September 22, 2024 • 10 mins
Offbeat Cowboy are born and raised in Dunedin, their singer and producer Elliot called up to give us the secret ingredient to a proper cheese roll, talk about Fontaines D.C. and how his latest song was inspired by a snake shedding its skin.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Radio hold Keys Off the Record podcast with Greg.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's have a chat with offbeat cowboy Curder Elliott.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hello, how are you?
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Really well? Thanks mate? Whereabouts in the country are you
this evening?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Adibody Dunedin down here in the South.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
A cheese roll in your mouth?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Oh you know, you can't. You can't leave out the
onion soupments.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Never I was at the secret ingredient to a decent
cheese roll.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, You're gonna put the Maggi onion soupments in there.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's what I've been missing, trying to rec recreate that
Southern authentic delicacy, which meant he swears by he does.
Is that where you you're from from? Like, this is
your hometown?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
You've always yeah, so born and res down here. I've
gone away and worked summers and different places. But yeah,
this is mu stomping grounds and I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And as you've been growing up, what kind of music
has been circulating around your ears?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So my father brought me up on things like the Ramones,
Peel Jam, the Police, and then into things like Dire
Straits with Mont Noeffler. As I sort of got towards
the end of school now, which is about eight years ago.
Surf rock was really big in Dunedian's where bands like
the graham Is Mulin's dreaming individual ats like Cane Strand
they were really big down here and that sound is
(01:17):
still quite relevant down here, which is really nice to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And then these days what sort of stuff you're listening to?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm listening to a lot of like Fontaine's DC.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Fontaine's DC have been getting a lot of love on
this radio station recently. In fact, just last night we were
chatting with George from The Butlers and he is such
a fan. He's taken the heart logo from the cover
of the latest album Romance and tattoged it onto his leg.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh well that's braver than me. Yeah. I got to say.
When Darbursta came out, it was just like such a
fusion of like what if you grow up on indie
rock or rock from the UK UK rock brick pop.
It just had a mad fusion of that, different cadences
and different flow styles. I heard even like a bit
of like a grime influence in there from a hip
(02:06):
hop point of view, So it was interesting to hear
that record and the way that it is.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, well, we'll play that song shortly, but first let's
play your new song Daylight.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So I wrote it in my bedroom on the night
before I turned twenty six. I feel like you get
to every birthday, you start reflecting and looking back at
your life. And I kind of said to myself, I
want to live for the better. I want to shed
this skin like a snake does. A snake sheds its
skin and it moves to the better, to the greener pastures.
And I just wanted to remind myself that I don't
(02:37):
need to dwell into the past. I can live for
the better and I can move on and push myself
to do that. And that's what this song is about.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And for anyone who hasn't heard it, what's the vibe?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Sonically it's a bit different. It's I've got like an
idiom saw base in there, but then I've got some
big punchy rock and spire drums. I've just got a
lot of different genres going on, hence why i sit
in alternative indie pop world.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah all right, well let's check it out.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Hi. This is our offbeat Cowboy and you're listening to
Radio Hiraki. Here is my single daylight. I'll sting that
shut it. I'm living for the better.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Got strap some mass sweater. See my eyes got redder,
and I'll walking on my stresses. I'm treading for the better.
I'm ready for the lab ready for whatever.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
If you really want to put it back in living
in my rooms and making happens.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
That's what I'm seeing, the cracking.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
That's how the babies ever bednets.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Just pay by a just imagine.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Don't lie, no, like the then you like, then like then,
like then like.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Mm hm. I'm seeing the shudder.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I'm looking for the better.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
The sas a mass letter. My eyes got better, and
I'll welcome on mystresses.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm treading for the better.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I'm ready for the weather, ready for whatever.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
You really do a bunch of bout living in the
zooms and make it happens, happen.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
That's as long as I've seen the cracking, last of
the things in.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
The band its. Just pay by and just imagine, don't like,
don't like, don't night, don't like then, lin, don't.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Pay bye, and just imagine.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's ready a hood I can that is brand new
from Offbeat Cowboy. It's called Daylight, and we're lucky enough
to have Elliott from that outfit on a zoom with us.
Now I killed it. Elliott, thanks for bringing us that tune,
no problem. Thank you for having me offbeat Cowboy. That's
just you or is it a band?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So it's just me. I produced it all myself and
I work closely with one master and an engineer in Australia,
Jack Nigra on the Central Coast, and that's it. It's
all me. I just like to fuse everything that I
like together and try and represent myself the best I can.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Seems like it's a really good music scene in Dneda
at the moment. Where's your favorite venue to go and
check out live music?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So we have this new one called Ritz in Donneda.
I'm fortunate enough to work there sometimes. It's pretty cool.
It's a big open warehouse space. It used to be
a brewery actually, so it's a really nice venue. It's flat,
it's burg that sounds good, the lights are good. It's
just a good environment to hear some great amities of music.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Did you see Troy Kingny there on Friday? I did.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I was on the door for Troy Henry and it
was amazing. Yeah. So obviously we all know Troy Henry
is doing the ten different genre albums. It was just phenomenal,
to be honest, it's quite surreal, like the crowd just
loved and loved and loved it. And I think it
was quite interesting to see the demographic and the age
(07:21):
group of the people that were there, because as you'll
probably no gred like the rock fans in New Zealand
are that forty just sits the age bracket, and there
were a lot more older people there to see Troy Henry,
which I thought was really cool. And it's nice to
see them out because they're always turned up and they
always are vibrant when they're out in the office, have
a good time.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well Well. Troy's tour continues this week, and we have
details about Zardunga and Hamilton and Gazee and Napier on
our local's only page at Haidaki dot co dot in
z And Troy's celebrating this with the release of his
eighth album out of ten, A leather Man and the
Majave Green. But what about You? Is that song that
we played before Daylight? Is that part of a bigger
(08:01):
project or collection of songs?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, for sure, Grid. So it's part of my debut
album as Off Beat Cowboy that comes out on November first.
It's actually track number two. It's got that on there.
We have Lukewarm on there, we have car Crash on there,
and we have seven others that are just really about
blending the genres and showcasing the full Offbeat Cowboy package.
(08:26):
Of people have heard my catalog or would like to
go listen to my catalog. Your care that I do
a lot of different kind of things, and that's kind
of what I wanted to represent most On in the Rain.
It's kind of an based around the normality and the
chaos that is in your life and from the eye
of the storm of a moment, a time and emotion
(08:47):
of a day. In the rain is kind of what
it is based around.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I really like the way you speak. It's very poetic.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I'll truma best.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So what's the album called.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
In the Rain?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
In the Rain, I've been working really hard this year
music and really trying to I tried to make as
tight as a project as I could for someone who
makes music quite loosely. It's just something I'm really proud of.
There's some really interesting songs on there. There's there's one
called Purist. It's it's my master and engineer said. It
was kind of like if you went to yoga at
a music festival, that's what you'd expect to hear. So
(09:20):
I try and bring all the influences that I like
from different genres and then put my alternative indie bop
twist on it.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Well, hopefully we get a chance to see you at
one of these music festivals in the yoga tent tour wherever,
if people want to check out your music, like the
song that we just had before, or find out more
about the new album when it comes out on the
first in November, or all the festivals this summer. Who's
the best place to find some information about you.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
There's Instagram and it's just offbeat Cowboy. That's o ffve
a t c Owboy, So offbeat Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You mentioned there's a lot of different genres on your
music is country and Western. One of them, I just
think with the cowboy part of your name.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So the name kind of came about because I used
to traditionally make more like a hyped hip hop sound,
and then I wanted to make like an indie sound,
and I really wanted to just encapsulate a indie name.
And I've always thought like I had a bit of
an offbeat sort of personality. I guess the Cowboy is
a bit of like that alter ego and that.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Right well, Elliott from Offbeat Cowboy. Thanks for tom A.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Hradaki, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Radio hod aches off the Record podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
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Speaker 2 (10:35):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Find out more about this podcast and the people who
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Welcome to Radio hold Keys Off the Record podcast with Greg.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's have a chat with offbeat cowboy Curder Elliott.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hello, how are you?
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Really well? Thanks mate? Whereabouts in the country are you
this evening?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Adibody Dunedin down here in the South.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
A cheese roll in your mouth?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Oh you know, you can't. You can't leave out the
onion soupments.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Never I was at the secret ingredient to a decent
cheese roll.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, You're gonna put the Maggi onion soupments in there.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's what I've been missing, trying to rec recreate that
Southern authentic delicacy, which meant he swears by he does.
Is that where you you're from from? Like, this is
your hometown?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
You've always yeah, so born and res down here. I've
gone away and worked summers and different places. But yeah,
this is mu stomping grounds and I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And as you've been growing up, what kind of music
has been circulating around your ears?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So my father brought me up on things like the Ramones,
Peel Jam, the Police, and then into things like Dire
Straits with Mont Noeffler. As I sort of got towards
the end of school now, which is about eight years ago.
Surf rock was really big in Dunedian's where bands like
the graham Is Mulin's dreaming individual ats like Cane Strand
they were really big down here and that sound is
(01:17):
still quite relevant down here, which is really nice to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And then these days what sort of stuff you're listening to?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm listening to a lot of like Fontaine's DC.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Fontaine's DC have been getting a lot of love on
this radio station recently. In fact, just last night we were
chatting with George from The Butlers and he is such
a fan. He's taken the heart logo from the cover
of the latest album Romance and tattoged it onto his leg.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh well that's braver than me. Yeah. I got to say.
When Darbursta came out, it was just like such a
fusion of like what if you grow up on indie
rock or rock from the UK UK rock brick pop.
It just had a mad fusion of that, different cadences
and different flow styles. I heard even like a bit
of like a grime influence in there from a hip
(02:06):
hop point of view, So it was interesting to hear
that record and the way that it is.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, well, we'll play that song shortly, but first let's
play your new song Daylight.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So I wrote it in my bedroom on the night
before I turned twenty six. I feel like you get
to every birthday, you start reflecting and looking back at
your life. And I kind of said to myself, I
want to live for the better. I want to shed
this skin like a snake does. A snake sheds its
skin and it moves to the better, to the greener pastures.
And I just wanted to remind myself that I don't
(02:37):
need to dwell into the past. I can live for
the better and I can move on and push myself
to do that. And that's what this song is about.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And for anyone who hasn't heard it, what's the vibe?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Sonically it's a bit different. It's I've got like an
idiom saw base in there, but then I've got some
big punchy rock and spire drums. I've just got a
lot of different genres going on, hence why i sit
in alternative indie pop world.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah all right, well let's check it out.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Hi. This is our offbeat Cowboy and you're listening to
Radio Hiraki. Here is my single daylight. I'll sting that
shut it. I'm living for the better.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Got strap some mass sweater. See my eyes got redder,
and I'll walking on my stresses. I'm treading for the better.
I'm ready for the lab ready for whatever.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
If you really want to put it back in living
in my rooms and making happens.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
That's what I'm seeing, the cracking.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
That's how the babies ever bednets.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Just pay by a just imagine.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Don't lie, no, like the then you like, then like then,
like then like.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Mm hm. I'm seeing the shudder.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I'm looking for the better.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
The sas a mass letter. My eyes got better, and
I'll welcome on mystresses.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm treading for the better.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I'm ready for the weather, ready for whatever.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
You really do a bunch of bout living in the
zooms and make it happens, happen.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
That's as long as I've seen the cracking, last of
the things in.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
The band its. Just pay by and just imagine, don't like,
don't like, don't night, don't like then, lin, don't.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Pay bye, and just imagine.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's ready a hood I can that is brand new
from Offbeat Cowboy. It's called Daylight, and we're lucky enough
to have Elliott from that outfit on a zoom with us.
Now I killed it. Elliott, thanks for bringing us that tune,
no problem. Thank you for having me offbeat Cowboy. That's
just you or is it a band?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So it's just me. I produced it all myself and
I work closely with one master and an engineer in Australia,
Jack Nigra on the Central Coast, and that's it. It's
all me. I just like to fuse everything that I
like together and try and represent myself the best I can.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Seems like it's a really good music scene in Dneda
at the moment. Where's your favorite venue to go and
check out live music?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So we have this new one called Ritz in Donneda.
I'm fortunate enough to work there sometimes. It's pretty cool.
It's a big open warehouse space. It used to be
a brewery actually, so it's a really nice venue. It's flat,
it's burg that sounds good, the lights are good. It's
just a good environment to hear some great amities of music.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Did you see Troy Kingny there on Friday? I did.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I was on the door for Troy Henry and it
was amazing. Yeah. So obviously we all know Troy Henry
is doing the ten different genre albums. It was just phenomenal,
to be honest, it's quite surreal, like the crowd just
loved and loved and loved it. And I think it
was quite interesting to see the demographic and the age
(07:21):
group of the people that were there, because as you'll
probably no gred like the rock fans in New Zealand
are that forty just sits the age bracket, and there
were a lot more older people there to see Troy Henry,
which I thought was really cool. And it's nice to
see them out because they're always turned up and they
always are vibrant when they're out in the office, have
a good time.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well Well. Troy's tour continues this week, and we have
details about Zardunga and Hamilton and Gazee and Napier on
our local's only page at Haidaki dot co dot in
z And Troy's celebrating this with the release of his
eighth album out of ten, A leather Man and the
Majave Green. But what about You? Is that song that
we played before Daylight? Is that part of a bigger
(08:01):
project or collection of songs?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, for sure, Grid. So it's part of my debut
album as Off Beat Cowboy that comes out on November first.
It's actually track number two. It's got that on there.
We have Lukewarm on there, we have car Crash on there,
and we have seven others that are just really about
blending the genres and showcasing the full Offbeat Cowboy package.
(08:26):
Of people have heard my catalog or would like to
go listen to my catalog. Your care that I do
a lot of different kind of things, and that's kind
of what I wanted to represent most On in the Rain.
It's kind of an based around the normality and the
chaos that is in your life and from the eye
of the storm of a moment, a time and emotion
(08:47):
of a day. In the rain is kind of what
it is based around.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I really like the way you speak. It's very poetic.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I'll truma best.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So what's the album called.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
In the Rain?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
In the Rain, I've been working really hard this year
music and really trying to I tried to make as
tight as a project as I could for someone who
makes music quite loosely. It's just something I'm really proud of.
There's some really interesting songs on there. There's there's one
called Purist. It's it's my master and engineer said. It
was kind of like if you went to yoga at
a music festival, that's what you'd expect to hear. So
(09:20):
I try and bring all the influences that I like
from different genres and then put my alternative indie bop
twist on it.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Well, hopefully we get a chance to see you at
one of these music festivals in the yoga tent tour wherever,
if people want to check out your music, like the
song that we just had before, or find out more
about the new album when it comes out on the
first in November, or all the festivals this summer. Who's
the best place to find some information about you.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
There's Instagram and it's just offbeat Cowboy. That's o ffve
a t c Owboy, So offbeat Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You mentioned there's a lot of different genres on your
music is country and Western. One of them, I just
think with the cowboy part of your name.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So the name kind of came about because I used
to traditionally make more like a hyped hip hop sound,
and then I wanted to make like an indie sound,
and I really wanted to just encapsulate a indie name.
And I've always thought like I had a bit of
an offbeat sort of personality. I guess the Cowboy is
a bit of like that alter ego and that.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Right well, Elliott from Offbeat Cowboy. Thanks for tom A.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Hradaki, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Radio hod aches off the Record podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Why not subscribe so they download automatically and don't forget
to rate us five stars?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Find out more about this podcast and the people who
make it at hodache dot co dot z in
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