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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Wildergrave
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be he also wants him.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
To go down the inside.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Paris is trying to do that. Lawson has to go
almost off the track, but he hangs this one out
for a bit longer.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Paris is off the track and they're still going well.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
So well, and Lawson stays their heads.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Is he serious?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We will give you each take on. Yeah, but a
rackus going on. Liam Lawson.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
He made a mark when he turned up in Formula
one last year when he was deputizing for the busted
up Ricardo. Now he's got the drive for six six
Grand Prix and a couple of sprint races as well.
He's really causing a stir. Were joined now by Greg Murphy,
New Zealand Motorsport icon. I can call him now, Hey,
welcome to the show mate.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Are you at the racetrack?
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Good? I dass so I am. Thank you just said
to Campton Downs today you'll.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Be taking keen interest in Formula one.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I think a lot of New Zealander are Now we've
got our tenth driver in there. Liam Lawson's he's shaking
things up a little bit, and I suppose that a
little video of him flipping the bird is something that
has really piqued the interest of a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Are the aggression there? Should he apologize for that?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, it's a PC world we live in, mate, which
is a real shame. So you know, you go and
do something like that, which is great, it's great for
the excitement of the sport, but it controversy all the stuff,
all the things we need to stay interested in things
these days. And then someone or he obviously maybe thought
(01:47):
that they wouldn't see him do it. You know, he's going, oh,
maybe it wasn't a good thing to do, and I
was it good for the.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Brand and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
And next minute you're apologizing. I'm sure he hasn't changed
his thoughts around why he did it. I thought it
was fantastic. It's like there was a bit of a
riff going on there during the race between two of them.
Sergio didn't hold back on what he thought of Liam
called him an idiot. So I think giving him this
middle figure is ony only justification, perfect justification.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
How would you an ambrose go on the day and age?
Do you think, well, you.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Know, I'd be fine because I don't care about social
media and that respect, and I'm not worried about what
people's opinions are.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
I didn't worry back then and I don't care now.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
People can say whatever they like, preferred if they've got
an opinion to come up and sat to my face
and then hide behind it on a computer screen.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
But unfortunately that's the way it's done these days. You know. Yeah,
social media has.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Caused caused no end of controversy around its own own
self for allowing allowing things to be said. I suppose
that shouldn't be and then people's opinions. Yeah, they're taking
putting weight behind the wrong the wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Mate, He's doing a great job.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
He's doing everything that he needs to do liam to
give the team no option but to promote him to
that top step. And Pereza's doing everything you possibly can to.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Justify that decision.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I mean, someone of it's been enough one that long
to be knocked out in Q one in that car
when your teammates, you know, on the front row and
then go and park your car over your grid box
and then act like you didn't do it. I mean,
that's someone who's long overdue for either retiring or replacement,
(03:37):
certainly from a team like Red Bull. So he's under
pressure and it's pretty obvious, obvious really that Red Bull
need to make the shift now. And I think even
Christian Horners maybe run out of patience with it as well.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
So Liam just keep doing what he's doing, You'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Hopefully it's storming a tea cup. It'll be forgotten soon.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I think there's a lot of the Mexican nationals who
get really upset the fact Checko's gone. You know, Checko's
not very happy, so they were piling into them.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I understand where it comes from.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Are they really?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I have not as a I don't pay any attention.
So if that's the case, it's not worth listening to.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Oh I'm watching it because I can't help myself. I'm
addicted to all of it. With Liam though and what
he's done. There's there's words now from Czecho saying he's
got to show more respect. Fernando Alonso, he's not respectful that.
I don't believe that for a second.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
You don't earn respect Winnerando, Fernando Alonso will be will
be more impressed by the fact that Liam, you know,
is treating him just like everyone else.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So I wouldn't be wouldn't be listening to what Checko's
got to say and giving his opinion on what someone
else thinks right now, as I say, he's the statements
he's making and the way he's going on is based
on someone who's under a huge amount of pressure to
perform and proven that he's not capable. So you know,
I'm sure Fernando Alonso has respect for for the fact
(04:57):
that Liam is racing him as hard as what he
was and and you know, when you're a double world
champion and you're you're fighting rookie back it secutive Americas.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
The other week in.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Texas, he's in the car for the first time this
year and he's fighting Alonso. I think that's more Abo
out of frustration by Alonso, who should who believes he
should be further up the grip.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
You read between the lines, you know, I've got to
read between the lines.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
If one at the moment is very popular, it gets
lots of attention and lots of people have opinions about it,
and that's what we want. But you know, don't get
too carried away and believing everything you know that you
read or hear either because it doesn't in the greatest
scheme of the thing. It doesn't stand for a lot
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You know, Liam, you know what he's done.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
This the way he races, and I think he races
with respect when he's on the track. He doesn't go
out of control, but he races with a massive amount
of aggression. And we've seen that right the way through
his series. As he builds up towards Formula One, he
doesn't appear to have changed.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
He backs himself. He knows what he do.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
He can drive a wide car and he's got well
he's got nuts, isn't he great?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
He really has a big difference is he hasn't bought
brought his way into the into anything he's done. He's
did on merit. So he's driving a Formula one car
on merit. He's a lot of drivers in that field
who have bought their seat there and would like everyone
to believe that they hadn't haven't. So you know, I
don't know if we even need to justify it in
(06:28):
any other way.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
He is there because he is.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
A fantastic race car driver with the potential to be
one of the best of all time. So you know,
that's why he's there, and that's why Red Buller put
him in a car. So if that wasn't the case,
what's he doing there.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I'm not going to disagree with you for one New
York minute on that one. I think he's fantastic. But
his behavior to me, I was like, well, it is
what it is. I'm not exactly in love with that.
But it wasn't like he crashed into the side of someone.
He didn't get in anyone's way. It was a quick
bolt upright finger, that's all it was. And I'm off
(07:03):
racing again.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Nothing, that's nothing.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I mean just you know, if you can drag something
on for a long time and not have to go
and actually do some real work, which is the case
for a lot of journalism these days, then you know
that's what they'll do because it's an easy thing to
keep regurgitating. So it really means nothing in the great
scheme of things. It's just to move on to the
next one, which will be good because it will be it.
(07:26):
We'll be at Brazil this weekend. Albeit I'm sure all
the Sky TV people and everybody else that does the
coverage for Formula One. Will will drag it out and
make a big deal of it this week because it's
it is some kind of story, So anyway, he'll be
focused on actually just going this weekend to Sal Paula
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and putting in another great performance.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I'm sure what.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Is applying huge amounts of pressure both to Sergio Perez
and to Yuki Sonoda, and we saw it over the weekend.
Neither of those two characters are coping well with what
Lim is presenting. That's the issue for them. Not a hand,
not a hand signal. They're falling apart. You couldn't know
what he's doing at the moment, And exactly the same
for Perry's.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. They've got bigger problems to worry about.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
You know, he's qualifying ahead of them or not so much.
Not on the weekend. I mean, Sonoda ruins Liam's lap.
He also ruined his own lab by crashing on the
right at the end of qualifying of Q one, which
knocked them both out of the opportunity to go sorry
Q two to and ruin the opportunity to go through
(08:33):
to Q three, which I think it was based on
the information that was provided that looked like both of
them might have got through, so you know, and that
was an outperforming Piers who didn't make it out of
Q one. So you know, Liam, considering it's the second
race of the year years, is showing them, showing them
all up.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
So he just got it.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
He's just got to keep doing exactly what he's doing,
stay focused on the job. The team of providing him
great support, he's acknowledged that and and he's given back
to them with his speed as well.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
I don't think his car was very good on the
race on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
It looked like it was using its tire up a
little bit too much, and they went with an alternate
strategy running the medium first, sorry, the hard first and then.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
The medium second, which didn't work for them either.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
So you know, he got involved in a few little
bifts here and there, which was exciting, but I don't
think he had the car underneath him to actually get
a proper result on Sunday in Mexico.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
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