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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello, your great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and
Tyla podcast for the twenty first of January, in the
Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five. Thank you so
much for tuning in. Great show today.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Tyler certainly edge something for everyone, if I'm being honest
about it, The.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Trump chat was really interesting. We asked the question, and
I don't really know why I'd tell you this because
you'll see what happens because we're the very first thing
you hear as us saying what we're.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Going to talk about, right Yeah, and you don't want
to miss.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
It, yeah, because we do that at one o'clock, right, Yeah, we.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Certainly do it. Yeah, we're going to first thing after
this we intro.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
So it must be que annoying for me to listen
to this podcast when we say what we're going to
talk about, and then what we're talking about. What we
should say in this podcast intro is what we don't
talk about because yesterday we didn't. We tease that we're
going to talk about driving, teaching kids to drive. Yeah,
and then we didn't talk about it, and did we
to talk about it today?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
We did it some stage, but you're going to have
to listen.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
So yesterday yesterday, if you listen to the podcast and
you were waiting with Beta Brief to hear us talk
about teaching a kid to drive, because I'm teaching my
kids drive it the moment. We never got to it yesterday. Yeah, sorry,
but we get it to get to it today.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
But you still enjoyed yesterday's podcast. That was a good point, Dad, And.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Things got heated with a caller at one point later
on who told me not to make jokes about something.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh that's right, Pore.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, so look out for Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
He's going to be waiting for you after we record this.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Actually yeah yeah, So thanks, get a little bit heated,
but we had a great time. So I hope you
enjoyed the podcast, sit the download. Sheer like, subscribe to
all those things that help get this podcast out there,
because we really really appreciate it when you do. All right,
love you give me a taste a Kiwi your.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
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Speaker 3 (02:01):
Good afternoon to you, Welcome into the show, six past one,
feeling good on a Tuesday, Get him men.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Hey, before we left on the break, Tyler, we did
away in because we were talking about this, that we
were going to try and lose weight over the holiday break.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I failed at that, I know I did, But also
have we promised to do away and when we got
back and we were in it and we're buying for time,
I think to see because I did, I'm definitely in
the positives and I'm just trying to get that more
to neutral territory.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
But we've got to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
The thing is, I was thinking about doing it, and
then on Christmas Day I thought, nah, I'm not not
gonna be a peg. I'm not going to not be
a peg. Yeah, I'm going to be a peg. Yeah.
Well you text me just just for some kind of
stupid kind of competition with you.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I was so glad to get your ticks. When you
see it, I've just made an absolute peak of myself.
While I'm getting my fourth helping of ham, I'm like,
this is good, this is good. We're both on the
same page here, Bug it away in but we're still
going to do it, and I reckon I can get
down to neutral.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Right yeah, okay, well I've got to remember to bring
the scales and it's the main problem.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
All right, all right, we'll make a promise right now.
We will do it at the end of the week.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
What you do, what you do for a way. And
I used to help people get ready for, you know,
bodybuilding competitions, and they'd be on the dark chocolate and
the red wine the night before.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Chocolate and red wine.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I mean, that's cheating.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Right on to the show today after three o'clock. This
is going to be a doozy. We didn't get to
it yesterday.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah today, Yeah, that's right. Yesterday our chat on student
exchange programs went off, So we missed my exciting chat
on driving teaching your kids to drive cars, because I'm
teaching my son at the moment, and I've put out
that I believe that I am one of the best
parental driving instructors of all time, and I think it's generational.
I learned from the mistakes my father made, and I

(03:56):
learned and I've learned from the stakes that I've seen
my friends make, and I just I think I've got
a fantastic program for teaching kids to drive, and it
involves just getting them out on the motorway straight away.
It's the fear and awe, it's the shock and awe
way of getting them to learn to drive.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Can anyone download this program or specifically it's trademark.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I might write a book about it, but I think
everyone it's a rite of passage, as I said yesterday,
for kids learning to drive. But it's also that moment
as a parent where you teach your kids to drive.
It's an important part of life. And I felt the
weight of the moment when I was teaching them drive.
This is important. It's one of those things you're going

(04:40):
with stand up as a dad. I'm going to do
a good job of this. I'm not going to get stressed.
I'm going to say all the right things to make
them a safe driver. And I think I did a
really good job. But you know I would think that
so tight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two.
We want to talk about, you know, techniques for learning
to drive, how your driving lessons went, how to do

(05:03):
it wrong. We've all got horror stories. My son won't
have a horror story. But we've all got horror stories
from learning to drive over.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Their parents and.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Parents teaching your kids.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, exactly. My old man taught me. He was a
tough instructor, but I pretty quick. Let's after three o'clock.
After two o'clock an article about a wife who caught
her husband using a dating app. He said he was
going through a bit of a low moment at the
time and it was just a harmless ego boost as
he's wiping through and gets a few likes on his way.
Is that cheating? And you know, you made the analogy

(05:36):
a little bit earlier on in the show about just
walking down the streets. Some men, not you, Matt and
certainly not me, might have a wee sort of wandering
eye as they walk down the street. Is that effectively
the same, just in digital mode.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah. I mean, I think it's going to be a
hard one, as I said before, to get across the
line with his wife. But I mean, has he really
done anything wrong. He's just on a dating app. He
isn't organizing any dates. He's just flicking through. I guess
he's wasting time of the woman that match him, you know.
So there's that part of it. I mean, and I
could see as partner having a problem with it, But

(06:07):
in the end, I can also see his logic. He's
just flicking through. He's having a locky, you know, he's
a bit down. He wants to have some attention from
other woman. He's got no intention of cheating on his partner,
but he just wants a little bit of attention. And
maybe that's something that a lot of people, if their honors,
do want in life. And I mean, is any worse
than flicking through Instagram and looking at pictures of other people?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I don't know, love relationship pokeies. You just want to
hear a few things and that gives you a boost
and then you move on. But is that cheating nets?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
But as I say, he's definitely going to lose the
argument with his partner. Yeah, but I think I think
we might be able to. I think we might be
able to put together an argument and put his case.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yep, that's going to be a good chat after two o'clock,
but right now.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
So, Snoop Dogg performed at Donald Trump's inauguration, despite a
few years ago coming out heavily against Trump and people
that would ever perform is for Trump. But Snoop Dogg
has performed, as have the Village people performed at Trump's
victory rally on Sunday night, and Nally performed there as well.

(07:12):
You've got UFC fighters and NFL players doing the Trump Dance.
You've got more and more people coming out and support
of film. Joe Rogan came out and supported film, of course,
and Joe Rogan had supported Bernie Sanders a few years
but before that. So the question is, and you know,
from a New Zealand perspective as well, is it more
socially acceptable now to be a Trump supporter than it

(07:33):
was before? Because I think there was an sort of
an underground level of Trump support, but people were quite silent,
and they've talked about this in the polls. People if
they're asked, will say they're not, but then they are.
And this happens in a lot of voting. And that's
what's confused people in twenty sixteen, the posters and in
two and twenty four in America because it used to

(07:55):
be quite socially unacceptable. Almost canceiable, can cancelable, almost cancelable.
That's kind of an odd word, isn't it? Cancelable? Almost
cancellable to say you support Trump. But I feel like
now more and more people are coming out of the
you know, coming out as Trump supporters. So we want

(08:15):
to ask the question, Oh, e one hundred and eighty
ten eighty nine two nine two is the text number.
Do you feel it's more socially okay to be a
Trump supporter or do you think it's an absolute pariah
and any artist that has anything to do with them,
you will no longer have anything to do with their work,
or any person that comes out you'll have nothing to
do with it. Or you know, you may not be
as Trump supporter now, but you're less angry at Trump

(08:37):
supporters than you were. And I guess that's part of
the moving of the Overton window, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Do you think it a barbecue, will say round at
dinner table, or you go to a friend's place, would
you feel more comfortable raising the idea of Donald Trump
and hopefully kind of keeping it in that middle ground,
not necessarily saying hey, I'm a massive Trump supporter or
I'm a massive supporter on the other side of the spectrum,
but more that let's have a genuine conversation about some
of the policies and why he won, rather than it

(09:03):
just turning into a yeah scrap or.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Even just sticking up for him when he been wrongly
accused of something. Because the media for years has been
throwing out these little sort of moments, clickbaity moments that
have been later proven to not be true. And so
you know, maybe there's serious things that you've got, problems
have gone, but there's a lot of what's been out
there hasn't been true. So would you I think previously

(09:27):
people wouldn't even stick up for Trump at all in
a barbecue because they would think it would be be
cause just all kinds of conniptions.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, but I personally think that the Overton windows changed,
and you know, and I go out and there's people
all the time talking about Trump.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty, the text are
coming through thick and fast.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
From my point of view, I would say, look, a
year ago, I wouldn't have raised it at a barbecue
or certainly in my own house. But now, whether or
not I wholeheartedly agree with Donald Trump, I will defend
some of the things that I think are run fair
on both sides. But like you said, most of the
unfair headlines and situations came to Donald Trump, And you're
quite right when he first ran for the press and

(10:08):
see what eight years ago, he was treated as a
joke for so long. Yeah, and there's still that parcel
who still look at that guy as the your fired
reality TV show guy. This guy's got no no right
to be the president.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
But that people thought he had no right to be
a president, and obviously media buying large thought that to
the point where they thought anything they said was okay
to stop him being it. You know, they thought this
is outrageous and we've got it. We've got to stop it.
But then a lot of that stuff backfired, as this
Texas through says through here on nine two nine two,
I think the media made me a Trump supporter.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
There you go. Yeah, keep those hitt coming through on
nine two nine two. The phones had let up.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
He would have thought the village people would appear on
stage with Trump. Trump's in the background dancing.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's been a great shuffle that man, doesn't he I
love watching him move. Yeah, we'll liveing at and a
weird willed at the moment eighty it's a quarter past one.
Beckon of Mow.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
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Speaker 2 (11:23):
Be off the table. Now, Yeah, I think I think
we can say that very dumb. It doesn't doesn't furt anymore.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
No, exactly, Peter, you're calling from Queensland's nice to chet.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
How are you Ye're not to man?

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Mate?

Speaker 7 (11:38):
Yeah, look, just very Oh I must say to you, Matte.
You did say at the end of the year, the
largest military in the world, the United States.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Look it up.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
It's not the United States anymore, mate, it's not anyway, did.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I say did I say, did I say largest or
most powerful? Because they're still definitely the most powerful?

Speaker 7 (12:01):
Well a better boy, because because.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
They're not not wanting to go onto a topic from
last year. But boots, pure boots not really that important.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
Yeah, I'll just get on because I'll tell you what
that that is a power that Donald's.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Really really worried about.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
But anyway, the first time that he got and I
was in a cafeterian, I was looking at the TV
and I was look up there and I said, oh,
that's the boy that's going to be the next president
of the United States.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
And all these guys go, oh, you goop the tu
you don't know what you talk.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
Anybody got in and then I got into the cafeteria
when he's in there.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Hey boys, Hey boys, what happened?

Speaker 7 (12:40):
And honestly, mate, I've for years and years and years,
I've always said, you know how they say the right
to bear arms and in America, well I kind of
turned the change a bit because if you got past
the American Army in the United States, if if you
were silly enough to invade them, you wouldn't get back.

(13:01):
You wouldn't get past the public. So maybe maybe they should,
you know, like arm a few places like dere I
say it, open supermarkets like that.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
For a new Zalmer. That might help them out.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
And that's what Donald Trump is really worried about, because
we dig up millions and tons of coal and iron
all here and it all goes to China, and you know,
they just turn around and say, stuff, we're making electricity,
we're making steel over here. And that's what Donald Trump

(13:36):
doesn't like, because he's not going to follow what the
rest of.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
The world is doing. By trying to save the world.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
But I mean it's definitely, I mean, that's this whole thing,
as he used to saying in then Augrades Beach is
one hundred percent America First, which not necessarily great for
everyone else. But you know, you say in twenty sixteen
when you said he was going to win, I at
that point, I mean, I just did not think he
was going to win when he was coming down that escalated.

(14:06):
In fact, I didn't even think at that point that
he was serious about trying to win. And you know
I was wrong about that. But when he came down
that escalator announced, I thought it was sort of a
publicity thinking I only really knew him from appearing in
Home Alone Too, will be famous for them being the
most the richest guy he was. He was the quintessential
rich guy from New York. That's why he was in
Home Alone Too the Apprentice. So you can you can

(14:30):
understand why people at that point didn't take it seriously.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
Can I ask you why you think that Donald Trump
got in this time, because I'll tell you why. It's
because the public in the United States of America are hurting.
They're getting nowhere, how prices are going up through the
roofs over there as well.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Their cost of living is going up through.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
The roofs over there, and Donald Trump said enough of it.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
And I can.

Speaker 7 (14:55):
See why, because everybody wants to save the planet, but
nobody else wants to save their own backyard.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well, and I think the reason, I think one of
the reasons why he won is that the Democratic Party
has lost the working class Americans or the workers of America.
They've lost lost their support and that support's gone to
Donald Trump. So I think that's one of the big reasons.
And if the Democratic Party ever wants to win again,
it's going to have to work out why working class
Americans don't like them.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, and that's a danger for left parties around the world, right,
not just the Democrats, but right here at home, labor
would be facing the same sort of danger. You'd have
to say, Peter, thank you very much. O. A hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call back in
the MO It's twenty three past one.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
Get there.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Ryan Bridge on the Mike hosting Breakfast Back tomorrow at
six am with a Vita Retirement, Communities on News Talks, dB.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Snoop Dogg performed at as inauguration. The Village people appeared
on stage with them at a rally on Sunday night,
as did Nowly you've got UFC fighters and NFL players
doing the Trump dance, as Trump more socially acceptable than ever,
and as that can over here in New Zealand, two
text machine exploding the lines fall on eight hundred and

(16:05):
eighty ten eighty. But give us a ring. We'll try
and find room for you. We've got two things too,
opposing texts here. I wish I could call, but I'm
at work. I'm completely I can't respect anyone that supports Trump.
I'm glad I'm not a woman living in a miracle
or raising daughters there. His ideas are repulsive. And another
text here, about an hour ago in the Hot Valley,

(16:27):
a man was shouting and yahooing that Trump was now
president and it was the best thing that ever happened
in the world. So there's a guy in the Hut
Valley that definitely thinks it's socially acceptable to be supporting Trump.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
God, I love the Hut Valley. Trevor, how are you mate?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
How you guys?

Speaker 8 (16:42):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Good?

Speaker 9 (16:44):
Yeah, yeah good. Got off at four thirty this morning
and first watching At ten o'clock, we're going and do
some work. But I mean, just the first texture read
out from that lady that you know, the lady just
his look should hate to be a woman in America
with his views, probably on abortion. But does she realize
that record numbers a woman voted for him after you

(17:04):
said that, And it's like the first kind of the
first texture read out. You know, it's apparently seventy eight
million Americans are coming stupid. I don't think so, not
seventy eight male of them. And I think the key
thing about Trump is is he's not really a politician.
And I look upon this as being a real kick

(17:25):
up the arse for wokeness that people were starting to
get sick of. I mean, you know, Trump comes out
and says what they think. You know, he said it
again today, as far as he's concerned, there's only two genders,
male and female, and a lot of people think that,
you know, he said, you know, his views a little
bady abortion and like that lady said, you know, Michelle Obama,
oh what woman miracle ever vote for Donald Trump?

Speaker 10 (17:46):
Now?

Speaker 9 (17:46):
When you're telling them what to do with their bodies.
Record numbers are females voted for them. You know, he
says no more transdomen or people who think they're woman
are female in female biological female sport. I mean, what's
wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Now, Trevor. So, you know, you support a lot of
what he says and believes in, and they as policies.
What do you think of him as a person, Because
a lot of people like I've got this text here
nine too, I can't stand Trump, but he makes a
lot of sense in the things he says. And a
lot of what people's visceral reaction to Trump is that

(18:23):
they just don't like what he stands for. They think
that he is, you know, that he's rude and brash
and unbecoming of a president. Do you see anything in that?

Speaker 9 (18:36):
Well, I think people should learn. I mean, you know,
they see somebody nice and respectable, like Tamala Harris. But
I mean, if you listen to Kamala Harris, she's a
greenie on steroids. And you know, you've just got to
vote for people who you think are going to do
the best thing, I mean, the best thing for your country.
I mean, I noticed on the Trump's charges were like
paying a porno queen some money to keep quiet that

(18:57):
he had sex with her. I mean really, there's a
lot of people in zild would just laughing and say
so what, But some people get so offended by it,
and it's discussing and horrible. I just think the way
Trump won record numbers people voted him for, you know,
every ethnicity and record numbers, and you know, just ring

(19:17):
up and say that people that voted from a dumb
and stupid those people have no argument at all. And
I'll tell you what. On the world scale, I think
the world is a safer place and people can decide
what they like about the piece of gremin in isral.
It started one day before Trump come to power, a
week and a half after he said it. The way
he does things that if the hostages aren't released by

(19:41):
the time I come into power, there will behold a play.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Because obviously Biden was president at the time. So you
don't think that Biden's administration had anything to do it.
You think it was that Trump trump threat, Trump's threat
just push things forward.

Speaker 9 (19:57):
Well, I think it's Trump's threat And I feel sorry
for the people that were called four months ago because
if Trump had to come out and see that, because
that was the exact same way that he said to
the little rocket Man. You know, people said, oh, you
can't call him a little rockerman. You know, you can't
go and visit him. But Drump done it his way
and it was streets like he gave him us. And

(20:17):
that is that the same tool where you fear and
scare people into doing things when you think what those
people are doing is wrong. And I've got no doubts
he definitely hurried up that decision, and if he had
that two months ago, thousands of lives would have been saved.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Now, Triva, is there anything you don't like about the man?
Any policies you don't support, anything about his behavior you
don't like?

Speaker 9 (20:41):
Uh, well, look you put me on the spot then
that I distasted about him. I mean, you know what
I'd like to do that I think you wouldn't bet.
I'd love to go to one of his golf clubs
on Whole nineteen.

Speaker 11 (20:53):
In the clubroom and have a few years with Trump.

Speaker 10 (20:56):
He would be a laugh.

Speaker 9 (20:57):
He would tell a good old muddy joke and have
a laugh about this.

Speaker 12 (21:01):
He would be a great guy.

Speaker 9 (21:02):
I reckon to socially mixed with. Some people don't like
the way he acts, but that's the sort of person
I want to go out and have a socially endurable
good laugh.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I reckon Trump, Well, well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Trevor Trump would have a diet coke. Of course he
doesn't drink it all, just so you could have the beers,
you'd have the dit coke, and I'm sure you'd have
a great cat.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Hey, thanks so much of you call Trevor. Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Headlines
coming up just on what Trevor was saying about the
war in Israel and some of those other aspects. Do
you think most Americans who voted for Trump that's what
they really cared about or was it more going back
to it's the economy stupid. They are going backwards, They're
losing their jobs, they are struggling to put food on
the table. It just goes back to what is going

(21:43):
to be best for me and my family. How can
I make sure that I support that family rather than
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I think I think there's a certain amount of people
that voted for Trump just because he well, they feel
like the Democrats. You know, the Democrats were is the
party of the working class? And as I was saying before,
I think a lot of people feel like the Democrats
abandoned the working class, and Trump says the right things
around the working class. I mean, whoever thought that Donald
trum would be the working class candidate. That's what's happened.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It is twenty eight to two.

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Now back to Matt Heathan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Thank you very much, Raylean. It is twenty four to two.
We're talking about Trump.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
His inauguration has been We've just been watching that this morning.
Snoop Dog played at it, and the Village People played
at his victory rally last night. Addison Nelly. We just
asked the question, is more socially acceptable now to say
that you support Trump in New Zealand than it was beforehand?
I mean, obviously those example of big artists overseas, but

(24:04):
it just feels like you were finished if you had
any association with Trump just a few years ago. But
now for me, it seems like the window, the Overton
window has shifted and people are more and more people
are saying that they support Trump.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Well, like when you said earlier, when you get the
village people saying, hey, you know, we just want people
to support our music, no matter whether you're a Republican
or Democrat. The tide certainly turned, when previously it was
just Holt Hogan and kid Rock that Donald could get.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
So yeah, this is the statement from the village people.
And who ever thought they'd see Trump dancing on stage
with the village people, if you if that popped up
in a movie, it would it would It would be
a joke in a movie ten years ago. So the
village people said, we know this won't make some people happy.
Have we believe that music is to be performed without

(24:55):
without regard for politics, and that may seem seem like
quite a sort of middle road thing, but to be
on stage with Trump would have been impossible for most
artists a while ago. Here's a text here from Barrie. Hey, guys,
I was the conference of Core Christmas and Colleagues based
in the US, presented how well America was doing under
Trump when he was last in showed economic trends that

(25:15):
all declined under Biden, tariff's went up under Biden. They
said Trump is extremely popular with Middle USA. They blamed
some of the media for the way his performance has reported.
They weren't fans of Trump as a person, but said
he will be a very good president for their country.
So you're getting that a lot coming through. People might
not necessarily love him as a person. This text here

(25:37):
is interesting as well. Hi, guys, just look at Elon
Musk's speech. He's strange, awkward with his hand movements. And
at the speech he thanked the people and put his
hand to his heart and as if to throw it
all at them. He made a weird gesture. But now
on every media outlet, Headlong says, Elon Musk does a
Nazi salute. I think this is why we're all sick

(25:59):
of the clickbait media. Yeah, I mean, immediately people got
a shot of Elon Muskin said it was a Nazi salute,
when clearly it isn't. But that's that's the kind of
stuff that turns people, isn't it, Because they see that,
and then then it's easy to make the narrative that
one side is being set upon.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, you're right, and trust is a massive issue in
mainstream media at the moment, well, media across the board,
and when you're unfair or you use those headlines as
some sort of click bait. That is dangerous. Morris, how
are you?

Speaker 9 (26:29):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Very good boys?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Anyway, welcome back, Thank you, nice to be back.

Speaker 14 (26:34):
My views Trump as a male, sexist pig. And when
he was accused of raping that woman, he said, well,
I wouldn't to rape here.

Speaker 15 (26:41):
She was ugly.

Speaker 14 (26:42):
That's who the man is. But he's not PC and
that's what the world wants.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
We're over this nonsense. We're over to Cinda Adern and all.

Speaker 14 (26:50):
Those hug each other or all you know, that's all
just nonsense. And it's like I said, the economy in
New Zealand will boom. And I saw some Americans who
were staunch Democrats having a coffee down the local coffee shop,
and I said, who did you vote for?

Speaker 4 (27:03):
And the off come malayale.

Speaker 14 (27:05):
I said, why he couldn't tell me why I voted
for her?

Speaker 9 (27:08):
Was just because he's a Democrat.

Speaker 14 (27:11):
They couldn't explain why they voted for And if you
look at this, this is how overwhelming it was. He
won every state that you had to show ID, every
single stake, every single thing we had to show ID
to vote. He won the only one she won is
we didn't need ID and that says at all, and
that's what's wrong with America.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, okay, well think thank you if you call Morris,
appreciate it. This textas sees, my opinion on Trump changed
from loathing to slight admiration. I'm watching live how he
acted to being shot showed to me he can think
on his feet and react. That was amazing. How quickly
that shooting disappeared from the media, though.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, And that is the world we live in
at the moment, though, wasn't it. That is the attempted
assassination of a US president, And within a week we'd
forgot about it.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I barely cared about it two weeks later, you know.
It was just we tuned through things so fast, now,
don't we.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten is the number to call.
Is it socially acceptable now to say that you support
Donald Trump? Paul, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Oh? Really good?

Speaker 16 (28:17):
Thank you, Matt and silent Tyler, and I think it's
more socially acceptable to say you support Trump now all
I wouldn't And I agree with the first comments of
your last Paul saying he's what did he refer to
her as a pick?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
M M, A sexist pick, that's what That's what Trevor said.
But Trevor was a big scored Marris.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Sorry.

Speaker 15 (28:43):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 17 (28:45):
I'm interested in the fact that this is the hot
topic of the day.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
What the Zeland does you think about?

Speaker 16 (28:50):
I can support Trump and bag to your introduction. I'm
not sure who was talking about how good Milanie was
looking and much is and I don't know what the
point of that was.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Just because it was vaguely interesting. I'm a huge fan
of the Jim Carrey movie The Mask, and I thought
it was vaguely interesting that she was wearing a he
in a fashion that reminded me of The Mask. So
that's why I brought it up. I thought it was
funny and interesting.

Speaker 16 (29:14):
Give us some more details about what she's doing and
how you thought she looked.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I can if you want. I thought she looked great.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
It's a bit of entertainment.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, and you know, she'd obviously she'd obviously spent she'd
obviously spend quite a time getting ready, Paul, and she
popped up on the screen because her hat look she
wore it like it looked like Jim Carrey in The Mask,
one of my favorite movies.

Speaker 12 (29:38):
Point.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, I don't. I don't get your point. I don't think.
I think we live in a world where you can
see something and comment on it and make a reference
between it and something else and it's not some huge
conspiracy you know women, Mate, dude, come on you, So
you're saying that people don't comment on Trump's here, They
don't say comment on what on Trump's weight or the

(29:59):
way he looks. Come on, people comment on what's in
front of them looks.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Well.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, yeah, you can say. You can say I'm not
you're supposed to, but I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
You guys raise the standards.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Nah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
But that's always happening. You know, there's always you look
at any talk show or satire show or comedy, there's
always a bit of fun being poked at various people.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
You have to be a seriously, Paul, are you saying
that if you see someone walk out in an outfit
that looks slightly like the outfit from from the Mask?

Speaker 18 (30:34):
You can think what you want.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
You don't bize it.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, I do. I ver belize nearly everything. I think.
That's why I'm on the.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Radio in front of your daughters.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Say if my daughter came out and she was wearing
a hat, if I had a daughter and it looked
like Jim Carrey in the mask, I'd say, hey, you
look like Jim Carrey in the mask. That's what i'd say.

Speaker 16 (30:53):
You know, I think you'd be very careful about anyway.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
So that's my point.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Well, thank you a corporal.

Speaker 16 (30:59):
The relevant topic today, Well.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
It was relevant to do about anything. I mean, you
can always you can always have the argument that anything
anyone's talking about isn't relevant. It's very relevant, Paul, PAULA.
It's relevant to me because I found it interesting and
I thought it was an interesting topic to talk about,
and the fact that there's thousands of texts coming through
in full lines of callers that will go to so

(31:24):
you said, other people find it interesting, but if you don't,
then I appreciate that as well. So you have a
great day, Paul, Thanks for calling there.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Thanks Matte.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
All right, Oh eight hundred and eight.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Look a lot like Jim Carrey and the mask.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Honestly, google it and you'll have a bit of a laugh.
And it doesn't need to be offensive to anybody.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
And I'll tell you what she's got great check bunch.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
She certainly does. Ninety two is the text number. It
is sixteen to two.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
They have it all New Talk said.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Be good after noon, thirteen to two. Some great texts
going through me.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, we're talking about if Trump is more socially acceptable
now and if people are willing to say that they
support them at barbecues and such. Here's an interesting text
on nineteen nine two. Hey guys, I'm an American having
lived in New Zealand for the past seven years. I
hold conservative positions politically, and Trump was my hold your
nose and vote option in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty.

(32:15):
I found myself less put off by him in this
last election cycle and more excited he had won than
in twenty sixteen. He's far from my favorite person, but
I'm glad he won. And to hear your callers in
Texas speaking somewhat positive about him is something I never
thought i'd hear in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Great text, Great text.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Seriously, in twenty sixteen, the numbers of people talking positively
about Trump. This is just my point. Yeah, you know,
this is my point. I'm trying to make that basically,
it is more socially acceptable. So I'm asking the question,
but I know the answer.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Rich it you reckon, people are finally waking up.

Speaker 12 (32:51):
Yeah, and in what way?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
In what way?

Speaker 12 (32:55):
Well, I think that the left wing media, particularly in
the US, is just so powerful and so many issues,
such a powerful lobby, and you know, pretty hard to
fight your a from underneath that lot, and it's coming through.
I mean most I'm in business, and I would say
ninety percent of the business people that I would call

(33:18):
relatively smart people that survive on there would say all
with Trump from right from the start. It's just a
lot of people who have ten minutes look at news,
they say, oh, this guy's a lunatic. They hear all
this stuff and they find one negative thing or whatever
and it just comes across. So he's been mate, I'll
tell you what what a leader. I mean to come

(33:38):
through all of that, I think he's amazing. I say,
I think he's a highly intelligent man. I'm not I'm
not going to comment on his morals. That's irrelevant. Everyone's
got morals. But he's a highly intelligent man. And I
mean to fight to come through the New York real
estate scene, all those years fighting with it, with ma

(33:59):
Fia with all sorts of Really, that's the hardest place
in the world to work, and he comes through it
all an amazing guy.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'll tell you what, Richard, what you think of Trump's politics,
The fact that the amount of pressure that guy has
been under for the amount of time he has, with
the court cases and the and you know, the media
coming for him, and you know, being shot and such.
The guy there's something in the guy's system. I don't
know what fuels him.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
He doesn't give up, does he?

Speaker 4 (34:29):
The guy?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
And that must have been frustrating for the Democrats because
they thought he was down and out, but he just
he just keeps coming like the terminator. He's just.

Speaker 12 (34:41):
Then you can stand there and talk for various long
as you want to listen to him without already teleprompter.
He's he's so passionate. Joe's those other guys couldn't speak
without it, without without notes, I mean, different, different, different
cult quality of given being really as a politician. Anyway,
such a great day for America, a great day for

(35:01):
the world.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Good on your watchet, thanks for giving us a buzz.
Have a good afternoon, Nate. All right, Well, oh, one
hundred and eighteen eighty is the number of call. It
is ten to two beg very shortly. You're listening to
Mett and Tyler Good Afternoon.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
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Speaker 3 (35:28):
News TALKSB, news TALKSZB. We're talking about Donald Trump. Is
at more socially acceptable to say you're a big supporter
of his Tony good.

Speaker 19 (35:35):
Afternoon, Good afternoon.

Speaker 20 (35:38):
I would say I'm ambivalent towards Trump to the bar
I was, I'm now fascinated and quite proud of his
achievements for him. I've been following American presidential elections since
John Kennedy when I was about I must have been
about eleven or twelve at the time. And you know,

(36:00):
they talk about Trump's morals, I'd say, this is the
lock up your daughter's wives and mistresses brigade because Kennedy
later Clinton and the Moles. I mean, what on earth
are the Democrats crowing about? I mean that no one's
been able to get a photo or of convincing evidence

(36:23):
that he was screwing it into Trump's been screwed into into.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
The Oval office.

Speaker 20 (36:27):
Am like Clinton.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Nor the Kennedy brothers.

Speaker 20 (36:34):
All of them were as bad. They were doing the
rounds of the Hollywood ladies.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Root and I think I think that's why I wasn't
a very strong It has been an unsuccessful attack from
the Democrats. I saw Tim Kaine, who ran with Hillary
Clinton back in twenty sixteen, really having a go at
a congressional hearing about morals and and and you were going, well,

(37:00):
you didn't have that problem with Bill Clinton.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, tiny, thank you very much. All right, never, good afternoon.
A couple of good texts to wrap this one up.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, this text on nine two nine two. Trump could
never ever be socially acceptable to be brought up anywhere
on the building site. He would have been referred to
a sandwich sort of a picnic, says this text. And
on the other side, this texture on nine two nine
two suggests it's not socially acceptable to support Trump in business.
As an accountant, I strongly support my man Trump, my

(37:32):
man Trump, that is STROMP if he's your man, but
never openly shared for fear of losing clients and damaging
my business. Even today, a client was saying the world
is doomed due to Trump. I couldn't argue strongly as
I know they would. They would find another accountant.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I mean, you've got to choose in any political direction
you're on, You've got to choose when you're gonna when
you're going to fight your corner and maybe if they're
paying you to your account and that's not the time
to really lay into the.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Do you think that's going to carry on?

Speaker 9 (37:58):
Though?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Because that's the world we are at the moment. It
never used to be like that. If you said you're
a Republican or a Democrat or labor or national wasn't
quite to that same extent and say, how dare you?
I'm not going to do business with you. But that's
where we're at at the moment. I'm hoping and as
we talked about in the air break, this is a
calmer Trump than we saw in twenty sixteen, because it
probably doesn't need to be the Trump who he was
when he started it, and he's way more knowledgeable. But

(38:19):
I generally, and maybe I'm being a bit Pollyanna here,
generally hoping that we get the tribal nature of politics
can just calm down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, well you've got it. You've got to be aware, though, Tyler,
that that's not necessarily out everyone is thinking. It's how
social media makes it seem, and media and genera makes
it theme that people are just running around screaming and
angry to each other and incredibly politically partisan. But you know,
if I run into someone that doesn't agree with me politically,
I don't make screaming at them. I'll have a beer

(38:50):
with anyone. I don't think within reason, But you know
what I mean, I don't know. Sometimes sometimes I wonder
if we're as socially polarized as we're led to believe.
But you know, I could be wrong. Maybe I'm being
Pollyanna in that, right? Is that what that means a Pollyanna?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I think Pollyanna just means that what rainbows and candy?
Your look? Is that right?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I'm thinking of a Nancy Sue.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
What's that anyway? Nancy Sue's and our Pollyanna's. After two o'clock,
we want to chat about looking at dating apps as
a husband or a partner or someone you've just started dating.
Is that effectively cheating great article in the Herald about
a wife who caught her husband doing just that. We'll

(39:32):
tell you more very shortly. Welcome back into the show
and great discussion last hour. But we are moving on
to another topic. We want to talk about an article
that was in the New Zealand Herald. It was written internationally,
but the headline is I caught my husband using a
dating app. He claimed it was harmless ego boost was

(39:54):
that cheating? So to give you a bit more about
this particular story, So the husband fell asleep using his
phone and the wife glanced at the glowing screen. She says,
I was surprised to see a close up of a
pretty woman's face, but I want to spy. I told
myself it was just an image from the article he
had been reading and turned the phone off. I was
so naive. We were married before dating apps were normalized

(40:17):
and I'd never used one. They live in a small
village in the Cotswolds. Beautiful place in the UK. Actually,
isn't that where Jimmy Clarkson lives?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Oh the cotswoldzy and there Oxford. I visited there last year. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well, she goes on to say, where everyone knows each other.
So when I saw an envelope lying on the mat
after Tim had gone to work, her husband, I assumed
it was some missive about a pub quiz, and when
I opened it I laughed in shock. It said Kate,
check tin day. Your husband is on there, and I
think you should know. Her first reaction, she said, is
that it was a stupid joke. Had one of the

(40:50):
kids thought it might be funny question mark, but none
of them would have done this. Part of me thought
I should phone to him or simply ignore it, but
I also knew if I warned him, he'd have time
to delete that account. So she went on to say
she confronted her husband Tim as he came home from work,
and he immediately admitted it. He had no choice to deny, deny,
I feel it. Wow, well his profile was still lumpy,

(41:12):
So don't deny. You know you admit that to him.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I just said a mate that always said deny, I deny.
That was his rule for everything. He denied.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
I don't know what's easy to remember that. So the
husband came back and he said, after apologizing, he simply
said he'd been feeling on the scrap heap and it
had been away to make himself feel better, like when
you get your hair done. It's a little ego boost,
which is a hicck of a line from the husband,
like when you get your hair done.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I mean there's a couple of issues here. For a start,
he hasn't cheated on here, has he? No so, and
he hasn't organized any dates. So he's just looking at
other women and it's sad empathetic on his Behart. You've
got to say, but there's nothing. Sometimes we all have
times in our life where we're sad and pathetic. But
he just wanted someone to match with him so he

(42:00):
felt good. He wanted that buzz right, and it's probably
probably not healthy. No, but has he really done anything
wrong except for waste the time of the woman that
have matched with them.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I wouldn't call it cheating, it's dishonest. But is it
that much different to a guy buying a convertible in
his late fifties, for example, you know, going through a
bit of that crisis. He wants to buy a nice,
nice car. Why does he want to buy a nice
car to make good woman?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Arguably for a woman to look at him driving.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
A bit of a woman actually impressed by Nice car.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Well, good question, nineteen ninety two. Let us know eight
hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
So, so your question is because because I would like
to know eight hundred and eighty ten eighty whether what
people think is cheating digitally in a relationship?

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Right?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
So, what about looking at just scrolling through Instagram looking
at pictures of a beautiful woman? Is that is that
considered morally wrong in a relationship? Should in a relationship
she'd only have eyes for the person that you're with,
because that seems like an incredibly high standard. And what
about appreciating the beauty of someone in a non creepy

(43:05):
way that's walking down the street towards you and they
just happened to be in your eyesight? I mean, is
that something that your partner should be annoyed at?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
It's a great question. See with a dating app, I
think that is more egregious because you have to take
the effort to download a dating app. You probably know
as a husband or a partner, long term partner, that
that's the wrong thing to do, even if you just
want that we ego boost. Whereas if you're just going
through Instagram or TikTok, if it's still up at the moment.

(43:35):
Then it's the algorithm's fault. It's not your fault. If
they're serving you up pictures of nice looking ladies, that's
not your fault.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I reckon, it's sweet ass. I reckon. He should go
for his life and she should be cool with it,
because it's no different Like I play video games, but
I don't go and I don't go to war. But
if I suddenly got a gun and started running around
shooting people like I do in Fortnite, then that would
be a problem. But there's obviously some part of me
that wants to get that out of my system, so
I do it like that. So it seems and you know,

(44:02):
and I'm running around with other people, you know, like
strangers off and online if I'm playing a video game.
So what's the difference between that and he's just he's
just in a completely safe way, sitting on the couch
and he fell asleep. That was stupid of him with
his app open. He fell asleep, But it's a completely

(44:25):
So he's so he's having this slight dipping his toe
in the water of being part of that dating world
without actually hurting his partner.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yeah, I actually think he's been genuine when he says
it's a wee ego boost. He's clearly going through a
bit of a sad time in his life for whatever reason.
And I'm not defending the guy through going through there.
That's probably not the way to deal with that. But
I think genuinely in this instance, he wanted that ego
boost that was like a midlife crisis moment for him,
rather than any attempt to cheat on his wife or

(44:57):
find something better.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think go for your life. I think
I'd like to hear one undred and eighty ten eighty.
I'd like to hear from from a woman in this
situation for some reason, or are a man either ruin
prox I just sapt entirely from my perspective, but how
they would feel if their husband was doing that or
their partner was doing that, that they found them on
a dating app but they weren't actually acting. I mean,

(45:20):
if they're on a dating app and they're out meeting people,
then of course that's not clearly that's a breaching. They're
running some kind of open relationship. And you know, God,
I've got thoughts on open relationships. I don't think they're
a real thing.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Well, if you're in our open relationship, I wait, under
an eighty ten eight love to chat with you? Genuinely,
I'd say that, well, can.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
You be in a digital open relationship? So, I mean
that's the other thing. What about people, because there's lots
of back in the day, people just get addicted to
those nine hundred ads and then people will find a
bill and you found out that your husband had just
been ringing these and having this whole basic relationship with
some at the end of the line that they're paying
to talk to in a sexual manner.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Did you ever jump in those party lines? I never
understood those party lines? What do you do? Oh nine
hundred party line? And what was the party on the phone?
What did you do so that digital cheers?

Speaker 2 (46:08):
You mean eight hundred join the party? That's won't find
that ad? I never actually I never understood those either, oh.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Eight one hundred eighty eight. So when it comes to
a long term partner or a husband or a wife
been on a dating app for some sort of ego boost?
Is that cheating? Love to hear from you? Nine two
ninety two is the text number. It is thirteen.

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Speaker 6 (46:39):
Call eight hundred eighty eight News Talk said, be.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Matt, is it her fault for letting herself go and
she needs to sharper, shape up, go to the gym,
by sexy underwar, cooked dinner every night and pleasure him regularly.
Say that is that what you're saying? Did you say that?
But that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying, I
was saying that this guy who's gone on dating apps
and this flicking through woman that he's not going to

(47:04):
date is sad and I feel a little bit sorry
for him. But I'm not sure if he's done anything
wrong except for wasting the time of the poor woman
that think they might be getting a match. And there's
a little bit of dishonesty in there, but I don't
think he's actually cheated on his partner. That's really the question.
Does it count as cheating on a partner?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
And this is why it's a good discussion, because you
made the analogy, and I think it's a fair analogy
that going through the likes of Instagram and you are
presented with scantily clad women or men on the other
side of things, or you walk down the street and
you have a wandering knife for someone that you think
is kind of attractive, but you're not going to do
anything somewhat akin to doing that, right it is?

Speaker 2 (47:39):
It is digital window and think I think it's somewhat
akin to me playing call of duty. I'm not actually escapism,
I'm not actually killing people. At some part of me
wants to, hey, guys, you are so naive. The next
part of the ego boosters meeting up. I know people
in open relationships, and that's how it starts. That's a
whole other topic. I said before. I don't believe there's

(47:59):
anything thing is an open relationship.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
If you're in one, As I said before, give us
a call proof wrong.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I think that's just people that want someone else and
they're on a stepping you know that they're taking leaving
someone down easy. Anyway, let's not talk about that.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Evelyn, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 15 (48:13):
I'm good?

Speaker 5 (48:13):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Good?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
What's your take on what this particular husband has done.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
I'd be just interested to know if the husband is
an agreement with so his wife doing the scene.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Oh, that's a very good point.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah, that's a very very good point because because.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Of the wife who wrote this article was doing the
same thing for an ego boost, would Tim feel that
comfortable with it? You have to argue, No, he probably
wouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
And that's interesting to bring that up because in my
going through the scenario in my head, I have only
put it from my point of view, and I was like, oh,
it's all right, I didn't mean any harm. Yeah, but
I think I'd feel very differently if I was on
the other side of it. But I'd definitely asking.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, thank you, thank you, Evelyn. Look it is I mean,
it's a gutsy move to go on something like Tinder
as a husband because, as what happened in this instance,
they're in a small community, and when you put your
photo on a digital platform where other members of the
community are going through trying to find a partner or
a lover, clearly you kind of get found out, is

(49:17):
what happened in this scenario. So a bit of a
cry for help.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, brought at this text here, Matt and Tyler. It
doesn't matter where you get your appetite, as long as
you go home to eat.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
A hell of a philosophy, some great techs coming through
on nine two nine two. Going on Tinder when you
were married or in a relationship is absolutely cheating, one
hundred percent. He has been disloyal and opening himself up
to more. He's also playing a game with genuine people
wanting a relationship, so he's a player either way. From Sandra, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I agree with that from Sandra, that he's that he's missing.
He's at least very basically being dishonest and missing with
the woman. But I'm just not sure if he's cheating
on his partner.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yeah, Josh, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (50:03):
Hey boys, Hey, goody arms again?

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Jeez?

Speaker 17 (50:06):
You know guy, Yeah, he's caught red hands man, Like,
there's no way, there's no way he wouldn't follow through
if he got some good connections there. And who's to
say if he's got per app whether or not he's
been chatting to some.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Of these birds.

Speaker 17 (50:25):
Yeah, I think he's Yeah, he's busted. Man. You know,
you know what he should He should either love his
wife to the full extent possible or if he's had enough,
get out, but don't stand in the in between acting
like or wouldn't How old was he anyways, you guys know, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
That's a good question.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Well she was fifty three, so you're assume and I'm
making big assumptions you.

Speaker 17 (50:51):
Yeah, so I'm going to say.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
I'm going to.

Speaker 17 (50:53):
Say that if he's mid fifties, if any hot chick
between ages of twenty eight and god knows contacted him,
there's no way he wouldn't chat and follow it up.
There no way, Like, so yeah, she I know what
this woman should do.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
But yeah, no, Josh, you have you have you ever
had a wondering eye at all?

Speaker 11 (51:15):
You know?

Speaker 5 (51:16):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Yeah, mate?

Speaker 17 (51:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm actually successfully and what do you
call it? I'm single at the moment, surprised.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
All right, well yeah for your life on the appsente.

Speaker 17 (51:28):
But I'll tell you what, Yeah, no wondering why it's
the problem for me because like I just I don't know,
I got no fricking self control.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Really.

Speaker 17 (51:37):
I think as you get older you get a bit
smarter with it.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
But yeah, I can tell you for sure, dwindle as well.

Speaker 17 (51:46):
I could tell you for sure that year and I
got a couple of you know, love taps, like hey,
what are you looking at?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Crack?

Speaker 21 (51:55):
Stop looking at that?

Speaker 17 (51:57):
I'm like ship man, she's having a shower on a
bikini at the beach and you're just trying not to
you know, look at it.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Hey you're single, Josh. You say you're single at the moment.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Are you looking for love? And if you are, are
you doing it on the apps?

Speaker 17 (52:15):
I'm not looking for love. No, I'm Jacob open. I'm
open to the idea. But hey, look I'm not going
to stress about it. I'm actually just having fun. And
and you know, twenty years ago I decided I wasn't
going to get married, and then I got sort of
cond into it. So I'm like saying that, I don't know.
Would I be open to long term stuff again?

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (52:38):
Maybe, but she'd have to be gold.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Yeah, you know she's got to.

Speaker 17 (52:43):
There's too many boxes. It's like, do you like sports?

Speaker 10 (52:46):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (52:47):
No?

Speaker 17 (52:48):
Do you mind if I watch four games a league
every weekend?

Speaker 8 (52:51):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (52:52):
Do you mind if I watch the see for six
hours every odd Sunday?

Speaker 2 (52:58):
A perfect woman?

Speaker 17 (52:59):
Oh Jesus, tough.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Good luck, guys.

Speaker 17 (53:02):
I reckon this guy's he's caught red handed. There's no
way you wouldn't have followed through.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Nowhere shares for you? Cool, Josh, Thank you so much.
Do you know what I think is the saddest thing
in relationships. And I've seen this with people that I've
known the whole time they're in a relationship. They think
that they're missing out a whole lot of people. They
have this fantasy idea of all the people they're missing
out of, and so they don't, you know, they almost
resent their partner because there's all these people out there
that they see and they think they can be with

(53:28):
all of them. And then they break up with their
partner and they get single and they realize, actually, that
was the only person that wanted you make exactly that
that was your imagination that this person was competing with.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
I've seen it happened so many times, oh eight, one
hundred eighty, ten eighty. In this particular scenario of the
husband on the date dating app, he wasn't doing anything
more than just getting an ego boost.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
He shairs.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Is that cheating this?

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Texas says that man may be on a diet, but
he was looking at the menu.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Niney two is the text number. It's twenty four plus
too like to share with us?

Speaker 5 (54:02):
I do I have.

Speaker 22 (54:05):
I had a husband and we met on a dating
site and I found out a couple of weeks into
our marriage that he still had an account to be
claims for the whole I was just feeling sad and disconnected,
so I was just doing it for a bit of attention.
I just think he had multiple families. I didn't stick

(54:27):
around long enough to find out that he was one
hundred percent there, But I didn't necessarily call it part
of the story. How you can hear a crying baby
in the background. It's the product of a very short marriage.
But yeah, I think a lot of people focused on how,
you know, you could easily feel empathy for someone who

(54:48):
feels like they've got to be unmit needs like I
need a little bit of a burst or a little
bit of attention, and kind of relate to that, and so,
you know what, We've all felt like that sometimes. But
it's actually about what you satisfied. It's not necessarily what
you expect from each other, but what you use what
you don't do as well. You expect from the other
person that they will make the sacrific, but when they

(55:09):
have urges and temptations that they avoid them.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
So fear. When you found out that he was on
the app, so you met on an app, and when
you found out he was on the app? How much
longer did the relationship last?

Speaker 15 (55:24):
He said, the whole.

Speaker 22 (55:27):
Kind of say do it again. But a lot of
other very more serious problems came up almost immediately.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
So yeah, one for you.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
We're loving this chat. But do you want to look
after your beautiful bub in the background here? And we
might Yeah, you're a good mum. We might try and
come back to you after the headlines. Does it sound
all right?

Speaker 2 (55:47):
We've all been sure? Okay, we've all been there.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yep, thank you very much. I had one hundred eighty
ten eighty. Hopefully we'll go back to thea after she's
looked after a beautiful bub there, headlines coming up. Text
of you are the text number if you want to
send through a Texas nine to ninety two, quick one
to the headline. Guys, you were so naive. The next
part of the ego Boosters meeting up.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I already read that text Tyler. Oh that's right.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
It's about the open relationships again, and maybe you're right.
No one in an open relationship is called through a
text through If you are in an open relationship, this
is a safe space. I want to hear from you,
and I want to prove Matt wrong that there are
genuine open relationships in New Zealand and this world.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Well, this text says sounds like you two are looking
for approval to cheat on your partners, seeking out different
random meetings. That's a huge accusation.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
That's a accusation. Is twenty nine past two headlines coming.

Speaker 13 (56:35):
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It's no trouble with the blue bubble. The new US
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has already revoked seventy eight of Joe Biden's presidential actions.
Donald Trump's other early actions include leaving the Paris Climate Accords,

(56:58):
freezing federal hiring, and directing all branches of government to
address the cost of living crisis. The town of Russell
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(57:21):
watchers and warnings apply today for Corimandel, Northland, Auckland and Gisbon.
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(57:41):
the event will quit the Capitol next year to find
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his State of the Nation's speech this week? You can
see Simon Wilson's full column at end said Herald Premium.
Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Thank you very much, Raylean. We are talking about an
article in the Herald today and the headline as I
caught my husband using a dating nappy claimed it was
a harmless ego boost. Was that cheating? Certainly a lot
of tias coming through on nine two nine too. I'd
say seventy percent would say it absolutely is cheating.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Met definitely cheating. If you're doing something you wouldn't discuss
or tell your partner about, or you're doing it behind
the back, it is cheating, pure and simple. Okay, someone
our says or blah blah blah blah. Oh hey fellers.
To make it more controversial, read the Bible Matthew five
twenty eight. Is that the one anyone who locks at

(58:34):
a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with the And
as hard as that that one, I think, Yeah, that
rings a bell.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
You're well done on your Bible.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
So that's that's a tough one, though, isn't it? So
anyone that looks at a woman lustfully. But what if
it's not your fault? You can you can just be
walking walking along and suddenly before your prefrontal cortex is
even kicked in, you're the reptilian part of your brain.
You're a migdala has already looked at someone lustfully for you.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Doesn't make any difference, so fast.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
It's what you do with that. It's what you do
with those primal instincts. That is what morality is.

Speaker 9 (59:09):
Right.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
But say famous actors, you know, Magic Mike for example,
very famous movie, very successful Movieatum getting his kid off.
The ladies loved it. Is that because that's a make
believe character. And if you're a guy to do that with,
say Jennifer Lawrence for example, that they's somewhat more okay
for doing that because it's kind of make believe. Whereas

(59:31):
in this scenario, the dating app, it's real life.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Well they're real people, right, yeah, but yeah, I mean
the Bible wasn't you know when Matthew was writing that,
but he hadn't seen magic, Mike, no Aton for that matter.
The only entertainment was the people walking around.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Eighty and eighty is the number to call. GeTe Todd,
go God. What's your take on this?

Speaker 11 (59:56):
Honestly, I think most men are basically as faithful as
options they have. Yeah, right, So I think when you're
getting married, it's all love and all good, and then
typically men we're all away from our wives and then
it just takes that one decision to go, well, I
just I just download the app, I'll just have a look,

(01:00:17):
you know, and it's one decision that's starting the slippery slope.
And then that just looking turned into one match, and
then it's oh, well, maybe just one conversation, and then
it's just one even meaningful conversation. Yeah, and then it's
I think it's all cheating rights from that first decision,

(01:00:37):
you know, I think making the decision to commit to
your wife, and if it's boring with your wife or
your partner, then make it a bit spicy sender a
couple of texts that you'd send someone on Tinder a
text you know your wife involved in it. It's much
healthier and costs a hell of a lot less.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Yeah, I mean, there was definitely there's definitely a want
there that he's suggesting, isn't it, Because he's definitely at
the very least, whether he's cheating or not. And as
you say, it's it's on the path to cheating. It's
definitely within the ball park of cheating.

Speaker 11 (01:01:09):
But I think if you if you said to your mother, hey,
I'm going to download Tinder and chat to a whole
lot of other girls because I'm a bit bored in
my marriage, what's your mother going to say? You know,
I think that's a pretty good gauge on whether it's
cheating or not.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, clearly in this this this scenario, Todd,
this husband, that's a it's a fragile ego, isn't it.
Where he says, Hey, I wonder if I've still got it.
I wonder if I can get a few likes from
maybe women who are a bit younger than me. Clearly,
that's a guy who's quite fragile and needs some need
some proper help. But I agree that if you go
down that scenario it's quite weak. And also if that's

(01:01:44):
how you're dealing with with being in a bit of
a low point, that's probably not the way to deal
with it.

Speaker 11 (01:01:50):
Talk to your missus and say, hey, I need a
bit of reassurance. You know, I don't want to go
outside this relationship, but maybe I need a little bit
more of something. You know, It's all about communication in
my opinion, And I mean, hey, I'm I'm over the
hill a bit now, but you know, it's it's all
about telling the wife what you need as well. And
are in the same boat. They need a bit of attention.
And I think men are the same. We're just probably

(01:02:11):
a bit weak here and saying even if it is
your wife saying, hey, I need a bit of help,
I need a bit of ego boost. I need to
kind of feel like a man. I need to be
sort of chased a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:02:23):
And I don't think a woman that's in love with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
You can, you know, yeah, And and they and they
may want to do that but not feel like they
can or whatever. If you say, look, I just I
just want a bit more attention thing, Yeah, I just
want a bit more attention. I know this sounds weird,
but I want a bit more attention because I'm not
feeling great about myself. Is a hard thing for a
man to say, but it might be something that a

(01:02:50):
woman's happy to hear, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:02:52):
But I think I think if you asked that man
that got caught when the last time he came home
with a bunch of flowers for his wife or yeah,
or got home and walked in and said, Hey, honey,
we're going out for dinner. Let's go chuck some shoes on.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
We're out.

Speaker 11 (01:03:04):
You know where are they trying to set up a
coffee date with their partner, let alone a stranger?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Yeah? I mean and in the in in the end,
it's the unhappy version of the Peina Kolata song, isn't it.
I was tired of my lady. We've been together too long,
like a worn out recording of my favorite song. They
they both put heads in the paper and they met
each other.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Happy Indians very much mate.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Although see thanks for your call. I always think with
that one, it was so specific that it had to
be like do you make like like making making love
on the dunes of the Cape that's very, very specific.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Who doesn't like making love on the dunes at the cape?

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
What Cape?

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Well, you know, if your lovely partner sea, we make
love on the dunes in the cape, I'm sure you'd say, yeah,
this sounds a great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yeah, but it's been one of your top three. Let's
not let's not really good at relitigate. The Rupert Holmes
glossic curve was my own. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
And one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
of call? Is it cheating? And this scenario, the husband
was caught on a dating a dating app. He says
he wasn't doing anything apart from getting what he called
a harmless ego boost. How do you feel about that?
Nine two nine two is the text number? It is
twenty one to three.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
Else had a commitment to count this news talks, they'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I'm just calling to question the whole penoclada song. It's
too specific. If you like pinacoladas and getting caught in
the rain, if you're not into yoga, if you have
half a brain, if you like making love and midnight
and the dunes of the cape, what cape? If it's
Cape felwynd On the West coast of New Zealand. I
don't like making love and Cape fel One, and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
That would be a bad time. I mean, it sounds
all right, but I can know that's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
So bad, so you can match with that person right
up at that point. It's like some capes, not all
of them, not Cape fel One anyway, that's a totally
different issue, and uncontrolled downstairs always ends up being really expensive,
says this texture on nine two nine two yep nicely
said he was set sacred. Hi, guys, great show. I'm
a mid forties single woman and reconnected with my first

(01:05:07):
true love year. He lives in another country. Married, he's
unhappy in his marriage. It took it to his marriage
and he can't be himself. We've known each other for
thirty years. We made plans to be together, even met
midyear when I flew home. Don't judge, it's not just lust.
We do love each other. Long story short. He's committing
to moving here, but I pushed him and I got

(01:05:28):
cold feet, kept preshing him to make a decision. He
wanted to leave the correct way so there'd be no
hating each other, his wife and him. I've been up
and down with him for two months until he was
flying home from a job and I've not heard from
him for ten days. He responded with two emojis, two
messages I sent and that's all. I even got him
a job here, but now nothing. Wow, that's quite it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Well, thank you for your honesty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
That's a whole novel there, that's a whole story that
I want, an emotional roller coaster reading. Roller coaster ride
reading that. I mean, there's always the other side of
that story if you read it from the point of
view of the man's wife. But anyway, thank you for sharing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Good luck. Hope it works out for everyone involved. I'm
sure it won't. Someone's going to lose out it. That's
an Areo genesis. How are you all right, Bud? Now,
what's your take on on in this case? The dating app?
The husband's got the dating app. He said he wasn't
messaging anyone, he wasn't meeting up with anyone. As that cheating.

Speaker 23 (01:06:23):
Wow, Going back to the Bible thing, My my outlook
is it's all right to look at the menu. It's
when you place the order that's when the trouble starts.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Agreed, So, but how much time should be spending looking
at the menu. You just you know, if everyone else
is I don't know if I'm trying to work this metaphor, so.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
If you're specifically to see the menu, well, if you're
in front of your wife, no, what I'm saying is
if your wife is trying to sit down to have
a meal with you and you're constantly looking at another menu,
that's a problem, isn't it to me?

Speaker 23 (01:07:02):
That's that's going a bit overboard. Walking down the street
seeing a pretty girl, you're looking at the menu, your
son asking me if we're a phone number, and you're facing
in order.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
But what if, Genesis, you were you were at the
restaurant by yourself, and you're meant to meet up with
your wife and you just entered the there and you're
looking at the menu, and she walks along and say,
hang on a minute, what are you doing here and
looking at that menu?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
You could get a little bit of trouble if she says, like,
the menu is right here, you know, look at me, Yeah, we've.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Got we've got the menu back home. Genesis is why
what are you doing at the restaurant looking at the
menu that you shouldn't be looking at?

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Yeah, you just we're having we're eating at home tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
We ripped open that analogy that very much.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Is it torturing and analogy?

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
We will everything metaphor? Marie, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 8 (01:08:06):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (01:08:07):
You two are just loving this project, don't you. You
are just loving it. I can hear it in your
voices before I go any further.

Speaker 9 (01:08:16):
Though, Happy new Year.

Speaker 15 (01:08:21):
From someone that's been on their own for quite a while.
My idea was instigated by me, but that's a long
long time ago. But deero, do you? You two are
just loving it? Absolutely these loving it? Yeah, to hear those,
Oh yes, you're a jubidile, but ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Exactly.

Speaker 15 (01:08:44):
But it's fun though, that's the thing. You've got to
see it from the funny side.

Speaker 17 (01:08:49):
You really do.

Speaker 15 (01:08:50):
And I think you too sort of. That's exactly what
you're doing. It's I don't know. I think all these
apps and that you can get these days. I have
my phone for ringing in texting, that's a bongo. I
don't plan, I don't don't do anything, and just usual
particuar sing and ringing, not on the air. That no,

(01:09:11):
absolutely never.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
You've never been tempted, Marie, just a week.

Speaker 15 (01:09:15):
Never, No, never either.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
You're not on the social media either, no.

Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
No, no, no need.

Speaker 15 (01:09:22):
I've got the odd. I've got relatives in Australia which
I'm won the odd Facebook, but I'm not on anything
now and I've got I've never been tempted and watched
turn me right off? Is my forty three year old daughter.

Speaker 6 (01:09:37):
Does it?

Speaker 15 (01:09:37):
Stupid Pokemon?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Oh my, she's still on the Pokemon Go.

Speaker 15 (01:09:43):
Oh she does it. I don't know what, whether she
bets her or.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
What she's chasing around trying to catch Pokemon.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
That's the one years ago the Pokemon Go surprised three.

Speaker 15 (01:09:56):
She did forty three at the beginning of January.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I feel like I spent a bit of time that
in twenty sixteen, but I've moved on growing up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
It was a good game at the time.

Speaker 15 (01:10:06):
But that's the thing, is that that's the the phone now,
it's not just a phone.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
Yeah, it's a game.

Speaker 15 (01:10:12):
It's a game. Where's everything? Yeah, I have a lot
of things.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
But well, thank you so much for your call and
happy New Year and thanks thanks we're calling. Good to
speak to you again. Waste of time just to torture
this metaphor more because Texas comes through a nineteen. Waste
of time looking at the menu when you can't afford it.
That's a good point. You know, you're off in there,
you're looking at the fifty eight dollars steak and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Then it looks nice, but you know, and then.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
You're just just to play the chips.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
John, Hell you this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
I'm good.

Speaker 10 (01:10:47):
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
How are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
What's your take on the scenario?

Speaker 10 (01:10:52):
Well, personally, I don't think it's cheating, but I think
it's a very very close call to being cheating. I mean,
you're you're just one half step away from cheating. Really,
if my wife has been on tender, i'd be human.
I think i'd be kicking her out the door, to

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be honest, I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Really think that would be. It's not quite cheating, but
it's bad enough. Diffinitely, definitely definitely sort of signify as
some kind of rotten the relationship, doesn't it. There's unhappiness,
the dishonesty.

Speaker 10 (01:11:27):
Oh yeah, there's something's definitely not not right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
So, I mean, there was.

Speaker 10 (01:11:32):
A caller a few calls ago. He was he was
on the money, you know, get the the spark in
your relationship going again, take coffee. I think, yeah, he's
that's what you need to be done.

Speaker 17 (01:11:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
Yeah, yeah, No, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Men's often struggle to you know, like I've talked about
this before on the show. As well as that idea,
there's two people right about it that I like had,
the philosopher Ellen de Bhuton and Olive Berkman. And men
often live in this fantasy world where we can imagine
this amazing life and I'm not sure I'm sure women
do it as well, and no one's ever good enough

(01:12:07):
for you because they're competing with with your fantasy situation.
Whereas this Josh is saying is you know, you're with
your partner, you're with them one hundred percent, and maybe
talk to them about it and maybe say how you're
feeling and maybe say, you know, I would like a
couple more cattles and I would like a bit more
attention if you've got any to speer, you know, and
they probably they probably wire the same thing.

Speaker 24 (01:12:26):
Yeah, finless handled gramunication is key, Yeah yeah, just making
those those conversations happen, saying those things that you're maybe
a little bit nervous or too anxious to actually say.

Speaker 10 (01:12:37):
You know, listen, let's do this, Yeah, do that, you know,
just you know, reignite the relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
It seems a lot healthier than this guy falling asleep
on the couch flicking through Tinder getting rumbled.

Speaker 10 (01:12:50):
Yeah, no, it's not all man, it'sazy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
I'm not doing You're a good man, nicely said, have
great afternoon. Thank you, see you guys, cheers mate. All right,
we'll wrap this up very very soon. Now. I've got
to say I waited fifteen minutes to say this, but
if if may I caught mayvaon on going through tender
for an ego boost, yeah, I'd be absolutely distraught. And
I've got to say there's no way in how I

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would do that. I wouldn't even cross my mind and
downloading one of these dating naps, and just wouldn't because
I would see that as dishonest.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
The sticks is directed at you, Tyler. Well, I'm assuming
it's you describing woman as food and men picking from
the menu as gross and disgusting.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
I wish you too. I mean I wished Tyler and
I lived like a woman for a week and see
what it would be like to put you got Ooh
you guys are yack. We never said it, We never
we never We never said it was man or woman.
The woman could easily be.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
The menu, yep, could have been looking the stake as well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
The woman could have been looking at whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:13:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
That wasn't the point. We didn't say that particularly sexualize
it or genderize it or whatever. Yeah, but to be
more on us, we did. But we shouldn't have.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
No, we shouldn't. We were wrong and we probably will
do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I was wrong, and here he wants to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Eighty is another to call.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
It is eight to three, the issues that affect you,
and a bit of fun along the way. Matt and
Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo X eighty Innovation, Style and Design,
Have it All.

Speaker 6 (01:14:23):
News Talks ed B.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
News Talks, ed B. It is six minutes to three
right where we'll wrap this one up very shortly. A
couple of teaks to finish up. Guys, The woman the
guy was viewing on Tinder can't be up to much.
They caused him to fall asleep from Jake.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Hi, boys, welcome back. My wife is much better at
spotting talent than me, and lets me know if I'm
missing out. We're to lock especially at the beach. We
both know it's harmless, but neither has been close to
cheating on each other. So you go that works for Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Yeah, that sounds wholesome, it sounds healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
So she's going that someone beautiful over the edge on't
have a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Yep, you know, I don't know, and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
I'm trying to work out what the menu equivalent is
that because we were trying to run that with you.
It's like I do that all the time when I'm
at a restaurant.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
I'll look over Genie, looks real nice, you know that
partners it on top.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Look at what that person's ordered. Is that on the menu?

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Food envy?

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Good, right, there is where we'll leave it. And Matt
was talking about this song the greatest love story of
all time? I think, you said, Matt, No.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
I think it's a very confusing love story. And I'm
not sure what the messages, but you know, they get
back together. They both put personal ads out in the paper.
That's the old school version of this, the veg and
very specific tastes, and then they meet at o'melly's and
it's all good. He recognizes the curve of her face, Yeah,
lovely because he is into champagne.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Yeah, they were both up for a good time. Though
you look at those lyrics and say they were party people.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
For the rest of Rupert Holmes's relationship with this woman
is he always checking that she's going down to put
out another personal land and another list of specific requirements.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Now, good chat that one, right, and after three o'clock,
which is going to be another good chat. Matt has
been a driving instructor.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Yeah, that's what I'm teaching my son how to drive
at the moment. And yeah, like some tips some people
out there, I think I'm doing a great, great job.
I'm actually pretty impressed with my driving instructing skills as
a parent and a write a passage for me and
my son. I love those moments as a parent. You go,
I am now teaching my son how to drive. You know,
those are big moments for me. It's like when I
first showed them Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Yeah, it's a beautiful moment.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
These are important things. But yeah, i'd love to We
want to talk about some stories of driving, being taught
to drive, how you teach your kids to drive, and
how your parents taught you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. Nine two nine two is the text number,
but a rupe it's homes to go out with it
is three minutes to three. We'll catch again soon if
you like.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Time and Taylor Adams afternoons the Volvo x eighty on
News Talk SEV.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. And we think
you're going to really like this topic. The text machine's
already gone crazy. But Matt, you or have been teaching
one of your sons or both of your sons how
to drive one of your sons.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Just one of my sons at the moment, but I'll
teach the other one. And it's been Look, it's been
one of the most rewarding things in my life. I
was looking forward to the opportunity, and so I thought
about it quite quite a lot before I did it.
And he wouldn't know this, and he doesn't listen to
the show, so he would ever know this. So don't
tell him if you run into him. But I thought
through it carefully. And he's actually been put through quite

(01:17:46):
a quite a quite a clever little program to teach
him how to drive. And I'll call it shock and or,
because I believe you've got to put them in the
difficult things. You've got to put them through the Royal
Oak roundabout as soon as you can, because the hardest
thing in driving is the multi lane roundabout. So you
don't shy away from anything. And this is my theory.
You don't put the fear into them. You put the

(01:18:09):
fear of danger. You say, you've got to be aware.
You've got to look at it here because safety is
really really important. And as a parent, you boy, you
worry about your kids driving, but you don't go this
is a really hard but to do. You just talk
them through, you know. I went on Google Google Maps
and I looked down and I tracked things out for
the for what I was going to say, and I

(01:18:30):
took them to a car park and it was over
the break, so there was no one there. I grabbed
a lot of road cones because it's turned road cones
on the road in Aokland. So I just grabbed a
bunch of roadcrans. Everywhere they line them up all on
a big line, so you can take every second one
out and it doesn't make any difference and set up
sort of a young Driver of the Year scalour up

(01:18:50):
young driver of the Year type situation.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Where did you do that it's just an empty car park.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
An empty car park. Yeah, this is good and set up.
You know, a bunch of parking situations with the with
the cones. Parallel parking got them doing that, even the
difficult other way parallel park.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
You should be selling this program and you should be
opening this day.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
I think I'll do a pamphlet on it. But I
was really proud of how it went. But I'd like
to hear people's tips on it as well because the
ongoing process. I mean, so many people out there have
taught their kids to drive, and everyone's been taught to
drive by someone at some point, and so everyone's got
a story about it, because you know, I remember and

(01:19:27):
my driving lessons went pretty terribly at the start. But
back then it was a manual. When you were coming
up to an intersection, you had to start indicating you
had to change gears. So there was a clutch involved
you had to break. There was a lot to do
as well as as well as the very complicated steering
part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Technology wasn't saving you back then.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
I remember heading towards an intersection once and I was
so concentrated on doing the gears, but I couldn't sort
that out. So I just put the clutch and we're
heading at the intersection at pace. I've got the indicating right,
but I'm failing to break. In fact, they accidented to
accelerate and we hit the corner at pace and my
dad pulls the had to pull the handbrake on. We
skid around the corner. You know, I've had none of that,

(01:20:09):
none of that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
They would have been exciting for both parties though, But now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
There's no such thing as a hell park. I mean,
like a hell start yep, because you know that. You
know my cars got automatic you know, automatic handbrake.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
You change no gears for that matter, Get about gears.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
I was a column shift on the steering wheel of
my Ford CORTEENA.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Yeah, you know, so that was the huge test, the
old column change.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Yeah. So wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty tips
for teaching kids how to drive the car. What's the
most important thing should you go to driving instructors? I
think I think personally I don't want to put driving
instructors out of business, but I think it's appearance duty
to teach the kids how to drive.

Speaker 20 (01:20:48):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Gave up on me, gave up on me pretty quick. Actually,
for some reason, he decided to try and teach me
how to drive in Hamna Springs while we're on holiday.
And it was the busy summer season. So if you
know Hamna Springs, is you going kind of pass the
poll towards the golf course. But there's not much parking,
so there were cars parked on either side, very narrow,
and my spatial awareness wasn't quite up to park. It
was my first time in a blood column change as well,

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and he keeps saying, Tyler, getting close to those cars,
You're getting close, You're getting close. And I had a
bloody wing mirror ah, and Dad was screaming at me, saying,
why I told you you were too close? Get out?
Had to leave a note, do the insurance thing. And
after that when he said his partner Chrissy, and see,
Chrisy's going to teach you from this point, because.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
That worse than when you put the hammer through the drywall.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
You had a hard time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
There was more disappointed. I'm glad that you've shared this
with me, Tyler, because when I'm driving around with my son,
I constantly think he's too close to the cars. But
I'm thinking that is that just because I'm in the
passenger seat and I have no control and I'm freaking
out about it. But this is making me say he
needs the center line.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
See, I reckon spatial awareness. It's not ingrained. You have
to kind of learn that, particularly in the car, and
I thought I had plenty of room. I talk about
multiple wings, and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
When you're driving in the States, it goes completely the
other way and you end up in really really bad
positions as well. Yes, it's not natural to where you
are in the in the road, but yeah, so eight
hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two. Let's let's
work out the best way to teach our our kids
to drive. And let's name and shame our parents for

(01:22:19):
poor their poor job, their poor job of teaching us.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
This is going to be good. It is twelve past three.
Back in the moth.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
I never heard teach a biological offspring how to drive.
Took me two hours to learn that. Get anyone else
that breathes auction to do it. It was two of
the worst hours of my life. From Kate.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Thanks No, I agree with Kate because, as I mentioned before,
Dad City couldn't teach me to drive. After I took
off some wing mirrors and hamna springs. But Mom did
the same. When she taught me to drive, she got
really upset. It was raining, just a little bit of drizzle,
but she kept yelling at me to put my windscreen
wipers on. I was like, Mom, it's just a bit
of drizzle. I can see screaming at me. So at
that point it was Dad's partner, Chrissy, and then private

(01:23:00):
driving instructors.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Well if she if the instructor Tyler tells you to
put the one screenwapers on, put the bloody windscreen wipers on,
you know you're learning.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Yeah, but I was paying good money for that, and
you know Mom didn't know what she was talking about.
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,
uh Andy, how are you?

Speaker 7 (01:23:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
Good? Good?

Speaker 8 (01:23:21):
It's interesting subject. I would say, if you can, you know,
if you can, if you can do it, just get
a massive paddock and uh because my dad just yeah,
he couldn't teach me. He just says, uh, here's a paddock,

(01:23:43):
the big I think the biggest paddock we had with
fifty acres. Then the next old neighbor, the next old
neighbor had a paddock of about one hundred and fifty acres.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Next situation. In that situation, Andy, you can start teaching
kids to drive from about five years old. Okay, if
you got a bad exp like.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
That, oh yeah, you wouldn't go for it.

Speaker 8 (01:24:03):
He goes. The one on the one in the middle
is the break.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
That's well, that arguably is the most important one.

Speaker 6 (01:24:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:24:13):
Yeah, so you know, you know when you get well,
I would say, teach them. If you've got kids, teach them.
And motorbikes are involved, you need to teach them about that,
because yeah, the sign I was on the motorbike, it
was just full throttle.

Speaker 21 (01:24:33):
And straying to a ditch.

Speaker 12 (01:24:39):
Yeah yeah, bit of a cartwheel, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Yeah, that's a good one to start on the paddock
as well. But I mean, I guess, well, yeah, but
I agree with you in the starting the paddock, and
I found an empty car park, as I've saying before,
and laid out some road cones. But I think there's
also something to be said for just getting them on
the road as well. So once once I work out
with the breakers, then then I think there's there's a

(01:25:04):
trial by fire apart to it as well.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
I agree a little bit of put them in the deep,
not too much. We're talking about driving here and you've
got to be safe. But you know, like as you mentioned,
you don't make a big deal about the Royal Oak
roundabout which has multiple lanes. Yeah, but you get the
mind at pretty quick and it's a bit of a
test of hey, this is as bad it's going to get.
After the fact, once I've done it, you say, that's it,
that's as bad as it's going to get.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Well, what I did as I took my son on
the motorway pretty early on and I said, guess what,
And I sort I played to his ego and I said,
you know your dad from your granddad, my dad from Dunedin. Yeah,
he's too scared to go on the motorways in Auckland.
And you're already, you're already, you're already doing better than grandad.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Reverse psychology and I love it. Yeah, Andy, thank you
very much.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Ever got avo oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call? Guys, remember those bunny hops
when you didn't realize the clutch was in properly?

Speaker 6 (01:25:54):
Yeah, or what.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
About your dad screaming stop riding the clutch or you've
got like years later, you'd come home and you'd park
in the driveway and the whole place would stink of
a clutch because you've just been riding the clutch all
the way up Fulton Road in my in my case.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Good memory, but how embarrassing at the lights when you're
when you're back at the clutch and then you stall
the car. Anyone's looking at you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
And yeah, doing the cowards he'll start whill you just
hold it on the clutch.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Yeah, good memories, Lee, How are you fine?

Speaker 19 (01:26:30):
I'm coming at it from a totally different perspective. Brought
my children and two of my step children to drive
on the Chatham Island, Okay, driving a land river. So
I learned all about four wheel drive off roading, avoiding
sheep and cattle and all that sort of thing. With

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my step sons, I had two of them give and
started them off. I had one inflexible rules. They were
allowed to stall at once. One of them stalled twice,
he got out and behind the wheel and his brother
took over. You've never seen two teenagers get the grips

(01:27:18):
with the clutch.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Yes, yeah, a better competition.

Speaker 19 (01:27:23):
And of course my daughter also learned out to back
a trailer at the age of sixteen, which rather astonished
her fellow pupils at at boarding school, which is another
Various things you learn on the Chathams that are not
quite applicable. But the thing is when as my parents

(01:27:47):
and big sister did to me, taught me to drive,
then had a session with a driving instructor to polish
up the shaky bits for the less desirable bit, and
that it failed through. My boys failed through every time.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Love it teach them on the Chatham. You'd recommend that
for everyone league just head to the Chantems. It's nice
and open. Not too many cars on the road, no, and.

Speaker 19 (01:28:14):
Of course lots of off roading as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
A few drunk drivers on the road in the Chatham's Islands, though,
aren't you've got to You've got to deal with that
coming back from the pub.

Speaker 19 (01:28:24):
No one one local believing policeman. Actually she was my cousin.
She used the station herself, just up the access road
from the Parliament and there's the young guy island that
was leaving. Should stop them and say you've got a choice,
give them your keys or breathing.

Speaker 25 (01:28:46):
That's that's funny, because I talked to a cop that
there were chedn Islands cop once and he was saying
it was real, you know, the policing there because you're
only the only cop there is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
You've got a sort of a massage and the behavior
on the island. You can't go too highly because you're
the only one there. Hey, thank you so much for
your for your appreciate.

Speaker 19 (01:29:09):
It, most welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Have a good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
You go get on get on a get on a
ferry with your cars.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
And quick tease to the break high guys. Don't forget
your emergency breaking at speed through puddles ideal. I used
a large outdoor car park to teach my girls use
the car without all the fancy braking systems. Gave them
a real good feeling of what's needed and what happens
when you might lose control From Joe, Oh that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Yeah, you remember all these sayings that you had from
back in the day. The emergency braking, Yeah, through a puddle.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
And turn into a so so that was a thing
that that your your parent, whoever it was. You'd just
be driving along in an empty car park and you
wouldn't know when it was going to happen. They just
whack open the emergency brake and see. Yeah, that pretty well.
Is that what we're talking about?

Speaker 22 (01:29:55):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
No, No, I think I think it's like stop before this. Ah,
We're not.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Just checking up the handbrake. We'll see how you're going
to handle this kid. Oh, eight hundred eighty to eighty
is the number of is the text number? Twenty three
past three back in the mine. Yeah, it sounds like
a good program.

Speaker 11 (01:30:15):
Ian.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
How are you hey? Good? Thanks guys.

Speaker 21 (01:30:18):
Yeah, what we found is that doing a combination of
the boat of both of them has been the best
for us. Our son's just just got us restricted, so
he's pretty happy. And we had a combination of driving
lessons every second week and then going out with myself
or was mother in between that time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Yeah, right, because because I think there's one thing that
the like. There's being a good driver, and there's also
passing the driving tests, and so I think it's quite
handy to have the driving instructor involved in there at
some point because you know, they'll they'll tell you the
things that the driving tester is looking for.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:30:54):
I think one of the key things so as well
is that we all think the great drive is right.
But I mean went for the last time we looked
at the road code thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
Oh yes, yeah, absolutely, my son was stalking through it,
my son was studying for it. I realized that I
didn't know a lot of the main things.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Yeah, well they change it all the time, right in
terms of what the trade should be, or how far
do you go past school bus when it stopped. They
keep up doing that, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 21 (01:31:21):
And sometimes my son, when I'd take him out, he'd
be advising me and what the actual correct mobiles worth,
which is a little bit scary. But I think one
of the things is that we all have bad habits
as well, right after all these years of driving, and
if we just teach our kids, then we're also passing
on our bad habits. So I think having the driving
instructure and that's their livelihood, and just having the conversation within.

(01:31:44):
Once he came back from a lesson, bit of a debrief,
what did he learn He get to the little student
car where he's waited out of five for each section,
and what the next lesson is going to entail when
better speech things up. He was really confident with that.
And then when I'm taking him out and we're basically
going through what the instructors we taught them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Yeah, And ess interestingly, what you say about you know
what we don't know because I found teaching my son
that I think it's making me a better driver. Because
I'm trying to describe exactly what you're supposed to do.
I'm sort of saying, well, your luck into the and
we you know, because because it's really you know, things
like you know, entering in intersection, when you're exits, as

(01:32:23):
as you blocked all all those kinds of things, and
sometimes we can get a little bit. Yeah, there's a
lot of gray nature, right, Yeah, there's a lot of
gray area driving that you do that that you don't
want to pass on to your kids, as what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Yeah, And and when you put your kid with the
professional instructor, were you surprised by what they put them through,
because I imagine that changes on a regular basis too.

Speaker 21 (01:32:46):
It's actually all the same sort of stuff that we
learned all those decades ago, so it's pretty much similar.
I guess the difference to when I learned was that
there's so many more cars on the road. I mean,
we live in Windy Hills and Warrington as well. And
my son driving through some of those streets, even the
street where are on cast both sides in this buses

(01:33:07):
it's a bus route as well. So these are sort
of things that I didn't have to deal with, you know,
He's dealt with being a menu and a boys drove
HIMNU where she still have the manual. But he's so
that's the challenge.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
I think.

Speaker 21 (01:33:18):
The great thing is that he's using his mum's car,
which is new and it's got all the flesh safety features,
which is great, But on the flip side, there's just
so many more cars on there's so many more dodgy driving.
He's got the face than what we did.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Yeah, and I was thinking about that because my car's
got blind spot detection, right, and so if you're teaching
a kid to drive in that blind spot detection, I
was concerned in that he would then look at a
mirror that doesn't have it and not see the light
and then do it. You know what I mean. I
think I think you should learn to drive in a
car without that stuff, and you should learn to back
without a reversing camera. If I think, I think the

(01:33:53):
reversing camera's a bit of a trap myself, because you can't.
You don't see as much around it. So yeah, I
totally agree.

Speaker 21 (01:33:59):
Like he said, think that's that's spot on because he
was doing the parallel parks using the mirror and he
still couldn't get them did right because it's not perfect
that camera. Yeah, you actually judge in especial awareness of
where your car is compared to the curb. So you
had to do a bit of both there to learn
that that skill.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Yeahah, yeah, good on you, and well good luck with
all that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Yep, you sound like a great parent. Now I've got
a bit of a learner's driver's license test in front
of me. Matt, Oh no, Can I put you through
the paces of a couple of questions here?

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Yeah, and I'll answer them to can I reverse? When
I said, I know obviously I'm on analyst.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've developed the bring it on it
is flawless. You the best driving instructor in the country. Right,
So first question, how long should you signal before passing
another vehicle? I'll give you the options one second, two seconds,
three seconds or d only signal if there's another vehicle
behind you or one coming towards you three seconds three

(01:35:00):
seconds submitt correct of course it is right. That's only
one of fifty seven. It's still forty seven more questions.

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I'm concerned that you had to check that.

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Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Thank you very much, Rayleen. We are talking about teaching
your children how to drive, Matt, you're going through it
at the moments.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Yeah, that's right, teaching my son and doing a great job.
Thank you for asking.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Now I've been going, well, I've got a kind of
learner's driver's license test in front of me. Do you
want the next question now or soon?

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Okay, and kind of an advance, can I tell you
I guarantee I'll get it right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
You're not going to get this one. If you get
this one, it's almost games hit and match. Well, there's
another fifty seven questions ago, right, so on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
So you've found the hardest one.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Yeah, I've found one that you're not going to get. Okay,
just just put that out of your mind now on
the road. A vehicle should not send out visible smoke
for more than judy, do you want the options? Yep,
A twelve seconds, B ten seconds, C eight seconds or
D six seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
Well that's a that's erroneous question. So it's ten seconds
on the road obviously, But but it doesn't mean as
it talking about an inspection, because in an inspection it's five.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Seconds, so B ten seconds. Let's put this in and see.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Yeah, but it hasn't given the does it say on
the road? In the question you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Added, you right, a vehicle can only produce smoke for
what did you say when you're getting an inspection?

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
An inspection it's five seconds for.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Anxmum of five seconds in an inspection and ten seconds
on the road. Smoky vehicles cause unnecessary, unnecessary pollution. This
also applies to smoke caused by loss of traction, which
is itself an offense or there's you know.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
That's a rubbish question because it's not me. It's not
did it define with a inspection? On the Rabbish Christ,
I call him to I mean I got right, and
more than right, I got right, double right, But still
call the whole thing into question.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
You're right, I'm going to find one that you got.
It's going to get your man Georgie. How are you?

Speaker 15 (01:38:20):
Hello, Tyler?

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
Hello, Matt, Hello, how are you?

Speaker 26 (01:38:24):
Good things? I think it should be five seconds on
the road.

Speaker 9 (01:38:28):
Okay, it's ten seconds on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
Well it's interesting that you can get a wheel going
for ten seconds before they sting. Yeah, apparently, I.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Mean I had have we had to sting someone for
five seconds, you know, take the cops three seconds stick the.

Speaker 15 (01:38:44):
True Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Yeah, Hey, so you think you think you should that
that they should kids should have to learn an a
manual car.

Speaker 26 (01:38:51):
Yes, well, I don't think they should, but I think
it's a great idea. My son kept his manual camriy
to teach his third so he taught the other two
in it, and they did well. They had one driving
lesson from it, and you know instructor and they both
got a first time round. Here'll be sixteen next month,

(01:39:14):
so he'll be starting soon. And yeah, it's a good.

Speaker 15 (01:39:19):
Skill to have.

Speaker 26 (01:39:19):
I think I learned in a manual car, and this
son will boast my son. I don't know about the
other one. This my oldest son learned in a manual car.
I taught him and I don't remember how many instructed
tests he had. He was the second time round getting
his license in Graymouth. But these two boys got it

(01:39:42):
straight away, and they also did a defensive driving course
which meant they could get their license walk.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Yeah, you get it quicker, don't you. Yeah, I mean
you're driving in a manual, as I mean, it's obviously
so much, so much harder, But I think it's I
think it's I mean, I wonder, I wonder if you
should in degrees of difficulty. It's kind of like training,
you know, like training reels on a bike, although they
say that's a bad way to teach a kid to
ride ride a bike, but like, you know, learn the
road rules and everything in an automatic and then teach

(01:40:13):
them in a manual after.

Speaker 26 (01:40:14):
That, because that would be a good idea, because.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Because my son going on the road and the automatic,
you know, all he has to think about is you know,
where he is on the road, indicating looking around, checking
his blind spots and all that kind of stuff, not
writing the club, having mess screaming at him for writing
the clutch.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Well, they changed it because it used to be because
I did this, is that if you learnt in a
manual for you're restricted, you could drive whatever. But if
you learned in an automatic, it would say on your
license that you can only drive automatic until you did
your full and then once you'd got your full license,
it didn't matter whether it was auto or manual. You
could drive whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
Someone on it. Someone will know this. There is something
a little bit weird how they do that now about
manuals and automatics and when you can and can't set
your test on it. Yeah, someone will pointed out. I
just someone was telling me this other day, but.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
It blew my mind that just because once you get
to the full license, even if you've only driven automatic
all through that process, that you can still drive menual
it doesn't matter. But then when you get your restricted
it was on the back of your license.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Yeah, what are you allowed to like? Because on my
car right, it's got like this cool little Formula one paddles,
so you can flick it onto manual triptronic and you
just you can change the gears on your on your
steering wheel. Yeah that's pretty cool. Yeah yeah, yeah, sorry, Georgie, Sorry, sorry, Georgie.
We started talking to.

Speaker 26 (01:41:34):
A Sometimes I'm gone and I keep talking to you
and you're not there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Well, thank you so much for your call. We we
will sometimes we drift off and the things.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Always a pleasure, Georgie, thank you so Yeah. So, if
anyone does know about the old manual automatic rule, does
it still exist? I just thought that was weird that
when it met it for the restricted.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
But I pride myself and knowing everything. But I don't
know that exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
Got you there?

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
To't know?

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
One hundred eighty eighty is the number to call? Nine
to nine too, is the text number. It's twenty to four.

Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
Experience awaits news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
They'd be good afternoon. It is seventeen to four.

Speaker 4 (01:42:14):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
We asked the question before, does the rule still exist
that if you learn to drive your restricted license and
a manual automatic, does that become a condition on your license?

Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
What you said it? And if you sait it in
an auto?

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
And so Rob, do you know the answer to this question?

Speaker 13 (01:42:30):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:42:30):
Look, unfortunately I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
Mate.

Speaker 18 (01:42:32):
I'm about to I'm about to go down that pathway
with my sixteen year old.

Speaker 11 (01:42:39):
He's just got learned.

Speaker 18 (01:42:42):
On a manual two thousand and nine Swift.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
And what an a manual two thousand and nine Suzuki Swift.

Speaker 18 (01:42:52):
Yeah, Yeah, we actually.

Speaker 10 (01:42:53):
Down run and.

Speaker 18 (01:42:59):
So we had a we saw it on an auction
side bought. I was actually not a bad little car,
and I think it's an ideal car for him to
learn on a manual. You know, we've already we've already
started had a few, had a few lessons on it,
and yeah, I think, look, you know when everything is
going to take practice and we we've got a very

(01:43:21):
clear plan to to and there's certain goals that he
needs to demonstrate to me that he's safe in in
in executing before we go out on the open road.
So I mean, you know, like this is this is uh,
you know, this is this is no racking.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
Yeah, it's quite something sitting in the passenger seat when
you've got this card that you're worried about them for
a start, and but you're also as much as you
love them, you don't want to trust them with your life.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
It's a fine balance. Rob, How does your child feel
about having to learn an E manual because it wasn't
really a choice for us, right whereas nowadays it's kind
of weird to come across a manual.

Speaker 18 (01:44:07):
Yeah, that's that's an interesting point too. And you know
these days you know or the automatic sense to be
the go to choice. But ironically he came to me
and said that he wanted to learn in a manual.
And when I press him as to why, he said

(01:44:29):
that a lot of his friends are learning and manuals,
and so we so, so we just pushed on and
and uh and and and went down that pathway for him,
you know. And and the other thing is that you know,
because this this, this the t turkey doesn't have you
cruise control, you know. The one thing I'm reiterating to

(01:44:50):
him is that the gearbox is his cruise control. Like
he can only go so fast in a certain year,
you know, before he needs to change gears. So we're
using that analogy to help him wrong his way.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
Yeah, well, it's my ex girlfriend and known that I
heard had the stereo really loud and how to screaming
up the road in second gear. I think she thought
it was an automatic. But hey, there was an interesting
story in the news recently where someone tried to I
can't remember where it was, it was somewhere in New Zealand,
but these people looked out and this woman tried to
steal their car. So got the keys and got in

(01:45:26):
the car, but then it was a manual, so she
couldn't she couldn't get away with the car. So basically
having a manual's is sort of a semi security system. Yeah,
so I've got the answer this question we were asking
before I'm here. Look, I'm on the air, I'm on
the ZTA dot GOVNT dot n z YEP. And that says,

(01:45:49):
if you set your restricted practical test in an automatic vehicle,
you'll have a condition on your license that means you
can only drive automatic vehicles. This condition doesn't apply if
you have a supervisor with you. But there are situations.
So you get a job, you're an eighteen year old
and you get some kind of job where you have
to drive a you know, like a mini van, like
a you know, mini tra or something. You're having to
move something around. A lot of those will end up

(01:46:10):
being in menuals. So it's a good thing to learn.
I'm going to teach my son manual eventually if I
can find one.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
When was the last time you drove a manual?

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
The only reason I bring this up was I was
shifting furniture and I rented a truck and it was manual,
and that was the last time I did it, but no, no,
it wasn't actually, but you know, I started driving in
a column shift. I love them, but there's something quite
cool about driving in a manual if you feel more
set to the road until you get stuck in traffic

(01:46:38):
on the Auckland Motorway. You have to write the whole thing,
the whole drive, buddy, hops and store. That's why automatics
took over, was for sitting in traffic.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number
to call, Jason, how are you this afternoon? Now you
reckon that parents shouldn't be teaching their kids how to drive.

Speaker 27 (01:46:59):
Well, I think a mixture of both, but definitely not
just appearance, because the person you will teach will pick
up the bad habits that you've accumulated over the years.
Obviously they have to pass when they do it, test
and not show those bad habits, but they tend to
come back. And I find in a very strange phenomen phenomenon.

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
There we go.

Speaker 27 (01:47:27):
That a lot of people here because they drive all
to magic, they don't bother putting their handbrakes on when
they part their vehicles, which we're dangerous.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
Yeah, I'm with you. There that's crazy. I'd never just
put it in the park without the handbrake on.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
If But this goes my point about cars. Modern cars
make you terrible at driving. My car's got an automatic handbrake,
and I was driving my partner's car the other day
and it wouldn't go anywhere and she goes because the
handbake's on, you muppet, And I was thinking, so I
ever agreased as a driver to the point where I
no longer.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Control of the vehicle.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:48:04):
I also think that people should learn situation manual because
you're at one with the vehicle. You're understanding engine and timing,
and you're more at one with that and the road.
But you know, I come from London and I've not
been there since two thousand and eight. But if anyone

(01:48:25):
goes on holiday from New Zealand, the people who've got
just purely automatic licenses will not be able to drive abroad.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
So you're saying in the UK, it's still mainly manuals,
mainly manual.

Speaker 27 (01:48:39):
Yeah, it's very rare to frindle automatic.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Yeah, Jason, thanks very much for giving us a buzz. Yeah,
I didn't know that. I mean, I had suspicion that
they had more manuals there, but primarily manual.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
That is surprising how this six says, Hey, bros, I
bought my teenage son and ex army armored personnel carrier
on tank tracks. He can do anything he wants on
the road. That's from me because he bought himself a tank. Yeah,
I think he's he's being facetious. I mean yeah, I
mean you can do everything you want, you know, roll
over a few cars, but eventually the cops will come
and crack that lit and taisy.

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
Yeah, when you get five stars like coming for you. Oh,
one hundred and eighty, ten eighty. It is ten to four.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
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everything in between. Matt and Tyler Afternoons with the Volvo
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Speaker 19 (01:49:37):
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Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
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Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
EDB seven to four Jazz, Good afternoon. Now you got
into a bit of trouble for driving a manual on
an auto license.

Speaker 5 (01:50:12):
I did seventeen years after I got my life out
far so here. So my old man taught me to
drive a manual when I started learning to drive. But
I was too I was too nervous to sit my
restricted in it because I didn't want to trail. I
just wanted to get my license. I was eighteen at
the time, and to make sure.

Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
And I knew that it be.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
And it's terrifying, isn't it at that point, chairs though,
it is. You're so scared, Yeah, you're so scared. I
was almost the most nervous I've been in my life
as sitting by driving teas because you knew it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
Was either a hill start that you had to do
or a parallel park, and we all knew both of
those things were far easier, and an automatic and an.

Speaker 5 (01:50:52):
Automatic exactly, So I said it in an automatic and look,
I'm going to you know, it's been embarrassing. I'm still
sitting on my restricted license now and I'm coming up
to the age of thirty seven. But yeah, a year
and a half ago, I got fined because my hu
since truck as a manual and I live out in
the country and it's much comfortable to drive a manual

(01:51:13):
in the country than it is in Alkland City. Yeah,
and yeah, I got pulled over and got a fine
for driving on because it stays on my license only
to use an automatic transmission, and because of that they
gave me a fine.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
And what makes no sense to me is that the
automatic restriction is lifted once you get a full license.
So once you got your full license, even if you
set your full license in an automatic, suddenly you there's
no logic, is there that I'd love to know logic
of that.

Speaker 5 (01:51:41):
And if you've got your full yeah, you're just expected
to know how to drive a manual because you've got
your full It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
Yeah, And what was the fine for in the end, Jazz?
Was it a couple hundred bucks?

Speaker 4 (01:51:50):
Was it?

Speaker 19 (01:51:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:51:52):
I think it was one hundred and twenty I think,
and women break the bag, but it's not the point.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
And when Jazz is gone, Oh she just dropped off.
I was going to ask her when she's going to
get around to getting civil license.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
She's done. Well, how are you mate? We've got about
ninety seconds.

Speaker 19 (01:52:09):
That's a good good welcome back, thank you. I had
the opposite problem. My son used to rest the cards
in his mid teen so when I started to teach
him to drive, he hit the first roundabout just around
the heap and was terrifying. So there was a Volvo and.

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
Straight home.

Speaker 19 (01:52:32):
I taught him in the transit van. The manual transit van.
I've done make him a little bit more uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
It's pretty hard to get that sideways.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Yeah, the transit van, though, I mean that's a lot.
You get a good view from up there, though there's
you know, in terms of what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
It's a lot of vehicle, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:52:50):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 19 (01:52:50):
But he knows how to handle the vehicle, wasn't I
was trying to teach him about how to avoid all
the other people trying to crash it to him and
avoid the pedestrians going across the crossing. And all those
sort of things that you're supposed to be learning.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
That sounds like he knew how to handle a vehicle
at pace, but not necessarily.

Speaker 19 (01:53:08):
Yeah, still does. Unfortunately he failed his license. It's time
because he went round the round about too fast.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
There you go, you, yeah, you go? Hey, thanks so
much for you call. Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
Well, good discussion that. Look, I learned a few things there.
I don't know if you learned anything, because you are
Healing's best driving instructor.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
I hope that someone in authorities listening and that you
get your license taken off you from their lack of
knowledge you had. I just hope that when we leave
there's a couple of couple of police officers waiting outside
to take your license off you because your lack of
knowledge on the road code I find terrifying.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
And if anyone wants the program by Matt Heath, it's
in development. It's going to be up for sale very
soon and near you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
How to be the Greatest parental Driving Instructor.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
We'll catch it tomorrow.

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