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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldegrave
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Good evening and welcome. This is sports Talk on News
Talk ZV. It's the second of August, coming up seven
after seven on Friday night. My name is Darcy Waltergrove.
We're talking sport from now through till eight plenty of
it as well, and no, not entirely the Olympic Games
all the way. That is tempting after what happened last night,
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what an hour of rowing? Yikes, criky. Even David meets
CEO of rowing in z is going to join us
from Paris to kick the program off, and then after
that I need to know more about rowing from you.
This is a ridiculous sport in the fact that it
constantly produces champion performances. What is it about this sport
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that appeals to New Zealanders so much? What is it
about the sport that appeals to the New Zealand viewing
audience so much? What does it for you when you're
watching that? Is it the potential for victory? Is it
the possibility of gold? Is it the history of the sport?
Is it the simplicity of the sport? Is it the
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hardest nails nature of it. I'm really interested to know
about you and rowing. We'll talk a bit about regular
Olympics as well. Am we going to catch up with
oh mate, Brandy Alexander of course Format Warrior. As we
look towards tonight's game, it's at eight o'clock up against
the Eels. Still not quite must win care territory, but
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very very close. It's a home game. It is at
the constantly sold out Mount Smart Stadium from eight to
right the way through to whenever the final whistle blows.
Looking forward to that one, and we have Greg Alexander
on to talk about that. We finished the program off
with Michael Burgess. This time we'll get burg Regular listeners
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of the program will be well aware that we've had
real trouble getting birds the last few nights, but this
time we will. We will rope them in and he'll
give us an Olympic report, and let's know what's happening
up and overnight at the thirty third games. Before we
do any of that, though, let's do this.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Sport Today.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Add in Sport Today playing they we're all still peeking
over the rollers combined Evans last night a boxed set
of ten from Paris. The woman's at double scudders lead
the way. Brook Francis reveling in the fact that both
athletes are recent mums, adding extra boomed to the occasion.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, I think that's incredibly special. You know, so many
people are parents, and you know raising turns isn't easy
and it takes a village, and we've had that whole
village behind us this whole way and only makes it
that much more special.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
There was two of them, right, We can't not hear
from a teammate Lucy Sports, if.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
We're being true to ourselves, it was the dream. Rowing
is too hard to not have the big dream we
see before. We actually haven't won a race since since
we had the kids. So yeah, it's been a lot
of underlying.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Belief, outrageous and talking that. Rico Bearman ripped it apart
in the last chance bermex qualifying this morning, making the
most of his starting position. He won well and secured
a semi final spot.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Happy.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
I mean I started off the day not so good,
nervous and yeah, first games and huge.
Speaker 7 (03:52):
Crowds, so yeah, super happy to pull it back and
get through to tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Dag and away from the Olympics and back to one
of my problem areas, my addiction to the Warriors. The
Wires are still holding on to finals hopes broken skiptle
who Harris is into help sees coach Andrew Webster.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
He's cut some clutch for some young players. You're showing
them some ideas. It's a great sounding board for me.
I lean on him, talk to him and as now
that he's sort of over the pain with his wrist
from the operation, he'll start taking more of a role
of a probably mentoring role of anything.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
What's sports today? We are now on Sports Talk by
CEO of a rowing end Z that David meets from Paris. David,
I can see you smile from a heremte. We're talking
eighteen thousand killer meters. What a time, you bloke. Some
bloe casses are having.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Oh what a brilliant day yesterday. It's the sort of
thing dreams are made of.
Speaker 9 (04:47):
And you know, to have a gold, a bronze and
a silver all happening with them and there just so brilliant.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think, David, we're celebrating the three medals, and rightly sober,
I think we need to look at the means pair
that didn't get in, but they got to an A final.
I don't think people can quite grasp how how good
that is to be there in the first place.
Speaker 9 (05:09):
It is so incredibly difficult to get into an A
final and these are the elite of the elite of
their sport. And and once you're in an A final,
it is really you know, you've you've just got to
have everything go perfectly for you, which it didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But what was the afterwards? I mean, how did that work?
Because the pair I'm sure would have been devastated but
must be still very proud.
Speaker 10 (05:35):
Oh.
Speaker 9 (05:36):
The one thing that with all of these athletes, you know,
for them to walk off the water and thinking we've
given it all, you cannot ask for anything more than that.
And look at the you know, the Robbie and Jordan
they rode a brilliant race to a get into the
A final, and actually they rode a really good race
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in the A final.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And that is that. But there's still more to come.
We're going to put them way. By the way we're
talking about Robie Manson and Jordan Parry, that's very rude.
I should should have mentioned their name and what they've
achieved in the double skulls onward from now are worth rowing.
The hopes are now pinned on a couple more athletes,
one of course, who is defending her gold medal, and
a young man up on the rise. So a lot
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to look forward to.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
A lot to look forward to.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
We start today with.
Speaker 9 (06:26):
Double you know, and it's going to be exciting to
see what they are able to deliver in their final
and then we've got Tom and Emma coming up tomorrow
with the singles, and so we've got a lot of
exciting races ahead of us.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Let's talk about tonight's entertainment with the lightweight double skull
with Shannon Cox and Jackie Kittle. What do they bring,
what are their chances?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Where do they sit? And I expect being with this team,
they would have been lifted so much by what happened
last night, But well what about these two athletes.
Speaker 9 (07:00):
Yeah, well, look, the momentum the team has been and
the excitement has just been electric and and that's.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
An important part for a campaign.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
You know, Jackie and Shannon, they have done all of
the hard work that they could possibly do and they're
in with a chance with a really, really good race today?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
What do they bring to the boat that makes them
maybe stand out or makes them, in your eyes, look
like they might be able to do something extraordinary.
Speaker 9 (07:33):
The grit and the sinassity of those two is just
absolutely brilliant to see. And the one thing, no matter
where or how their race plays out, you'll absolutely know
they have given every possible thing.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Where does the favoritism lie in this? Is it defined?
Are we looking at some athletes that really should be
winning this and I know that gets blown out of
the water just look at Romani and what happened to them.
But where does the favoritism sit? Do you believe?
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Well, the lightweight rutings are really challenging events at the
bakes in that you could throw a blanket over all
six boats in the final, and you know, it is
such a competitive and highly really really exciting race. And
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so I think anyone going in that absolute favorites this
is dame to go with that sort of beef.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Interesting in what actually what defines the light weight what's
the difference there between regulars and the lightish ones, because
athletes aren't exactly light weight, now are they, David?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yeah, So there's there's a kind of a weight restriction.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
They're not allowed not loud above and and that means
of you know, kind of in their preparation things like
diets getting themselves to weight for racing day. There's a
lot of science that goes into that, and the preparation
for them is really really meticulous, so you know, they
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go into that with a kind of very much all
the preparation that has been done.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Is it a keenly contested category for New Zealand roll?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yes, yes, yes it is.
Speaker 9 (09:20):
But it's also the last time this event will be
held at the Olympics, so this is yeah, so the
paras Olympics will be the last time for the lightweights
will race as an event.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Where does it move to from there? They just get
rid of it and shorten the whole schedule. Is that
how it works?
Speaker 9 (09:38):
No, So for the LA Olympics there will be the
introduction of coast coastal rowing and that that will replace
the existing lightweight program in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And New Zealand's history and lightweight because we've we've had
rollers before that have done well on that. I'm looking
back to when when was involved in the storm. Peter Taylor,
how's my memory hanging here.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (10:05):
Yeah, and if we've had a really proud history and
you know the lightweight lightweight boats and that's also the
bit with a lot of excitement and anticipation with Shannon
and Jackie today.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Looking ahead to the two single scullars. Obviously this is
this is rock star stuff. How are they seated? What's
the preparation being like? Has it been smooth?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yes, it has.
Speaker 9 (10:30):
Kind of the build up for that has been really
brilliant and meticulous.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Both Emma and Tom.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
I don't think you could look both of them are
going in this, yeah, with a really really good mindset
and knowing and having done all the hard work and
yards that they need to do.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
As far as rowing in New Zealand and being the
ce oh as you are, David Meets, What is it
that attracts people to the sport and what is with
the success? Because it is phenomenal and it has been
for a long long time. Have you got something in
the lake at cut a pile?
Speaker 10 (11:01):
It is.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
It is one of the toughest sports you could do.
Speaker 9 (11:04):
And I think the discipline, nacity, the grit, the drive
of these athletes is just something spectacular to behold. And
I think it is, and they just say, you're kind
of an amazing group of people that just reflect the
very very best of New Zealanders.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And there's something about New Zealanders fighting tooth and nail
in an extraordinarily tough sport that probably appeals to the psyche,
doesn't it? David?
Speaker 10 (11:30):
Absolutely?
Speaker 9 (11:31):
And you know, kind of a small nation taking on
the really big growing nations and doing incredibly well with
that is just something that inspires them all.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
With Emma and her defense, I know in talking to
Georgie Earl and the Eviswindel yesterday on the program that
after the one that initial gold, the pressure went off
in their second crack. Are you feeling that with Emma Twiggers?
You've got to calm a calm sense about her at
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the moment.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
She is in just such a brilliant headspace and she
knows experience, experienced Olympian, she knows what she needs to
do and she's been really really focused on doing that.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And the expectation and the energy around Tom where does
that sit now? I mean like he's he's new to
the to the single skulls, but he's not new to
the sport. He knows what it's like doesn't e when
it comes to Olympic competition.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Oh absolutely, And he's up against some.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
Of the kind of the you know, kind of the
THEBC stars of World World Rowing and single skulls, and
again Tom has just really laser focused on bringing his
best to the to the final.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And I'm sure he carries a lot of hopes and
he carries quite the legacy too, doesn't he with single skullers?
Does he even consider that or not?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
She sure does.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
But he also just absorbs the pressure and that's also
part of what makes him and such a gifted and
talented athlete.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And let's not forget he picked up a goal in
the h which is one of the highlights of Tokyo
as well. So the guy knows what Hey look really
looking forward to it. It's been a stand up even
though you can't, but it's been a stand up, especially
that hour. Yes, that are really looking forward to the
rest of the competition. And David meets the CEO of
you Zaid and Ryan. Thank you so much for sparing
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us some of your time.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
You enjoy yourself, Okay, look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
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Speaker 2 (13:36):
Talks, it be it Sports Talk on News Talks, it
be David Meat said, joining us there out of Paris
is the CEO of rowing end Z. What a spectacular
evening it was, and I'm sure all of you sports
fans out there thoroughly enjoyed your evening sat in front
of the TV watching that unexpected Yes, I don't think
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any of us would have said, you know what, we've
definitely got our medal here. There was a small chance
there might have been a medal, but to meddle three times,
right if you will, the bronze, a silver and a
gold quite something else. And i'd seriously I've been talking
about are the men's doubles before when we started that conversation,
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they got six. It was not ideal, but in order
to qualify and to get into an a final in
the Olympic Games in rowing, which is such a keenly
contested sport globally, I think that deserves recognition. And I
don't think that you can take anything away from those
two athletes. No, they didn't medal, but they got right
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up there. They got in the top six and that
is phenomenal in an Olympic game. So watching it last night,
and I know this is an off used phrase and
I'm sorry to keep stealing it, but a shell interesting
that when New Zealanders are in the water going backwards,
sitting on their bum they tendency to win medals. It's
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quite extraordinary. Almost a locker, isn't it. We do very
very well on backside based water sports going the wrong way,
they some go forward. Lissa Charington does it very very well.
I'm sitting there watching that last night. I am really
really excited, predominantly because there were in New Zealand, isn't it?
And I don't think i'd watch rowing if there wasn't
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a New Zealand or involved. And that goes for all sports. Okay,
that's not entirely fair. I love motorsport. There's not a
lot of kiwis involved in that. There are, but you
know Formula one there should be.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
But there isn't.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But what pools you in when it comes to rowing,
nothing really happens. I don't think that the final detail
of the stroke and the rhythm and the pacing and
the cadence, whatever you'd like to call it, is apparent
to anybody, the long, skinny thing, the camera doesn't move.
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It's quite an austere viewing experience. So tell me you
watched Rolling last night. You got a huge kick and
a huge thrill aside the fact that it was New
Zealand winning. Is there anything else in that sport that
really appeals and why a New Zealand is so good?
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What is it? We talked to Georgie Earl last night
and a lot of that was based Hey, the program
that cut of Pudle is extraordinary. That's why this team
does so well? Is it a part of the fact
that it is essentially it's almost a man alone sport?
It sits with that concept around New Zealanders. Let teams
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of eight and four them the like as well. But
you're very isolated, don't you? And it's tough? Is that
what it is? Is that what appeals to the New
Zealand psyche. I'd really like to know what is it
about Rowing? Why are we so good? Why do you
watch it? What's good? And if you want to ring
up and just congratulate, by all means, please do because
that was one crazy Olympic hour last night. Makes you
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proud to be a Kiwis Newstalk's heb lines are open
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's seven twenty three.
I'm falling in maybe before the first time. Baby, it's.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
You blood.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Seventy six Sports Talk here on Newstalks Here b o
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty explain rowing extraordinarily simple.
Why does New Zealand excel? Why do you watch it?
It's purely the fact that it's kiwi In a black singer,
right that said, otherwise you wouldn't watch it, would you?
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And another run of sports And I'm trying to rip
the legs out from underneath the sport because it's got
a great history. It has provided us with so much
joy and pride over the years, right the way back
to the eighth in the seventies with the black single,
so it was iconic, and then when that was repeated
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in Japan three years ago, what a time that was.
That's part of our psyche rowing. But I don't think
any of us would watch it if there wasn't a
New Zealander involved with There are other sports. We would
watch a game of rugby of out New Zealand, but
watch a game of league without New Zealand's there's a
number of other sports you'd watch without New Zealanders involved,
But I don't think any of us would watch rowing.
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It's not that entertaining, is it really? It's one shot?
Ain't they changed the shot a wee bit? I spoke,
but what are you doing? You sit in there and
you go on. It's hardly dynamic. Tell me. And incidentally,
thanks very much for the text to I was pronouncing
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mister Mats's name incorrectly. Apparently it's David Mates, not David Meats.
I wasn't warned about that, but thank you very much
for letting win right. I think we need to jump
across to Adam Cooper now. He's our man on the
spot as we look to Olympic News. Oh and he's
waving at me now and giving me the thumbs up.
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Take it away.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
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Round two of the men's Olympic golf events underway. Ryan
Fox has four strokes back ahead of his second round.
Het is off at about quarter past nine tonight. Japan's
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Jack O'Gill and Tom Walsh begin their shot put campaigns
from six am tomorrow. With qualifying, these NaNs on water
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after the rowing teammates bag three medals last night, Jackie
Kittle and Shannon Cox contest the lightweight double skulls final
just after ten. The men's forty nine er sailing medal
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another go at completion tonight's while windsurfer Josh Armatt is
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Harbor is through to the women's quarter finals.
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It already into the semis.
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Speaker 2 (21:16):
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Speaker 2 (21:45):
Favor and.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
Prayer.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I quite watch Motor Sport even will say cars going
round around in circles? How is that dynamic and interesting?
Watch cricket possibly the most soporific sport there is. But
I watch other teams play cricket and I watch other
people race cars. There aren't New Zealanders. But I tell
you right now, if there wasn't a New Zealand involved,
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there's no way I'd watch rowing. It just doesn't jump
out and scream at you, does it. I'm not trying
to belittle the sport. This is a personal opinion.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
It's all it is.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I thought i'd share it with you because I've got
the platform too. But I still get super excited. And
I was jumping up and down and yelling yesterday because
New Zealand were succeeding of that. I was extraordinarily proud Alan.
Speaker 11 (22:41):
Yes, evening does it? It is slightly difficult. I think
you would watch rowing even if we weren't present. And
I think the reasons we're so involved and do well
eded where We're an island country at the bottom of
the world, surrounded by water, and so there's holes water.
We do a lot of water sports down here one
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way or the other.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
We can't swim, though, can we how does that work? Awful?
Speaker 11 (23:11):
No, I think you're a little overrated. I think that
we're touching on it. We're on the crest of breaking
through on us. Okay, we don't succeed a lot in it,
but we're certainly up there to qualify and meet the standards.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, we've got some outstanding swimmers. I think the issue
Ellen that we've got with swimming is for cility base.
That's that's all it is. I mean, you've got Lewis
Claibert had to leave Wellington because they keep taking his
pool off them. And then you look at Australia and
the access they've got to pools and facilities and they
are extraordinary. So I think that that would help if
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we actually had pools, wouldn't it.
Speaker 11 (23:52):
Well, it's pools and putting money into the individual competitors.
But what we do we do well. And but across
the water sports we especially do well, from rowing, kayaking, windsurfing,
and then you're into the sailing, we do well right
across the board.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
Then.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But I think that sailing is sailing is great to
watch and if you've been watching any of the foiling,
it's been incredible, and most of those sports you mentioned
are good to watch for me. As the rowing it
just nothing happens. And I've got you all know, Adhd,
I get awfully impatient and when there's in the zentland
of there, I got focused. But when there is and
I'm like, is this going in a line? Is that gross? Unfair? Ellen?
Speaker 11 (24:37):
I think when the rowing is close and their match,
it does put you on the edge of your seat
and you have up and watch it. When it's in
close quarters and neck and neck. I define anybody that
doesn't sit on the edge of the seat watch it.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, I know, and Allen, thanks very much for your
call and thanks for defending it again. It's just my
opinion that I wouldn't be on the edge of my
seat if it was England against Africa. I'm sorry, England
against America, English, the United States of America. Spit it out, Son,
there's a lot of no skin in the game. I
don't care, at least with cricket or motorsport. Maybe it's
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the understanding thing. It just seems to be more want dynamic.
Let's go to the text line now, Andrew writes Darcy,
I'd rather watch rowing than rugby. At least they keep
moving and there's not three thousand rules that no one understands.
That's very relevant. Andrew, thanks very much for that, Darcy.
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I'd love rowing if instead of it being a straight
drag race that to grab round marks it to be
chaos alls knocking people out. It'll be a gladiator sports. Steve,
you want to get on to Kayak Cross which is
coming up over the next few days, and it's got
thin butcher and he's going to be on the breakfast
program tomorrow on the All Sport Breakfast, and that is brutal.
That's gladiatory. There's no doubt, not a great deal of rules.
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I don't think hit anyone in the face with your paddle,
but beyond that, anything goes. So watch that one another
text that says Piney, See, it doesn't matter what I say.
If it's really unpalatable and nasty, I can just say
it was Piney, it wasn't me, because so many people
think I'm Jason pine which is not a bad thing.
He's a talented individual. Piney. You mentioned grit and hardship
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playing into the New Zealand Sack. I think it's more
about how much good rowing water New Zealand has growing
up in Sydney. I never heard of high school rowing.
I moved to New Zealand and it's widely popular with
the Mardy Cup and the breeding ground of New Zealand rollers.
Something is also tough. But New Zealand not successful, so
the site thing may not transfer and that thanks for
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the text goes back to what I was saying around
the lack of something dominance. Even though we ride into
our water sport, we should be just sam facilities, they're
not there and it's very difficult when you don't have
the facilities in the investment to actually achieve. So good
point made about that it's not the cheapest sport in
the world either, which is od isn't it that people
buy into a big time? And one last text I
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Darcy talking of f one, which I mentioned before. I'd
love you Maray about what red Bull is going to
do with Lawson Hamous. We're really interested in what's happened
now because if you haven't caught up with it, red
Bull are falling apart. We know the've lost Adrian Newey,
one of the most fantastic designers to ever walk the earth,
(27:29):
and now we've lost this sporting director Jonathan Wheatley. He's
been at red Ball since six working with Sebastian Vethel
and the like. He's joining with Audi in twenty twenty
six with the old Ferrari team boss Mattia Bonotto, and
I wonder if that further rips the team to bits
with Whitley going, he's very influential, and whether Whittley, because
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I think there's a spare seed at Audi ends up
taking Liam Lawson with him. This is better than the
on field action. This is news Talk ZB and over that,
let's talk some Lee up the Wise Darcy, which are
now on Sports Talk by Greg Brandy Alexander as we
take a look at well, Greg, welcome to the show.
(28:11):
Are we at must win? Now? For the Warriors? I
think teaching I've said this now for a couple of
weeks between must win and mathematical chants? Where do we
sit on that scale?
Speaker 10 (28:21):
And welcome good Ida.
Speaker 12 (28:23):
So I guess the fact that the Warriors one of
two teams on the odd point, it could either come
play into the favor of the Warriors or not or not.
So I'm guessing they don't have to worry the differential
and fall and against really doesn't matter. It's just whether
they win enough games to get themselves in the eight.
And I guess, sitting on twenty one points, they need
to get thirty one. I know they've got the buying
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round that they do have the buying round twenty seven
if I remember correctly, that would mean that I wouldn't
be wasting any time. You know, you are aligned too
much on what happens around you if you lose again, and.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
That's the last thing the team needs. But let's be
frank about this. From what you've seen so far in
the season, and we know there's been issues with the
back line, we know there's been troubled there. Have this
team got enough to actually convert those close losses to wins?
Do you think they've got it within them, the coaching
staff and the players and some of the ones that
are returning Greek Well.
Speaker 10 (29:17):
I think they do.
Speaker 12 (29:18):
You know, there's no reason why, and I know you
know when you start talking about the end of season,
and you know, if a team needs to go on
a run of five or possibly six wins, can they
do that? Because it hasn't been done all seasons, So
there's that question mark, can they do something that they
haven't done all year. Their best players need to find
their best form and Sean Johnson's return. We have not
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seen the best of Sean because of injury, and if
there's other things involved in that, I will go back
to last year and the reason the Warrior has played
top four footy is because Sean Johnson had his best
season of his illustrious career. He has had a great career,
but I don't think in all those years prior to
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last year he was as good as what he was.
So if he's not that good this year, that's you know,
and he's spent a lot of time off the field.
That's a big reason why the Warriors are in the
position therein I think. So Sean Johnson, can he deliver
over the last five rounds?
Speaker 10 (30:18):
I hope.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
So.
Speaker 12 (30:19):
I'd love to see Sean get back to what he
showed us even at the start of the year. You know,
And I know the Warriors lost their first couple, but
I saw enough in Sean to think, well, he's got
another year or two easy left in him, but injuries
have dictated him not playing much footy. I still think
it hangs on his shoulders. I know a lot of
other things have to work but if Sean can find
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something out of the last month and bit and they
win the five games, well.
Speaker 10 (30:43):
But the Warriors are back.
Speaker 12 (30:45):
I give them a big chance to get their way
through the bottom part of the eight and maybe could
they play a Grand final qualify that they could if
those key players find their best form.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Of key players, and you mentioned plainly Sean Johnson, there's
an interesting case where well, we haven't got one of
our halves involved who's been fantastic and to mighty Martin.
But that's cool because channel Harris t. Visa and Shawn
Johnson are and that I looked good six and seven,
two of us a shit. He came back and eventually
found himself at full back, and that was of course
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injury related, and he played the house down. I don't
think any doubt about that. He was phenomenal. But and
Nicol Klik starts back now, so Roger finds himself not
at center but on the wing, juggling those two roles
and the transferred how difficult, how capable.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
We spoke about Roger extensively coming into the game against
the Raiders a couple of weeks ago, where he was
picked to play on the wing and sort of getting
your head around at I was a bit shocked when
I first saw the team when it came out on
Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 10 (31:48):
Roger on the wing right, well, you know, But then.
Speaker 12 (31:50):
I thought about it and I thought, well, Roger can
probably make more impact from the wing than he can
at center. There's no stopping Roger getting involved in the game,
doesn't matter where he's playing. Then he scored that try
just before halftime against the Raiders. I said in commentary, well,
he's not scoring that if he's playing on the wing.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
Roger's a special player. I understand that.
Speaker 12 (32:09):
You know the reasons why Chans is the fullback, and
you know, when you look at the two, it's not
as if Chance has played some great footy and he
did last year and he has this year. So it's
not as if you're not picking Roger because you've got
a blake that's doing a great job. But still Chance
just can't do things that Roger can do. So you
know that's why I've and we've been down this road before.
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I right before the season started, I said, well, I've
got to play with Roger at fullback, find another spot
for Chance, because Roger.
Speaker 10 (32:39):
Is your best fullback. However, you know it hasn't been
that case.
Speaker 12 (32:42):
You know, he's had a couple of starts at fullback
played very good, but Chans has been outstanding as well.
So it's it's not like you're you know, you're missing
out because the chance is there, but it's just Roger
can do those little special things that he probably can't
do anywhere else from the field, but playing fullback.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Great down to Greg Alexander, excuse me stumble, stunte What
joins the program is talking the Warriors taking on the
Eels tonight. Look with Roger playing on the wing and
coming out of the center position, if there's a glaring
hole on the side, And even though these guys have
got potential, you've got Alilatawa and Maula Graham Tulfer in
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the three and four. That's a lot on relatively inexperienced players.
I thought maybe Roger might get it right in there,
considering the lack of experience. But it says a lot
to me that well that rather have Roger on the outside,
they can see more from there.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
But these centers, yeah, I don't see a huge problem there,
and I know they're inexperience, but I think Ali's been
playing some good footy and Graham Taufa looked pretty good
to me, So I don't have a big problem with that.
That's not going to be the difference between the two sides,
you know. I'm comfortable with what they're going with. And
if Roger involves himself as as much as we think
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he needs to, I think there won't be a huge.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
Amount of problems with the outside backs, you know.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
I think we need to flip forward to the middles
pretty quick and just go through how important they are.
And Fanilla Blake found some form last week like that again, Well,
he lays the platform for everything else to work off.
The back on ade Egan needs to find a little
bit more than he has. He's sort of hit a
couple of flat spots through the year, Wade and God,
he never sees to stay on his feet for an
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eighty minute PUROD, so he's always down injured.
Speaker 10 (34:23):
Something's going on.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
But if Mitch, Barnett and Adam can lay the platform,
I think it's all set for those players that we've
just spoken about, the key men, to make the most
of it.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well, there's consistency in there, and the according finally back
from injury, doing what he does Kate well, so moving
into that role after an origin time and of course
locking is Dylan Walker, Ale Tavanga Alasima up off the
bench and pretty lussk force in there as well. So
even though the back line's been torn to bits, the
packs looked pretty consistent of recent times. But can they
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maintain that and not lose their concentration at key moments
which we've seen sadly right the way through the year.
Speaker 10 (35:03):
And that is the key.
Speaker 12 (35:04):
It's key for all all the sides that have, you know,
sitting in this precarious position for the final month and
a half of the premiership. They all find themselves asking
the same questions. Can we play out the eighty minutes?
Can we defend our errors? Can we maintain our focus
that for that period? Can we not make selling mistakes?
Can we take advantage of field position when we've given
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it all those questions that have the team sitting where
they are, Warriors sitting twelfth and you need something special.
Speaker 10 (35:35):
I still think they've got the players capable of doing it, Darcy.
Speaker 12 (35:38):
It's just whether all those things can fall into place
and their big their big guns play their best foot.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
If they do, I'm seeing a run coming up.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Another sold out game, a home game for the Warriors,
kicks off eight o'clock tonight, Warriors twelfth taking on the
Eels sixteenth. As always, mister Alexander, thanks very much of
your time and expertise. You have a great weekend.
Speaker 10 (35:59):
Good to talk to us.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Blue need for the DMO.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
We've got the breakdown on sports talkl O wait, news talk.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
That was Gregor Alexander looking hereto. This game gets underway
in about twelve minutes time out. Next Michael Burgess joins
us from Paris to let our head at look ahead
at tonight and tomorrow morning at the Olympic Games, the
thirty third Olympic Games. This is news Talk ZIB good evening.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
If you've seen now be proud.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
What do you think the yump fu was beautiful? Think
I heard you come in news talksb if it's live
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coverage right the way through the evening and into the morning.
Huge crew covering that those events for us. So if
you're keen get amongst Michael Burgess is going to be
joining us at shortly. In fact, Michael Burgess is right
here right now. I tell you what, mate, you are
harder to get hold of than I don't even know. Michael.
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How are you? Thanks for joining us? How's Paris very well?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Yeah, it's going great, Darcy. It's as I think we
talked about last time. It's brilliant to be here, fantastic city.
I think it's going to be one of the best
Olympics in the last few decades. But also, you know,
the medals have started to flow, which is always a
wonderful thing to be part of. When you start to
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see Kiwis on the podium, the.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Energy in the area from these New Zealanders a speciy
that hour last night, out time, yesterday morning Your Time spectacular.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Oh it was incredible, wasn't it. And I think you've
seen this in previous games too. Once there is a
medal or two, it kind of inspires everyone else. And
I think anyone watching what unfolded at their own yesterday
morning here and it's yesterday night Your Time couldn't help
but be moved.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
It was.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
I thought there were wonderful stories in all three medals,
and it was just another reminder of how incredible this
New Zealand rowing program is, because, okay, rowing may not
be the most global sport, but there are still some
big nations that put a lot of money into it,
I e. Great Britain, I United States, I E. Germany
and a lot of other europe remaining a lot of
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other European countries.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
You know, they put a lot into it, and the
fact that.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
We can match or beat these countries again and again
is quite incredible.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
What's coming up overnight? What are you looking forward to
the most?
Speaker 6 (38:57):
I'm looking forward to see zoe Hobbs. I have to
say Zoey Hobbs on the track. She's in her heat
in a couple of hours from now, because we all
know if she should have been in Tokyo, that was
a major mistake by the selectors, et cetera. So it's
great to see she is here. Tom Walsh, Jack O'Gill
in the shot put qualifying.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Plenty of intrigued.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
About those two, and of course there's another couple of
metal chances today. You would think the woman's lightweight double
sculls are in action about twelve twenty local time, so
that's about ten twenty pm your time, and they are
really a really decent chance and as we talked about,
they'll be inspired by what happened yesterday. And of course
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Dylan Smidt, who everyone remembers from Tokyo, the real I
guess the middle. No one expected unforgettable stuff from him
and the trampoline he is on in the final, assuming
he makes the final at around six pm local time,
and I would think he is like trampoline is always
so unpredictable to call, but he is definitely a chance
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for a repeat podium.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Just found out from the CEO of Venzen Rowing, David Mates,
that the lightweight skulls is gone for La. That's it.
This is the last time it appears. And we've had
a reasonable history, says all of tms NTRI of Olympics.
Isn't it? Things just don't last.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
It's always a shame though when they get rid of
these events.
Speaker 11 (40:20):
You wonder how the athletes.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Feel it happened.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Yeah, with the lightweight men, I think the last what
their last one was in London at a certain class
I remember, because then they just gave that away. And
of course the best and worst example from our point
of view is Dame Lisa Carrington. You know, we'd normally
be talking about her going for a fourth straight K
one two hundred, but politics have gotten the way and
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there's no more K one two hundred, so that that. Yeah,
things like that. It's it's a bit ridiculous and it's
a bit unfortunate when they're shoehorning at other events, which
personally I think are crazy, like I don't know, three
and three basketball.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
And then they're getting rid of more traditional events.
Speaker 10 (41:01):
Don't get me started.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Day Well, I could probably do ten years of talk
on what should or shouldn't be at Olympic Games. So
I'm not going there. I'm celebrating for the here and now.
Exactly what they what are the locals like? Are they
starting to ease into this now? Are they still angry?
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Yeah, they're definitely what I consensus the real pride. I
never forget watching the opening ceremony. I wasn't at the river,
it was too hard to get there, but just watching
it at a bar and a big TV with a
whole lot of Frenchies, and they were you know, the
cheering and the clapping and then afterwards walking through the
streets and the singing, and so they must be so
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proud because this has just been a spectacular games, spectacular venues.
So as we talked about dark there was a lot
of negativity and resentment about aspects before the games, which
it always is, and I'm sure that's lingering, but I
also think they can't help but be so impressed by
what their city and what their nation has done. And
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there's certainly been lovely to us. They're so so friendly,
so polite, so helpful. All those stereotypes about Parisians, I
just don't think they're true.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I'm good, I'm glad to hear it, and I think
it's the same waves the Olympic Games. We moan about
the whole thing up until it starts. Some goes, wow,
look how fast they are, and everything stops. Hey, good
on your mate, Thanks very much. Michael Burgess from n
zme in Zid Herald, a writer, multi media journalist over
there uring the time of his life by the sounds
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of things. That's it from one. As I said, gold
Sports got all of the Olympics up overnight and right
the way through the next week, get amongst wires, getting
underway shortly up against the eels now the sold out
mount smart so they can get the job done. Catch
you tomorrow morning at seven.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
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