February 12, 2025 • 7 mins
Stan Sport Commentator Sean Maloney joined D'Arcy Waldegrave to preview the Super Rugby season from an Australian perspective.
Can a stacked Reds and Waratahs side challenge for a title?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dunsey Wildergrave
from News Talk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And it's warm. Welcome that now to stand Sportly Rugby
commentators Sean Maloney, Good evening, Sean.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hello mate.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
How I'm hoping I can answer it for you, and
I'm hoping I can say that you're as pumped as
I am with super Opey banging down the door on Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, I'm a Crusaders fan, so I can only look up.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yeah, yeah, and I used to play for the war
Retards as a kid, so I'm doing the same thing
from further back than you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Let's look at these from an Australian perspective, because we're
all tied up what's going on over here in New
Zealand with also my one pussyfaker and the Fijian drewer too.
But there is a small case of a rather large
island to the west that's got a concentrated set of teams.
Now with the demise of the rebels, your staff now
(01:03):
have been focused into a smaller amount. What is let's
say about the lightly success for all of the teams
representing the lucky country.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, I don't want to get too far ahead, because
as you will well know, it can often take a
little while for these squads and these teams and these
franchises to gel with new players.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So I don't want to get too far ahead. But
if we just check out the depths.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Now across each of those four Aussie sides that are left,
it goes a lot further down than it has in
recent years.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
With the exit of the Melbourne Rebels.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
And I think, mate, we're in a great position now
where once we hit that mid point of the year,
once we hit the three quarter point of the year.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
A few injuries start creeping in.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
We've now got guys who are super rubby level who
can step in and feel those spots, whereas last year,
he is previous, we had guys who just weren't ready
for it. So that's I think that's where we'll start
to see if it's really worked.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's worked.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It's magic around the halfway, the three quarter point of
the tournament.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Where's the excitement levels at its highest. As far as
the team signed, words have been spoken about the stack
nature of the war Tars and the Reds. They seem
to be the favorites amongst Australians, can you shed more
light on that for short?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, and I will by bouncing further south to the Brumby.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So it's it's such a weird setup.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
So the Brumbies are the humble perennial winners, right They
when they win more than they lose, they go bang wwwww.
They just get on with it. They just tradesmen like
there's no who are and the rest of it. Whereas
the Reds and the Tars that's where the majority of
Ossie Ruby fans live, that's where the majority of the
numbers watch on from. So there's automatically this hype attached
(02:46):
to the war Retars. And when you throw in ALII,
when you're throwing Taniel or two, when you're throwing Andrew Kellaway,
when you're throwing a host of other guys that they've
picked up, then the hype gets louder and louder. But
if they beat the Highlanders on Friday Night, Week two
will be enormous for the Tars and then it just
it'll game them into really quickly. So Ossie Ruby needs
(03:09):
each of those three teams to go well.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
But if the Tars go well, watch it float the
other two alongside and the Regil be excellent this year
as well. Man we know that great last year.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
They played phenomally fun Ruby to watch and they've got
a hard edge to them as well. So those three
sides will head up the fore Ossie teams making up
the things on this side of the Tasmun and it's
hard to split it. I would narrowly say that Brumbi's
ahead of the Tars and the Reds of the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
No means to the fourth thing, No, I won't No.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I wouldn't do them at the surface because when I speak,
and there's no way, mate. You watch, you watch them,
you watch them ambush as it's a home of the
ambush those early games this year, right.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So I was over there for.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
The Pert Sevens the other week where we have that
airpic Women's final between the Ossie Women and New Zealand women.
It was it was so hot, it was baking hot.
So that first game Western falls against Mine of Pacifica,
it's going to be a million degrees over there. And
then you've got the added challenge of visiting teams, especially
(04:12):
from New Zealand through the early part of the year.
It's a fine hour time difference and they're going to
know what's going on when they get there.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
We're not going to go what's going on? We try
and watch it either. That's another distinct disadvantage. Sure, maloney,
it's all sorts of crazy. I was trying to watch that.
What's the thought around what happened last year and how
that transfers into this year. You would have heard these
phrases as much as I have. Put the fan at
the center of the room, let's be fan centric, that's
(04:42):
so on and so forth. Do you think it's accelerated.
Do you believe we're going to have more of the same.
Do you think it's got some.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Kind of traction.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I think I don't think that we're going to have
as many buyouts. I think it's going to be tighter
for the duration of the year. I think we're seeing
the emergence of the Reds, especially last year, being able
to match it with the New Zealand sides, which makes
me think there's no reason they about a similar in
twenty twenty five, and obviously the task finished with the
Wooden Spoon, but they took down the Crusaders twice. So
(05:13):
there's an added excitement on this side around Super Robi
because we have the benefit of the Wallaby's doing what
they did on that spring toil last year, and we've
got the lines to come in June July. So for
the I mean, I'm not going to say for the
first time a long time, so that wouldn't be true.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
But there is there's an added interest level around the
game in the broader.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Sporting community here in austraight at the moment, and a
lot of it too will.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Be drawn and centered on Joseph Akus s Ali.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Mate. He's dominating all the headlines and he's not even
played Superobi yet.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Dominating I'd say Super Rugby Pacific Fantasy as well, and
a lot of people have climbed on the back of
his wagon. Hey, from a coaching perspective, Sean, we know
that Joe Schmidt who worked magic with the Wallaby showing
that the cattle is there. They just need a decent coach.
He's going come the end of the Chair Championship. Out
(06:07):
of the Aussie coaches, any of them got a fort
patent that they might even get close to that job
over through Super Rugby.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's an interesting one, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
So if you look at the three most likely so
we look down mcael at the Lauritars, who was previously
inside Dave Rennie's coaching staff, are going along well and
many had suggested that he might have might even have
been the successor to Dave if he hadn't been unfairly
shown the door decision that many of us still now
scratch our heads around.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So if Dan had to stay there, who knows what
happens start indoors don't only went to lesser. He's back
with guitars, so we know that he's done at that level.
Stephen Larkham, he's obviously an Ausi rugby legend, are great
and has kept the Brummies sticking along with win after
win after win.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So he's accomplished at a super level.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Then there's Kiss is another one who's drawing a lot
of attention because he has had a previous relationship with
Joe Schmidt. Has got the Reds hiring very similar I
would suggest in terms of personality as well, Liz and
Joe Schmidt.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So who knows, mate, I don't know. I don't know
which way they'll go with it. Warren Gatlin's on the
market now as.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well as you know, So's it'll be an interesting Byeline
side story, side quest, that's what I went for. The
side quest, that's what the kids say. Side quest for
a number of the Aussie Super UBI coaches this year.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I love the fact Sean Maloney, you're down with the kids.
I've got no idea what they're talking about, nor should I.
I need to understand my place in society and that's
the wrong in stand Sport League comments man, Shaan Maloney,
Always a pleasure. I know we'll do it again. You
enjoy the launch of Super Rugby.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, let's and it'll be warretas Highlanders from the SFFES
and I'll see you on Sky your side of the tasmum.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
For more from sports Talk, listen Lived and News Talks.
They'd be from seven pm weekdays. Well follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dunsey Wildergrave
from News Talk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And it's warm. Welcome that now to stand Sportly Rugby
commentators Sean Maloney, Good evening, Sean.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hello mate.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
How I'm hoping I can answer it for you, and
I'm hoping I can say that you're as pumped as
I am with super Opey banging down the door on Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, I'm a Crusaders fan, so I can only look up.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yeah, yeah, and I used to play for the war
Retards as a kid, so I'm doing the same thing
from further back than you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Let's look at these from an Australian perspective, because we're
all tied up what's going on over here in New
Zealand with also my one pussyfaker and the Fijian drewer too.
But there is a small case of a rather large
island to the west that's got a concentrated set of teams.
Now with the demise of the rebels, your staff now
(01:03):
have been focused into a smaller amount. What is let's
say about the lightly success for all of the teams
representing the lucky country.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, I don't want to get too far ahead, because
as you will well know, it can often take a
little while for these squads and these teams and these
franchises to gel with new players.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So I don't want to get too far ahead. But
if we just check out the depths.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Now across each of those four Aussie sides that are left,
it goes a lot further down than it has in
recent years.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
With the exit of the Melbourne Rebels.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
And I think, mate, we're in a great position now
where once we hit that mid point of the year,
once we hit the three quarter point of the year.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
A few injuries start creeping in.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
We've now got guys who are super rubby level who
can step in and feel those spots, whereas last year,
he is previous, we had guys who just weren't ready
for it. So that's I think that's where we'll start
to see if it's really worked.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's worked.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It's magic around the halfway, the three quarter point of
the tournament.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Where's the excitement levels at its highest. As far as
the team signed, words have been spoken about the stack
nature of the war Tars and the Reds. They seem
to be the favorites amongst Australians, can you shed more
light on that for short?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, and I will by bouncing further south to the Brumby.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So it's it's such a weird setup.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
So the Brumbies are the humble perennial winners, right They
when they win more than they lose, they go bang wwwww.
They just get on with it. They just tradesmen like
there's no who are and the rest of it. Whereas
the Reds and the Tars that's where the majority of
Ossie Ruby fans live, that's where the majority of the
numbers watch on from. So there's automatically this hype attached
(02:46):
to the war Retars. And when you throw in ALII,
when you're throwing Taniel or two, when you're throwing Andrew Kellaway,
when you're throwing a host of other guys that they've
picked up, then the hype gets louder and louder. But
if they beat the Highlanders on Friday Night, Week two
will be enormous for the Tars and then it just
it'll game them into really quickly. So Ossie Ruby needs
(03:09):
each of those three teams to go well.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
But if the Tars go well, watch it float the
other two alongside and the Regil be excellent this year
as well. Man we know that great last year.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
They played phenomally fun Ruby to watch and they've got
a hard edge to them as well. So those three
sides will head up the fore Ossie teams making up
the things on this side of the Tasmun and it's
hard to split it. I would narrowly say that Brumbi's
ahead of the Tars and the Reds of the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
No means to the fourth thing, No, I won't No.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I wouldn't do them at the surface because when I speak,
and there's no way, mate. You watch, you watch them,
you watch them ambush as it's a home of the
ambush those early games this year, right.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So I was over there for.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
The Pert Sevens the other week where we have that
airpic Women's final between the Ossie Women and New Zealand women.
It was it was so hot, it was baking hot.
So that first game Western falls against Mine of Pacifica,
it's going to be a million degrees over there. And
then you've got the added challenge of visiting teams, especially
(04:12):
from New Zealand through the early part of the year.
It's a fine hour time difference and they're going to
know what's going on when they get there.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
We're not going to go what's going on? We try
and watch it either. That's another distinct disadvantage. Sure, maloney,
it's all sorts of crazy. I was trying to watch that.
What's the thought around what happened last year and how
that transfers into this year. You would have heard these
phrases as much as I have. Put the fan at
the center of the room, let's be fan centric, that's
(04:42):
so on and so forth. Do you think it's accelerated.
Do you believe we're going to have more of the same.
Do you think it's got some.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Kind of traction.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I think I don't think that we're going to have
as many buyouts. I think it's going to be tighter
for the duration of the year. I think we're seeing
the emergence of the Reds, especially last year, being able
to match it with the New Zealand sides, which makes
me think there's no reason they about a similar in
twenty twenty five, and obviously the task finished with the
Wooden Spoon, but they took down the Crusaders twice. So
(05:13):
there's an added excitement on this side around Super Robi
because we have the benefit of the Wallaby's doing what
they did on that spring toil last year, and we've
got the lines to come in June July. So for
the I mean, I'm not going to say for the
first time a long time, so that wouldn't be true.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
But there is there's an added interest level around the
game in the broader.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Sporting community here in austraight at the moment, and a
lot of it too will.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Be drawn and centered on Joseph Akus s Ali.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Mate. He's dominating all the headlines and he's not even
played Superobi yet.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Dominating I'd say Super Rugby Pacific Fantasy as well, and
a lot of people have climbed on the back of
his wagon. Hey, from a coaching perspective, Sean, we know
that Joe Schmidt who worked magic with the Wallaby showing
that the cattle is there. They just need a decent coach.
He's going come the end of the Chair Championship. Out
(06:07):
of the Aussie coaches, any of them got a fort
patent that they might even get close to that job
over through Super Rugby.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's an interesting one, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
So if you look at the three most likely so
we look down mcael at the Lauritars, who was previously
inside Dave Rennie's coaching staff, are going along well and
many had suggested that he might have might even have
been the successor to Dave if he hadn't been unfairly
shown the door decision that many of us still now
scratch our heads around.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So if Dan had to stay there, who knows what
happens start indoors don't only went to lesser. He's back
with guitars, so we know that he's done at that level.
Stephen Larkham, he's obviously an Ausi rugby legend, are great
and has kept the Brummies sticking along with win after
win after win.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So he's accomplished at a super level.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Then there's Kiss is another one who's drawing a lot
of attention because he has had a previous relationship with
Joe Schmidt. Has got the Reds hiring very similar I
would suggest in terms of personality as well, Liz and
Joe Schmidt.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So who knows, mate, I don't know. I don't know
which way they'll go with it. Warren Gatlin's on the
market now as.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well as you know, So's it'll be an interesting Byeline
side story, side quest, that's what I went for. The
side quest, that's what the kids say. Side quest for
a number of the Aussie Super UBI coaches this year.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I love the fact Sean Maloney, you're down with the kids.
I've got no idea what they're talking about, nor should I.
I need to understand my place in society and that's
the wrong in stand Sport League comments man, Shaan Maloney,
Always a pleasure. I know we'll do it again. You
enjoy the launch of Super Rugby.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, let's and it'll be warretas Highlanders from the SFFES
and I'll see you on Sky your side of the tasmum.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
For more from sports Talk, listen Lived and News Talks.
They'd be from seven pm weekdays. Well follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
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