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Hello on the Front Foot remains in celebration mode as
the newsumer Day settle the series with South Africa. Another
opener puts pressure on the selects a test mates consideration,
I say that's the problem worth having and the Black
Cat for the Chapel Hadley series hit by injury, concerned
but still a strong lineup selected for a tough season
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opener Jeremy Coney. That season opener is October, the first
first game of international quick in days part we hadn't
even started club cricket, Lettle and international cricket at October.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
The first always Labor weekend was wasn't it in Wellington?
You're playing on the Saturday and then the Monday. One
of them usually rained out and it was normally late October,
wasn't it sort of twenty six to twenty seventh round
about there.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, And in recent times, believe we've been on artificial
pictures or we've been away to the Hawks Bay for
a weekend build up series, which was more time in
the pub than actually time on the park. But it
was a lot of fun and we got the club
season going. I was at the maation received yesterday. Actually
it looks beautiful. It's lush green. They've done all the
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hard work already. The pitch preparation has been started on
the twelve strip block and it's it's so lush, Jerry,
I think you open the bowling.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
You're into the wind with your haircut, and I'm only
just I'll be coming there and following straight after, don't worry.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, but never minded to sign that the cricket season
is here, and that's great rather than having to rely
on what's going on overseas. I mean, you've you've been
living the life of luxury anyway you've I see you
dressed tonight and you're number ones and the yes and
the creams or the whites that you were wearing tied
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up with your I think that was your tie for
the celebratory time you played for Willington. You know an
your benefit type.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Oh, the benefit type. Yeah, yeah, I think I don't
know whether it was that was I thought I lost
that many years ago. It may have been one of
the functions that I held. Don't worry, I don't mean
it once. I'll get you.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I'll get it to you. I've got one because.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
It's not worth anything. I've sorry. Yeah, well sor it is.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
With a few Poach giggs us down the front and
a bit of yes general, it'll be great. Never mind.
The October the first is what we're talking about, and
Michael Bracefall gets to lead the squad. Games tightly packed
into four days at Bay Oval, three T twenties. It's
a lot of hard work, really tough for the guys.
Five players for Nellen, Devon Conway, Lucky Ferguson and Tim
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Seifert and Kane Williamson have agreed terms to play on
in z Sea's international casual playing agreements, which enables them
to be included in the T twenty World Cup consideration
if they meet certain requirements. Alan and Ferguson are injured.
Williamson has declined he's got something else on I think
he's been playing in England and that leaves two players
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who have a great chance to gain valuable overseas play
to suit them and the New Zealand and Sifer and
Devin Conway.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Giving me the opportunities to play abroad to grow my
game and also give me the opportunities to play for
the black Caps. So yeah, it's just another year on
it and again just grateful for the nzity getting that
opportunity to play abroad again, that opportunity to grow your
game in different surfaces, different environments. It's great for young players. Again,
financially there's fantastic as well, no doubt. But you know,
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having that ability to come back to the black Caps
to apply your trade with the boys and learn take
what the learnings what you've had from overseas and just
bring it back to New Zealand's always a great opportunity to.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
The freedom to play outside of central contract has advantages
but can also have drawbacks. I selectors up for centrally
contracted players only.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, certainly.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
I mean I think at the end of the day,
last year, you know, I perhaps you know, gave up
my opportunity to a couple of guys coming in when
I was away, So credit to the boys that came
in and performed and you know, sim into their spot
in the team.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, just grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Obviously it's a little bit disappointing for finale and missing out,
you know, from his injury, but just being you know,
called into the group still a real honor and a
pleasure to be part of the Black Cap, So looking
forward to those opportunities.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Conway has pleasant memories of his first T twenty with
Australia and Hagley Oval in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, it was huge for me.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
I remember I was pretty nervous going into that game,
first time playing against the Aussies. I remember having a
conversation with Jimmy the night before and ask him what
it's like playing against Oz and he just said, you know,
at the end of the day, it's such just another
game of cricket.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Another white ball being bold to you.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
So just react to your thing and what works will
be okay for the team.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And it's keen to resume the contest with the Aussies.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, very hungry.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Can't wait for the opportunity to hopefully bring that trophy
back to Tunisian. It's been a while since we've won
that Chapel Hadley series, so yeah, just keen to go
out there, do our job and bring that trophy on.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Included in the squad is Wellington teammate Ben Sears, who
he sees is not an inviting prospect for that session.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Certainly up there as one of the fastest there is.
You know, it's great to have him back. I know
he's come back from injury, so it's been a paid
game for him. But it's great to see him charging in.
You know, we've seen him in the Netzier in Wellington
and he's certainly raring to go and bowling with some
good pace. I haven't faced him yet, not looking forward
to facing him, but watching him from a distance it
looks very aggressive.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
You know.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
It's certainly one forties plus for sure, but it's exciting
to watch too, so it's brilliant. It's a great weapon
to have, I think, you know, if you look around
around the world, every team's got some sort of fast baller. Thankfully,
we've got a few up our sleeves here and I
think it's a great opportunity for him to put his
hand up and Shelwy's got for New Zealand and particularly
in India. If you can bowl pay and bounce, it
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certainly makes it pretty hard scores a better.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The issue too for having those bottles is the bounce
they're able to achieve two, which is I guess difficult
to score from when you're playing that formal crew.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
I think you know he's got that sort of secret
recipe of extracting a lot of bounce. He's a tall boy,
hits the workerd pretty hard, so as you say, it
will be very hard for Better to score and hopefully
it makes a challenging for them.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, I see. Jamis's probably got the same sort of
skill too, isn't.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
He Yes, certainly, you know, obviously very skillful bowler, camp
swing it both ways, very tall.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
You know, he's plaid a fair bit of cricket for
New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Now he's got good experience under his belt and just
a good guy to have in the team.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Skipper Michael Bracewell. She is Conway's reticence to facing seas
in the nets. He's avoided it so far this year.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
No, I've been away fortunately, so I know that he's
wearing to go. He's had had a wee well off
playing out in the middle and he certainly likes to
get in the contest in the nets, So yeah, we'll
save that for the coming weeks and and the lead
up to the series.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
I've done it for a number of years now for
Wellington and he's one of those guys that he plays
exactly how he plays on the field off the field
as well, so you know that it's going to be
a battle, but it sets you up well for the
teams that you come up against. He's obviously bowling really fast.
That's what he's known for and that's what perhaps keeps
him on the sidelines a bit more. When you bowl
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that quickly, you're putting your body under a huge amount
of stress. I know that he's worked really hard to
get back and to be firing on all cylinders, so
I'm sure we'll see more of that in the series ahead.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You've had a side that in the past has been
extended because of numbers and injuries and everybody seems to
play their part. Is that the importance or the importance
of having the depth in the squad so that somebody
can just slot in as they needed to.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Yeah, absolutely. I think there's two parts of that. You've
got to have the guys ready to come in and
play the role, but you've also got to create an
environment that allows them to come in and be themselves.
So hopefully we've done that on both fronts, and we've
seen guys come in over the last couple of years
and do really well carry on their domestic form, which
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is I think that's a good testament to the environment
that we've created in the side that guys can just
come in and be themselves and express themselves.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
How does the captain work within that environment, because you've
a leadership group, havevenue, and that means that there are
others I guess that can have an input of you,
the man who ha's the final say.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
It's interesting one. I think everyone's a leader in their
own right out there, but I guess ultimately the decisions
fall on yourself as captain, and I'm sure guys will
be having their input, but you've got to take all
that into account and then try and make the best
decision for how you see it going forward.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And in sent there's absence the pride of being able
to lead the country at home.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
I think every time you get to lead the country,
you sort of chalk up the experience and become a
little bit better for it. I think I'm lucky to
have done it a number of times for Wellington, so
the leadership side is nothing new to me. But yeah,
there's the added pressures of international cricket, so it's always
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always a huge opportunity to get out there and lead
the side in international cricket. And yeah, particularly against Australia
formidable Tom. Yeah, it's a great way to start pretty quick,
three games in four days. But yeah, hopefully we've got
a lot of support up there in the Bay and
we can kick off the summer in the right way.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Jerry, it's good to know that those guys have signed
contracts and do want to play for New Zealand. I
don't think we ever doubted that to any extent. But
the interesting thing is, you know you're hauling guys like, Wow,
Jamison comes back into the squad, You've got Sears's pace,
You've got other players who are coming in. Is it
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an indication that we've got some real depth in our
TEA twenty squad, bearing in mind we're playing Australia.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Yeah, that's right. Ones won't be easy, will it, even
though Australia have got some missing as well, haven't they.
Cummings and Stark are the two obvious ones, but Cameron Green,
I guess is another. No, Alex Carey there, Nathan Ellis,
Fraser McGirk, those sort of players. But they'll still be
pretty strong, won't they. They never eat to beat, so
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it will be a challenge. But you're right, I think
we have got some more players now to select from.
And that's pretty much directly, you know, related to the
last few years where we have concentrated quite strongly on
the development of the A team and you know we've
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we've continued picking people like Chapman and I mean who
will open on that side? I was interested listening to Conway.
Yeah sounds as if he's keen to do well, didn't
it really? And in a way, yeah, well, in a way,
if you abandon your New Zealand contract, the main one
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and you still end up wanting to spend time in
New Zealand, traveling overseas now isn't quite as safe as
it was and you may as well want to get
back into the side if you're going to spend time here,
So it kind of creates petition in a way, doesn't
it for the positions. And that's putting aside whether administrators
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want to stop selectors, you know, favoring those who are
contracted to New Zealanders, you know, to New Zealand cricket.
And then Bracewell, I mean that was a fairly fairly
obvious pick, wasn't it really that he was going to
be the captain. He's captain in Pakistan before. And he
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made quite the reasonable point too that most of these
players now it's such a welcoming atmosphere and in the
New Zealand setup, I guess that they all feel quite
happy once they go in. You know in the past
that were very set hierarchies, but that won't be maybe
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quite so obvious nowadays.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You look at the T twenty though, and it's not
often that you would say somebody is going to be
really missed. But Mitchell Santner will be, won't he ti
of his skills as well, not not only his captaincy skills,
because I've been quite impressed with the way he's captain
the side, but you know, his left arm spin four
o us. But he still manages to control games, doesn't
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he sure does.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Yep, he'll be missed, no doubt about that. And his
fielding and batting quite useful down low, isn't he down
there sort of number seven or eight and can slog
a few of his needs to. Oh he's a good
all round player now, terrific. So they will miss him. Yes,
they just got the one spinner, haven't they, is Sody?
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Yeah? And Revender a bit too, that's right. And it's
interesting both Conway and brace Well yeah both mentioned Sears.
Wasn't it about his pace? So that's good that he's
coming back. We're starting to get a few what even
though we've got unfortunate you know, o raw out. Maybe
we have to look after him a bit, don't we.
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It's not an operation as it was. It's more just
recuperation and building up strengths. Yeah, but when you look
at sort of the fact that we have a Rourke
Sears Jamison Jamison peraps not as quick as the other
two and it swings it and Fergus well he's not
going to be in our.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
And then we've got Henry Folks Duffy as well, kind
of in that just slightly. You know, we're starting to
build up. That's what you're talking about in terms of
some options for selectors. So I don't know will Robinson
make this side. I know he's there, it's just a
question will Cipher it open the Ravendra We've seen open
in t twenties as well, haven't we.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, well, it's got to be got to be up there,
doesn't he because I mean he's been playing at the
top of the area and impressively in the well the
Caribbean Premier League recently, and I think he's cut out
for that position. He had a period of time where
it didn't seem to work and they dropped him back
down the order. But I think he's adjusted his game accordingly,
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and he will be number one choice, whether it'll be
with Conway or whether Conway will bet at three, whether
Robinson will get a run. And they're playing three games
in four days, so I doubt that it'll be the
same team every game, will it.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Yeah, that's a fair point. That's a fair point. I
guess Seifer will keep as well, obviously, won't he keeps?
That's right. So then they've got Chapman of course quite useful.
They've got Jacob's there, newer player Mitchell of course, so
they won't be a pushover. I hope they're not a pushover.
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They're going to the Eastern Seaboard, aren't they, where it's
a little bit dryer and a little bit you know,
hopefully that'll be in good condition as well for T
twenty stuff. You want the bat to be slightly in control,
don't you in T twenty and Odie Eyes whereas and
tests perhaps the other way around. But no, no, well,
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let's hope they're good close games and that certainly the
side should be motivated. After the last World Cup t
twitter effort, Yeah, they've got a bit to do, haven't they.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, and they played pretty well to win that series
in Zimbabwe against a very good South African side. The
interesting comment that came out from both Conway and Braceball
was the reluctance to front up on the nets to
Ben Sears. Now I can understand that reluctance. Who did
you dislike having to face in the nets pace wise
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and mean? Because Bracewell says Sears plays in the nets
as he plays on the park, which in itself is
a good sign. But yeah, you've got to put your
body on the line, don't it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Usually usually the younger guys who are trying very hard
to get to get into the side are always keen
in the nets and you just wanted to have a
bad Just just get your iron and let the ball
go and do some basic things that you want to do.
But I'm sure Sears will be hurrying a few of
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them up. Which is which is? Which is good practice anyway,
isn't it. Let's be honest about that. And you know
there will still be some quick bowlers. I would have thought,
who have they got? They've got a left armory, haven't
they been douseious? They've got Hazel would of course they've
got who else? Xavier Bart Let's see, he's a sort
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of the right medium fast, isn't he?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well not a quickie, is he? I mean, nobody's just
gets bounced.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, two stonders they've got as well.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, interesting interesting sort of side. And yeah, Sears is
basically quite prepared to tell his own players, Hey boys,
I've recovered. I'm back and I'll just show how it's done.
And we've got forward to that over three days. You
and I will probably have to sit back with their
feed up watching it on TV, because I'm not going
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through to Bay Plenty just to watch.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
I'll be watching it once. Yeah, I'll be watching that
one and with some interest.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, oh well that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Brian Waddle, Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Last week we had cause to celebrate the success of
our A team and the individual achievements of Rhys Mario
and Dale Phillips and the win over South Africa A.
All the A's have capped that off with a series win.
After a drawn match in Benoni, a new star emerged
to join those other two openers, Curtis Heathy, who slotted
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into the Phillips role and made his fighest score in
first class cricket, a remarkable innings of one hundred and
ninety of three seventy six balls. Isn't there what we
asked of our top order batchman and he batted for
all but eight balls of the one hundred and thirty
two over innings. We welcomed Curtis to on the front
foot and offer hearty congratulations, personal achievement to Curtis and
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the efforts of the team.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah, no, it was awesome. It was a great tour.
Obviously started off probably a little bit slow on those Mondays,
but by the by time the four days came around,
it was as well, go.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, I guess you've got to be able to play
both forms of the game now, and that's the best practice,
I suppose for what comes along for you in the future,
to have those games against a strong side.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah. It was ultimately a very very strong side. They
played their cricket a little bit differently to how we play.
It's pretty impressive how they go about it. So that
was awesome. Come over and I guess learn how other
people go about it.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Were they pretty hard opponents on the field in terms of.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Attitude, Yeah, very very hard nosed. No, it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I watched a bit of it on the internet. Your
innings of one hundred and ninety. Basically that's going somewhere
where you've never been before in terms of your highest
score and the amount of time you spent at the cree.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, it would have been nice if it didn't quite
take so long, but no, it was nice to finally
spend some time out there. I'd got a few thirties
earlier on and kind of wanted to kick on, so
it was nice to finally go big.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, well you finished the first class chection of the tour.
What two hundred and seventy runs averaging of ninety point
three to three. They're numbers that are pretty significant, really,
and there's something that you can enjoy, aren't they?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Yeah? Totally as four de crickets obviously pincoors of domestic stuff,
So it's always nice to do well in that sort
of format.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
One hundred and ninety and with your central district's teammate,
a partnership per down the auto him batting at number ten,
a partnership of one hundred and sixty two. That must
have been pretty special because there figures that you don't
have very often for number ten batsmen, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah, it was awesome. We're actually we're housemates back home,
so that was pretty cool. And to see him do
his thing and I just get a nice little partnership
that we can remember for a while.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I guess when you put those times together, this is
something that you can do in terms of developing your game,
can't you. In terms of spending time at the crease.
I sensed there's a real competition between openers Reece Mariu
getting a couple of one hundreds, Dale Phillips getting one
hundred as well, we're pretty well catered for by players
at the top of the order, are we.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, no, those was an unbelievable It's been awesome to
watch them go about their business and do their thing,
and I just learned a little bit about how they
go about it. So that's always nice to have competition around.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
How tough was the mental challenge? I mean you bettered
basically ten hours you were on the field for all,
but I think eight balls of the innings the New
Zealand battered first.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, it was obviously pretty tough, but it's quite hot
over here in a little bit of altitude as well,
so I didn't find it quite tough obviously coming off
and having jumped straight back onto the field. But yeah, ultimately,
I guess that's what you got to do is and
only better. You've got to be ready to essentially be
on the field for all four days.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Is that how you approach your role at the top
of the order.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think it took a
little bit of learning when I was a little bit
younger to try and switch off in between balls to
be allowing me to I guess try back for as
long as possible.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You've better than a couple of positions. You've opened and
you've bettered down the order on this tour, and I
guess that's part of the tour that you're on because
everybody has to have an opportunity. You've got a preference
where you like to bet.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I like opening at the moment, definitely in four day
four day cricket, I love opening, so I'd like to
try to stay there for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
What were the conditions like to better Because you've also
played as part of the New Zealand A side in
Bangladesh in was there a major difference from your point
of view.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I think obviously Bengla dish being subcontinent has spun a
lot more than it probably did over here, so I
think that's probably probably the main thing. And then these
pictures over here just had a little bit more bounce,
a little bit more pace to them. So yeah, I
guess it's awesome to be able to go on to
different tours like that and get ultimately two different conditions
to practice and I try a debt your game to.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
They seemed to well. They have probably strengthen pace bowling
more so than spin bowling, which is slightly different than Bangladesh.
Have you had anything that you've wanted to work on
in terms of either pace or spin that you've found
difficult in the past to score on.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
I think bringing sweeps in for spin was a massive thing,
especially going over to being the dish, being able to
have gets to get out of jail shot I guess
to go to. So I think that's probably that's probably
the biggest thing leading into these two tours.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
What would you put down to you've learned from these
tours so far this year because there's a lot of
intense cricket and a short space of time, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, I think the biggest thing, to be honest is
switching off when I can. I'm quite intense around the
cricket front, so I think switching off when I can
and ultimately trying to be fresh as possible. So, as
you said, there's a lot of cricket crammed into a
pretty short amount of time these days.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So yeah, what's what's your personal feeling when you score
one hundred and ninety? Is that a special number, the
figures motivate you or is it just doing your job
for the team.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
It's always nice to get a big score, but I
think it always comes back to I guess what the
team kind of needs at that sort of time, and
for me it was obviously just trying to bat as
big and as big and as long as as possible.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Then, how did the players feel individually about what you've done?
I mean the success of beating them one neurl and
holding off and surviving the last day which was another
outstanding performance because Ruce s Murray who got another one
hundred as well. How are the players feeling about the result.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, it's awesome. I think it was really trip. We
always pride ourselves on four day crickets, so it's awesome
to get a serious and Bangladesh and then come here
and do the same thing in foreign conditions.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It's been a hell of a winter for you.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, it has been all over the place. I was
obviously in Bangladesh and then being in the UK, had
a trip to Guyana as well for a few weeks
in there, so I've definitely got my ear miles up indeed.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So were you playing in the UK?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, playing in the UK for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, with what a club side?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, just playing some club stuff over there.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, and Diana of course was the central District's a
prize for winning the twenty, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, No, that was an awesome trip. It was very
good fun.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So now you come home and you've got a full
season to go, and I imagine the push for you
will be to try and gain international selection in one
form or another.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah, I think ultimately that's that's the goal. But I
think if I just keep trying to do my process
as well, I'm trying to develop my game, get better,
hopefully that stuff that stuff comes, but I'm not really
too too worried about that, just trying to focus on
what I control.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Congratulations on what you've been able to achieve, Curtis. The
figures look good, and it's not always about figures those
and it's about what you're able to do for the team.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, totally. I think that's the biggest thing. Team boys.
Bloways comes first.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Thanks Curtis, and nice to have had you on the
front foot with us. And during this side has performed
exceptionally and I've got to say I enjoyed the chance
to watch it even in the middle of the night
on the internet. And so they're ringing cricket deserve some
real credit and they've got a message there for New
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Zealand that we should see a bit more New Zealand
cricket free to wear on the internet because I saw
the performances of particularly two of those players, Mario and Heafy.
And I'm not ignoring Phillips in that regard as players
who want to bet, they want to occupy the crease,
they want to play the big long innings, and they've
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done it. They're not just getting to one hundred and
getting out. Mary, you got a double one hundred and
twenty four and Heave you got one hundred and ninety.
Great stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Yeah, it's what Graham Goots used to refer to as
getting a granddaddy hundred, wasn't it? Get what that really matters,
Get to it, don't worry about the hundred, Get to
these big totals that you've just been describing. Yeah, it's
really pleasing, isn't it to see some of the younger
men being able to adapt the way they play and
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remain at the crease for so long and obviously have
the sort of the skills that's required to stay at
the crease as well as shots as well. You can't
be opening in all forms of the game now without
having shots. So but just that reliance on defense and
technique and judging the line of the length of ball.
(28:00):
In particular, I thought the one nil was, you know,
on another decent pitch at Benoni. From this group, terrific
effort when you look at it was with Mariu you've mentioned,
he had just had a chat to Heafi Phillips you've
mentioned as well. Abas got a few runs. He didn't
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get a big ease that we've been talking about, but
he was getting thirties and forties. He had probably wanted.
He's got to be able to do that as well,
of course, and then it was a kind of a
group of yeah, hey folks, keen and now Lenox very
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very handy lower order runs. I mean Lenox, that innings
of his, just the importance of it and that lower
order he he went into bat and I think New
Zealand eight for three hundred about three ten something like that,
and they put on the last two wickets put on
one hundred and seventy runs. I mean that is that
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kills you in the fields. And of course if they'd
have been bowled out quickly then that would have meant
obviously less runs, but also loads more time for South
Africa to bowl New Zealand day out again and that
would have been a very familiar feeling as the first
game was. And so you know, that was an outstanding
(29:28):
effort from Lenox. I mean we've talked about, you know,
Curtis Heapey of course, but that was terrific and the
importance of those runs, those lower order runs. And right
throughout this tour we've seen Haget run seventies and Folks
has got seventies and fifties. Keen has got forties quite quickly.
(29:52):
He needs to work a bit more in his bowling now,
doesn't he. We'd love to see him coming through with
some wickets, but gee, as he developed his batting and
then as I mentioned, just Lenox, So all those are
good things. I think. The other thing I think from
this team I saw we saw good seam bowling from
Fisher in game one. We saw the use of spin bowling,
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a lot of spin bowling, lots of overs for Ashok
and for Lenox, they're given that chance and if they're smart,
they've got to be getting better and so I think
that's extremely important in the development of our spinners. Look
at England England basically haven't got spinners really at the moment,
(30:37):
not really, and we are starting to develop a couple
coming through now, so that's all good news. And in fact,
they took nine wickets I think in the first match
and five and the second, so there's fourteen wickets and
two of those three innings they played and were first innings,
so that's a good effort I think from them. So
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those are the important things I think for me, the
two when you look at it, yeah, I think, okay,
we were well beaten in the second a short format
and the ODI it was reasonably close in the first.
We got a bit lucky in the last one with
a DLS, but chased down three hundred and ten to
the winness that match with a DLS resounding winning the
(31:23):
first one four day and then a solid draw two
hundred plus ahead. Was six wickets remaining in that last match,
so there was an opportunity there to push on. Even
if you had a fifth day, they could have gone on.
Who knows to see what the result would have been.
So overall you've got to rate that a success that too.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, exciting stuff for the future. Yeah, I
guess it's a bit to be done in terms of
the bowling. But it quite clearly when you look at
the tables the batsman. The batsman enjoyed conditions and you
know the South African A you know, also had some
big scorers. The brothers who scored the captain scored pretty
(32:06):
big as well. Great two. I think that to me
is and we've talked about it over the last three
or four or five years, haven't we about the need
to give these A players more cricket. We need to
just give them more Test matches now, don't we?
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Totally? Yeah, and really it could have been a bigger total.
Carter had to bat about number nine or ten, didn't
he in the first innings. He must have been unwell
or something must have happened to bat down there at
the captain and then I wondered what I looked also
at Lister who only bowld six overs. Was he injured
at all? Because it meant that Clarkson came in as
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number three. They looked a little bit light on the bowling.
Maybe certainly as soon as Listen only bowled six overs,
I was a bit surprised at that.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, I think he might have been ill in the
in the first game. It's hard to know from Afar,
but yeah, you know, I think he's a player who
still needs to be persisted with. You and I both
agree that the left armor is still no yet important
part of our selections. He is a very useful left armor.
(33:13):
But all in all, you know, you're sitting back here
as a selector and a coach of the Black Caps
and you've got to look at those guys and say,
we've got players who can slot in. They're going to
put pressure on our boys at the top and there's
no holding back on that. That's brilliant for the upcoming season.
Hopefully they get opportunities. You know, those nineteen tests are
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going to play between now in March. You know, going
to give them plenty of opportunities.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Yeah, okay, ill looking at grumbling. Bit of grumbling from
Wellington there everybody, he's had a tough day, windy outside.
He can't do the lawns.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Oh no, but I've got I've got ice water to
look after. The most important thing. Look, there's been so
much news from overseas, I'm not sure what is most significant.
I think next week we're going to have to look
at the England side for the Ashes series, because that's
about to come out and we can have a discussion
(34:13):
with that. I think most Peter Holland wants to join
us for that side. I think we can lock them
in for that, and there's an issue about the program.
But one of the things that we talked about in
passing terms a while ago was the fact that in
one day games they've discarded the two white ball rule
(34:38):
in ODI's and at the thirty fourth over, at the
end of the thirty fourth over, from overs thirty five
to fifty, they're only having one and the bowling team
will choose one of the two balls they've used, which
they will use for the last fifteen overs at both ends. Now,
I mean the initial rules because the quality of the
(35:00):
balls didn't last fifty overs, as I recall it. Now,
are they saying that it does and they want the
best ball that will swing? Is that what they want?
Do they want the ball to swing in the last
fifteen overs? Are they trying to do something for the bowlers?
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
I think they are. Originally it was, as you point out,
ball deterioration, wasn't it. It was visibility for the batsman was
an issue. Of course, Now with two balls that means
you're only bowling sevent You've only bowled seventeen, haven't you,
not thirty not thirty four as in the past, and
(35:40):
you once you add on the further sixteen that you've
got to bowl, then in that case you're only going
to beat to thirty three, aren't you by the end.
And I guess it's clear they want to even up
the equation between bat and ball at the stage I wonder,
I wonder whether sides will attack more before does it
(36:06):
the change to let that last man, that fifty man
outside the circle wards? Because in thirty over thirty four
you'll only have four men allowed out, and so you've
got those six overs until over forty before you might
see a little bit of reverse swing of someone's good
enough at it, and you've only got those four men out.
(36:29):
And I wonder whether they will continue to manipulate the
ball which people complain about, or will they attack. I
must say for me, I'm a wee bit disappointed that
I haven't seen more attacking earlier on in an ODI
(36:53):
with all the T twenty matches that they've played for
nearly twenty years now, nearly twenty years, you know that
it's been going, They've had enough time in practice and
coaching and all that sort of thing, both to hit
the ball on the off side and the on side
through the air. And so from twenty five to forty overs,
(37:15):
there's no reason to me to have considered kind of
attack rather than all out building of run single single
single and the better players getting two's. I'm not suggesting
of the picture's tricky. I'm not suggesting if they've lost
early wickets, like they're three down quite quickly, but if
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one or two down max both men are in, you
might have a fifth and a sixth bowler operating. Show
us your skills, show us how you are able to
hit the ball between There might be a man at
long on. There might be a man at backward square.
Now that leaves a hell of a lot of gap
on the on side. And normally there's a wide third
(38:00):
man and a long off there's hardly ever a deep
extra cover. Now there's an area you can attack as well.
I'd like to see sensible. As I said, the word
was considered attack during those periods if you want to
do so right, And I think that an area of
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the game, the one day game would benefit from so
that you build your total earlier, and you build a
competitive total earlier because you might find reverse swing. And
you remember when when was he Macram and co Were
bowling and waka the last five overs when they came
(38:42):
back were murderous and you couldn't get your runs at
that stage of an innings. You got to build your
total before they come in.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
We don't see that now, do we, in terms of
that down the order bowlers. But when the game has
changed to it at the top of the order, when
you know Mark grape bats started way back in the
nineties and the game had big pinch hitters. The Sri
Lankan guy who was there that you going from. We
don't see that now. We see a more organized approach
(39:15):
your top order, not trying to give away too many
early wickets so that you can build your partnerships. And
still three hundred four hundred pluses being scored, isn't it?
So the game has changed in terms of the theory.
The theory is about what is good for the one
day game, and I find that quite exciting.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Look, I'm not saying I'm board with it at all.
I quite enjoy the way players can can build their
totals and how quickly they can do it what not
with big shots. I think if there was one change
to making in cricket for me, I'd have a smaller bat.
I'd like a smaller bats to be used, and I'd
like the grounds to be pushed out a little bit.
(39:56):
And because a six a six to me is an event.
It's an event that as you leave the ground you
see you've seen three or four sixer's max in the
day's rather than fifteen or sixteen of them. I'm sorry,
it's not an event any longer. People are just sort
of waiting for the next one, do you know what
(40:18):
I mean? But I looked up the top ten ODI
totals one just as a sort of a just to
see what they were. There are all ten of them
are in the four hundreds, as you'd probably expect as
you were just saying four to twenty eight is the lowest,
the tenth and four ninety eight the highest. And you
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know five of those ten have come from either Emstelvene
where you play the Netherlands, or at trent Bridge, Nottingham
and joe Burg. Those are the most run giving grounds
if you like conceding runs, and then that's so that's
(41:06):
three five seven of them one Cady Mackay in Australia
and Delhi. So those are the the ten most expensive
grounds at the stage. So it's interesting that it is.
And if you look at the last it's say, you
go by decades. When we're in the nineteen eighties, the
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run rate was four point three runs and over, so
you know you're getting up to two hundred to two
hundred and twenty that kind of member those days, and
you got two thirteen and you thought you had a
pretty good total.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
Now ed it?
Speaker 5 (41:43):
What do you reckon it is now in the twenty twenties.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
No, I'll bout to your again, right.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Well, I'll tell you it's five point two five point
two eight, and so it's it hasn't gone in fact,
the two hundreds to from two thousand to two thy
and ten it was four point eight, so it hasn't
gone that far since since the year two thousand. It's
interesting that.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Is to eighty yeah to seventy two eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think that that seems to you know, sit in
my mind as you know where most games are. But
there are a lot of bigger innings as well, because
I mean you're talking about the average, aren't you say
there's some big tatles. Yeah, but you're also having some
smaller tatles.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Yeah. The well, the best game I looked at was
actually Ozzie versus South Africa in joe Burg. One of
those three games there, Ozzie made. Ossie made four hundred
and thirty four.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
First, yeah, having guess who've got one hundred and sixty
Ponting Pussy got an eighty and Katich Simon Kattich got
seventy odds so and then South Africa four thirty five
for nine.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
That's not about claimers, it I mean, and Gibbs Gibbs
one seventy five batting at number three, yeah, and South
Africa opening the bating got ninety. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I went to South Africa after that and they were
selling T shirts with the scoreboard on the front of
the T shirt. That would be good Lewis who got
none for one hundred and twelve or something. Yeah, amazing stuff.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I've still got the T shirt too. Smells a bit,
but I know, oh, well that's all right. So yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
I think the fact that this rule of changing to
one ball a I think the other reason that Batsman
wanted to change it because they wanted a harder ball
using two balls the whole way. So it's twenty five each,
means you've got a hard ball to hit at the
end of the in the overs. And they're now changing
(43:57):
that just slightly, aren't they. They're changing that so one
ball is going to be a little bit over and
get to over thirty three, and I think that might
just helpt's. Let's wait and see about the judgment, whether
you can get reverse. Hopefully that will happen because that
will make it much more interesting as well.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yes, indeed, well let us know what you think on
the front foot twenty at gmail dot com. We've had
a response. We'll get the odd message from listeners, and
Darren has been in touch with us in the past. Hi, gentleman,
he says Jerry. I don't know whether he's referring to
you and I or just more by gentlemen. Yeah, probably, Yeah, Well, Darren,
(44:39):
Darren starts off on the right way to get its
message across. Yeah, okay, and he says, I enjoyed your
podcast on the subject of Test cricket, which is close
to his heart. I have to totally agree with Mitch Johnson.
If you remember, Mitchell Johnson had a crack at the
Chief Executive dervustrating Cricket about saying that the game would
be bankrupted or some of the countries would be bankrupt
(45:02):
if they extend Test cricket. And Darren says, the current
New Zealand A program is so devoid of the test
match game only three. Well, we've spoken about that. I
have so many memories of games played New Zealand, victories
and individual performances. Three games in New Zealand isn't enough.
It is the type of cricket I resonate with, and
(45:24):
you remember the games for years afterwards, and the great
players at showing the skills. And I agree you remember
tests more than you remember T twenty's or Odie Eyes.
I love test cricket. I want to see New Zealand
playing more tests, not less. And I don't buy the
playing more tests will make some countries broke. Argument, share
the money around ICC, grow the game, innovate we're necessary,
(45:47):
and adapt the game to increase the pace. Thanks very much, Darren,
who signs himself a Matt Henry Jacob Duffy fan. There
you go. Somebody agrees with that.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
Oh, I think he's a bowler. I think that's limited now, man,
we will hunt him down. We're coming for you, Darren,
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
But we want his point of view because it just
highlights the fact that Test cricket is still significant and
I still believe paramount it doesn't have the money, but
not everybody's gonna make millions out of T twenty apart
from the entrepreneurs and the owners in India. But you
know that there's a man speaking from the heart about
(46:30):
his love of cricket and Test cricket and we agree.
I think we'll go and sit and have an orange
juice over that one, Jerry. And should we give Moosa
ring and Sev he wants to join us next week?
Speaker 5 (46:43):
That would be fun. Absolutely, Ossi and Os the Aussie
will they have announced their aside because I think England
it's coming up next week, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's almost due to be released. And you know,
Brendan McCallum's point of view believes that the bas ball
style of play is not being used affliated, yeah, not
appreciated and certainly by Bears. So we'll wait and see.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Yeah yeah, well Derek, Yeah, all right mate, well, if
that's it for this week, I'm look forward to that
next week. And you know, let's hope that well by
next week, well you started the t twenties.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Will they No, it'll be it'll be a couple of
weeks away. Well, well it's only ten days a won't it. Yeah,
twelve days away, yeah, yeah, I'll be right. Enjoy yourself,
face the wind, and you'll be sweet. Airs.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
We'll do once. I'll be blunting backwards. So I'll work
hard to get to the same place, but I am.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Already a good way.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
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