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October 10, 2024 • 38 mins

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James McOnie joins Manaia Stewart for a Fridee edition of The Agenda to discuss a heated episode of 'Game of 2 Halves' and Shaun Johnson unretiring to save the Kiwis (6:34).

Then the fellas debate the greatest off-field moments of the Warriors 2024 season (19:41) and what is the Greatest Sporting Name in NZ (27:06)...

Then the fellas attempt to discuss Bathurst before inevitably falling into pie chat (31:43).

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Life in the Export Beer Gaden Studio and brought to you,
as always by Export Ultra. This is the Agenda for Friday,
the eleventh of October.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
The Agenda Podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense and clap Trap,
brought to you by Export.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Of Ultra in a big heavy Friday. To James mccaroney,
Hello verm and how are you very well? Thank you James.
This isn't the first time we've seen each other this week.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Weird, No, it isn't. We we jilled. We went to
war and in Game of two halves we did, we did,
we went.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'll tell you what Rave reviews last night on the
episode eight thirty pm on Sky Sports Scotsport over and
I'm sure if you go and there'll be some sort
of replayability. Rave reviews from my mum who said good show,
best one so far and then she said, oh no,
you were so close to a win.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Very good though. That's a good mum review, because you know,
it's funny, like I get the feeling that a dad
review is kind of like oh your last yeah, next
summer is it's just really an entertainment show. We are
a bit competitive out there. We do want to win.
We do want to win. Yeah, but I quite like it.
She said, Oh, well, you know, oh you're lost. Yeah yeah,

(01:11):
my dad hasn't watched it. My mom though, like the
first ever radio show I ever did. She tuned in,
you know, I texted, oh, mom, I'm going to be
on the radio this weekend. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
She turned in and her feedback was the first show
on Hodaki. She goes, I love the music selection. I
didn't pick the music. No, you don't get to pick them.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
She's saying, you've got a great taste of music. It's like, yeah,
did you listen to anything I see? What about the stuff? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
it was okay. Yeah, I really enjoyed the music. But yeah,
that's almost what you want. You don't want them to
sort of drill down and give you a proper ear
check is what they call it in the business. When
someone listens to what your show, they're doing an air

(01:49):
check and the last thing you need is your mum
to go, hey, now when you could you make that out?
It's a bit cleaner.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Do you have an out before you go into the break?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know, keep it to about two to three minutes tops,
you know, and if you could just stick on the
one topic without wandering off into the weeds, don't worry.
I get that from my dad. He'll all right, he'll
give me the full You should do this, you should
do this.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
How come you haven't done this? Have you listened to
Hamish and Andy before? That kind of thing? Yeah? Yeah,
because he's a consumer of content, isn't he your dad? Yes?
And he does sound like he's probably a creative man
as well, very creative man.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, yeah, wasted in the in the coal mines of
Western Australia. But yeah, however him on the acc by
the sounds of it, well, we want because his nickname
Stu and during the NRL season he'll basically live tweet
every Warriors game but on Facebook, right, so he'll get he'll.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Get a mate who does that. So he does the
the updates and what he's passed off about what was good?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yes, bullshit? That should have been a try. We need
to get rid of this guy and bring this guy in.
So I thought what we should do is after each
Warriors game, get him on his nickname Stu. We'll call
it Stewanon, and then he comes in with his NRL
conspiracy theory.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
My mate is called I'm happy to name him and
shaman Matt Sievil, wonderful man. I went to school with him.
He was the fastest guy and our rugby team, actually
we want it know he was. He was the fastest
guy because he won the hundred meters and bare feet
against the guy who had full running shoots, spikes on
and was a New Zealand representative. But this Matt sever

(03:18):
could scurry like a bloody rat, you know. And so
he is the guy. And he played rugby for King
Country when they're in the first division. So he's played
first division rugby n PC. But he's mad about league
and if the Warriors are going badly, it's just stream
of conscious like just the whole thing of too much
information about how he's feeling about the team. So he goes.

(03:42):
It affects everything, affects his whole day and you know
the rest of the week.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
One hundred Yeah, well that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
He no one was picking him to win. The guy
and the spikes looked fantastic. Yeah, yeah, that was Hugh Percy.
I mean there's the names that mean nothing, but he
could run. And so he was running ten point eight
three as a school war year. Here's a proper q Percy.
Percy was, but James was his name? Cevil. Matt Sevil
ran him down at Hamilton Boys, so.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Must have done like a ten to seven and bear feet.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I don't I think Hugh got it wasn't his best
the race. I mean, you know he would have done
that on a nice Mondo track surface whatever. This is
the grass at Hamelon Boys unforgiving.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, and anytime you see a man in bear feet
in front of you, you probably give up, wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, and you start to sort of get speed. Was
what am I doing wrong? Go back to my processes?
Because he ran so beautifully and Matt's you know, and
he could just shift. But he's just like stew your dad,
what's your what's your first name? Warren, Warren Stewart, He's
Those two together could form a bloody They could almost

(04:50):
be like grumpy old men three sixty New Zealand styles.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Oh my god, mane we should do that would be
a great little TV segment as n RL three six.
But it's just some guys. Yeah, you know, they're not
journalists or anything. Yeah, you get two dudes from opposing teams.
You know supporters and in one other random an actual journal,
and they just go for it. Three sixth They.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Start off with your dad and my mate, yes, and
then we just were on Matt's evil yeah together.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I mean, I'll adjudicate.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah. Yeah. I used to love winding mad up, but
then I realized he actually does care, like he's a
proper fan who's fully invested. Yeah yeah, oh mate, Yeah,
he's not just teeing off on them. No.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
But it's also a part of being a Warriors fan.
And I think that's the part that people that don't
follow the Warriors, that's the part they don't understand. They're
like that team sucks, they never make the they've never
won the comp blah blah blah. That's not that's not
it's about a large part of being a Warriors fan
is hating the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, I know. This is the weird thing. Like the
amount of love now for the Warriors and the people
who say day one and all this sort of stuff.
I mean, there are people out there who arelive they
are one hundred pc. There's no way like I know
that the I'm not sure what the crowd numbers went
down to, but it would have been maybe eleven or
twelve thousand, possibly.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Lower even lower, Yeah, around that sort of twenty nineteen,
just before COVID. Those were dark days. I was out
there sitting in the sideways rang just because it was
something to do. But there would be the faithful there
probably I'd say about six thousand of them, and they'd
be sitting in the pissing rain watching someone line up
a conversion to cut the deficit to forty. We're still

(06:32):
getting spanked, but they stick with it. Actually, while we're
on League, Shawn Johnson this came out overnight, has come
out of retirement to answer Stacy Jones, so is to
play halfback for the Kiwis in a couple of weeks.
This is I mean they'd been talking about because Jerome
Hughes obviously looked injured in the Grand Final, and Seawn

(06:53):
Johnson came out on i think on his own podcast
and said, yeah, Stacey rung me, I'm not playing. And
then how all of a sudden he's come out and
he's going to answer the bat signal. Where did this
come from?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
How I think he had to? Did he ask him
once after Jerome or before? It was for Jerome? So
that's the problem is Jerome Hughes not being available, the
injuries worse than they thought. That pretty much put them
in the cucker so old shawnee j. I guess it
was an easy one to say no too, because you've

(07:25):
got the Dali m Medal winner, so everything's going to
be fine. But then without him, you're not scraping the barrel.
I like all our our halves like it's never been stronger,
but you are getting the guy who can drive you
around the park and just do everything to you know,
just the right way.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I didn't realize that Shann Johnson hadn't played for the
Kiwis in five years.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I suppose.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh yeah, there was a period the where I feel
like the keyis hadn't played in like eighteen months almost
two years. Remember through COVID. Basically KWI Rugby League didn't
There was no internationals for a long long time.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
It was a blockbuster test at Mount Smart with Latrell
and Joey marn who sort of like trading blows. It
was a beautiful thing to see. Yeah, I don't even
know what the score was. It was only two points
in it. Ossie might have won that and think it
might have been Latrell's day.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, he has those.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
And then last year, of course there was the massive
upset and we won, you know, beat one of the
strongest Ozzie teams, Jerome Hughes at the Helm there as well.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, there was a spanking right and the tron. I've
had a spanking in the tron before, mainly by myself.
But the thing about it is that the spanking in
the tron was one of the best displays of Like,
we had one Keywis test like that. I know you
would have been the young Maniah, but over in England,
I think it was a twenty four nil scoreline ma

(08:46):
vi Brent Webb on fire. I think Wayne Bennett might
have been coaching us then and so it was just
a massive shutout and everyone was like, holy shit, that
was worth getting up for.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I remember one thing that I miss about the key
Is watching as a kid, there were so many more
Northern Hemsphere tests. You'd get up at stupid o'clock and
watch those, and we had so many more Kiwis sorry
England Kewis that played in England in the Kiwis team
that we don't have anymore. Yeah, So Peter Hacker who
got selected to this Kiwi squad. He's playing for Hull

(09:17):
and I think he's the first dude in like six
seven years.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I think the last one was Thomas Lulu. Yeah, Thomas
would always get picked.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, but back in the day you would have all
sorts of dudes. Yeah that we're playing over there. Your
Paul's your ros Robbie always got picked. Henry should have
been picked more.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's probably one of the biggest mistakes we ever made
as a as a nation, a national shame of not
persisting with Robbie Paul. We just I mean, Genamu was
was the Warrior's six. But Henry, sorry, Henry Paul was
the one they ignored. Yeah, time and time again. Every
time we played, the asses would go, oh he's a player. Yeah, wow,

(09:57):
he's good, you know. And then and then if you
go to Wigan to win some three championships and a
bloody man steel, yeah exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Is it because his brother was slightly better than him,
and so then we for some reason we knocked them
down a peck because your brother's better.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Robbie could play multiple positions, so he could he was
like Thomas Luluwai shove him anywhere. I think Henry was
better at his peak because he was like that. He
was like Benji. He was a hot steppo who was
goosing all over the place.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, so selectors don't like that. I don't like a goosey.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Leveyla. There was all sorts of duds over there. You
bring him back.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yes, this was my The height of my n RL
fandom was around that sort of era.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's you would have been really young, were really young
for that. When they finally played The Poor Brothers together,
it was an absolute revelation, I think. I mean, I
remember covering one test for Sunday News and in Sydney
they just lost. And I went into the changing room
and Gordon Tallis took me into the Ossie's changing room

(10:59):
just with me, mate, and so you're not getting kicked
out when you've got good and Tallis he put me
under his arm and I was like, okay, cool, thanks mate,
And so went in and I saw there was some
pretty impressive sights. Actually I don't know if I really
want to say, but some sights.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Okay, yeah, it could be left on the cutting room
maybe the next book.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah. But then that was when Henry Paul played bloody well.
And it took another, i want to say, three or
four years until Frank Ndercott finally went, oh maybe we'll
get him back out this guys, all right, yeah, and
he and we absolutely smashed them over at North Harbor Stadium.
Yeah oh right, yeah no, so well you're right.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I was young, but this was when that Stacy Jones
rugby League game had come out, all right, so that
captured my attention. Now, my dad's obviously always watching league
and so I had a passing interest in it. But
once I got my hands on the PlayStation game, then
I was like, oh, I know all the players. Now
I'm up at six o'clock and my Nana's living room
watching us take on England. The here Bears Joe nulliv

(11:58):
Our Tony pul To, his name always stuck in my mind.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
I love he was only got busted for lifting the
knee into the tackle and stuff, and I was like, going,
come on, that's just that. Everyone does it, even the
Ossies do it. Some are just a little bit more
pronounced with it. A was it.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Solomon a cutter got done for it recently as well.
So when he value used to cannon, like get up
and cannon ball himself into tackles.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
It's innovation, is yeah, it was just part of I mean,
let's just say it's kind of when you grow up
and you and you play a little bit of league.
You know, it's usually just at lunch time. You're always
getting somebody who does the big stride and the knee,
you know, the knee out. It's like just it's just
the way it goes. And then when they outlaw stuff
like that, you're going, okay, right, and then.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
How are you going to because you're trying to protect yourself,
you know, and trying to fuck the other dude up
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
This was before Yeah, I guess maybe you could you
could say you're protecting the tackler's head. But this is
before they even penalized high shots or anything. Yeah, so
that we know that knee thing that you're doing those
kiwis because you could tell he's a kiwi. That's what
you do every playground around New Zealand. They lift the
knee and you go, You're.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Only going to do it once and they won't come
at you again.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, just on league. And I love Shawney Jay, but
I noticed that Nelson a soft of SOLOMONO is out
because of that stupid band that got them ruled out
of the Grand Final. Is he just getting penalized for
being big? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
One hundred Yeah, and Kiwi and Kiwi, Yeah, that's right,
for looking like a mean sucker. Yeah, there is a
lot of that because if it's a smaller dude, you
just you won't get done for that.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Kind of thing. You know.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's and it comes from rugby league being adjudicated solely
on vibe and they do that at the judiciary as well.
What's the vibe of this? Yeah, and the vibe is
we can't have Big Nelson out there, you know, head
high on people to people up doing all this kind
of stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
It's almost like they want to get the guy's passport.
Where you're from, mate, week, Can I see your papers? Kiwi?
You're off? Yeah, you're from to Wombat. Yeah, and I
stay here, may be sweet, You're all good. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
So we play Australia and I think in christ Church
in October twenty seventh, so it's a couple of weeks away.
I don't know if this I don't know. I don't
really know what the appetite is for rugby league at
the moment.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
You know that the casual fans sort of falls off
once the Warriors are eliminated, and then the die hards
tend to fall off after the Grand Final. Do you
think it'll it will fire back up again when that
game comes around.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I was just going to say, the promotion of Kiwi's
games needs a bit of a boost, and maybe that's
us at Sky need to do that as well, because
like you look, look at us talking about league. It
is a big part of our sporting fandom. You know,
the Kiwis are massive, and we need to get a
bit more hyped about it because you know that if

(14:53):
it's rugby, for example, the acc we when the team's released,
all the nicknames go out. You know. Yeah, so maybe
it's time that we did that for the Kiwi's and
actually give them a taste.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Maybe it's time we looked at ourselves, the Alternative commentary
collect if we're part of this media landscape.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
We are, and we are the nicknames, and do we
really want to piss off all those Kiwi guys? Or
Nelson's on the team, So that's good. You wouldn't want
to give him a nickname he didn't like.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
He so we were at the Radio Awards about a
couple of years ago. I think you might have been
there as well. You were with us. We had a
room to get ready at in the sky City hotel
across the road, and at the time the Kiwis were
in town and they were staying in the same hotel.
So we're all going up the lift to get changed
in the room, have a couple of beers and then
go to the Radio Awards. We get into the lift,

(15:42):
I'm talking. I definitely remember Lee, Jerry, I feel like
you were there, g Lane, some loud individuals. We all
get into the lyft. Nelson is off for Solomon is
in the lift and it goes dead silent all the
way up to about the eighth floor. Then we jump out.
Then everyone starts talking again. And that's just how scary
Nelson is. He might be the biggest man I've ever

(16:04):
seen in real life.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
He probably wanted to join in on the on the bands,
poor guy. But before we move on from League, there's
one thing I wanted to say about Sean Johnson is
his highlight reel is crazy and I remember being in
Queensland when he scored that outrageous try against the Broncos
beat about seven players and just went seventy meters or something.

(16:27):
But my favorite Sean Johnson try is at the end
of that World Cup semi final against England when it
was the last player of the game pretty much and
he put the step on the outside step it looked
like he was going to cut back in and then
just skinned England and scored sort of nearest the corner
out wide anyway, And I think it was the kick

(16:48):
to win it as well, that he needed to slot.
And to see Sam Burgess and all the Englishmen men,
you know, in their faces was unreal, just knowing that
they'd had it, played a bloody good cornament, there was
a chance to win it at home. World Cup. Generational
players like Sam Bugis and all these other guys, but
Shawn Johnson just an absolute clutch genius moment. I do

(17:13):
love early shawnee Jay.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Here's a controversial question for you, Sean Johnson or Stacy Jones,
because those are our two half back options for this
next test.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
But day's the little general. I mean, it's it.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Might be how old were you when you watched each Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
It's too tough. It's actually quite good that Jerome Hughes
has come through and just been world class. Because even
I love Gary Freeman, yeah you know, and so I'd
say Freeman, Jones and Johnson at their peak are probably
all relatively equal, but Jerome Hughes looks like he's slightly better.

(17:55):
I mean yeah, well yeah, well medalist. If he carries
on playing like that, then we might actually have our
goat half back. But those three, yeah, between Gary Freeman
and his peak was crazy good. Yeah, we couldn't spiral
all the ball offers left hand.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
We were talking about that. Yeah, the end in past
the socks down.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, end over in but that was the you know,
the start of the day. There are lots of Aussies
that still do end over end oh yeah, yeah, a
lot of them. But yeah, Freeman Jay, he could run,
he was he was into everything. He was aggressive, Yeah
he was. He was great. Stacey just freakish gliding runner,

(18:35):
you know, great bloody moves in the old Stace Scurrier
as well. Yeah, load of the ground that was the ground,
but like a rod up a dreamed point. He was good.
I mean, Sean, I feel like there's two versions of
Sean Johnson, the later career game manager. So it's almost

(18:57):
COVID separates them, doesn't it really? Over Crnella separates it.
So then you go shawne j before he went to Cronulla,
just excitement, machine crazy tries hot stepper, Hot stepper comes
back and then he even if he's the elder statesman.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Even at Crinella, he was very much the game manager organizer.
I think his might have been his first year at
Cornelli led the league in try assists, right, so you
know the game changed and then and then that last
season not this one that he just had the one
before he should have won WM. He got dudded by
Pong at the end. That's right, yeah, all right, let's

(19:35):
take a quick.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
You guys say, let's take a quick break. We'll take
a quick break.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
We're going to pay the bills as they say, We'll
be right back, all right, just before we been the
league chat altogether. We have teamed up with Helenstein's to
present the ACC's Best of twenty twenty four Warriors edition.
So this is on Instagram. We want to know what
the best moments were on the field off the field
for the Warriors twenty twenty four season. We got four

(19:59):
category to roll out over the next four days. Last
night we kicked it off with the best off field performance.
Our nominees are Stacy Jones rolling a Drry in the
coaches box and Marcelo Montoya asking what's the point of cheerleaders?
On the montoyas Did you see that?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:16):
No, he was basically because big his wife Taylor, she
was a cheerleader for the Bulldogs. That's how they met,
and he was asking what's the point of cheerleaders? She said,
you're a winger. You're the closest thing to a cheerleader.
So don't you be asking what's the point of us?
Think for me? Stacy Jones rolling a Darry in the
coach's box. That is that's an all timer. I didn't

(20:39):
realize that actually happened. When was this, Yeah, this was
sort of early doors in the season. Someone noticed it
just in the back, you know, when they cut up
to the coach's box. Right, he's standing at the back
just rolling a dirry. It must have been one of
the must have been one of the losses.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
He is. He's a wonderful human. Stacy Jones, great bloke
and loves his cricket weirdly in the offseason, even when
he is at the peak of his fame. He'd be
up in the west stand at Eden Park just watching
one day and stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, speaking of cricket, we were just
looking at the scoreboard for this English game at the moment.
So England scored a record breaking eight hundred and twenty
three for seven.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Oh my god, and by the way declared.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
So their man Harry Brooks scored three hundred and seventeen,
first triple century in a long time.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Joe Root got to sixty two.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
So Joe Route gets to sixty two and doesn't get
the headlined because Harry Bark scores three seventeen exactly so,
and they declared as well at twenty three to give
themselves a chance to win. I don't think if I
was in charge of that team, I would not declare.
I'd go for the thousand, even if it meant it
was a draw. Because my theory is a lot of

(22:01):
people win test matches all the time. People do not
score one thousand runs in an innings very often. No,
so I would want to get on the old export
ultra bear bottle cap question for scoring a thousand runs.
But what's going on over there in Pakistan? This is ridiculous.
They're producing wonderfully flat pictures. But I was just going

(22:21):
to say, you can't see the pictures the road, because
I can imagine some of the roads in Pakistan will
be quite tricky to beout on. But this one is like,
this one is amazing for because Pakistan first innings five
fifty six.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
But you probably look at that if you're England, you're
like Jesus, yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's daunting, right, And they
went in there. But it's interesting because it looks like
they were playing bass ball. So Crawley opened and got
seventy eight at almost to run a ball. Harry Brook
was almost to run a ball for his three seventeen,
and Joe Root was just dragging as he or Ben

(22:57):
Duckett was better than run a ball with eighty four?
Is it Ben? I don't know what his name is.
I figure it's Benet's be here. Yeah, but Joe Route
was he was batting at seventy so that was not
quite you know, baseball, but still pretty good for Test matches.
And that's that's just how you get eight twenty three.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
That's ridiculous. Yeah, it's so good, it's so good for
the sport to make test matches a bit more relevant.
But like I said, I'll go.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
For the time I always feel, and you go for
the time exactly, you're so close. I always feel that
the at your test team, like we've got Phillips down there,
who can pretty much go nuts if you really want to.
You do need someone like that like that, because Harry
Brook he's ready to explode at anytime. So you've got

(23:47):
to have your You've got to have your volcano down there, mate. Yeah,
for sure to give And we missed a trick there
with old Guppy, like we made him open at tests
and then never gave him a decent go at number
five or six.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, you think you should have been further down, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Further down And everyone goes, oh, I can't play spind that.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Well, it's like, well, who can name a kV who's
a great player.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Maybe Caane Williamson, but yeah, yeah freak. And then remember
Jesse had a brief go and he scored a double
ton against Indian batting at number five. So I always
thought it's good having someone down there who can just
accelerate the score like Chris Ken's would do that. Yeah
back in the day. Yeah, It was just amazing.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Even even just for the for the vibe even, you know,
like just to know you got that down there?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, or did it? Yeah, I'm old Gil. Chris was
the well, he was the og sort of like coming
in at six or seven and just going, actually, it's
not over your blasting of bloody Ton.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Roy Andrew Simon's Yes, Yeah, he's another one of them. Yeah,
so you do you need that fire cracker down there?

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Your volcano, volcano down down down the order helps and
and Harry's quite high in their order. I think was
he five? Is batting five?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, just just for your own entertainment, even more so
than like actual well, it.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Makes people go because you go watch this guy, you know,
because that was what it was like there. For Chris
Ken's it was like, shit, he might go off here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, because I was at the I was at the
cake tin when Martin Guptill put that one on the
roof in the twenty fifteen year WORL Cup. That was
fucking exciting. Yeah, was the second man ever to do it. Yeah,
you're right, you need that volcan. He could have been it,
He could have been it. They never gave him a chance.
They'd only given him the chance. The America's Cup. I

(25:31):
feel like we've been talking about it for about a month,
but it actually starts this weekend in Earnest.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
So I don't know. I feel like it's definitely feels
like a white boomers sport to me, Oh yeah, massive,
like TV one America's Cup coverage huge. The only thing
bigger than that was when Liam Lawson made Formula one.
They really went to town TV one. Yeah see that.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
But there is a certain section of society's been going
ape shit about Liam. And I'm not saying it's like
I'm excited about it too. It it's great, but it's like, yeah,
do we love Formula one that much?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Apparently we do, and it's the drive to survive thing
that speak. Yeah. But also there's they love to mention
a bit of Bruce McLaren Denny hum or, the whole
set of like, you know, go through the list Chriss
aim on. Yeah, there's a history thing. It's like we
belong at this top table and it's our guy. You
all have got one now, Yeah, I know it is,

(26:25):
but you're so right about it it being a wretch
old guy sport sailing, because just this morning I was
talking to Laine about it.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I was like, old Russell Kurtz gonna get fired up.
He's like, no, No, Russell Kurtz is the he's in the
sale GP now and it's Grant Dalton Papali who's in
the and the other one. And I was like, but
why I'm getting them confused is because all that happens
is they do a race or they don't do a
race here in New Zealand, and then they take the
government to court. And that's why it's so confusing. They

(26:56):
both done it.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
You know, well you might have just the fact that
you just mentioned Grant Dalton Papol. Sorry. I was just thinking,
is there something the ACC could do where we discuss
the greatest name in New Zealand sport and and it
has to be just the name. And so it could
be Williams, right, so you've got Yvette Sunny, Bill Brian,

(27:19):
you know, like it could be Williams, it could be
Dalton because you've got Andy Dalton, Grant Dalton, Tania Dalton,
Dalton Papal and then but some people it's like you
might just be training on your on your one one person,
So it could be Lomu right, Loma is doing a

(27:40):
lot of hard doing a lot of hard work. But
but but that's that's fine because McLaren's doing the same thing. Right, Yes,
McLaren is doing But you could say, well, actually that's
still the greatest name because you're everywhere. Every single time
there's a Formula one race, the McLaren name is there.
So I think Edmund Hillary won our greatest New Zealander
of all time. I'm yeahing.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
So he's doing a lot of hard work for the Edmunds.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
For the Eddy. So the greatest name name in New
Zealand sports. So for example, the Crows, they've got to
the Meads, they've got more than that because they had
Ronda who played for New Zealand, played basketball for New Zealand. Right, yeah,
so that white Lock white Lock's doing. But mainly it's
Sam doing most of the heavy lifting, isn't he?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
But he does have a good choir by Taylor.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Barrett. Obviously Barrett is definitely up. There isn't left to
throw Smiley in there too.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yes, I wouldn't be surprised though if it was like
something like John that took it out.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's true, it's it's tough, but in the ACC I'll
have to work out the parameters of this because I've
just made it up now. But it's the greatest name,
greatest sporting sporting names. Yeah, greatest sporting names.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
You're right with my taste now, If so, this is
the greatest New Zealand sporting names. Yes, so if you
go Williams for Sonny Bill, will you allow Serena?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
No? But I will allow Yvette and her brother Roy.
Even though none of these people are related. I wonder
if Brian and Sonney Bill they could be related though,
but potentially potentially.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, I'm just trying to think of there'll be some
Johannis in there.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, I mean, Josh, you can put some some names
forward because you know, you know there's going to be
and Williams is kind of very generic. It's just one
of those names. It's just always like you say, it's.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Smith Smith, well Smith, Yeah, Conrad, Aaron Wayne Wayne, Yeah, Smith,
the Smith would go close.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
We've had a few, haven't We had a few? Smith
was your tyrone Smith in the in the Kiwis as well,
Brandon Smith, Brandon Smith yeah, the cheese Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Okay, there could be something in there. This will this
will trigger someone, so get onto the old voicemail thing
and send us.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
In greatest New Zealand sporting name. Yes is it? We
did try. I tried.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
It was a few years ago. Someone made the longest
run on name in the National Rugby League, so they
would have, you know this first person, Grant Dalton, Papoali
blah blah blah, blah blah blah. They got about seven
out of it. I try to do it with rugby union.
I couldn't, but this is definitely more doable.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
It's probably more we could sort of have an offshoot
of the competition or to have the just the best
sounding iconic name. Because hy Tro Cassini, which is is
basically hydrogen oxygen. He's hydroscene or Cassini and nitri. Yeah, exactly,
hydro nitro Cassini. And so that's probably one of the

(30:43):
greatest names just because it's so cool. And then that
that's a whole other category because even John oh Omer
was kind of like that was just such an original,
like you never heard that name. There was never another
Jonah playing for I mean, if you say Jonaheah in
New Zealand sport, it'ski oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Sorry, no, and also easy for the parlaged to pronounce
as well. If he had one of those ridiculously long ones. Yeah,
I just don't think it would have It would have
been tough.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Well, there's one guy who plays for the IS. He
was still with the Gold Coast Titans and he plays
Origin and it's the Lai. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, that's my acc mad Monday commentary nickname TAOI.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
See that's spell that exactly. That's put that on gome
on spelling be Yeah. Yeah, very hard to get in scrabble.
All right, let's take one more quick break. We'll come
back and talk a bit of motor games.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
It's no secret on this podcast so I'm not a
fan of motorsports. In fact, I do refer to them
quite quite often as motor games. But I also understand
the place that they have in New Zealand sporting landscape.
People love it and it is Bogan Christmas this weekend
because Bathurst kicks off the Bathurst one thousand, which I
only just found out is because it's a thousand.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
K's Yeah, I didn't, I didn't. You know.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
This is one of those ones where like, oh my god,
I know it's been right in front of me, So
are you telling me.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
That the Indianapolis five hundred?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, but it's my miles Yeah right, Okay, I've only
just learned out. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, so that kicks
off on the weekend. Like I said, I don't know
a lot about Motor Games, but what I did notice
looking through the odds on the tearb's all the names
they stay the same, you know?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah about are you're saying some of them are coming
back as co drivers.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I was talking to a Motor Games enthusiast this morning
and he was saying, yeah, because a lot of the
guys they had retired from the circuit, but because you
need two drivers for Bathurst, it's a good chance to
be like, let's get this guy.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Out because MERV won a title recently, is a co driver?
Didn't he?

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I feel, I mean, you're asking the wrong person, but
that does ring a bell. He is a full time
winner who we tried to get on the show on
On with Jerry on Hardaker Breakfast. I tried, We tried
to get him on the show this morning, but he
had a team dinner last.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Night Murf Murva.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
And the phone was not ringing this morning straight through
to a voicemail. Can you imagine the pass up those old
boys must have when they get over there.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Oh yeah, he's a he's a great New Zealander, Greg
Murphy and properly loved over there as well, like yeah, embraced.
You know, it is quite tough, like obviously Neil Finn
with crowded house. They pretty much think he's a nussy.
But murfh more than a lot of Kiwi sports people
went over there and was absolutely beloved. I loved. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
But they they haven't tried to steal him. They acknowledge
him as a Kiwi So uh you Jamie wind caps
are in there obviously, chairs mossed it. Uh and there
as well. You're Garth tand its Tander. Yeah, home Gardener's
in there as well. So it's all the same name
as craiglounce.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Is there a Chickenee holding in there? Like that? There's
a car because I remember one of the cars was
sponsored by chickadee, you know those ones and the you
had to heat them up in the service station. They
were like a rat. Yeah you know, what would you
you'll go to be if you went to the service
servolate at night after a few beers?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
What are you going for Pepps steak pie, and I'll
get a power aid for the next morning as well.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Oh it's quite oh yeah, planning your head.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, I'll stand at the window and make the dude
behind the counter you go and get me a bloody
Gormet pepper steak pie.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
There copt blue power aide.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Look, why do they bother making any other flavor?

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Exactly, it's got to be blue.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
The orange and the yellow.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
When you handed the red, it's like, really okay, sure,
I'll drink it of the orange. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
If I see a sicko come out of a petrol
station and he's holding a silver power aid, it just
speaks volumes, because what is the analogue of that in nature?
Like what flavor is silver?

Speaker 3 (35:00):
It just cloudy.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's a cloudy purse, cloudy purse.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah, that's out. So okay, you've got You've got you
a pepper State pie. I feel like i'd go for
a pie, but I think I tried a chickenee because
I saw it and I was the advertising worked and oh,
I mean, you cannot get it right. It's kind of
like a it's a wrap or a subway sandwich, but

(35:25):
you have to put it in the microwave to heat
it up. It's not good because it turns the inside
into malta, lava and mush. Yeah, it's just I mean,
I don't know, it's that was there the whole thing.
I think that's I think they had other products, but yeah,
I just remember going for a chickenya and going, no,
this is where New Zealand has ahead of everybody else.
If the pie warm is still going, yeah, and there's

(35:47):
a good pie there late at night, that should go
to and that'll sort you out, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
You don't will line the guts a pie and then
a good walk home.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Yeah, you're fine. The next day you could get something
sweet you don't really fit.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Also, you're running the risk of throwing up at that
point if you're eating something too sweet.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Maybe the raspberry twisty things. You know there's raspberry tool.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Really maybe you go the Twizzlers, Yeah, Twizzler, Yeah, not
for me. I did have a friend who used to
work at the local petrol station which shut at six o'clock,
and at five point forty five he would fill the
pie warmer with hot pies and then at six o'clock
he got his bossle mate, we didn't sell all the
pies and his boss would go, oh, well, you just

(36:32):
take them home and spine. He would walk back into
his flat like Santa Claus, just like a hero. I
got buttered check in, I got mince and cheese, I
got steak.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Who wants what that's good?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
So maybe they need that at Bethist. Look, if you
come to this podcast to find out who's going to
win Bathist, we can't help you.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
By the way, if I can tell you about pies though,
And if you want to drive through the White Cut
tour and you're thinking, hmmm, I'm feeling like I'm a
bit peckish, and there's all the chain brands around and
you go, yeah, because his drive throughs everywhere and the
White cotill Now it never used to be like that.
Mada man has got like four yeah exactly, it's ridiculous.
Got everything you want, But just go to your dairy

(37:10):
and if they've got Oxford pies, that's the brand ox
Oxford Oxford. It feels like it's just in that White
Cottle Bay of Plenty area, maybe even just not full
Bay of Plenty, just a little bit to the White
Cots side. If you go there, you get an Oxford pie.
You cannot go wrong. I reckon that they are probably
the most consistent. Just a good old dairy pie and

(37:32):
I steak and mushroom. But surprisingly there's a meatball pie
which will knock your socks off.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, yeah, I like that obviously. When you can't get
a hold of a delicious four and twenty pie.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
This shit I keep on forgetting about our sponsor.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
No, no, they're not in the white edis okay, but yeah,
obviously if you can't find them, then you go for
meatball sounds delightful to me. All right, let's knock this
thing on the head for a Friday. Thank you very much, Shames, cheersman,
and I are great to be here, guy.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
The Mulos were in deep shut low down in Tallad.
Oh yeah yeah, good luck to you. All right.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
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