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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live from the Export Beer Gadden's studio and brought to you,
as always by Export Ultra the BF for here. This
is the Agenda for a Thursday, the seventeenth of October.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
The Agenda podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense and Clap Trap,
brought to you by Export Ultra.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And later on in the show we will be joined
by Ali Williams, who is in the car wash at
the moment, which is what we refer to when someone
comes through and is interviewed by every media outlet in
the building.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm sure he's been at every other building. I know
he was in at Sky on Tuesdays on my team
for Gamer two Haves tonight eight thirty pm on Sky
and Sky's Sky Open yep. But joining us in the
podcast this morning is New Zealand's answer to Adrian Wodrian Narowski.
It is James mcconny, Good morning, Good morning. Wo'se bombs
boo boo boo, boo boom everywhere. And a more obscure
(00:49):
reference that I was trying to get off on social
media was Jams Sheronia, you know, because Woe is retired.
If you don't know, I've got no idea what these.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Are the NBA reporters who come up with all the
early scoops on the NBA.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Stuff and Woj's Hall of Famer. He just retired this
year and in his stead is now this though, Shams Scherania.
That's picking it all up. So jam no, I got
it's fine, but you broke a broke a Woje bomb.
Was it last night yes?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Or maybe uh early? I was in midday yesterday. I
just got sick of all the New Zealand journalists were
just not onto it. So I don't really want to
do this. I don't want to have to put out
stories or angles. But I'm just like, oh, for foxs sake.
So I just said, you know that Hoskinstitutu will not
be playing for the All Blacks fifteen that he had
turned down to play for a turned down raiser to
(01:37):
play for the All Blacks in Japan because he's got
a knee injury and so, but crucially that means it
keeps his options open, doesn't it to go skippity doo
overseas and play for either England or Fiji. Qualifies for
Figi of course, through Wassaki, his dad and then his
mum is English or as an English passport, so he's
(01:58):
got options, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Is that because he has played for the All Blacks right.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, but I think the last game was in twenty
twenty two, so it's a three year stand down. If
you want to play another another nation the next year,
he'd be almost straight in there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Oh man, they'd put him straight in, wouldn't they.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I think England would love it. But then can they
afford him because English rugby clad rugby is a little
bit dicey at the moment. But if the arif you said, well, well,
well yeah, we'll talk to our people, because they've.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Got many of money, so much twicking twigs and range
rovers yeah and range rovers and estates yes, and those
weird little gum type gumboot things that they were. But
couldn't you the England. Are you allowed to play in
France but still play for England?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh, you have to play in England.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
They have to play for the in the English Premiership
and that's the thing. So for Fiji, I say, reviewer,
we'll find you and come play for us. Yeah, And
so that'd be pretty cool because even if if they
started assembling a team of Fijians who were sort of
thinking about playing for another country or whatever, you know,
like a tabatava nahwai or whatever. Although they've got lots
of wingers, right, but you start getting your what your hoskins,
(03:02):
Sotutu's coming around.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Mark no longer need to work there exactly might have
played union in a few years.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
True, I can't deal with it, and so yeah, that
would be incredible. But yeah, playing for England. I kind
of applaud if he does it because it's the most
trolly thing to do.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Also financially the best thing to do.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah, I think that could be right. It's tricky because
he would command so much money in France or Japan.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, he is France in particularly.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
While still playing by having international goals. England's the best
one because you played international rugby and get paid a
ship load.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
That's the thing. If you want to sort of cement
your legacy is a really great test playable then England.
You've got so many opportunities to just go well. The
tilted the title of course will title, but the Six
Nations is a big deal, even though we sort of
think it's the box kicking championships, the world box kicking
champions falls back instead of like, okay, we accept it's
(04:03):
quite good, but except for elite, Oh I don't provedn't proved.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But yeah, I look at that French competition and I
think if you're like, obviously everyone wants to be an
all black, every kid in this country. But you know,
there's nothing wrong with just being a professional rugby player
for a job, like and if you're going to do that,
you could do worse than France. Those parades that they
throw after they win the championship, the crowds that they
get at those games, like, it looks like a sick
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place to be a professional rugby player, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
It is, the only issue with France is how long
the season is. It just they pretty much grind you down.
So if you're a number eight, they're expecting so many carries,
head ups, what do you call it? Like jackals, your jackals,
you're turning up to rucks, you clean outs? Yeah, all
that sort of shit, and it's it goes on forever.
That's why France are threatening to send an understrength team
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to New Zealand next year because this season is still
in playoff mode and they're like, well we don't do
not care. There's a long we bummed you once and
now we just dignor fuck you.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Can we still do excellent? I think I think you
can do French.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
French is still look gay. We will not get canceled doing.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Any white guys.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I think about Italian Italian French.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I think Italian. I feel like you can get canceled
for being too Italian.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I think why because come after you, you just don't
want to keeps doing that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Open open season on the Irish help on Irish Scottish.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Russians are all good, you know, does give them there?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Still we have a great we have a great Russian.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I support man named.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
And Surge came down and he was he was changing
over service for each brand. And he came down here
and the Flavor radio station is just here next to us,
and he was looking at it lost, and I said,
are you right? He goes, you're woking for someone form
of floor and I was like, you, Mikie, do for.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Is a flowing floor office?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Because my my beautiful lit where I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
All of me. He came down, he said, this graph
on the roof a reactor for.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
So I hope he found flav but he did. He
was standing right next to it. There was just no
one there.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, so who are the people that Peter Archives have
been brought in?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Josh Lord? Just Lord's been brought up.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, Josh Lord, big unit, beautiful man, goofy bastard. Love
him because he's kind of like the fun guy, the
lock and so yeah, here's he's he's just good value,
Josh Lord. And so it's this is a big chance.
He's looking pretty good. Like now he's sort of turned
that corner because he came in as a baby draft
(06:57):
is like.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Nineteen or something called up for that Northern tour just
because what we don't have enough locks? Is that what
it was?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah? I feel like it was just like almost what
are they doing in the NFL the combine right where
they just measured him and went yep, okay, yeah you
go on the plane.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yep, it's mighty Williams, all these kind of guys. Yeah
are you six foot eight?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Do you want to come play for the All Blacks?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah you do? Have you heard of them? Yeah? That's right.
I was wondering if maybe he was a bit of
a who's our man? American dad? Look Jacobson. Yes, because
he looks like a future All Black captain, Like physically,
that's what he looks like. And I always wondered if
that's why he got because he got called into all
of those chiefs early, into the all Black squad early.
Do you think he's getting pretty privileged? I think he
(07:39):
was getting a little bit of pretty privilege. Now he's
backed it up. But I do wonder if because he's
one of those guys that an All Black selected a
rugby coach looks at and.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Goes, yeah, I want him to be so do you
can cut it? Isn't actually the goat. He just got
pretty privilege the whole way through.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Possibly I think he's definitely the goat, but I think
the pretty privilege helps.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I think it helped to get in a few teams here.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Because you look at you look at the likes of
who is Simon Calhane. Yeah, you know he didn't get
much privilege.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
No, there's nothing. He's battling away and he's like come on,
and they're like, even agree, he's quite cute.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
He's cute, but it's not hot.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Carlos is hot. Carlos Dan Carter's hot. Nick Evans so
it was skipping and Bowden's good looking. He sorted out
his teeth. Yeah, he is hot, and he's kind of like,
how would you call it, just like a storybook hero,
you know, you can imagine on a horse riding he's
a prig.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
A hot guy. I mean, obviously Richard Carhu, We'll probably
be right up there with I'm just thinking tense but sorry, yes, yes,
but yes, Cahu, you were just changing the whole paradigm
and just going hot wen't. Yeah, but would you say
I would say, would you say, if we're going Australian,
would you consider Stephen Larkham to be hot when he
was playing?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Nah, he's a bit.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
He's a bit skeletory for me, Like just a bit.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I know, saying yeah, the hit gear and the tape everywhere,
but you put them in.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
The living suit beside a Spanish villa and you're going, oh, yeah, okay,
just a bit of shit, unbuttoned the Man Simon shirt
and yeah, exactly, I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He does have a touch of the James Bonds about
him now as a coach.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yes, so I think he does have leading men looks
and he's got a mole in the right place, you know,
like he's got a good mole, one of the great moles,
one of the great moles, Stephen Larkham.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I've always said that about Stephen Larkham. He goes through
gaps and he's got one of the great moles. Ethan
Blackadder's also out as well. Yet another injury for Ethan Blackadder.
Then you can't is it just because he's too reckless?
Is this what it is? I don't know. It's just
he's just dangerously unlucky and Dalton Papoli as well. So
it's interesting to me that we're only bringing in Peter
Lucky and Josh Lord, wouldn't we want another Lucy in there?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Well they did ask.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And now they're going, oh shit, okay, so.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Not you, by the way, should they be playing a
bit of Australian crawl to Ethan Blake and you know
in his rehab.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, well, had Man, don't be so reckless throw down
your god because I just heard you call them recklar.
It takes a while to get into the chorus on
that song. You'll notice that anytime you throw it on
at a party, other songs made and you're like, oh yeah,
it goes on for a while. There's about a yeah,
sixteen baron a manly ferry. Yeah, makes sits away across
(10:29):
the bay. I think this is a would you like
a hot take place? Get the hot takes thing? Really,
ge Lane, you'l you might like this?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Why not pick that absolute freak of nature from the
mulus Oli mephis open side flanker who played on the
last week scored a try on the wing. Put the
step on.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And he's a flanker people.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And when he played, when he kept using secondary schools,
he had a game where it was like a heck
and two crazy assists, like it was run meters of
three hundred and something plus. And I know that's schoolboy rugby,
but every level he looks amazing. Yeah, And so why
not just go? This guy's so talented. Were still not
sure what position he should play?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Just pick him?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
So is he naturally a fling cap inside?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah? And he played on the wing, played right wing
for the scored a try. I love this kind of
it's got quite a good try aim and I.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, oh yeah, well I've seen it. I'm going to
have to follow that. He had two tracking across from
here He's managed to get shake one pretty easily, just
a little stop and then duck the dove in. It
was almost like a touch try in the end. You
know they're just dive in and you can't get low
enough for them. You don't want to hear that's right.
So yeah, he looks, he looks tremendous. Say let's take
a quick break and let's talk about the MPC here.
(11:46):
So we do have a couple of MPC semi finals
this weekend, fellas, We've got the Josh Morby Memorial Battle
of Topau and that's Wellington versus.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
There's Josh Morebury already gone to France. I feel like
he's gone. He hasn't turned up for whiteot Or for
a while.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
We speak quite a while this morning trying to find
someone who played for.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Both played Chiefs and well and Wellington.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And we settled on Josh Morby.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I'm just going to have a quick squeeze.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Also, top was more than Wellington.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, but a lot of people from Wellington holiday in Topul.
It's a very big Wellington bolt hoole. It's either that
or the sounds where they go. So that's why that's
the better of Topel, because because that is he is
Chiefs country as well.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, so the Chiefs are not the Chiefs the Mulus.
They tipped up Taranaki last week, that was and that
was an upset and thus released Josh Lord for the
Northern tour a week early. But do you think they
can keep it going against Wellington this weekend? I know
you're both Mulu men.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Look the All Blacks are they playing again this weekend?
When are they off from the Northern tour?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
James?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Do you know they're off now?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And all those French All Blacks have gone?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I believe they have. So like Olmore had an absolute
blinder and then Billy Proctor was on fire as well.
So and when your Proctor's on fire, you got caller doc.
You need to another thing as a rule. But the
thing is he is. I think Wellington, though losing those guys,
they're still super strong.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's my favorites dollar forty.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yes, yeah, but did you the way Aaron Cruden, the
Old Master Old Yoda controlled the game and Josh Jakin
the vampire like he was, he's trying everything he could,
all his vampire powers had him and then yeah, yeah,
and then but Aaron just ran the game and I
just wonder whether he's kind of got that one last
(13:43):
title with him and could he could he make a
big run and control He just ran the cutter, But
American Dad was the best in show for the for
the moders last week.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
We were saying earlier this week I made Lane try
and guess how old Aaron Cruden is. Deceptively young? Do
you know how he is two? He's thirty five?
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Oh right, Okay, that's what it was, late dirties been
for so long, he was so young.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
In twenty eleven he was skateboarding, remember when he was
called into the squad. So he was skateboarding, and fucking
Beaver was white baiting. So who knows what the other
person was, will be good if someone was just honestly,
I'm just watching porn and massive.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well that's isn't that what you do in your white
bait anyway?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
That euphemism, right, that's why they always come back with
such tiny amounts of white bet. So you've been out
there all day and you've brought back one little SnapLock
bag of white bait. Yeah, so yeah, well I've been
doing other things as well there as you're getting ten
on the on the phone though, while you're while are
(14:47):
you going for it? It would just be I don't
know it would help or where you just sort of
all of a sudden, it would just be all that's
all I've got. I've got a better offer for you. Come,
I play for the all back. Do not tell me
you masturbating beaver? Are you?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Stop it? Stop it? Or you go to be fair?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
To be fair? You got me there? You got me
made ye?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well, man, I'm down the river. What if I'm doing
down there? That's my best beaver. I've lost a little bit.
I had a great beaver there for a while.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, it's already clips the ends of the words, doesn't
he a little bit?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You're going to drop it down as low as you
possibly can to be fair. And they're running in the
back of the last word that said as well, and
then good, he's going to ask for his boots back
if you just keep marching into No, this is a
term of demon. Spend a lot of time mimicking the
ways of the beaver. And I do have a Worl
(15:42):
Cup winning boots as well.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I've got him on FaceTime, now do it?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Don't they have plenty of playing? Oh sorry, just before
we do. I was just going to say, cook Savage
that drop goal? How sick was that? I know?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I loved that? Someone said to me or it was
a bit of a wobbi drop goal in anything from
forty past isn't amazing drop goal?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
A bit wobbly? Who gives give him something like? Why
don't you always have to say? I was like, there
was epic and such a good call. I think Crewden
passing the ball right.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
No, it was the winger. It could have been Cruden,
I'm not sure, just goes snap it.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah, but anyway, Yes, to pile Cook Savage, what is
happening with Josh Morby Now? I almost feel like he
is the guy who would decide the game. But you
s back to the drop goal, Gulane, you love a droppy.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
I love a droppy, but I also love that name.
To pile Cook Savage, yes he needs to be an
all black well it it pretty much.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Sums up a lot of the early history written by
bley the Cooks, mainly by the by the British.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Cook seven his whole. But it was the way he
did it as well. As soon as he got that ball,
he knew that's what he was going to do, and
I feel like he's been waiting all season for that
very scenario someone doesn't find touch. He's been like, I've
been trying this training every day. I know I can
do it. And everyone else around him was okay with
it too, because up until then they were hammering the
(17:04):
tryline right and then they tried to clear it, didn't
get it. He's like, I want to fucking slot this
from forty watched this, I know, and it was you
could see the crowd and Tatanaki the just going what
the fuck this is?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
This isn't the script. They all turned out and huge
numbers and on one side of the.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Wrong side too, on the wrong side.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
No, the cameras can't change, but it'll be sorted next
year maybe. But the way that Taranaki came back and
the forwards kind of like mowed through everybody in the
second half ship that was bizarre to me. I just
couldn't work out how they could changed, what changed, and
how they couldn't win that because they just made so
many mesas and every single time, why coulds have tried
(17:45):
to truck it up? They're just like breck Wall Tartanaki
defense in place.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Well, there's a reason why second half Taranaki lost and
that was the curse of coming on the agenda.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
We had Barnzy on the Weary on.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
The week before, and before that we had bred Shields
on before the Shield. No, both of them were both
very very quietly confident, weren't they, And then they came
on this podcast and then four days later both of
them were Actually.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Now that I'm looking at it and recognizing the pattern.
We also had Nigel Walsh's the coach of South Canterbury
and Ireland on before they lost their first game and
four that was about two or three weeks before that happened,
but that's still a curse.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
And we talked about the Beanfree Shield Challenge with them
and what we could do to whip around. We actually
that I'm now remembering back, we said we'd do a
whip around for the next challenge and he said, we
haven't won of you boys.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, could you could you call that that interview thing
the ship the bed segment, like in sell it to
someone like either beds or ship or shipping. Oh yeah,
well now mida mucial, Yeah, mida mucile like the laxative.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, well we've got Ali Williams on next and they've
got he's got his debut game for Auckland f C.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Ship outside.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Now don't tells you'll know what, but also just to
me if they don't know that. The segments called that
welcome to the ship the big sig. But for the
next person, he's got absolutely shit the Neil Buds.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
How's it going.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
We actually had to tell Barnsy we've got his jacket
as chiefs social club jacket is like one thing where
they had fucking gone, oh I.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Know it's not you got given it by one of
your mates and now he wants it back.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, I said, can't carry. He goes here fucking can't carry.
He wasn't happy. How did you get hold of it?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I want to talk about America's Cup quickly if I could.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Please do just bring us up today just before I.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Do, though, if you haven't heard, James, we're selling our ute,
that Ford Falcon ute. Look at that the nineteen ninety
eight Ford Falcon Auto Trader. Want you to tell New
Zealand about your your car. We're taking the lead here
and it's a massive own goal because I drive that
all the time. But you can look out for our
Ford Falcons going up on in November, so we're get
another couple of weeks. Annoyingly, work has already cut the
(19:52):
fuel card off. That's just how that was disappointing. I
got stuck at the petrol station the other day ringing
Lane like, what's going over the fuel? Good cut off?
What about sign? Running the wrap and seen wrapped black?
It's jet black now yep, so you have faces and
on it anymore, which is.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
And we've got some new bench seat at the front
for the for it as well, and we've got a
few surprises were going to throw in as well.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Part of the auction wasn't g Lane's mouth with a
petrol fla chucking nozzle storm purposes?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
You chucked your nozzle down stun purposes, Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Dear, So yeah, that was the That was the first
thing we directified. Actually the other day we went and
we were doing burnout, spun it round, we were rectified it.
We're doing burnouts and they've filmed it in slow motion
and for some reason, the fuel the fuel was the
cap wasn't on quite right, so all of the fuel
was slotting out of the tank and it was just
coming out of Storm's face. There's just petrol coming out.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Like tears and vomiting and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, that's so good as we're doing burnouts anyway. If
you want to buy that, you can November. All of
the proceeds are going to go to November as well.
But fell As the America's Cup mesh on the Hadaky
Breakfast has cursed it because when we were four nil up,
he said it's sewing up. It's coming home. We can't lose,
and we said, mate, it's not coming home. That's well,
obviously it's never coming home, but that's coming.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
That's why I don't care. I'm like, bring on sending
it back to the Isle of Wight?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Do you care? It on more? Now? So we will
four nil up. They've now overnight won two races. It's
now four to two completely different ball games.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
So we need to get to seven? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
First to seven?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
So yeah, I'm the same as Gulane. I just don't
care as much. It's not down here. I don't know,
like I mean, it's obviously high level rich people shit,
and I'm happy for them and I'm gonna let you finish.
But there's other stuff, you know, like Beyonce made one
of the greatest video music videos of all time.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, of all time, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, I tend to agree. I'm really I mentioned this
the other day. I'm really struggling my emotions. I'm struggling
with my emotions. She don't they're not coming back.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
To New Zealand. I don't care. Yeah, I quite like
the New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I could put up with all the Winkers on their boats,
shirtless winkers with pals in their hands around. I could
deal with that because it was here and you get
to watch it, and I get to watch you get
out of the vite act and by proxy it was
quite a cool Atmoss. If they're forever now, it's always
going to be in Saudi or UAE or Barcelona.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Oh, my key factor is struggling a little bit. Yeah,
it's imi.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
You get that. The prestige is there, so there's a
Wikipedia page, it's devoted to it. It's pretty cool saying
on New Zealand, look we want it, blah blah blah.
But then now I just think that it doesn't matter enough.
Like I even think the prestige of all sporting things
is just dropping a little bit Olympic medals are still
up there. I think a gold medal and the Olympics
they reckon a major like leads to the co winning
(22:37):
the British Open, but then a lot of those other
things that we were told to care about because we
all watch the news together collectively. There's one Now it's like, no,
it's not important to me.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
It's such a good boy. Because the sailing, I always
was like, I actually don't give a shit about it,
but everyone's telling me I need to, so okay, will,
but I don't, Like I never grew up Tuesdays Thursdays
training sailing and then Saturday regatta like I never had that.
So it's right. The boats are sick, though, the boats cool.
Boats are fucking sick. Have you seen the pit that
the cyclers they they look up, it's disgusting. It's literally
(23:11):
the shoulders are touching the wall and they're just grinding
it out like it's just their sweets just pouring down
the sides of this little they call it the coffin
that they said it.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
That's old Hamish bonder. There isn't.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Oh my god, it is like it's yeah, it's a
strange situation where you've just got guys in there, just specimens,
just going for it.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I have to tune in actually and watch it. It's
going to business end. You've got to watch the you
gotta watch it when it gets to six or like
a you know the match point.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Match point would be great.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It's not bad. Pretend you have to throw the last
piece of the row for someone overboard or whatever. If
it's a tie, you just keep throwing people over board.
Most boundaries instead of a boundary count back, you have
people overboard count back.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
It's like it was our last money count back. You
just look who was the thin we lose that. Yeah,
so that's the.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
The forest nation that's ever won the America.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And so easily ship there is no one else and
might be dominating per capita, absolutely dominated. You know, we
love per capita per per access to ocean. The Swiss
team along, he's probably winning because they don't have an ocean.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
It's good, exactly. Yeah, landlocked country are really punching above
their way.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, they probably got us there. But yeah, a few lakes.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
We were actually a few lakes. There are lovely lakes.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, there's a little bit of sailing petergree.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
But yeah, no, I was just going to say, now
that you mentioned lakes, that that's how Deep Purple wrote
Smoke on the Water. Wasn't it at a there at
a Swiss lake and they saw a fire on the
on the other side, fire run side and.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
There every tenage boy taught themselves how to play it.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, and you could almost do the drug. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Anyway, the rest of that song really lets it down,
that intro circ and then when it gets into it,
I really feel like it loses, much like this podcast has.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
It has a little bit I was gonna say enclosing,
if you want to be proud in New Zealand. Oh,
actually two things. One as while you're away, Gulane myself
and and I talked about the idea of having a
podcast with his dad and my mate who was mad
about the Warriors, absolutely rabid fans. So that's steward Ons.
So who my dad your dad is? Is it? Warren
(25:31):
Warren Warren Stewart and my mate Matt Sievil, who's real
estate agent in Cambridge, And so I think it might
just work. So you're gonna have to think about that,
g Lane. But I would have to mediate those.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
What would be great is if you still had this
podcast and you basically had another audio stream where those
two were on a phone together and they just talk warriors,
and then throughout the podcast we just fade them up
to see what they're talking about, and.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
They'll be like and then we fade them back down.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
We carry on and then we just can go into
dipping and out of what they're talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, he's looking at moving back jew so he's already
approached me about about how serious this offer is.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Well, why don't we have what about this for an
idea when you're doing a warrior's call, like a match,
you have them on on zoom or FaceTime so you
can go to the lounge and see how the stuff they.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Are the ultimate commentary you.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Just you just put it on screening how's Warren Handling's conception?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Just keep but then you just and it's like.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Was that TV show they did in England where they
sort of always follow them in that Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Was that goggle Box? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Google Box?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, with a drim picture with my man just blowing
up in the lounge. Yeah, you might put it on mute.
It couldn't be much worse than what we're doing. The
podcast that yeah, there we go. So that was okay,
oh yeah, that's while. While we're talking about n r L.
And just before we get to Allie Williams in the studio,
we teamed up with our mates at helen Stein's to
present the ACC's Best of twenty twenty four Warriors edition.
(26:58):
We wanted to know what the best moments were on
and off the field for the twenty four Warrior season.
You voted on social media and the results are in
and I don't have them written in front of it,
so you're gonna have to go to social media to
check them out. But best off field performance, try the year,
Warrior's newcomer, best moment of the season. It's all on
the instagram right now. Four of you Lucky Barsard's one
two hundred dollars worth of Helenstein's just for voting as well.
(27:20):
So go and check out that and let us know
whether you agree or disagree in the comments. And without
any further ado, we're gonna take one last break here
and when we come back, James mccaroney's going to magically
turn into Ali Williams. Well, it's a great privilege to
have co owner of Auckland i FC. He's doing the
media rounds this week. Ali Williams. Good morning, Ali, gentlemen.
(27:42):
How are we good?
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Thanks here, and you're in the car wash in the
car you really took him and I this morning?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Is they gonna blow your ears off? Mate? She's on
a bunch of here on your team later will turn
it down.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Who shall we speak to? Export?
Speaker 6 (27:55):
There's a lot of sponsors floating around here, but headphones
are pretty tricky.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
But yeah, I am, I'm right in the blender.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, third time you've seen me this week today.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
So the third time I saw someone was once the Queen,
And when I spoke to the Queen, I said, you know,
this is the third time we've caught up in a
New zeal And that constituted a date. Yeah, so this
is we're dating. Yeah, have fun.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Smile on. Isn't it when you get isn't it when
you get to third base?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Fourth base?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Well, second base for us was discussing whether or not
shitting yourself in the shower is actually technically shitting yourself
because Brodi Kine, Well, by the way, we are on
game or.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Two halves, so you discussed this on Game of two halves.
I don't think they recorded it. Okay, I'm hoping it's
not live. Potentially are you going to ruin that live here?
So you know, we're just sharing content up. I can't
see it making the cart.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
But we did discuss with it because I think Brodi
Kaane did sh herself in the shower and we were like, well,
I don't think they're shitting yourself. No, it's a wet room.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
She did publicly come out and say that she shared
herself and.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I said, look, I don't know I should be around
this conversation, right, but.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
My view is that.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
If it touches you in the shower, then it's shooting yourself.
But if it's a clean.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Drop, right, yeah, it's probably just.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
An informal execution of what can be done in a
different manner.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I mean, look, I I tend to agree, and it's
just a little bit of waffle stomping is between you
and you know, getting rid of the evidence.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Isn't it waffle stomping? Now here would be the real
real talk about it. Is is it four foot or
is it the rare heel.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I've never done it, but I know Loan's done it
multiple times. I'm definitely it's definitely the ball, not the heel.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Got to be it's got to be the heel.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
No, if you're waking, if you're whacking the front, that
is doing toa squadge and everything.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
That's no good man.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
No, I'm not talking toes like if you like that
little ball, because.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
That's way more nice, way more dexterous, even though it's yours.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It's not some cow or I'm random.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
The feeling of it between you. And also, but Lane,
do you have cracked heels?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Is that the actually severely cracked heels, So I don't
want any sort of excrement in there, and I find
I'm a bit more there's a bit more dexterity with
the front of my foot as opposed to the back.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Can well you have a just just two seconds silence
one because this conversation is going really hideously wrong, but
also just a just a two seconds silence and more
a commiseration because my dog last night unfortunately lost his nuts,
got got them pulled out. So yeah, the poor kid,
and many was moping around to this morning.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
He just looked at me and would you get it done?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
He's looking at you going what have you done to me?
And also that we had our dog and they opened
them up and they look at you and then look
at it and then they go.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You did this.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Just lie?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Or you're like, h poor guy, I'm feeling did you
keep his back wheels?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
AND's got them. She's looking at them. I don't know
what what are you going to do with it?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
What do you do? What do you do with category?
I not touching? Other people can don't tell the kids.
So it's in the kind of shame is it so
that it doesn't lick itself down there? How old is it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
He will be?
Speaker 6 (31:19):
I'd say about nine eight nine months? Yeah, yeah, Portuguese war.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
You're going to say nine years old.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
You're a bad man if you've done that.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Anyway, buddy, may I love you, mate, and you don't
need balls to be to be a man.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Be a man.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
You thought some thought thought some price working dogs.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Get out there and for you. We actually do have
a duck You have Daisy.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
We have Daisy and daisies for Daisy is about three
weeks old. And the kids, the kids, they're they're quite
a venturot our lot and they go to keith A
Park and that duckling type of period time. They walked
up to us and they said the poor duckling was
(32:07):
by it and had nothing anyway, Okay, Anda loves her animals,
so she's like, yep, bring it home and we'll look
after it.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
A dog with no nuts and a duck and kidnapped
duck kidnapped an abducted duck.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
So I got the.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Truth and they were like, yeah, we shoot all the
others away and we just got and I was like,
you cheeky bag. So daisies, but Daisy's lives a pretty
decent life. I imagine a lot of pampering, and so yeah,
it's definitely a venture playground.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
And then there's then there's.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Me e, well, the middle of the madhouse.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I mean, you're obviously in the middle of the media
car wash for a reason. The Saturday debut game for
Auckland f C pretty big occasion.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's there's a lot of hype around it. Almost sold out.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, we're almost sold out.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
There's a few more tickets to get, which I'm sure
we'll get that we'll reach that milestone, which will be
really really really really good just for a team and
also for the town to know that ever run's behind us.
But it's exciting, right, Like, you know, we've all well
I've done sport, and a lot of the other owners
have done sport, and Bill and Anna have.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Done massive things in their lives.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Right, So if you if you think about it, it's
little milestones like a sellout, but also it's it's the
excitement of what you're doing. And it's also the challenge
that I don't want to sound Donald trumpy, but let's
make sport fun. Yeah, Like, let's let's bring some real
excitement exactly what you boys do. Yeah, yeah, let's let's
make it fun, right because at the moment, I think
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everyone concentrates and focuses on results. Well, trust me, an
athlete not going out there to lose right now, it
doesn't matter if it's the Black Clash or whatever it is.
We all want to win, right, So let's let that
side to the players. And the guys are getting paid
the big bucks, you know, all the girls are getting
paid the money. But as supporters, let's have fun. Like,
let's enjoy it when we lose in a weird way
because we can, we can chuck some banter out blah
(33:57):
blah blah. Let's let's enjoy it when we win. But
that's also enjoy it when it's using next to your
mate and something happens and you look at your son
or your daughter and you say, man, they had a
lot of fun at that at the game and wearing
the merchandise and all that sort of stuff. So we're
challenging ourselves to have some fun, be lighthearted and enjoy
and get back to the community.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I can't agree more.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
And it's kind of the journey that I think the
rugby Union's going through around there's a few losses and
all of a sudden everyone's panicking. But I like it
because it makes the fans care a little bit more
and also get make the wins better because when you
do win, because being a cricket fan since like you know,
the early nineties, we were so rubbish, but we loved
it so much that when we occasionally beat Australia, it
(34:41):
was so much better. Yea, and you had and there
was a kind of a group of people who didn't
care about the result. We'd go to the game dressed
in beij and just be fuck withs for six or
seven hours.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Well if you look at the Warriors, right, and you know,
we all love the Warriors. Whether you're a league fan
or whether you're not, The Warriors have this I don't
know what it is. I don't know what their magic sources. Yeah,
they haven't won a championship in thirty years, right, and
they have a slogan saying keep the faith. Yeah, mate,
we all want to see them do well. Is that
the recipe? The fact that they actually haven't won? You
(35:13):
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I know that's scary to say, but is that the recipe?
Speaker 6 (35:16):
But you know, you speak to them and you see
the Warriors and you're like, you know what, people just
love going to Warriors games. And regardless if they win
or lose, they love going to Warriors games because of
the atmosphere and what it means to them, their family,
generational stuff. And that's really what we're hoping to get
to with this football football team.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Another thing that we talk about a lot on this podcast,
probably too much, in fact, definitely too much, as the
whole stadium debacle debate around whether they were going to
build the waterfront one, then they were going to put
a bloody roof on the thing. Then we're reading an
article last week, you guys are looking obviously first season
is going to be out at Mount Smart and then
from there are you looking at down the track some
sort of Western Springs or some sort of stadium types.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
One thing I can tell you is it takes longer
than a year to build a stage, So it won't
be next year and it probably won't be the year after.
But I think given our ownership structure, given our passion
and loyalty to this town and sports in this country,
we are looking at every options and how can we.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Change it.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
You can't just change it from a basically from a
sports team point of view, but from an ecostructure and
from a physical structure, that's how you change it and
turn entertainment. So yes, we are looking at those things,
and Western Springs is a great location to do something
like that. But we've got to go through the process
like anyone else. We've got to go through the process.
But we're committed, let's put it that way. We're committed
(36:41):
to give the fans what they want. But it's not
solely about sport. It's entertainment. It's creating a precinct that people.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
Can I've got nothing about admiration because I dip my
toes and me Jeremie Wells and a few others are
when the cricket debate was going on about where cricket
should be and we got it and we've got an
architect together and we put a proposal for Victoria Park
as a test being, you not as a one day
We don't want a big you know, as fifteen thousand
people in vic Park and all the corporates that are
(37:09):
around and everything, and you know, everyone thought it was
a great idea. But then I like just skimmed the
edges of council bureaucracy and I fucking nearly wanted to
finish myself.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Like I went to so many meetings.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
What I'm saying, I'm in the same rowboat as at
the moment.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
So I'll say it all. It is tough man, and
you've got it. I'll be honest. We gave up because
they just ground us down in the end. And I
was like, you know what, I care, but I don't
care that much. I'm just a Joe Bloggs. Just with
my point there is I think there's a lot of
good people in there. Yeah, and you know, fundamentally they
have the mandate. They want to make Auckland great.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
They do want to make Auckland better and they do
want to do things they asked, hamstrung by certain elements.
But I don't have a problem with the people in there,
to be honest with you. I think more there's elements
and that's where Wayne and the likes are trying to
make a change. And you know, I can sense positivity,
and yes I deal with them on building consents and
all that stuff, which can be pretty tricky, as we
(38:09):
all know, team and escalating prices and all that sort
of stuff. But I strongly believe the time is right
and I strongly believe that we can make a change.
And you look at your example for instance, you know
transformed cities. It definitely transform cities. The big international one
is not where we're playing at. Just to get clarity,
it's not where we're our zone because that's a government
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council type of level. This is more a private, you know,
public collaboration to give to the people of Auckland. And
when you talk about down there at the park, I mean,
look how the success of Haadly overall and christ It
doesn't need to be a lot, right what we the
simple things in life, the smiles.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
That's what we're all striving for It's not the it's
not the.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
Massive gains or been seen to be this or that
and having the shiny box.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's it's the simplicity things. What we're going well, we're
all in behind you. We can't offer much from a
financial logistical point.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Of view.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Right behind you. It's all about the vibe, man, It's
all about the energy.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
Right when we're meeting the Port boys, we're going to
meet them at Lily World beforehand, we're going to get
the march on with them and get down that southern standing.
I love them what they're about.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I'm going to let off a flair.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Yeah yeah, you didn't hear that, but won't hertit. But
I do encourage excitement, and I do encourage variation, and
I do encourage, encourage and encourage stuff.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
So that southern end is going to harm right.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
And you've got the Port and we've got football fans
are different fans, very passionate fans, and the Port guys
are driving it hugely and it's all self driven. We're
just sitting there saying, you know, what can we do?
What can we help? I think there's another element which
is really really cool, and we're calling it this is Auckland,
and this is a combination of all our ethnic diverse
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cultures that we get that we have in this in
this town. And that is about bringing all those people together.
And that's going to be a little area and that's
going to be like a tailgating type of event outside
of Lily Will So that will grow too, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You know that that whole vibe.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
Of getting together an hour two hours before the game
and two hours after the game because kickoffs at five o'clock.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
You've got that time, and you've got your kids, and
you know, you imagine imagine.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
Being a true blue Aucklander and walking through this is
Auckland and seeing all the different different diversities in our
town and going, man, this is a special place to live,
right because they all bring something different, right, and they're
all very, very passionate for so many different reasons. So
this is our way of giving to the people before
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they give to us, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
And I do strongly believe that, Yeah it does. I
thought it.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
And so that's a real passion of ours, is to
really bring in Doug greater Auckland, not just you know,
twenty people, twenty percent of people that actually born and
bred in Auckland and still back here because may We've
got Wellingtonians, we've got christ Church people, we've got the
needing people, all that sort of stuff. But we've got
a massive cultural diversity and it's let's walk towards it,
not away from.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
It, looking forward to it. Lane has got a couple
of questions. Who wants to ask you? We do?
Speaker 5 (41:20):
We do twenty two questions in two minutes. It's a
very quick year, Snow. We've had Carl Mills coming here
as Sody, Liam Lawson.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
What a champion.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Legend, very simple, the quick fire. You don't have to
do right or wrong. There's no right or wrong, no judgment,
no judgment judgment as he looks Williams twenty two and two.
Coffee or tea, coffee, sex or drugs?
Speaker 3 (41:47):
See hard or fast hard?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Would you rather wake up neude next to Dan Carter
or Richie.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Mccaugh done both of them?
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Tie or Indian Ty? Eat out or don eat out?
Freddie Mercury or Elton John wet or dry wet dogs
or cats dogs, Travis Kelse or Taylor Swift, Taylor, Andrew Whore,
Anton Oliver and Brady Retallick, who's the biggest downstairs?
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Oliver?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
What rugby legend? Would you bring back from the dead Williams?
Speaker 1 (42:17):
You did no. No, in terms of my playing.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
From the dead Jonah.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
If the serah maade did bring back Jonah Jerry Collins,
and if the seramade to bring them back resulted in
you talking like Stephen mckiva for the rest of your life,
would you still do.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
It for the sake of the country.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
Have you ever fired a gun? Have you ever killed
anything bigger than an insect?
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Who's the most famous person you've met now, Si Mandela
the Queen? I've been pretty Yeah, I've been pretty.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
If you had a rearcurring dream that a snowman killed
himself with the hair dryer, would you be concerned?
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Isn't that on Frozen?
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Son comes in? What's that?
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Would you be concerned?
Speaker 3 (43:08):
I let them watch it.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
If you're offered a knighthood, would you accept it?
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Um?
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Probably not, because probably don't think I deserve it.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
What age do people say, say nights someone that goes
to battle.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
You've gone to battle. You're going to battle? Yeah, the
battle has just begun for you.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I think.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
What age do people say they've had a fall instead
of falling over.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I think it's two to.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Have you ever screamed google me, motherfucker?
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Maybe not the last bit, Yeah, google me. Yeah, I
told dad too. Okay, now now I'm actually doing it
the other way. Don't google me. Don't google me, don't
google me.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
Last question, if you were going to get a statue
made of yourself, what pose would you be in and
where would you put the statue.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I'll give you time to think. An example.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Tim Soudi is nude on a horse rearing up on
the and he's going to put it on the front
of Dan Vatori's house, on his lawn.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Okay, okay, so that that wild. That doesn't be wild either.
I'll go with Sally too. Let's go nude.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeh, pitch.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
I'd probably do the the albatross swaying tree type of pose.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Legs slightly wider than than normal position, but sure.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
And I'm sort of I need to be high up
because I'm not I'm scared of heights.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yes, so I'd like to conquer that.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
Fair and I'm thinking potentially ah Paris, Yes.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Looking back over so forty three.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
As a reminder, yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
Probably at Okay, on the top of the they could resttraction,
it'd be.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah, it'd be pretty special.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Oh, very good. That awesome. Thank you very much for
joining us, Elie, we'll see you on Saturday. Thanks very much, Jans,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
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