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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldergrave
from News Talk Zed.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be right here it goes. This is Sports Talk. My
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name is Darcy Waldergrave. It's Friday night, right seven after
seven and seven seconds A level when the fools like
that on thifteenth to December twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Oh crikey, you have just realized it's not a great day?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Friday? At Thirteenth's? Take me this logs a click to
it this long?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You think i'd know it?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I smashed my leg and my knees one thousand pieces
when I was seventeen, wearing all black on Friday the thirteenth,
But no, do you.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Think I learned? Do you think I learned?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
So I didn't?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Silly? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
What a lovely day it is coming up today. We're
going to talk sport, and plenty of it as well,
I might add looking forward looking ahead to the last
Test match of.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
The season in New Zealand makes me.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Want to cry, but there it is. At least we've
got five days of Test cricket to go. Four days
of Test cricket today. We might get three days of
Test cricket to go. The way things are going. It's
happening in Hamilton. It's the party at Tim Southy's house there.
Let's face it, that's what it is. This is a
tribute to Tim because the result doesn't count for anything, right, nothing,
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not a sausage so much so as the English they're
starting to chop and change their team. They care either,
So it'll be a party atmosphere. We'll talk about the
the end of the line for Tim Southy a shortly
with formenys Old cricket captain Ken Rutherford and talk about
well young, well he will won't he? We know this?
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Where he bats, how he's does it matter? I'm trying
to work out the relevance of this match and you
can help me with that afterwards. On our eight hundred
eighty ten eighty. It's anomally, it's a it doesn't matter,
it's weird. Calm my soul, please, oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. It can text ninety two ninety two.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
That is z B z B.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
What is the point toward the end of the program
we talk football. If you don't know, there is a
rather flash team going on at the moment in the
A League AKFC. They don't appear to want to be beaten.
They don't appear to be able to be beaten. Finally
considered a goal last week, but they're playing again this weekend.
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They're playing over at Melbourne and there's no reason why
they keep on winning. What's the magic, what's the pressure?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
What happens next?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I know a bloke who knows the answers to all
those questions. You should do hiss the coach, Steve Karker.
He joins us later on in the piece as well
to talk about the extraordinary start to the season for AKFC.
In between all of that, it's you eight hundred and
eighty ten eighteen nineteen nineti ZBZB Standard techs charge does apply?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Should you like to engage?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And before we climb into any of that.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Let's get amongst this.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And in sports today, still with football three on the
bounce for the way Inex. Their season started under downer,
but the women have rallied, beating two top four sides
of the last two rounds. Emma Main says belief is
high in the team ahead of tonight's Melbourne victory encounter.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
The team's feeling really confident, especially going into a game
against one of the teams that's higher up on the table.
Just being able to score a few goals, get a
few goals under our belt and get those wines in
the three points has been amazing for morale.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Jit triathlete Hannah Berry is home and ready to en
her season with a bang at this weekend's I am
in seventy point three World Championship event in Topol.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Really nice to come back and be able to finish
the season off here and just spend a bit of
time at home before this race training in my usual environment.
So it's been really nice.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Works us out.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Pots is in with the series one, ain't there? Rotating
some players to the third and final exchange Hamilton starting tomorrow.
Interesting description around Potts. Massive engine doesn't mean a big motor,
does it.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Potts, He's got a massive engine on him. He can
go all day. He bowls a lot of overs. Not
just that he's a very, very skilful bowler. He's someone
who again is another versatile bowler who you can use
as a new ball, you can use with the short
ball plan that we go to because he's so.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Fit, ah, so fit, So massive engine isn't a big motor.
Just grab cleared that one up and Lydia co finished
the last season victorious and hopes to replicate that result
this weekend at the mixed teams Grant Thoughton Invitational Tournament
in Florida. Her playing partner Jason days Sun stole this
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so last year.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
He ran onto the prize ceremony on the eighteenth, which
was really cool and obviously I don't have kids, so
to see that kind of special moment with family was
really memorable.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And that's sports today.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
We're joined now on the show by former only Zelander
Cricket to Test captain Keen Ruther for good evening, Ken,
how are you? You're looking forward to the last Test
of the season and still a little confused that it
is the last Test of our home season?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Oh mate, it's incredible, isn't it? Disappointed?
Speaker 8 (05:50):
I guess for us to people who love their Test
cred in February March and you look forward to it
normally historically I guess traditionally at at that time of
the year, but all that time of the season. But look,
it's it's been a good, good series to date, like
it's the whiteball stuff from here on and for our summer.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So what do you mean good series to date, as
the results haven't been From a New Zealand perspective, the
games have lasted a very short amount of time.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Is at the.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Speed of the games?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Why is it a good series to day?
Speaker 8 (06:18):
Inn well, a good series of you if you love
your cricket and you want to see test matches move
move quickly, as it's a tend to do these days.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
You couldn't really blink, could you.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
And a lot of a lot of the seasons have
played to date, they've moved forward very very fast. New
Zealand have been below par. I think your expectations after
the schlank And tour were pretty negative. They got very
very positive after the Indian to walk dars He the
last two test mentions of Proba was.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Down to earth.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
But I've enjoyed watching the cricket. I particularly enjoyed watching
the lockster Harry brook bat. He's had a lot of luck,
to be fair. Sometimes Anniversity you see the characters of
players really stand out, and there's been been some good
performances by New Zealand players individually, but collectively we just
haven't been there, have we?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Is that a hangover from the Indian series, because that
was groundbreaking that won't happen again. That's an absolute stunning.
We'll look back at that series and go wow, so
pleased to be around to watch that. Is there a
sense that was all left out there, that's got nothing left.
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Look only only the these days, the psychologists and those
people close to the team who really look inwardly against
Darcy had at the players and how they performed on
that particular occasion and particularly a time can tell us
in retrospect maybe. I mean, I was probably a shocked
surprises as many cricket followers of New Zealand, how well
we went into you about two and a half months ago.
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But it was great. We deserve to win. Winning the
Tyson India is an important thing to do. We managed
to do that. We put their betters under pressure, which
is important. We were allowed them to score at times,
but we got them out between that, between the boundaries
and importantly against India. They're better players and it didn't
play very well. They've seen below par and expectations coming here.
I mean the bookmakers told us before the first year
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Starsy that it was a pretty much an even serious
against things that it should be. Should it be an
even serious but England have out played us, and I
think we'll look back, particularly our top all of batting,
and say, well, we didn't quite get things right. I
mean im not being a smartie after the event. I
mean I was talking to a couple of notable cricketing
people in New Zealand before the series against England. I said,
the hell can you leave Will Young out? He's the
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player of the tournent in there. He's just seems mature, superbly,
can put in anywhere in the top four or five.
He's almost the first Betty to play in the serious
against England. Look his contribution the first two tests to
change the course of the series and the results.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Maybe not by leaving him out. I think we're behind
the April.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Ken Rutherford joins us and the decision about when to
retire or drop one player and pick another player up.
That's going to be an internal battle for the coach
and captain for as long as it comes. And I
think Gary Stead's been very loyal, very faithful to his players.
He's given them plenty of opportunity to climb out of
a hole. Is he gone too far in this case?
Speaker 8 (09:05):
I think when you looked at him into Tim South
here obviously, Darcy.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I think now I'm talking about talking about good Devin
Conway in some of the top order before Will Young
comes and we'll go to SOUTHI in and it mate,
calm down.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
Yeah, okay, yeah, it's a fair cool I mean Conway,
It's look, his performance was all that guy over the
last maybe eighteen months probably crept up on me as
much as as.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Any other cricket follower.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
It wasn't til you really looked into the nuts and
bolts of his performances that you realized he serves in
close to twenty than thirty over the last eighteen months.
Another player whose stands when when I had a bit
of a look about a month ago, was staggeringly poor
was Tom Blundle. Of course, he's come out of the
last Test and got one hundred all bit in a
situation where there probably wasn't a lot of pressure away
because we were going to lose the Test mansion in
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the series.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Anyway.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Yeah, Conway. I think Conway is a really good example.
I mean, when when Devin first came on South Africa,
I played a fair amount of attention to him because
my mate say there said how well he could play,
And I mean watching in a couple of punk as
shield manches for Wellington at the BA reference he really
play the way play for in particularly startling. But I
think it's a good example of a player who's committed
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us all pretty much now to teach twenty cricket and
over the last twelve to eighty months, and he's probably
seen a slight change and his technique and that he's
very much more of a white ball player technically speaking
than a red bull player. I think you said that
more and more these days of the modern day players,
it's very very hard and very very seldom you get
a player who can play across all three four months
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of the game equally well. And something has to give,
and I think in Devin's technique and test Man's creer
something has given.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Will Young coming in because Devin's off to be a daddy,
which is super cool, they'll probably drop him and opening
he hasn't got the best record when it comes to us.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I think, is it's this ideal to do that?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Let's face it came Williamson essentially isn't opening, he has
been for quite some time. But Crawel to move in there.
But maybe will needs a bit of space to let
his hands go. Well, where do they do they put
the guy King?
Speaker 8 (11:08):
No, I think it'll be a straight swap. I mean,
I think it was one one in the series, Darcy
the selector. I think it's at one sleeper in Sam
Wells plus the coaching staff. I mean they might look
at a different leaves one to one in the series
and try and pick a team. Obviously to win a series.
I think this time around been the last and I'm
not sort of cheapening this third Test at Hamilton from
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new perspective though I was trying to win it. But
I think there's a bit of fighter compley about selection.
I don't think they'll look to disturb the sort of
middle order. Obviously they won't move em some for three
that won't happen, But so I think it'll be a
straight swap conway for for young young will move in
what you're saying about stats again, you know, I was
the nerdish the other day and looked a few of
those stands and I read that one as well about Wells'
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ability at the top of the order is probably not
as good as his records, not as good as at
three or four or else were but I don't know
he actually made a comment after the Indian series, Darcy,
I don't know if you've picked up on it, where
he said to.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
One meter the member of the media.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
In the modern day game, these days, you've got to
be prepared to anywhere in the top six in the
Test matchion, why actually thought about that for a minute,
And he's probably right.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I mean the old.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
Days of Righty with his leather buckled pads walking out there,
you know, with his inside thighpairs didn't quite fit right
because courses Erica's veins now, you know, and you know
he took it on the body for four hours before
he got a boundary. I mean, just so, just so
that the new ball could be dented, the effects of
it could be dented in the middle order could cross.
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Those days have gone now because pretty much from one
to six you could have bet the same, don't you.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
It's about look at ignorance. You've got Ducket, I got
like Ducket.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
And Cruelly for that matter, who traditionally when you look
at them the middle order place, they should betting five
or six in the order because they both way to
heabsolute at least smash it don't they. So I think
technically wise, it's not as important now to sort of
see off the new ball. It's almost equally as important
now to smash the new ball. So if Young goes
out of there and tristplations and be effective as a
Lara Duckett here, you might well be successful.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You're obviously walking over the road at the moment. Keen
focus them what you're doing. You get run over. I
don't want the death of you on my On my books.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
They really liked, they really like my last copy.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Does you talked about Saudi before and mist of us
not to talk about that. The players want to play
for Pride plainly after losing this series, But there won't
be a man out there playing that won't want to
play for Tim Sowvey, with the contribution he's had over
the years, that this needs to be his test and
I'd expect they'd stand up based purely on that.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yet, Yeah, I think you're right. I think I know
you're right.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
He holds a certain marna within the side and has
done probably from the first time he walked into Test side.
He's on side in two thousand and eight. I think
it was I mean, just think about that for a moment.
That's a long time ago? Is that that's sixteen d
years ago, nearly seventeen. I think Brendon McCallum was still
playing for New Zealand. There wasn't. I'm sure he was,
Obviously he was a lots changed in New Zealand. Cricket
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seen a lot of change New Zealand as a company
since and Tim's been a consistent.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Member of it.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
But we won't remember him for his last six months
and performance, will remember him for his whole career, and
I think that's important to remember. He's a guy who
deserves to be remember as one of our greats, as
record will stand the test of time, as average has
only recently slipped over that he runs per wicket. Anything
under thirty runs per wicket is considered great, So he
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is pretty much great in terms of international cricket, second
albeit to Richard Hadley.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Sir Richard, Tim will be remember as one of our
all time great.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
Players, no doubt about that. Just saying to some of
the other day Darcy, I love to see his record.
I haven't seen. I'm sure the stats wizards out there
will know it. A record with Twentil at the other
end compared to what it has been the last couple
of years. Without trend Bold the other end, it probably
hasn't quite been the same. We know his pace has
been down, we know he hasn't been quite as effective,
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and that's probably as much to do with his agent,
to be fair, as much of the fact that bolt
hasn't been at the other end.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
But see the tripic player and bowler who can tomk
a few at the end.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
I mean he's nearly got one hundred six since Hasney,
unbelievable and he's taken a few catches at second and
third slip day. He's been a really really fine PlayerUp
in New Zealand for sixteen odd years.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
A hunting packs those fast bawlers, so you can understand
the bolt not there. It would be like taking a
finger or a limb off. If you look back though
at sim Saudi, how would you described his effect with
the ball? Describe what he does with that nut and
how he goes about his business.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
Well, I think his key moment has always been as
a bowler on testa ministry with a new ball. He's
particularly when he was able to get the ball through
itself those mid one thirties up towards one forty. He
probably never really cracked one forty consistently, did he. But
Sidney was consistent around the one thirty five mark. And
just anyone can swing the ball early on, particularly in
New Zealand conditions away from the right hand back to
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the slips. It's a considerable task to overcome for an
opening batsman, particularly if you're from the sub continent.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
To be frank and Tim was able.
Speaker 8 (16:01):
To get the ball up there on a length and
there was often a drivable length and plazling the play
through the vacant cover fuel and nick it to.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
The slips or the keeper. So he was a handful.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
And then of course you had Trent from the other
end who was left arm over swinging back into the
right hand. So I think you use the word complimented
each other on hunting packs and those sorts of terms,
and you spot on that's the way it went, and
they were. They were considerable forces for Uselin. Crecket probably
along with the Headley Chatfield combination of the mid to
late eighties was probably our best opian bowl in combination.
Speaker 9 (16:31):
Forget the refs call, you make the call on eight
sports talk on your home of Sports News Talks be.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Forman telling test skipper King Rutherford. There's twenty three minutes
after seven Sports Talk care on News Talk ZB Friday night.
This is a curious fixture.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
For a number of reasons.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Then, like most cricket fans, I'll settle in and watch
it because I know no better and I can justify
it because it's my Job's one of those strange matches
where the result means nothing. There is no relevancy in
the result, no Test Championship points to be competed for.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
The series has lost.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
There's not another Test series for New Zealand for how
many months?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Five? Six months?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Long time. No one's really jostling for any position. Anything
that happens, as far as a score or an impressive
performance will pile into the effort. It won't mean anything.
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I feel mean saying that Blundell century didn't mean anything
and he's got the figure won't be in his quick
info by lad in the piece. You got a century,
but it got dropped. First ball in the game was
as good as dead, so it didn't matter. They don't
add that. But I don't think he's scored a ton
of That's great, please for him. Nice guy didn't mean anything.
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I did it after we've been richly humiliated and embarrassed
by the tourists for our second test running.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
So you go into this match, you look at it and.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Wait, I don't know what I want out of this.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I don't know what the driver is to.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Watch this game? What do I want?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
What do I need? What a New Zealand want?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
What do the black Caps want when they look back
at this test? Whatever the result is, how do they market?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
What are their KP eyes?
Speaker 9 (18:49):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
What do they need to know to make it work?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Because you've got you've got well young He's probably going
to open a position he doesn't do very well though,
interesting words from Ken Rutherford there before saying, hey, look
anywhere in the top six you've got.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
About of bat.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It doesn't matter where you are, how you do it,
I don't know. Brutalize the opposition or not.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Maybe he can bash his way through the English and
give himself some form of confidence, but going.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Into what was an extensa so far away, he doesn't
count for anything.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Mitt Santana might play, Smith might play not really sure
around that, don't wear Blundle's going to play. I mean
he will play? Does he play way down the end?
Is he it's about seven instead of six. I'm just
struggling with relevance for this game. I would like to
see some good scores, but they won't count for anything
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in the widest skink will They was all pajama cricket
up after this, and it sounds a little insulting calling
it pajama cricket. That's the best way to describe short
vision cricket because it is wam bam, thank you ma'am
over in a day or in some cases a couple
of hours, and it's highly entertaining it. They get me wrong,
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but Test cricket stands by its own but this seems
strange halfway through a season that's not even there, a
game that has no bearing on anything in test cricket.
What do you want to see? How do the black
Caps go about this game? What do that we know
what they're going to do because they're if shown over
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the years under Gary Stead that they are very conservative team,
ain't going to do anything crazy, right, They're not. I
don't think they do any crazy selections. I'll be pre
standard and I'll go about there and they do their
business and so on and so forth. I just maybe
they should have done one England's going to do and
chuck a whole of the yoh.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Who's in there?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And just see it?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
So you're playing, you're playing, you're playing. See what like
Test cricket ever go? Or is it all about saying
goodbye to Tim Southey in a classy way? I think
that said, isn't it? This Test is Tim Sauvie's farewell
party and not someone else? Tell me I'm wrong. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty eighteen eighty. This is Sports Talk
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Speaker 3 (21:13):
Hello for Christmas.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
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Speaker 9 (21:20):
Have your say on eighty Sports Talk on your home
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Speaker 6 (21:26):
It be be beginning to look love like Christmas everywhere
you go?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Who is this? EDGs Middleton? I don't know who's booblo?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Where is he from? Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
So I find it interesting when we listen to Northern
Hemisphere Christmas songs just Lovely the Lovely Boys, it's looking
a lot like Christmas Blue Sky and Bud the Cow.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
What do you know about what Christmas looks like? It
tremendously horrid.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Over there, right, now. But it is a lovely song.
Oh there's news talks, eb simpthing he one, let's get
to the phones. What is this Test match all about?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Kyle? What does this mean? Why are we watching it?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Mate?
Speaker 10 (22:14):
We're watching it for one reason. Tom Blundell, you know,
he has been a bit of a critiiculum. He scored
one hundred and you know what you said, the hundreds
worth nothing, But it was to him in.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
The widest scheme of things though. You know what I'm saying,
I really like and that's great.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
Tom needed that and he got it. Good on.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Maybe he gets it scores another one and in a
possisi where it's not absolutely hopeless, and that would stand
for a lot more.
Speaker 10 (22:43):
All right, yes, and and this next Test match, let's
it's hopefully send Tim Tim off with the Bodle send off.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
That's got to be the primary drive, doesn't it.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
He's done lots in his own cricket, so yep, let's
give him.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
A good scend off and and he's been given a
lot of stick because he's gone tape it away a
bit and form one thing about yeah, well you know
this happens to all of us.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Something about the years you know we keep ticking them off.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Terrible, terrible stud it's actually great luck what I gotta.
I respect Tim Southey for a lot of what he's done,
without a doubt. We've got questions, marks about the way
he throws as well away around.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
He's there at a bar, He's not there to bat.
What really impressed me in the last couple of years
about Tim Soudy was when the whole thing blew up
in his face over in Sri Lanka. He listened, he
stood and went I'm gone, and he walked and I
thought that was fantastic and got a commending for that.
That shows, yeah, a need for the team. It's not
selfish too, it's a great move.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
It means to be a Kiwi to be said that, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
So I'm not I'm not ripping on Blundle.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I'm just saying that in the wider scheme of things,
if he hadn't done it when it mattered, we would
have been great.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But it coind didn't because it was.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Ice called a test sent I'd dine on it for
the rest of my short and miserable life. And why
are you watching this, Kevin.
Speaker 11 (24:13):
Good event?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
How are you I'm very very well.
Speaker 11 (24:16):
Hey, I believe it's for me. It's nothing. I think
there's more just this test, this final test mats vision
using in England. There's more of a pride saver, if
I can say it that way, a pride senter. It
turns out it's farewell. But to be honest, I'm not
sure there will be I bet there will be a
few fair few test cricket fans will be more interested.
(24:38):
What's going on at the one at one of Gamma
episode around about the same time tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
You're probably right.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think that that it goes so far like wishing
them off and Da da da. But people want some
form of jeopandy. They want something on a game. There's
nothing on this.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
Because at the end of the I'm more as I said,
I'm more interested. And what's the rest of it is
the Border Gaviscar test series. I think that's way more interesting. Man,
what's going on with Dan and Hamilton, Wenington and post
shits so far.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's a shame because it's the only one seting was
it'd be nice it was more, but it's it's a
farewell for Tim Southy and that in itself was not
a bad thing, but it doesn't really.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Make you want to watch it.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Does it.
Speaker 11 (25:22):
I said, it'll be the little bit, the the rest
of the border, Gavasca Tissaries or will be way more interested,
especially at wollong Gamer. And then you've got the MCG
and then you're got the SCG.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I'd love the way you say Willo and gabber too,
at the way you add the whole lot to it.
That's magnificence. Twenty five minutes away from eight, Darcy, huge
concerns on our depth. Who's coming through with Jamison? Who
are an ex batsman Jeremy?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Maybe this TESTI moment I need to throw a few
wild cuds in there because the result didn't matter. I
don't know, Darcy. What we need to do is Sackstead
as a coach and offer a sizeable check to b
mac Mars isn't happy. It's okay, Mars, deep breath, It's fine.
It's the weekend now, Christmas around the corner. Steed's been great.
Not everyone's cup of tea, but under him we've had
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some stunning results. You will never be forgotten for that
seven thirty five coming up next to Kurraker talking about
coaches he's gotten going and the AKFC. We talk to
him next about seven on the Bounce.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
This is the sports talk on Darcy Auto Grow.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
It's very good evening to Steve Kuraker. Good evening, very good,
looking forward to another huge weekend. As I expect, you
are as well away going to Melbourne, and we know
you've had a lot of home games right now, so
it's better to be a bit of enthusiasm around the
side to actually take you all off shore and carry
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on with that bonding and that success. Yeah, that's the plan.
Speaker 12 (27:03):
Obviously we've had one trip to Sydney before and one
to Wellington, so we've played two away games, but this
will be our third one, first time in Melbourne, coming
up against the Melbourne City team who you know put
four past Brisbane last week, so you know we have
to be on our game, I think for the for them,
they're a good team. I think the conditions also supposed
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to be around thirty two degrees, so it's as warm
conditions for us, so we need to make sure we're
prepared for everything.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
How do you train for that?
Speaker 12 (27:31):
We've actually the boys have been wearing their wet jackets
in the hot weather to try to climatize. We've also
had them going to the sauna to get that sort
of heat element that they need, so they prepared for
that stinging heat. Yeah, so we've we've done a few
little things that we could try and do to help
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them climatize for that kind of weather.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
How much is that kind of weather influence what happens
in the game? I speak for the Aussies over there
probably can deal with a little better than we can
in Auckland. But what effect does it have overall on
the playing of the game over that ninety plus minutes.
Speaker 12 (28:06):
Yeah, I think when when it's hot weather conditions like that,
it's difficult to press the way you know, we have
been pressing in the cooler conditions, so we have to
maybe pick and choose when we press, and we press
together and it just can just weigh down really the conditions.
But it's going to be hot for them as well,
because I think it's been cool in Melbourne and then
it's coming hotter by the weekend. So you know, it's
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also the travel that you have to take in consideration
sometimes with the heat conditions. It's a bit of everything.
So it's just about managing the players, trying to get
the best out of them for that game.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Travel, Steve is always part of being a New Zealand
team and any Australian franchise. It's one of those you
just have to deal with. You can't not You've address
that to all the end of the season. Could you
be playing away a lot more? Is there any way
you can you can counter that or benefit from that travel?
Speaker 12 (28:57):
Well, we've looked at some games. Obviously to Melbourne is
a straight flight, but there are games that, like for instance,
Central Co so we play on the twenty eighth, we're
going to leave two days before that one because of
you know, you have one flight to see me and
then you've got another hour and a half on the bus.
So you know, when there's a little bit longer it's
a Newcastle similar there's two and a half hours on
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the bus. Perth obviously is a long flight. It's a
two stop, it's a stopover flight. So we'll go I
think two or three days before to Perth. So we've
sort of looked at all the games and we've worked
out when we should travel. You know, whether it's one
or two days beforehand, just to give the boys the
best best chance they can to recover and adapt and
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get ready for the game the next day or two
days out.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Are you a record driven coach or player, even Steve
when you look at the numbers that are in front
of you, because another one looming here, is that playing
anything into what you're doing? Do you think about that much?
Speaker 12 (29:57):
It does a little bit, because you know the boys
are going so well, you want to each week give
them some kind of target to keep hitting. So obviously,
if we can can get to win this weekend seven
in a row, that's an a league record from the
start of a season, I think. So you know, we
broke the defensive record last week with not conceding for
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all well almost almost full six games, but we conceded
towards the end there, but that was amazing as well.
So we've achieved something really special already in a short
term and you know that's probably our next goal. If
we can get seven in a row, then that's another
little record that the boys have ticked off, which is
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which is a great start to a season.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Is it almost a relief that you have been scored against?
And now the whole clean sheet thing can disappear to
worry about it and more people like me, Well, we
don't bring it up every half an hour.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, I think because we've conceded it now we can
say that.
Speaker 12 (30:52):
But you know, realistically, it'd be nice to have kept
another clean sheet. We were so close to going six games,
but yeah, you know that happens. We're going to con
see goals. It's it was the reaction I saw after
that was good, you know, to see out the game,
which was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
So yeah, so we need to be prepared.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
These games that you've played, I think the first couple
bill that's a great start. Now it's the third, then
there's a fourth. Okay, there's something consistent going here.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
This is no longer fluke.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And I know people have said, hey, you've been playing
home games, but the draw is not your problem. You
just play where you can play, and you play whatever
the fields you do. But now you've got this record.
Now you're clear and present danger. So teams like Melbourne
know what they've got, they know what's coming. How does
that effect your build up? How does that affect the
way teams play you? Because there's a shadow now advancing
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ahead of you. Guys, when you turn up.
Speaker 12 (31:46):
I think maybe at the start of the season there's
probably little bit of a shock. They weren't sure how
we were going to go at the start, and you know,
obviously we've built momentum. We've won six in a row.
I think now obviously, you know a lot of the
teams would be aware of how we're going and you
know they want to be the team to stop us really,
so you know that's motivation for us as well to
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continue that not you know, not let them, you know,
hunt us down where we want to hunt them. You know,
we we prepare like every game.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
You know.
Speaker 12 (32:16):
Obviously defensively we need to be strong. Melbourne City have
got some real strengths in attack. The two foreign boys
kN and Cohen have you know, they scored two goals,
won two goals on the weekend and one the other
goal and you know, dangerous players. So we really have
to defend really well and with the ball.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
We you know, we spoke about this. We want to
be better.
Speaker 12 (32:38):
We want to know, create more chances. You know, against Wellington,
I think we created twenty twenty chances twenty shots, so
that that's pretty good. But you know we want to
be more clinical and run a goal.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
You talk about the defense of mechanics and what you
need to achieve there. With a team like Melbourne, it's
not really defending in the box more is it more
strangling in the middle and stopping the feed of the ball.
So it's not like yet the ambulance and at the
bottom of the cliff or I got that one wrong.
Speaker 12 (33:06):
Yeah, no, I think that's a general I think you know,
we want to we want to stay nice and compact
and aggressive and we want to try and stop the
ball getting to obviously the gold mouth. We've we've been
doing that really well. We've been giving up one or
two really good chances, you know, each game, so you know,
we've got to be aware of that. We've sometimes Alex
has made some fantastic saves, he got us out of
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trouble and on the game against Wellington, obviously the goal
obviously came from one of our mistakes and you know
we couldn't stop that one.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So yeah, obviously, if we can.
Speaker 12 (33:37):
You know, largely keep them outside the box, obviously we're
doing a fantastic job. But it doesn't work always that way.
So you have to defend the box as well. Once
the ball comes in, you know, you could try try
and stop crosses once it goes into the box. We've
got some big boys in there as well that can
defend cross as well, and you just have to be,
you know, really tied in the box and not give
them them opportunities.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
How's the health of your lads? How are we looking
in the sick base Steve?
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (34:01):
I think you know Cam Howison, he's probably the one
that you know will be out. He's he's done his calf,
not so much sick. He's out for five or six weeks,
so you know, other than that, everyone seems to be okay.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
At the moment, it.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Still counts as the sick bay. However the injury came,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
That's the way it still works.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
And lastly, just on yourself, Steve, you couldn't have asked
for a better start when you look into what you're
doing and presuming there's a fair amount of self criticism,
otherwise you wouldn't be in the position you're in.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
What are you happy with in your role?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
And where do you think you need to lift From
a gaffer's point of view, I think you know.
Speaker 12 (34:41):
It doesn't matter if you're winning or losing, you know,
people have got different ideas on football and how it
should be played. But you know, the obviously the coach,
and that's this is the style I want to play.
And you know, we want to be aggressive defensively, we
create and score goals. You know, our supporters have been
amazing so far. They've been really getting behind the boys
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and being that twelfth man. As you saw was a
full house again Wellington. You know, they've been amazing, the supporters,
So we want to make them happy and we want
to work hard for them.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And now come on, Steve, what about yourself? What about yourself?
What do you need to do better? As a coach?
You can be that precise, caun't you.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Listen, things are going nice at the moment.
Speaker 12 (35:24):
There's also I think it's all about it's not so
much about myself as well. We're talking about you know,
I've got a really good coaching group, good good backup
support for me, so you know, they're obviously doing a
fantastic job as well. There's obviously, you know things that
you know, we look at each game that maybe we
should have done this throughout the game, that could have
made this change or something like that. So we're quite
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critical about ourselves as well, and if we've made the
right decisions when we made subs and if you know
we can do better there. But yeah, you know, like
I said, you know things are going nicely at the moment,
so I don't want to give too much away to
other people.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
You know, that's to give the credit to everyone else.
And you just sit in the background and join us
on the show. It's a pleasure, mister Carraker. Thanks very
much for your time. I'm looking forward for some and
to coach Barbes in the game against Melbourne City. You
can give it for us, can't you.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
You never know who knows your right call?
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Speaker 2 (36:27):
We can't do. Steve Cayker, their coach of Auckland f C,
who are.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
On a tear of that. There is no doubt and
there have been.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Words exchanged. Why you've hardly played away from home? You
wait till the proverbia. It's the f animal.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
See how good you are there? What kind of starts
this weekend?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Isn't it? That?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Will we nudge at the end there? Steve the.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Coach banter for himself and chief you Gean Calotaliano last week.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Good I think that this derby has been I say organic,
to a degree that it appears to have built over
the weeks. It's not that organic because there's only two
New Zealand teams in the A leagues. Of course there's
going to be some kind of something between them, right,
But it's developing nicely. And the fact is a bit
(37:23):
of poke, a bit a niggle, but elbowing between the coaches.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
That just adds a bit more, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Loving it two different games of football to watch over
there in both Phoenix and AKAFC are playing looking.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Forward to it. He didn't want to talk about himself today.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Gave me the perfect opportunity to say I'm a genius,
but I talked about the players, which is probably a
wise move.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
It's ten to eight.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
This is a sports stock on news Talk ZB. Last
chance for you to tell me why are we watching
this test tomorrow? What was the driving force?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
What is the point? Tell me?
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Got a few texts around that nineteen nineteen ZBZB and
I'm engaged.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
To give us a call. I eight hundred eighty ten
eighty this is news Talk, ZED.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Good Lord didn't Coca Cola and Venus blows.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Bruce Springsteen, I send it pause.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I know that's a commonly held misconstition. It is I
I'm glad you could tell me.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
So.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
It's not the fact that he looks like a bottle
of Cokes and nothing to do with it, right, Okay?
Speaker 10 (38:43):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
So it's derived from the the Dutch bloat Sat Nicholas's
one center class. Yeah, center class, who wore the red
pointy hair and stuff. Why would you think that Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Was by.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I'm just trying to answer your questions. You know, I've
never vest here that you good inventions about winding it up,
for producing the program as millicys. Just run through a
few texts for you now around this game. I don't
seem to od be saying why I'll be watching it,
But there is, by and large, most games you watched
there was something on it. There was a purpose behind it.
(39:23):
There is no purpose behind this game unless you're like
Matt you said they're playing for respectability. Does two to
one sounds a lot better than three zip, especially at home? Yes,
(39:44):
it doesn't make you want to leap up in the
morning and prepare a large black pudding breakfast, which I do,
yes and watch it. You're playing for respectability, awesome, They're
playing for Tim souty. They're playing to send them out
on a high, and I think with that driving them
(40:06):
and in fact they have been blown off the park
by England. Maybe they're not playing for respectability, they're playing
to not be further embarrassed by the guests. But I
think with Tim coming to the end of his career
and it has been an incredible career, it really has
(40:27):
got to respect the bloke, that that'd be enough to
push New Zealand over the line, he said, reaching for
his gambling apps to see what money's being offered on
this one has test creckt I'll watch it. I can't
help myself on a fall, but not really wishing everyone
the best of black for them, its thought it was
a great opportunity here to maybe just drag a couple
(40:49):
of guys in. Check a test cap at them, see
what they can do, go on some fun, you know,
find out what's happening. Experienced test cricket yourself, because there's
no more Test cricket until twenty eighty seven. Well maybe
not that far away, but it's been such a long
time because white cricket that generates more income.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Sad but true.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Last couple of texts for you all. Tim is going
to have a crap party when the Poms smash us
all over the park. I think Steve uplifting possibly the
truth and maybe they the English will celebrate Tim Southey's
loss by smashing them all over the parks. Here you go,
(41:31):
It pays you back for all the time you've humiliated us.
Take that off to your retirement.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Din.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Here's your gold watch. Are you allowed to say palm?
Or has that been canceled as well? It's been canceled too,
isn't it?
Speaker 3 (41:41):
I lose track?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
We need to step up and win this Test match,
writes Jeremy Park. The southis stuff, huge concerns over our
depth and who's coming through.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Will not learn anything.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
About that over this test?
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Are we?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
This is the same guys.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
My fan, I'll still watch it.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
You can't help myself.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
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