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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And it's warm Welcome to Universe Boss aka Chris Gail,
one of the finest to ever pick up a piece
of willow and hammer the leather to the boundaries and
indeed over the boundaries. We've got them on because the
Hot Spring Spars T twenty Black Clashing association with Wolfbrook
is said to go on Saturday, January the eighteenth, twenty
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twenty five. It's at the Hagley Oval in christ Church.
We're super excited about Chris Gale turning up. Chris, Welcome.
I presume you're pretty excited too.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Absolutely, I'm buzzing to come over here as well. But
you know what, I was looking forward to a rugby game,
not a cricket game, because I want to be on
the old black swing, going down.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
The stretch, bump as you guys out my way and
then we get a try. But unfortunately it's going to
be crickets. Yeah, I'm looking forward to you.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Christy. The size of a building, pal, what position do
you think you're playing rugby?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Listen?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I only know about the winging it so and those
long legs going down the stretch. Yeah, that's me quick
and fast like you're seeing going down the stretch and
you know try.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
So they've got to use me.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Why they've got to know how to use me to
get the try and you.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Know saying I think that, I think that's done right.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well you're in Team Rugby, say you're in the right
place to get a few tips from the boys here.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I will by The first tip I want to learn
is the act because when I see the gang victuring
the rest of them, I know all the other guys,
I'm going to give them the.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
So yeah, I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
At we should probably seeing you the words, Chris, because
thing you know, actually know what.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
You're saying exactly. I need that screw.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So I'm presuming and engaging in TEA twenty your game
like you've still got the fire in your belly. You
still want to play these games even though it's not international.
What'sacked a bit of light entertainment.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean I've played a few games like
the Legend League, so yeah, I'm still actively playing this
type of cricket, but this one is more like a fun,
fun side of things as well. You know, given it
given that you're you're retired now and you're going to
see some old folks we used to play against and
the competitive against as well. So yeah, and I'll be
under all Black steams, something totally different. I'm looking forward
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to being in that rest room, you know, with the
RUGBA players and you see what is it like Brian Laura,
you know, played in the one this year as well.
You know, when I first saw it, I don't remember
remember where exactly I was, but I thought it was
a tournament.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I didn't know. I didn't know the Black Clash. You know.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It's only when I talked to him and then yeah,
and then's Stephen Fleming trying to reach out as well
and say, listen, you want to have you next year,
and then I'm like, oh sure, yeah, and then my
agent reach out to to Carlina and then you know
that's this is all.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
We'll actually kind of hear it today as well. So
I'm excited to be a part of it, hopefully against
Nashing Baller is all out of the pot and give
the All Blacks a win on the one more win
because the cricket is leading them.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Guys, you rig at the moment, Chris, so you're still
on that pretty good nick. Your body's coping, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I don't want to give away too much, you know
to bannisdo. My birthday party coming up now. That's why
I'm training for my party right about now. My beach
body party, says a deal that's set the about the
twenty first, and then after my body after flies immediately
straight to India to play the Legend League. So I'm
not good after myself, you know, getting a lot of massage.
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We still have a January over there. By January I
will have a six pack right now. It's on the
bier side of things. So yeah, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
As far as cricket's concerned. And the record books like
I could go through them right now, but we haven't
got time. You've had an astonishing career. But what about
when you started, when you first I suppose headed up
as a young man. What can the expectations did you
have around what you may achieve in this sport? We
like you before you full up blaster.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
You know, as a youngster, you know you're joining an
international team for the first time. You know, after you
play playing for your country being so dominant, you know,
But when I started out playing international cricket, I was
like pretty much tear free. I wasn't really looking down
the road, you know what's coming, and when I was
just playing in the moment and enjoying it being swashed, buffling, attacking.
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And then it's only when they get dropped out of
the team that's when you get that wake up call
and realize how serious the international level of cricket is.
And then when you actually look into yourself now, then
you're going to set yourself that target, like say, hey,
do you really want to go further? Do you want
to be one of the big stars. Do you want
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to be one of the main.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Player the team?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So you start to ask myself question once you're out
of the team. So when I was out of the team, now,
I said to myself, I was doing ninety five by
the time when I get dropped from West Indies, played
like four test matches and get dropped immediately. So I'm
like listening, the next time I get the opportunity back
in Western this team, I'm not going to look back
because I didn't like the ninety five job as well,
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like sitting around a computer on this that like, yo,
this is not for me. So I went and dominated
first class cricket score score almost a thousand runs just
to get back in the team. So I had, I had,
I had a motive, you know, I was really motivated
to get back to the team. And when I did,
I just never looked back. And you know, I went
on to play over one hundred Test matches, so I'm like,
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I'm not coming back over the team. So I was
like more consistent than ever before, you know, but sometimes
it takes a little thing to get that wake up call.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I was just pretty much like taking it for granted
and just care free at the start, and then it's
when you get dropped and then your eyes open to know.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
The interesting thing here for me anyway, Chris Guile, is
that even known as a swash back when cricketer, that's
the way you roll. That's the way you will be
remembered in the game. So when you went through these changes,
plainly you didn't leave behind the important part of what
you do. Your essence remained.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, without a doubt. The aggressiveness was actually there,
but it's also about being mindful of you know, how
to score heavily or to back round or when you're
playing the Test matches as well when you play a
Test match as well, so you have to you have
to know how to balance it and you have to
learn to add you have to add up as quickly
as possibly as well. That was key because sometimes you
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play a test match, you play, you play a fest series,
then straight into one day sometimes the one day then
into Test matches. So you have to learn the balance
and the craft after that of your opponents as well
under condition as very as quickly as possible. So you know,
the quickly you can learn those things, the better you
carry in. I mean, my career was a slow start,
but I built gradually as I've go on and go
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want to go on, you know, but it's always always
about learning quickly and keep that aggressiveness and that same
you know, which we actually spoke about earlier.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm not entirely sure hey managed to maintain that aggression
right the way through Test cricket. Look, two triple centuries.
That's extraordinary. Is that possibly your biggest in the achievement
you're most proud of in cricket.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Absolutely, that's a great achievement and that goes into like,
you know, when I've been out of the team, you know,
back for hours, so it's not like it happened overnight
to get a trip of centry. The preparation, you know,
when I was out of the team is like you
train like that you're playing a game. So I would
be back in back for like two hours and then
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I take a break and then going back for another
tours and back for another two hours, so it's not
like it happened overnight.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
While I get the triple centry, I prepare for that.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So when they're back for two hours, you have like
six ballers balling to you for tours.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Just imagine how many balls you'll hit in.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Who I was six ballers balling you don't get just
pitch for that and then it just happened naturally. You
know we're in the game. That that was also, you know,
is what you prepare for. You know you'll get the results,
you know, so you can achieve it. So the two
tools of percentages is one of my best achievements. We
didn't my hitting career for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Let's take you back to twenty twelve. We became the
first man to hit a sex off the opening ball
of a Test match. Now that's some balls. Just tell
us a little bit about that decision and what happened
on that day.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I'm telling you what was the attention geez man?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You know what when I was walking on, you know,
Ghazi into the ball at the time was making his
debby as well, you know, but I was remember what,
I was actually opening the bat and I was walking
out and do my normal routine before a roof to
the middle.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Then I see, you know, taking his is run up.
I thought they were joking. I thought I thought it
was a joke, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
So anyway, I'm walking out and and then I realized,
you know, you see us, I'm likely kidding me, and
Spin's going to bawl the new ball. To me, I
was like no way. And he's making his debut and
I'm like no way, and said the first ball, I'm
going to attack him. And that's that's why, that's the
reason why the first ball for a sick because I
was like kind of upsetting away because the spinner is
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actually bullying and that a firstball, so and he's making
his deadroom, so like you know what, bam bam, and
then I jumped him.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Get a few bundies, but I get a quick twenty.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
But eventually I'm his first victim in Test cricket because
he got me out at the end as well. So yeah,
that's that's the reason why the first ball for a
sick wonder.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
What has head space was like after that? Like he returned,
well didn't he? He got your wicket only a few
hours later?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean the first overhere and long off and
long on. It a test much, you know, I'm like,
come on, man, it's a Test cricket for the feelers in.
But eventually got out out of the boundary. So I
did hit him for another six, you know, But I
mean it was a great initiative. You know, you get
a big one for his first Test cricket as well.
(10:19):
He's in history book as well, even the first pullet
to be hit for a six in Test cricket.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So yeah, we board's actually openers.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Chris Gayle is a guesst of course, coming out for
the Hot Spring spas tea twenty black clash and association
with Wolfbrook eighteen tive January next year. But not only
have you scored a part of Runs and Taste cricket,
he scored a double sentry in a One Day International
as well. Tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, the double stantry in the World Cup as well,
that was against New Zealand. You know, there was a
close call earlier, probably when I was in like seven
in the teens.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
They refer they went to the third umpire COLUMPI was
like not out.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So from that moment, I'm like listening, I'm just going
to start to smash it, smash it, smash it all
over the plug. And then eventually I gainst some momentum
and just start to smash it all over the park
as well. You know, you get to the hundred and
then you know, you get to one fifty, and then
you then realize, you know, the US finishing finishing up,
and then I just started smashing and then get a
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double center as well.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I got out. I got out of the last ball.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I say, because I wanted to hit like what eighteen
six or seventeen sixties, So I said, give.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Me the strike.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I want to hit the last boat for a six,
and I got out of the last one. So yeah,
and the first double centine a World Cup. That's something
you know, you know as a great achievement. And then
Martin get Martin hook to came and get a double
center against us in a couple of games times as well.
So yeah, it was just one of those moments which
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you're going to all this cherish for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Have you got a bunny, Chris, like a bowler that
basically you picked on someone that rolled up to the
pop increase going out out here? We got again? Have
you do?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Was it? I wouldn't say I have a bunny like
that to the ns feel, because I mean I don't
all all bowlers, you know, I mean pretty much I
take them to the cleaners, you know, whether your sport
spin or your boat pace.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
But I didn't really have a bunny.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's like more so a team where you know you
will always started score runs against, like New Zealand is
one of those teams unfortunately, where you know I used
to score a lot of runs against New Zealand in alls,
you know, you know, I was just pretty much always
dominant against New Zealand and South Africa and even in
England as well, so those three teams, you know, and Zimbabwe.
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So when you feel like you're struggling, you want to
play against those teams because you say, hey, I'm pretty
much just say lucky. Are you just you like facing
these bowlers to get some runs. But I wouldn't say
I have a bunny bowler like that for sure, But
no one would want to go like left um spinner
to me as well, because they say I eat left
ums spin up for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
So yeah, some of them cry like a video.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But a lot of bowlers, you know, you know, very
very fearful of the universe boss without the doubt, and
you know, so up until now, I try to think
like that.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
What goes to their mind? You know?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And I know and I can't see the fear in them.
Even before games, you know, Boulas used to say, hey,
take it easy, to take it easy, to take it this.
I'm talking big proper bowler.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It's not not talk you know, makesh take it easy
because the team meeting used to be like for two hours.
When when you hear some of the stories like oh
we're going to try and you know, get crystal out.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It was just funny to listen to those things as well.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
And that's the that's the force I had, you know,
you know, within the sport as well. So they would
have to tell their story and they would have to
tell the truth and then you can get a lot
of stories from that.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Curs of you always had this immense self confidence. The
swaggy you have is off the hook, like you have
it on the park, you have it off the part too.
Is this something that you've always carried.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, the mind is so powerful, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I think that's that's the will power of the mind,
you know, for me always works.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
If you notice, most time you.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Will see me on the field, Uh no, not much
of a smile underneath the helmet, but boom, I hated
for a six, and I just like, there's like nothing happened,
you know, and then I'm pretty much shitsical and I'm
just waiting for another one, you know. So it's not
like I'm like hide a ball for a six and
I'm in their face and like, yeah, you know take that, no, no, no,
you know, I keep it respectful, you know, at the
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same time while while being dominant, to keep it respectful
at the same time as well, because if I'm a
fastball and I'm battering to do that to me, oh man,
you have no idea what I'll be doing.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
You know, as a fastball.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But yeah, so I just try and keep it that
in that calmness as well, and I don't want to
get too excited. Sometime when you get too excited, you
know you'll get into it, get into a lot of
problem it can you know, give your wikit away as well,
because that happens sometimes as well. We get carried away
as batters when it just go and bam bam, bam,
bam bam and eventually get out. But you know, you
try to see a bit of company to to learn
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to curve the emotions, you know when when you are
on top as well, and try to you know, when you're.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Dominating the bullers.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So that's me the mind put the mind for me
is a powerful and you know, the strength not only
not that's the talent, but the mind.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
It's just the will pop up.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
The mind is less phenomenal come from my side, and
I don't think anyone could have actually, you know, dominate
my mind that I tried to get in my mind
to throw me off my game.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And finally, Chris Cayland, thanks so much for your time.
Looking forward to to seeing you in full action when
it comes to the Black Clash. Let's finish with this though,
what now, what happens to Chris Guile? Now in kind
of retirement. I suppose you'd say, where are you going?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I thought I was going to stop playing cricket, and
you say, we can't play cricket forever, and damn band.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
So many legend leagues coming up now, so we are
more likely going to play cricket forever. Now we're going
to play up plan.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So we are six years old, you're going to push
them up in a wheelchair to go and have a sway?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Are you're going to push me back off the field?
You know?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But yeah, I mean I majoring life, you know, time
prove for life as well, and I'm doing some business
here and there, starting my own and doing my own
rum as well, starting my own rum, you know, the Jamaica.
I whant to see Jamaica. We'll talk about music in
rum and entertainment. So you know, I have my brand
coming out as well, so you know, have some things
coming on and do some things in the pipeline which
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I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
And just so you know, trying to give back to
the game.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
You know whenever I can as well, you know, occasionally
appearance in the commentary Boots.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I'm not a talk I don't really.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Like to talk much, but I can be a good
mentor to the to the game, Like I know how
to read people, especially you know, sports people, and I
can you know, help them in that regards as well.
So yeah, that's pretty much me and we would just
take it into spread.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Awesome Chris Gail, thanks so much for your time. Looking
forward to you at the Black Clash. I hope you've
got a six pack when you're sixty in your wheelchair,
and do us a favor bring us a bottle of
your rum.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Will you cannot give you that? Okay?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
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