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June 12, 2025 • 17 mins

On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 12th June 2025, it's a double hit in the Sports Fix podcast as D'Arcy is joined by Crusaders assistant coach Matt Todd and flanker Tom Christie as they look forward to their semi finals match against the Blues.

D'Arcy can hardly contain his excitement for the US Golf Open at Oakmont.

And the lads are in the chamber to discuss the World Test Championship final.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello there, and welcome into the Sports Fox Podcast. We
appreciate you downloading the latest episode. We're here in association
with GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.
I'm Jason pine My.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Name's Darcy Waldegrave Berry. Relaxed now I've got Piney back
and tail again. The workloaders have from Tuesday and Wednesday
thanks to having you back, Binney. I'm just being honest, mate,
just being honest.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Look, honesty's the best policy I think in these situations,
and I find the same on a Monday. If I'm
brutally honest with you, I think two heads are better
than one. When it comes to the Sports Fox Podcast,
lots to get through today. I want to talk about
this possibility of Free to Wear NPC in the next broadcast.
Deal some thoughts on the World Test Championship. I know
you've got some thoughts on the golf. Who is our

(01:05):
guest today, Hoody.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
We're going to double act today. We go to two
fantastic open side flankers, one coaching one still playing out
of the Crusaders. We're joined by Matt Todd and Tom
Christy looking forward to that. Okay, let's get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
In other news, let's get you started with some of
the big sports stories around today. Mitchell Stark has led
an Australian fight back late on a pace dominated opening
day of Cricket's World Test Championship Finals. South Africa are
forty three for four at stumps. Then, in response to
Australia's two hundred and twelve all out bo webs the

(01:43):
top scored for Australia with seventy two up. Only attachment
so strong over a number of years now we.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Know if we don't quite get it done with the
big boys can certainly get it done with the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
And you know, we saw how much it was moving
around early and when you were it was going to
be tough for this, I thought about, is it Taranaky?
You have successfully defended the ran Furley Shield for the
first time this year, accounting for King Country in New
Plymouth last night.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
And Taranaki walk away with a really good performance here
seventy eight points to seven.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
It was the first match played at the newly renovated
Stadium Taranaki in New Plymouth and Ricco Yuan is spicy.
Social media post have been welcomed by Crusaders prop George
Bauer ahead of tomorrow night Super Rugby semi final against
the Blues and christ Church.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Been good for the game. It gets a bit of
hypervellent games as well. And if you don't watch rank men,
you see a bit of it, you're like, wow, that's
actually I'm going.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
To tune in now because I'm seeing a bit of
this and that kind of been a foustale.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is Sportsfix, your daily dose of sports news, how
and by news talks.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Hebby breaking new ground here on the Sports Fix podcast.
We're going to get two players now to chat to,
both from the Crusaders. One a former open side is
now an assistant coach Matt Todd. The other is a
current open side in the Crusaders. His name is Tom
Christy and Tom, these are the fixtures that really get

(03:06):
your attention. Blue and Whine the reading black from the
old days. Anyway, now it's Crusaders the Blues. What effects you?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, I think history kind of shit there and Stone
and then we just go out there and liver. The
Blues are playing some good rugby at the moment, so
we'll just go out there and give them a lesson.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Hopefully it's the idea. They've peaked right at the right time,
haven't they. They've got their timing and I suppose they
haven't done it too late, but it's been right on
the edge. So they've got some wonderful energy there.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Mat see exactly there are time they're run nicely, I
guess you could say, and certainly they went on the
weekend very good win and you know they're proven winners.
They got the job done last year, so we know
the challenge is going to be this weekend and we're
excited about this is the tip.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Of the year.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
You want to be playing and to be playing at
home this time time a year is exciting.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
How much from a coaching perspective have you laid on
these guys after what's been achieved in the last couple
of weeks? Man? Where where do you need to push?
Where do you need to lift?

Speaker 5 (04:05):
It's a balance of tom the you know you're not
getting any further any longer this time of year. It's
just making sure everyone's clear on what they need to
do on the weekend. They're fresh and I guess the
fuel tanks that are fall for Friday night. So balancing neck.
But you know, I've had finished a good session here
in cold conditions. But no, we've had a good week
so far and there happy with whe we're out of

(04:25):
the team.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Do you look back, Tom at the enviable record of
the Crusaders when it comes to big matches like semi finals?
Do you carry that into games like this?

Speaker 4 (04:36):
I mean, it's a nice stat to have, but at
the end of the day, history doesn't actually mean anything.
You've got to start at no lowell and the best
team will go out there and one. So obviously history
is nice to have on your side. It's nice to look.
At the end of the day, it's not going to
give you anything on the field or no sort of advantage.
You've got to go out there and earn it every
time you play, and finals foot is that's what it's

(04:58):
all about.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
What did you pick up, Matt out of last week's game?
Was there anything alarming, anything of concern that you need
to tweak And of course conversely, what made you smile?

Speaker 5 (05:09):
No, there was plenty of good stuff. I think the
way that we controlled it for large parts, I think,
you know, it just showed when we went a man
down the difference it makes to those small margins at
playoff time. That's the discipline side of It's important. But
there did a lot of the basics well. We kecked well,
set peace, perform well, put them under pressure, and that's
what you need, you know, cold wet nights, those are

(05:32):
sort of the areas you need a nail. And then
when we had opportunities to take once we took them.
And we all know this time of year, you know,
the margins are smaller, so when you get opportunities, you
got to take them, and we executed pretty well on
the weekend. We want to do the same again this weekend.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
What's the chat being like Tom around the shed since
that victory? What have you guys been focused on or
do you just ignore what's going on and talking about golf,
be or something else.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of turn around golf and
a good crew always gets out on the day off.
But I think Finals forty there's only four teams lists,
so there's an element of just enjoying every day and
not taking that for granted, because we've got to go
go out and earn another week, earn another day, just
keep earning it. So, yeah, there's a lot of fun.
We have a lot of fun behind the scenes. But

(06:20):
there's a lot of hard work, a lot of rugby conversations,
and a lot of details that goes into it.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Who's got the game? Who can actually wield a club
with great success? That don't say Will Jordan. I don't
want to hear that the guy's too talented.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Wow, Well we've actually got a we've actually got an
orange hat that goes to our kind of tour leader
on the golf course every week. And to be fear
Will Jordan has played some terrible, terrible golfs this year
and he won't mind me saying that, but he did
front yesterday and had the most stable. But who's currently
the holder?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Tom Rob Penny? How's he at the moment? He'd been
trying to calm the farm, but after last season he'd
be dancing jigs, wouldn't he.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
No, he's a real level he hit a leader of
us and he does that really really well. I think
Toddy can probably touch on it more. But the way
he drives the coaching groups. Heache bring the best out
of them, but then oversees our whole program, gets around
the players, lifts, has all those little conversations around the group,
and he does that really really well.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah, I hang it. You know, obviously he's experienced coaching,
has seen a fair few winters and a fear few
different seasons and that so has been in the ups
and downs and coaching for a long time now. So
like Tom said, he keeps it nice and level headed.
You know, it goes and get too high on the
winds or too low on the losses, and keeps every
hanging perspective. And he's been great this year. And you

(07:42):
know he's excited for this weekend as we all are.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Sports overnight tonight, the US Open gets on its merry
old way and what's called one of the most brutal
and unforgiving golf courses in America and in major history globally.
Oakmond has got teeth and it bears its fans constantly.

(08:05):
It's the tenth time now that Oakmont will host the
US Open. Started back in nineteen twenty seven. The most
recent edition was back in twenty and sixteen. There have
been some legendary exchanges like back in nineteen sixty two
where Jack Necklace as a young man. Arnold Palmer actually
has a great quote around Oakmont. He said, you get

(08:27):
it seventy two greens in regulation and still not even
come close to winning. Sam Snead he said he tried
to mark his ball with a coin and the coin
slid off the green. It's not just the rough that
challenges every player, suggesting that if you get it slightly
wrong the ball will go square, such as the nature

(08:49):
of the rough and the way it strangles the club head.
But the greens, the greens are the big thing. So
you get on the greens, try to two part try to,
one part trying. It doesn't matter what you're trying to do.
It is monstrous to try and score low. That is
the challenge in front of all of these golfers. So

(09:09):
it's fair to say that the US Open presents one
of the sternest challenges in golf, and the Oakmont track
is right up there at the very top as being
one of the meanest places to play golf. I love
watching full time professionals make themselves look like amateurs, and
that's what happens in the US Open. And that's what

(09:32):
will probably happen over the next four days at Oakmont.
I'm all over it. I'm so looking forward to this
exchange because of course one Ryan Fox is going to
be teeing it up and it's seventeen dollars a bit
responsibly to be in top five position at the end.
I think that represents good value. Get a monks, big Man.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Enter the Chamber we go, and a couple of sporting
issues which have caught our respective eyes across the last
twelve to eighteen hours or so. This afternoon news drop
that matches in the NPC are on track to appear
again on free to wear television. We know that Sky
Sport and New Zealand and Rugby have been back and
forth trying to our nut out there new broadcast to

(10:19):
you or by the sounds of things, the big winners
will be the NPC and TV and Z where a
lot of NPC rugby is going to be played. This
is a win all round us in it.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
If it happens and if you try and dig deeper
and it's like we couldn't possibly comment, and if Gregor
Paul has got the scoop there's a great chance he's
one hundred percent. He very rarely gets it wrong. It's
huge for the MPC, it's great for rugby. We always
talked about this pony to be You've got to see
it and kids coming through they want to see their

(10:49):
heroes play and if it's on free to wear TV,
they get that opportunity. I suppose for me, you as well,
poney it it's the frequency on the quality of the
coverage that's what they've really got to sit with.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yep, absolutely right, and well, we don't know the nuts
and bolts, but as you say, Greg is normally on
the mark. He's reporting up to three live games across
all weekend. We'll end up on TVNZ Plus which makes
it free toware And you're so right to us. You know,
we've talked about this on the podcast before. The sports
that we have come to know and love we came
to know and love because we watch them either live

(11:24):
or on television. And if rugby is not available, then
how do people fall in love with rugby?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
And when you look at the current cost of living crisis,
we find ourselves mind. For us, it's okay, we'll pay
for Sky. We have to it's our job. You can
probably claim all of ACXL just talk to my account
and about that. But a lot of people it's an
absolute luxury to have Sky TV and they just can't
stretch to it. So free to wear national sport super important.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I see also in the article that the discussions come
as New Zealand Rugby have a chat to the provincial
unions about what the shape of the NPC might be,
a desire to encourage unions to play at smaller community venues.
I am all in on this, and in fact Wellington,
where I live, the Wellington Lions have already commit in
twenty twenty five to not play any of their MPC

(12:11):
games at Sky Stadium. They'll go to the smaller, more
intimate polyido A Park instead. This is surely the way
forward for the likes of Auckland and Canterbury and Otago.
You take them out, don't you, from the big, cavernous stadium.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
We saw that last year when a number of MPC
excuse me matches were played at smaller venues. You look
about perception and reality. Yeah, there's not as many people there,
but when you put them in a much smaller intimate setting,
it looks like there's a lot of people attending. The
energy is there, and I think, to be perfectly fair

(12:46):
to everybody outside of the main centers in the NPC districts,
that they need to have the love as well. Right,
they're just as big a part as the city slickers.
And I'm at you, Jabitt, how many of the best
players have not come from the center city. They've come
from the outskirts.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Absolutely. I love looking at the birthplaces and the education
time lines of our top players, and you're right, very
few of them actually born right in the heart of
urban New Zealand and the big cities that you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
There.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
More often than not they come from the smaller outposts.
And I love the fact that that's exactly how our
rugg rugby ecosystem works. It doesn't matter whether you were born,
you know, right in Auckland's CBD or on the you know,
in some rural outposts in the Lower South Island. You
can still rise to become an all Black, but you
must be able to see it as a young person

(13:39):
in order to be it, or at least fall in
love with it. So we wait to see what happens
with the broadcast deal and Fredaware TV. We're obviously all
in on it. Hey, World Test Championship people have forgotten
how to play five day cricket, haven't they? Even In
the World Test Championship final Australia all out to twelve
South Africa forty three for four stumps on day one.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
This is a three day Test as it could be.
What I found fascinating was the nature of the attack.
I watched the first session yesterday because I'm a tragic
and I'm bustle. It was ridiculous. I'm going to bed.
Travis Head came out with intent and then Travis Head
disappeared with a wonderful leg side catch, I might add,
but they looked away it at sea, but they looked

(14:19):
like they want to bring some aggression to the game,
and I think that's what we all want, isn't it
in Test cricket? But maybe not fourteen wickets in one day.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Which is it a bit of a green top? What
did you because South Africa one the toss and send
Australia in, which would suggest that it was doing a bit?
Was it doing a bit in that first session that
you were?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
It was and it was the right decision for South
Africa to insert them and put the pressure on them
to make some runs, especially when you look at some
of the players under pressure and Osmone Kwaja didn't last
three seconds and love with Shane struggled out there as well.
Steve Smith looked comfortable, albeit fidgety at the crease and
then he ended up scoring a decent was it sixty

(15:01):
six odd? I think it was. And old.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Bo Webster, I think is the name you're searching for.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Dad's one. Thank you very much for that bo website.
He had a seventy odd two. But I think they'll
be disappointed that they only managed to put up just
over two hundred, But that disappoint would have appointment would
have faded away once they're fast bowling. Three of them anyway,
managed to get rid of the top of the South
African order. So yeah, I'd say probably done in dusted

(15:31):
kind of sometime early on Sunday morning. Maybe yeah, it.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Might last that long.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
It's a bit of rainbe I was trying to be positive.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I know you and I love it about you. I
love it about you. We've heard your thoughts on the golf.
Some fascinating stats around this course. Just quickly Scotty Scheffer's
the favorite Bryce of d Chambeau, John Rahm and Rory
McElroy in there as well. You can get if you
bet right now. And I'm not suggesting you you have
to or want to, or I'm just given this as
an indication. You can get sixty seven dollars on Ryan

(16:01):
Fox to win it right now? Is that weather punt?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I like the seventeen dollars on finishing in the top five.
That's or I'm sitting bet responsibly and gentlemen, but are
we twenty dollars tackle on that? You know it could
be paid a because look, he's absolutely shot, he's tired,
he's done so much, but he seems to respond really
well under those pressures.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Right and I enjoyed listening to him chat to you
yesterday and extended chat on Sports Talk. You can go
back and listen to that online if you like. On
newstalk SEDB, dot co dot NZ. That is us in
the Chamber for today.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Jason Fine and
Darcy Waldgrave.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
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Speaker 3 (16:57):
I like the way you say can I'm gonna be
slightly more forceful you will maybe no, that doesn't really
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downloaded podcast if you want, but try between seven and

(17:18):
eight Monday to Friday for Sports Talk on z B.
Piney's got the job on Monday. On Tuesday through Friday,
and then Piney, You've got the whole shooting match on Saturday.
Where do we go?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, twelve to three Saturday and Sunday for weekend sport
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you say to us, interactive is the name of the game.
We love chatting to you about the sporting issues of
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you then, mate, Indeed you will mister Pine looking forward
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