November 17, 2025 • 17 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for 18th November 2025, the All Blacks' draw for the first edition of the Nations Championship was released earlier today, with three home fixtures in July and another three in November. The competition is rounded out with a finals series at the end of November at Twickenham. D'Arcy caught up with NZR Head of Tournaments and Competitions, Cameron Good, to discuss the new competition.
D'Arcy shares his thoughts on the All Blacks' loss to England.
And D'Arcy and NZ Herald head of sport Winston Aldworth discuss the All Blacks test against England and what the All Blacks will do next, as well as the Black Caps game coming up in Napier tomorrow.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
Welcome on into the Sports Fix podcast. My name's Darc
all to day that it's Tuesday. It's the eighteenth and
I've been between t twenty five. Here we are courtesy
you find the people A GJ. Gardner homes Zealand's most
trusted home builder. Sports Fix is all you need wrapped
up in a bite sized bundle when it comes to
sport key interview. Today I'll be having a chat with
(00:40):
Cameron Good. Cameron is the NZ head of tournaments and competitions.
If you're talking to him about the New Nations Championship.
The schedule was out this morning. I'll come off for
a long run to short one, a medium pace run
on exactly the same topic, and then I'll be joined
in the chamber by head of Sport for New Zealand Herald.
(01:03):
His name is Winston Aldsworth and I'm sure we're going
to pick over the bones of the disaster that was
the twicken and match between the All Blacks and England.
That's our plan, so let's hit go.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
In other news, here's yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Fix it sporty quotes for the day. Black Cats batting
coach Luke Ronke knows exactly what his remit is for
this West Indian One day International series. Nothing like clarity
and focus, a.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Making sure you can transition from T twenty to one
day credit for some of these guys, the other guys
coming in, it's going about the business they've been doing domestically.
Some guys have been putting some good scores and then
it is it's working out your styles and trusting the
work you've done behind the scenes so you know that
in a game you can put it into practice.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Seaball petball, simple and you sell on rugby's head off
tournaments and competition's camera and good expects the freshly announced
Nations Cup and it's scheduled global rugby competition. To answer
a few questions floating around, questions like you.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Will find out who the best team in the world
was in that year, and then you'll also get some
definitively side will know which hemisphere is the bet A hemisphere.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But there's always a lot of speculation about North to
the South and.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Raby triathlete Hayden Wilde got the point at either of Pineapple.
At the Dubai hosted T one hundred trath on event
over the weekend, Paul buck master transition and wrote an
extra lap and he was leading, Oh, when you're going
full gas, you know, forty five fifty k hour and
steady four.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Degrees out and you reven.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Ad one hundred and sixty heart rape all day.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
And the last thing I want to think about is
counting laps?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
What about a bell? Just saying a bit of old
school analog. Anyway, that's Sport Today.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
News and Avidion. It's Sportsfix with Dancy valde Greve.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We're joined now on the Sports Mix podcast by Cameron Good.
Cameron is New Zealand Rugby's head of tournaments and competitions.
We're going to talk to him about the new Nations Championship.
It at Cameron, you all.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Good, Oh good, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Great news for today. This Nation's Championship has been spoken
about for a while, but now it's being rubbers stamp.
Now the schedules out, everybody knows where they stand. There
is a target that must be very comforting. Two ens
are Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
This has been talked about for a while. There's been
a lot of work to get us to this point,
so it's nice. It's exciting to have it announced so
we can start really layering in that detail and sharing
this with fans and planning now directly for what will
come next year.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
A lot of work, Resistance from some unions, resistance from yourself.
Where has been the point of debate with this championship.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I think that if you look at the six six
Nations unions and the four Sane unions, that's where this
conversation started, and with the players associations involved as well.
But the principle was great. Everyone committed to that, but
there's just a lot of detail when you're working through
ten unions and different ways of doing things, and we've
(04:12):
all been hosting these games in July and November already,
so to overlayer competition format, to bring in commercial partners
that sit alongside that whole competition, there's just a lot
of complexity to work through. But yeah, we've just methodically
worked to weigh it and it's great to be at
this point where it's confirmed and we're announcing.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So resistance was not abound scheduling, if anything, it was
just the commercial issues around the sport. Essentially everybody wanted
to be involved. They could see this as the way
forward for international rugby.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Absolutely, I think we you know, the question we asked
is are we optimizing what we these test matches we
play in July and November, and there's been some epic
battles and some great series in that, but could we
do it better? Could we make better use of those
six weekends? And we think by creating this competition, by
(05:07):
allowing us and then adding that finals weekend, by the
end of next year, will know who's the best team
in the world in that year, and we'll also know
who the best hemisphere is. So adding that kind of
Ryder Cup option to it as well, where the hemispheres
go head to head, will definitively out so who's the
stronger rugby hemisphere?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Similar enough format there play three at home, you play
three away from home, telly up points, and then you
go to a championship week in. So how does that
championship weekend work because all the teams I'm presuming are
going to be involved in that fun weekend.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yes they are, so well will at the end of
those six weekends you'll have the six nations teams ranked one, three, six,
and then you'll have the Sansa Unions along with Fiji
in Japan joining which is great, ranked one to six,
and that will match up so that one v one
battle will decide who's the best team in the world.
But every one of those six games is going to
(06:06):
count to who's the best hemisphere. So across one weekend
at Twickenham at the end of November next year, you'll
have those six games of rugby occurring across three days.
It'll be exciting just to see which hemisphere prevails and
then to annoint that best team in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And I'm presuming this is not set in stone. This
format works this time around, but you're going to observe
that and put tweaks around what the success or lackby
was of this tournament. This is a work in progress.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
We're committed to do this every second year, so twenty
twenty six, twenty twenty eight and so on. So in
the years we don't play rugby World Cups and lines.
But you're right, then we'll review and continue to refine
and see how we can improve. One thing we're already
considering has been able to move that final series, so
we won't always play that in London. So a good
(07:05):
example would be is a twenty thirty one Rugby World
Cup the USA, So would it be the right thing
to take that file series to the USA in late
November twenty thirty So lots of opportunity with this format,
key to launch it and launch it well next year
and then keep building on that.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
If you're being critical, you'd suggest that Japan, Fiji and
Italy maybe not up there were the best teams in
the world, but that's part of the structure. Is there
a promotion relegation concept out there? Is the way that
any other teams can actually find themselves engaged in this
at any time because it's the big boys dinner table,
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I mean we've invited Fiji in Japan and that's looking
across their kind of on field performance and what they
can add to the competition over a long period of time.
So that was pretty clear cut that there are any
number of metrics, Japan and Fiji were the two teams
that have deserved this opportunity. What we're working with World
(08:04):
Rugby around is to have a second tier of this
for the next nations in the world, so World Rugby
will look to launch using those same July November windows.
The team's sort of thirteen through twenty four in the
world plane, and if that gets established and that concepts proven,
then certainly promotion relegation is an option in the future.
(08:26):
So we're it's not part of the design for twenty
twenty six, but speaking as g Generen Roby, we've got
a really open mind to open up that promotion relegation
opportunity in the future.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's sportsfix with Dancy Waldergrave.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
The auto as we're attempting a Grand Slam, which will
be an increasing rarity. More on that later. And they've
failed dismally at twicking em at the hands and the
feet and the minds of the English. You can say
we need to change the coaches. You can say we
need to move the captain on. You can say we
got our selection decisions wrong. You can say, well, maybe
(09:08):
the referees, you know. But the only thing you really
can say about that Test match the All Blacks were
beaten by a better team on the day. They were
more well organized, they knew their drills, they knew their strengths.
They knew their weaknesses. They knew when to attack, they
know when to defend, they know when to snap drop goals.
(09:30):
They know how to break the spirit of the opposition.
And that's what the All Blacks were. They were a
broken spirited team. Started off well and that dreaded third
quarter it all just unraveled and unraveled under the unnue
pressure of an English team who knew what they were
doing and how to do it. They applied their talent
(09:53):
and their skill and quite rightfully they won that exchange
at Twickenham. Congratulations and also on rugby. As I mentioned
before about the Grand Slam, with the new Nations Cup
that's set to get running next year, the chance actually
having a successful Grand Slam for either South Africa or
Australia or New Zealand, as rare as it was, is
(10:16):
becoming more and more like a unicorn. Every second year
the Nation's Cup is on outside of the World Cup,
outside of that the British and Irish Lions Tour, it's
going to be a very small window for any team
to be given for matches in England or Scotland or
(10:36):
Wales or Island or Chicago. Not an impossibility, but a rarity,
and that must hurt the all Blacks even more. They
had a very rare chance, an increasingly raarer chance, to
do something astonishing, and they didn't because they couldn't. Oh dear,
how sad. Never mind.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The Chamber is now in session on sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's open the chamber door now to the fourth of State. Yeah,
it's the fourth of State. That is you Winston Aldworth.
He's the sports editor for the new Land Herald. He's
got notes for Africa. Nice to see you prepared here,
my brother.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yeah, a good to be here, dars my notes.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
I've printed out for you a selection of Herald readers
comments following ticking them and mate, you want Herald readers comments,
you could wapap for your house with them.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
There's a bit of there's a bit of value living
in that house reading what they have to say.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
What's the general consensus? Because you get to see all
of these that come and you only print a few
of them. What was the upshot?
Speaker 6 (11:41):
I'll let your peek under the hood. We print most
of them.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Like you know, if you come ranting in with some
you know some stuff won't be printed, and there's some
sometimes I just won't get through because we've stopp running
comments for the day. But mostly if you're in good
faith and you've got something to say, it'll get up there.
People were people were a little let down, Dars. It's
fair to say some people saw it as a societal
problem typical of New Zealand, where we have too many
(12:04):
road cones. One coming to point it out.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
They'll reach.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
I agree on the road cane thing.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
As I said in my opinion piece, we got beaten
by a better team on the day that played better rugby.
They played with more smarts, they knew their strengths and weaknesses,
and they delivered a result at home in front of
their fans. That's not the end of the world.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Or someone made that point too. Someone said the sun
is still shiny and it was Sunday when it was
a bit offul day. Hey, yeah, I think it really
did kind of cut though. Like you know, we had
the burg loss in waining into the box earlier in
the season and that was that was tough to take.
But this one does feel like there's a tipping point
and the lens following along from not just the failures,
(12:47):
but even when they've succeeded, as they did against Scotland
and against Ireland.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
It didn't look entirely convincing. And I guess, I guess
the worrying thing like the.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Scots did they got seventeen unanswered points and only just
tore us apart is when they when they when they
get cut, they bleed out these all blacks like they
don't in the old days. They get cut and that's
suck it up. Well, in the case of buckshelf would
stitch it up and keep going right. And it just
feels now that they unravel a bit like when points
(13:15):
are conceded, it's like, oh, there's going to be some
more now, you know it's.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Your fate to complete. We're probably gonna leak a couple.
So people fight back at the end and they can't
do it.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Yeah, I mean the third quarter thing is just a
massive problem hanging over them. But yeah, like I say that,
the lens is going up the chain and people are
talking about about Razor and the coaches around him, and
it feels to me like this is kind of possibly
the brad More moment.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Brad Moore, John Plumtree.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Found themselves moved on when the Ian Foster regime was
having its troubles back in twenty two. Yeah, twenty two,
so and that was a year up from a World
Cup and big change happened. We ended up with Joe Schmidt.
Brings some great fresh perspectives into the coaching.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
So you know there's still.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well what do they want to do?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
They want to sack the guy and replace with the
who that's the problem here, Well you're going to give
Vern Cot of the job or Jamie Joseph too early?
Now do you find the McDonald Schmid's not coming back again?
Speaker 7 (14:23):
No, Look, you know I was in favor of Raiser
coming in, and I think we've got to stick to that.
But I think Raiser, as Foster did, Foster adapted, found
found a way to get new voices in there, and
I think Raiser needs to find a way to do
the same. So Raises not you know, as we know,
he's not the whistle in hand running around the training
ground telling you how to run your line out coach.
(14:44):
He's the next guy up, the vibe guy, and the overall.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Management director of rugby. Yeah, the director of rugby, I guess.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
And so so a person in that role has to
bring in the really good coaching.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Now at that next to you.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Now, I'm sure I can do it, but now's now's
really the time to do it, mate.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I mean it's his half year report.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
He had two years, you've got years ago. So now
they're going to look serious. They're not going to get
rid of and they're not going to move Scott Barrett.
That might be a fall guy, But I what do
you do if you beat Wales? It's like yeah, and.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Well mate, And the question was like no one raised
them in the comments, but you know what if the
unthinkable happened in Cardiff the unthinkables happened in Cardiff before,
back in O seven.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I tell you what the unthinkables I think paying fifteen dollars.
So maybe maybe climb on it right now, one last
thing once before he beat you out of the chamber.
Big day from his Zeland cricket tomorrow, so I'm told,
But no one seems to know what kind of big
day it is. But there's there's lots going on if
you just tap into what's going in his Zeland cricket.
Are these discussions around who's running this show, what the
(15:51):
one day competition's going to do, how the T twenty
competition is going to work out. I think Neckbor, New
Zealand a sitting there going do your worst, mate.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Yeah, hold my beer.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Yeah they'll yeah, yeah, they'll be the netball will the
place to see cricket getting the lens for a bit there.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I imagine.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
I guess that the real Calamitian cricketers who schedules games
and mape you mate, have you seen the forecast?
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Have you seen the four gut?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I mean that the work I kind of told you
that four cars last week.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Ye, I mean that.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
The one relief is, you know, we wouldn't have Mitchell anyway.
And as you'll see in my notes that I'm leaving
for you, mate, averaging fifty three and odly eyes. He's
pretty handy.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Guys, an absolute hero.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
We'll find it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
What happens that NZC tomorrow, no one seems to know.
All will be revealed and it's going to rain, So
don't see yourself for a big night in front of
the TV. Winston or Worth, sports editor for The New
Zealand Herald, off you go.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Thank you, Darsen News and Avidian. It's Sports Fix with
Darcy Valdegreve and.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
Welcome on into the Sports Fix podcast. My name's Darc
all to day that it's Tuesday. It's the eighteenth and
I've been between t twenty five. Here we are courtesy
you find the people A GJ. Gardner homes Zealand's most
trusted home builder. Sports Fix is all you need wrapped
up in a bite sized bundle when it comes to
sport key interview. Today I'll be having a chat with
(00:40):
Cameron Good. Cameron is the NZ head of tournaments and competitions.
If you're talking to him about the New Nations Championship.
The schedule was out this morning. I'll come off for
a long run to short one, a medium pace run
on exactly the same topic, and then I'll be joined
in the chamber by head of Sport for New Zealand Herald.
(01:03):
His name is Winston Aldsworth and I'm sure we're going
to pick over the bones of the disaster that was
the twicken and match between the All Blacks and England.
That's our plan, so let's hit go.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
In other news, here's yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Fix it sporty quotes for the day. Black Cats batting
coach Luke Ronke knows exactly what his remit is for
this West Indian One day International series. Nothing like clarity
and focus, a.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Making sure you can transition from T twenty to one
day credit for some of these guys, the other guys
coming in, it's going about the business they've been doing domestically.
Some guys have been putting some good scores and then
it is it's working out your styles and trusting the
work you've done behind the scenes so you know that
in a game you can put it into practice.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Seaball petball, simple and you sell on rugby's head off
tournaments and competition's camera and good expects the freshly announced
Nations Cup and it's scheduled global rugby competition. To answer
a few questions floating around, questions like you.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Will find out who the best team in the world
was in that year, and then you'll also get some
definitively side will know which hemisphere is the bet A hemisphere.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But there's always a lot of speculation about North to
the South and.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Raby triathlete Hayden Wilde got the point at either of Pineapple.
At the Dubai hosted T one hundred trath on event
over the weekend, Paul buck master transition and wrote an
extra lap and he was leading, Oh, when you're going
full gas, you know, forty five fifty k hour and
steady four.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Degrees out and you reven.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Ad one hundred and sixty heart rape all day.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
And the last thing I want to think about is
counting laps?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
What about a bell? Just saying a bit of old
school analog. Anyway, that's Sport Today.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
News and Avidion. It's Sportsfix with Dancy valde Greve.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We're joined now on the Sports Mix podcast by Cameron Good.
Cameron is New Zealand Rugby's head of tournaments and competitions.
We're going to talk to him about the new Nations Championship.
It at Cameron, you all.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Good, Oh good, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Great news for today. This Nation's Championship has been spoken
about for a while, but now it's being rubbers stamp.
Now the schedules out, everybody knows where they stand. There
is a target that must be very comforting. Two ens
are Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
This has been talked about for a while. There's been
a lot of work to get us to this point,
so it's nice. It's exciting to have it announced so
we can start really layering in that detail and sharing
this with fans and planning now directly for what will
come next year.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
A lot of work, Resistance from some unions, resistance from yourself.
Where has been the point of debate with this championship.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I think that if you look at the six six
Nations unions and the four Sane unions, that's where this
conversation started, and with the players associations involved as well.
But the principle was great. Everyone committed to that, but
there's just a lot of detail when you're working through
ten unions and different ways of doing things, and we've
(04:12):
all been hosting these games in July and November already,
so to overlayer competition format, to bring in commercial partners
that sit alongside that whole competition, there's just a lot
of complexity to work through. But yeah, we've just methodically
worked to weigh it and it's great to be at
this point where it's confirmed and we're announcing.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So resistance was not abound scheduling, if anything, it was
just the commercial issues around the sport. Essentially everybody wanted
to be involved. They could see this as the way
forward for international rugby.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Absolutely, I think we you know, the question we asked
is are we optimizing what we these test matches we
play in July and November, and there's been some epic
battles and some great series in that, but could we
do it better? Could we make better use of those
six weekends? And we think by creating this competition, by
(05:07):
allowing us and then adding that finals weekend, by the
end of next year, will know who's the best team
in the world in that year, and we'll also know
who the best hemisphere is. So adding that kind of
Ryder Cup option to it as well, where the hemispheres
go head to head, will definitively out so who's the
stronger rugby hemisphere?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Similar enough format there play three at home, you play
three away from home, telly up points, and then you
go to a championship week in. So how does that
championship weekend work because all the teams I'm presuming are
going to be involved in that fun weekend.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yes they are, so well will at the end of
those six weekends you'll have the six nations teams ranked one, three, six,
and then you'll have the Sansa Unions along with Fiji
in Japan joining which is great, ranked one to six,
and that will match up so that one v one
battle will decide who's the best team in the world.
But every one of those six games is going to
(06:06):
count to who's the best hemisphere. So across one weekend
at Twickenham at the end of November next year, you'll
have those six games of rugby occurring across three days.
It'll be exciting just to see which hemisphere prevails and
then to annoint that best team in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And I'm presuming this is not set in stone. This
format works this time around, but you're going to observe
that and put tweaks around what the success or lackby
was of this tournament. This is a work in progress.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
We're committed to do this every second year, so twenty
twenty six, twenty twenty eight and so on. So in
the years we don't play rugby World Cups and lines.
But you're right, then we'll review and continue to refine
and see how we can improve. One thing we're already
considering has been able to move that final series, so
we won't always play that in London. So a good
(07:05):
example would be is a twenty thirty one Rugby World
Cup the USA, So would it be the right thing
to take that file series to the USA in late
November twenty thirty So lots of opportunity with this format,
key to launch it and launch it well next year
and then keep building on that.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
If you're being critical, you'd suggest that Japan, Fiji and
Italy maybe not up there were the best teams in
the world, but that's part of the structure. Is there
a promotion relegation concept out there? Is the way that
any other teams can actually find themselves engaged in this
at any time because it's the big boys dinner table,
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I mean we've invited Fiji in Japan and that's looking
across their kind of on field performance and what they
can add to the competition over a long period of time.
So that was pretty clear cut that there are any
number of metrics, Japan and Fiji were the two teams
that have deserved this opportunity. What we're working with World
(08:04):
Rugby around is to have a second tier of this
for the next nations in the world, so World Rugby
will look to launch using those same July November windows.
The team's sort of thirteen through twenty four in the
world plane, and if that gets established and that concepts proven,
then certainly promotion relegation is an option in the future.
(08:26):
So we're it's not part of the design for twenty
twenty six, but speaking as g Generen Roby, we've got
a really open mind to open up that promotion relegation
opportunity in the future.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's sportsfix with Dancy Waldergrave.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
The auto as we're attempting a Grand Slam, which will
be an increasing rarity. More on that later. And they've
failed dismally at twicking em at the hands and the
feet and the minds of the English. You can say
we need to change the coaches. You can say we
need to move the captain on. You can say we
got our selection decisions wrong. You can say, well, maybe
(09:08):
the referees, you know. But the only thing you really
can say about that Test match the All Blacks were
beaten by a better team on the day. They were
more well organized, they knew their drills, they knew their strengths.
They knew their weaknesses. They knew when to attack, they
know when to defend, they know when to snap drop goals.
(09:30):
They know how to break the spirit of the opposition.
And that's what the All Blacks were. They were a
broken spirited team. Started off well and that dreaded third
quarter it all just unraveled and unraveled under the unnue
pressure of an English team who knew what they were
doing and how to do it. They applied their talent
(09:53):
and their skill and quite rightfully they won that exchange
at Twickenham. Congratulations and also on rugby. As I mentioned
before about the Grand Slam, with the new Nations Cup
that's set to get running next year, the chance actually
having a successful Grand Slam for either South Africa or
Australia or New Zealand, as rare as it was, is
(10:16):
becoming more and more like a unicorn. Every second year
the Nation's Cup is on outside of the World Cup,
outside of that the British and Irish Lions Tour, it's
going to be a very small window for any team
to be given for matches in England or Scotland or
(10:36):
Wales or Island or Chicago. Not an impossibility, but a rarity,
and that must hurt the all Blacks even more. They
had a very rare chance, an increasingly raarer chance, to
do something astonishing, and they didn't because they couldn't. Oh dear,
how sad. Never mind.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The Chamber is now in session on sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's open the chamber door now to the fourth of State. Yeah,
it's the fourth of State. That is you Winston Aldworth.
He's the sports editor for the new Land Herald. He's
got notes for Africa. Nice to see you prepared here,
my brother.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yeah, a good to be here, dars my notes.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
I've printed out for you a selection of Herald readers
comments following ticking them and mate, you want Herald readers comments,
you could wapap for your house with them.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
There's a bit of there's a bit of value living
in that house reading what they have to say.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
What's the general consensus? Because you get to see all
of these that come and you only print a few
of them. What was the upshot?
Speaker 6 (11:41):
I'll let your peek under the hood. We print most
of them.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Like you know, if you come ranting in with some
you know some stuff won't be printed, and there's some
sometimes I just won't get through because we've stopp running
comments for the day. But mostly if you're in good
faith and you've got something to say, it'll get up there.
People were people were a little let down, Dars. It's
fair to say some people saw it as a societal
problem typical of New Zealand, where we have too many
(12:04):
road cones. One coming to point it out.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
They'll reach.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
I agree on the road cane thing.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
As I said in my opinion piece, we got beaten
by a better team on the day that played better rugby.
They played with more smarts, they knew their strengths and weaknesses,
and they delivered a result at home in front of
their fans. That's not the end of the world.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Or someone made that point too. Someone said the sun
is still shiny and it was Sunday when it was
a bit offul day. Hey, yeah, I think it really
did kind of cut though. Like you know, we had
the burg loss in waining into the box earlier in
the season and that was that was tough to take.
But this one does feel like there's a tipping point
and the lens following along from not just the failures,
(12:47):
but even when they've succeeded, as they did against Scotland
and against Ireland.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
It didn't look entirely convincing. And I guess, I guess
the worrying thing like the.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Scots did they got seventeen unanswered points and only just
tore us apart is when they when they when they
get cut, they bleed out these all blacks like they
don't in the old days. They get cut and that's
suck it up. Well, in the case of buckshelf would
stitch it up and keep going right. And it just
feels now that they unravel a bit like when points
(13:15):
are conceded, it's like, oh, there's going to be some
more now, you know it's.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Your fate to complete. We're probably gonna leak a couple.
So people fight back at the end and they can't
do it.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Yeah, I mean the third quarter thing is just a
massive problem hanging over them. But yeah, like I say that,
the lens is going up the chain and people are
talking about about Razor and the coaches around him, and
it feels to me like this is kind of possibly
the brad More moment.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Brad Moore, John Plumtree.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Found themselves moved on when the Ian Foster regime was
having its troubles back in twenty two. Yeah, twenty two,
so and that was a year up from a World
Cup and big change happened. We ended up with Joe Schmidt.
Brings some great fresh perspectives into the coaching.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
So you know there's still.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well what do they want to do?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
They want to sack the guy and replace with the
who that's the problem here, Well you're going to give
Vern Cot of the job or Jamie Joseph too early?
Now do you find the McDonald Schmid's not coming back again?
Speaker 7 (14:23):
No, Look, you know I was in favor of Raiser
coming in, and I think we've got to stick to that.
But I think Raiser, as Foster did, Foster adapted, found
found a way to get new voices in there, and
I think Raiser needs to find a way to do
the same. So Raises not you know, as we know,
he's not the whistle in hand running around the training
ground telling you how to run your line out coach.
(14:44):
He's the next guy up, the vibe guy, and the overall.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Management director of rugby. Yeah, the director of rugby, I guess.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
And so so a person in that role has to
bring in the really good coaching.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Now at that next to you.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Now, I'm sure I can do it, but now's now's
really the time to do it, mate.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I mean it's his half year report.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
He had two years, you've got years ago. So now
they're going to look serious. They're not going to get
rid of and they're not going to move Scott Barrett.
That might be a fall guy, But I what do
you do if you beat Wales? It's like yeah, and.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Well mate, And the question was like no one raised
them in the comments, but you know what if the
unthinkable happened in Cardiff the unthinkables happened in Cardiff before,
back in O seven.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I tell you what the unthinkables I think paying fifteen dollars.
So maybe maybe climb on it right now, one last
thing once before he beat you out of the chamber.
Big day from his Zeland cricket tomorrow, so I'm told,
But no one seems to know what kind of big
day it is. But there's there's lots going on if
you just tap into what's going in his Zeland cricket.
Are these discussions around who's running this show, what the
(15:51):
one day competition's going to do, how the T twenty
competition is going to work out. I think Neckbor, New
Zealand a sitting there going do your worst, mate.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Yeah, hold my beer.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Yeah they'll yeah, yeah, they'll be the netball will the
place to see cricket getting the lens for a bit there.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I imagine.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
I guess that the real Calamitian cricketers who schedules games
and mape you mate, have you seen the forecast?
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Have you seen the four gut?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I mean that the work I kind of told you
that four cars last week.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Ye, I mean that.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
The one relief is, you know, we wouldn't have Mitchell anyway.
And as you'll see in my notes that I'm leaving
for you, mate, averaging fifty three and odly eyes. He's
pretty handy.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Guys, an absolute hero.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
We'll find it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
What happens that NZC tomorrow, no one seems to know.
All will be revealed and it's going to rain, So
don't see yourself for a big night in front of
the TV. Winston or Worth, sports editor for The New
Zealand Herald, off you go.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Thank you, Darsen News and Avidian. It's Sports Fix with
Darcy Valdegreve and.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
That winds it up for another edition of the Sports Fixed.
It's Tuesday. It's the eighteenth of November twenty twenty five.
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