November 19, 2025 • 20 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for 19th November 2025, former Black Cap Jesse Ryder is the latest cricketing star to sign with Team Cricket for the upcoming 2026 Black Clash in Tauranga. He caught up with D'Arcy to discuss.
D'Arcy shares his thoughts on the Breakers refusing to wear a pride sticker in the upcoming NBL pride round.
And D'Arcy and NZ Herald sports journalist Alex Powell discuss Jesse Ryder playing in the Black Clash and Nelson Asofa-Solomona.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello there, well, welcome on in to the Sports Fix podcast.
My name is Darcy Walter Grave. It is a Wednesday.
It's the nineteenth of November twenty twenty five and an
association with GJ Gardener Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder,
we're bringing you a little bite size chunk of all
our sports news you need to know today. Featuring on
(00:42):
the program is GC Rider. The big main is returning
to the game of cricket in the Black class will
discuss that shortly. I've got some ideas, some thoughts around
the Breaker's interesting decision to acquest to some of their
team members and have nothing to do with the Pride Round.
And we'll be joined in the chamber by Alex Powell.
(01:04):
Alex is a New Zealand Herald sports journalist, and we'll
discuss the other big sports stories of the day. That's
our master plans, so let's do it. In other news,
it's of a little eaves drop now in the mutt
rings of sport. Today, Jesse Ryder is back in New
Zealand up playing cricket. He signed Island to play in
(01:25):
the Black Platt, the annual early summer and very popular
rugby versus cricketing display. One of the most gifted ball
strikers in New Zealand cricket is looking forward to the
mirthful moments, maybe more than the actual playing the game itself.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Hopefully she's show he's on the sideline for me while
I'm on the boundary during the game. But this should
be pretty exciting. Hopefully there'll be a bit of banter
and stuff, but it should be good times.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Sadly, subtitles are not possible for this clip, so listen carefully.
Scottish football skipper Andy Robertson is off to the World Cup.
The Scott's beat Denmark this morning four to two, two
of those goals coming in spotted time to cement their
spot in the States next year. It was his last
chance to play in FIFA's global tournament, something he had
(02:16):
discussed of Diego Jotta as former Liverpool teammate. It was
killed in a car craft earlier this year. We spot
so much together the Worcal car.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
When we must know and guitar must the skyland never
been and we almost discussed why don't.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Be late going to that world car, But I know
it'll be somewhere spiling all meat today and all back
going our Caleb Clark is looking toward twenty twenty six
after a testing year. Injury, limited playing time and a
court appearance are all good reasons to run hard at
December thirty first and run there in ari. Everything that's
(02:55):
happened off the fielders but contributed to that.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And so I've said it for the coaching stuff, I've
been so grateful that the second half of the year
they've really bought that that enjoyment for me and the
joy of thing rugby. Yeah, I definitely felt like that
second half hasn't been in.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
The Jesse, Andy and Caleb, thanks for your time.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It's Sportsfix with.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And joining us now on sports Fix a podcast. It's
Jesse Rider. Jesse back playing cricket. This time he's playing
in the black class. He joins us. Now, Jesse, where
have you.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Been just hiding under a rock?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Mate?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Just chilling?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So how do they encourage you to get out from
under the rock to start playing cricket? A game what's
the story?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Just got I came to be a part of the
Black class and you know, it seems like an awesome,
awesome day. So I'm looking forward to being a part
of it next year.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So what have you been doing cricket wise? I know
you played in a few leagues around the world, but
like where, how well, what's your form? Like? What have
you been doing in the cricket area?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeahs, heaps of retired players com said have been popping
up over the last year. So I've just been back
and forth from India mainly over the last two years.
This year has been a bit of a bit of
a nightmare with payment issues. Yeah, we gole players have
been going away and not been paid. So hopefully the
(04:24):
next few comps coming up they actually pay us.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Who's not paying you come on out them now.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's pretty much just the organizers of the tournaments. So
it's the last tournament I went to that they all
blow up over in the media over in India, So
hopefully it sort of helps with the next comps to
make sure they pay the players.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Okay, form wise, how are you heading the ball?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Last game? I've at one hundred and thirty or fifty balls,
but it was a few months back now, so still
will probably be rusty years come to the blacklash, it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
May be, but now's the time you tell us all
you're going to spend a lot of time in the nets.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Right, Oh, yeah, I'll be spending plenty of time in
the nets, but that'll be more me coaching there and
me betting international cricket.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You haven't been seeing at that level for some time.
Kind of ask do you miss it a little bit?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But not really. Yeah, I went through quite a bit
through my career and stuff like that, and you know,
I took the enjoyment sector away for me, so like,
I sort of do this at times, but I knew,
I knew that I had a lot more to offer.
But yeah, it's what it is, and I'm just doing
(05:37):
what I'm doing now.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So what else are you doing? Any other sport? The golf?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, golf. I got into golf big time last year,
so I've been I've been playing a lot of golf,
not as late because as I've been away, but yeah,
that's been one of my main main distractions lately.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Be kind of cool to get back into a ship
with some of your former teammates.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
The Tory.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Like the list goes on, he's still got a good
relationship with these guys.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, it'll be good to see them. I haven't seen
them for ages, so nah, it's going to be cool
to trouble with everyone. And like I feel, it looks
like a pretty awesome day at bay Oval, So that'll
be exciting getting back out there and playing in front
of the New Zealand crowd.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Mercurial, maverick and mysterious, that's what the press release describes
you as. Also a swashback You a swashbuckler, Jesse?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
About that? Just keeps it simple. S the ball hit the.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Ball, So nothing new there. You just stick to what
you're good at.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, yeah, why change something that works?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
What about with the ball, Jesse? Do you roll your
arm over every now and then?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh nah, I haven't bowld seem up for a few
years since six days. I think more just bowl some
nude offs than the nude.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So you just whub the ball down there and then.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You I just love it down there and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
What are you expecting from the crowd. What kind of
response do you think you'll get when you get out
there into the middle.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, hopefully there's a few showies on the sideline for me, Well,
I'm on the boundary during the game. But it should
be pretty exciting. Hopefully there'll be a bit of banter
and stuff, but it should be good times.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You played in the States as well, didn't you, Jesse?
How was that? Do they understand it? Do they know
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, I've played one tournament over there. I'm meant to
be going there on the fifth of December for another tournament,
but yeah, still went to hear what's happening with that.
It's been postponed twice. But when I was there last
there wasn't really much of a crowd at all. There's
probably about ten or fifteen people. Yeah, I don't think
they followed too much of these tournaments where you plan
(07:51):
their applied tournaments, but you're locally. It's building pretty well
over there cricket wise.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
What does the future look like, Jesse? You've got a
master plan? Where are you headed now?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I'm just cruising at the moment. I'm just started my
coaching business. I'm trying to build that now that I'm
home for a little bit so I can push it
a bit more. And yeah, I'm just pretty much winning
it at the moment with these tournaments, it's hard to
sort of try and find a job when I'm back
and forth so much. Does another thing just trying to
find a solid job so I don't have to go
(08:24):
away as much now. I want to spend a bit
more time at home and trying to build this coaching
coaching gigap.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Dissecting the sporting agenda It's Sportsfix with Dancy Walter Grave.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
The Breakers have become paraized. They've refused to buy into
the Pride Week. This is a concept within the NBL,
it's been going for a few years now, where they
celebrate diversity, inclusivity, so on and so forth in the
Pride community. Break has been doing it for the last
(08:59):
couple of years. No problem this time around, though, And
I wonder if this has got anything to do with
the fact they've got a new ownership group. Now they've decided,
or the players have decided. So we've told that they're
not going to wear the Pride insignia the badge on
their jersey for Pride Week because culturally and religiously some
(09:23):
of the players do not agree with that concept. So
as a team, as a unit, as one they put
it to the vote and decided they'll all wear the
insignia or they won't wear it at all, and they're
not wearing it at all. In a nutshell, this has
done nothing to support anybody. It has been a disaster.
(09:44):
The NRL tried it on. It failed. The manly experience
blew up on their face when a number of their
players are so tight with their religion their culture that
they couldn't understand to accept a community that doesn't agree
with them. It's not a bad thing, it's not like
they have to behave like that. But hey, it was
(10:04):
too much for them, so they said no. Suddenly Pride
week as diss appeared from the NRL. In essence, sports
leagues have got to be very careful who they support
and how they put that support out there. You're not
going to please all of the people all the time,
or even some of the people some of the time.
(10:25):
I hate saying it, but stick to your knitting, because
I don't think this particular controversy has done anybody any
favors at all.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Alex Powell Joints is now and the Chamber sports journalists
from the New Zealand Herald. Do you think that someone
locks the chamber door from the outside when you come in?
I mean, do you think you're ever going to get
out of here? Alex?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I think they should lock it with us to it.
They got a lot of problems around this office.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's a very good point, so watching for the boss
and his keys welcome in. Though sporting stories of the
day suppose the Jesse Rider Yahn's pretty big is the
You can't say the prodigal Sun returned. I didn't see
this one coming. I don't think anybody did. Well, I
suppose it is. I think the fans will love it,
wasn't they absolutely?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You think of what the Black Clash is and it's
about nostalgia. It's about remembering these guys at their best.
And for me, I don't think there's a more talented
player that's ever played for New Zealand than Jesse Rder.
I know, for a bunch of reasons, we never got
to see the best of them, but for this one off,
you know, let's actually see Jesse Ryder the way that
(11:34):
we should have seen him, and that was in an
environment which is, you know, fun and open and welcoming.
You know, because let's not be like the black Caps
have had a lot of success over the past decade,
but it wasn't always the way it is now.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh no, or you've been along suffering New Zealand cricket
fans been like that. When you look back at Jesse Ryder,
first thing that jumps into your mind is what is
it firstly as cricket or is that? A second thing
is it is the alcohol issues that dramas have got
himself into. What do you look at Jesse Ryder as.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And think you can't really think of one without the other,
can you? Because when I think of Jesse, I think,
oh could have been you know, we were talking out
in the office earlier and about you know, this New
Zealand team. You know, you could have had a batting
lineup of Williamson, Taylor, McCullum, Ryder. You know you would
never lose a game.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
It's incredible. But I think that is ultimately a Jesse
Rider story and he like full credit to him for
actually being open about this and acknowledging how it did
go wrong, you know, and that's very brave and for
someone like Jesse who's at the problems he had but
he let's not also forget he was. You know, they
did turn it back and there was a period of
time where he went sober for two years. He went
(12:43):
over and played in England and Cantergory for Essex and
did great turn into an all rounder was everything.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It was seen as a problem, wasn't he He was
easier to just not include him than to include him,
because yeah, we're going to get a great cricketer, but
what's it going to come with?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And that's ultimately I think very sad. We can't coming
back to that word sad, don't we that so many
people tried to help Jesse and they couldn't, you know.
But now I mean time sort of heels all words
that and now I think Jesse looks back at his
time and realizes that he could have done things like
he spoke to him. I spoke to him for the
Herald and I asked him, what would you tell you
form your younger self, And he said, I just would
(13:18):
have calmed down a bit and maybe stopped going out
as much.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Because that was interesting because we we talking about this
before as well, from the ages of like you know,
sixteen seventeen to about thirty Mayles a idiot. They do
dumb things. It's just the ride of passage. Unfortunately, sometimes
it collides with great sporting talent and you're going to
have a big off. And that's what he had. He
had a skit, all the talent, but too much fun
(13:41):
on one side.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I think everyone in sport in this country has a
story about someone they've played with growing up who could
have been, you know, the best player, but just couldn't
get it all together. And for a lot of people,
that's Jesse Ryder. The unfortunate thing was that he did
it at the highest level.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, you got Zach Gilford as well. That's not unusual.
And I think when you also pile on the media
and the fame, it's very hard to understand how you'd
react to that. It's a very strange space, and some
people it excids them, and obviously it's skinded them as well.
I mean, everyone knows who you are, what you do.
I expect to be quite overpowering, and drinks probably quite
(14:17):
a nice way to hide from that.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
There's an American basketball coach I can't remember his name,
but he has a quote about that of being an
athlete at that level, you don't earn so much money
for what you do. You earn that much money because
your life isn't yours anymore, and some people really don't
get to terms with that.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It would be extraordinarily difficult. And that's why you see
famous people on all walks of life coupling up, because
you found someone who actually understands the pressures you're going under,
and no one cares. But when I look back at
Jesse Ryder and I'm looking forward to watching him throw
a bat around because seeing him wander around with a
back like toothpick and just flailing everybody. Two standout memories
(14:58):
Queenstown and Napier Will one test one one Dan International.
I just sit there on the watching those going Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Think a lot of people forget Queens down, don't they?
Because Corey Anderson went off at the other end. But Jesse,
that was the sixth fastest century of all time. It's
now the ninth because of the way credit's gone. The
honest day, Jesse Ryder was as good as he.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Tests that game against India, and you've got Ross Taylor
and Jesse Ryder and their central kids just have an
absolute field day. And that was playing with freedom, everything
had been unlocked. Just go for it, play express yourself.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I remember, I think it was Martin Crowe in commentary
at the time, said that this this was going to
be it. This is going to be the guy who
gets three hundred and he gets two hundred and drags
on next ball.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I think, well, Martin Crow was one that came out before,
just before that, and said, look, I'm not really quite
sure if the Pussifica or Marty you quite have the
required concentration. It's quite racist to do well in cricket,
and that's what hasn't happened. And then you queue the
Salmon and the Marty and they wander out and have
a massive partnership against India. So like, wow, Martin Crow
(16:06):
memorial partnership, you call it that. Look, I knew Martin
got on on them really well, he'll laugh at that.
So I'm not speaking ill of the dead, but I
did find that irony quite delightful. On is there a
chance that Nelson Solomona, the walking Penalty is going to
end up playing for the Warriors. It's it's been floated,
Is it likely? I mean, Mike Burgess has been all
(16:28):
over here from the Herald.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Well, it sounds like no. So from what Birge, my
brilliant colleague, has dived into, it sounds like there was
talks and there was an offer on the table. But
can the Warriors actually get Nelson a sophomore and under
the salary cap? Sound that? I can't remember? He took
a huge payout from the Storm to get over the
last few years of his deal. Could they have gotten
(16:49):
him for cheap on that? You know, the same way
that Matt Lodge left the Warriors and were still paid
by the club for a year.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's a name I really didn't want to hear a game,
but thank you.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, but it sounds like no. There might be bigger
players in the market. Pam Ottaiels do have a lot
of money to play with now that they've just lost
a Lomax coach. Jason Ryles came from Melbourne store where
he would have had an existing relationship with Nelson, So
if that's where he goes, then that might just be a.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Melbourne for how long? Now out of Wellington? Could you
even get it back here in the first place? Would
he want to? Melton's a great city.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I think it's more than half his life. He's been
at the Storm, which is huge, you know, but they
understand that. It's like we're talking about Jesse Ryder. You
need there are some guys who just need more support,
and Nelson might be one of those guys. You know,
there's no question about his ability on the field. You know,
I wouldn't want to be against them because he's twice
the size of me.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I wouldn't want him in the team because he is
a walking card. And that's what worries man and it's
a it's a constant has been. I mean, he's a
huge human being and sometimes he get himselves into positions
you simply can't get out of because he's so high
and so wide and so big, and he's got that
inherent aggression which he needs a prop and lee. But
he tends too much to be disciplined. And we know
(18:02):
what the NRL do to the worries. He need find
another prop, find a new one.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Well, I don't even That's the other thing. I don't
really think they need them in that squad. I think
you look at the Fords they've got, you know, Mitch Barnett,
Dams Fisher, Harris merth In, the Arquarterer. You've got all
the young kids. You got Demitric Rommonger, you've got Aaron Clark,
They're now Lackahla Sema Jacob Evan like, these are some
bloody good players and it's a good core that you
can build.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And they're not wildly expensive and they can be molded.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh they will be expensive.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Eventually, eventually, Aaron Clark. I mean, how they got home.
I've got no idea, but I worked a treat, didn't it.
And it's about you mentioned Vomonga and this guy is
a potential Warriors captain in the future. I'd hate to
think how many other guys like that are floating around
in the Fox memorial. There'd be a pile of them.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Well, that's that's the issue the Warriors always had, is
that they there is just as a room for all
the talent they've got. You know, how often do we
see someone playing for you know, the Roosters or the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
They can't everybody.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
The Warriors had them, you know who was it. Luke
Matcuff said this earlier this year that he didn't like
seeing that when you're playing it Sky and you know
that they were an explorance all now playing against them.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. I don't think it
will and I think it's a positive that they look
at the talent and not paying overs for a talent
that what is he? Twenty nine? Yeah, threto years old.
They've still got a few games left in them. But
a bit of a folk hero, bit of a liability
and on that, let's unlock the door. Alex Powell out
of a chamber. You go, Thanks.
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Hello there, well, welcome on in to the Sports Fix podcast.
My name is Darcy Walter Grave. It is a Wednesday.
It's the nineteenth of November twenty twenty five and an
association with GJ Gardener Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder,
we're bringing you a little bite size chunk of all
our sports news you need to know today. Featuring on
(00:42):
the program is GC Rider. The big main is returning
to the game of cricket in the Black class will
discuss that shortly. I've got some ideas, some thoughts around
the Breaker's interesting decision to acquest to some of their
team members and have nothing to do with the Pride Round.
And we'll be joined in the chamber by Alex Powell.
(01:04):
Alex is a New Zealand Herald sports journalist, and we'll
discuss the other big sports stories of the day. That's
our master plans, so let's do it. In other news,
it's of a little eaves drop now in the mutt
rings of sport. Today, Jesse Ryder is back in New
Zealand up playing cricket. He signed Island to play in
(01:25):
the Black Platt, the annual early summer and very popular
rugby versus cricketing display. One of the most gifted ball
strikers in New Zealand cricket is looking forward to the
mirthful moments, maybe more than the actual playing the game itself.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Hopefully she's show he's on the sideline for me while
I'm on the boundary during the game. But this should
be pretty exciting. Hopefully there'll be a bit of banter
and stuff, but it should be good times.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Sadly, subtitles are not possible for this clip, so listen carefully.
Scottish football skipper Andy Robertson is off to the World Cup.
The Scott's beat Denmark this morning four to two, two
of those goals coming in spotted time to cement their
spot in the States next year. It was his last
chance to play in FIFA's global tournament, something he had
(02:16):
discussed of Diego Jotta as former Liverpool teammate. It was
killed in a car craft earlier this year. We spot
so much together the Worcal car.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
When we must know and guitar must the skyland never
been and we almost discussed why don't.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Be late going to that world car, But I know
it'll be somewhere spiling all meat today and all back
going our Caleb Clark is looking toward twenty twenty six
after a testing year. Injury, limited playing time and a
court appearance are all good reasons to run hard at
December thirty first and run there in ari. Everything that's
(02:55):
happened off the fielders but contributed to that.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And so I've said it for the coaching stuff, I've
been so grateful that the second half of the year
they've really bought that that enjoyment for me and the
joy of thing rugby. Yeah, I definitely felt like that
second half hasn't been in.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
The Jesse, Andy and Caleb, thanks for your time.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It's Sportsfix with.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And joining us now on sports Fix a podcast. It's
Jesse Rider. Jesse back playing cricket. This time he's playing
in the black class. He joins us. Now, Jesse, where
have you.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Been just hiding under a rock?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Mate?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Just chilling?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So how do they encourage you to get out from
under the rock to start playing cricket? A game what's
the story?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Just got I came to be a part of the
Black class and you know, it seems like an awesome,
awesome day. So I'm looking forward to being a part
of it next year.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So what have you been doing cricket wise? I know
you played in a few leagues around the world, but
like where, how well, what's your form? Like? What have
you been doing in the cricket area?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeahs, heaps of retired players com said have been popping
up over the last year. So I've just been back
and forth from India mainly over the last two years.
This year has been a bit of a bit of
a nightmare with payment issues. Yeah, we gole players have
been going away and not been paid. So hopefully the
(04:24):
next few comps coming up they actually pay us.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Who's not paying you come on out them now.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's pretty much just the organizers of the tournaments. So
it's the last tournament I went to that they all
blow up over in the media over in India, So
hopefully it sort of helps with the next comps to
make sure they pay the players.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Okay, form wise, how are you heading the ball?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Last game? I've at one hundred and thirty or fifty balls,
but it was a few months back now, so still
will probably be rusty years come to the blacklash, it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
May be, but now's the time you tell us all
you're going to spend a lot of time in the nets.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Right, Oh, yeah, I'll be spending plenty of time in
the nets, but that'll be more me coaching there and
me betting international cricket.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You haven't been seeing at that level for some time.
Kind of ask do you miss it a little bit?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But not really. Yeah, I went through quite a bit
through my career and stuff like that, and you know,
I took the enjoyment sector away for me, so like,
I sort of do this at times, but I knew,
I knew that I had a lot more to offer.
But yeah, it's what it is, and I'm just doing
(05:37):
what I'm doing now.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So what else are you doing? Any other sport? The golf?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, golf. I got into golf big time last year,
so I've been I've been playing a lot of golf,
not as late because as I've been away, but yeah,
that's been one of my main main distractions lately.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Be kind of cool to get back into a ship
with some of your former teammates.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
The Tory.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Like the list goes on, he's still got a good
relationship with these guys.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, it'll be good to see them. I haven't seen
them for ages, so nah, it's going to be cool
to trouble with everyone. And like I feel, it looks
like a pretty awesome day at bay Oval, So that'll
be exciting getting back out there and playing in front
of the New Zealand crowd.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Mercurial, maverick and mysterious, that's what the press release describes
you as. Also a swashback You a swashbuckler, Jesse?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
About that? Just keeps it simple. S the ball hit the.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Ball, So nothing new there. You just stick to what
you're good at.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, yeah, why change something that works?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
What about with the ball, Jesse? Do you roll your
arm over every now and then?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh nah, I haven't bowld seem up for a few
years since six days. I think more just bowl some
nude offs than the nude.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So you just whub the ball down there and then.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You I just love it down there and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
What are you expecting from the crowd. What kind of
response do you think you'll get when you get out
there into the middle.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, hopefully there's a few showies on the sideline for me, Well,
I'm on the boundary during the game. But it should
be pretty exciting. Hopefully there'll be a bit of banter
and stuff, but it should be good times.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You played in the States as well, didn't you, Jesse?
How was that? Do they understand it? Do they know
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, I've played one tournament over there. I'm meant to
be going there on the fifth of December for another tournament,
but yeah, still went to hear what's happening with that.
It's been postponed twice. But when I was there last
there wasn't really much of a crowd at all. There's
probably about ten or fifteen people. Yeah, I don't think
they followed too much of these tournaments where you plan
(07:51):
their applied tournaments, but you're locally. It's building pretty well
over there cricket wise.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
What does the future look like, Jesse? You've got a
master plan? Where are you headed now?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I'm just cruising at the moment. I'm just started my
coaching business. I'm trying to build that now that I'm
home for a little bit so I can push it
a bit more. And yeah, I'm just pretty much winning
it at the moment with these tournaments, it's hard to
sort of try and find a job when I'm back
and forth so much. Does another thing just trying to
find a solid job so I don't have to go
(08:24):
away as much now. I want to spend a bit
more time at home and trying to build this coaching
coaching gigap.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Dissecting the sporting agenda It's Sportsfix with Dancy Walter Grave.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
The Breakers have become paraized. They've refused to buy into
the Pride Week. This is a concept within the NBL,
it's been going for a few years now, where they
celebrate diversity, inclusivity, so on and so forth in the
Pride community. Break has been doing it for the last
(08:59):
couple of years. No problem this time around, though, And
I wonder if this has got anything to do with
the fact they've got a new ownership group. Now they've decided,
or the players have decided. So we've told that they're
not going to wear the Pride insignia the badge on
their jersey for Pride Week because culturally and religiously some
(09:23):
of the players do not agree with that concept. So
as a team, as a unit, as one they put
it to the vote and decided they'll all wear the
insignia or they won't wear it at all, and they're
not wearing it at all. In a nutshell, this has
done nothing to support anybody. It has been a disaster.
(09:44):
The NRL tried it on. It failed. The manly experience
blew up on their face when a number of their
players are so tight with their religion their culture that
they couldn't understand to accept a community that doesn't agree
with them. It's not a bad thing, it's not like
they have to behave like that. But hey, it was
(10:04):
too much for them, so they said no. Suddenly Pride
week as diss appeared from the NRL. In essence, sports
leagues have got to be very careful who they support
and how they put that support out there. You're not
going to please all of the people all the time,
or even some of the people some of the time.
(10:25):
I hate saying it, but stick to your knitting, because
I don't think this particular controversy has done anybody any
favors at all.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Alex Powell Joints is now and the Chamber sports journalists
from the New Zealand Herald. Do you think that someone
locks the chamber door from the outside when you come in?
I mean, do you think you're ever going to get
out of here? Alex?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I think they should lock it with us to it.
They got a lot of problems around this office.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's a very good point, so watching for the boss
and his keys welcome in. Though sporting stories of the
day suppose the Jesse Rider Yahn's pretty big is the
You can't say the prodigal Sun returned. I didn't see
this one coming. I don't think anybody did. Well, I
suppose it is. I think the fans will love it,
wasn't they absolutely?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You think of what the Black Clash is and it's
about nostalgia. It's about remembering these guys at their best.
And for me, I don't think there's a more talented
player that's ever played for New Zealand than Jesse Rder.
I know, for a bunch of reasons, we never got
to see the best of them, but for this one off,
you know, let's actually see Jesse Ryder the way that
(11:34):
we should have seen him, and that was in an
environment which is, you know, fun and open and welcoming.
You know, because let's not be like the black Caps
have had a lot of success over the past decade,
but it wasn't always the way it is now.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh no, or you've been along suffering New Zealand cricket
fans been like that. When you look back at Jesse Ryder,
first thing that jumps into your mind is what is
it firstly as cricket or is that? A second thing
is it is the alcohol issues that dramas have got
himself into. What do you look at Jesse Ryder as.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And think you can't really think of one without the other,
can you? Because when I think of Jesse, I think,
oh could have been you know, we were talking out
in the office earlier and about you know, this New
Zealand team. You know, you could have had a batting
lineup of Williamson, Taylor, McCullum, Ryder. You know you would
never lose a game.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
It's incredible. But I think that is ultimately a Jesse
Rider story and he like full credit to him for
actually being open about this and acknowledging how it did
go wrong, you know, and that's very brave and for
someone like Jesse who's at the problems he had but
he let's not also forget he was. You know, they
did turn it back and there was a period of
time where he went sober for two years. He went
(12:43):
over and played in England and Cantergory for Essex and
did great turn into an all rounder was everything.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It was seen as a problem, wasn't he He was
easier to just not include him than to include him,
because yeah, we're going to get a great cricketer, but
what's it going to come with?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And that's ultimately I think very sad. We can't coming
back to that word sad, don't we that so many
people tried to help Jesse and they couldn't, you know.
But now I mean time sort of heels all words
that and now I think Jesse looks back at his
time and realizes that he could have done things like
he spoke to him. I spoke to him for the
Herald and I asked him, what would you tell you
form your younger self, And he said, I just would
(13:18):
have calmed down a bit and maybe stopped going out
as much.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Because that was interesting because we we talking about this
before as well, from the ages of like you know,
sixteen seventeen to about thirty Mayles a idiot. They do
dumb things. It's just the ride of passage. Unfortunately, sometimes
it collides with great sporting talent and you're going to
have a big off. And that's what he had. He
had a skit, all the talent, but too much fun
(13:41):
on one side.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I think everyone in sport in this country has a
story about someone they've played with growing up who could
have been, you know, the best player, but just couldn't
get it all together. And for a lot of people,
that's Jesse Ryder. The unfortunate thing was that he did
it at the highest level.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, you got Zach Gilford as well. That's not unusual.
And I think when you also pile on the media
and the fame, it's very hard to understand how you'd
react to that. It's a very strange space, and some
people it excids them, and obviously it's skinded them as well.
I mean, everyone knows who you are, what you do.
I expect to be quite overpowering, and drinks probably quite
(14:17):
a nice way to hide from that.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
There's an American basketball coach I can't remember his name,
but he has a quote about that of being an
athlete at that level, you don't earn so much money
for what you do. You earn that much money because
your life isn't yours anymore, and some people really don't
get to terms with that.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It would be extraordinarily difficult. And that's why you see
famous people on all walks of life coupling up, because
you found someone who actually understands the pressures you're going under,
and no one cares. But when I look back at
Jesse Ryder and I'm looking forward to watching him throw
a bat around because seeing him wander around with a
back like toothpick and just flailing everybody. Two standout memories
(14:58):
Queenstown and Napier Will one test one one Dan International.
I just sit there on the watching those going Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Think a lot of people forget Queens down, don't they?
Because Corey Anderson went off at the other end. But Jesse,
that was the sixth fastest century of all time. It's
now the ninth because of the way credit's gone. The
honest day, Jesse Ryder was as good as he.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Tests that game against India, and you've got Ross Taylor
and Jesse Ryder and their central kids just have an
absolute field day. And that was playing with freedom, everything
had been unlocked. Just go for it, play express yourself.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I remember, I think it was Martin Crowe in commentary
at the time, said that this this was going to
be it. This is going to be the guy who
gets three hundred and he gets two hundred and drags
on next ball.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I think, well, Martin Crow was one that came out before,
just before that, and said, look, I'm not really quite
sure if the Pussifica or Marty you quite have the
required concentration. It's quite racist to do well in cricket,
and that's what hasn't happened. And then you queue the
Salmon and the Marty and they wander out and have
a massive partnership against India. So like, wow, Martin Crow
(16:06):
memorial partnership, you call it that. Look, I knew Martin
got on on them really well, he'll laugh at that.
So I'm not speaking ill of the dead, but I
did find that irony quite delightful. On is there a
chance that Nelson Solomona, the walking Penalty is going to
end up playing for the Warriors. It's it's been floated,
Is it likely? I mean, Mike Burgess has been all
(16:28):
over here from the Herald.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Well, it sounds like no. So from what Birge, my
brilliant colleague, has dived into, it sounds like there was
talks and there was an offer on the table. But
can the Warriors actually get Nelson a sophomore and under
the salary cap? Sound that? I can't remember? He took
a huge payout from the Storm to get over the
last few years of his deal. Could they have gotten
(16:49):
him for cheap on that? You know, the same way
that Matt Lodge left the Warriors and were still paid
by the club for a year.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's a name I really didn't want to hear a game,
but thank you.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, but it sounds like no. There might be bigger
players in the market. Pam Ottaiels do have a lot
of money to play with now that they've just lost
a Lomax coach. Jason Ryles came from Melbourne store where
he would have had an existing relationship with Nelson, So
if that's where he goes, then that might just be a.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Melbourne for how long? Now out of Wellington? Could you
even get it back here in the first place? Would
he want to? Melton's a great city.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I think it's more than half his life. He's been
at the Storm, which is huge, you know, but they
understand that. It's like we're talking about Jesse Ryder. You
need there are some guys who just need more support,
and Nelson might be one of those guys. You know,
there's no question about his ability on the field. You know,
I wouldn't want to be against them because he's twice
the size of me.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I wouldn't want him in the team because he is
a walking card. And that's what worries man and it's
a it's a constant has been. I mean, he's a
huge human being and sometimes he get himselves into positions
you simply can't get out of because he's so high
and so wide and so big, and he's got that
inherent aggression which he needs a prop and lee. But
he tends too much to be disciplined. And we know
(18:02):
what the NRL do to the worries. He need find
another prop, find a new one.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Well, I don't even That's the other thing. I don't
really think they need them in that squad. I think
you look at the Fords they've got, you know, Mitch Barnett,
Dams Fisher, Harris merth In, the Arquarterer. You've got all
the young kids. You got Demitric Rommonger, you've got Aaron Clark,
They're now Lackahla Sema Jacob Evan like, these are some
bloody good players and it's a good core that you
can build.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And they're not wildly expensive and they can be molded.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh they will be expensive.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Eventually, eventually, Aaron Clark. I mean, how they got home.
I've got no idea, but I worked a treat, didn't it.
And it's about you mentioned Vomonga and this guy is
a potential Warriors captain in the future. I'd hate to
think how many other guys like that are floating around
in the Fox memorial. There'd be a pile of them.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Well, that's that's the issue the Warriors always had, is
that they there is just as a room for all
the talent they've got. You know, how often do we
see someone playing for you know, the Roosters or the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
They can't everybody.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
The Warriors had them, you know who was it. Luke
Matcuff said this earlier this year that he didn't like
seeing that when you're playing it Sky and you know
that they were an explorance all now playing against them.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. I don't think it
will and I think it's a positive that they look
at the talent and not paying overs for a talent
that what is he? Twenty nine? Yeah, threto years old.
They've still got a few games left in them. But
a bit of a folk hero, bit of a liability
and on that, let's unlock the door. Alex Powell out
of a chamber. You go, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
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