer
money divided on the text machine or.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
The sex it says high. The answer is no, Council
shouldn't be friending up money. The companies are wealthy enough
to pay their own way hosting the event in any city.
The tickets were very expensive, seats were small and cramped.
I've said in those seats are pretty comfortable. Racing was okay,
but it's a short timeframe that's actually on. Blah blah
blah blah. You get it, okay, thanks your text. Yeah,
they can afford it, but they can also go to
(39:37):
other cities. They can just not come to New Zealand.
So it's one of those things we decide whether we
want to have it or not. They will just go
somewhere else if we don't want to and then have it.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
And aside from the financial benefit, and this one's hard
to measure, but clearly the well being benefit is a thing.
I know that sounds a bit woo woo and how
do you measure that? But clearly it's there when you've
got to love your city. We've got we're in a
country that's divided. We're a country where everyone's having a
going at each other. We've become the most wingingest nation
on planet Earth where I think anytime we can come
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together and celebrate and see how beauty for our city
is and our country is, and people come together and
celebrate the excellence that we clearly show in sailing.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And this text here sums it up for me. We
traveled up to Auckland from Topor, spent the weekend at
the Viada Act eight and drunk at the restaurants. The
whole place was buzzing. It was so exciting. We had
a fantastic time.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
There we go, and what a good place to leave it.
Thank you very much for your teach some phone calls
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Speaker 3 (40:49):
Good afternoon, welcome back. Great to be back. Mets love
the last hour about sale GP. But we are going
to move forward.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah, we certainly are, and we're going to look at this.
You might have seen the story. It was interesting A
teen exchange student flying home from the United States was
left stranded at Los Angeles Airport for thirty hours after
Aline stuff with how to hope voucher because she was
too young to book and alone and boy, this sounds
rough for the young young the young lady and kept
her from its lounge because she was too young to
(41:17):
be left alone around alcohol. That's one of those crazy,
ridiculous things where you know you have alcohol laws to
try and protect people, but then you leave someone out
and out and about in a scary airport because you
can't be near alcohol. Ridiculous obviously, But we want to
talk about the wider thing on student exchange. Student exchange
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things is a huge thing when you go over when
you're when you're a kid, between about fifteen and eighteen,
I think is the normal age group that you that
you'll go over and you'll spend a year at a
school in another country. Maybe it's the United States of America.
You know, I'm looking at one that will send you
to Norway, you can go to Japan, France, you go
to all kinds of places and having an experience when
when you're a kid. I'd like to we'd like to
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hear from people that have done it, and parents that
are thinking about seeing their kids or have had said
they've sent their kids there, what it's like, Because I mean,
you've got the situation our kids overseas, there's still a child,
they're under eighteen and they're off in the world by themselves.
That takes quite a brave In these times of helicopter
pearances that are driving their kids to school and packing
them up and moody coddling them. The coddling of the
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New Zealand child is rampant. There are still parents that
just go, I'm going to let my kid and good
on them. I think, go over and spend a year
in another country because that person is going to be
have a much wider mind for doing it that young
than go. So you look at it. If you go
to one of these sites where they sell these opportunities
and organize them, are you dreaming of going on exchange
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here in the USA? As a high school student in
the USA, you quickly realize that much of what you've
seen in the movies is actually true. You will experience
high school spirit, cheerleaders, your experience cheerleaders, and the iconic
yellow school buses. So I mean it does seem like
a dream. And I know friends of mine have spent years,
(43:04):
you know, exchange years when they're at school in the
States and about it. Yes, friend of mine ended up
shooting guns out of the side of a pickup truck
in Texas.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
That's what you do in Texas, apparently.
Speaker 7 (43:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I had a friend that had an exchange here in Japan,
lent the language and was basically became a member of
that family for the rest of his life. And you
go over and work over there all the time, spoke
flowing Japanese and started a company back here where he
brought people over Japan from Japan to do it. So
it's an incredible thing to do.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I love the idea of it. And as you say,
I mean the amount of experience that sixteen seventeen year
old would get by doing that, and effectively they go
to school, right, So if you hook up with a
family in Texas, then you go to that child's school,
you get incorporated into the community. I mean, man, you
cannot get a better experience than that for a seventeen
year old. But pick to your point, that's gutsy for appearance, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Especially gets slightly better, especially since the parents of today
are absolute chickens and absolutely terrified of their precious little children.
So I just wonder if less people are doing it,
because you know, even me, I'm thinking, boy oh boy,
I'd love my kid to have that experience, but it
will be a lot for me to just sign off.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah kah. Well, even this situation this team ended up
in and granted she was stranded at LAX for thirty
hours and the airline staff cock fed up well and truly,
but that's an experience she's taken away. I mean, talk
about building resilience. You don't get better than being stranded
in an airport for thirty hours and been let down
by an airport staff to say, hey, I've grown as
a person.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
So here you go. Canada. According to this site, twenty
five thousand dollars to send your kids to Canada for
a year. The US is twenty thousand, Austria fifteen thousand,
one way Austria, Sarch, Denmark seventeen thousand, Finland seventeen thousand, France,
twenty one thousand, Germany seventeen thousand, Ireland that'd be cool, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Spain.
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These are all the places you can send your kids, Sweden, Switzerland, UK,
Costa Rica, Argentina, China, Japan, Australia.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, this might be slightly different, but a lot of
Maves sisters did the aor peer. One went to France.
I believe she might have been seventeen or eighteen and
went to be the aor peer for a particular family.
Then she learned the language, she looked after the children,
and then got to spend a bit of time in France,
hopefully traveling around with the family in question.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
My friend got an all peer and it was the
or peer. I say that way, did you say it
is the right enough pe or pier or pier? I
think it's a anyway. And was the worst person in
the world, not the worst person with the most useless
person in the world. She was from France and he
ended up just getting an extra kid. She crashed the
car on the first day. She was out partying a
lot of the time, and he just send up instead
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of solving his problem with his two children, he ended
up getting an extra kid a babysitter.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
He needed the babysit. Yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
If you've sent your child away on a student exchange
if you've done a student exchange yourself, or indeed, the
flip side of the coin is you've taken on a
student here in New Zealand. Love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Here we go this Texas says you guys are dumbbos.
Not all parents of chickens. I'm happy for my kid
to do an overseas experience. Now you're a dumbo and
a chicken. Text day, Sam, you're a dumbo in a chicken.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Give us a call. Wait one hundred eighty ten eighty.
Oh it's oh pier, oh pier, I said, Oh, because
clearly I don't speak French.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Hint, No, hang on a minute, No, Au, it's au, yeah,
but it's pronounced though. Okay, okay, Sam, you've got something.
We are dumb. It's O U p A I r YEA.
Yeah we are. You're right.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
We are dumbos. We're dumbo's. But not for the reason
that you thought.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty student exchanges? Are
they still a thing in twenty twenty five? And if
you're a parent, did you feel a bit nervous sending
your child away to Europe or Texas or wherever they
may have done their student exchange.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, you're all a bunch of chickens your parents out
there in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Nineteen nine two is the text number thirteen bus two.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor afternoons
with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into this
thing special call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty news
Talk said.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Be good afternoon, sixteen past two. We're talking about student exchanges.
In twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
After teen exchange student flying home from the Estates was
left stranded at Los Angeles Airport for thirty hours. Undoubtedly,
you know, if everything goes right, incredible for a kid's character,
but takes a lot of guts from the parents to
send them. We'd love to hear your experiences as a
parent or an exchange student. This person says, yere till
I did France in ninety ninety six, seventh form year.
More details on that please, Apart from just that information,
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so come back to US eight hundred and eighteen eighty
here text this is this is impressive. Our seventeen year
old legally blind son went to Rome for three months
on a student exchange. His host family were awesome, nothing
was a problem and included him in all their family
exmus and travel plans. He went back last year for
a visit with them while he spent four months traveling
in Europe and Asia. He calls them his other family that.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
That's a nutshell, isn't it. Yeah, that is certainly bold
and bro good on them, But man, that too and
doubt well didn't it. I'd love to hear about the
process as well. So when it comes to meeting the
family that is going to take in your child, how
does that work? I take it you do a few
zoom meetings or do you just for the initial phone
call and say, yep, you sound like a nice family.
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Let's roll with it.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Maybe helicopter parents would fly over and meet the family.
I don't know. I mean, it's pretty it's pretty expensive,
isn't it already?
Speaker 17 (48:31):
You know?
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Was it twenty five k for a student exchange in Canada,
wasn't he Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Twenty five k in the Canada, in twenty thousand in
the United States. Yeah, take money very cheap to go
to Denmark. If you're into that.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Susie,
how are you this afternoon?
Speaker 16 (48:47):
I'm good?
Speaker 13 (48:48):
Thanks, Holly?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Ye good.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Now have you done an exchange program yourself or your children?
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Here?
Speaker 5 (48:52):
I have?
Speaker 13 (48:53):
Oh you did nineteen ninety three? I did one?
Speaker 4 (48:56):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Where'd you go?
Speaker 13 (48:58):
I went to Canada for twelve months?
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Oh what part of Canada?
Speaker 13 (49:01):
The Sketchulan?
Speaker 12 (49:02):
Have you ever heard of it?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I have, but I don't know where it is?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Yeah, said somewhere in the middle cold.
Speaker 13 (49:08):
Yep, quite near the middle. It was minus forty five
degrees the day I arrived.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
You've got to be careful that you don't let the
cat out if you're an exchange student, because that cat
will end up a catsicle. I understand.
Speaker 7 (49:20):
So how was I left?
Speaker 13 (49:23):
In January? And it was obviously a New Zealand day
And it was my forty five when I arrived, and
you just get put with another family. I didn't know
how I was meeting And oh my god, we're still mates.
I've still got all my Canadian friends. Oh wow, just
the fixt year of my life.
Speaker 18 (49:38):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
And so did what? How did you get the idea
to go? Where did it come from? Where did the
motivation to go come from?
Speaker 13 (49:44):
Well, I'm really really close to my parents, really great parents.
But they also had traveled a lot in the younger years,
so they had always encouraged me, taken me on trips
and done stuff. And I just thought, oh, my goodness,
this would be the best learning curve for me to
step outside and to go and do my own bit
of traveling.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
And back then it would the world was a bit
more of a mysterious place, wasn't it. You were there's
no where you can can't do zoom calls, you know, evens.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, yeah, once a month.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
And we did you send letters?
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Did you write letters?
Speaker 13 (50:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 17 (50:18):
Yeah, we did it.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (50:20):
And we made these things called tape letters where you
talked onto a tape and put the tape in them.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
So your parents, and you said, you say, you're really
really close to your parents, But they'd done it themselves
so that they weren't so scared about it.
Speaker 13 (50:32):
They haven't kind of done it, but they've done plenty
of traveling when they'd met, and and so therefore they
were right behind encouraging me. And and suddenly and asked
us what my daughter's doing it right now?
Speaker 14 (50:42):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Wow, wow, where she gone?
Speaker 13 (50:44):
And and so I left, I never did save a
form in New Zealand and she left halfway through seventh
or you know, a year setting and she's doing it
now too, and she is having the time of her life.
And I just think it sets you up more life like,
it just gives you a lot of resilience.
Speaker 10 (51:00):
Yeah, and we worry about it.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah where did she go?
Speaker 17 (51:05):
So?
Speaker 4 (51:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Right, like what London or well where?
Speaker 7 (51:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
No, North, North, you'd want to go. You'd want to
go north and experiences. Yeah, because teenagers, and we all
know this, as they get very cynical, they think they
know everything. They get massive Dona Krueger around fifteen. They've
been listening to their parents their whole life, and then
suddenly they know everything. So it's it's an amazing thing
for them to go and see the rest of the
world and realize that where they are is not the
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whole end of everything, and they don't understand everything. Was
that your experience?
Speaker 13 (51:36):
And I just think it gives you resilience because you're
put in situations where you're adjusting, you're excepting, you're learning,
you're making new friends, you're going to a new doctor
for a doctor's appointment, you're setting up a bank account
in another country. You're really making your own way, and
those are skills that you can't get any other way
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for life.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
So how did you end up in Saskatchewan? Was there
kind of a list of places that you could go
or families that you could exchange within?
Speaker 16 (52:07):
Ye?
Speaker 13 (52:07):
And I never back myself with a new language, so
I always thought if I went English speaking, that would
be a better option. But I also obviously met other students.
So I've still got one of my best friends in
Sweden and my daughter's about to go and travel the
meat lot with her, you know, thirty years on, Yeah, wow,
twenty five years on.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, that's pretty that's that's very cool.
Speaker 13 (52:30):
And only that I was with in Canada. We're still
good friends. I had been out to stay last year.
And obviously generations are coming down, so you know their
kids as well. You know, we just you just create
a web of people in context for your life.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
And you said it was the best year of your life.
So you stand by that out of all the years
in your life, that was the best one.
Speaker 13 (52:50):
Well, I probably do, because it was the one that
sets you up for all the others. So when there's
other hard suss that's gone on, in life, I've always
looked back and thought, Jesus, you can get through that,
You can get through that, you can get through anything.
Speaker 6 (53:01):
You know.
Speaker 13 (53:01):
It's a really good foundation for also loving New Zealand,
because when you go and see the rest of the world,
you think, oh, my goodness, were luckly this here's what
we've got. But it's also made me think that any
time in life, you could go and do this again.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
The thing about what you could yeah, the thing about
you when you went though is you know, I was
talking to this a friend recently. When you went used
to go overseas, what you'd have to do is organized
to meet someone at a time and you'd arrive at
the airport or wherever, and if they weren't there, you
were lost. There was no cell phones, there was no
way to work it out, so there was a huge
amount of trust going over there. Did the family pick
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you up at the airport when you arrived?
Speaker 13 (53:37):
Yep, yep, my dad, yep. I had also suggested that
I might not have any animals, but I got two dogs,
four cats, a rabbit.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
And a bird.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Hey what over there?
Speaker 7 (53:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (53:49):
What do you mean you adopted the animals? When you're
over there?
Speaker 17 (53:51):
No like they were in the family.
Speaker 13 (53:53):
So I had assisted a family that had I'm not
an animal.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Lover, right, so November, that would be hugely irresponsible to
go over there for a year and adopt five animals
and abandoned them. Oh, thank you so much for you call, Susie. Yeah,
all good and all the best of your daughter over there.
I hope, she says, a great time.
Speaker 13 (54:14):
I worry about her now, but you can worry about
your kid down the road and.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
One hundred percent yes, that's right.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
It doesn't make it easier now, Susie. With the technology
is that if you want to get in touch with
your daughter, it is a lot easier than it was
in the nineties.
Speaker 13 (54:28):
Oh my goodness, it's amazing. I mean we have video zones,
don't We can see where she's living, I can see
what she's got, I can meet her friends, I can
meet the people that are around here. It is so cold,
it is just amazing.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Actually thought, I've got to ask this question. Were there
any hairy moments and did you misbehave what was the
partying like and did you get yourself in any bad situations?
Speaker 13 (54:48):
No, you can always remove yourself from those ones. I
mean there are definitely are lots of learning curves, but
it's shipping aside from them, isn't it. It's making those goods,
it's making those good decisions.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah, my mate ended up getting drunk and driving around
and I pick up, as I was saying before, shooting
people at people in Texas.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
You know, none of that, none of that. They were
more polite. All right, all right, thank you.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
So much for your call. This text didn't have a
great time. I went to South Africa for half a
year half of year twelve, but was denied entry and
deported forty five minutes later due to a visa era
made by the schools and the travel agent. Threatened with
four days in jail and getting one phone call, oh
my goodness to my parents. I got on a flight
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forty five minutes after landing eighty four hours travel to
get back home, having to wait till everyone got off
the planes. It stops like criminals until New Zealand High
High Commission took me out for Yeah, there is the
story that sort of slightly dispared, but you know, there's
definitely a there's definitely a risky, risky side to it.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
That would build character. Tho wouldn't they as a sixteen
year old being threatened with four days jail in South
Africa and even the New Zealand the High Commission to
come in. I'll get them out on a on a
mercy flight.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
I'd be interested to know how much this person traveled
in later life after that.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty student exchanges?
Have you done one? Have you seen your child on one?
This is on the back of a fourteen who was
stranded in lax but certainly they are still incredibly popular
around the world. And if you've taken on a student
here in New Zealand, love to hear from you as well.
Nine two ninety two is the text number. It's bang
on twenty five past two.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
We're talking about student exchange systems, high school students going
overseas for an experience. I was telling that story before,
but the text machine failed me, or my ability to
control the text machine actually failed me. About Neck who
went to South Africa for a half year but was
denied entry and was deported forty five minutes later. Was
threatened with jail, a bunch of stuff, but good news.
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He went back that I couldn't get to the end
of the story, which was the best part of the story.
The High Commission sorted him out and he went back
to week later.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yeah, so imagine that. Yeah, I mean, you go through
all of that, as you say, threatened with jail, mercy flights,
and then as a sixteen year old back then say nah,
it's all good, I'll go back.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
See, that's the thing that builds the term builds character
and resilience. You have to test them and that's not
what we do. We're not doing that with our kids
enough are We.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
Throw them in the deep end effectively and see what happens. Yeah,
I mean, like Susie when she caught up before, and
you're quite right, when she turned up at the airport.
If the family aren't there, what do you do at
that point? You make a click call back to mom
and dad, say I'm in New Zealand. What am I
going to do unless that family's there. You're kind of stuff,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:42):
Well, I remember I was in Europe once back in
the day and I was organized to meet someone. Yeah,
and we'd organized a month out and when I arrived,
he wasn't there, and there was no this was this
was a long time ago. There wasn't a cell phone. Yeah,
so you're like, what do I do here?
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Just carry on your life and over for the beach.
You'll you'll catch up with them. Movie a letter exactly.
We're going to pick this back up after the headlines.
I eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call if if you want to see him
throw a teacher as well. Nine two niney two.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, and also of course if you've had someone's stay,
if you've because it's got to go the other way, right, Yeah.
And I've his friends that have had exchange students stay
with them and had fantastic times and they've become pretty
much one of the family.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (58:21):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
of coll headlines with railing coming up. It's twenty nine
past two.
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Speaker 3 (59:52):
Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we are talking about
student exchangers. Have you seen your child on a student
exchange or indeed, have you taken on students here in
New Zealand? Plenty of great texts coming through on nine
to nine. Two guys, my next door name, but went
to the USA on a student exchange at seventeen for
a year, came back with tattoos? What's a drug?
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Came back with it? Came back with a drug addict?
Or came back with a drug addiction?
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Yeah, well, who knows when you go to the USA,
particularly Texas.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
If you return with tattoos and you bring a drug
addict back see unnecessary build's character.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
I went one hundred eighty eighty. Love to hear from you, Stu.
Now you've taken on quite a few exchange students.
Speaker 10 (01:00:34):
Yeah, Hi, how are you coming guys?
Speaker 16 (01:00:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Good, good? So how did you get into the exchange
student game? If you will?
Speaker 10 (01:00:42):
Well, we just thought it was an interesting experience. We've
got a son only child, so we thought it was
a good way of sort of introducing a few different
I just meet different people in a different environment. We
thought it would be quite positive. Reality was, it was
quite a mixed bag. We've had four um and four
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of them only one of them was what redid put
in and become part family. One of them was really
didn't fit in. One of them maybe shouldn't have even come.
It was kind of like his parents had told him
he had to go and did. And one of them
was just a local rogue. He was easy going, likable American,
but really was was here for a good time and
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here for a few months.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
He was no where where? Where did they come from?
Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Scoop?
Speaker 10 (01:01:31):
Two from Germany, one from Italy and one from Chile?
Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
And yeah, and did you did did you say you
had a son? Is that right? You've got one son?
Speaker 13 (01:01:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Yeah? And so did he? Did he strike up friendships?
Did you say any strike up friendships with one of them?
Or how was that? How was the experience for him?
Speaker 10 (01:01:48):
Really only had one? Yeah he was. Yeah, he's pretty
much sussed people, suss people out pretty quickly.
Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:01:56):
And you know the one that we've got a good
relationship with, he pitt and well with us all and
and you know he was welcomed into my son's friends group.
They were all happy. Everyone could get on well with everyone.
Into grated joined the local joined the social basketball club locally,
so he sort of played. He he really made the
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most of his time here, so he got involved in
the community. He also got involved in the in the
international with the international student buts and pieces, but he
really did integrate himself. All the others just lived in
their own bubble, probably too. One of them in particular
was particularly self and self entitled and had really no
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really just didn't didn't even try to integrate or be
part of our family. And and yeah, he was supposed
to sill be with us now up until April, but
his decision before Christmas was to go. He wanted to
go to someone's another host family, and in Finnis it
was probably the right course. He really wasn't fitting in
with us in the slightest That wasn't particularly comfortable situation
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for anyone.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
So so how does it all Workstu? Did did they you?
You put your profile on a particular didn't exchange website.
Then these kids come to you and say, hey, we're
interested in living with you and being part of that program,
or does it work the other way?
Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
You get to pick.
Speaker 10 (01:03:17):
It was all done through a school, so we put
a hand up and fill about going a whole lot
of process. You go through application forms and police fitting
and checks, and then they come and the house and
and and you know, they come and do a site
visit and make sure everyone in the happy with the situation.
And yeah, and then we were. And then they would
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come to us the school and then come to us
with a list, a short list of people they think
might fits or who they they're looking for a home
home for, and we would read up read their profile
and and try and try your best to select the
right But you think it's the right person, but you
can't tell really realistically, You really can't tell until you
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actually until they land on the ground and are living
living with you.
Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
And so, how does it work? Fine, how does it
work financially? Because I'm looking at these sites now and
the people that are doing it pay quite a lot
of money to be involved. Does that any of that
money go to the family for you know, feeding and housing.
Speaker 10 (01:04:17):
It wasn't bad, It wasn't bad. It was worthwhile. But yeah,
we won't We probably won't do it again. My son's
last year at school, when he's really focused on school.
We don't really want another just any disruption?
Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Language? And issue because did you have English speakers coming?
You said you had two from Germany and one from Chile.
Does that isolate them a little bit?
Speaker 18 (01:04:44):
Yeah, chill.
Speaker 10 (01:04:44):
The Chilli one was hard. He understood more than he did.
We definitely know he understood more English than he would
let on, but his spoken English wasn't the best. We
had the situations where what he would tell the school
and what he would tell his parents and what he
would tell us was three different things, right, but none
of us were stupid, So he was trying to play
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everyone off against each other and that that just doesn't
work particularly well. But you know, we we get that.
We definitely know he understood more than he would.
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Have let on.
Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
What's different and and and and the one?
Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
So you continue?
Speaker 10 (01:05:20):
So yeah, tell me one was he was come from
a very wealthy family. He was he was likable, come
a like all row he was. He was very personable,
He was very likable. He very much been to the
three months here at a bubble with the will the
international students and the socialized for them, didn't really try
to fit an integrate into New Zealand. He was only
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here for a short period, so I guess that really
nuts and bolts it. It's a real mixed bag. Fourth one,
the third one was amazing, he said, was for six
months and he's he's one that has kept in contact
and and yeah, touch his face and yeah, and he
was great.
Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Yeah, it is it the longest that would stay with you.
Six months? It sounds like quite a long.
Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Time we had.
Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
We had.
Speaker 10 (01:06:10):
We had two of them for six months, and I
think there is at times you do have some that do.
I'm aware of one or so that one or two
that spent two years living doing the last two years
of schooling. Some of them are only a year, some
of the year, some of the three months, some of
the six months. It seems to be just a bit
of a mixed bag really depending on what they're after
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or what their appearents have prepared to pay.
Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
So, yeah, you've won out of four, really fulfilled your expectations.
So overall positive.
Speaker 10 (01:06:43):
For the one we had a really good connection with
the year that was positive, It was a good experiment.
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Really.
Speaker 10 (01:06:48):
Yeah, I say the last one really just felt plant.
It didn't didn't work at all. He's east in New Zealand.
He'll be another term at school. But I haven't heard
a word like, I mean, he I was away on
business when I got the text from my wife saying
he he just he'd announced his leaving. It's that he's
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going somewhere else. It's like, so, yeah, that was about
and then that was it. I'd never heard a word
either from then. I got home from work that way,
get home from being away and gone.
Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:07:18):
So it pretty Ouce stums up that one.
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Well, thank you so much for sharing that, Stew. That's interesting.
It's because you think that the kid going away is
getting the experience, but also if you've got someone from Germany, say,
coming into your family, then that's also wider than the
understanding of the world for the family as well. And
the kid back here in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
And I like Stew's philosophy there. It was worth a punt.
It was worth a punt one out of four bed
or maybe it is.
Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Coming up after the break, we've got a Grant who's
was an exchange student in the US, and we've got
Jenny who's daughter went to Honduras.
Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Yep, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you
want to jump in in this conversation as well. It's
nineteen to three.
Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Mattie Tyler Adams.
Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
I'm taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty Matten Tayler Afternoon with the Volvo xc N eighty
Tick every box, A seamless experien It's a week's news dogs.
Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Good afternoon, sixteen to three. We're talking about student exchanges
on the back of what was a pretty hard experience
for a teenager being stranded an LA.
Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Eight character building experiences called a teenage exchange student flying
home from the US was stranded at Los Angeles Airport
for thirty hours after airline staff withheld at Hotel Virtual
because she was too young to book online and kept
her from its lounge because she was too young to
be left alone. Au our cool. You've got to say,
in terms of stories, this isn't that bad, Like you
know what I mean? Like that is all that is
is a character building story. Yeah, you spent thirty hours
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in an airport. Anyway, we've got Grant on the line.
Grant you're an exchange student in the.
Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
US, Oh guys, yeah, I was a long time ago,
nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Wow. Yeah, and so what part of New Zealand did
you come from to go to the US, And what
part of the US did you go to.
Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
I was from Christ Church and I went to Indiana.
So I lived my year in Indianapolis. But I traveled
around the States quite a bit while I was there.
But I stayed with the one family the whole time. Yeah,
for a year.
Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Oh so what the family was traveling around a bit
and took you with them.
Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
Yeah, but I also did some short term exchanges to
the smaller town like like rural towns and having the light.
Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
How old were you when you went over Grant seventeen? Ah, yeah, okay,
And what was the experience like? Because imagined christ that
in nineteen seventy eight, because that was you know, that
was before that nineteen eighty four when we opened up
the economy. You know, people used to say that they'd
come to New Zealand, and New Zealand seemed like fifty
years behind the United States. So it must have been
quite exciting to go over and see all just the
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clothes and the toys and the culture and the TV.
Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
Yeah, it was great. I mean, it was definitely, like
somebody said earlier, it was the best year of my life.
It was interesting coming from a school that had a
total role from year one to seventh form of six
hundred into a school, the high school that had a
roll of three and a half thousand. So that was
(01:10:14):
a big culture shock.
Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Was it the big cheerleader yellow bus experience that you
get from movies?
Speaker 6 (01:10:22):
Yeah? Completely.
Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
It was a pretty scary for not just yourself, granted,
for your parents or was it kind of just I
mean it was a different time back then that they
knew it was a big opportunity for you, and they
trusted everything was going to be okay.
Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
Yeah, I mean, looking back at it, it was a
big thing for my mother because she was on her own.
My father had passed away a few years beforehand, and
so it was a really big thing for her to
let go to your son for a year, and bearing
in mind that all we'd had was a photo and
a letter from my family. In those days, there was
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nothing like that.
Speaker 8 (01:11:02):
And yeah, so it was kind of like there, but
for the grace of God, going there was a more
well there was a more higher than zero chance that
you were getting billeted to a serial Killer's basically what
you say.
Speaker 6 (01:11:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Fortunately I wasn't, and I actually went
back in twenty nineteen to visit them. They're now in
a rest home.
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (01:11:23):
And I visited my two host brothers because I had
two brothers and the family that I lived with, and
I went back to the high school that I went to,
and yeah, it was great. I mean, it's an awesome experience.
I would certainly recommend any teenager who wants to kind
of widen their horizons and experience the world. It is
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a fantastic thing to do.
Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
So that was nineteen seventy eight, so there's been you know,
we've been around the sun a few times since then.
How do you think that experience has affected your life
as a whole after that?
Speaker 6 (01:11:59):
It certainly made me more aware of other cultures because
obviously I met a lot of other exchange students while
I was there. And then the final two weeks of
my year, we had a like a road trip with
all the exchange students together from all over the world
and ended up at the end of Washington, DC and
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got hosted at the White House.
Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Woa, Yeah, you went to.
Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Wow, that is phenomenal. I was just thinking the other day, Grant,
I was thinking, I'd love to go through the White
House one day and have a look at it. And
I was thinking that would be almost impossible for me
to organize. I was trying to go through. I was
trying to go through the permutations of how I would
get to go and visit the White House. So that
must have been That's phenomenal that that happened to you.
Speaker 6 (01:12:47):
Yeah, well, Jimmy Carter was the president then.
Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
How long ago Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Yeah, he's just passed away, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Did you get to meet him?
Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
No, I got to meet us. His vice president, Jimmy
was supposed to come and meet us, but he got
called away to some summit thing at cam David. So
we got to meet the vice president the time, who
vaguely cannot remember.
Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
I've just had a quite to google Walter Mondale.
Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Oh, Walter Mondale. Yeah, oh yeah, very famous. Oh wow,
that there is an incredible story. Congratulations for experiencing that,
shed and thank you so much for bringing and sharing
that with us.
Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
How good is that? Jenny, You've got an interesting experience
with your daughter and where she went on a student exchange.
Speaker 17 (01:13:35):
Yeah, she went to Honduras for twelve months and that
was about nineteen ninety and her school over the year
was in the afternoon or evening, so they had different
schooling hours to what we have. And she had send
a note saying that, you know, she was doing her
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homework in the gutter by the big tortier of the
light in the sky. She said, if you'd walked up
through those up the steams into the classrooms. And he
had to pay to go to school as well. She
said people were carrying candles, so she said they were
rackety and rus and whatever, and you can imagine if
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the fire had broken out. But her family was absolutely fantastic,
but she had to go and do the things that
they with the family or for the family. So back
then it was go down to the river to do
the washing and wash, you know, use the rocks and whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Wow, she got to.
Speaker 17 (01:14:40):
Experience to help Handria for a day or two. Some
baby jaguar cups are yeah. And then she she went
off with some other people as well, because you know,
the friends of the family, and they took her through
El Salvador and they got held up there because the
(01:15:00):
visas went right and they were threatened with jail as well,
so they'd go back and get things sorted, and she
went to Guatemala.
Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
You're not in Guatemala. Now doctor Jenny's daughters.
Speaker 17 (01:15:14):
Went for a ride in the hand operated sir as will.
Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
So, Jenny, so you're calling from Dunedin, I understand, is
that right? Yeah? And so your daughter left from Dunedin
to go to Honduras. Yes, yes, So what what a
family in Duonedan? How does a daughter decide to go
to Central America? Of all the places to go on
an exchange.
Speaker 17 (01:15:36):
Then you've got different countries and things, you know, to
perhaps choose from and look at. And that's where she was.
Speaker 11 (01:15:45):
She was sent.
Speaker 17 (01:15:47):
And it was, you know, as a political sort of
base in their country. We'd heard it a meeting before.
We went from one student who'd come back, but you know,
they didn't sort of like people if there was a
fight out on the street and he he just sort
of came across and said, well, this is what happened.
(01:16:08):
You know, there was an argument. So the guy had
a machete and he cut off one arm, cut off
the other, and then she cut off the guy's head.
Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
You had heard this before, you had sent your daughter exactly,
and we.
Speaker 17 (01:16:18):
Thought, hmm, this could be interesting. But look, she she
just absolutely loved it. The only thing that she didn't like.
I suppose was the fact that when Papa was away
then the youngest child at the time was the son.
He became the head of the family. So how could
(01:16:39):
sort of a five year old teller a fifteen year
old what to do. But you know, she said, when
she came home, she found that we were far too materialistic, right,
And she just loved it, absolutely loved it, and still
today has a lot of contact. Of course, now there's
(01:17:01):
Facebook and everything else, and she's virtualing in daily contact
with that family and she's been back as.
Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Well, Oh wow, fantastic or it's.
Speaker 17 (01:17:10):
Really really fantastic, And I'd encourage anybody. I mean, our
other daughter decided that when some of the other teachers
came over and bought short term students over that they
you know, she got to meet up with them and
and they brought one of the girls with them, and
so they said, well, why don't you come over, and
(01:17:34):
we sort of said, you're right, And then she went
to schools sorted out her powersport and whatever, and at
eleven she went off to China.
Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
End and a right, Jenny, that's fantastic. I mean, what
a gapsy mum you are as well. Sending your daughter
to Hondura's got to take a break. It is seven
minutes to three back in a mow, the.
Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Issues that affect you, and a bit of fun along
the way.
Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
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style and design.
Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Have it all you? Salk said, be.
Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
We're talking about student exchange programs, and we were talking
to Genny before we had to cut her off for
a break, just as she was telling the story about
an eleven year old going on a student exchange to Thailand?
Is that correct? Did I get that right?
Speaker 17 (01:18:20):
But she wasn't an exact exchange. It was more that
she had been with the exchange people, but she just
went privately then. But she had a wonderful time. She
went to school. She went and taught English to kids
there as.
Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Well, at the edge of eleven at eleven well.
Speaker 17 (01:18:38):
And then when she came back the following year, she
decided she was going to Japan with the school. So
she did that, but to her family's the two families
in Thailand, one of them couldn't come because they owned
a school and had graduation. The other ones did come
and came to her wedding.
Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Oh beautiful, Jenny, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
So many people on text and phones coming through. So
we'll keep this going after three o'clock, shall we?
Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Good afternoon twenty past three, and we are talking about
and exchanges on the back of a team being strengthed
in lax And you're quite right now that I think
about it, when you said it before, at a thirty
hour layover at an airport, it's not the worst experience
in the world many of us have had that they
made not sound like it was, you know, the worst
thing in the world for this teenage.
Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
I feel for this teenager. And look, it's obviously crazy
that the hotel they wouldn't book her into a hotel
because she was too young, and they wouldn't let her
into the lounge because she was too young to be
left alone with alcohol. But she was only thirty hours.
But it made the news. And look, she was crying
at one point and she rang her parents. But she's home,
(01:19:44):
all right. And look, I'll tell you what if you
go on to an exchange over in the United States
of American and you come home and that's the worst
experience you have, you probably.
Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Did all right, Yeah, And that's going to build some
character for was she's seventeen sixteen. But we've put the
call out to you, our good listeners. Have you ever
done a student exchange or indeed hosted students here in
New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Look, Tyler, we were only going to do this for
an hour, I know, or even half an hour, but
it's got the text machine is absolutely exploded on nine two,
nine two, and the phones have been going off on
n eighty ten eighty, So we've decided to extend it
for a little bit. Yes, and look, that's just that's
just the way we have to do it.
Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Something that's what we love to talk aback is these
stories are fantastic, like Susan, for example, who has hosted
many students in her time. Hey you Susan, Hi love
your show.
Speaker 7 (01:20:32):
I have to say you're always happy you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Oh, thank you, blessed you Susan.
Speaker 10 (01:20:37):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
It is day one for us, Susan, So of course
we would be here.
Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
We've got a bit of an injury after a month off.
Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Now you have hosted several students, have you, is that right?
Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (01:20:51):
During the two thousands, for about ten years we just
had two children and We wanted them to be not
selfish and appreciator the cultures. So we hosted students from Asia,
South Pacific, South America in Germany.
Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Oh wow, and did you were about sa ay you
in New Zealand, Susan.
Speaker 7 (01:21:10):
We're in well, we're in Hamilton. We're out in Lymington.
They are the Cambridge now, But when we were doing it,
we were all sort of different places in Hamilton, and
the students always had well most of them were went
to high school without two children, so that worked out
really well.
Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
And did you have good experiences?
Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (01:21:29):
The worst ones were not really a good thing to say.
The worst ones were the children of very wealthy parents
from Asia because they their parents would just packed them
off out here, and some of them would arrive with
suitcases fourteen years old full of cigarettes, et cetera. And
they were just at a party. And then some of
the South Brere and South Taiwan and the boys were
(01:21:50):
here had no social skills when it came to living
with other people. But anyhow did you think that's?
Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Because I was wondering about this because I've coached a
lot of sports teams in my time, and sometimes I
feel like parents just dumped their kids with you as
a coach to make to fix the problems that the
kids got because they can't do it. So they go
on my kids not doing very social at home. They're
not there's they're a bit of a problem. I'll dump
them overseas.
Speaker 12 (01:22:18):
Oh, but we were lucky.
Speaker 7 (01:22:19):
We always did it either through the polytechnic or there
was an organization called art Deck in those days, and
they supported you and they would take the child away
and do whatever was required. Really the parents weren't then interested,
so it was an experienced for us.
Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
So yeah, and there were positive ones where your where
your kids bonded with the the the kids that are coming.
Speaker 7 (01:22:42):
The best ones were the Germans that the girl Giesus.
I can say the names. Nobody knows who they are
from Berlin. He very very clever girl and she's now
pediatric doctor for exotic diseases in Berlin. But she came
out here, went to high school with our daughter. She
was just here to you know, she took sewing classes
and all that. She just saw it as like the
(01:23:03):
tempts on the camp for her.
Speaker 16 (01:23:05):
But we stayed.
Speaker 7 (01:23:07):
Her mother came out and spent a business with us,
and then Gizel was our daughter's bridesmaid in Germany.
Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (01:23:13):
Tim the lovely boy. He was the kind of boy
every mother would want for a son. He was just beautiful.
And always said to him, Timo, if you ever get married,
with coming to your wedding, whether we get an invite
or not, but you have to have it in the
Northern Hemisphere summit because we can't.
Speaker 10 (01:23:27):
Come in our much.
Speaker 7 (01:23:28):
Two years ago, we've got an invite, went to his wedding.
Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Wow, that's awesome. Speaking of rich parents, I had some
friends that had an exchange team that came to stay
with him from Germany, and he never really made a
big deal. He was wonderful. Became really good friends with
this kid and part of the family, and then the
whole family went to visit his family over in Germany,
and they were incredibly wealthy and lived and essentially lived
(01:23:52):
in a castle. And they arrived there and at no
point did this kid ever been anything but completely and
utterly down to earth and being grateful to be there,
and it never mentioned his incredibly wealthy status in life.
Speaker 7 (01:24:04):
They liked we go up there every year. Our daughter
met a German and Cuban of course married them. So
hence but we go to Europe every year for three months.
We spent a lot of time in Germany's.
Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Did you say your daughter married married German?
Speaker 10 (01:24:18):
Wasn't it German?
Speaker 6 (01:24:19):
Years?
Speaker 7 (01:24:19):
She was on the hunt, ceremoniously dumped while he bought
New Zealand boyfriend. And she went on these tours through
South America and Cuban. And I said, you're going to
go on those tours. She's blond and pretty.
Speaker 18 (01:24:31):
You have to do a tour.
Speaker 7 (01:24:32):
And of course her husband got the last seat on
this tour and Tuba, and he just let They fell
in love. They never held hands, they never kissed or anything.
And she long story short, they got married a couple
of years later. And yeah, we went up there and
they came back.
Speaker 9 (01:24:47):
Here for when.
Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Oh they worked out well now just quickly so that
on the fourteen year old with a suitcase full of cigarettes.
Speaker 13 (01:24:53):
Was there?
Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Were they smokers or were they using that as some
sort of currency here in New Zealand?
Speaker 7 (01:24:57):
To no, No, she was a smoker and she sort
of traded in the cigarette. She was a notorious she
was fourteen.
Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
Yeah, and it was a bit of a laugh.
Speaker 7 (01:25:07):
Yeah, like I said, took they took her away and
sort of sort of her out the work. Like I say,
the worst one was the boy where he had no
social skills. But we enjoyed them all, them all for
different reasons. And I think if you had, if you
have the wherews all, it's really good for your children
to experience that and get a taste of other cultures
than other people.
Speaker 12 (01:25:28):
And travel.
Speaker 7 (01:25:28):
Yes, I always say to people travel you know, isn't she.
Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Because I say before, because these kids came into your life,
and so your kids saw another part of the world.
And so if your daughter hadn't had in a German
and exchange students stay with her, then she might not
have struck up the conversation in the same way with
the German Man that she met on the bus and married.
If you know what I mean. There's lots of sliding
doors that come from opening people's horizons, like like having
(01:25:54):
exchange students to come to live with you.
Speaker 7 (01:25:56):
Yeah, he had traveled through MW Zealand, and he had
been to the been to Hamilton and when they first
mets off into Hamilton and she said, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Sorry about that, Susan, You've been great, thanks very much
for giving us a bus afternoon you too, Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call. Nine
two nine two. It is the text number. We'll pick
this back up very shortly. It is twenty seven past three.
Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Mad Heathen Tyler Adams.
Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Afternoons call OH eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on
news talk SAIB good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
OH one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
We're talking about student exchanges.
Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Yeah, we're talking about this. It all sprang off, this
student exchange, this young New Zealander who got stuck in
the airport for thirty hours in LA on the way
back from a student exchange. And we're actually after going
through the whole story, I thought, hang on a minute,
this isn't actually the worst thing that's ever happened to someone.
We're talking about building characters. Someone said, my parents is
texted throwing nineteen to nine two. My parents accidentally left
me in an orphanage for fifteen years. Thirty years at
(01:26:57):
lax would be.
Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Easy, Very true, very true, And you put.
Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
It that way.
Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Accidentally left me an orphanage for fifteen years. I joined
the Navy at seventeen, and that was character building. Yeah,
can you still do that?
Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Can you join at seventeen.
Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
I think you have to be eighteen to join the navy, now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
It's a great option though for a lot of youngsters.
I mean I say that as someone who's never joined
during the military, of course, I'm going to say that.
But now, if you want to study engineering or a
myriad of other things, they effectively pay for your schooling, right,
your university degree.
Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Well, I've talked about this before, and it's funny how
things how much things have changed, and how easy life
is in the year twenty twenty five, twenty twenty four,
twenty twenty five, that's that, Yeah, twenty twenty five. It's
amazing how easy it is. I mean, I read this
book of this kid who was eleven, came down to dinner,
this was in Portsmouth over in the UK, and was
(01:27:48):
told this was an eighteen forty. He was told that
he'd been signed up to the Merchant Navy and the
next day he was going never saw his family again.
He ended up running a shop in Wellington. Actually, it's
an amazing story. Yeah, you can read it. I think
it's at the Tago Museum.
Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
But you know that you said postlings and the context,
doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Yeah, they were like thirty hours in lax. Let's be terrible.
Could you've joined the merchant Navy. We'll see you never
again anyway, right, it's very nice.
Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
We're going to pick this fair cup after the headlines.
Plenty of calls to get to, but there's a free line,
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One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine two niney two is the text will get to
a few more of those as well. It is twenty
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Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Thank you very much, ray Lean.
Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
We're talking about student exchangers, whether you've had them in
your house, or you've been on one yourself or your
kids have been on one. Here's a text here from Dan. Guys,
can I send my seven year old on exchang? She's
been doing my head in these holidays. It's probably a
little bit early.
Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
See what you can Dan.
Speaker 18 (01:30:13):
We did.
Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
We did hear of an eleven year old going to
Thailand on a trip, so eleven year old, Yeah, it
certainly did. It is an interesting one, like if you like, say,
you know, we're talking before about how some people maybe
you know, send their kids that they've got problems with
to New Zealand to exchange to try and sort them out.
But there might be something in that because I've got
(01:30:34):
a bunch of friends whose teenagers are absolutely killing them.
They're apps just so angry and hate the family and
think they know absolutely everything. There's a type of teenager
that goes through that and later on there we're twenty
five and they'll be humiliated by their behavior and their family.
But there can something that can happen to a teenager
where they're just so they just hate the situation they're
(01:30:55):
in because they haven't seen the rest of the world.
I mean, should you do that, Should you send that
person on an exchange or is that would that you know,
why diden the horizons such that they appreciate their family
that they come from, or with the just destroy that
family they go through. I think because often you see
these kids that they're just so nasty to their parents.
You hear the story, but then when you run into them,
(01:31:15):
they're you know, they're all light and joy when you
go into them. So I just wonder if that would work, Like,
could you use it to fix your cad of what
I'm saying as opposed to give them an experience.
Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
Just outsource the environment and give them a bit of
a reset. I like this out of it, but it
feels like a bit of a roll of the dice
that it could go either way. Sheryl, how are you
this afternoon?
Speaker 15 (01:31:34):
Oh?
Speaker 17 (01:31:35):
Hi, guys like your show. Our family's had quite a
few experiences with exchanges, starting with my husband back in
nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Wow, where did he go?
Speaker 17 (01:31:45):
He was an AFS student American Field Service and went
to the States. And in those days, it wasn't hopping
on a plane, it was being put on a ship
in the bottom in a dorm.
Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Wow, how do you know how long that? How long
that that ship that travel?
Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
Wan?
Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
No, No, I don't know.
Speaker 17 (01:32:04):
It was way before I before, because.
Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
That is something, isn't it before you even start your situation?
Speaker 17 (01:32:10):
And like that other guy that rang and his mom
was a single mother as well, so for her to
get the money and then send her son off to
the other side of the world was for the experience
was quite wonderful. But he loved it and because of
that he wanted our daughters to do the same when
they got older. So as seventeen year olds, one went
(01:32:31):
to Holland for a year and one went to Belgium.
Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
For a year.
Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
Fantastic And how did they do it? Did they both
enjoy the experiences?
Speaker 17 (01:32:38):
Families, And they've come and stayed here, and we've been
and stayed with them, and you know, it's been a
great experience. So both the girls did when they came
back to Auckland, did their degrees, wandered Dutch for two
years and wondered frenchship as her major.
Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
So fantastic. Were your daughters worried when when one went
to Belgium and one went to sorry, what did you say?
Speaker 17 (01:33:01):
One went to Holland and it was fine, and the
other one, well, I don't think I could go away
for a year, mum. So she took off to adela
made for a term. And that girl came back and
stayed with us and she said, oh that went quite well.
I think I will go away.
Speaker 12 (01:33:16):
So all money.
Speaker 17 (01:33:19):
And when she headed off we didn't know she didn't
the hot the Dutch one. We had corresponded with the
family and knew where she was going. The Belgium one,
we had no idea that it all fell through at
the last moment, so she headed off, got on a plane.
She had no idea where she was going. I thought
she was very brave. I was a cckcase. But it
all worked out very well. Yeah, her family spoke no
(01:33:42):
English at all, just a French and the Belgian mother.
To make her feel welcome, they got a dog in
a rabbit and they called one Maori and one and
one Kiwi.
Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Nice, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
And did she assimilate, Like did she learn the language quickly?
Speaker 9 (01:34:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 17 (01:34:03):
Well she she had to just immerse self and French,
and that's why it was totally fluent and actually done
French at high school. Here the Dutch, she didn't learn
Dutch so well because the family wanted to speak English
and they wanted to have the English in their household.
Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
So high school French does not help you in France
at all. I found in.
Speaker 17 (01:34:26):
Belgium totally different French French. Yeah, it was a great
experience and they thoroughly enjoyed it. But we've asked the
grandchildren and no they.
Speaker 9 (01:34:36):
Don't want to go.
Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Why don't the grand children want to do it?
Speaker 17 (01:34:41):
I know they just freaks them out.
Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
But is that a sign of the times that now
children aren't as adventuress as they once will.
Speaker 14 (01:34:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
I wonder about that because because we you know, growing
up in New Zealand, you used to know absolutely nothing
about the world except for what you saw on TV
one basically True Disney on Sunday at Night was about
all you saw of the world, and so we had
a thirst of it now. But I wonder if young
people up feel like growing up now, I feel like
they know the world more because you know, they've got
(01:35:11):
social media, they can watch YouTube, they can watch whatever
they want, so they may feel more connected with the world.
But New Zealand used to be quite an isolated place,
didn't it.
Speaker 17 (01:35:20):
Well it was, and I mean we were reduced to
just to like a letter once a fortnight or something
like that, but we didn't certainly didn't phone or do
anything like that. But I think it was real character
building for them.
Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 17 (01:35:32):
Yeah, so we recommend it, and we didn't have any
long term here. We had short term once come and
stay with us from various countries just for a few
weeks or a term and that was all of those
were fine. So yeah, good experience, Cheryl.
Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Great to chat with you. Thank you very much for
giving us a buzz.
Speaker 17 (01:35:51):
You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 16 (01:35:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Interesting about the grandchildren, And I think you're right. There's
too much worry in this world for kids. They're anxious
about blooming everything. Whereas back in the day, even my day,
you were just it's a bit of a roll of
a dice, a bit of an adventure, but you didn't
read or watch or see too many things about the
country of origin that you're going to.
Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Right, Yeah, it was just a bit of a roll
of the time. So what you're saying, what you're saying
is so it seems now when we look back, that
you'd be going overseas and you would be more terrified
back then, but because you knew so little, you wouldn't
be you know what I mean, you know what to
worry and just assumed everything. But now we you know,
the world's safer than it's ever been, and yet we
(01:36:31):
see so much social media just blasts all the terrible
things that are happening, and if you go on TikTok,
all you see is people fighting in the streets in
the United States of America, even though that's not the
experience when you're on the ground. Yeah, so it might
actually be more terrifying for kids now to go over
there than it was back in the day. Still, I
think getting on a ship in the nineteen sixties and
(01:36:53):
you know, potentially a week or so on the water
before you even get to the port to find the family.
Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
That was gutsy, that is gussy. Yeah, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is number two. We'll have time for a
few more phone calls on this one. It is eighteen to.
Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
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Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into
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Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
Call eight hundred News Talks, they'd be Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
We're talking about student exchange programs, and we're talking about
why it appears that kids are more reticent to do
it than they used to be, even though there's zoom
and way easy to keep in contact with your with
your kids than it was before. Well, according to Cheryl,
her her husband did and her kids did, but her
grandkids don't want to do it. This text her on
(01:37:45):
nine two nine two sears I think back in the
day when we used to seeing children overseas, the family
dynamics in New Zealand were very different as the family
size was bigger and if something happened to the child,
there was always a spear from Jason. That's that's a
bit extreme, but I think there was a little bit
of that, like because I was from four kids and
I remember coming across these boxes of stuff and how
much my parents had done with the first two kids. Yep,
(01:38:07):
like we box they were just there was so much.
But by the time you get to a fourth kid, you're.
Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
The confidence is huge as he'll be right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
And you've sort of moved on in your life about
your parenting, your parenting stage, your life is kind of over,
and you've got these sort of hang on kids that
are still around.
Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
The number four is has anyone seen men eye be
around Some don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
And just the sheer amount of energy say you know,
like you know, my mum was from five kids and
and so, and you know, like there's people and my
wider family that have thirteen kids in their family, members
of a sudden church, and that there's no way that
you could have the same attention that you have on
(01:38:46):
you know, some ponts and big couple with one kid,
you know, the amount of the two parents and the
laser focus on the one that child. There's probably a
lot of this coddling that's going on. We talk about
why kids are, you know, anxious and stuff, and they
put it down a lot to you know, the being
you know, not being left to their own devices and
you know, and the anxiety of their parents is coming on.
(01:39:07):
That's probably why you've got one kid, then they're going
to have a lot of attention. If you've got four,
they're going to have a quarter of the attention.
Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Arguably, have more kids, then you've got a couple of
spears up your sleeps Now, Vicky, how are you Fie?
Speaker 14 (01:39:19):
Thank you, it's funny. I love your show. I'm to
say that we have done a lot of home stayed
over the years, and our first one was back in
Wellington about twenty years ago and a wee girl came
out from Hong Kong and she ended up living with
us for five years. She fet home at Christmas time
(01:39:43):
and then just come back to school for the school
year and then go back home again. And she's now
grown up and married and we visit and she's just
like our daughter. Really, Keena is such a young age
for a young girl, and she could speak no English
at the time, so it was a massive experience. And
our daughter, one of our daughters, was the same age,
(01:40:05):
so they kind of grew up together that point. Wow,
she could just speak Cantonese.
Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
So, oh, your daughter learned to speak Cantonese. Well, no, no, no,
so that the exchansion. So so that was so the
first year was organized?
Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
And then you just rolled it over? Did you roll
it over with the parents or whatever, or did it
leave the system or did it say it stay in
there in the system?
Speaker 14 (01:40:32):
It stayed in the system. Her father was really concerned
about Hong Kong and China at the time, and he
wanted his children educated out of Hong Kong, and so
we looked after his youngest girl and an older daughter
went to school in Australia, and then later on his
(01:40:54):
son came to New Zealand to a different school.
Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Wow, And was that was that? Did you say that?
Was that the only exchange student you had, Vicki or
did you have other ones? Oh?
Speaker 14 (01:41:04):
No, We've had lots since. That was just our start
we lived in willing To or Lower Heart at the time.
Then we came to Nelson and we've had heaps and heaps.
We've still got one now and this is her third year.
She'll be back next week on the Simon February, and
she's from Thailand. But we've had them from Thailand and Brazil,
in Germany and all over the place, really in China.
Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
And you've had all good experiences, or varied experiences.
Speaker 14 (01:41:34):
On the whole really good. Only one really not good.
My husband and I used to argue about it because
I wouldn't I wouldn't give up because he was just
not a naughty boy.
Speaker 16 (01:41:48):
And he needed to go.
Speaker 18 (01:41:50):
Really yeah.
Speaker 14 (01:41:51):
But in the end he did go and that and
it was much better. But on the whole they were wonderful,
absolutely wonderful. And the one we've got now is great,
and this is her third.
Speaker 10 (01:42:05):
Year with us.
Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Brilliant and you'll keep doing it, VICKI.
Speaker 14 (01:42:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, we really enjoy it.
We're in our seventies and it's just it keeps you young,
and it's lovely just being makes young people.
Speaker 10 (01:42:21):
It's really good.
Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
That's brilliant. You're great, Vicky, Thank you very much for
giving us a phone call. You're welcome, have a great afternoon.
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EDB News talks their b six to four, Lee, how
are you fine?
Speaker 18 (01:42:59):
Thanks? Young American came to stay with us graduate Sturdon
from at Lane to Georgia.
Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
And.
Speaker 18 (01:43:09):
We were rather surprised when he got here.
Speaker 5 (01:43:12):
He was.
Speaker 18 (01:43:14):
Tremendously well educated, honor student on a grand studying visiting
remote communities.
Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
Which about where about where about you late?
Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Oh right, you're in the Chatham.
Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
So he came from it? Did you say Atlanta, Atlanta, Georgia, Atlanta,
Georgia Islands. So when about was when abouts was this?
Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
Lee?
Speaker 18 (01:43:42):
Oh boy, this is about twenty five years ago, okay?
And he went to also went to Popland, Island's Island
in the Canadian Arctic outback Australia, and of course the Chatham.
Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
And how old was.
Speaker 18 (01:44:00):
He He would be about twenty twenty one. I went
to his wedding along with my steps son, who was
a great maters, and my step son met one of
the bridesmaids and so then I had to go back
a year later.
Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
That's well done.
Speaker 18 (01:44:20):
But because that's my speech there, I said that at
his wedding, I said, when we saw and come, we
expected a good old boy driving a pickup truck with
a Confederate flag on the door, a jar of white
lightning on the seat, and uttering occasional cries of year.
(01:44:42):
You wasn't like that at all.
Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
Yeah, that's funny, because he had gone well on the
chain of islands like that, I think yes.
Speaker 18 (01:44:49):
And I was telling him, as you were tucking into
crayfish and power and wreckers, we were allowed to hunt
wickers on the Chathams, by the way, and I'd say,
beat up, John, you'll missless when you're chewing on raw
seal meat in bath And Island. And because he was
(01:45:09):
going to a remote island for the West of Ireland
with whose name I now forget. I was priming him
with Irish jokes like the Irish our failure at a
shopping mall and people were trapped on the escalator for hours.
Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Lee, Are you still in the Chat of Islands?
Speaker 14 (01:45:35):
No?
Speaker 18 (01:45:35):
No, I'm retired to the mainland now. I can't even dive.
I had to give up diving when I turned eighty,
and so I go back. I'm going back there next
month to go shooting, fishing and meeting up with my rallies.
Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Lee, you sound like you've had a great life. Thank
you Larry much. Then as us for stay back, We'll
do it all again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
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