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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waltergrave from Youth Talk sed B. All Sports Breakfast, All
Star Panal.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And All Star Panel consists of Hamish mackay by Remote Hamish,
good morning to you.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Oh, good morning, dus.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'm sitting here looking out at said Helly is looking
towards wind, getting all excited about a big day.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
All right, so we're both looking at the same body
of water. That's nice to hear your kind of here,
Jason Pine would be. But he's looking straight at me.
He's got his back to the sea.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Terrible studio sit up here, I can tell you, Hamish,
I'm the only one of the three of us. So
he's not looking at the water.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Oh Piney, But you're a guy that you know you
you can rough it and tap at it, but you'll
put up with it. You're made of stern stuff.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
Not the way he's dressed right now.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He's got a very tracked pair of slacks and serious
shoes on and a nicely pressed shirt.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
He's up for it. I wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
There's radio used get on with the big sports stories
of the week. We'll started with you, Hamish Clayton McMillan
philosophical about the sabbatical for the One Test All Black
Sean Stevenson. This is quite odd. Sabbaticals are getting slowly
more and more watered down, are they not. It's almost
like let's just stopped calling it that and just go
open slava play wherever you want.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, look, I think in the case of Sewan Stevenson,
like I don't bear any grudge. You know, it's his business,
and I sort of feel like that's how he makes
a buck, you know. And you know, you've got a
situation the moment where we've got what we've got Jordy
Barrier on a sabbatica wouldn't he over there with Leinster?
I mean, we're not seeing much of that on the Telly,
although it's incredibly good footy to watch.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I mean it doesn't get any daarly cabbage.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
But I don't know, I Sppace Clayton McMillan's just a realist,
and Sean Stevenson, you know, you've only got so long
in this game, so I think I think I tend
to agree with your open slater kind of view. We
saw it with the with the Black Caps all those
sort of effectively like those guys that are playing offshore
are basically playing in a sabbatical, and the ones that
are staying home playing for New Zealand, a lot of
them even get picked despite the performance against the Shrilanka.
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So I think it's time we sort of have taken
more of an open slatter view on it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
You have a short time to make it decent back,
So I don't sort of, you know, I don't have
a problem with it, to be fair.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Pintly, I suppose when you look at this, you'd say, look,
you've had one test, and you have one test and
that basically stops you from doing anything else. Do they
need to move that threshold to five tests?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I mean it's for me. I think Clayton McMillan's probably
been quite pragmatic about it and thinking, okay, would I like,
you know, all but three weeks of Shawn Stephenson or
none of Shawn Stevenson because if this isn't granted, then
Shawn Stevenson probably doesn't stay in New Zealand. So I
think it's a it's a meeting halfway kind of thing. Yes,
it will be disruptive for Clayton McMillan. But it's not
as though Shawan Stevenson is going to spend the first
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three weeks of Super Rugby sitting on the beach. He's
going to be, you know, playing rugby up and jam.
We'll come back and we match it presumably. I mean
you compare it to someone like Cody Taylor last year
who didn't do anything really until about week eight of
Super Rugby and by that stage the Crusader season was
just about gone. So I don't mind it. And I
think for Shawn Stevenson, look, he remember two years ago
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he was he was top of the pops. Everybody was saying,
Seawan Stevenson is going to be the next Door Blacks fallback.
It just hasn't worked out for him. It's funny how
sport works sometimes. I'm not I don't have a problem
with this.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
As far as President Setting is concerned. I don't know
if that he is inven relevant anymore, because there's no
such thing as president. When it comes to where players
play for, how long they play, and who they play for,
it's very much a basis hamish on a person.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
My person bases that how it should be, so we.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Just give up the because the reality is there is
going to be a cap on it. There are some
you know, there comes a time when, for instance, an
Irish club is going to go, well, we've got local talent,
we don't need to go as deep as but to
bring in a marquee player like Jordi Barrett's great, but
Sean Stevenson probably is quite close to that and he
will add something.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Think it is a case by case basis, and I
think you're right. President's gone and it's just it is
the new world, and that's you know, you will you're
you're a hot you know, you're a high gun, and
you'll go where you can make the most money you
can within reason. But I don't think that that offshore
teams will tap too deep into into our talent that
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to the point that it becomes a major issue.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well better than losing into Rugby League, which was on
the cards right enough, all that anywhere it'll turn around.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Jason, look at the sea because this is where we are.
Sale GP.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You've been to a lot of major international events that
we all have as part of the job, and I
wanted up and walk alongside.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Yeah, this smacks of f one, as it should be.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It's got so much scope though it can get bigger
and badd when you consider the short amount of time
it's been around. This really is quite something else, Sir
Russell Coots needs to be applauded.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Look well you will not get an argument from me
on that. Go on season no season season five of
sal GP. Two extra teams this year. Hopefully we see
the French, you know, get over their their gear problems
and we'll see see them moving forward, hopefully in the
next regata in Sydney. But look, fourteen venues now iconic
venues around the world, and what we're going to see
out here behind me in front of you a bit
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later on today will be absolutely spectacular. The new t foils,
they're all the talk of the town around here. Over
one hundred kilometers an hour possible on these titanium Yes,
it's going to happen. It is going to happen, and
on a tight race course where there's more margin for
era the world's top sailors. Honestly, it will be absolutely
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epic out here this afternoon and again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
The Hames Mackay. This event has to stay in Auckland.
I feel for the rest of the country and you know,
being a Canterbury kid myself, I don't want to say,
you know, it needs to be on a revolving basis,
but Auckland don't have enough. In fact, they've hardly gone
any international events in series on an annual basis. We've
got the Tennis which is fantastic, the ASP Classic, but
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this is only to hang on to this.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
They've got to do whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
They can to make sure this event stays here in
the city of Sales.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Well, you don't need to build a waterfront stadium to
otter Hostess one d.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
You've got the Ampi fat it's all there.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So it's one that we can sort of get past
the keeper on that front and look. Yeah, and to
hear Russell Coots congratulated in the same in a sentence
I think is magnificent too.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah. I mean this this thing is great to watch.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And these t foils apparently the market I've done a
bit of market research amongst the apparently one or two
out here. You think they're pretty good on the water
out out of the leafy firms of Auckland. They're saying
to me that that will will put more onus on
the technical abilities of the crew. So that's great to
hear too. You know that's you know, so you're loving it,
loving it very jealousy. You've always been right down there
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in the heart of it. Now it'll be it'll be fantastic. Yes, Auckland.
You know, I know one or two agencies in the
Council of that have propped a bit of criticism for
for laying out a few dollars. But when you think
of what it's going to do for Auckland, the number
of beat hotel beds and god knows how many meals are,
it's a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
The economic benefit to Auckland is huge. And let's face it,
sport is money. It's all about fun, it's about joy,
it's about competing. But the bottom line when it comes
to major international events is show me the money and
I tell you what's been shown here. Hamish mackay, we'll
be back with more from you shortly. Jason Pine. You
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can turn around and look at the scene now if
you want more on the hex, he literally did that.
I believe took my instruction. All Star panel on the
All Sports Breakfast resumes. It's shortly here on News Talk Z.
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Joining the Media Center by Jason Pine is part of
the All Star panel and up the main highway are
we Bits.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Still on the waterfront? Hamish mccayne with us too, Hamoush.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
The Black Clash something that you buy into because the
fans wanted.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Why do you think it's so successful?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well, I honestly, when it was first sort of muted,
I sort of thought, you know, it'll be like what
was the Fan Nangle League Nines or something in Eaton.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Park that was going to be the greatest thing lasted? Yeah,
well yeah, look it was okay.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
But I'm I'm I'm I've got to say I'm blind
away by by the Black Class and what it continues
to bring in terms of fan engagement, and you know,
people talking about it for days after, far more than
the actual game itself occasionally, and I sort of think that,
you know, bringing in the Laras and now the Chriscals
of this world, I think that's.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Probably got to be the big sort of draw card.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
It's the time of the year too, isn't And it's
quite It's just a good social event and you know,
but I guess it draws a decent enough TV audience
to get the to get the backing to pay for
the whole thing. So you know, it does surprise me
that it is as widely received as it is.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The game Jason Pine, the result. You can't tell me
who won last year, the year before.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I got no idea.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
But it's not about that. It's sportainment. It's about an
entertainment package to go along to. And we're talking about
Sir Russell Coots and what he's done, but you've got
to look at David Haggins and what he's done here.
He's found something he's a promoter of. He's got a
cunning needs to him. Hasn't about what he does, because
he wouldn't have think this had picked up like it has.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
But it has.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Seventh, sixth, seventh one, the seventh one.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
I read this.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I couldn't have told you how many there been, And yeah,
it's even that's a surprise to me. Yeah, Hamish as well,
you know the seventh one. But they'll be tell you what.
They'll pack it out down there in christ Church this
afternoon into this evening. There'll be all sorts of content
on social media. People will be taking photo's placed to
be seen. The result will be completely immaterial. I just
need to get a photo with Will Jordan.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
What about the Boss Universe, Boss Chris Gale, come on.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Man and although and I see from looking at social
media he had quite the night last night in christ Matt.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Heath was telling us.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I think Matt Heath had quite the night too.
I think that last cross he was in bed still
recovering from last night's entertainment. Six City tonight that gets
underway free aware that it's the Black and Clash the
Australian Open. Oh, the Australians are a classy bunch, aren't
they hamous?
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Yeah, they can really be relied.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
On to be dignified and proud and really show their
country for what it's worth when it comes to live
fan cooperation not Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well, you know there's like this ten thousand curiosites in
the crowd, you know at the moment, you know, like
I can understand the you know, the local Lebanese community
getting him behind the player from Lebanon and a bit
of nought, but it's got a bit carried away, HEAs
and it's gone. But it's way over the top of
having to move matches and everything. Oh look, I think
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there's a degree. I think that one of the umpires
made a good point. Love the energy between the points,
but at the points, and that's shut the you know
what up.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, that's that's that's my view on that. But you're
right they can be candid on for this, can't they do?
They do it at.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Golf when liv goes over there, the same kind of behavior,
I suppose they do. They've made party holes in the PGA,
and I mean, maybe now it's tennis.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Is a party deal with that?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
So I think I think what the where it collides
with a little bit of difficulty is that a lot
of people like the tennis because of the decorum. They
like the fact that actually there isn't a lot of
yahooing going on. I don't you know, I've always wondered
why you need to be quiet when they serve. It's
got nothing to do with the difficulty of the act.
You think about hitting a one eighty and darts that
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happens with a cacophony of sound behind you. That has
got to be a heck of a lot harder than serving.
So but they but it's the decorum, it's the history
that the game is steeped in, and a lot of
people like going to the tennis for that very reason. Yes,
there might be a place for party courts and things
like that, but I'm not sure that the majors are
the place for them.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Hay is old because when you go to the ASP Classic,
and I know there are people who travel to go
to the sevene for the first times and even players
that come over, coaching staff and the like, and they
think that's noisy because the corporates by about what nine
at night, they had far too many beverages and it
can get.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
A little there's a bit of a ruckus going on.
Nothing could bear to the Australians.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I mean, maybe we're moving to that where decorum asside.
They've got to start. And I'll say it because this
is the this is the term of this year, piny
putting the fan at the center of the room.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah, there's a lot of at there's a bottle for eyeballs, right,
it's aboutle for eyeballs. Everybody isn't about for eyeballs. We
talked about Sir Russell Kurts and what he's done here
is this is to attract eyeballs to sailing that might
not otherwise be there. Yes, up to a point yes,
up to a point, yes. What you don't want is
to drive some of those eyeballs away and those bums
on seats away because they don't like what tennis has become.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Yeah, I went to the tennis over the holiday break.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I highly enjoyed it, and I did and I look,
I'm I'm I'm a ruckus maker without a doubt, and
I love the noise.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
I'm a noise machine.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But there's something so calming about sitting there at the
tennis and hearing the gentle flock of the say the
cat gut on the fuzz of the ball, but probably
his cat gut anymore. But there's a piece about that,
isn't there that I think it'd be a real shame
to lose, a real shame.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I mean the nights that I've gone to the tennis
I've been that reminds me of my childhood when I
was too scared to click the spoon on my teeth
that would result and go to the wash house and
a dog collar and my upbringing, you know, So just
a gentle reminder that that's not manners, that's not the
korum sun. So you know, I'd sit there terrified. But yeah, no,
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I think I think I'm quite aliking the decorum argument
that a lot of people are into it for that
very reason.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Well, there's so much of that that even when I'm
into the tennis, Jason Pine, I didn't wear my e
fanga and a singlet. I actually wore clothes. That's so
so much respect I had toward it. I still can't
believe I did that.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I can only applaud you.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Hey, miss mcgatt, thanks very much for joining us on
the All Star panel.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
The pleasure has been ours. Looking forward to tetch to
group again.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And Jason Pine, don't take your hands phone self just yet,
because all I want to say is say thanks for
your time. Now go back to your desk over there
and start looking at the sea.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Thank you, Darcy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
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