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October 29, 2024 • 12 mins

Angie catches up with the legendary Jimmy Barnes, the man with 9 lives, in between touring Aussie on the Cold Chisel Big 5-0 anniversary tour. They chat the Summer Concert Series he's bringing to NZ over the summer, his health updates over the last year, featuring 2 surgeries, how it's been playing with the boys for the last 50 years and how drummer Charley Dreyton has fitted in over the last 10 years.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Foster.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to Radio Hodar Keys Off the Record podcast with
Angeline mc gray.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Currently in the midst of the Cultures fiftieth Anniversary tour,
bouncing back from his hospital bed. In the course bringing
that Cold Chizel Show to New Zealand and summertime for
the summer concert series, we're talking to Jimmy Barnes. Get
a Jimmy, Jimmy Barnes, I've just been just now been
handed actually a copy of your Highways and Byways biography.

(00:30):
What a biography? And the thing that the first thing
I see here is that it says here you struggle
with ADHD. Now, Jimmy, that makes sense because you're such
a blimin busy man. You don't stop, do you hYP Well.
It also says here that you know your friendly little
staff infection that wanted to kill you. Now you've had
a time of it. Jimmy, you're not stopping. Do you

(00:51):
think that is the hyperactivity? You've just got stuff to do.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
No, I've got lots to do. I mean, I'm one
of those people. I think hyperactivities. That's only thing. I
think everybody there has got some sort of you know,
some sort of diagnosed is waiting to happen. But but
I just I went and got diagnosed just because I
was interested. Because a couple of my my kids in
brand kids are a bit hyper and and they said, yeah,
you're definitely. I'm ADHD and hyperactive. So but but the

(01:16):
thing is, I think it's a good thing. It's I
think it's a bit of a bit of my superpower.
It's given me lots of energy over the years. You know,
I'm one of those people who like to continually, you know,
keep themselves busy, whether it's I've made a new I've
made a new record, I've made a you know, I'm
on tour with coaches.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Well I've got a book out all at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
So it's you know, it's one of those you know,
I just like to be busy. And then and as
soon as I as soon as I sort of put
my feet up for a minute, I start thinking of
new things to do.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
So yeah, hey, well I'd just like to put my
hand up join the club. Myself and my daughters have
been out diagnosed the same, so you're in good company.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's very common, and I think I think it's sort
of not a big problem. It's sort of it's interesting
to know. I'm actually not taking any medication for it,
but I think it's an interesting thing to know.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
And uh, and there was a really there was a
while there.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
There's a you know, because I'm sixty eight now, but
there was for a long time there. I couldn't focus
and I couldn't finish projects where I could start, I
could start them all. But I think I've learned to
manage it enough now where I can sort of, you know,
keep that energy focused on long enough to actually do
what I want.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
To do, which is really you've had your emergency hYP
operation obviously after leaving here, after leaving Dunedin. Now that
was a couple of months ago. You're a cat with
nine lives, aren't you?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
To me? Absolutely well, I'll tell you what happened. Because
over Christmas last year, like November last year, I did
the Mushroom Mushroom Records fiftieth anniversary thing, and I collapsed
after that because I didn't know what was wrong. When
I went to the hospital, I was in critical condition
and they found I had a staff infection and it
went to my heart. I had to have open heart

(02:53):
surgery and it went to my back. I'd back surgery
all in the same week, and they said to me, oh,
you know, you're really lucky I've got it all. Yeah,
I think you're so lucky that I didn't go into
your hip, you know, because that's quite often where they
can go. And I went great, and I went out
and did all the phizyo I was supposed to do,
built my strength up, and went out on tour again,
and of course I started, you know, by the time

(03:14):
I got hit New Zealand for that last you know,
uh Less and Wood tour, I was I was starting
to feel sore on my leg and my hip, and
I'm going, oh man, what's going on here? You know,
I pulled something and literally by the time I got
to Dune Eden, I could hardly move. I was doing
the show and then i'd be you know, rushed back
to the hotel and i'd be just you know, icing

(03:35):
it up and then hot bass and trying to stop
the pain and all that sort of stuff. So I
was an agony and I managed to finish the tour,
flew to back to Australia the next day, and you know,
I was literally taken to hospital the day I got back.
I got back that that night and I went in
the next morning and it was critical again, and of

(03:55):
course that the lucky staff infection.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I hadn't gone to my hip.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I had actually had gone to hip and was hiding
there the whole time, and so I'd caught it just
as it was flaring up again. It could have gone
to my brain, it could have gone to my heart again.
So I was you know, as much as it's a
bit of bad luck, I feel like I was.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
I was really lucky.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Culturezzl's Cheap Ryan on HODIKEI for twelve o'clock Rock, joined
by Jimmy Barnes of Cultures Will Fame. Jimmy, of course
we were just talking. You've had to jump out of
hospital straight into rehearsals and on stage celebrating fifty years
currently with cult Chizzle touring around Ozzie.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
How has that process gone thus far? Being celebrating fifty
years of Coultuisel.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
You know, I said to the boys, this is going
to be the best tour we've ever done, and so far,
touch Wood it is. It's incredible. Well, I mean the
band's you know, really really on form. We're really you know,
really smashing it. We're you know, playing as good as
we've ever done. And I've got to tell you, the
audiences we've had for fifty years probably the lowdest audiences

(04:53):
I've ever heard in my life. I've never heard an
audience sing from start to finish every show like this.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
It's almost drowning out the band. Incredible.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
That is so ice. I was actually curious to know
whether you get moshes at a at a cult as
the concert.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know the moshpet.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
You looking at the moshpet though, and those people, you know,
those people there who are like seventy years old, eighty
years old there.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
It's incredible. Oh that is icce and right through and
the bringing.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Their grandkids and their great grandkids, and it's a very
cross it's a big mix of audience.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
There was.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
There's some women who came to a Sydney show who
learned about Cold Chizel in their forties and that was
fifty years ago, so they're ninety they're at the gig.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
That is unbelievable, so unbelievable. And they started listening to
the cultures when they were forty.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Telling the difference in the feeling when you're stepping out
on stage solo, you know, and you've done it at
like the Sydney Olympics closing, you know, to wing you're
stepping out on stage with col Chizel, I.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Mean walking into the rehearsal room with Cold Chizel. Every
single time, it's from the minute we start we start playing,
it feels comfortable to me. This is the band I
learned to sing singing with, you know scene when I
joined Colchis and I learned everything about music from them.
I learned everything about life with those guys there. My
brothers Don wrote some of the best songs that ever
been written by an Australian songwriter, right I think, And

(06:11):
I was lucky enough to be the singer of those songs.
So to every time we walk into that room or
into that that you know, that group, it just immediately feels,
you know, not not comfortable, but where belong?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
And then how do you feel? I mean, you're celebrating
fifty years and you've got Charlie who's amazing on the drums.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, you know, we when Steve died it was about
thirteen years ago. Now we we thought, you know, because
cultures has always been the sum of the members, you know,
was only as good as each member. Of the band is,
you know, and it's a combination of all of us
that makes us great. When Steve died, we thought we'd
never play again. And Charlie was struggling with his own
losses at the time. He was he was married to

(06:51):
Chrissy Ampleton and Chris was Chrissy was dying. She had
MS and cancer and he was nursing her through that.
And he's wrote to Chrissy about about about so what
Coultures are going to do. And Chrissy said to him
way back then, she said, when they need a drummer,
I think they'll call you. And and we didn't know this,
and we actually did and Charlie, Charlie came and joined us.

(07:15):
And I think Charlie helped us heal from losing Steve,
and we are helping Charlie, you know, heal from losing Chrissy.
And together, you know, we've turned out grief and the
joy and we you know, like he's one of he's
one of the best roof drummers in the world.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
You know, he's the guy who played on Love Shack
from h you know what I mean. He's an incredible drummer. Yeah,
played with Richard's played with Paul Simon.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
He's just such a great drummer and such a great
energy and a great musician to have in the band
that he's brought something new to the band.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
And so, you know, going from.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
A position where we thought we'd never play again, I
think we're probably playing better than we ever have.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
So that's a real gift.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, we're going into the third Cultures all song today
cultures's caseund On Hodaky with the n G three for
Cultures of the twelve o'clock Rock, we had cheap Wine.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
We kicked it off with Riven.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Now, Jimmy, you're doing your fiftieth anniversary tour currently in Ossie,
how do you go about choosing tunes from that back
catalog of fifty years the.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Song see these songs we're you know, fifty years of
a catalog. You know, we've selected the songs that mean
the most tours. You know, every time you play them
they jump right for different reasons.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
That's the thing. I think we're so comfortable.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
With what we're doing now as individuals and as the
band that the songs are probably being played better than
they've ever been played before. And judging by the reaction
that the audience is having to them. I think that's
probably true. I think that that continual growth is what
makes makes you know. That's why we're still here after
fifty years. That's why I'm still singing after being on
the road for fifty years. Is I'm still learning and

(08:53):
there's still stuff I want to get better at. You know,
if the conditions go right by the end of the
tour and we might even think about making a record,
I don't know yet. Well, Cultures will make another record.
It will probably be the best record we've ever made.
I know that I've just made a record that that's
Clinic come out next year, which is I personally think
is the best record I've ever made.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
So that that that theory about.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Getting better as you go along and you know your
best works yet to come, I think is really true
for us.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, you're coming to New Zealand of course for the
summer concert tour fits Young Soupoor and Queenstown with ice
House and Ever Clear. Is there anything you can tell
me you hear to those shows that you're looking forward to, Well, you.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Know, I think the bill's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I mean ice House, you know, ice Iba Davies an
ice House I has been friends of ours in the
early days of Coaches that we were managed by the
same management team and we sort of shared an office
and you know, and you know, one of the earliest
you know flowers before they became ices film clips was
made in my house.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Some were all old friends and we've got a lot
of respect for ever.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So it's really great to be doing these shows in
New Zealand with them, you know, Big Runger Big. We've
watched Big, you know, as an artist for a long
time from Australia and you and through dear friends, through
you know, Neil Finn and all that I've seen seen
her career blossom and she's an incredible artist and really
looking forward to being on the on on stage with
her and Aperclear. I remember seeing it but Clear when

(10:12):
they opened up for Silver Chair many years ago, and
I just thought there was such a great.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Dirty rock and rock, three piece roll band with great songs.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
So when they put this bill together, I just thought
it was perfect bill that we you know, it was
going to be a great days entertainment. We wouldn't want
to go to New Zealand without bringing the perfect show.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I was just chatting to actually from everclear. He's a
he's a life coach now, so you can maybe you know,
get a bunch of sessions backstage.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Going listen, he can probably give me a few lessons.
I need all the coach and I can get well.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I saw that you were just hanging out in the
vines with our very own Sam Neil. Great photo that
you put up the other day.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah. Sam.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Sam's working on a on a TV show in Perth
at the time, and he's a dear friend of mine.
We're actually when we come down to Queenstown, I'm going
to go and spend some time at Sam.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
With ADDIE's winery.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Oh perfect.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
He's a dear friend and one of one of the
great fellas and you know we of course we claim
them as our own.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
But Jimmy, it's been great to talk to you. Can't
wait for the shows. I'm glad that you're back, fighting
fit and bounting out for How long is the show
at the moment, like two and a.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Half hours to two and a half hours, Yeah, that
depends on the note. But we know it's hard to
get us off stage.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
We love it and you know, listen that you know,
we're really, really, genuinely looking forward to coming to New Zealand.
It's been always been a huge part of our lives,
you know, up touring New Zealand. I come to New
Zealand just you know, to see family. I've got family
in New Zealand and I feel very at home there
and we really want this to be a special tour.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Oh brilliant. Well, hopefully you might get time to squeeze
and to swing past the Hidache studios. I'm going to
I'm going to grab this book that I'm holding on
my hand right now, highways and byways and that's going
to be my reading for the night until I spot
you next.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
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Speaker 4 (12:02):
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Speaker 2 (12:04):
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