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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now for the thousands in attendance and the millions
around the world.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Who wish they could be here.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Ladies and gentlemen, let's get already for sports coffee.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
That's better.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Those are the new titles. Yeah have you guys?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Yeah yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Now we've got Lee. Lee's not with us in the
studio today. Welcome to the TB Sports Cafe.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Ish me, how are you fellas? I'm in can coon.
You could see that behind me if we're necessarily like
I wanted to, but you can't say anything now there's
a pool there and the ocean right over there. But
also recommit of an issue. I'll be putting this on
your bill. By the way, what you recommended this place?
(00:51):
You know, once you pay or you can eat or
you can drink. They told me you came here last year.
Apparently that's why you recommended it, and they called you
all do gone Grunde, which is the giant gone. You
went into the buffet. You went into the buffet, cleared
it out and changed that policy. Now, yeah, we're suffering,
but anyway, it's it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Can we just clarify something. By the time I finished
in a player that Carmen. I was one hundred and
three kg.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
You were one hundred and forty seven kg. You fell
asleep on a lounger and got horribly sunburned. You got
castled out of there on a streacher.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I've got seventy five kg. When you went in, they
sent you.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
It's not the first thing.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Anyway, Enough about me, because you're not here obviously, Lee,
You're in Mexico. I walked in on these two covered
in maple syrup and feathers and glitter about to wrestle.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's about team and team culturing. And you know, within
a team there are separate, disparate individuals, all of whom
you know, bond in different ways and see joy and
pleasure and happiness in different ways. And yeah, I think
we're aready right now.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah, what better we to get to know each other.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
What I'm trying to do is make sure this guy
just has a reasoned approach to what is moderately PC
and what's offensive and let's just get away with the way.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And that's the theme, isn't it. That's the theme of
the episode. Isn't it teamwork?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah it is, And you knew it. You picked it
up immediately, you see.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Right, certainly. Yeah, well, and you're supposed to be here
to sort of keep things on a level sort of
political correctness, and like that image of you is one
that I probably you know, lying sort of in your
speedo's covered in glittering. Like that's not what I'm looking
for from you.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Oh well, that was sort of a team that, you know,
negotiation that happened last week and we came to an agreement.
Maybe we just won't do it here, Maybe we'll take
it somewhere else, like your favorite coffee.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
The minutes early anyhow, I mean, it would have been
over and done with, It would have been clean. You
wouldn't have had you wouldn't been any of the wise
of it. What do you do? You're strolling early because
you're so eager.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, so that's probably a good time. And we're talking
about teamwork. Is what are you drinkingly?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's what over here?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
He brought in a bottle of mescal for you. I
see you at the end and celebration, sure, but a
local one.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Here, so we could we have a good time just
on that front as well. Actually wrecked yesterday both my
son you know, he's nineteen. Now we both got kind
of food poisoning. Not blaming you for that. I went
to the doctor here hotel doctor, and he was quite funny.
Actually he gave us seat at tequila shop, and you
know what, it pretty much fixed it, Sammy. He went
(03:27):
back to bed. I went on like a two day
bender once he once he got me going, I couldn't
really stop.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But that's the other thing that I said over there
is the Mexican chocolates. I rained our hands for forty
seven hours. It was incredible.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah, right, just release.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Just while we're talking about teamwork, I think we should
bring our first guests. And so you know, Sam Kine,
who you know was our World Cup captain, is now
in camp with the All Blacks. He's injured, but you
know pictively is our reporter on the All Black camp. Sam,
Welcome to the t AB Sports Cape.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Is thanks Charles, What what honor? Only the second episode
I understand.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
So yeah, well the first one pretty much.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Surprised that that.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Could be the sicken and maybe the last, hopefully second
to last.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The first one is now with the police, but we're
hoping this will go over here.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
He's on the run.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Anyway, Hey, we've got to behave because we've got an
all black with us. Sam. Okay, so first of all,
what's your injury? What what's what's keeping you back from playing?
Is it still the back?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Yeah, it's my back. I am remember back to the
start of the World Cup. I like to pull out
of the first game against France. That pretty much the
day before I started up at captain's run. And if
you went back to probably something I've been managing on
and off my whole rugby career for sure, not put
(05:02):
together too well.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
I've got one league longer than the.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Other substantially, so I've got to wear in a sole
in my in my left foot, in my left shoe
and everything I wear.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Can I get away with this? I mean, I reckon
it's a result of it's white genetics. It's they're inferior
to brown brown.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Well, we're all.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You can't get away with it.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well, white guys can't dance, they're not as quick when
you come wrong. You know, they don't have like the
six pack that the browner fellas have. You know, I
just think that genetically, you know, while Sands with magnificent specimen,
you know, if he were just slightly dark, he wouldn't
have any of those issues.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
And then putting it down to race Sam as your
backsaw because you've been carrying the team for all these years, or.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
A on that.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
What's it been like being in the new environment, you know,
it's a new coach, et cetera.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
How's that been, Yes, it's been good. It's like it.
It really is a bit of a sort of change
of an era, because it's ever since I suppose Graham
Henry took over.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
I'm not sure when that was.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Was that after the eighteen hundreds, I.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Think yeah, when he last took when he took over,
there's been sort of like a bit of a well, no,
it's been reappointed from within, so there's been a lot
of changes.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Still some sort of some real key staff from.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Behind the scenes that keep keep the machine tacking, but
a lot of fresh ideas, a lot of changes.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
So I think boys are pretty excited.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
The only time I sent a changing room with Razor,
he was on the music he's a you know, I'd
imagine it'd be a fun changing and be a good,
good culture, like good dude.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Yeah, we haven't been obviously, no changing room year.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
We've been float out training, but there's been a bit
of music Saturday night, a couple of quiet stinis after
a good, big, sort of four days work, just to
sort of get around each other and decompress a.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Bit when you've got a coach that you've actually got
to rain and every now and again. Gordon Hunter was
like that. You know, he was the loosest of the team,
and we had a marvelous run for a tager and
I reckon Rais is probably the guys that.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Have to.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Can I just ask a serious question? I mean you
obviously team culture, team building. Were there any feathers, maple
syrup and glitter involved.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
In the cheerios?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
We are cheeriot not not the sausages, the cheerio cereal.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
So I'm guessing no, nah, no we what do we
have on Saturday?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
They brought in like a ice cream machine and we
could sprinkle some chocolate flake and some few different sprinkles,
et cetera on it, but nothing nothing quite like that.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
It's not far away. We could wrestle that easily.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
You've given us ideas, get you under.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
A sprinkle on it, sprinklin one on the sprinkles. Okayus question.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
From now that you're in camp obviously, are you having
the opportunity to get alongside them and give them your experience?
Speaker 7 (08:14):
What cut out?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Can you ask it again? Make we miss that? Sorry
there's a technical question.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yes, my question was Sam, you've been there. While you
mentioned the legacy coaching. You might not want to comment
on this, but do you think it was time for
a change, etcetera. If you'll get coaching in.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
You know. No, You're right, I don't want to comment.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
It's a great answer.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So quite often Sam, when tequila is involved, the questions
become a little bit more pointed.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
So so to miss Gale, this is a beautiful drive.
Have a glg of that, mate, you'll love it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, I'm just going to ask a serious question.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
If I had my time again, I probably wouldn't have
leave finished. It would have just carried on asking rix questions.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, please tell me Scott, so that you know Ras
is going to do a break a backspin if he wins.
Imagine an all black coach coming out and doing a backsman,
I'd be so stoked the whole of New Zealand and
get behind it. Be a positive thing.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Let's just focus on trying to Yeah, sure, how's how
are you helping Scott Barrett adjust to the role of
being captain. Are you spending some time with.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Him, just like letting him know that obviously once he
got appointed, fliped and the tea congratulating him, letting him
know like he's got my full support. I think he's
the right man for the job and I always here
to true the fat. And then once for end camp,
I said, he's got a lot to worry about. He
also runs the Alllex lineout, which is a big task
(09:46):
in itself. So I've said, look, it's any off field
things or things you want me to bloody chip in
or help out with, take a load off if your
back and just let me know. So now he's his
own man. I think you're do an awesome job.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Do you have a time period on your injury or
is it just like is that part of the frustration
you just don't know.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
When No, I do, hopefully very soon. I mean that's
part of the reason why I'll be lucky enough to
get to come in here and do some training, because
the last sort of box on needy tick is doing
rugby specific training, and funnily enough, it's other than maybe
going to Tuesday Thursday night club training. There's actually no
other professional teams assembled, so get in here, get some
(10:30):
real live training done and maybe a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So just one last question about Japan, Samri, trying to
bring it back to normal. What I'm thinking. You obviously
really enjoyed your time in Japan, so you're going back.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Yeah, I was never sort of on the cards. It
was only I was only going for six months and
was going to come back for the remaining eighteen months
one US one rugby contract, and then.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Played the first seven games.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
And then they put it off the forward for a
three year contract, but it required me playing the next
the next season, which meant having to go back to
US on rugby and discussing getting a release. So yeah,
in the end, just the certainty of a three year deal.
(11:20):
I'm not getting any younger. But he's taken a put
them a beating over the last sort of the whole career,
but mainly the last five or six years seemed to
have picked up a few more things.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
And yeah, just the security.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
That's a contract that takes me through to thirty five
years old, which always thought would be a pretty good
shift as an open side flanker.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
The Dane age.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, mate, you've had an incredible career. And but Japan,
I mean what a play. So I mean if you're
worried about glitter and if you fear this, I mean
every alleyway down there, if you go down there's there's
rabbit holes, rabbit holes on rabbit holes upon rabbit holes
over in Japan. Have you been y I'm curious, George mate,
not iver been down.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I'm very curious now too.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And and as a reporter on Camp Sam, can we
be confident going into this Test match? How are things
shaping up? Big game?
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Good, there's obviously like the coaches have had six months
at least preparation to build up, so they've been chomping
at the bit to get their hands on the boys.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
And but a lot of.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Good ideas and in this week just be about nailing
the preparation. The boys want to go into the Test
real decisive. It's nice knowing that because we're training in
the rainer but this last last week while but to
go under the roof down and done us, it's going
to be a real treat and hopefully can last to
play some good all black footage straight off the bat.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
What a stadium I mean, are the Poems the team
that you want to beat more than any other? I mean,
I know it's traditionally been in Australia, but just the
pomposity of these pommy it really annoys me. The fact
that they throw us into the bloody Wars is cannon
fight a pear to Capita New Zealand lots more men
because of the poms sitting back, sending the Antipothians old by.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Just just to give some context, Mark was a team
when we lost to England in ninety three, so he's
still in quite good over it.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Sure, and the mess is talking and I think I
don't know poms is such a good word these days either,
but shut up? Okay, all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, you have the rest of that, well not the
rest of it.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Are you're giving it to me because it's my side?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Sorry? Can I ask you questions?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Mexicanswer question? Oh yes, brilliant? Okay, sorry mate, wasn't yes
bad Mike.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
My question from Mexico Sam is defensive bomb. Obviously you
can't give away all the moves that the boys have
been training. Has the defensive bomb been an option we've
thrown out there?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
So you're saying sort of like you're getting close to
twenty two, and just put one up under the post.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You're hot on you're hot on defense on your own tylane.
You put a bomb. You put a bomb up behind
your own posts, put them one off side, retrieve it
and hopefully score it the other end.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
It's long shot, but be fair, I've never even I've
never even heard it called like hot on defense.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Five minutes from your own triler.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
You've been tackling twenty phases on your mind.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
No over and just put it straight up.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well hopefully it's not even to turnover. You just catch
your own bomb and you're away. Okay, what the hell
you got to kick outside?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
It raises and ideas, man, So I'll take it to him.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Take it, Take them this, Take them this one. I've
always thought it now in the game, when it when
it finished. I always wanted to do this back in
our day. But now they kick it out in the
eightieth minute, it doesn't and they kick it backwards. You know,
whereas that would have never happened. I'd love to have
and I wish I'd had the balls to do it.
When you're an eighty minutes, just go like an Ossie
rules player bouncing a ball behind you and shoot one
through your own posts and then signal six points.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And what's the idea of that?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, just having laugh, I mean the game's over, you're
ahead by seven, run backwards and put a six pointer
through and get the.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Whole team, and then you hurt the upright the upright
it bounces back.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You've got to be eight points up. Eight points up.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
There's another ideas there for you here like that. Appreciate
your time, mate, and and all the best in your recovery.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Cheers.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
This is our last show.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, by the time we finished this part a little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I can't I can't believe Sam. It's not familiar with
the defensive bomb. That's that's disappointing. Hey, Wreck, On another note,
I understand you've been trying to get Ahold of Blama
to come on the show. Yeah, she's not responding.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I've tried all the numbers.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I've even tried it, mate, Well you think you have.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
More chance than me.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I may have tracked it down to Europe. I think
she's somewhere in Europe trying to get away from the podcast.
But if I'm him to do it for Mexico. I
think she should have to come on, So maybe week
I might try and hook up with her what not literally,
but you know, get her on the show.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'll give you a warning. I've been trying that for
seven years.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
It didn't work every show.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But so if I if I maybe talk to Lana
through you, she might answer through you to me.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I wouldn't put it that way back. Yeah, that could
be the option I think sher only option.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
She loves a hand message.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Well, I could say it's a different podcast. I pretend
it someone else's podcast. Yeah, and it's too late.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Can I just sort of At the end of last
week's podcast, I talked about the importance of just bringing
each week something that made you feel good, you know,
And I'll give you an example this week. For me,
it was I was watching some highlights on YouTube of
Glastonbury and Coldplay came on. They sung Fixed You to
(16:50):
about one hundred thousand people, and they brought of all people,
Michael J. Fox on. You know, obviously Michael's not well.
They brought him on in a wheelchair with a guitar
and they paid tribute to them and it was an
amazing moment. So that was the sort of thing I
was looking for, and so Mark sent me this as
the thing that made him feel good.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You were watching a master at work.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
It's god damn genius, Isn't.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
It just to describe because a podcast is not visual.
You know, people are listening to us. It's a it's
a largish.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
It's basically you, mate, it's a fat guy running in
a bull ring and a Spider Man suit, and he
sprints toward the edge of the round cage and just
jumps up and hooks a leg in an arm over
the top of the cage and just holds onto it
like a Spider Man.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
It's good.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And so why did that make you feel good?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Fat?
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Please?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Without saying the word fat.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Well, morbid, morbid, chat grotesquely amanity on legs. Anyhow, it
made me feel good because he's out there wearing a
he thinks he's Spider Man and he's behaving like Spider Man.
Who's to say that Spider Man needs to be a
certain shape or a certain race or a color. He's
(18:10):
having fun and that's what I liked about it. And
so to the crowd, did you hear the iteration of
the crowd? They loved him? Why do you have to
point to us because you're the PC guy you know,
just told me not to call him fat. Why can't
fat people be spider Man?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Well, it's the use of language that you really.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Got to Let's just take a break and just take
a just take a breath. Though.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
You can't call people fat anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You can't call me fat face.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Okay, well mate, you're not fat, But I'll tell you
what you're You're not blue steel like that photo behind
you either, I mean right behind you, you've got blue seal. No,
I mean, it's absolutely preposterous. What how you've put the
one photo out of about fifty thousand photos we've had
that you like of you behind you where you start
(18:56):
looking You actually look like who's that George Costanza, but
in a bigger, more sexy version.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Welcome back. So we've got Liam Mixer. What are you
doing in mixed guts?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's a good question. I thought we were all going
to be here. So this will be going on your bill.
I'll be invoicing you for for most of this work
trip that I'm here for. Well, I'm here to find myself.
You're just you're just lose myself. M hm.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Hey, Rama, has it you're going to Europe next week?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, next week?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, see you out there.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Exactly, and we might be zooming in.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, well it would be nice to you know. I mean, jeez,
I'd imagine this is well fantasy Atlanta's as well, but
the three of us to sort of come rest.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
The guys came over to Europe and to the show
over there than I was trying to zoom in baking.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, no, no, we this is a New Zealand based podcast.
I mean the fact that you're in Mexico. I prefer
you to stay in.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
You've got no problems with you, Mi Alana ye.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Can I ask what how you think the All Black
are going to go?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Say? Can I just say, you got to remember back
at the Olympics. I did the Beijing Olympics from l A,
Jersey Land, and I did the Rome Olympics from London.
So getting a bit of distance and perspective and stuff's
not a bad thing. Can I just go right back
on the show?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Can I go right back to the titles that were
at the beginning, and we had Michael Buffett doing Let's
get really for Sports Cafe and macer asked me if
that was a I as if I'd artificially created it,
even though Michael Buffett was a guest on the show
which Mark was in.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You have Michael Buffet Thompson.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, that's that's another job. That's his other job. He's
a real estate agent. But then the rest of the
time at barforton Thompson's and then the rest of the
time he's going around the world doing let's get ready to.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Let's get ready to rumble, Let's get ready And do
you know what he gets paid every time he does
that for a title title fight? One million yuis Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Which is why he wouldn't do that for us. He said,
let's get ready to sports Cafe. And do you not
remember him being on the show.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I don't know remember any of the shows. That's why
I'm here again. You know, it's just like repeating rents,
repeating rents.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Can you remember when the first time we had Lee
on the show?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yesnail go absolutely, I mean what did you it was?
It wasn't a show until you said made do you
know any weirdos? And I mean how you want back.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Then you could see that?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, well you can't weird that's all right.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Can you remember Lee?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
The first time and you're on the show. How that
came about?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Not really. I do remember Mark coming to my flat
and talking into coming on the show, which I was
pretty nervous about until he showed me this tupware container
plus snails.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I actually I got the snails out of the back
of my yard under these rocks, and I got eight
or ten big bangers, you know. And until I showed
you that, I was serious with the tough wee contatter
with the snails. And then he had a brown and
black tracks it was glorious. The next thing, you know,
he's selling you know, a check brand for multi you know.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But the thing is, that's.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What story?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
What story could actually have it like that? If you
can't imagine it, you're.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Poked, And how do you go from that to that?
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Can you please write a book called The Honest Truth
and just put all the stories in it?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Because when when we talked about having a snailman a
snow racer on the show, Maca said to me, I
found the guy. I found someone that's that's going to
do this, and you wrote like a three four page
manifesto on the life of the snow.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Someone else first, And he said, nah, So I said, okay,
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Did we I.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Think you might have come into the plant and it's
Lou Thompson and somebody said he would.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Have been doing Lou was the one who did the
ball bag through the middle of did you know? And
then there was the party where Simpson we had to go.
It was a pea party, and so's we'll not p
but like it's dread up with dress up. Yeah, making sure, yeah,
we don't do that. No, I'm just undermine. And so
(23:20):
he dressed up with glad rap. That was the only
thing because of plastics, So just wrap himself with glad
rap and he was node underneath the glad rap. And
so he was obviously one of the contemplations for a
snail racer.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What mar reminis is about his life, it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I can remember that, but I can't remember anything. Michael.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, here's here's the first time Lee was on the show.
Good are you will drank? Well, your snails will drink?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Will be realistic? Right, we're going over there. We're optimistic.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But the competition in the States is incredible.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
But if we could come back with the medal, there'd
be of any color, of any color, because those snails.
There are a lot of drugs in your sport. Once
we get the States, yeah, we'll be going for it.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Sorry, right, you better come in.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
So can this snails race or there's just some kind
of a conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Sure they can race, but at that level, I don't know.
I'm not a professional. I'm not not as good, not
as good as I thought, not as good as I
told everyone on the show. It's the drugs, the booze,
(24:45):
the run stopped coming.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
I'm sorry, h hold me.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I just wanted to get on TV. I wanted to
have a shut.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Certainly made the most of that.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Can I just ask, did you guys actually race nails?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, I'll tell you what it's really good?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Can I? Can I just clarify A lot of stuff
we did in the show was for humor. I can
not all of it was real.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I was going to say animal cruelty there, but well, no,
it's not forget.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'll never forget's face. Most had no idea what was
going on. Also, when I use today it's one of
the snails. You wouldn't wouldn't get away at that.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
No, definitely not.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
However, that was a lolly. But you know the snail lollies.
The rubber was.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Flabber and that moments changed your life.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, it probably has, probably has. That was the startup
that definitely started sports. Cat for sure Sports.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I thought you mean it was the start of the show.
Everything we've done before was irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
No, No, it's the startup. It's definitely started on sports
and whatever happened after.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Now, man, now we've got the T A. B On
as a sponsor again and they've given me.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Tell me what the story is with the All Blacks
versus England, because I'm bloody interested in that. I would
have thought they would have been neck and neck.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Do you reckon? So one of the odds in New Zealand,
the All Blacks are the dollar twelve England at five
dollars fifty whole huge.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, so you're team there's what the proper team? Yeah, yeah,
sen proper team.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's been a good team. But I think so I've
been I've been given the responsibility of of all of
us to bet some money each week to raise a
bit of a kiddie. And I want to know, do
I bet it on the All Blacks? Because I mean,
I find it hard to ever bet against the All.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Black No, I always bet against them, and I'll tell
you why I do it Because if you go out
with your mates and you put money on the All
Blacks and they win and you've put money on the
opposition and you've lost it, you're not as excited as
they are, so it actually keeps you controlled. Conversely, if
they lose, you're depressed, but you're above more related. So
(27:28):
it's all about, you know, running a straight line.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Right, So you think we should bet on England to.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Well at those odds? Absol bloody lately because they're they're
they're arrogant to the instagree, they'll believe, they'll back themselves in.
All the rules these days are based around slowing the
game down, being you know, manipulating stuff, and so I
reckon the poems obviously running the IRB.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You know we can't leave what do you think, macactly?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Because All Blacks tend to start a bit slow first
match the game, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, I think, I mean I never want to better
get to your black cider. But who's going to know it?
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I mean with with.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Catherine Wheels running it, it's going to be it's going
to be a whole new game. I just think they
could be so up that it could be a thirty
pointer and.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Then the other one, the other one. I've got some
money on the Euros to soccer England. There are the
dollar fifty eight versus Switzerland at two dollars thirty five.
Now Switzerland beat the might of Italy, will be the
greatest football nation in the world.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
They won't even the last World Cup. What do you
mean the greatest nation?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, they were busy.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Play in the second grade.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And and like England's in mourning, you know, because they're
not happy with their team, but they keep winning.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Go for a copa America for the World champions.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It's a bit hard to put money on Argentina when
we're talking about England Switzerland. We shall have put my money.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Got to choose one Teamland, but England.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I mean it's like asking who should you back against Australia.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Right, So we're betting on England and the rugby and
Switzerland in the football. Happy with that, So.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
How much you're betting our wages? Lee's We had a
chat before this.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
And yeah, Lee's wages went on a strip to put
it on that.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
He's just charging it back to account.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Just gamble responsibly.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
People, Where do you think I'm going next week?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Am I paying for you as well?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Get some beating up over there and with Lana as well.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And while we were in this, when this whole idea
of looking back at shows so Mark can remember what
he did, there's one show they could tell Mark anything.
So remember that time you did such and such. I
just make it up and you'd believe it.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I've got I've got a small, small trough. So if
you look at a process for a brain.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Shower, let's let's have a look back at the moment
that Mark met his idol.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Although admittedly one thing that has a lowered my opinion
of you somewhat as the lack of mustache.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
At the moment.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
What's what I mean? You've got a good full set
of hair on the lip there. You're going to bring
it back? Do you think?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Well, it was the seventies and eighties thing, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well, cheez, you know why that sort of potential. I'll
be right into it now. In the nineties, I can't
get through to the new millennium. It might be great
now though, good sure you know we don't want to get.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Two now you actually had quite a big influence on
the career of a young Valentonian Mark Ellis.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
It's true. Yeah, Well, when I was a youngster, I
must have been all the five or six. I was
over at the park and wads down there kicking a
little ball over this tree which was the imaginary goal post,
and you, of all people, drove past and went down
the windows. The good kick lead and that was enough
to send me home scampering to the olds who thought
(30:56):
I'd either be molested or something pretty bad, because I
couldn't for about two minutes, and then I managed to
get it out that big Murray had given me a
bit of a slip on the back and a hand
along the way, so emotional stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, I was moved too, obviously.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Do you remember doing that?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
You're responsible for him playing at their eight? Yeah, I
thought you're going to say, yeah, I thought you're going
to blame me for the way you kicked the ball. Man.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Well thanks.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I love when your idols like they're positive about you.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
You know, beautiful man, no doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
I mean, can I just ask for how come you're
sitting like that? Yeah, your knee up on the table
and you know you had your hand on your knee.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
It was what are you sitting like that?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Mate?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yeah? Because jeez, I could have got actually got you
on a small package of we wrestled.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I can't reach the ground mark. That's why I'm sitting
like this?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Fair enough?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
And what was wrong with my sitting?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Wind?
Speaker 5 (31:56):
You've got You've got to see the picture. You've got
your leg up on the table.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Here he goes, just so cock Sure, I tell you,
I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why he's sitting
like that for the same reason he's put this photo
up behind it. You would come up for blue seal.
I mean, everyone else looks like nothing but blue steels.
It's like George Costanza with a sort of a perverted
(32:20):
look in his face.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I don't choose the photo. It's just, you know, I'm
just a good looking man. I mean, there's not much
I can do about it.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
I reckon you can.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
But we'll just let that set, let that take its face,
Let people kind of.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
How are you so? What are your what are your plans?
And over the next few days in Mexico?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Well done, mate, well done?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Probably nothing tomorrow, my chickouts and ruins.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
What you mean, look at the mirror.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Whatever he's got to strength.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I'm just here relaxing, really, just trying to, you know,
lose myself, find myself, and then lose myself again.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
You know, can I ask you, Lee, have you brought
you know, like when when you're at school you bring
something to show and tell. Have you brought something I
don't know what you show them told? Have you brought
something to the group about what's made you feel good
this week?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Well? I didn't get the heads up on that once again,
so look around the room. Yeah, okay, I suppose the
only thing that's really been making me feel good is
is this since I been here? To be honest, what cheers?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
God? I thought you're going to grab a sailor sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
That's a weekly thing.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, that's a good.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
So every week I want you to bring, like, what
is something that's really made you feel positive about the world?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
You know?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And yours is tequila.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
That contrived to me?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:12):
You know, I mean, like I wake up every morning,
Well it's great, happy person.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
It feels about facebooky Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, it feels a bit. But let's put it like
a podcast on youtubeh you know.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, Well I'm sticking with it self. Indulgent.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah, it's just like you know, I like Corduroys and
the rest of the world can follow my train.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I'm in Mexico living my best life. Kind of hashtag yeahshtang, Yeah, hashtag.
It's a little bit, a little.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Bit hashtags and the perneum Yeah, that will be over
your head.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
I don't know half the stuff you guys are talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
You don't even have Corduroys on.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
No, I don't because I'm not as nef as you.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I'll tell you what Mike have on speedos, right, yeah,
underneath this seen that, We'll.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Let you go make me feel good. Actually, Rick, I'm
heading up to the Mariachi band tonight, probably doing a
few numbers of them. That'll be fun. They've asked me
to do that. Back tomorrow morning, I'm running the water
robots in the pool of robots in the pool asked
me if I could do that, you know, the sort
of you know, get all the old people in the pool.
(35:27):
So it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
I've done that a few times in Europe when you
just can't do anything else right, and and they do it.
This is the absurdity. They sit in a warm pool
waiting to die on the treadmill. But they're on like
a cycle, like on a cycle in the pool, which
makes it even harder. And obviously it's not good for
rusk or the machines must last for a very short
(35:48):
period of time.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
So they've got exercycles in the poll in the.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Pool because of the resistance training. Right are they electric.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Electric? It is a short course of the electric.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
The short thing. But it's not right. How can they
be electric? And a fucking Paul.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Well safety reasons?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
That's all right, I'll enjoy the ECUA Aerobics lee and uh,
it's it's just.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Want to get involved, just want to get involved, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, it's something that I'm doing on a regular basis. Now.
The Ecuer Aerobics are ready enjoying it, you know.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
With my group, I'll tell you what they love over there.
They love a sandpaper excellent, you just put you know that.
They like LaRusso when he did the wax home wax off. Yeah,
you basically do that on a Sunday and back and
you charge a lot of money for it with hard
sand paper. Yeah yeah, don't do that, yeahs off and
(36:45):
charge a lot of them and feel happy and you know,
it ends when the.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Let's let's make that our happy ending.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Want me to tell them that I've been talking to you.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Don't tell them where I am. Don't, don't. I preferred that,
like I recommended that hotel to you, but I actually
prefer you not to mention my name there. It was
an unfortunate sort of you know, we sort of just
cross purposes.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Really.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
You know when they said it was an audio eat
I can eat buffet, I thought I can eat everything.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah, I thought you would have noticed this.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
The problem mate, there's a big difference between Blue Steel
and Great Herd Steel, Great Herd.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I mean it's incredible, I mean, right, thank you, good night,
all right, when it's not che