March 4, 2025 • 17 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Tuesday March 4 2025, Black Caps coach Gary Stead looks at the South African threat, examines if Santner coped well with his new role as captain - and was the Indian defeat a good thing?
D’Arcy questions the point of some aspects of the judicial process, particularly the relevance of World Rugby’s coaching intervention programme...Tackle school? Really?
Alex Powell, NZ Herald's online sport editor, joins D’Arcy to chew the fat and shares his thoughts and opinions on Hoskins Sotutu’s punishment and the Champions Trophy.
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Sports Fix podcast from News Talk ZB. It is for Tuesday,
the fourth of Mark twenty twenty five. On Darcy Water
gave around first cab Off the rank on the Fixes,
head coach of the black Caps ahead of their sing
final Mantik in South Africa. It's Garry Steve, digital sports
(00:41):
editor form you said on the Herald, Alex Powell joins
us in the chamber to chen wag about some big
sports stories. Oh, share an opinion with you around the
craziness behind tackle School and how that affected sanctions when
it comes to red and yellow cards. That's our plan,
so let's get amongst.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
In other news.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And in a snapshot of Sport Today, White standing skip
of season Baits has laid it on the line for
some of the new blood and the team. They play
Sri Lanka in a three match ODII series with the
trier of Emma McLeod, Brie Illing and Izzy Sharp seek
to make their debuts. There's bring you on the line
for them. With the World Cup squad for India and
(01:26):
the Selecta's crosshairs.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
We've had so many people put their hands up in
domestic cricket with volume of runs taking wickets, so as
limited opportunities to give people a crack at this level,
so we get our best World Cup squad.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Brity have goals, but injury thrown into the mix as well.
After a four all draw against Adelaide ORFC have last
max matter, coach Corriker explains, for how long for the
next couple of weeks. Probably he's done his calf, so
hopefully he'll be ready once.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Obviously South the Central Coast game, we have a couple
of weeks off with the international week and should be
back after that. Dan Hockey and ZED have to be
measured when it comes to the blackstick funding. The women
have won the Nation's Cup and now qualify for the
Pro League, but can Hockey afford it? In Mapleston talks
through the next step.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Well, the team enjoy this moment and then when they
get back to New Zealand, we'll have those conversations about,
you know, whether we can financially afford it, but also
whether it's the right foot for the program and the
development of the team as we look towards the twenty
twenty six World Cup and ultimately the twenty twenty Ola.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And that's sport today.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Use Kennedy, It's Sportsfix with Dancy Valdegrave.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Super Rugby Pacific has been fantastic so far. Defensively not great,
but on attack sensational. Let's look though, at a real
bugbear for a lot of people yellow cards. Red cards,
which of course are a necessary evil in this game.
Let's take a look at the example this week with
the judiciary in Hoskins SETUTU number eight for the Blues
(03:05):
after being cited. The Super Rugby Foul Play Review Committee
found that Hoskins was in contraventional lower nine point one
three and they suspended him for three matches, which is
perfectly fine. The tackle itself is a mid range entry
point and it could have warranted a band of six weeks.
(03:26):
Here's where things get annoying for me and I'm sure
for you as well. They take into account his previous
disciplinary record when deciding how long he sat down for,
which is understandable, as well as the foul play being
mitigated by Peter Larkey changing his running line. That understandable
as well. So they've halved a suspension to three weeks.
(03:48):
What gets me is this, if Setutu successfully completes World
Rugby's Coaching Intervention Program, he will drop another week off
the suspension. He will drop another week off his suspension,
which takes it down to two weeks. He's basically being
sent to tackle school. Can you remember a time when
(04:09):
someone failed tackle school? Can you remember when the judiciary
came out and said, you know what, he didn't listen,
he knows how to tackle. Well, we're not entirely sure
he took anything on board, so we're not going to
take that week off three weeks. Sit down for you, Hoskins, Setutu.
It should be mandatory that all of the players, once
(04:29):
they have committed a tackle that's dragged them in front
of the judiciary, have to run through World Rugby's Coaching
Intervention Program Tackle School. They should do that by default,
and we shouldn't hear about it, and they shouldn't have
a week taken off their suspension for successfully completing said course.
(04:52):
Do it complete it, have success, but it should not
come into any form of judiciary decision when it comes
to Super Rugby Pacific, just stop it. You know what
the players have to do, they know how to tackle,
You know what you have to say to them when
they catch themselves in trouble. But we don't want to
hear about it and we don't want it used as
an excuse to take time off their sanction.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's Sportsfix with Darcy Waldegrave.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
A day out from the semi final and the Champions
Trophy one day tournament up against the South Africans. We
joined now by black Caps head coach Gary Stead here
on the Sports FIXE.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Gary, Hi, Darcy, You'll.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Be extraordinarily excited about another semi final opportunity in an
international and ICC event. This has almost become habitual, so
comfort to a degree for you and your team knowing
what you face.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
Look, it's always nice to reach the stage of the tournament.
I think whenever you enter a tournament, you know that
if you get to the stage, you get to.
Speaker 9 (06:02):
The knockout type round. In a tournament like this, where.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
I guess every result is important, it is important you
start well and I think our lead into it was
very good and the way we started against Pakistan was
great as well, so puts you in I guess, on
the right foot going into the tournament.
Speaker 9 (06:23):
So look, we're really excited to be here.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
Whenever you get to this stage, you've got i think
four very very deserving and very good teams that enter
this final stage. So we'll have an eye on the
game today in Deafs Australia, but sort of preparing also
for what we do tomorrow against South Africa.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You talk about leading and preparation and you Zell and
Cricket have been accused before of maybe not giving the
team the best chance to compete in some tournaments, not
this time around. The lead up, the build up, I
don't know how pre planned that was, but if you're
in a position to do well there against the opposition
you've got it's on a plate for you.
Speaker 9 (07:01):
Gary, Yeah, it was very good prep.
Speaker 8 (07:04):
I mean the tri series we had immediately before was timely.
I think if you look at the amount of Odie
Eye cricket that's been played before this by most countries,
it hasn't been a lot. So I think whenever you
can get in that same country and play on the
same pitches that we will play on, absolutely it's in advantage.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You got beaten by Indie, which means you didn't have
to play Australia either, or you've got to beat two
teams to get through and win the trophy. But was
that a dulling almost? Was that almost necessary for your guys.
Speaker 9 (07:37):
I don't think so.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
I think for large parts of that game we actually
played some really good cricket.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
I said to the boys.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
I thought it was one of the best fielding displays
I've ever seen by a Black catch unit.
Speaker 9 (07:49):
I thought this is some sensational catching.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
I thought we stuck really really well to our bowling
plans as well, and I mean just about on any
pitch if you can restrict that India team to two
point fifty and with a little bit of luck, it
could have been a few less if.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
Pandya didn't get going for example near end. So I
thought we bowled well.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
We struggled a little bit with Varren Chatravaki as well,
that a lot of our players hadn't seen before or
faced live, and he's a bit of a unique spinner
the way he bowls. But I'm sure if we do
play India again in the future will be better for
that experience as well.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Garristed joining us talking Champions Trophy cricket. What about the
new captain Mitch Santner. How's his I shouldn't really call
it an apprenticeship, but he's new in the role as
the full time captain of the one day side. How's
that development going for you and the team and him?
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Look, I think Mitch has walked in reasonably seamlessly, to
be honest, He's obviously has a lot of experience. I
think he has a lot of mana within our dressing
room as well, and the way he's been leading the side,
I think his decision making on the field has been
on points. So look, I've been really happy with him.
I know the team's running around him helping where he is,
(09:04):
but he's still strong enough, intelligent enough to have his
own ideas out there and put has been on the game.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
So I think that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
And a leader, You're looking for someone that will be
upfront and others and follow and I think his performances
have been standing up.
Speaker 9 (09:18):
To that test.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And he can be quite sneaky in his decision making too.
He's definitely his own captain and his own man. I
don't think he feels like he's carrying the weight of
Captain's gone before he knows. It's his opportunity to say, hey,
this is what I can do, and he's not afraid
of putting it out there.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
No, that's right.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
And as you say, Mitch is his own man. He's
got his own thought patterns around how he wants to play.
And I think he's reading the game very well as well.
And look, there's always small differences. You might say, did
you consider this? Would you have tried that? And when
you have those conversations with Mitch, he is thinking about
them as well, So it's not just a one way
(09:56):
or a one style that he has. He's adaptable and
I guess Malia ball as well. So look, we have
some very good conversations around the game, the way it's
been played and the way we want to play as well.
And I think on the whole we've been sticking to
that very.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Well, extraordinary, dangerous, dangerous to underestimate the strength of South Africa.
Very different team from the team that you played beforehand.
But I'm sure you're not going into this thinking their
records no good. When it comes to semi finals, we've
got this, You've got to understand what they bring. So
on that, what do they bring, what are their big threats?
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Gary Look, in my opinion though one of the strongest
teams in the world at the moment. They are very
very well balanced. They have a very good mix of
pace bowlers. They have variety and their pace bowlers as
well left arm, right arm, tall skiddier bowlers, and then
a couple of spinners and Shamsi and Maharaj who are
very skillful as well. Their batting has a nice mix.
(10:52):
I think also of some power the likes of a
class and a miller who finished games off, but also
batsmanship at the top to get them to scores. So look,
in many ways, I look at them and look at
the makeup of our team and see there's some real
similarities between them and in the way the games are played.
So my views, it just comes down to winning key
(11:14):
moments on the field and holding your nerve under pressure,
and that's certainly something that we try and do every game,
but I think when you reach the semi final stage
it becomes even more important.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
The chamber is now in session on Sports Fix.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
We'll joined in the chamber now by Alex Powell. He's
the digital sport editor for New Zealand, Harold Welcome on
into the studio. I trust you.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Well, good day mate, I'm well, how are you?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Oh good? I'm still a bit enraged. I'm raged. How's
the judiciary in super Rugby. I've talked about this in
my opinion piece, but what is with this go to
tackle school? I don't understand why it's there. Please shed
some light on it for me, mate.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
I mean, the short answer is, I'm just like you.
I've got no idea what it's about. You go and
you do some World Rugby sanction course where you learn
how to tackle, because as a professional rugby player, you
don't know that.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I suddenly forgot busting off the loose that I'm supposed
to take a guy's head off.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
I mean, and fair playd to Hoskins too too. The
review committee found that there was enough mitigation in that
tackle with Peter Larkeye with Peter Lukey to cut it,
to cut it from six weeks down to three because
he had a good record. He's not really a dirty
player like I feel like if it Coss Coinstad it was,
we'd know by now. He's been around the scene for
long enough. But you're right, It just doesn't really make
(12:28):
too much. And it's like, I'd love to know what
goes on. Would you you stand around the laptop and
it shows you one video of a guy tackling someone
and another guy getting his head taken on the click
which one is the right thing to do? I mean,
if it's anything like the videos we have to do
once a month for HR training, I meant to be
quite a laugh.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
True, but for them to bring it up, but it's
them saying, look, we're very much on top of this,
We're very much across this. That didn't you just doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter. Just started it five weeks and go backwards
from the don't tell us.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
That recond that hit deserved five weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well with mitigating circumstance, maybe it didn't two weeks, three weeks.
I get it. They've got to put down a line
in the sand and go, look, it might be a mistake,
but it's not about why you did it or how
you went about it. It's about the result of what
you did. I mean, you can't control all of it.
So there you go, there's your line on the scene.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
And I think that's what's ultimately happened is they've they've said, look,
this is dangerous, but we recognize there was not a
lot you could have done. So we've looked at the
six week punishment and thought that's probably not fair. We've
looked at a three week punishment and said, yep, that's
what it's going to be in reflection of that, and
then they've gone, but if you do this and show
us that you are prepared to learn what you did wrong,
it'll be too.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Who's ever failed that?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Though?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I mean it's a given right well to learn?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Surely?
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Is it a pass or fail thing?
Speaker 8 (13:44):
Is it?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
You just sit there and watch a DVD?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yes, I would say so.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
No one watches DVD and no one fails.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Right, may either get a beta tape on it? Next?
We I think, like yourself community in this three for
what they did in this case, right, what do we
do here? Here's your starting point that at that, but
leave the tackles school out of it. Let's go to
a game where there's no tackling yet.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
New Zealand PCE South Africa.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You never know, well the semi final here in New
Zealand find themselves again in a situation where they're in
a semi final of a major one day tournament or
an ICC based to theament, probably dodged a bullet by
losing to India. I'm sure that wasn't the purpose of
them falling over. But in that case, are we underestimating
(14:28):
the possibility of South Africa by merely saying dodge the
bullet with India?
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Well, I mean if the alternative is playing Australia in
a knockout, then yeah, I think they might have dodged
a bullet because there's no such thing as a week
Australian team in a tournament, even though they're missing our
bowling attack.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But you're right.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
I look at the South African team and I think
that's a bloody good team. New Zealand will do well
to get up here. But we know that South Africa
fall apart in these situations.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
They've got that record, haven't they.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
I think, what is it, seven semi finals and they've
only won one.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And they've also been bounced around the Middle East, and
that is not ideal. When you look to India and
the ridiculous power they have over the ICC, the BCCI,
it's really hard to start. We're not going to Pakistan,
so we're going to play all of our games here.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Do we need to explain that what's happened there?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, please do so.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Right to be as brief as I can, India is
not going to Pakistan because of the way that the
tournament was set up. We knew that whoever finished first
would have to play one plays two versus two plays one.
We didn't know which of New Zealander India was going
to finish top of that group. So they flew both
of the two teams from the other group into to
Dubai because one of them would have to stay and
(15:41):
play India and the other one just sort of went
and did a round trip Pakistan Dubai back to Pakistan.
That was South Africa. Who are we playing music?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Not ideal for anyone? Can fast thank you. That's probably
better than not ideal. The fact that they get so
many advantages. Let me know, there's issues between Pakistan and India.
So if you're really that concerned about take don't give
the hosting rights.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
So Pakistan, I mean, I'm not buying that. Kastan Re
awarded that tournament or this tournament in November twenty twenty one.
India didn't say we are definitely not going until Christmas
Day twenty twenty four. You know, for four years they
knew this is what the plan is, and then at
the last minute they said no, we're not going because
they knew it would screw buck Stanover. That's not on.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
And I think that the more this occurs, the more
people revel in India when they get wiped out in
big finals. And let's hope that's the case. First step
South Africa. Then all well and good, we're going to
beat up on India on Sunday night or Australia or Australia,
we don't know, but we're there. We've got a chance.
(16:46):
Alex Powell's a digital sport editor for it, and he
said on Herell, thanks very much for your time in
your opinion.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
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It be get en, Ladies and gentlemen. This is the
Sports Fix podcast from News Talk ZB. It is for Tuesday,
the fourth of Mark twenty twenty five. On Darcy Water
gave around first cab Off the rank on the Fixes,
head coach of the black Caps ahead of their sing
final Mantik in South Africa. It's Garry Steve, digital sports
(00:41):
editor form you said on the Herald, Alex Powell joins
us in the chamber to chen wag about some big
sports stories. Oh, share an opinion with you around the
craziness behind tackle School and how that affected sanctions when
it comes to red and yellow cards. That's our plan,
so let's get amongst.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
In other news.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And in a snapshot of Sport Today, White standing skip
of season Baits has laid it on the line for
some of the new blood and the team. They play
Sri Lanka in a three match ODII series with the
trier of Emma McLeod, Brie Illing and Izzy Sharp seek
to make their debuts. There's bring you on the line
for them. With the World Cup squad for India and
(01:26):
the Selecta's crosshairs.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
We've had so many people put their hands up in
domestic cricket with volume of runs taking wickets, so as
limited opportunities to give people a crack at this level,
so we get our best World Cup squad.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Brity have goals, but injury thrown into the mix as well.
After a four all draw against Adelaide ORFC have last
max matter, coach Corriker explains, for how long for the
next couple of weeks. Probably he's done his calf, so
hopefully he'll be ready once.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Obviously South the Central Coast game, we have a couple
of weeks off with the international week and should be
back after that. Dan Hockey and ZED have to be
measured when it comes to the blackstick funding. The women
have won the Nation's Cup and now qualify for the
Pro League, but can Hockey afford it? In Mapleston talks
through the next step.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Well, the team enjoy this moment and then when they
get back to New Zealand, we'll have those conversations about,
you know, whether we can financially afford it, but also
whether it's the right foot for the program and the
development of the team as we look towards the twenty
twenty six World Cup and ultimately the twenty twenty Ola.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And that's sport today.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Use Kennedy, It's Sportsfix with Dancy Valdegrave.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Super Rugby Pacific has been fantastic so far. Defensively not great,
but on attack sensational. Let's look though, at a real
bugbear for a lot of people yellow cards. Red cards,
which of course are a necessary evil in this game.
Let's take a look at the example this week with
the judiciary in Hoskins SETUTU number eight for the Blues
(03:05):
after being cited. The Super Rugby Foul Play Review Committee
found that Hoskins was in contraventional lower nine point one
three and they suspended him for three matches, which is
perfectly fine. The tackle itself is a mid range entry
point and it could have warranted a band of six weeks.
(03:26):
Here's where things get annoying for me and I'm sure
for you as well. They take into account his previous
disciplinary record when deciding how long he sat down for,
which is understandable, as well as the foul play being
mitigated by Peter Larkey changing his running line. That understandable
as well. So they've halved a suspension to three weeks.
(03:48):
What gets me is this, if Setutu successfully completes World
Rugby's Coaching Intervention Program, he will drop another week off
the suspension. He will drop another week off his suspension,
which takes it down to two weeks. He's basically being
sent to tackle school. Can you remember a time when
(04:09):
someone failed tackle school? Can you remember when the judiciary
came out and said, you know what, he didn't listen,
he knows how to tackle. Well, we're not entirely sure
he took anything on board, so we're not going to
take that week off three weeks. Sit down for you, Hoskins, Setutu.
It should be mandatory that all of the players, once
(04:29):
they have committed a tackle that's dragged them in front
of the judiciary, have to run through World Rugby's Coaching
Intervention Program Tackle School. They should do that by default,
and we shouldn't hear about it, and they shouldn't have
a week taken off their suspension for successfully completing said course.
(04:52):
Do it complete it, have success, but it should not
come into any form of judiciary decision when it comes
to Super Rugby Pacific, just stop it. You know what
the players have to do, they know how to tackle,
You know what you have to say to them when
they catch themselves in trouble. But we don't want to
hear about it and we don't want it used as
an excuse to take time off their sanction.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's Sportsfix with Darcy Waldegrave.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
A day out from the semi final and the Champions
Trophy one day tournament up against the South Africans. We
joined now by black Caps head coach Gary Stead here
on the Sports FIXE.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Gary, Hi, Darcy, You'll.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Be extraordinarily excited about another semi final opportunity in an
international and ICC event. This has almost become habitual, so
comfort to a degree for you and your team knowing
what you face.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
Look, it's always nice to reach the stage of the tournament.
I think whenever you enter a tournament, you know that
if you get to the stage, you get to.
Speaker 9 (06:02):
The knockout type round. In a tournament like this, where.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
I guess every result is important, it is important you
start well and I think our lead into it was
very good and the way we started against Pakistan was
great as well, so puts you in I guess, on
the right foot going into the tournament.
Speaker 9 (06:23):
So look, we're really excited to be here.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
Whenever you get to this stage, you've got i think
four very very deserving and very good teams that enter
this final stage. So we'll have an eye on the
game today in Deafs Australia, but sort of preparing also
for what we do tomorrow against South Africa.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You talk about leading and preparation and you Zell and
Cricket have been accused before of maybe not giving the
team the best chance to compete in some tournaments, not
this time around. The lead up, the build up, I
don't know how pre planned that was, but if you're
in a position to do well there against the opposition
you've got it's on a plate for you.
Speaker 9 (07:01):
Gary, Yeah, it was very good prep.
Speaker 8 (07:04):
I mean the tri series we had immediately before was timely.
I think if you look at the amount of Odie
Eye cricket that's been played before this by most countries,
it hasn't been a lot. So I think whenever you
can get in that same country and play on the
same pitches that we will play on, absolutely it's in advantage.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You got beaten by Indie, which means you didn't have
to play Australia either, or you've got to beat two
teams to get through and win the trophy. But was
that a dulling almost? Was that almost necessary for your guys.
Speaker 9 (07:37):
I don't think so.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
I think for large parts of that game we actually
played some really good cricket.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
I said to the boys.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
I thought it was one of the best fielding displays
I've ever seen by a Black catch unit.
Speaker 9 (07:49):
I thought this is some sensational catching.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
I thought we stuck really really well to our bowling
plans as well, and I mean just about on any
pitch if you can restrict that India team to two
point fifty and with a little bit of luck, it
could have been a few less if.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
Pandya didn't get going for example near end. So I
thought we bowled well.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
We struggled a little bit with Varren Chatravaki as well,
that a lot of our players hadn't seen before or
faced live, and he's a bit of a unique spinner
the way he bowls. But I'm sure if we do
play India again in the future will be better for
that experience as well.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Garristed joining us talking Champions Trophy cricket. What about the
new captain Mitch Santner. How's his I shouldn't really call
it an apprenticeship, but he's new in the role as
the full time captain of the one day side. How's
that development going for you and the team and him?
Speaker 8 (08:44):
Look, I think Mitch has walked in reasonably seamlessly, to
be honest, He's obviously has a lot of experience. I
think he has a lot of mana within our dressing
room as well, and the way he's been leading the side,
I think his decision making on the field has been
on points. So look, I've been really happy with him.
I know the team's running around him helping where he is,
(09:04):
but he's still strong enough, intelligent enough to have his
own ideas out there and put has been on the game.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
So I think that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
And a leader, You're looking for someone that will be
upfront and others and follow and I think his performances
have been standing up.
Speaker 9 (09:18):
To that test.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And he can be quite sneaky in his decision making too.
He's definitely his own captain and his own man. I
don't think he feels like he's carrying the weight of
Captain's gone before he knows. It's his opportunity to say, hey,
this is what I can do, and he's not afraid
of putting it out there.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
No, that's right.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
And as you say, Mitch is his own man. He's
got his own thought patterns around how he wants to play.
And I think he's reading the game very well as well.
And look, there's always small differences. You might say, did
you consider this? Would you have tried that? And when
you have those conversations with Mitch, he is thinking about
them as well, So it's not just a one way
(09:56):
or a one style that he has. He's adaptable and
I guess Malia ball as well. So look, we have
some very good conversations around the game, the way it's
been played and the way we want to play as well.
And I think on the whole we've been sticking to
that very.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Well, extraordinary, dangerous, dangerous to underestimate the strength of South Africa.
Very different team from the team that you played beforehand.
But I'm sure you're not going into this thinking their
records no good. When it comes to semi finals, we've
got this, You've got to understand what they bring. So
on that, what do they bring, what are their big threats?
Speaker 8 (10:29):
Gary Look, in my opinion though one of the strongest
teams in the world at the moment. They are very
very well balanced. They have a very good mix of
pace bowlers. They have variety and their pace bowlers as
well left arm, right arm, tall skiddier bowlers, and then
a couple of spinners and Shamsi and Maharaj who are
very skillful as well. Their batting has a nice mix.
(10:52):
I think also of some power the likes of a
class and a miller who finished games off, but also
batsmanship at the top to get them to scores. So look,
in many ways, I look at them and look at
the makeup of our team and see there's some real
similarities between them and in the way the games are played.
So my views, it just comes down to winning key
(11:14):
moments on the field and holding your nerve under pressure,
and that's certainly something that we try and do every game,
but I think when you reach the semi final stage
it becomes even more important.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
The chamber is now in session on Sports Fix.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
We'll joined in the chamber now by Alex Powell. He's
the digital sport editor for New Zealand, Harold Welcome on
into the studio. I trust you.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Well, good day mate, I'm well, how are you?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Oh good? I'm still a bit enraged. I'm raged. How's
the judiciary in super Rugby. I've talked about this in
my opinion piece, but what is with this go to
tackle school? I don't understand why it's there. Please shed
some light on it for me, mate.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
I mean, the short answer is, I'm just like you.
I've got no idea what it's about. You go and
you do some World Rugby sanction course where you learn
how to tackle, because as a professional rugby player, you
don't know that.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I suddenly forgot busting off the loose that I'm supposed
to take a guy's head off.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
I mean, and fair playd to Hoskins too too. The
review committee found that there was enough mitigation in that
tackle with Peter Larkeye with Peter Lukey to cut it,
to cut it from six weeks down to three because
he had a good record. He's not really a dirty
player like I feel like if it Coss Coinstad it was,
we'd know by now. He's been around the scene for
long enough. But you're right, It just doesn't really make
(12:28):
too much. And it's like, I'd love to know what
goes on. Would you you stand around the laptop and
it shows you one video of a guy tackling someone
and another guy getting his head taken on the click
which one is the right thing to do? I mean,
if it's anything like the videos we have to do
once a month for HR training, I meant to be
quite a laugh.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
True, but for them to bring it up, but it's
them saying, look, we're very much on top of this,
We're very much across this. That didn't you just doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter. Just started it five weeks and go backwards
from the don't tell us.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
That recond that hit deserved five weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well with mitigating circumstance, maybe it didn't two weeks, three weeks.
I get it. They've got to put down a line
in the sand and go, look, it might be a mistake,
but it's not about why you did it or how
you went about it. It's about the result of what
you did. I mean, you can't control all of it.
So there you go, there's your line on the scene.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
And I think that's what's ultimately happened is they've they've said, look,
this is dangerous, but we recognize there was not a
lot you could have done. So we've looked at the
six week punishment and thought that's probably not fair. We've
looked at a three week punishment and said, yep, that's
what it's going to be in reflection of that, and
then they've gone, but if you do this and show
us that you are prepared to learn what you did wrong,
it'll be too.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Who's ever failed that?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Though?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I mean it's a given right well to learn?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Surely?
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Is it a pass or fail thing?
Speaker 8 (13:44):
Is it?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
You just sit there and watch a DVD?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yes, I would say so.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
No one watches DVD and no one fails.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Right, may either get a beta tape on it? Next?
We I think, like yourself community in this three for
what they did in this case, right, what do we
do here? Here's your starting point that at that, but
leave the tackles school out of it. Let's go to
a game where there's no tackling yet.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
New Zealand PCE South Africa.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
You never know, well the semi final here in New
Zealand find themselves again in a situation where they're in
a semi final of a major one day tournament or
an ICC based to theament, probably dodged a bullet by
losing to India. I'm sure that wasn't the purpose of
them falling over. But in that case, are we underestimating
(14:28):
the possibility of South Africa by merely saying dodge the
bullet with India?
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Well, I mean if the alternative is playing Australia in
a knockout, then yeah, I think they might have dodged
a bullet because there's no such thing as a week
Australian team in a tournament, even though they're missing our
bowling attack.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
But you're right.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
I look at the South African team and I think
that's a bloody good team. New Zealand will do well
to get up here. But we know that South Africa
fall apart in these situations.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
They've got that record, haven't they.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
I think, what is it, seven semi finals and they've
only won one.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And they've also been bounced around the Middle East, and
that is not ideal. When you look to India and
the ridiculous power they have over the ICC, the BCCI,
it's really hard to start. We're not going to Pakistan,
so we're going to play all of our games here.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Do we need to explain that what's happened there?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, please do so.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Right to be as brief as I can, India is
not going to Pakistan because of the way that the
tournament was set up. We knew that whoever finished first
would have to play one plays two versus two plays one.
We didn't know which of New Zealander India was going
to finish top of that group. So they flew both
of the two teams from the other group into to
Dubai because one of them would have to stay and
(15:41):
play India and the other one just sort of went
and did a round trip Pakistan Dubai back to Pakistan.
That was South Africa. Who are we playing music?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Not ideal for anyone? Can fast thank you. That's probably
better than not ideal. The fact that they get so
many advantages. Let me know, there's issues between Pakistan and India.
So if you're really that concerned about take don't give
the hosting rights.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
So Pakistan, I mean, I'm not buying that. Kastan Re
awarded that tournament or this tournament in November twenty twenty one.
India didn't say we are definitely not going until Christmas
Day twenty twenty four. You know, for four years they
knew this is what the plan is, and then at
the last minute they said no, we're not going because
they knew it would screw buck Stanover. That's not on.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
And I think that the more this occurs, the more
people revel in India when they get wiped out in
big finals. And let's hope that's the case. First step
South Africa. Then all well and good, we're going to
beat up on India on Sunday night or Australia or Australia,
we don't know, but we're there. We've got a chance.
(16:46):
Alex Powell's a digital sport editor for it, and he
said on Herell, thanks very much for your time in
your opinion.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Thanks very mean money.
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