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February 21, 2025 • 17 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 21st February 2025, NZC has signed a 6 year deal with Sky to broadcast home internationals on Sky Sport. NZC CEO Scott Weenink joins Sports Fix to discuss the ins and outs of that deal
Piney offers his thoughts on the third edition of A-Leagues 'Kiwi Derby'
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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This is Sportsfix Howard by News Talk SEDB.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello there, and welcome to the back end of your
working week, probably the front end of your working weeks,
the front end of the sportscaster's working weekends. I'm Jason
Pine on the Sports Fix podcast for Friday, February twenty one.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Non as farsty water Grave, I suppose I do work
over the weekend reviews. Count's sitting around on the couch,
rotting and yelling at the television's work, which I kind
of do. Yep, hard weekend in front of me.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I know that a lot of people would swap with
us in a heartbeat in terms of the way we
spend our working weeks, our working weekends. But there is
a heck of a lot of sport on and speaking
of watching the game, the game of cricket has a
new home, well, it will soon have a new home,
Sky Sport and New Zealand Cricket agreeing to a six
year deal.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Revolution, isn't it as in rolling round and around, not
as in we're gonna stick you up on a guillotine.
It's gone from Spark through the TV and Z now
back to Sky again. So Scott when it joins us
short to talk about that process, how it operated in
what happens next for the great ownash which just us.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, the ones who don't have Sky, what do they
watch their cricket on? I'm interested their hair from Scott Wenneck,
I got some thoughts. You has some thoughts as well.
Derby tomorrow as well in the A League, So a
lot to get through, Darcy. I wonder what you're doing
up here, mate, I'm here looking apart from wanting to
spend time being this close proximity to you, I'm here
for the derby. We're here for sports fixed. Let's get
into it.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
In other news, let's start, as always, with a look
at the big sports stories around today.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
The Talk Blacks have started the third window of the
Asia Cup basketball qualifiers, beating hosts Hong Kong ninety two
fifty one. His coach jud Flavel, we.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Really wanted to make sure that our defense was going
to get the job done, and looking at the stats,
and you know, we able to pause twenty four turnovers
I think, and really capitalize on that and basically, I
think that's probably really game with one.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Key we go for Ryan Fox has sunk the longest
part of this season on the PGA Tour, a ninety
one footer on the par three fifth hole at the
Mexican Open. Ryan Fox at the fifth name you one
feed a little bit of change.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I'm trying to getting close, trying to keep it on
the green.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Right the key weed is a magician?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
How about that? And India of Chase down two hundred
and twenty nine to eat Bangladesh with twenty one balls
to spare in Crickets Champions Trophee, what it's make.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
To finish this up?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Shut up on put into the road, finish off with
a six rigged quin dan to the Champions Trougby.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
This is Sportsfix, your daily dose of sports news and
by News talksb and.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
If you're welcoming that to the podcast. To the CEO
of n Z Cricket, mister got weaning, Hi, Scott, Hi Darthy.
I trust you're well and absolutely stoked at your new
deal with sky TV came out today. Tell us all
about that, the pleasure behind it, and I suppose the
mechanics behind that deal.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Scott, Yes, thrilled, thrilled to close that deal overnight. You know,
Sky have been obviously a long term partner of New
Zealand Cricket, previously a very experience experience broadcasts of cricket,
so we're really really comfortable from that point of view.

(03:45):
TV and Z have also been a fabulous partner and
we've really enjoyed and been appreciative of the free to
wear that Television New Zealand has provided. So as part
of this deal, one of the key elements was to
ensure there would continue to be free to wear aspects
to it. So each eat, the first game of each

(04:10):
T twenty series will be will be free to wear,
and we're also going to continue to show super Smash.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
On free to wear.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
So no, we're really really delighted. You know, it's a
tough broadcast market, so to lock in a long term
deal at this stage gives New Zealand Cricket you know,
some some real certainty around commercials, but also reach ensuring
we maintain some free to wear.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
So how long is the deal for Scott So we've
got the remainder of this year and then next season
with TV and Z and then from twenty six to twenty.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Seven, we will move to Sky for the six years following.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Tell us about the Super Smash situation. So that's purely
going to be free to wear. Is it going to
actually be on the Sky platform as well? Just sharing
out and that's that's the whole competition itself.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
No, So what we what we what we carved out, Kelly,
was as I say, one T international T twenty of
each series together with the Super Smash that we plan
to package up together to then you know, to then
potentially provide to TV and Z or another free to

(05:25):
wear provider. So the Super Smash won't be shown on Sky,
it'll be a free to wear provider.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Right and you're not sure where that's going to go yet,
still negotiating. Is that open for everybody? Scott?

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yes, absolutely, yep. So this the deal with Sky was
purely we we agree to just before international matches and
that we would deal with the Super Smash separately. You know,
it was really important to us to ensure that the
Super Smash stays free to wear because of that, you
know that that fan engagement aspect to it. And look,

(05:59):
the numbers have been fantastic this year. The quality of
cricketers obviously been incredible and the numbers that tv Z
have sort of shown as on service smash had been great.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
So that's been a huge takeaway out of this delance
away from Sky over the last few years. What you
went to Sparkman TV and Z now back again. That
free do we actually works for eyeballs. This is something
you need to be engaged with.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, it works for eyeballs.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Obviously, it doesn't work quite.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
So well for the commercial aspects, and so that's why
you need to balance it up because ultimately the New
Zealand cricket financial model is still heavily reliant on broadcast
fees and in particular domestic broadcast fees. So it's a
case of balancing up getting those commercial broadcast fees by

(06:51):
having some cricket behind a paywall while trying to maintain
some free to wear to kind of continue to generate
fan engagement. So it is a difficult balancing act. If
we could, we'd have absolutely everything free to but that's
just unrealistic from a commercial model.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Scott, was there much of a fight? Did you have
to challenge anyone else to get these rights? You just
roll in and go TV and he can't afford it.
Here's our offer. Even how did that and end up
working through?

Speaker 5 (07:24):
No, Look, we've been in discussions with both TV and
Z and Sky about our future rights for probably about
nine months, and so this was just a unique opportunity
came up with Sky. You know, they made a very
compelling offer to us, and it made sense to look

(07:46):
at that now. But as I say, one of the
key elements to it was to ensure that we still
maintained the free to wear element.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
What are they paying for it?

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Oh well, I.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Couldn't tell you.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
But I couldn't tell you. No, it's commercially sensitive. But
you know, look it's a fair deal. Look, we're obviously
really pleased, but it's a good deal for Sky too,
because you know, the Black Caps and White Fern's brands
are absolutely humming at the moment, and you know, we
expect to partners together to really drive the Sky business

(08:22):
as well. So so look, I think they are really
pleased to have us back, and we're obviously really pleased
with the with the you know, with the commercials and
been able to kind of get some certainty for revenue
streams sort of long term.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Scott Way, thanks for your time, mate, you go well
of a great weekend thanks.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
To ARCI Sports perfects.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
The Third A League New Zealand Derby tomorrow Auckland f
C against Wellington Phoenix, and the contrasting current fortunes could
hardly be any starker between the two and the new Boys,
Auckland f C charging into the competition, boisterous fan base
there up at the top of the table. By comparison,
Wellington Phoenix clinging on really the hopes of a top

(09:03):
six finish and desperate really to break out of a
goal scoring drought which is really affected them in recent weeks.
But when it comes to the derby, any derby, I
feel like all bets are off. The form book just
goes out the window. When you come up against your
fiercest rivals. You might have a bit of momentum or not.
You might be high on confidence or not. You might

(09:26):
have bragging rights as Auckland FC do from earlier meetings,
or you might not have those bragging rights as Wellington
Phoenix don't. But none of that matters tomorrow because when
those twenty two players walk out of the tunnel at
a jam packed go Media stadium, some of them in
blue and black the other half in bright yellow history

(09:47):
becomes entirely irrelevant because funny things happen on days like these.
Players thrive under the pressure or they wilt under that pressure.
Mistakes are magnified, flashes of brilliance are accentuated, and matches
like these are often decided on very small moments, even

(10:08):
might moments within moments. And I get the feeling that
is what's going to happen tomorrow. So who will taste
a bit of Darby delight and who will face Darby
despair on a day to stand up and be counted?
Who's going to rise the highest?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Let us pop into the chamber, the room of discussion
when it comes to the Sports Fixed podcast.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
To this said, the ruin of disgust of what's going
on in this chamber.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Brother, that's a different podcast. You've seen my episode lists
on my podcast feed. We digress. The chamber is where
we talk about authors sport. Interested to hear from Scott Weenink,
there has to be a free to wear element, not
just for cricket these days, disk, but for all professional sport. Yes,
the broadcast revenue is important, and yes you get less

(11:01):
of that if you put some of your sport on
free to wear. But you have to do it, don't you.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
It's about engaging people, it's about getting them in front.
I like to call it a lost leader and you
would have heard that from the supermarket speak if you
will say, Okay, we're not making any money at that,
but man, we're going to get people through the door.
And that's the key thing with this. And they've seen
the numbers go and I think with Spark and it
was brave at the time when they did it, but
I understand why they did and moving into TV and Z,

(11:28):
it's like, Okay, people actually do want to see this game.
And I don't know if they thought that was the case.
So it was almost like it was an occurrence that
they didn't think was going to happen, but it did.
And now they've worked with it and they've capitalized on it,
which is really really important. What do they say, put
the fan at the center of.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
The room, that's at the center of the conversation, and
that means every fan, not just a fan who can
afford Sky sport. But you know, like if you take
it back to our childhood, dost that the sports that
we grew to love were the ones we could see,
and most of the time that was on television.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Right, you can't be it if you can't see it.
It's really really someone. I love the way it's reverting
to that. I mean, I'm a fan of that's going
back to sky Use. I like the fact that it's
all on that. I love my new Skybox. It's so cool,
i'd say new. I'm a very late developer before I
got it, but I like it all on pretty much
the same platform. That's all the international stuff anyway, And

(12:24):
when it comes to Super Smash, that's up, free to
wear it, fantastic watch that.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
You're still getting to watch cricket on TV. You're right,
so that's important. All right, let's talk some super rugby.
Round two is underway tonight. A couple of unbeaten sides,
Chiefs Crusaders. How you feeling in Red and Black Country.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well, this is always a really nervous fixture and it
used to be about Auckland Canterbury, but I think that
disappeared years ago. The whole Chiefs Crusaders rivalry. Now there's
actually a bit of anguish, a bit of aggression, a
bit of it's quite tough, and I like that from
both of those places. So we're looking at it. A
lot of people involved in Super Rugby fantasy, they've all

(13:01):
pitched Namie McKenzie to hope that he tears it a
part again. As a Crusaders fan, there was no way
I can pick a chieved it, tear it up. He
must collapse. This has got so much on it because
if the Crusaders end up going two on the bounce
and they beat the Chiefs, who in that second half
was lucky enough to be eating Park last week they
rolled on their bomb squad, if you will, that was

(13:23):
quite something to behold. So if the Crusaders can stop
them in their tracks, that'll say a whole lot about
their prospects this season. And that looked the second week
in and already there's these key matchups right across the board.
I don't even think they thought it'd go so well
at the start.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Right, There's no way they did. There's no way they
did it. And look high scoring close encounters last week.
You know, biggest margin the game he just talked about
eleven points between the Chiefs and the Blues. All of
the other games were in single digits, but so many tries.
I don't think we're going to see a triyfes tonight.
This ain't a forty five forty four game. But I
am so intrigued, in particular from a Crusader's point of view,

(13:59):
but also from a Chiefs point of view. Chiefs, probably
the best team two seasons ago, lost in the Grand Final.
Probably with the Blues the best team last year lost
in the Grand Final. You have to lose two to
win one.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I thought you just had to lose one.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
That's what I thought too, So I turned over by
the Blues last season in the final.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well the Blues did to them last year what the
Crusaders did the Blues the year before. Yes, Also, what's
going to happen this time around? It's going to be
a I don't know who's going to be in the final?
Who's going to be?

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Do?

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I still think the Chiefs are favorites to win the
whole thing. I watched the Blues last week against the Chiefs,
and it's one game, it's a small sample size, but
I still think the Chiefs have the best roster and
with Damien McKenzie, look, oh i'll give you tonight. I
don't want him to run over the top of your
crusaders tonight. But he is a very very very important
super rugby player for the Chiefs, but.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
For me and looking toward All Black representation, which is
where all this funnels into, you need to see consistency
from Damien McKenzie. You need to know that he's going
to provide. He's going to be the man every time
he goes on them, and you is the keyword. You
trust him to make the right decisions and do the

(15:06):
right thing. It's super level, yep. At All Black level.
Maybe not, but he needs to set that platform and
now he knows it's between him and Bowden Barrett. This
is going to do a lot for his game and
Boden's game. It's it's mouth watering.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Quick word on the derby. I've already given you my
thoughts on the podcast, but will you take an interest
in the derby tomorrow? Wellington still wearing yellow and black
when it comes to football.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, I am, I am, I'm not, haven't got it
on today, but I do have that shirt at home.
It's another sell out. It's astonishing and we spoke about
the nature of the NRL and how to be nice
to have something similar with the Warriors versus someone else
and Cameron George from the No No, No five, ten,
fifteen years. I'll stop it. I get they want to

(15:50):
protect their patch. I completely understand that, but it needs
to look out his window tomorrow at Go Media Stadium
and go wow, because I think it lifts everybody. And
that's what we've seen. It's another sell out game. Kraka,
A bit of fighting talk going on there. We want
to go through on the bounce. We're going to roll
you right the way through. And of course makarrothas back
off the bench for the Phoenix, so that's that's huge

(16:12):
for them.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, what a what a what a game? And Prospect
can't wait to be among the sold outcrowd there at
I'll be.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Listening because I can't go through in a yellow jump
because I might not get out, So I'll be watching
it from the comfort and safety of my own living room.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Neutral colors for me tomorrow at Go Media. It's a
very busy sporting weekend. We can't wait to wrap it
for you.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Oh you've forgot the supercars. I'll shut up now.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
We can't wait to wrap it for you right across
the weekend on News Talks heed.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Be dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine
and Darcy Watergrave.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
And that is us for the Sports Fix podcast for today.
But speaking of news Talks heed B, we've got you covered.
As far as news talks HEADB, sport is concerned across
the weekend and across the week Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Well, Jason of course has got week in sport from
at midday three o'clock both Saturday and Sunday. Then we
job share from Monday through till Friday seven to eight
at night with Sports Talk, always keen to bring you
the best when we can how we can, with the
best guests as well. Interestingly, had Joe Parker on the
show yesterday. I'm glad we got on then because of

(17:18):
course overnight it all change. So this weekend is no
longer fighting for that belt. That's the nature, the movable
feast that is sport, and if you want to keep
up with that, you need to listen to this podcast.
And of course Piney and myself on News Talks B.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I thought you were trying to edge us back into
the chamber there for a second. Another with another discussion point.
There's no time.

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